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[@ChewieTheGolem]

Harley: who are you? Ghost Maker: I’m Ghost Maker Harley: That’s a dumb name Ghost Maker: So you have chosen.. DEATH

[@dylangambrell9555]

Ghostface kills criminals: Better Batman Clowkiller like criminals: He needs to be stopped

[@alephnull423]

Human nature

[@sandordugalin8951]

Hahahaha. For real. Ghost Maker wants to kill Clown Hunter for doing the exact same thing he is. He's a hypocritical douchebag.

[@avengingme]

@@100percentNotaBot Punisher? Ghost Rider?

[@avengingme]

@@100percentNotaBot Ah I thought you were referring to the readers, not the actual inhabitants of the DC Universe. My bad.

[@Watch-0w1]

Clownhunter more justified for the murder than that vigilante just came in

[@SuperShanko]

JJ Jefferson at it again, demanding those pics of Batman tossing Joker off a bridge.

[@UnexpectedWonder]

LOL. 😁😁😂😂🤣🤣

[@1YoungRoyalty1]

😂😂😂

[@Malthizar]

"That Batman's a MENACE!! A MENACE, I tell you!!"

[@1YoungRoyalty1]

JJ: “I’ll tell you who is the Hero Gotham truly needs: The Punisher! Murder all the clowns and mobsters and just be done with it!”

[@alltheworldsastage4785]

Jameson*

[@stevenortiz6966]

Rob: Batman is terrible X-men kills before thinking, screws with time more than kang, cares nothing for humanity, constantly changing continuity, uses powers for self gain in almost every arc, kidnaps Franklin Richards from his family, Also rob: X-men is the best group of heroes out in comics

[@JohnDoe-dh8xc]

Honestly it’s so dumb that Rob is like “Yeah Batman should kill” in the midst of protests over cops killing citizens. It’s just so mind-numbing you ignorant.

[@prickoftheyear]

@@JohnDoe-dh8xc stop the virtue signalling, If people like the joker really existed they should be murdered.

[@asssassyn]

The stakes are higher that's why the X teams do those things. The X men fight for their species, Batman is merely a crime fighting caped crusader.

[@jagtech490]

@@asssassyn bruh

[@TsuikeNovaus]

Honestly, the X-Men and Batman are different from a characterization perspective. It was talked about in a different comic, and constantly highlighted, but Bruce Wayne is a rich kid whose parents were gunned down in an alley. He doesn't know what it means to be hungry because he didn't have the resources to go without, to be homeless, to live on the bottom floor of society. Honestly, anything he did for the sake of training was his "choice" from a character perspective. On top of that, Batman stories 9 times out of ten end up returning batman to his status quo of being a rich socialite that fights beings way greater than him and still ending up on top because "prep time" or because of popularity. Meanwhile, the X-men, many of them are abused, many have starved, many are outcasts of society because of their powers, their genes, their very existence strikes fear into the people of their world. They live on the bottom floor of society. Depending on the source material, mutants have lived in sewers, and whenever things are looking up, boom, here comes another massacre to wipe out tons of mutants. The most recent run of the X-men is probably the first time things have turned out "well" for the X-men, and they're in a fight for their lives where members of the X-men are likely going to permanently die. Returning to the status quo for them means returning to being hated just because they were born with power. And even though they may be popular, that doesn't mean that their lives are good, unlike Batman who CHOOOSES, to live his life this way.

[@Longpipejang]

How many of these "better batmen" are going to fail miserably before YOU stop doubting the dark knight

[@Africa41]

I believe in the ghost

[@salvatore4kilogram787]

I’m fully with Ghostmaker here

[@joshuaiable]

I think ghost maker is actually Rob , he has been hinting he is a better batman for years ;) lol.

[@kongsied4279]

🤣🤣🤣🤣👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

[@cidlunius1076]

This mother- 🤣

[@dionstewart7394]

Wait it's all just Rob????......It always has been......

[@andrewtoledo6045]

No way Rob way to much of a snowflake

[@tempest4247]

@@andrewtoledo6045 wdym?

[@noaboahQR]

Poison ivy is alive she's calling herself queen ivy rn and has cut off ties with harley and her humanity. She's planning somthing big no doubt

[@ronaldmullins8221]

Do you have a source? I'd like to read where that happens

[@unintentionallydramatic]

Not surprised, her connection to Harley was always predicated on Ivy taking care of her post-Joker. With Harley no longer being a victim there's no longer much reason for them to be together. It was always an uneven relationship rather than mutual friendship.

