GG have KILLED the highstakes dream...

[@garyblackwoodpoker]

Surely you're still allowed to play HS on GG? hehehehehe

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

lmfaooo I asked and was then hit with a bumhunting warning. not even kidding loooool

[@paint9922]

​@@BenaBadBeatPokeryou got a warning for bumhunting ?

[@juriiboyoka5557]

basicly only infuencer and ambassador

[@kvnd7331]

@@paint9922 yes on GG they like to have the rake so high you can only win by bumhunting, and then punish you for bumhunting

[@paint9922]

@@kvnd7331 Genius

[@Mathemagical55]

I'm still waiting for GG Ambassador Daniel Negreanu to explain how the high stakes changes are actually good for the game.

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

ahahaha incoming im sure

[@Inhuman21]

Ben shoves AQ on the river Everyone: "noooooo, it's too thin!"

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

lmfaooo

[@leoyuan3f]

GG is the scum of the earth. Just don't play on that garbage site.

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

sadly so few options bro. even with gg i can only play 1k hands a day :(

[@mzockt]

GG is such a scam on all ends. It's so sad that they are the biggest on the market and nobody catches up with them. Come on Tony G, do something!

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

i feel you mate!

[@mzockt]

@BenaBadBeatPoker just disgusting what you told in your video. I grinded 20 € up to 145 € during travels on my mobile. I cashed that out cause they don't deserve even the smallest penny anymore.

[@markusalbert517]

Absolutely agree. I dream of good old Pokerstars massfields.

[@mzockt]

@markusalbert517 and the worst thing is they all keep playing there 😅

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

if I had other options I’d take them bro!

[@CancelIFR]

The fish has a bet sizing tell on the turn, most likely, as well. He would just jam all of his 8x, so when he raises small, he is capped.

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

yep totally

[@matthewli6119]

in the 77 hand, thoughts on fold pre or just jam turn?

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

both good options probably!

[@Smokey525]

The 88 hand, 4bet pot 100bb effective. OTR, VL only has to be right 25% of the time. I don't see any flush, straight, or trips folding when VL gets here with those hands. IMO, the only hands folding are 99-Kk with club that calls turn.

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

you could well be right mate. but counter argument to that is the epic price on a bluff we get

[@user-sd8bz2zr5j]

Villian rarely flats button with KK preflop. Just shoves that, so KK isn't part of his range. Ax suited is huge part, some JJ-99 might fold turn to this size. Love GTO wizard approach on turn, obviously just give up some, but when going for it 10% is beautiful size. Works real well with your AQ/QQ/maybe AKc- sets up more juicy stack to pot ratio. Just have most of his turn calling range vs 1/3 also calling on river a real high % of time. Gets real annoying with the A4ss and 67cc on turn when you face incredibly small bet then larger jam. So much Ax for villian without a boat and just has to fold more to betting sizing.

[@Smokey525]

@@user-sd8bz2zr5j This is NL1k, not NL5. People willing to call KK here IP with some frequency to keep VL bluffs in; especially vs reg that you know is capable of 4 betting light. So VL could have KcKx some frequency. Anyway, my main point to hero was that VL getting too good pot odds to call OTR. VL only needs 25% equity to call and many hands in VL range OTR have this (I think, NL1k is too rich for my blood so I don't know pool tendencies via MDA). However, I would like to know why you think it's important to suggest to Hero how he should play the hand OTF and OTT ?

[@MrDanmackem]

That AQ hand - such a standard line by villain at micro - low stakes, see this shit all the time.

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

hahaha

[@NeviRPoker]

Love the AQo analysis!

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

you're one of very few :D

[@heirFTW]

Using your logic in AQ hand why not consider block instead of shove? Can induce spazz also

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

could do this but generally i avoid ip blocks cus i know how imbalanced/exposed it'll make me. although vs players we don't know we can do this. but generally it's a pretty slippery slope!

[@mattbaxter926]

Another banger mate 🔥 The AQ hand I liked your thought process and going for value via the shove is better than block imo I do think your being over aggressive and now it's time to use that image ,the pool sees you as over bluffing (even though actually your probably bluffing correctly) so change it up take some of the low ev bluffs out your range.

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

thank you brother. i will try my best to have more value hands :D

[@Rockett86]

I've managed to scrape a living at cash on GG this year, but I don't know if I can continue playing there after this year knowing that they keep making decisions like this. I mean, what's the next one? More rake increases again? Penalties for playing less than 30% vpip?! I'm interested to know if the cash games on Coin are any good? Or ACR? I still have a soft spot for Stars but something tells me the next place to be is somewhere different altogether.

