What REALLY HAPPENED to Dimitri's Family. Fire Emblem Three Hopes & Fire Emblem Three Houses

An in-depth analysis of the Tragedy of Duscur. With the release of Fire Emblem Warriors: Three Hopes. So many more details have been shed on the tragedy, who was involved and how it happened. This video attempts to compile all there is learned in the new spin-off game to provide a history lesson as to why it happened to begin with. The video contains spoilers for Azure Gleam. You have been warned.
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Faerghast
Moltz23
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Fire Emblem (Warriors 2): Three Hopes is a spin-off title based on Fire Emblem Three Houses. Its an alternate universe that also introduces new characters into the world of Fodlan. This analysis contains story spoilers for Fire Emblem: Three Houses.
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Edelgard, Dimitri, Claude, and other Fire Emblem: Three Houses characters return to put their combat expertise on display as you revisit a war-torn Fódlan.
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[@Faerghast]

THE THREE HOPES LORE ARC HAS ARRIVED! What are your thoughts on the Tragedy, Cornelia, Thales and so on? Also goes without saying that this is a spoiler heavy video. Proceed with caution!!! Also please subscribe if you haven't yet! The channel is almost there!!!

[@justinianthe1st790]

I think the Tragedy when all is said and done is probably my favorite part of this games lore. The mystery, the impact on Faerghus and characters like Dedue and Dimitri is always great to watch play out. The amount of careful work that was put in to make all of this make sense ontop of mysteries like Patricia was always tense. It made me pretty sad seeing Patricia did indeed play a big part in the Tragedy. Oh and its thanks to your video I found out she died. Good lord man, Dimitri's pain never seems to end lol. Anyway this video was great and talking about the Tragedy is always pretty enjoyable. I thought 3 Hopes was great and think AG was fantastic all the way through!

[@MrGksarathy]

@Меѳодїи I personally think Cleobulus might be a trans woman who thought her only chance at living as her preferred gender was by stealing another woman's body. If so, it says a lot of terrible things about Agartha.

[@MrGksarathy]

I feel the Tragedy was in some way an echo of what happened in Zanado about 1500 years prior, and I love how it sets up Dimitri and Rhea as foils. I only wish the two of them could have talked it out in Azure Gleam and even expressed sympathy for each other. Dimitri was very well placed to become the lore lord, but it was wasted. That, and the intrigue of it all is very interesting, and all the pieces involved help fill out Faerghus and make it more alive.

[@Ryodraco]

I've heard that calling Cleobulus a "he" might have been a mistranslation, that in Japanese Thales refers to Cleobulus in gender neutral terms. Have you heard of this as well?

[@Ryodraco]

@@MrGksarathy Cleobulus actually seems pretty unhappy with Cornelia's body actually, remarking repeatedly on how "frail" she is. Also, I've heard Cleobulus being referred to as a he may be a mistranslation.

[@poobix1300]

Gustave is a real G for managing to save Dimitri last minute in the Tragedy of Duscur. Too bad he’s mega shafted in 3 Hopes.

[@justinianthe1st790]

Yeah Gilbert doesnt get enough praise. Without him saving Dimitri, Faerghus would've been doomed

[@hypotheticaltapeworm]

If only he was as good to his family as he was to Dimitri.

[@leaflenster7340]

@@hypotheticaltapeworm He is in Hopes, if not more so.

[@nastypasty1037]

@@hypotheticaltapeworm Well, he felt guilty that he couldn't save the royal family. I thought that he felt himself didn't have the right to meet with his family or otherwise the Annette family will be rumored in the Kingdom. That's my opinion 🙏 Well, maybe at least he send a letter why he didn't return to his wife and daughter or he could give the letter to his brother so his brother give it to Gilbert's wife and daughter

[@l.n.3372]

Guys, Gustave is much better in 3 Hopes. He goes by Gustave, instead of Gilbert, after the 2 year gap. He's reunited with his wife and with Annette. And Annette clearly loves and forgives him. Can we stop acting like he's trash, jeez.

[@Dakress23]

Man it feels good to finally have the full picture Tragedy of Duscur. Also damn poor Anselma/Patricia. To say her possible final fate (which is just one of many) is depressing is an understatement.

[@Pikaman20008]

@Меѳодїи That is literally too cruel for them *not* to do that. The Agarthans are kinda assholes

[@4wheal]

@Alex The Fred Doesn't make sense timline wise as the Tragedy is only 4 years before the game started and Shez lived with his mum for years before that.

[@l.n.3372]

If Patricia is partly responsible for the tragedy of Duscur, tho, then we can't really feel too badly for her. She possibly arranged to have 14 year old Dimitri killed for no reason, not to mention everyone else.

[@shadowsquid1351]

Patricia/Anselma is probably the most evil character along with Thales, she literally conspired to kill her husband, her step son, many innocents as well as the entire Duscur massacre that followed, she is singlehandedly is responsible for endless bloodshed. What scares me is that she knew while she was with Dimitri & his dad in that carriage that they were going to their deaths, yet kept silent, you can't get more evil than that..

[@l.n.3372]

@@shadowsquid1351 Hey! I remember you, fellow Triangle Strategy fan with [that person] in your profile pic! Hi again! I agree. Patricia is the worst, or at least one of them. I'd always believed that she was killed and replaced by a Slither like Cornelia and Arundel. But no, it seems Patricia was just awful inherently and not even a Slither in disguise.

[@legomaster2538]

One of my most loved parts of Three Hopes is that instead of ret conning or contradicting any of the lore of Three Houses, the game actually adds on already existing lore that doesn’t feel rushed or shoe horned in and actually feels like these pieces of lore existed all along.

[@l.n.3372]

The game retcons a lot tho. It's up to fans as to which version they prefer.

[@lpfan4491]

@@l.n.3372 Such as?

[@AlejandroRodriguez-cy8ee]

@@lpfan4491 a couple of events that's mostly due to Shez appearance. Nemesis is never brought back, multiple dragons in the first cinematic cutscene we see, despite the immaculate one being the only dragon, so to say (unless you count the story of the dragon that sank a continent). TWSITD being dumb sometimes and unorganized. No one suspecting the church at all for hiding secrets. Byelth talking, the relics turning people into monsters never happened either, multiple Golems which we were told were mostly underground so i don't know why they are roaming in the wild. GIANT WOLF, USING MAGIC. Edelgaurd's transformation being able to be undone without killing her (pretty sure the mages said there was no turning back from this form, but we it being turned back multiple times, in 3 hopes). And the lack of importance for the Sword of the Creator, Sothis, and the crest of flames (which i'm hoping the dlc fixes that, cause right now they are very extra and non important aside from like 4 dialogue lines).

