GHA Milling Machine Restoration (Deckel FP1 Clone)

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Tom Make Here

Tom Make Here

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3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, Tom. Im glad that you didnt mess with the gearbox. I spent 2 months to just put them back together.
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah from what I could see and hear, everything is fine inside there, so I just gave it an oil change ha ha
@dennisa6132
@dennisa6132 3 жыл бұрын
@@TomMakeHere You're lucky, mine (an FP2) was broken so I had to open it and it was broken in such a way I couldn't get the parts out (well a few months of painstaking fiddly work did it eventually). I didn't think the gearbox was that complicated once I sat down and thought it through, and had the help of some schematics. The one thing I did not do was touch the clockwork mechanism that moves the forks around.
@dennisa6132
@dennisa6132 3 жыл бұрын
Further comment on the scoring (i'm watching and commenting as I go) I had a similar area on my machines X-axis because the table galled in placed due to insufficient lubrication (PO had used grease instead of oil, required a detailed takedown to clean out grease from everywhere). Anyway those scores can catch dirt and grime if they are exposed during travel. the one on my machine definitely was exposed during travel so I bought some specialist epoxy (devcon, but there are other brands) and filled in the gouges, I had to deepen them first with a dremel tool to get a dovetail form, because I wanted it to hold mechanically if the epoxy ever failed. The epoxy is not as durable as the cast iron, but all it needs to do is to fill in the gouges so they don't trap particles and bring them inside your ways. Also this machine does not have power feeds, that's a bummer. Does your other machine have them? I'd weigh that in if having to choose only one.
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
@@dennisa6132 Some sort of epoxy is a good idea. The galling I suspect is a common problem with these machines, because the x axis ways are vertical rather than horizontal, when extended each way the ways are effectively exposed and could catch particles in the dovetail. I'm tempted to make up some wipers, and for good measure make a bellows style cover for the back My other mill has an x axis powerfeed that I made, but I think it needs an overhaul. So it doesn't really narrow it down 🤣
@dennisa6132
@dennisa6132 3 жыл бұрын
​@@TomMakeHere I believe if you oil it regulary then galling won't be an issue. Rescraping the sliding surfaces would likely help a lot. Galling is more likely when you got smooth surfaces riding against each other. The easiest way IMO is to give the sliding surfaces few light scraping passes for bearing. I plan to do this on my machine soon to reduce the friction. The gib I will scrape too and that I will also scrape some deeper pockets for oil retention since that's never exposed anywhere. I also suggest retrofitting a central pump oiler, they can be had real cheap from ebay (though they need disassembly and cleaning before use), I did that so I wouldn't have to use an oil gun, instead I just have it permanently mounted to the mill and pull a lever to send oil to all the required places via small tubes.
@AstraWerke
@AstraWerke 3 жыл бұрын
You know, I was getting a little tired from all the 2 hour ASMR machine restoration videos - glad to see something different, dead to the point and with useful narrative. Well done!
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers. I try to spice it up a little ha ha
@DRIFTWORKSINC
@DRIFTWORKSINC 3 жыл бұрын
The spirit of Jimmy Diresta is strong with this one.
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
I got the razor because it was a cool thing, but it is so useful to have. I need to make a handle for it
@DRIFTWORKSINC
@DRIFTWORKSINC 3 жыл бұрын
@@TomMakeHere also the drum beat while working in between dialogue reminded me of his style of editing. Great restoration video, looking forward to you getting some use out of it.
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
@@DRIFTWORKSINC True, he often does something like that during cad sequences. The fast drum beat made sense to me for fast forward cleaning 🤣
@Hallenbeckjm
@Hallenbeckjm 3 жыл бұрын
I am so tired of people confusing what you need with what you want. You dont NEED it but you WANT IT! Good to go!
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Ha ha
@webgomer
@webgomer 2 жыл бұрын
I loved this video! I like machines...bigger is better! I am a bit OCD so this restoration is right up my alley and you covered all the bases without missing or ignoring too much. I love metal on metal sounds when the metal is hard and smooth. That sounds like quality! You did a very nice job.