[@denske1272]

ACR is awful from what I remember for cash games

[@muller101]

@@denske1272 one of the best if not the best site for midstakes

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

i feel you bro - it's getting tighter and tighter with rake and edges to have profitable years. although i will say that there is still enough merit in poker that the best and hardest working can succeed. i think the games are good on coin yes, although there aren't as many games running as on gg. that said, there are 100% good recs, where as ACR lacks them for sure. man i miss stars too but i gotta say, that ship has certainly sailed i think. it's all about crypto sites now

[@Rockett86]

@BenaBadBeatPoker thank you for the reply man 🙏 will give everything you've said a lot of thought 👊

[@Forsepoker]

If you aren’t playing 40% vpip and crushing you doing something wrong.

[@NeverFlameNeverTilt]

Dude I so wish I could get your mind set. No matter how much I try it does bug me when running bad like your examples. I get over it fast and I don't quit ,but it does bug me.

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

i feel you mate. just takes time and patience when running so poorly. but it's ok to feel frustrated too!

[@NeverFlameNeverTilt]

@@BenaBadBeatPoker Thanks for the reply. I have to keep working on it. After a few bad sessions in a row, I go a week or so with feeling horrible.

[@agelos21]

can someone explain why would they do that? it really doesnt make any sense to me.

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

@@agelos21 gg claim that they make money from high stakes after fees/rb/VIP reward schemes. hs games also just bust recreational accounts so quickly which also means they pay less rake overall

[@凯文的扑克之路]

Really good video! I doubt your play but I like your mind set your editing and your encourging thoughts!!! I am a content creator and poker grinder too, should learn from u!

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

appreciate the kind words mate, and no worries on not liking the hands - that’s why poker is so great! take care and glgl

[@travistowell7149]

Did you change your read after the AQo hand? Like if he's tanking there, he can't be that strong of a player?

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

well I didn’t have solid reads prior but yeah after this hand definitely helps my view on them

[@filipesborn3176]

In the 88 hand, im not sure if you considered that villian cant fold TT-JJ because of BBJ OTT. My guess would be that we bluff barrel alot less keeping this in mind?

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

interesting yeah, although it's only TT tho right cus JJ is a boat. im not sure how much this will impact our barrel though honestly

[@DavidHoggins-m2z]

Also major blockers to you having an ace here. I think it’s spew

[@MDA_Demon]

Thanks for keeping us in the loop Bena, for low-mid stakes players what kind of implications do you think this will have?

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

I think for now the games will remain the same but in the future I really see the entire site heading toward more ‘rewards’ based/fun ‘poker related’ games. where rake is unbeatable and resembles casino games

[@ashtonalfred5884]

Hi Ben, think you’re playing well, (I’m a British pro based in Macao), checked the 88 hand and it’s a thing in theory some of the time I would do it less than theory on the turn (about 50%) because I suspect turn gets over called and river overfolded

[@pokeranthony8719]

If the turn is over called and River over folded you’d wanna bet this everytime

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

hey mate, appreciate the kind words! oh really ok, we take those haha. yeah i have no idea if its over or under called but what i do know is that we aren't making a boat fold looool

[@СергейДенисов-э1п]

Hello. Great video. Can you give a link to 2+2, what kind of article is written there? Thank you!

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

yo yeah here you go mate forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/news-views-gossip/ggpoker-elky-fedor-hs-regs-perspective-1842895/ forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/news-views-gossip/ggpoker-killing-hs-poker-dream-1842545/

[@Fatpigkenny]

Disclaimer - you are the pro and I am low stakes 🐠 First AQ hand - love the thought process on river but hate the jam. If you arrive with air, it’s a jam but for thin value you want to bet small? The jam folds all your value and he won’t call with worse. Really struggling with that one. On pocket 77 it’s a fold pre? At best you are flipping against over cards. Post flop no issue, just combo counting when you boat up.

[@Mr.Muckington]

Why you telling when you suck in your words 😂

[@Fatpigkenny]

@ to learn from better players

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

thanks for your thoughts mate! yeah the first AQ is supppppper speculative as i said. i don't really play small bets ip in these scenarios even though exploitatively that could be the play. the reason i don't do it is because i know in myself that i will be totally imbalanced. although vs someone i don't know that isn't inherently bad, i think this is a pretty slippery slope. i can definitely check though. 77 could well be a fold pre yeah. i'm honestly not familiar with the defense range when people limp raise lol.

[@Fatpigkenny]

@ right that’s the diff between low and high stakes. At low stakes, we don’t worry about balance.