[@lpfan4491]

@@AlejandroRodriguez-cy8ee -Timeline charages due to Shez are not retcons, unless you mean the existance of Shez itself -Nemesis also isn't brought back in most of the Houses-routes, this does not count as a retcon either. -Where did you get the Immaculate One being the only dragon to have existed? It is not even accurate towards the characters we have actually seen in Houses, because of the Windcaller and the Immovable. -TWSITD were occassionally silly in Houses too.(Like how they just appear after the game in non-CF routes instead of hiding) The bigger issue is that they are just a questionable concept with a dumb execution. -Byleth was obviously talking in Houses, we just never heared it.(Except for Levelup-quotes and such) -The underutilization of certain concepts is not a retcon. If you want to complain about it writingwise, then do. But don't push it into the wrong box. -You are aware that Edelgard turned back nonlethally in Azure Moon, right?(Dimitri killed her afterwards because she tried to pull a fast one on him) Unless you somehow don't mean Hegemon. Otherwise, fair points.

[@AlejandroRodriguez-cy8ee]

@@lpfan4491 1. ehh depends on how you see it. 2. which is something that still baffles us till this day, why didn't nemesis revive in the Black Eagles route? clearly they had the power to do it, but why didn't they? why didn't they revive him when edelgard was attacking the TWSITD? 3. I thought Wind Caller didn't participate in the war (also he looks like a Griffin than a dragon). and the immovable is a turtle, not a dragon (which would be funny if the Immovable One was the first beast we see to get toppled down lel). 4. I'm just surprise that they were so....unorganized. Like some of them were doing things as they please and most of them don't even know who Arval is despite being involved in the battle with Rhea, Sethet and Flayn and the lack of interaction the TWISTD have with Shez. 5. oh i know Byleth talked, is just that i'm not used to Byleth talking full sentences and expressing emotions such as concern, anger, happy and having a good time talking to others. We were told of it and shown glimpses of it, but never have we actually hear them and whether it was intentional to Byleth's character to be such a cold face or not. it's kinda of a retcon since Byelth doesn't express any feelings until reaching Garreg Mach, which they never do. 6. it is a retcon, because there are other people that have stolen relics and for some reason have not turned into monsters. that and Hubert's remark of saying when going through a secret passage and finding annette: "If we strip her down from her relic, we will have a powerful asset".....like why does he say this knowing that a relic without it's crest holder is useless in combat? and the kingdom can easily part ways with the relic, so it's even useless negotiation wise (and the empire is also not looking to do any negotiations with the kingdom either). 7. uhh no, when she turned back to her human form, she was wounded and half dead with soulless eyes. meanwhile in 3 hopes, it appears that the transformation is not permanent till death, it's just trigger switch.

[@apollojustice5589]

I'm just glad the Blue Lions aren't oblivious to the Agarthians this time.

[@LunaPPK]

yea prob was the dumbest thing about that route in the other game

[@apollojustice5589]

@@LunaPPK Yes it is. They end up without knowing stopping those who slither in the dark's main leadership and avenging those who died in the Tragedy of Duscur completely unaware.

[@l.n.3372]

@@LunaPPK Why is that dumb? Unlike Edelgard, Dimitri actually killed Thales in AM on screen. To Dimitri, Thales was Arundel, his step uncle. So it makes sense that he killed Arundel to save Claude back then. Here, Thales is just evil sorcerer, so while it's still personal, it feels less so.

[@LunaPPK]

@@l.n.3372 I have no idea when why you are even posting this my post was agreeing with the OP in that Dimitri and the others in BL route where more or less oblivious to the actual threat to the country and it being fixed in some text in paired endings....READ

[@l.n.3372]

@@LunaPPK Read yourself then. I'm saying it's silly to care if the Blue Lions knew about evil mole people cult when they killed most of them anyway. They did what needed to happen: they took our Cornelia and Thales. No javelins of light. The Agarthans were the worst aspects of 3H and they remained cliche and bland here too. It's not dumb that AM removed the Agarthans as a plot point and just kept them as Arundel and Cornelia vs Thales and Cleobulus.

[@justinianthe1st790]

Can we get a round of applause for Dimitri, Dedue, and Rodrigue? The most based people in these games? Actual MVPs for the people of Duscur. Honorable mention to Margrave Gautier. While he didn't do anything with foreign relations he was an absolute MVP for helping crack the case on what really happened with the Tragedy. Regardless of how you feel about him, I think he deserves some praise. Double Honorable mention to Gustave. Say what you will about him, but without him Dimitri wouldn't be around anymore. Gilbert is basically the reason anything good happening is possible to begin with.

[@justinianthe1st790]

@Меѳодїи idk about that. Faerghus and Duscur probably will canonize them as heroes. They deserve to be remembered as such after all the hell and lies and betrayal they had to deal with.

[@amf9797]

@Меѳодїи I don't think Fodlan will get a sequel, a sequel requires some sort of canon ending, currently there are 4 endings in 3houses and in 3hopes the war isn't even over in all of the routes, making one route canon will just piss off the fans of other routes.

[@daz1543]

Shout out to Margrave Gautier as well, the fandom assumed him to be an asshole in Houses, but he turned to be quite a Chad

[@justinianthe1st790]

@@daz1543 He still did some kinda douchie things. But he was pretty integral too. If you ask me I'm a bit neutral on him. He was both helpful to the cause and helped cracked the case, but poor Sylvain and Miklan. Though Miklan was always awful before anything really happened that could be blamed on Margrave. He still should've treated Sylvain much better. But for what it's worth, it does seem like he did feel bad with what he said to Sylvain at the end of his paralouge. And fully believes in him. So yeah.

[@hypotheticaltapeworm]

You're insufferable.

[@duyanhpham9227]

Rufus: let me tell you a secret... I killed MUFASA. Dimitri: Wrong franchise uncle!

[@Thenumber1yoshi]

Rufus to Lambert: “Long live the king.”

[@jonboulet1614]

But Dimitri I am ah… family. It’s the slithers who are the real enemy!

[@jonboulet1614]

I have no sympathy for Anselma/Patricia. Her betrayal of Dimitri a child who adored her was unforgivable.

[@jas8288]

Same. No sympathy at all for participating in something like murdering the entire Royal family and betraying the Blaiddyds who had loved and protected her from the Empire that she was fleeing... It's so sad how though Dimitri cares so much for her, he notes that she was always distant from him and it's so sad that she didn't view Dimitri as her "real son"

[@EthanKironus8067]

She was trying to reunite with Edelgard, who mind you is her biological daughter. Could you really expect a mother to prioritize a stepchild over the daughter who she literally gave birth to? If her actions betrayed Dimitri's trust, not taking them would have equally been a betrayal of Edelgard. What she did was horrible, yes, but remember that she wasn't making an equal deal with the Agarthans here--she was sequestered, had little contact with people outside Lambert's immediate circle, and Cleobulus used Patricia's isolation and very real longing to see Edelgard to cajole her into agreeing to help. It doesn't absolve Patricia of her actions and their horrific consequences, but she was a victim too.