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad you like
@MrPhotodoc
@MrPhotodoc 3 жыл бұрын
WD and a brush helped me restore many a bicycle left out in the rain. Great content!
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it works surprisingly well!
@bostedtap8399
@bostedtap8399 3 жыл бұрын
Great job, versatile machine. My father worked at G H Alexander in the mid to late seventies, he was on the maintenance there, I think they built and offered a broaching capacity, and special machine tools, I remember one for turning wrist watch winders screws, when I visited as a youngster. This was in Dudley, Worcestershire, north west of Birmingham. Heres to a great MMXXI. Thanks for sharing. Best regards John from the UK.
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Well there you go It is a good machine Happy new year to you
@AdventureswithaVerySmallLathe
@AdventureswithaVerySmallLathe 3 жыл бұрын
Love it! Great editing work too. The many hours were worth it.
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Alistair! I'm certainly happy with it
@somebodyelse6673
@somebodyelse6673 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Unless there is something un-intuitive or tricky going on, speeding up the operation shows the work without wasting the viewer's time. Nice job on the editing, for sure.
@Arthur-ue5vz
@Arthur-ue5vz Жыл бұрын
Those Deckels are the cat's meow in the machining world! Made in Germany (not the knock offs) by very detail oriented German engineers and machinists. Stefan Gotteswinter recently got one and he couldn't be happier. It's the Swiss Army knife of Mills. Your restoration looks fabulous! Thanks for sharing! 😀
@toomanyhobbies2011
@toomanyhobbies2011 3 жыл бұрын
Nice cleanup on a nice machine. Glad you're going to "revisit" some aspects of it you found that need work.
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
It's still in need of work lol. I've not had a chance to touch it yet. I have a lot of plans for this machine
@ermelindowenceslauqueiroz8894
@ermelindowenceslauqueiroz8894 3 ай бұрын
Greetings, dear Tom. I really enjoyed your video and got here via Cutting Edge Engineering. Congratulations on your work! Saudações do Brasil. 6:29
@greglaroche1753
@greglaroche1753 Жыл бұрын
Interesting video. Thanks. You got a lot done in a short amount of time.
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere Жыл бұрын
Thanks! It was a fun project
@MattysWorkshop
@MattysWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Gday Tommy, this mill turned out great, the slotting head is a big bonus, I’d keep both mate for sure....
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
We'll see how we go ha ha. Kinda thinking I sell one to help pay for a lathe like yours 😁
@MattysWorkshop
@MattysWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
@@TomMakeHere that’s a great idea, I don’t believe you will be disappointed
@joandar1
@joandar1 3 жыл бұрын
Love the omniversal table feature, happy new Year, cheers from John, Australia.
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's a really cool table! Have a good new year saying goodbye to 2020!
@MG-Driver
@MG-Driver 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video and love old machinery bought back to life
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@nathansmith7153
@nathansmith7153 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 1960 FP1 Deckel and it is wonderful to use.
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 2 жыл бұрын
They are good machines. Solid and well built
@CraigsWorkshop
@CraigsWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
The editing on this video is pure joy - thank you for all the hard work 😀 And - lovely job on the mill. Those scores look like galling? - perhaps it has been run dry and under heavy load at some point? I would not worry about them at all though. Once you have decapitated any raised burrs around those areas with the precision stones, there is still more than enough flat area to do the job. It's not pretty, but it'll work perfectly - and won't get any worse so long as it's kept clean and lubricated. Those oil groove mods look like just the job.
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah not too sure, it might be because the oil grooves weren't connected, so wasn't getting enough oil. Agree, shouldn't be an issue really
@somebodyelse6673
@somebodyelse6673 3 жыл бұрын
@@TomMakeHere - I wonder how in God's name that was *supposed* to work, without the oil grooves connected to the oil supply?
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
@@somebodyelse6673 Maybe the oil was assumed to nicely smear across the surface under gravity. Who knows
@thomasbeckmann1032
@thomasbeckmann1032 Ай бұрын
Great Video and a realy nice mill
@stephenland9361
@stephenland9361 3 жыл бұрын
Hot Damn!! Another adherent of the "crescent wrench with a hole as cheater bar" school of machining!!!