[@thomasmatthews80]

@@Mr.Muckington did he say he sucked? no, was honest to say that recognise the youtuber is more experiences and a pro but that it was a surprise to the lower stakes player and worthy of discussion. You might be joking but it is a shame when people cant engage without risk of silly comments back

[@tassv5909]

AQ river id bet 1/3 not jam in the 4bpot. and you can call raise cos i agree theres too much JJ JT QJ. 77 in 4bet pot complete torch. just fold pre or turn you are not in solver land but 1knl.

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

i don't think there are enough good exploit reasons to size down otr here. yeah 77 could well just be a pure sack off - won't argue that one!

[@tassv5909]

@@BenaBadBeatPoker the reason is that they will xjam too many bluffs.

[@tassv5909]

@@NoLongerGrilling if the hypothesis is they under slowplay in this exact spot then you could jam to hope for hero from those hands or you can bet small hoping for jam. imo second will happen more but that opinion could simply be wrong

[@makemoney3282]

That 88 hand on a AAQJ high board is crazy 😭😭I need to get on your tables asap 😭

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

come take a seat mate 🙏🤣

[@bennywong1781]

Great content. Keep up the good work. Saw you at Crown few weeks ago. Didn't have a chance to say hi. Just keep grinding, eventually it will turnaround.

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

ah come say hi next time mate! appreciate the support

[@tissuepoker]

Hi benna. in theory, your AQo going to shove around 10% , as merge. villain supposed to pure fold all AK, but calls some Tx(JT,AT..etc) that blocks your main value range. fun spot!

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

thank you! not many people like it :D

[@TH94191]

Hi Ben, I think you should try use your voice here and players in the 1k Nl and 2k Nl should boycott for sure one day a weak, GG is killing stars slowly which is the site I use but people with a following can help this!

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

there are soooo many regs mate. this was discussed but conclusion was that it was too tricky to make happen

[@דורקרת]

The 77 is a terrible hand! No one balance his limp raisevrang I am pretty sure you can fold pre.the size on the flop is also valu heavy I hate every street

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

yeah think folding pre prob good!

[@cyrus675]

Just a quick question, why is 88 in diff from a 3 bet flat or 3 bet 4 bet?

[@HungNguyen-nn5ht]

Out of position 88 will under-relize its equity (getting out draw by overcards, getting bluffs on dangerous board), and even on safe boards 88 is not too happy facing aggression cause there are still a bunch of other overpairs, so calling a 3bet out of position won't give you much ev, and mixing 4bet with 88 give you the same amount of ev since you can make some live 2 overcards fold such as AJ, AT, KQ, KJ,..., therefore the indifference

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

@hung on the money!

[@cyrus675]

@@HungNguyen-nn5htthank u so much ❤

[@michaelpauleone9600]

In my opinion, i think that AQ may be proof that you may be suffering from fancy play syndrome. I diagnosed myself with this disease a long time ago and can't seem to get rid of it.

[@canihasfreeusername]

+1 It is a 4-bet pot which tightens the ranges a lot so I don't like the shove. Maybe 1/3 but it's still marginal especially against unknown. I too suffered from FPS but luckily I got cured after years rolled by so there's hope for you all. I'm a fish now and just spew :)

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

fair mate, could well be too fancy. i still think that the shove is decent though fwiw. historically when getting crushed i swing toward passivity too, so i'm actually pleased i'm still playing fearlessly!

[@angrybeaver2204]

That is a Jaguar -esque PR Balls up.

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

🫡🫡

[@TooMuchInternetTMI]

yea the GG embassadors are terrible for the game, ive come to dislike anyone that still has the fishy love for Dnegs, blokes a money hungry shill destroying the game that made his life

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

truth bro

[@marcojr-u9y]

i'm more suprised by the last hand where the recreational raise JJ and call the shove than what gg poker is doing wtf i have seen

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

hahahaha

[@pierroulechou]

giving info about house rake and the importance of it to the Crowd would be a start.., rake keep going up, and vip still going in not even thinking about it.

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

yeah that's a good point - we should attach the rake numbers to a video in the future

[@Kingkia33]

Feel like you’re taking every spot in a downswing which is prob not the right approach. Don’t like the 4b w 88 and value jam with AQ on the river (why not go smaller like 1/3 pot?)

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

you gotta remember that these are only 4 hands out of like 15k hands so they're always gunna be the cuspy ones! the 88 i explained isvs a good reg (although we could not shove river). and the AQ i don't really wanna be using small bets ip because it leaves me wide open to being exploited!