[@CrashDAMFCourse]

@@EthanKironus8067No sympathy for her sorry

[@GaeaRage0798]

The woman was tricked by those who actually took her daughter away from her. Not acknowledging for the sake of preaching moral superiority with the "no sympathy for her" BS is utterly narrow minded. This is not a black and white situation.

[@jonboulet1614]

@@GaeaRage0798 So because she thought her daughter was being kept from her she gets to try to murder Dimitri and actually murder several of his friends got it…

[@Justic_]

Definitely glad that the developers decided to elaborate on the Tragedy of Duscur in Three Hopes. Personally, I'm taking Rufus saying he killed Lambert at face value, considering just how traumatized he seemed, at the very least, I'd say he was there in person when it happened, with Thales only being responsible in an indirect way. My own interpretation also is that Rufus was disguised as the Flame Emperor, since we also know from Three Houses that Dimitri is convinced the Flame Emperor was the one to kill his dad, despite Edelgard staunchly denying to have done so. Also, the entire conspiracy with the western lords basically happening because they were unwilling to deal with Lamberts immediate reforms seems... strangely close to home, considering how many relatively easy and immediate possible solutions to major problems in our society be brushed off in a relatively similar manner, that things are fine the way they are, that things can't be done immediately, that it's not the way things have been... many people are just afraid of change. As for what happened to Edelgards mother, that is still the greatest mystery about this whole thing, imo. Not necessarily her death itself, if she was really killed by Edelgard or how, but why she had to survive the Tragedy only to be killed off at some later point. Was it only because she was a bridge to the western nobles in the aftermath so TWSITD aren't as directly tied into the conspiracy? Would they even need her as a bridge at that point anymore? Or did she have some other special quality to her? Did she have a Crest TWSITD wanted to experiment with? In general, I don't think I completely understand the timeline and circumstances behind her exile from Enbarr. It'd be great if we got DLC answering the last remaining questions, specifically around Patricia, imo, but personally, I'd consider it unlikely for us to get any more story-DLC, on one hand considering the way 3Hopes' story ends and is structured in general, I see little way for them to add extra-story except maybe some paralogues, or some completely new campaign that'd likely focus on things quite different from what the previous storys focused on, going by the 3Houses-DLC, specificallly probably going more into Shez' past.

[@mr.personalspace7831]

With all the Church characters, and so many of them going unused despite having some data lying around in the game and the cutting room floor, I would not be surprised if we somehow got a DLC “church route”, equivalent to Silver Snow. That would allow the story to delve DEEP into Those who Slither, and perhaps serve as a “Golden Route”, like Revelations for Fates/if.

[@Justic_]

@@mr.personalspace7831 Eh, I really can't see a Silver Snow-like Church-route, primarily because Shez doesn't seem to have any attachment to it, no reason to side with them, and considering Arval more reason to oppose them. A church-focused route would probably have to be something more akin to Cindered Shadows... if you don't just want to say that it'll be the type of DLC to add characters to other pre-existing routes immediately.

[@azatheeverchosen7615]

@@Justic_ Yeah, as much as I don't like it Church route is a no go. Not only does it make little narrative sense, but well IS seem awfully keen to neglect the Church units in this game already and I don't see that changing any time soon.

[@Justic_]

@@azatheeverchosen7615 I mean, for what it's worth, the only real "Church character" that's missing is Cyril from what I recall, since Hanneman sides with the Empire and just doesn't become playable, while Alois more so is loyal to Jeralt and joins whatever side he joins, not specifically the church.

[@legomaster2538]

I actually could have seen the developers doing a duel-faction route like the did with Silver Snow. Even though Silver Snow is obviously the Church of Serios route, it was also somewhat presented as a Black Eagles route. What if they did something similar in Three Hopes where, although it too is obviously a Church of Serios route, it’s presented as an Ashen Wolves route.

[@Sigismund697]

I take the chance to say Dominic was a real bro and deserves to have his own model Although his armor is so cool I'd be down to him remaining faceless for the "anonymous hero" anglr

[@stevenchoza6391]

Most likely Thales wanted Rufus to become King so TWSITD would have him and the Kingdom as a puppet, which is why Dimitri’s survival threw a major wrench into the works. Also, maybe Patricia was used as part of the experiments to give Edelgard her two Crests without Edelgard knowing. In fact, maybe that was why the experiments with Edelgard were successful, somehow.

[@Ninjaananas]

That seems to me like the most plausible explanation.

[@natedunn2420]

I always found strange parallels between what we know of Shez’s mom, and Edelgard’s mom. In a support conversation with Ignatz, Ignatz points out how strange it is that Shezs mom was able to teach him to read and wright as well as a noble. Just an interesting detail I thought might be relevant.

[@MrGksarathy]

The timeline doesn't match up for them, and also, it's Ashe, not Ignatz, who points it out.

[@moon4236]

Ngl I thought Shez's mom was an Argathan that rebelled and stole them away

[@MrGksarathy]

@@moon4236 That's what I think happened.

[@defectiveswordofwarning1686]

For some reason when watching Shez and Hapis support chain I randomly thought that Shez mom might be Cornelia, as in the OG Cornelia. I think I was thinking in my head that if Shez mom sounded similar to Hapis captor that would makes sense but there really was nothing supporting the theory in there.

[@4wheal]

@@defectiveswordofwarning1686 can't be all the characters that got replaced are all but said to have been murdered frist it's even impilled that the Agarthans might actually be possessing there dead bodies

[@Mangatiger5]

If Edelgard was supposedly connected to her mom's death and Talus said she died for his ambitions, including that she "Burned" for them, maybe she was somehow killed in the blood experiments? I may be remembering wrong, but I think it's mentioned that Edelgard's crest of flames is the implanted one, so maybe that crest came from Anselma and something about the process killed her? That would explain how they didn't meet, or at least not long enough to get to know each other, and it still makes a twisted sort of sense to say Edelgard killed her since her death was contributing to Edelgard's power. It would also make sense in that case why only TWSITD know what happened.

[@RubyAPBT]

or they got the crest a long time ago. Nemesis had it too and it wasn't given to him by sothis. I doubt Nemesis made all that by himself especialy the weapons, my guess is argathans used Nemesis however he got strong and wanted more power runing from argathans control. Another wierd thing is how he and the other 10 were zombified and sealed way. I mean if zombie Nemesis was used as a weapon would maka sense free him in other routes too especialy silver snow.