[@noaboahQR]

@@ronaldmullins8221 bleedingcool.com/comics/that-new-look-and-new-name-for-poison-ivy-revealed-spoilers/ This is a leaked source showing her plans for 2021. It appears After joker war somthing enraged her (maybe so much of the plant life getting killed during bane war/Joker war)

[@SuperShanko]

@@ronaldmullins8221 It’s in Batman: The Joker Warzone where it shows the aftermath of that. In it we see Ivy at Eden changing herself and Joker meets a locked up Bane to trash talk, with both stories to be followed up in 2021.

[@SuperShanko]

@@unintentionallydramatic Kind of long overdue. I know it’s nice they’re a couple and such, but Ivy always came off as Harley’s GF and nothing more, and this was for a long ass time.

[@BigaloMax]

But see isn't ghost maker being a hypocrite for going after clown Hunter? They're both doing the same thing killing bad guys right? By ghostmakers on logic Batman should kill him.

[@mr.appleberry8581]

Exactly what I was thinking during Rob's argument.

[@mbmstudios9768]

But did clownhunter get innocent people caught in the cross fire when he was killing joker’s?

[@robertdelossantos5844]

There’s the argument to be made that Ghost Hunter (and Batman) would only go after the “big guns”, ones that would likely never be reformed and should be killed. But I call BS on that counter argument. Drawing the line in your head as a vigilante just means your arrogant and have decided to play god with people’s lives. And you can never tell who can and cannot be redeemed. Jason Todd is an example of that after coming back from the dead and coming back as a murderous vigilante. Now think of the good he has done since then and what would have happened if Batman decided to end Jason Todd’s life for crossing the line.

[@unintentionallydramatic]

There's a difference between hunting down supervillains and bombing civilian houses that happen to host ex villains. Plus Ghostmaker wants control rather than unknowns running around.

[@nobodyknowsforsure]

@@unintentionallydramatic So unknowns should be murdered?? Doesn't make sense and not all of what he did is vastly different from GH

[@SuperShanko]

Gonna say the unpopular opinion but Ghostmaker is doing the exact same thing that has messed up Batman. He’s trying to tackle Batman instead of just solving those crimes. Like let me put it like this, if I were Ghostmaker, I’m not gonna waste time trying to beat up Batman. If I’m truly better, I’ll just announce myself to Gotham as their savior and solve those crimes. Expose those criminals and call the cops. Let the public opinion decide that they like me more than Batman to where they turn against him all by themselves.

[@legnav829]

That sounds good.

[@blackthanos5028]

Perfect plan 👌🏾💯

[@JohnDoe-dh8xc]

Ghost maker is likely an ego-maniac

[@arafatromi5828]

Another unpopular opinion: the mass is not always right. It is fundamentally wrong to kill even judging a serial killer you have to give him the benefit of the doubt that he can reform himself(obviously there is a limit and due punishment). Just as a human has an infinite potential to do good as well evil. But sadly I guess I'm the only one who thinks like this. It's almost like everybody is out for blood these days be it for justice or injustice.

[@DivineVirtue777]

Well the reason why Ghostmaker is fighting Batman is because he was stopped by Batman when he was on his way to kill Clown Hunter.

[@decobyjones9491]

Rob: Ghost maker is a better batman. Batman: Explains how he not only knew about the crimes but goes on and explains how he was going beyond what ghost maker did to take down the criminals. Me: How is he better than Batman?

[@lokiragnarok1881]

Because his solution is permanent, Batman could die any moment leaving these loose strings forever but Ghost maker has completely killed his enemies

[@decobyjones9491]

@@lokiragnarok1881 If batman dies the rest of the bat fam will set up not leaving gotham to his villains but this wasn't even what I was talking about though. I was Saying how Ghostmaker failed by trying to show up batman instead ruined Bruce's plans.

[@SA80TAGE]

@@lokiragnarok1881 except GhostMaker never actually killed any of those examples, he just ruined lots of time and effort for better results, just so he could have the quicker result. Like the analogy noted, GhostMaker was busting the drug dealers, not the drug suppliers who are the real problem. And like OP said, the rest of the Bat Fam would've taken up the mission, with all these particular crimes having their own files on the Bat-computer, hell the serial killer was even being tailed by Cassy... you have no argument here mate.

[@lokiragnarok1881]

@@decobyjones9491 that's incorrect where was the rest of the Bat family every time hes died or disappeared fighting amongst themselves for his mantle, completely leaving the lifestyle or disappearing all together the rest of the Bat family is too self absorbed without Batman to follow up with half these plans. You've read the story of when Batman dissappear the family falls into disarray

[@TheJacobG]

The argument against people like Ghost Maker is "Why are you allowed to be judge, jury, and executioner?" If the justice system is broken, the response isn't to take the law into your own hands. The response is to fix the broken system.