[@alexandertaylor7169]

Do you think we'll see people moving back to stars?

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

sadly I don’t. we need crypto sites and stars too segregated I think

[@abstract1603]

Very difficult cause pokerstars is fully legal . Many countries don't allow you to deposit so much money or they tax y with ridiculous ways . So only few players can play legal highstakes on stars

[@SepaXP]

The AQ hand is a weird one :). I bet the guy was thinking he only beats bluffs , but you actually jamed for value from your point of view. Its not crazy to not go for value on that board as played with ak actually. You have all 1010 , AJ etc as played. Maybe even slow played qq and kk preflop once in a while. For the same reasons I think its way too thin to jam. The only worse hand should be jj and you might fold out a chop. I guess his check on the turn got you. Well - thats only my opinion.

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

appreciate your thoughts mate. i can see what you're saying but when they take passive action like this, AK truly becomes a hugely nutted call, even if there are hands that they lose to!

[@alexlocans4083]

I really liked the 88 hand and just bad result AQo hand was also fine but could argue for a smaller bet to target QJ Q9 AT JT A8 AQs was a cool play, NH! The only imo blunder was 77 holding, I think you got the concept completely wrong. Like they were exploiting you OOP 3-bet pot big betting a board where they have 0 sets 0 2pair 0 straights and they started with a massive GIGA flop bet. Thats just 1/10 1/15 times a bluff for a human. + keep in mind they limp 3-bet pre a node that won't even happen ever. That might cross out those bluffs that might be happening in general.

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

thanks for your feedback mate. I agree with the 77 too

[@elliott8174]

best solution is as you said - other providers need to seize this opportunity

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

🙏🙏

[@Slasheri]

Pure gold again! On the last hand I thought that would just calling AQ versus villain reraise on the turn have any merit? That way we keep all his bluffs in his range and can encourage him continuing bluffing the river. And then we can check/call all rivers if we suspect he likes bluffing. Now of course fortunately villain called with JJ versus your shove which was nice because he beats only bluffs lol

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

yeah calling AQ on the turn definitely viable tbh. even though there are a lot of spots that i wanna give rec's rope, for some reason this doesn't really strike me as one? what d'you think? cold call 3b, call cb and then raise this turn. kinda seems very very hard for them to have a pure bluff. seems much more nutted/mergy. not sure we wanna give an option for them to check back. i guess there's argument to call turn and then donk some rivers? hmm

[@swardmusic]

I like giving the fish their hope for a gamble with one card remaining here ;) Like the jam. They're always checking back a hand like JJ on river

[@Slasheri]

@@BenaBadBeatPoker @swardmusic Thank you for answers Gentlemen. I like the line you played now much more. That jam on the turn is better cause like you guys said, he probably checks back a lot of rivers.

[@Johnny-cz2wv]

He could be raising mergy for showdown so jam>call imo

[@Slasheri]

@@Johnny-cz2wv sounds good!

[@t00mgoos]

don't like the jam purely for the fact that jam at that SPR simply seems way too thin imo.. If you could bet a smaller size like 1/2 pot etc it would make more sense but thats not really a thing in these lines,

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

yeah exactly not a thing to size down. it was obv hyper hyper exploit

[@t00mgoos]

@@BenaBadBeatPoker ok so how about this - if you know the value bet is already hyper exploit, then why not go further and just bet-fold for approx 1/2 pot. If your already hyper exploiting, then does something 'not being a thing' really matter at that stage? Why not go even further into exploit lol. Food for thought🤔

[@NoLongerGrilling]

@@t00mgoosexactly

[@adamba99]

13:12 he was tanking on the river cause he doesn't beat value most of the time , yeah you value shove AQ there but most players won't do it they don't even shove AK

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

i shove any king otr and have KJ K9 K7 K6 K5 suited

[@adamba99]

⁠@@BenaBadBeatPokerif we wanna value bet we want to get called by worst so if villain was tanking with AK i don’t think we have value with worst Kx , or maybe i’m just too nitty

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

@@adamba99 gotta be careful not to be results oriented! we can still get called by better and the shove to still be correct

[@andrewcampbell9695]

all hands extremely well played. super unlucky to be on a big DS i'm certain it will turn around soon!