[@mr.personalspace7831]

Many of the atrocities committed by Those who Slither during the events of Three Houses (and the few years before) are claimed to be, by Thales, an unreliable source, all for the sake of stoking the flames of the Flame Emperor. It is likely that Anselma had to die for Edelgard to gain her power.

[@rosieo5875]

Potentially an interesting parallel between Byleth and Edelgard - their mothers’ deaths being necessary for them to attain the crest of flames

[@paladinaeon3834]

@@RubyAPBT The only thing I can think as to why Nemesis wasn’t released could be due to him being uncontrollable. Heck the moment he broke out he wanted on thing and one thing only, Seiros. Mind you they had to of held his body for centuries, keeping it fresh and strong as time wore on while experimenting on it, yet he wastes no time in slaughtering everything in his path to end the life of one woman. In a way this is perhaps the reason why they don’t release him in Crimson Flower or Azure Moon, he would lave a path of destruction from Shamballa, through Gronder and Fort Merceus, and pillage everything around Enbarr before striking the capital. I mean one of the Elites use a poison swamp that it lethal to Agarthans as well, despite them sharing the same goal. It may also have to do with Thales, as since he gets eliminated in Azure Moon that route never sees the magic missiles. The other routes do, as Thales knows when the war is going sideways and is trying to keep his plan of using Adrestia alive as long as possible. Your point about Silver Snow still stands though, unless they wanted the Black Eagles route to only have Rhea as the final boss it makes no sense why he is freed in Golden Wind but not Silver Snow over the same thing.

[@RubyAPBT]

@@paladinaeon3834 Yes I think its really strange Rhea go crazy in SN and no Nemesis there. It would be nice if at least he and Rhea were final bosses like the 2 start fighting than Rhea goes crazy in mid fight because all stress of her body and see him again. And killing all 10 elites plus Nemesis Before deal with Rhea could make her go back to normal if you reach A suport with her. This way would differ from GW.

[@mac8124]

ahhh ty for making this! i feel like it was p obvious that cornelia was involved in the tragedy of duscur, but its really cool how three hopes expanded on this more and really allowed dimitri to finally know the truth.

[@justinianthe1st790]

Oh and I'm so glad 3 Hopes debunked that silly fan theory about TWSITD deliberately leaving Dimitri alive in the Tragedy of Duscur. How does one genuinely conclude the genocidal mole people hellbent on taking over Faerghus has ANY desire to spare Dimitri when killing him would only be a good thing for them? They tried to kill him during the tragedy but people seriously argued "lol they were just holding back they somehow knew he wouldn't die lol and had plans lol" I wouldn't be too bothered by the theory if there weren't people so hellbent on dying on this hill. It was really funny knowing they felt really silly after the fact. 3 Hopes did alot of good debunking fan theories and answering many important questions that I had. Azure Gleam was pretty great all around imo.

[@0axis771]

Also debunked the belief that Edelgard wanted Dimitri and Claude dead in the bandit attack.

[@justinianthe1st790]

@@0axis771 Yeah against all the odds the replacement theory was actually true. I couldnt believe it. Though it still doesnt change the fact Kostas was ordered to kill some nobles. We arent ever told or given hints he may be lying about that. And tbh why would he? Considering how Edelgard was absolutely hellbent on starting war no matter what, I wonder if she was okay with Dimitri and Claude getting killed. Not to mention how the kingdom wasnt gonna just sit back and let a historical ally die/get captured, or possibly be victims of imperial rule. Which is just geopolitics 101 and the fact the church is important for their sovereignty. So that's important. Maybe she didnt plan on them dying necessarily, but to my knowledge there is no explicit hard no on that. I'm hoping the devs will answer this question I still have. Then if and hopefully when that happens, i think theres no more doubt in her actions. But for now I still have reasonable doubt. I personally believe she might've been okay with their deaths. It wasnt her priority. But it would make capturing or killing Rhea way easier. So I'm not too sure, but I'm open to being proven wrong about this.

[@justinianthe1st790]

@Меѳодїи Jesus christ. Well once more this proves Edelgard is pretty ruthless. That's one thing I never understood. The idea Edelgard isnt that ruthless in general and I'm just sitting here thinking...she started a war though. Though I am bothered I perfer the sociopathic clown girl over Monica who basically is an Edelstan personified...I really cant believe they did that. But tbh I kinda admire the balls they had to do that. It's pretty funny tbh. Even if Monica's best character moment is ceasing to breathe.

[@0axis771]

@@justinianthe1st790 It's not out there that Edelgard would lie to Kostas and never intended on anyone being killed. I mean, the students were protected by the Knights of Seiros. The bandits would have stood no chance. It's made clear that the lords were in trouble more because the trio left the protection, with Claude attempting a strategic retreat and Dimitri and Edelgard following suit. And 3Hopes implies that TWSITD had likely ties with the bandits, so the want to kill nobles might have been their plan. That would fit how TWSITD work: messy and with foolish proxies.

[@justinianthe1st790]

@@0axis771 It is possible that could be true. I've even heard that as a counterpoint, what better plan than to make absolutely certain you're not a suspect by telling Kostas this? But then why not just target the professor specifically? I have considered its not *impossible* that the reason Edelgard doesnt do this is because realistically the bandits would possibly attack others who might get in their way. So perhaps its better to do this. Kostas didnt anticipate the Knights of Seiros and is very annoyed by their presence. So chances are if Edelgard mentioned the professor and what kind they are, that might've convinced Kostas to not take the job. Really it would help if we got a simple answer because really any of this could be true. The only thing that is without a shadow of a doubt true is the replacement theory was correct. But everything else surrounding it, and other possible motives existing for a multitude of reasons, well they are still very much not debunked. Just a mystery.

[@gvsparks1471]

My absolute favourite part of "lore" is that one of Holst's favourite things to do is to cook Mushrooms... sums him up perfectly 🤣

[@justinianthe1st790]

That's it? Just specifically cook mushrooms?

[@RavenGamingOverLord]

That sounds nice

[@RavenGamingOverLord]

@@justinianthe1st790 Hmmm, seems like it

[@gvsparks1471]

@@justinianthe1st790 I literally grabbed a screenshot on a loading screen and in the "likes" section it says it I was laughing

[@justinianthe1st790]

@@gvsparks1471 huh...

[@Thenumber1yoshi]

Wait an Uncle who attempts to kill his brother and nephew, fails to kill the latter, and attempts it again only for the follow up attempt to fail which inevitably bites him in the ass fatally in the future? I feel like I’ve heard this story somewhere before? Twice even!