[@codyhumble7855]

also, to point out, the government is already judge, jury and executioner. The government might not be a single person, but it is a single entity with its own interests.

[@morganmiller2579]

Either way it's up to someone outside the law to fix the system so why not make everything more permanent

[@digunder14]

to be fair, ghost maker's whole "you're too emotional" isn't really valid given the discussion and him knocking out harley for saying she thinks his alias is dumb

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

*Batman:* “I’m the hero this city deserves, but not the one it needs!” *Ghost Maker:* “Buddy, you’re the hero this city HAS.”

[@donovandavis7398]

Ghostmaker: I'm bout to end this mans whole career

[@Auron1Roxas2]

The comic literally shows how ghost maker doesn't know gotham and how his actions just made things worse.

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

@@Auron1Roxas2 *wink* *touches tip of nose*

[@aidas52]

Exactly

[@calebelectric]

@@Auron1Roxas2 Honestly he’s just another Red hood about to get his ass kicked by Batman

[@PS3customer]

Whenever the topic of "if Batman should kill or not" comes up I'm reminded of Netflix's Daredevil season two where Matt and Frank are on the rooftop and they criticize each other's method of justice. Matt says that Frank treats the city like a shooting gallery where he mindlessly shoots at targets while Frank says Matt treats this city like a playground beating up the bullies and putting them in time out. It's an age old argument.

[@glazed_waffle5629]

I'd kill only if the circumstances really called for it because SOME villains prove to be irredeemable.

[@glazed_waffle5629]

@@malus1426 Hey at least I saved lives from the Joker take me to court and see how well that argument plays out.

[@imnotblindbutiloveblindfol8449]

@@glazed_waffle5629 LMAO facts. If I was Batman and killed the joker and was then prosecuted, I’d expect the jury to say I’m innocent JUST BECAUSE I SAVED THE ENTIRE CITY FROM A MURDEROUS PSYCHOTIC CLOWN

[@ziglaus]

The correct answer, of course, is fixing the judicial system. When judges are corrupt, and entire police departments are corrupt, and even guards in mental asylums are corrupt, and the doctors running those asylums are corrupt, then maybe, just maybe the problem doesn't lie with the petty criminals and an occasional villain. Bruce should run for mayor, and if that doesn't work, then governor. Spend the time and resources he has on running for political positions. Appoint good, incorruptible people, heck maybe ask for help from outside. But Batman as a political drama wouldn't sell, because there would be no punching, and that would not be Batman, but Bruce Wayne.

[@MrNickPresley]

​@@malus1426 See, there are two problems with that stance that keep coming up. 1) You're not a ridiculously-dressed cop. You're a *vigilante* . The whole point of being a vigilante is that you're supposed to be able to do the things that the cops can't, and deliver justice unto people the law can't touch. If some guy killed my kid in cold blood, and kept his bones as a trophy, he'd be fucking dead, law be damned. I wouldn't be doing it if the law actually put that godless animal away like it was supposed to. 2) It's been proven time and again that people like The Joker are wholly irredeemable, and the facilities meant to hold/treat them are woefully insufficient, and only allow them to recuperate before escaping and harming yet more innocent people.

[@galio7741]

No one is a better Batman, than Batman himself, this guy will not last, he is temporary, Batman is eternal.

[@seth9655]

A character who belives some villains should be killed. Rob: Better than Batman.

[@immersivecomics1603]

Rob always points out how much he wishes Batman would kill😂

[@UnexpectedWonder]

Ikr?! It's ridiculous.

[@MrMannGaming]

He wish batman kills, he's just stating that batman's system of stopping villains and them escaping and hurting more people is flawed

[@FleshWolf]

@@MrMannGaming broken record

[@kane3j336]

People don’t understand what Batman would lose if he drops his moral code & starts killing. It’s ridiculous that Rob is on this repetitive tangent about how flawed Batman’s methods are when the 9 million people in Gotham live there for the chaos. He clearly saw them blend right back in society after they put their joker masks away.

[@danielc.b.4537]

Comic Book Fans: They need to stop using death as a plot point! It never sticks, the character always comes back, and they just get replaced until they come back! Also Comic Book Fans: Why doesn’t Batman kill all these psychos?! What a puss! If killing criminals accomplished anything, the Punisher would have been done decades ago.