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Got any other tips for something that is seized? I didn't want to use a hammer 😅
@stephenland9361
@stephenland9361 3 жыл бұрын
@@TomMakeHere Well, there is a method that definitely qualifies as 'last resort'. I ask 'She Who Must Be Obeyed' to step into the shop and give it her, 'I'm very disappointed' look. On occasion, the seized screw will back out by itself!
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
@@stephenland9361 😂 that will do it!
@Dirtstroyer
@Dirtstroyer 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work Tommy...this mill is one of the best designs ever for manual mills. I don’t have it but I know that here in my Country Prvomajska AGL100 is one of the most wanted mills. Decker, Prvomajska, Macmon and your mill are all thee same
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
I'm just not used to it, I can see that it's nice to stand in the one spot to use though. Just the z axis feels a bit awkward. I might need a powerfeed 😁
@Dirtstroyer
@Dirtstroyer 3 жыл бұрын
@@TomMakeHere try to search for deckel FP1 parts maybe you'll find the needed parts for power feed. Search in ebay.de and help yourserf with google translate...If you'll need any help at searching you can contact me... Happy new year
@justweldit41
@justweldit41 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, I’ve used this in the past on a table saw restauration and it works great, they also have rest inhibitor that works great. Boeshield RustFree Rust and Stain Remover
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers, I will look into it
@OffHoursEngineering
@OffHoursEngineering 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome job. Love the Doctor Who reference!
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers! Wasn't sure if anyone would pick up on that ha ha
@gregsmith2262
@gregsmith2262 3 жыл бұрын
Good score mate and you did it justice.
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@jdm2651
@jdm2651 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats for the big work and video. I have an FP1 copy on its way to me, which should have been well maintained. It didn't come cheap, but it has both the regular and the high speed heads, as well the fixed and swiveling tables. These are on a pallet now and taking up already a lot of space, I am not fit enough to replace any of these by myself so I will have to make a wheeled cart to have them near and attach a winch to the roof beams. I think all the work needed to put it back in service and then learn how to make parts will keep me busy already, so won't be blogging or making videos. But I have almost finished translating the German manual and will be glad to share it on some forum, as apparently one can't get an English version without paying exaggerated money.
@천스테
@천스테 3 жыл бұрын
너무 잘하십니다 복잡하고 어려운 기계 해체 조립 을 척척 잘하셔서 자랑스럽읍니다 감사합니다
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
시청 해주셔서 감사합니다. 이것은 재미있는 프로젝트였습니다
@craigtate5930
@craigtate5930 3 жыл бұрын
What a spectacular machine. I have to say, I love my old cochrane bly mill, wouldn't trade it for a brand new bridgport. But this, this I would seriously consider. I have never been jealous of another person's mill, till now. I can't wait to see this machine making chips
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, it's damn solid for the size Those Cochrane Bly mills look interesting. I've never heard of them. I like interesting and unusual machines, but there are no unusual lathes that I can find
@craigtate5930
@craigtate5930 3 жыл бұрын
@@TomMakeHere hmmm. That makes me think. What in your mind constitutes an unusual lathe?
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
​@@craigtate5930 There are numerous mill configurations, but it seems like the lathe has reached peak design? Other than turrets, or bar beds, they all look and operate the same if you know what I mean. I don't know what could be different, I just find it interesting that there doesn't seem to be any variation on the design
@craigtate5930
@craigtate5930 3 жыл бұрын
@@TomMakeHere lathes.co.uk has a section of multifunction machines. Several seam to be lathe based , a few are rather interesting looking. The leinweber UW-21. In my opinion is well worth looking at, let along some of the others. Some very neat designs. And of course some not so much
@brad855
@brad855 3 жыл бұрын
That’s a great restoration mate, nothing better then using equipment that you have spent that much time fixing.
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers! Yeah everything else looks a bit shabby now...