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

the comment i needed

[@rayanecherouati]

even highstake regs have become leaderboard grinders GG ruined cash game poker, im glad they still offer good high value tournaments

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

yeah such a sorry state of affairs mate

[@HasNoName69]

[*] surely they've done that so you cannot finish your challenge [*] GGpoker charges an astronomical rake, the games are very hard to beat not because of the skill level of the players but because you often have to pay 11bb/100 or more in rake. If you don't want to grind 15+ hours every day for the leaderboards, you get a maximum of 25% rakeback It's time for GGpoker to go under

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

yeah it'll be tough to complete my challenge now that this has happened. but let us hope that new sites come through and keep that dream alive

[@leonidasp.3813]

Nice one bro. Keep it up.

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

thanks bro

[@LabbaykYaMahdi313]

this information just adds to my feeling of scandalousness of online poker. they're always doing weird shit

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

yeah always something suss going down eh

[@LabbaykYaMahdi313]

@ you know it!

[@lindsayb5537]

Hand 1: What do you mean by "i decide to bluff this combo instead or j10 and kj and k10" But how does that matter when you're only playing one hand against this guy and you those hands are not in play? Is this to do with range construction? Does villain know or care about this? How do you know this is a true assumption (i.e., are you lying to yourself to justify a bluff, what would you actually have done with J10 in this spot in a vacuum)? Just a thought pattern i dont quite understand thats all (no hate or backseating intended)

[@BarvGwydh]

He did explain one of the main reasons 88 is a better bluff in isolation at least on the turn, you have cleaner outs to improve whereas KJ KT JT can't really improve, you can't value jam a rivered straight. It probably just depends on the player and how you think they perceive ranges but in general at these stakes people are going to be very aware of range construction and how exploitable you make yourself or just how well/poorly you construct bluffing ranges in general. I think you are onto something for sure though, people will not discount non-club suited broadway hands because that's all you really have to bluff with on this board besides a sliver of 77 88 99 maybe JJ TT. In general, 4bet and barrel off OOP is an overbluffed line from opponents who have a sound preflop 4bet, so expecting to fold out many flushes or trips here is ambitious imo - not a cash specialist let alone cash player at these stakes, just thinking out loud for discussion's sake.

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

yeah @barv explained it really well. you do make an excellent point to the sincerity we need to have when choosing to bet/not bet combos. i no doubt have bias in a lot of spots (mainly based on the hand that i hold) but the vast majority of my study directly links to playing my range rather than my hand. naturally i'll make mistakes, however, in this exact spot - it still feels rather obvious/intuitive - even in game - to not bluff the hands that we want villain to fold (JT/KT etc). ordinarily vs a lot of opponents you're right - it doesn't matter - but vs players we play for multiple hours a day we need to be super careful about stepping out of line. this villain will absolutely punish me if he sees me over/underdoing it

[@lindsayb5537]

@BenaBadBeatPoker @barv cheers to both of you. I may have misinterpreted what you meant in the video, seems this bluff also stems from blockers/unblockers to villains range

[@NoWayFolding]

The 77 and 88 hands I honestly have no clue. The 77 hand might just be a fold turn. Do an explot fold vs small sizing based on carrot corners grade E. 2 specific things jump to mind. People in LJ and HJ don't bluff enough IP or OOP (over millions of hands), and small bet sizes from reg are way to value heavy (especially on the river). The 88 hand...... not checked the solver but I would be surprised ANY flush folds river, and I suspect Ax is supposed to fold river maybe a sliver of the time. Don't really like your bluff though (JT, KJ seem like better bluffs). Why not just check turn? I'm pretty sure solver checkings 3flush turns a bunch and checks paired boards a bunch and this is a paired board 3 flush turn.....

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

agree that 77 fold on turn could be the play. i should sim the 88 for sure!

[@NoWayFolding]

AQs hand vs the fish, never folding. Haven't seen results but 'fish do fish things' and SPR is low enough to put the money in. The realy question is 'Is it better to call/call or 3bet jam turn?' I'd probably 3bet jam given SPR. You really don't want him to ever cechk back flush draws or weaker Ax on the river. Yes you miss $440 of pure air which I do see sometimes.

[@NoWayFolding]

Yeah good play. Just saw results.

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

thanks mate! reason i jammed is mainly cus given texture and action there quite clearly is a lot less pure air - more merge i think. but could be being results oriented!

[@iustinsimon2547]

Now its time for easty to shout'noooo its to thin' 😂😂

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

lmaooooo

[@gentshehu1102]

self value betting with aq on that board is the worst poker hand of the day here on youtube

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

ahahahah totally fair comment tbh

[@NoWayFolding]

The AQo I would definitely check river. Even before you jammed I was like I think you probs have around 65% equity at most. He can def have Kx here.