[@ultraginge1990]

Omg I love this. Thank you so much. Dimirti is one of my favourite characters in fiction and his story is amazing.

[@thegamewoods8473]

Heres my question. Anselma was perfectly willing to kill her new husband, destablize one nation, and sentence another to certain extinction for the sake of seeing her daughter, and yet she didnt think it important enough to take Edelgard with her when she intitally fled the Empire? Thats the part I cant wrap my head around.

[@LateOne15]

Maybe that’s part of it? Guilt over leaving her behind?

[@Dakress23]

Edelgard mentions her mom was *exiled*, so she likely was never even given the chance to take Edelgard with her, even more so as she was conceived -from an outsider's perspective- to be one of many potential heirs to the Imperial crown.

[@samflood5631]

Well Patricia never even loved King Lambert. It was an arranged marriage meaning she was forced to marry him.

[@aleisterleopold6229]

Would you be able to do a fodlan geography video? The text for the map is hard to read and it is hard to tell where territories begin and end. Also all what we know about the countries outside of Fodlan

[@PsychoPenguin1919]

I haven't played Azure Gleam just yet, but I'm bookmarking this video so I can come back to it once I've played! I'm sure it's a banger, Ghast. 💪

[@floris1111]

Oh man I've been waiting until 3 hopes came out for videos like this. Great video and keep it up!

[@justinianthe1st790]

This was a pretty good video. It more or less answers alot of questions. Good work!

[@Pupido_McMuffin]

Yes!!! I cant wait to see more three hopes lore! Thanks for the amazing video

[@gentlemattman]

Notification Squad! So happy you're covering this event Ghast!

[@xharhin1873]

So looking forward to this!!

[@klissattack]

Definitely can't wait for more of this

[@kellylogs2642]

I feel like I need a few charts and spreadsheets to actually put all of that straight in my head, my god there's so much information and yet still huge parts of it are missing or may yet be lies!

[@RavenGamingOverLord]

Maybe it’s both

[@bellablossomz]

I’m so glad you’re covering the tragedy. Thales really played dimitri so bad though and I feel so bad for the kingdom honestly.

[@moosiemoose1337]

Will be watching later!

[@TripleExM]

New video let’s go

[@BlakDragon1]

Thanks for uploading this. Three Houses lore has interested me since I saw story cutscenes for all 4 routes. Paying $60 for 3 Hopes or watching even more hours of story cutscenes is a big ask for me, so I appreciate videos like these.

[@leoluster6403]

Please more! Loved thisn

[@TheGeorgiio]

Omg please please continue making videos to every story in FE3H and FEW3H. This was super helpful and creative♡

[@monstermoo4191]

Dubstep city had me dying 🤣🤣🤣. In my first playthrough, I remember telling my roommate, "so I beat Edelgard... but now I'm fighting golems to dubstep???" It was so jarring and funny it felt like a fever dream.

[@eternalflame9482]

//Three Hopes' Azure Gleam spoilers// As someone who loves Dimitri as a tragic character and wanted to see him finally happy, I popped off when Dimitri killed off most of the major TWSTD members throughout most of the story and Thales in the final chapter of Azure Gleam. They may have done Edelgard dirty in Azure Gleam but at least Dimitri finally got the conclusion he needed (even if Three Hopes is an alternate timeline).

[@l.n.3372]

Spoilers: But Dimitri already killed those people in AM. Thales/Arundel was killed at Derdriu. And Cornelia/Cleobulus was killed at Fhirdiad. So really, the only thing AG improved upon was having Dimitri learn more about the tragedy, which was admittedly great.

[@eternalflame9482]

@@l.n.3372Spoilers Yeah but in AM Dimitri and the others never really found out who caused the Tragedy of Duscar. They just kinda believe that the Empire caused it in the end. Also in AM, Dimitri never actually finds out that Arundel is Thales, so he basically killed the man who started the tragedy and didn't even know it was him.

[@l.n.3372]

@@eternalflame9482 Spoilers: That's not true tho. In AM, they do find out about the tragedy. Cornelia says she instigates it along with Patricia. Then, an underling of viscount Kleinman confessed that his Lord and other Western Lords were also responsible for killing the king: joining with Cornelia to make the plan happen. That's pretty much all we learn in AG too, except that now, Dimitri has context about Cornelia being Agarthan too. As for Thales/Arundel: who really cares? Lol Dimitri killed Arundel so early in AM that the javelins of light don't even happen. It's the only route in 3H where the stupid javelins don't exist and that's great, because they're a silly plot device.

[@eternalflame9482]

@@l.n.3372 Last spoilers. Fair enough. I just think it's more satisfying when Dimitri knows of the true nature of the Agarthans and wipes them all out including their leader lol.

[@l.n.3372]

@@eternalflame9482 Oh for sure, it's way more satisfying now. Dimitri knows the (almost full) truth now. But simultaneously, he still kicked Agarthan ass even in AM lol he was still able to have a satisfying arc in AM. And he's still able to make a better Faerghus/Fodlan in AM as well, even without taking into account the full truth.

[@dylangarza1237]

LORE VIDEOOOOO!!!

[@MegaJesseman]

Considering Dimitri gets battalion vantage and battalion wrath I imagine that would make him rather difficult to assassinate. You try to stab him, and he just always goes Peter Griffin can't touch this and impales you.

[@Ninjaananas]

Well, the first mistake there is trying to assasinate someone walking around with a battalion.

[@trulymrword]

I mean let's be real Dimitri is wearing the standard Lord colors, Of course he's the goodest boi among the three.

[@thepheeesh]

While I have my gripes with the 3h-series, 1 thing I like more than anything else about it, especially thanks to hopes, it's it's more. The story has started to rise the ranks of Fe games wnd, at least imo, can comfortably stand along side tellius and judral in terms of depth. However it comes at the cost of being very hard for first timers to piece together everything that's happening which is why I find your 3h lore vids exceptional great. Early to consume, long enough that all the important details are covered but not bloated, visual cohesive with what's actually being said. You're on the way to becoming the Fe equivalent of vattividya (basically Fe lore master). Can't wait for more to come.

[@charlottebernhardt940]

I keep thinking of this as the Lion King. Because Scar kills Mufasa and then forces Simba to run so he can be king. But, in Rufus’s case, he kills Lambert, but fails to kill Dimitri twice. So, yes. Lion King. Rufus pulled a Lion King moment. RUFUS EVEN SOUNDS LIKE AN EVIL NAME, WHY DID I NOT PICK UP ON THAT.

[@l.n.3372]

More like it's Hamlet lol, which inspired the Lion King. Scar has no remorse but Rufus does (just like Claudius in Hamlet).