@bobss3704
@bobss3704 3 жыл бұрын
Small world, I worked for that company in Mitcham UK back in the late 70s it was called Precision Grinding but the main company was Alexander precision. I think they are out of business now sadly but I used to build new and recondition old die sinking machines, copy machines and the old machine tools. Really enjoyed working there, also most machines were copies of the German Deckel brand probably under licence due to war reparations. Would love to rebuild one again someday, well done though! Cheers from Australia BTW
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
That's cool Thanks for watching
@randynovick7972
@randynovick7972 3 жыл бұрын
I do enjoy mill rehab videos. This was fun, if fast.
@johnsullivan7633
@johnsullivan7633 3 жыл бұрын
I also have a FP1, but I haven’t run it yet. I bought it about twelve months ago and have been building a new workshop. Once three pass power is on I will be able to test it out.Looking forward to it.
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Nice! Hope you enjoy it. I've not really used this, but I can certainly see it's a nice machine
@TrPrecisionMachining
@TrPrecisionMachining 3 жыл бұрын
very good proyect..thanks for your time
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@garyjones2582
@garyjones2582 3 жыл бұрын
I just ran across your video and the color of the mill got my attention.. Thoroughly enjoyed it so I subbed... Don't let me down Tom. Lol.. Looking forward to the gantry crane build..
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I like the colours together. Thanks for the sub, I'll try not to disappoint 😂 Hopefully you like the gantry video
@VanoverMachineAndRepair
@VanoverMachineAndRepair 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work on editing. Learning lots from you. Great content too
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!
@mftmachining
@mftmachining 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent Mill and work....love it....keep it
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@fabianluescher
@fabianluescher 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I Have an original Deckel FP1, including that same swiveling table, but with auto-feeds. I miss the slotting head though. Very interesting to finally see a high-quality video of a fp1 teardown. Never been "down to the bones" as you have. Mechanically, it looks almost identical to mine. Although I'm not half as cleanly as you seem to be... congrats on the nice job and the great video.
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah the GHA is a very close copy of the FP1. I was very lucky that the machine was in such good condition inside. A lot of people dismissed the mill Thanks for the comment
@jongerber3476
@jongerber3476 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice . Good job . Looks great !
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@michaelmoss6584
@michaelmoss6584 Жыл бұрын
Love the Dr. Who reference!
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@TheKnacklersWorkshop
@TheKnacklersWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Tom, An enjoyable video and one cool Deckel FP1 clone at the end of it... Take care Paul,,
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers, glad you enjoyed it Also I got your stickers, I will have a sticker board update soon 😁
@shaunpenford5305
@shaunpenford5305 3 жыл бұрын
Lovely mill, used to use one at the factory where it was made Precision Grinding Mitcham
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think I've decided I will keep it
@shaunpenford5305
@shaunpenford5305 3 жыл бұрын
I would, love to have but nowhere to keep it
@aguycalledlucas
@aguycalledlucas 2 жыл бұрын
Nice work!!!
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@AlIce_FPE_offcial
@AlIce_FPE_offcial 2 жыл бұрын
beautiful mill
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Preso58
@Preso58 3 жыл бұрын
Nice mill, and a slotting head to boot. How come I can never find that sort of thing on Gumtree? Wah 😥
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
I snapped this up within 24 hours of the ad going live lol. That might be why 🤣
@MattysWorkshop
@MattysWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Your not on your own there Mark 🤷🏻‍♂️
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
@@MattysWorkshop Oh come on, you've got that nice big mill and new lathe. You are all sorted!
@johnsullivan7633
@johnsullivan7633 3 жыл бұрын
I agree Mark, Deckel accessories are rare here in Aus. There is a nice shaper in NSW for sale on gumtree though.
@daveanderson2316
@daveanderson2316 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the effort. Well done.
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@JO753
@JO753 10 ай бұрын
Nise job, Tom. I like the colorz.