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

yeah i mean checking by far most std option. i did think my eq was a chunk higher than 65%. i was in fact wrong :D

[@best7993]

Hey brother. I am not nearly as good as u. And i dont wanna be that guy but here is what i think about the first hand since u asked for thoughts. I think really good exploitatively so keep that in mind. After he calls flop calls turn. What can he have? He is obv never raising any hands so… He has an ace… a flush .. or a full house. (Q is folding on the turn most likely i would say.) Asking a human to fold any of those hands is ambitious. I mean he can def fold an ace but even then the guy might level himself thinking he blocks full houses so therefore its a good call. I think its just under folded.. Which is why i would say why even take a high variance spot like that on the river? I would just give up. Thats just what i think tho i am not saying i am right, and a again… ur way better than me… But i just wouldnt take that spot and live on to fight another day Cheers brother and gl i hope u get out of the downswing

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

thanks for your thoughts bro. i can't argue your thoughts! perhaps just too ambitious to make fold such a narrow range

[@TheLazarussLedd]

In AQ hand, how many of one pair K you have that are not two pair? Seems to me his AK is bluff catching and you shoved hand too thin. In 77 you kinda explained that you have mandatory call against competent reg, fold 88-TT than what are you calling and dont really understand his lack of bluffs on 333xx board with every broadway hand missing also price on river is insane AQ against rec, just cant think about folding against narrow range that can merge, mandatory call IMO, I see it like you have to pay rec their money when they hit. Like he could have T9d on that turn and do that.

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

I defend K5 K6 K7 K9 and KJ suited varieties vs the 4b when i have chosen to 3b them pre. So yeah i have INFINITE worse value shoves i was saying i fold the 88-TT on the turn but definitely on the river. just because 77 is now the 'worst' hand in my range doesn't always infer that it is the first hand to fold on the river. need to take into account blockers/unblockers at that point. all that said folding river may well be th best line. AQ agree! tyty for thoughts mate

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

yes better lol

[@CancelIFR]

GG did you a favor, mate. That HS rake is brutal

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

haha yeah it is but not as brutal as 1k :D

[@archh1593]

Influencers need to tell the public poker players about what gg are doing to the market before they become a full monopoly and if they’d have it their way make the game into slots

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

I kinda think even recs know what is going on with gg. but maybe I’m overestimating that to be true??

[@archh1593]

doubt it as they don’t follow twoplustwo threads or KZbinrs like you. While impossible it has to be someone like Daniel negs. Unless we get some data miners to show a sliver of players are winning on ggpoker (before rakeback) particularly compared to other sites. If the recs see pros can’t win then they’d also feel there’s no point playing and move site

[@Ironman1127bap]

0:31 win too much, too quickly. Aka you won a lot without paying a lot of rake.

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

lmao exactly

[@darrengreenhill9587]

why do not understand why gg care, surely just keep taking the millions you make in rake and who ever wins wins, much like a casino, maybe im missing something

[@pauliuspajarskas4304]

Next level of greed - controlling who wins

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

it isn't that i don't understand what gg are doing from a business perspective - it's that the millions they take in rake are increasing constantly as well as changes making winning less and less viable. every pro player plays poker for the fact that it is beatable and is not a casino game.

[@HrV147]

88s too weak to jam river bluff, villain arrives with too strong a hand. Turn check or bigger bet than 20% OOP. AQ just shove pre with reads. As played river I bet 1/3 77 shove flop or fold turn

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

thanks for your thoughts! 88 could be true. AQ i disagree on both counts, and 77 i can see shoving flop being good!

[@HrV147]

​@@BenaBadBeatPoker AQs? 👀

[@bkb04g]

Ben, your graphs look like they do because you’re playing extremely station-y poker. You think everyone is bluffing you and it’s costing you massively. Please re-examine your logic and biggest losing hands. KK v 77 was extremely terrible. And you had several others like this. Be honest with yourself mate. Like I said, your all in EV has been awful for the past 4 graphs posted. That’s not running bad. Hopefully you tighten things up and stop relying on RB.

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

you see the hands where i station because they make for good KZbin content mate! I am being honest with myself, don’t you worry. the 77 may well not be perfectly played by any means either

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

johnny, to say you're running bad and winning at 4.1bb is such a mental leak lol. also you should know this - i am posting and analysing hands with emphasis on theory, because posting hands where i am overfolding is obviously not a good idea. i know you're meaning well, but you're acting like i sit and try and mimic pio in every hand that i play which is extremely far from the truth. i played like 6mill hands before solvers were even a thing and much of my current play is a 'live solve' non theoretical approach

[@MrChair549]

Who the fk even plays on GG tbh, literally the WORST raked site out of ANY option you pick. No idea how its the most popular site.