[@charlottebernhardt940]

@@l.n.3372 ohhhh! Sorry, I forgot Hamlet inspired Lion King. Thanks for clarifying!

[@l.n.3372]

@@charlottebernhardt940 Also LMAO @ "Rufus is an evil name." Ouch, poor Rufus xD

[@charlottebernhardt940]

@@l.n.3372 LMAOOOO IM SORRY IT JUST SOUNDED WEIRD. YOU HAVE A SON NAMED LAMBERT WHERE DOES RUFUS COME FROM????

[@l.n.3372]

@@charlottebernhardt940 Rufus is a normal European based first name tho. Like, maybe not in every European country, but it def exists. Lambert is more like a last name IMO. Also this is a game where Lambert's 2 best friends are Rodrigue and Matthias. I think their names are fine xD

[@trcv8117]

can you PLEASE do a complete fire emblem three houses/hopes lore video? from beginning to end?

[@charlottegibson1474]

I'm over here getting really offended every time someone insults Dimitri.

[@kimsatran11]

Rufus and Cornelia give me Macbeth and lady Macbeth energy

[@lanalewis6982]

I wished 3 Hopes had something about Dimiti's real mom. The one who died when he was born but I guess we got crumbs with the Merc Whistle exchange.

[@erinwyckoff4636]

Personally, I headcanon that Patricia was also replaced by one of TWSITD. That would explain why her body was never found (she went back with the Agarthans after the tragedy), since unless she was one of them, they would have no reason to not betray her and have her killed too. That would also be why Edelgard says she never saw her mother again. If they were both Agarthans, it would also explain why she and Cornelia were close. Edit: Plus, at least to me, the whole "Patricia just wanted to see her daughter again" sounds like a cover-up. Not saying that a mother wouldn't, but it seems too convenient given the circumstances. But maybe that's just me.

[@0axis771]

If Anselma did get killed by Edelgard, then poor Edelgard... Was tortured in brutal experiments for who knows how long, hearing the screams of her siblings as they are crippled by disease and madness until one by one they perished and she was the only one left. Only to murder her own mother afterward with the Crest of Flames. It'd be no wonder that Edelgard's memories are screwed over.

[@g.c.4824]

Her memory got Casca'd

[@daz1543]

This is why I think AG is the best ending for her despite how her more hardcore fans feel, she seems broken beyond repair and shows no signs of compromising with others for a warless solution in either game. With her mind regressed and the slithers taken care of she has a second chance at life without their influence over her

[@mac8124]

it only adds to how sad edelgard's story is :(

[@g.c.4824]

@@daz1543 yeah, a mind of a child in a woman's body, living like a prisoner of a lost war, surrounded by people who hate her and with dead allies, put yourself in her shoes to see how great would that feel. In the other hand, in SB she gets to (allegedly) kill Thales, her manipulator, is surrounded by friends with cultivated relationships, and has the upper hand in war she fought so hard for, so yeah, i guess its not to difficult to guess which route lent her the shitty hand

[@justinianthe1st790]

@@daz1543 If it was her wish I would agree. But she didnt want that. Believe me, I think Edelgard is nothing short of a monster. Who has no right imperialising others and taking away other countries sovereignty. Almost everything she did is completely unjustified and no amount of excuses changes that. But I wouldn't even wish her fate on her. I do agree perhaps this new Edelgard can be happy. Maybe she doesn't need to suffer or be so angry anymore. She especially shouldn't die because this is a completely different Edelgard and is basically a child now. Killing her would be like killing an innocent child who I'm pretty sure doesn't wanna die. Her fate is ambiguous, yes, but I choose to believe she'll be okay. If the real Edelgard comes back, she will probably start crap again. But everyone will be ready. She will have no empire, or country to lead. No support beyond fringe groups and no infrastructure of really any kind. She will either die like a fool or live out her days in a cell. One or the other. Oh and unrelated, but I wanted to thank you. It's because of your comment about TWSITD being the real bad guys that I was given the motivation and resources I need to write an essay on reddit. Explaining AG's misconceptions and it's greatness. So thanks for that. It did well enough on the main subreddit and...no great on the 3 houses subreddit. But tbh that subreddit can be very toxic. So yeah.

[@RavenGamingOverLord]

I was waiting for someone to make a video about these new stuff in Three hopes, thanks for making this video. I’m not only one thinks Kid Dimitri kinda looks like a girl with that hair.

[@krabbecorkorn]

Does anyone else reminds that rufus and Lambert situation of lion king?

[@Thenumber1yoshi]

Rufus to Lambert: “Long live the king.”

[@TheAwesomeDarkNinja]

Can't wait to see Arval lore!

[@mr.personalspace7831]

Gonna have to wait for some kind of lore DLC. All we know right now is that they’re a persona/puppet/incarnation of the Agarthan mage Epimenides, whose ambition is to slay Sothis. Like Sothis, the “core” of Epimenides- likely an Agarthan experiment to create a warrior on the level of a pureblood Nabatean- was implanted into a young Shez… or Shez was born with this core “built into” him. We can assume that, in Three Houses, Shez falls to Byleth during their first encounter. One of many Agarthan experiments fails, Arval fails to wake up, Shez dies, and Thales probably never bats an eye, and the cycle of the world continues as destined- Sothis awakens in Byleth and the Enlightened One brings peace to Fodlan. In Three Hopes, this “Arval” wakes up during this fateful encounter- something which fate deems a sort of flashpoint. The Agarthan experiment is a success, Epimenides is born again with a body of their own, and their abominable power is put into a vessel who, like Byleth in Three Houses, doesn’t know any better. SOMEHOW, Epimenides EXISTS in Vahras- the void between dreams and reality. Wether they have been alive this whole time or in a state between life and death in the all-consuming nothingness, it’s where they exist- they physically exist in the reality of the void, and Arval, Epimenides’s manufacturd “middle man”,can speak to Shez from this place, though they do not have the knowledge of Epimenides. TLDR: Arval is, essentially, an artificial Agarthan equivalent to Sothis, one of the many “failed” experiments of Those who Slither that comes back to bite them in their pale, vitamin-D-less butts, as they tend to do.