@AaronEngineering
@AaronEngineering 3 жыл бұрын
Tommy the gun, congratulations on your mill purchase. I think she’s a little bloody ripper. If you keep taking on big restorations like this your gonna give Ca Lem some competition 😂. Cheers Aaron 🍻
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers Aaron. Just hard to find decent machines worth restoring in Tas ha ha. No idea how I managed to land this one
@zband9016
@zband9016 3 жыл бұрын
That was funny - "this is silky smooth" *SNAP*
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
It helps when you fully assemble before demonstrating 🤣
@zband9016
@zband9016 3 жыл бұрын
@@TomMakeHere This was the first time I've seen a small Milling Machine like that. I would love to learn machine work. To me it looks like fun repairing and using a mill.
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
@@zband9016 yeah, small decent mills are rare. Machining is fun, it gives you the ability to make almost any mechanism
@SilverloafGolf
@SilverloafGolf 3 жыл бұрын
That looks awesome, I like the blue accents 👊😃👍
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@danielabbey7726
@danielabbey7726 3 жыл бұрын
Really cool resto video, Tommy! The editing job you did was exceptional, giving us a birds-eye view of the entire process. Classic mill!
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@jackdelancey248
@jackdelancey248 3 жыл бұрын
Nice job 👍
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@andybracken1627
@andybracken1627 3 жыл бұрын
‘I don’t need it though’! We all know that’s not the way it works 😂
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Ha ha yeah the opportunity was too good to pass up 😂
@edwinsvensson8552
@edwinsvensson8552 3 жыл бұрын
Nicely done! Pristine restoration!
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers! Thanks for watching
@NicoSmets
@NicoSmets 11 ай бұрын
Look great. I hope you find the machine satisfying.
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 10 ай бұрын
It is a great machine, however I have now upgraded
@paulbuckberry7683
@paulbuckberry7683 3 жыл бұрын
Good video, really enjoyed that.
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@nathaniellangston5130
@nathaniellangston5130 3 жыл бұрын
Great job on the mill restoration!! Bummer about the scoring on some sections but it over all looks great!
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
I will be going back with JB weld to fill those areas Thanks for watching
@nathaniellangston5130
@nathaniellangston5130 3 жыл бұрын
@@TomMakeHere Great idea! I hadn't thought of that. My mill at work has some pitting but I don't think its deep enough to be able to fill it with JB weld and have it stick
@markamy357
@markamy357 3 жыл бұрын
I really like that mill, I want one just like it. Good iron lurking under crud is hard to beat when cheap
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's a nice machine underneath, and good castings. There were no voids or filler used that I could see
@mm9773
@mm9773 Жыл бұрын
Interesting paint job: I didn’t know they made Dremels in that size.
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere Жыл бұрын
I might have painted it like this to stir people up 😁
@bricology
@bricology 3 жыл бұрын
That's a hell of a mill! I hope you can locate replacements for the missing powerfeed components. And really top-notch camera work and editing! Maybe it's just me, but I really prefer the look of these old shop tools in their original paint, wear and all. I think it gives it an honest patina of use and age. Newly-painted surfaces invariably look "wrong" to me, when it's a great old tool like this; like a 1930s car would look with new metalflake paint. But maybe that's just me.
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah 100% the paint was always going to be the most controversial part. The light grey was the most appropriate colour that the paint shop had at the time (the others were bright colours) It's all good, the mill has been sold, noone has to look at it on this channel ever again 🤣
@westweld
@westweld 3 жыл бұрын
Nice job Tom your editing is great.....Id love to find ablittle mill like that.
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
cheers! yeah it's a lot of mill for the footprint
@TheZzziggy
@TheZzziggy 3 жыл бұрын
Mait, I say! What a lovely colour combo, that reminds me... nogatools? Cannot really tell, but it is lovely very much, mait!
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers
@woodscreekworkshop9939
@woodscreekworkshop9939 3 жыл бұрын
1 is not a collection, keep them all 💪🏼
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Very space consuming collection. I'd need a second floor put in!
@lfoggy3061
@lfoggy3061 3 жыл бұрын
Great work there, well done. Maybe next project is to restore the missing power feed?