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

yeah it’s a sad state of affairs mate, I won’t lie

[@sudstahgaming]

That is the reason it is a game, you can win and you can lose, it wouldn't be a game if you couldn't! the good thing with poker is you can also get lucky in key spots regardless of skill which again makes it more of a game as well as a sport, I am against the invite only system it ruins the open community aspect of the game, people of all skill level should be able to play were they want.

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

couldn't agree with this more mate!

[@Caspergomezz]

“I feel I’m playing really well” “So I shoved second pair in a 4 bet pot for value” Pick one Jk mate😂😂😂

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

HAHAHA

[@apocluca]

Cash game had already been on the path of dead poker dream, and this is just the nail on the coffin. Mtts are the only way to go

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

ugh but the 12 hour days are KILLER

[@TeslasMoustache419]

I don't get these plays, looks like punts, maybe I'm just a bad player.

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

maybe i'm just bad mate

[@tuttifrutti8576]

Let’s face it, everyone is in it for the money. Some just accept they’re gonna probably lose

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

totally true mate

[@moesalad2509]

4da algo!

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

[@pmanprays]

FIRST great content my fellow bald friend

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

🤣♥️

[@ChatterboxAleman]

Played for 14 years on Pokerstars maybe time to retire though. :)

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

nooooooo are you a FR legend??

[@iainclark6210]

I can’t stand the place, you play there and always feel the weight of there hand in your pocket. When did poker stop being a game of skill?

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

man i know :( so rough

[@tobyc8905]

Who decides who is invited to these games?

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

elky i think

[@Yilikeitthisway]

Pretty sure littlesquirel is not recreational :D

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

@@Yilikeitthisway nope definitely not!

[@vinityyy]

But even for recs there is poker dream of playing with the best even if its only for a night with a buy in or two that they’ve run up or deposited. But maybe that’s not the same as when Gus? Durrrrr and isildur were battling on fulltilt back in the day. Maybe LLinus and the pros are not as exciting. But 100% the dream of playing cards full time is a dream for many recs. That’s why many got into the game in the first place. I dont believe the recs will feel very happy when they always lose their money to the site constantly. And can’t berate and laugh at other players when they make their silly plays and so on. If only the casino wins only gamblers will stay and passionate regs and recs will go where they have a chance to win. And have a taste of the poker dream. Just like many go live poker for example.

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

really appreciate your thoughts and i can absolutely relate. when i was a huge fish back in the day, watching durrr and ivey etc i just wanted to be able to make it too. and now with the changes this dream is just so much harder. we need sites that allow that dream to become reality

[@andiandrei7353]

some shrinks ofer special sessions for those who believe they can make money from poker, gambling, and they are offering them real life examples of pros with no real life, no family and kids. Because this is the toxic life of a proffesional poker player, if he is not a millionaire, women wont have a serious relationship with him, because he cant offer a stable income and he is grinding in the weekend or night.

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

haha quite the analysis! funnily enough I am and have worked as a psychotherapist as well as being a poker player. I am also married, don’t grind evenings, and have a few $ saved for a rainy day 😝🙌

[@CoachcamsDad]

GG has ruined poker and this is pure justice for all those who went there to play 😂 in the meantime the Euro sites are still full of bad regs and Recs , this is bad news for everyone as now the playerpool will come to euro sites and start bum hunting and ruin all the games , just like they did at GG 😂😂 the way your pretending that this wasn't called for is absolutely mental tbh bro

[@muller101]

GG regs are known to play the worst among all euro rooms. Some highstakes regs also said that nl5k on GG was weaker than nl500 on Stars

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

gg is also full of bad regs and rec. not pretending anything was or wasn't called for either. also all sites have bumhunters that 'ruin' the game. that has been the case since the dawn of poker

[@CoachcamsDad]

@BenaBadBeatPoker yeah but by playing on GG and playing ridiculous Rake in the 1st place just to bumhunt Chinese players isn't exactly in the good interest of poker is it ? And that's exactly why you was playing there 🤣 let's not kid ourselves

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

@@CoachcamsDad so what you're saying is that a poker player is choosing to play in games where there are the most fish? what a shocking revelation

[@CoachcamsDad]

@BenaBadBeatPoker no what I'm saying is people like you ruined the game bum hunting Asians on GG , now you ruined it for us all , well done you greedy little peanut hope happy your back on 888 sucking off nick Eastwood on 50nl 🤣🤣 and I promise u on my father's grave when I see u at a live event or cash game your getting punched straight in your face for that cheek u 3ft mug

[@playedbyanidiot5537]

Respect Ben.

