Ghost Fleet Offensive ORION FRIGATE // Battlestar Galactica Deadlock

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Colonial Orion - Recon Frigate
A light frigate equipped with an experimental suite of ECM jamming and stealth technologies. Able to protect itself from hostile DRADIS sensors, the Orion can lay in wait, manoeuvre for the perfect torpedo angle, and then speed away while its stealth battery recharges.It is time to activate the Ghost Fleet Offensive in the time scale of the Battlestar Galactica Blood and Chrome time line.
The Orion class features very little in the way of creature comforts, and suffers from dark, cramped, wet, and humid conditions. Numerous exposed pipes line the halls and CIC, which leave little standing and sitting room, leaving many of the crew to work in tight spots.
At least one Orion class ship, Osiris, was outfitted with a unique reflective metallic hull which acts as an inhibitor to Cylon DRADIS, and can operate in "stealth mode" within detection range for a short period without being seen. However, as soon as the ship powered it weapons and launched its fighters, the ship immediately became visible to enemy scanners, with the corresponding DRADIS signatures giving away the ship's position. It is not known if this is a standard feature, or a special, one-off design.
The Orion class battlestar was first developed and deployed sometime before or during the First Cylon War. Also known as a "Pocket Battlestar" or "Half-Pint," the class appears to be among the smaller ships in the Colonial Fleet, dwarfed even by the Valkyrie type. It may be the smallest battlestar class to see service
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The people of the Twelve Colonies believe that Colonial forces are keeping the Cylon threat in check. Truth is, the Ministry of Defense loses ground every day. Under Atropos’ command, Cylon attacks have become precise and terrifying. Perfectly timed ambushes designed to cripple communications and logistics. Efficient and methodical. Commander Nash and the crew of the Galactica have to keep up the claim of the good fight, never revealing how close the people back home are to the knife’s edge. Meanwhile, Admiral Sarkis has one last plan that could finally bring this war to an end or doom them all. It is time to activate the Ghost Fleet Offensive.
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Translated titles:
Ofensiva de la Flota Fantasma ORION FRIGATE | Battlestar Galactica Deadlock
Geisterflottenoffensive ORION FRIGATE | Battlestar Galactica Deadlock
Offensive de la flotte fantôme ORION FRIGATE | Battlestar Galactica Deadlock
Ofensiva da Frota Fantasma ORION FRIGATE | Impasse Galactica em Battlestar
घोस्ट फ्लीट ऑफेंसिव ओरियन फ्रिगेट | बट
شبح الأسطول الهجوم أوريون فريجيت | حرب النجوم Galactica طري
Призрачен флот нападателен ORION FRIGATE | Battlestar Galactica Deadlock
Spøgelsesflåde Stødende ORION FRIGATE | Battlestar Galactica Deadlock battlestar galactica deadlock ghost fleet offensive

[@Stargazzer811]

Black Labs did the Orion dirty, for 950 it should mount medium guns at least, like we see in Blood and Chrome. It also should have its missile point defense system which as another comment suggested, could be restricted to fighters and missiles for targeting. It pains me to see it this way and it pains me even more that they said in its description that is was "derided as" a Pocket Battlestar when by all rights thats exactly what it is. For 950 fleet points it should be a cruiser, not a frigate. 6 medium or heavy gun turrets and some point defense guns are not gonna change much balance wise, and as a cruiser hull it should at least have Adamant levels of armor. This is shameful and I hope they fix it in some way, even if its just an armor buff like they did to the Celestra.

[@RicardosGaming]

it definitely needs a tweek

[@Stargazzer811]

@@RicardosGaming More then a tweak, a from the keel up refit. I tell ya if they put me in charge of ship design for this game people would either love me or hate me. I have been theory crafting ships for deadlock and the Orion in my book was a size 3 hull with armor compareable to a Ranger, 1 munitions slot, 1 squadron slot, 6 medium turrets on top, 2 medium turrets fore, 8 point defense missile pods either side, increased dradis range and maybe an ecm jamming bubble ability like the wardriver squadrons. Let me know how that sounds to you, whether its balanced or not.

[@isaiahsmith7123]

Sad they did the ship dirty like this. It should have been a mean little fighter, with stealth, good detection capability (Represented by DRADIS range), and a decent flak field.

[@perk7904]

It's a great, one of a kind ship if you use it right and the backbone of any fleet in campaign or pvp. No one ever thinks outside the box like Adama lol.

[@RicardosGaming]

So say we all

[@ArtietheArchon]

How the mighty have fallen...the Orion Class BATTLESTAR in game as a frigate

[@james8449100]

Ive been using it to sneenk round the back with nuks but have had the same results with adments at 750fp over 950fp

[@evobsm2328]

Can you use it in skirmish and anabasis?

[@SultanOfAwesomeness]

Thing is almost absolutely useless. I could see it as some kinda stealth-ship, maybe equipped with some kinda short-range FTL ability-- because it's too fragile to do much of anything else. Stealth is next to useless because it seems to be targetted by fighters which are deployed in droves by the time it's unlockable, which can see through its cloak anyway. I could at least see it as some kind of anti-fighter ship like the Cylon Cerastes, but it doesn't have the firepower to do that either. It doesn't deserve the title of 'pocket battlestar' at all.