[@thegarlicbrusher4394]

This could be just me, but I’d enjoy DLC that lets us play through the Tragedy so we can experience firsthand what happened

[@Obi-Wan_Kenobi]

Is it at possible that Patricia was replaced by those who Slither in the Dark the same way the original Cornelia was? I saw this because (1) she has an extremely close association with the Cornelia and Lord Arundel and (2) It seems tremendously out of character for her to ry and have Dimitri killed. All of my understanding of Dimitri's relationship with his stepmom was one of genuine love, she was the only mother he ever had. Likewise, Dimitri was the only child Patricia ever got to raise. Even if she did greatly miss Edelgard, do you really think this mother would miss her daughter so much that she would be able to kill another innocent child? That just doesn't make sense to me in addition to all the love she seems to have shown Dimitri in his childhood. So either Patricia is a completely amoral sociopath who will kill and manipulate to get what she wants and callously disregard any relationships she built over several years, or she was replaced by those who Slither in the Dark. Honestly, I find the later much more believable as this sudden shift in character reminds me of how Cordelia's own sudden shift was described when _she_ was replaced.

[@dantefilsdesparda]

I only finished one route (both normal and secret) and I wasn't planing to play another yet (I don't like musô, so I'm bored right now XD). So I decided to watch your video, even if it's technically spoilers. I also watched the cutscenes of the other routes and I must say Azure Gleam seems really interesting. I want to know what is going on with Edelgard's memory. Perhaps I could rush using NG+ features ? Anyway interesting video ! I guess you will talk about Arval paralogue next 😀

[@shinelokabrenna]

With a NG plus save, you can skip all the filler battles using merc whistles or something. You purchase them using renowned

[@whiteraven1992]

After witnessing Azure Gleam, it's *no longer* "outside the realm of possibility" to consider that Edelgard was unironically responsible for the death of Patricia/Anselma (her own mother). She's mind-controlled by Thales near the end of the AG path, and there's no way he couldn't have used that to manipulate her actions in the past, and why Edelgard didn't move against him much sooner.

[@endikaaspeurrutia1013]

She was like 12

[@whiteraven1992]

@@endikaaspeurrutia1013 AG introduces the fact that Thales can just brainwash her into doing what he wants. Being 12 at the time is no longer a factor in excusing Edelgard from a possibly unwitting murder.

[@escotanner]

Edelgard killing her mom kinda makes sense. After what happened to her in Azure Gleam, she truly might not remember

[@Neo232100]

Anyone else having the problem where the video just won’t play?

[@shadowsquid1351]

I think what happens to Edelgard in AG in how she was broken minded & under control by Thales is there for a reason; it's to show how Patricia/Anselma was killed by Edelgard. Cornalia said that Edel killed her mom, Thales says Patricia was "burned in the flames of their ambitions", Thales surprisingly described Edel's experimentations as the flames to burn the false goddess, meaning by creating of the crest of flames inside of Edelgard. We have seen how Edelgard has memory loss after experimentation, we see her in AG also suffers the same after Thales broke her. So the timeline of all this will be something like this: - Patricia goes back to the empire after killing her "fake" family, Lambert & co - Edel was experimented on when her mom saw her again in the empire - Edel under experiments killed her mom but never remembers it, thus in a sweet twist of karma Patricia's is killed by her own daughter while her daughter has no idea Pretty interesting turn of events ig

[@PeachPikaStar]

Dimitri best character ever

[@endoprimario7235]

it is a magnificent video that covers many of the unknowns about the duscurr tragedy, although i really feel that edelgard did not kill her mother. Even though she has memory problems, she remembers important events in her life perfectly, such as being kidnapped, the death of her siblings, the experiments they performed on her, she even has slight memories of dimitri, his words, his dagger, she remembers that he is a boy and where she met him, she even remembers his nickname "Dee". She seems to be very sincere in saying that she never saw her mother again, so I doubt that Edelgard is involved in Anselma's death.

[@claudine5060]

What song do you use in your outro?

[@mysteryman3797]

As to the suspect list; I agree on many of the original conspirators such as Mateus, Gideon, Elidure and Kleiman (by way of Grand Duke Rufus) What I'm doubtful on are the potential suspects of Pryderi, Duval, Enid, and Geraint. In mamy of the battles we fight in Three Hopes sometimes we face said lord of the territory. Count Duval is shown to have defected to the Empire, but I think speculating here is much like Baron Dominic he defected for the sake of his people aa in Scarlet Blaze he's among those who is slain in battle. Another thing is many levels tell that there are many malcontents in the Faerghus military, so like in Enid it's possibly more so rebel soldiers. As again like Duval, Viscount Enid's dialouge in Scarlet Blaze shows she's willing to fight and die for the debts her family owes to House Bladdiyd. Count Geirant falls in that same category of Enid's as he fights for the Kingdom as early as the rebellion of Lonato and Rowe. And he doesn't seem to have any connection to them. Pryderi is the one conspirator I honestly can't figure out. But my guess is more so like Faerghast says it's ppssible Baron Pryderi hels discontent with tbe royal family's reforms. But that's all my two cents. What do you guys think?

[@evanpereira3555]

"burned to ashes on the pyre of ours ambitions" sounds a lot like she died in the fire during the tragedy of Duscur for me.

[@4wheal]

I think it's impilled she was killed during Edelgard blood experiments and was used to stabilise her. This would make Cornelia claim that Edelgard "killed" her slightly ture

[@l.n.3372]

Nah, Gustave and Rodrigue say in AM that Patricia's body was never found in the tragedy. She either survived the tragedy and escaped ... Or she was killed at a different time somewhere else.

[@evanpereira3555]

@@l.n.3372 or the "to ashes" is to take litteraly.

[@kevandre]

Something that's always bothered me is that Edelgard says that all of her siblings were killed OR driven mad, which means not all of them are necessarily dead by the events of three houses and hopes. Does Cornelia, in three hopes, ever say Edelgard specifically killed Anselma? Or does she only ever say "your step sister," which could reasonably be one of the driven-mad siblings? Or, counter to that, was Edelgard the ONLY child of Anselma and all of Edelgard's siblings are only half siblings? I probably need to play Crimson flower again because I'm just forgetting these details I guess

[@Dakress23]

Yeah. Cornelia even tells Dimitri that Edelgard has the answers he's looking for about his stepmom's fate.

[@kevandre]

@@Dakress23 I must be remembering it wrong then, I only ever thought she said "your step sister" not "edelgard"

[@Mattjazz47]

@@kevandre This conversation was brought up in the chapter Into the Chasm.

[@Mattjazz47]

@@kevandre However, I did this on Scarlet Blaze

[@Thenumber1yoshi]

Rufus to Lambert: “Long live the king.”

[@dragonstouch1042]

And then Dimitri goes Simba on him in 3 Hopes

[@rockowlgamer631]

While they may have answered some previous questions, now they add one more, who dafuq is Arval. Barely covered in the game

[@daz1543]

Man Azure Gleam just *felt* the best to play of all the routes. We shove Edelgard and the Empire to the side to piece together these conspiracies and deal with the *real* monsters that caused all of Fodlan's sorrows. But most importantly I didn't feel the awful guilt of being the aggressor like the other two routes and CF.