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

thanks mate

[@martinrothwell4636]

My God what a greedy. GG please wake up!!!!

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

💀💀

[@WorldsPhattestMan]

You're obviously a very knowledgeable player with a strong grasp of theory but I'm not sure that's all that helpful in fast-fold Poker sometimes. There's no incentive to tangle with strong regs. in close spots, so most spots are underbluffed / overfolded as compared with theory. The 88 vs A5 hand...when villain called turn I just think you have to shut that down immediately. The top card has paired, the turn has bought in the flush, you only have about half-pot behind...what's calling turn that's folding river? The KK vs 77 hand...who is limp/re-raising, betting flop, betting turn and jamming river as a bluff? Think you level yourself sometimes thinking about all the combos you have or villain has in theory in certain spots that don't really exist in those spots in fast-fold Poker That's my two cents...you're obviously a miles better player than me...but you did ask for opinions in the comments 😂

[@lorenamarioamendes]

I agree

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

thanks for your thoughts mate. to your first point, when you play poker nowadays, especially at 1k+ you simply cannot avoid strong regs. playing passively vs these players will ultimately have you losing at a much higher rate than if you fight fire with fire. i also believe that even vs the very best regs i'm not losing loads too (pre rake). the 88 hand could well be unnecessary yeah, but again i would never ever do this vs a player that i had no respect for and/or was much tighter with 3b's and 4b defends. I wouldn't even 4b 88 vs those nittier guys. 77 hand, this player plays a limp raise strat and 'should' find bluffs. but STILL as i said in the vid, river is likely a fold cus even the best guys prob won't find enough bluffs. genuinely appreciate your 2 cents and im by no means disregarding what you're saying. just wanna remind you that i make a LOT of silly huge folds but naturally won't be posting them on youtube cus they're not interesting. the hands that find themselves in these videos are always gunna be the more cuspy/interesting ones. good luck!

[@rayanecherouati]

where do you see fast fold poker he only played reg tables the entire video

[@WorldsPhattestMan]

@johngriller4997 it's a comment based on my opinion that ranges are tighter in fast fold Poker* than they are in GTO, because there's far less "boredom spew factor" and no real incentive to play a tonne of marginal hands with only two blinds. If you disagree with that, then fine...but calling someone's thinking "Lv.1" with no more context or analysis is classic "Lv.2" "I watched Poker after Dark as a teenager and can't beat 10NL" thinking. I don't think Ben quite got my point either, but that could be my fault, as a result of how the comment was written (i.e. it was clearly interpreted as "don't battle strong regs", when that wasn't the point)...but Ben still provided his thoughts on the hands because he's not a smart arse. To repeat - my point is, IF ranges are tighter on each street in fast-fold Poker, then SOME PERCENTAGE of the bluffs that villain needs to have in his range to make Ben's plays profitable do not exist in reality (whereas they do in GTO, which Ben clearly knows inside-out). I mentioned "no incentive to battle regs", which was misinterpreted as "don't battle strong regs", to highlight that some regs may play wider vs fish, but since Ben is known to many of his opponents as a strong player, they're not widening their open / continue range against him...and arguably might tighten it even further because he will put marginal hands in tough spots. *someone else pointed out it's not fast-fold, it's reg. tables...so that does mean ranges may be a bit wider...but the fact it's online and multitable is an option too still makes me think ranges are tighter.

[@nathankomosa8928]

Womp womp

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

💀

[@1312Mork2]

Loved the AQ hand, getting rekt by AK there is wtfzzzzzzzz

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

haha thanks mate!

[@Verycoolguy1337]

Why are u still playing on gg, even stars is better

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

i can't play stars in aus. and i do play every other site that is available to me!

[@starttakinnotez]

Americas bot room isnt any better. 😂

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

🤣🤣🤣 I also have money on there

[@PIMBLICH]

I would be honoured to be banned tbh

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

@@PIMBLICH 🤣 yeah fair

[@דורקרת]

88 is not a 4 bet almost at all, according to sims related to 5-10 on gg

[@דורקרת]

What you expect from him to fold river?

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

it'll still be indifferent in your sim i imagine. i'm hoping they fold A3 A4 AT. we have a very good price on our bluff too

[@דורקרת]

@@BenaBadBeatPokerTy for the respond

[@lmrbeerbellyl]

coinpoker, lol.

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

decent comment

[@moshiko1721]

Man you taking too much Just play

[@BenaBadBeatPoker]

lmao if only you had a choice what you did and didn’t watch