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
That's the plan. Watch this space :)
@TheducksOrg
@TheducksOrg 3 жыл бұрын
Epic work on this!
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers
@tom18181
@tom18181 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice job 👍
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@tom18181
@tom18181 3 жыл бұрын
@@TomMakeHere so which mill do you think you will keep? That new one looks like it has some cool features with its table
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
​@@tom18181 Yeah it's actually really difficult, it's about the same size in every way, but has the fancy table, but everything about using the mill feels really awkward at the moment, and changing horizontal to vertical isn't as easy (the head is about 25 kg and has to be carefully placed at chest height). I probably need a little swing arm crane to change the heads I just need to get used to the controls first I think
@tom18181
@tom18181 3 жыл бұрын
@@TomMakeHere Oh really. Well that does make it tricky. I guess if it’s still feeling awkward in a few months you might be better off with your other one which is still a very good mill by the looks of it. I guess only time will tell really.
@bobanppvc
@bobanppvc 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldnt call it restoration but detailing.Good video and editing
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah fair feedback. For the most part this machine was in good condition. I will revisit a few of the issues later Thanks for the comment
@dragosmates
@dragosmates 3 жыл бұрын
I would recommend a mill like this over any other mill because they are not the most rigid or powerful but they compensate with their extended versatility. A nice thing would be to keep them both because you can't really compare them, but is your decision.
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I love universal mills for versatility. I think with a fixed table this would be really rigid. I know my Hercus is quite rigid given it's size, but this machine weighs nearly half again and it's the same size
@MrBombzzz
@MrBombzzz 3 жыл бұрын
You got lucky with your oil tank. Mine was just half filled with old oil that had turned into a black tar like sludge. Don't think previous owners had run coolant for over a decade and never cleaned the old stuff out. Lucky me...
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
lovely. I ran some kerosene at the end to get things flowing better, but generally mine was quite vacuumable thankfully
@southernstar4353
@southernstar4353 3 жыл бұрын
when he said "time to drop some acid" i subbed
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
😁😁😁
@PeteHottois
@PeteHottois 3 ай бұрын
If you need a new variable speed pulley or sheaves, Speed Selector makes pulleys that replace the Reeves, Hi-Lo, TB Woods and Lovejoy pulleys that went out of business or got bought. Most are in stock or Speed Selector will custom make if needed. They have an actual engineering department; very helpful.
@PracticalPrimate
@PracticalPrimate 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic :) but keep the Hercus! Set it up in horizontal and keep this one vertical?
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
I'll play with it and see. I really do like that Hercus though, it might need a restoration too. I'd have to keep the Hercus green though!
@ChristophLehner
@ChristophLehner 3 жыл бұрын
instant sub, after that intro :)
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
What, the bad acting?! 😂
@paulmartinez9908
@paulmartinez9908 3 жыл бұрын
New subscriber here brother, simply and most importantly because of the effort you put forth on this whole project! Keep it coming and I will help promote this channel for sure!
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers! It's all in the interest of leaning more!
@TERRYB0688
@TERRYB0688 3 жыл бұрын
Nice job Tom, can't say the blue does anything for it
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Colour is probably the most subjective thing ha ha All good, the way I shoot with close ups, you will hardly see it 😁
@greg9403
@greg9403 3 жыл бұрын
I like the two tone paint job. Just like cars with two colors.
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Nice score! I'd be keeping both machines if at all possible, but I guess it's all dependent on available space. Good call on the epoxy paint, I should have used that on the shaper here.
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Technically I could squeeze them both in, but they have the same size and same work area, the GHA is more torque-y and offers the universal table. So that kinda decided it
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
One thing if you do get epoxy paint, check that it is glossy, mine is apparently semi gloss, but it came out kinda matte with a porous surface. One touch with a dirty hand and it stays filthy and can't really be cleaned
@SalahEddineH
@SalahEddineH 3 жыл бұрын
I, too, like to scream at the top of my lungs, while using an angle-grinder. It makes it go faster! (Awesome video btw!)