[@justinianthe1st790]

And its because of this comment you've made before about a week ago that I was able to write an essay defending AG and pointing out misconceptions. It's because of you I realized TWSITD are the real antagonists of AG and were being built up the entire time. So thanks for that!

[@tyomega9939]

Eh, I don’t like how Part 2 turned out. Honestly think it’s way goddamn weaker than AG Part 1. Part 1 though was fantastic and the BL cast is great, but with 3Hopes actually better clarifying Dimitri’s politics and beliefs, I just wish we got more confrontations between him and edelgard that were actually substantive, ALONGSIDE eventually fighting Thales. As is, imo, having TWSITD be the primary villains that turn the empire to shit so you can justify jnvading it for a morally good reason sorta sucks away any nuance. Thales and his ilk aren’t interesting enough with how blatantly evil they are

[@RavenGamingOverLord]

Maybe it is.

[@l.n.3372]

@@justinianthe1st790 Did you not realize in 3H that the Agarthans are the true evil? Wasn't that always obvious tho? Even tho Edelgard drives the main action in the war, the Agarthans were always the biggest threat to Fodlan over centuries.

[@l.n.3372]

AG is best for giving Dimitri the Agarthan closure that VW and SS had back then. But AM is best for giving the sole best villain in the game, when Edelgard was at her peak as the antagonist/rival.

[@viki7268]

So did Edelgard actually have something to do with the tragedy? Isn't that one of the reasons why Dimitri wants to kill her in Azure moon? (Before he remembers that he's the goodie in that route)

[@Dakress23]

No

[@graceross4888]

Edelgard was a child so no, at that point Dimitri was losing it. El is only involved because she was a piece of their plan and a puppet of TWSITD before she freed herself at SB, the Empire is home of TWSITD and her uncle is the main player but that's it, she is not directly involved

[@badmeetsevil6163]

Who is the girl at the top part of your thumbnail?

[@elevate07]

That's a young Dimitri

[@naeshaunedwards7731]

Poor Cornelia, Anselma and Edelgard. Cornelia is probably getting known through history as this evil mastermind all because of Cleobulus, and likely erasing the real Cornelia’s deeds of saving the kingdom from the plague. Anselma because she’s been fed lies to, and Edelgard for possibly unknowingly killing her mother due to brainwashing. It would make sense for Edelgard to since TWSITD told Anselma that Edelgard is back at the empire, and what’s a more cruel way than to actually be telling the truth, and letting Edelgard, the person Anselma wanted to see the most be the one to off her?

[@4wheal]

Dimitri and the others figure out that Cornelia was replaced in AG so hopefully they will clear the original one of any involvement and she will be remembered as the Saint and hero she truly was.

[@lpfan4491]

@@4wheal Truly the golden timeline.

[@veemo8830]

Question: Could Epimenides have played a role in the tragedy?

[@4wheal]

Doubt it he was more then likely alredy inside Shez by that point so wouldn't have been able to do anything

[@veemo8830]

You just gave me another question. When did Epimenides get inside Shez?

[@4wheal]

@@veemo8830 We don't know for certain but the belief is that Shez might be a artificial vessel similar to Byleth mother and was created to host Epimenides. And that Shez adopted mother was a Agarthan that betrayed the others and saved them.

[@veemo8830]

That's possible; however, wouldn’t Serios find out and seek to destroy the vessel? I find it hard to believe that she would not be aware of the Agarthans trying to create a vessel for their leader.

[@4wheal]

@@veemo8830 Rhea wasn't even aware the Agarthans were around until the second half of houses. Interesting enough Rhea actually seems more trusting of Shez then Seteth or Sothis.

[@mr_lankyon2065]

if she made it back to the empire, edelmom probably got experimented on to try and make a baby with the crests they wanted, like rhea was doing with byletmom

[@BylethEisner1]

Dimitri: The wretches words deserve no weight but I believe she spoke true. I had once thought that my step mother was among those I would avenge but now she lies squarely in the path of my fury. Shez: Pretty heavy stuff yeah. 😂😂

[@aerogrape6376]

long story short people did a little bit of trolling

[@samflood5631]

Is no one going to point out how much of a creep Glenn is? We all know that both Dimitri, Ingrid and Felix were 13 during the Tragedy of Duscur. But Glenn was engaged to Ingrid and she was just a tween back then. All I know is that Glenn is probably 17 or even 18 at that time. My theory of who killed Glenn is probably one or both of Ingrid’s brothers. Here's my theory. The eldest brother wanted power over his family lands but can't due to Ingrid being the heir and despised her because of it. The youngest brother was a bit concerned about the age difference between Ingrid and Glenn as she was still a child who didn't understand the adult concepts of love while he is almost an adult. So the two came up with their own plan in aiding the Tragedy of Duscur. The two disguised themselves as a part of the Western Faerghus conspirators who wanted to kill King Lambert. During the Tragedy, the Eldest twin slew any noble that not only supported the king, but to any possible marriage candidate to their sister while the Youngest One snuck through the chaos and slew Glenn. The Youngest Brother spared Dimitri as he wasn't on his list of anyone who would "violate" Ingrid's virginity just like Glenn was planning to do during their wedding night.

[@shinelokabrenna]

Dimitri got shafted in AG. He faces invasion from both Claude and Edelgard, all while dealing with internal pressure and conspiracy within the kingdom itself. Its a wonder dimitri never loses his mind in this rout

[@Moda-pf8wt]

I think having Felix much more close to Dimitri in AG must have prevented Dimitri from completely losing it. He said so in his A support to Felix ("You're the only reason I haven't descended into utter savagery, you know."). And the Blue Lions are the most loyal group there is in Three Hopes. You can only recruit Ashe and Mercedes from them.

[@nicodalusong149]

So, long story short, we learned more but ultimately nothing much (or at least it feels like that) and we still don't have a clear idea of what exactly happened to Patricia/Anselma. I can't tell if the writers are holding the cards close to their chests or if they're just figuring all of this out as they go. It's a bit frustrating more than it is intriguing. Hopefully, but I doubt it, whatever dlc we get finally clears everything up because it's getting tiring to wait for reveals that probably won't happen or live up to expectations they set up themselves.

[@coolman229]

Three Houses has a massive problem with never explaining anything. Incredibly important pieces of lore and backstory are often only vaguely mentioned and to even get a fraction of the picture you need to do a bunch of supports, read books and notes in the game, and look at interviews, but even then super important parts of the story are still left incomplete. It's mind numbing how the game could have been released with a story that doesn't even explain events that are crucial for major characters and the source for a lot of character's motivations.

[@shetisme]

song name?