GGXrdR2 - Voguekun (KU) vs. Lazy (AX) (04/15/2024)

[@H2A_23]

13:23 nice conversion concept

[@H2A_23]

9:29 genius

[@H2A_23]

23:21 could've converted into j6K jD rejump route

[@LaziestNameEver]

I'm willing to sacrifice damage for more stable routing. I know you've shown the j.6K j.D route before but I'm not a big believer in its consistency.

[@H2A_23]

punish 6H with IAD jPHD into a full air combo (preferably start the iad with jump back, will whiff/crossup if 6H is blocked point blank in that case do run up 6P/6K) punish divekick with parry -> 5P 2S j6K jD 5P 2S TKB

[@H2A_23]

25:38 get in the habit of countering low when you see that instead of accepting your fate

[@LaziestNameEver]

Blocking is fine. The situation is fine because he's forced to spend 50 meter to not be in a position where I can CH punish him, and I have my own meter. It's not the most rewarding but it has the best balance of risk/reward to me.

[@H2A_23]

10:22 that knockdown wasn't real you could've teched out

[@LaziestNameEver]

Are you sure about that? There are 11-hit combos that knock Axl down from higher up and I doubt superball is affecting that.

[@LaziestNameEver]

I just tried a similar combo off of throw into superball that knocked down from even higher so I think it's safe to say I could not have teched out.

[@H2A_23]

​@@LaziestNameEverright my bad I thought starting off with throw + the rejump after jH would kill the hitstun proration

[@H2A_23]

16:50 maybe 5K would've picked up afterwards

[@LaziestNameEver]

Very doubtful, especially on Haehyun hurtbox

[@H2A_23]

Why didn't you just 214P every time he did divekick? It's way less committal and still gives you massive reward with a rejump route

[@LaziestNameEver]

Because I'm trying to IB it and that's even less committal. A bunch of hayabusas are already whiffing from me just standing around so 214P is more risky than you'd think.

[@H2A_23]

​​@@LaziestNameEver you kept doing 2S which trades most of the time and divekick is + on IB idk what you're saying here

[@LaziestNameEver]

​@@H2A_23 2S doesn't normally have a problem if I react early enough to the angle Haehyun is approaching me at. I do both 2S and IB depending on timing/spacing. Also, Hayabusa is minus on standing IB. I can press 5K and it beats 2P and Shinken. You can verify this yourself in training mode. Maybe you're talking about crouching IB, which I have never looked at, but I have no idea why you'd crouch IB that move. I appreciate critique, but if you're going to do it then at least be correct, especially with something as basic as air Hayabusa frame advantage.

[@H2A_23]

@@LaziestNameEver yeah my fault for not knowing the static difference of a divekick that has more frame advantage the higher its done and the later it hits very basic indeed The IB barely worked in the first place you got it a whopping three times during the entire set, and the 2S traded like 7 times to no fault of your own, like I'm not even critiquing I'm just suggesting another option

[@LaziestNameEver]

@@H2A_23 The frame advantage is not static but it's always minus on IB. I have already tested this. I have no idea what you mean by "barely worked" because I pretty sure when I get the IB I get my turn and that's all I really want. Not every interaction that doesn't lead to a punish or a big combo is a failure, that's just a poor way to approach fighting games. I personally find consistent answers to be higher value to me than optimal answers. The optimal answer is probably just 2S(1) CH into IAD j.HD anyway.