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
It's very effective until you get dust and paint flecks in your mouth I won't confirm that it happened, but I also won't say it didn't... 🤣
@johneric3886
@johneric3886 3 жыл бұрын
I would use a small piece of wood to push metal around bandsaw just so it doesn't ever get your fingers. I know lots of men that have lost a finger. Nice work on your video by the way!
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Good tip, I'm quite attached to my finger tips Thanks for watching!
@smithbuilt
@smithbuilt 3 жыл бұрын
I'd be a little gutted about the auto feeds but aside from that you have the mill I want next. I love my adcock and shipley 1es with bridgeport head but the travel is so limited it's like 13x6" x and y. Nice blue btw
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
On the other hand, it sounds like a good future project 😁 The powerfeeds sound like they were a pain, they were one set speed unless you play around with change gears. I will make a simple electromechanical system (far simpler than the previous powerfeed) Yes I actually like the blue more and more. Thanks for watching
@AstraWerke
@AstraWerke 3 жыл бұрын
"The previous owner removed all power feed mechanisms and I don't have any of those parts" Said the guy that built a quick-change gearbox all by himself. I like where this is going xD
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
There are certainly ideas going through my head 😁
@roronoazoro9228
@roronoazoro9228 3 жыл бұрын
good work
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Machine_NZ
@Machine_NZ 3 жыл бұрын
Thats a nice score there Tom. Great video editing as normal. Looking for ward to some chips being made. Regards Kevin
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers, I nearly made chips in this video, but I haven't trammed the table and head (that will be a process with 4 directions to get right) and I wanted to get this video done so I could move on to the next thing
@renegaed
@renegaed 3 жыл бұрын
Any plans on doing the riser block video for the Hercus? It would benefit the community greatly.
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I have all of the parts to do it, and I intend to do it before selling the mill
@renegaed
@renegaed 3 жыл бұрын
@@TomMakeHere awesome really looking forward to it.
@bones357
@bones357 3 жыл бұрын
13:58 I thought you said you gave your uncle a coat, for extra protection.😁 Excellent resto, mate!!👊😉
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
My uncle is much warmer now 😂 "I did multiple coats for extra protection" ha ha Thanks for watching
@kellyswoodyard
@kellyswoodyard 8 ай бұрын
Don't dilute the vinegar. Leave any iron/steel in it for about 3 days, and it's as clean as a whistle. Buy it by the 5 litre flagon from most bulk grocery stores. Cheaper the better.
@firebird8600
@firebird8600 3 жыл бұрын
That's it. There was a reference to 9, I have to subscribe.
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
More people picked up on that than I expected 😁
@fasteddie4107
@fasteddie4107 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice restoration! I had never heard of this manufacturer. This model has a very appealing footprint. You chose a very inventive color scheme. Nicely done. How is the power? Thanks for sharing this.
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
I had never heard of it either, it is a clone of the more well known Deckel FP1 (German made). I was able to cut full width with a 63 mm facemill, with a 2 mm depth of cut in mild steel, It has got some power and rigidity for the size! Yes colours are always controversial ha ha. I like it though, it looks like a high tech machine from space😁
@EtherealProject3D
@EtherealProject3D 3 жыл бұрын
13:49 Awesome Dr. Who reference....
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers! More people understood it that I thought ha ha
@sy-xv7xs
@sy-xv7xs 2 жыл бұрын
Recently bought on old version of deckel fp1 . Does the horizontal spindle drawbar come out of the spindle. It's rotating but not coming out. I want to check the threads of drawbar so I can purchace some collets.
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure, I made my own horizontal drawbar The vertical one that came with mine had a bottom thread that was too big to fit through the spindle, so the vertical drawbar had to be inserted from underneath and then secured with a nut on top. Maybe your drawbar is similar to this arrangement?
@testyourdesign233
@testyourdesign233 3 жыл бұрын
A little Turcite and scraping on the worn ways would make that x-axis good as new.