[@RicardosGaming]

totally agree

[@Boskov01]

Yeah the Orion is completely useless. Gets detected every time while stealthed. The stealth is pretty much only good for temporarily causing guided missiles to lose their target but they reacquire their target when the stealth goes down. I imagine its good for sneaking past mines though. Haven't tried it though. But beyond that, the Orion is utterly useless. It's like a pathetic Adamant Carrier.

[@Mirelale000]

Why didn’t they use the Valkyrie Battlestar, it would have been so much better.

[@RicardosGaming]

Hopefully we will see it soon

[@JC-oj5tz]

Alexis Mireles yeah I agree, the Valkyrie would’ve been cool.

[@isaiahsmith7123]

If I remember canonically I don't think Valkyries had been built just yet

[@thepyromantic3468]

Vakirye class was built very late in the war if not after the war but I too would love it especially if it gave you stealth vipers

[@Boskov01]

The Valkyrie and Mercury are both in the game now via the Modern Ships pack. Valkyrie's pretty good imo and the Mercury is god-tier, also imo.

[@shanenolan8252]

I think it was attacked to the valkyrie battle froup . ( signal the admiral i need 13 of his mark 3 vipers)

[@JDRhoads09]

maybe I just don't know how to use it but its "stealth" is worthless. I tried to sneak in to nuke something and it just got shot at right away. Was rather lame.

[@highlander723]

I just started playing this game and you're absolutely right The stealth is completely useless. I had the same idea armed it with a nuke I sent it in slowly with the stealth field on so It will last and as soon as it got within range of anything It was fired on more times than a duck during duck season! The stuff was completely useless I had better luck using a manticore as a suicide run armed with a nuke. 😅

[@shaftoe195]

Useless ship. Incredibly poorly balanced. There is literally not a single truly viable reason to spend cap and tylium on it. Completely outside of meta, can't stand on its own, useless in heavy fleet engagements... Even its DRADIS range is too short to make it a viable observation ship. It's a gimmick ship. I suppose they made it more expensive than the Manticore, because it has more bells and whistles. Still, the ship does not deserve a place in your fleet, unless you really want to have one for... no practical reason.

[@YurkerYT]

You prefere powercreep? Not everything needs to be more powerful than the previous stuff.

[@Robloxman01]

@@YurkerYT It should have a reason to exist though. And for 950 points, competing with some of the best ships on the Colonial side (Minotaur, Ranger, Janus), it's really hard to justify trading one of those ships for a lightly armored, poorly armed frigate. If it maybe had broadside guns, and didn't get a squadron penalty, it could serve a nice role as a middle ground between the Adamant/Berserk and a Battlestar if not for its god awful squadron stats.

[@rakshithanand8262]

@@Robloxman01 Agreed. Having tested it out it is supremely useless for its point cost. I originally thought that it was a capital hunter given its stealth and missiles, but its low ammo reserve leads it to not having enough damage to destroy anything but other frigates, which is a massive waste of stealth capabilities unless you equip it with a nuke, which makes it marginally more effective against a *single* large target (how I think it was meant to be played) but still uneconomical when a Janus can carry 3 times the ammo and has significantly more DPS and armour to boot. The whole point of stealth is to get it into point blank range of large enemy targets for a torpedo or nuke to do damage, but it gets melted in the turn stealth is on cooldown and offers no utility otherwise- a single squadron of vipers will be torn apart by the massive airwing of a basestar unless grouped with your other ships, which goes against the point of a stealth ship. My suggestions for improving could go in three ways: 1. Add a lot more armour and missile ammo. This corrects its survivability problem and gives it some much needed staying power. I don't mind as much if it can only launch one salvo at a time, but the point of a stealth torpedo boat is to keep up the pressure as enemies are forced to group up or risk the destruction of lone ships. As it is now, only a nuke can reliably threaten anything worth the points cost and it can only carry one, rendering itself impotent after a mere two or three rounds. 2. Give it a DRADIS 'ping' or other active sensor ability that either reveals enemy ships at long range or duplicates the 'paint target' effect of an assault raptor. This gives it utility outside its role as a torpedo boat and so allows it to enhance your fleet as a whole rather than being a standalone ship, and renders its stealth/nuke/torpedo combo an attack of opportunity that is a bonus to its value instead of an incredibly disappointing main feature. Maybe allow the paint target to work under stealth but drain battery faster, forcing players to risk the ship to get maximum benefit, which justifies its high cost. 3. In the show we see the Orion use 'interceptor missiles' to destroy cylon projectile barrages. GIve a similar ability to the Orion in game, represented either as a 'flak screen' or a special point defence gun that can target munitions and fighters only. Like option 2 it gives the Orion more utility and makes the most of its speed to make it a powerful, rapidly moving anti-projectile zone that cam quickly move to and cover any ship in the fleet unlike a battlestar or heracles, which require close formations to do the same. More of a dichotomy between the two roles, making the player weigh the advantages of switching between them

[@shaftoe195]

@@rakshithanand8262 I really like your suggestions #2 and #3. Sadly, devs won't listen.

[@perk7904]

Your off your rocker. It can be made into the fastest ship in the game (to include fighters, raiders and some ordnance). I know this is a dead topic however been playing a lot and it's my primary basestar killer in campaign and a huge troll in pvp the gets peeps to waste all they're ordnance when you dangle it as bait.