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Getting hold of small amounts is difficult I will revisit the x axis
@sblack48
@sblack48 3 жыл бұрын
I have a deckel fp1 in similar shape waiting for a rebuild. Your ways really need scraping. They are damaged by galling due to the poorly designed oil grooves (which really surprised me). It won’t run like it should until you address that.
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I just got a scraper the other day. I plan to scrape what I can, and then put covers over the back which is quite exposed
@justarandomname420
@justarandomname420 3 жыл бұрын
EvapoRust is the best rust remover I've used.
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
I probably should have gotten some, but the brush worked great
@EmptyPocketProductions
@EmptyPocketProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Evaporust !!!!!!!!
@paulwomack5866
@paulwomack5866 3 жыл бұрын
Some restorers on European channels appears to get very good results from a product called "MC-51", which I imagine is very similar to Evaporust.
@smacknives754
@smacknives754 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid, freakin' awesome milling machine, I'd keep both, but on the off chance you decide to let one go, you could drop it off at my place, next time you pick up steel from Josh at Tyne Valley;), I've got two Hercus Lathes(the old flat bed is a dedicated Turnado now), and am looking to add a bigger milling machine in 2021, maaate:). Have a great New Year, Scott.
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Well, once I build a gantry I can at least think about moving one of the machines 😁 I'm looking at upgrading the Hercus lathe next year, it's a good lathe, but I reckon I'm due for an upgrade
@БайуйДавигоНатряскам
@БайуйДавигоНатряскам Жыл бұрын
Хубава фреза за частен бизнес🙂
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 3 жыл бұрын
Great find . Should be a little ripper !
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers Max, yeah it's a versatile machine!
@greg9403
@greg9403 3 жыл бұрын
I guess the previous owner thought that sandy git was like little ball bearings. How well does the oiler work?
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
It certainly works better without the ball bearings! Now that it's a light colour the machine drips a fair bit of oil (this was on purpose so it gets cleaned)
@GBWM_CNC
@GBWM_CNC 2 жыл бұрын
This video really helped me already a lot (i'm in middle of restoring a fus 200 - quite similar). I have a question - did u manage to disassemble the lead screw nut from X axis? I'm stuck a bit with it and I guess it will be quite similar as in your machine.
@thecanadiantradesman7916
@thecanadiantradesman7916 3 жыл бұрын
I'm slightly jealous lol. Ok I'm ALOT jealous haha I can't find a milling machine of any kind for less than $4000 in my neck of the woods
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah this was an absolute fluke to come across to be honest
@johnmcdyer7297
@johnmcdyer7297 Жыл бұрын
Get rid of the blue love the vid nice mill that thanks
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere Жыл бұрын
Ha ha I knew the blue would be controversial lol
@billbaggins
@billbaggins 3 жыл бұрын
😍 Looks great Tommy, wether you wanted it or not 😁 A bit disapponited about the stripping bit tho, you were fully clothed for the whole video 😁
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
I nearly made a joke about it, one of my video lights has a flashing party mode I was going to set up while starting to strip lol
@billbaggins
@billbaggins 3 жыл бұрын
🤣 You should delete that and save the gag
@thomashiggins4923
@thomashiggins4923 3 жыл бұрын
Great job, great video and great commentary. But will you manage to find the missing parts to the power chain? I've subscribed. Us Toms should stick together. Tom
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers! No, the powerfeed will be an upcoming project. The original had change gears to set the feed rate, I will make something that is easier to quickly change speeds Tom seems to be a rare name these days, it used to be really common
@mpetersen6
@mpetersen6 3 жыл бұрын
About 16 years ago I thought I had a FP-1 clone built in Yugoslavia on e ay all wrapped up. Got sniped at the last second. The old use the band saw blade as a band filer. Been there, done that got the tee shirt.
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
It's a good machine and yeah I'm liking having a vertical bandsaw ha ha
@Jameson4327
@Jameson4327 3 жыл бұрын
The question is what did you use to clean out the tank? There had to be a lot of sludge inside that tank.
@TomMakeHere
@TomMakeHere 3 жыл бұрын
vacuum did most of the work thankfully, but some kerosene helped to get things flowing better
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