[@dugestyle78]

Rob: people use the cookie cutter argument that Batman will move the line he sets if he starts killing villains and that’s just not true. Rob 10 minutes later: When will Batman stop making excuses for everyone? Love ya Rob but sometimes you cancel out your own arguments.

[@ajdaking507]

Actually he didn't cancel out his own arguments at all. The moving the line argument was used to somewhat explain what would happen if he actually started killing people. The second statement "when will batman stop making excuses for people" is making an attempt to poke a hole in Bruce's no killing rule itself. Meaning when will you stop making excuses for this criminals (joker, two-face, etc) and kill them before they take out even more people than they already have.

[@TheInfamousone99]

Take a shot every time Rob mentions how Batman should kill people or how Batman isn’t doing a good job protecting Gotham.

[@bubbles784]

Are you trying to kill us? In that case you should watch out for (checks hand for scribbles of the names of Anti-heroes that kill criminals), um... ReD GhoST HunTER HooD, yea that guy I think.

[@brumtownmiller6130]

He not wrong tho

[@aidanwagner118]

@@brumtownmiller6130 nah it’s gotham’s failure to legally put these guys down permanently.

[@thewolf01x95]

I will n I'll be happy cus rob is right 🙃

[@thewolf01x95]

@@malus1426 dumbass

[@LiveRaidei]

I would ABSOLUTELY LOVE to see a storyline from the perspective of a child who became orphaned because the Joker/two-face/whatever super villain killed his parents - after Batman had given that villain chance after chance to stop killing people. And get this, the kid doesn't grow up to be some revenge-seeking maniac. He's just a logical person who FINALLY brings Batman to task and confront the consequences of his unwillingness to do what's necessary against SUPER VILLAINS of the Joker's caliber. i.e. dead innocents who may have been parents, brothers, sisters, sons, daughters etc., and how the people left behind have to cope. No one forced Batman to put on the cape and cowl and fight these villains but he took on the responsibility of his own accord, so he has to be brought to face the consequences of his unwillingness to do what he needed to do to protect the people of Gotham.

[@LiveRaidei]

A storyline where we don't get the cop-out of "The kid has a point, but we get to just brush that aside because he did a lot of bad things too"

[@spiralpower1620]

Unfortunately the closest to this storyline is still Jason in Under the red hood

[@lucariomew365]

Posion Ivy returns in a humanoid but plant based form at the end of Heroes in Crisis. Basically she's now a super model ginger version of Swamp Thing. She has since popped up here and there. She recently punished the henchmen of Punchline who destroyed one of her many hidden (newly introduced) sanctuarys while fighting Batman and Harley Quinn-this was during the end phase/aftermath of the Joker War.

[@lucariomew365]

@noponwisdom t She died a horrible death, transfered her soul/consciousness into a plant, which eventually grew an entirely new plant based body (she looks like a dryad or meliae) that gives her an even greater connection to the green and amplified powers. That's basically Swamp Thing but without the extra mysticism 🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️.

[@jamesmulrey6061]

My guess is Ghostmaker is going to run into something far worse than he could imagine. He’s gonna create it. His actions are going to push the villains to become worse and eventually will lead to a either someone new or suped up Joker and his idealism will fail because he will need Bruce to solve the problem.

[@ChroniclerofLore]

Why is this story giving me Superior Spiderman vibes? Where a darker more harsh version of Spiderman takes over and actually does make some things better but at the end 1 thing occurs that the methods of the original spiderman are needed to solve. I see this story going that way. Where Ghost Maker makes the city better for a while, but then the Joker, upset that someone replaces Batman, starts cutting a swathe through Gotham and Ghost Maker has to get Batman to deal with him, finally admitting that it takes a bit of both of their methods to improve the city.

[@nickolaibernar16]

Bro why does that sound like it could be a spoiler?

[@bubbles784]

Yea getting that feeling too. I'm a bit iffy about the Joker part since we had Joker War and Three Jokers, but Joker does seem like the character that would tear Gotham apart if he knew that Batman was replaced by some new guy that kills people. That part in the Dark Designs arc with Deathstroke saying that Batman escalated the war against crime seems to give me an idea where Ghost Maker is going to make the city worst, probably starts with the police not trusting him since they trust Batman and his methods. Then if DC is ballsy have Ghost Maker start killing the inmates in Arkham (could be D-list with the excuse that the A-list already broke out) giving him public support, but later fear since he'd keep killing criminals which doesn't really give their victims any legal closure as mention in the video 11:00.

[@DOYLIE189]

this is giving me major hush vibes more than anything else,the only major difference between hush and ghostmaker is that ghostmaker got the exact same training as bruce which btw is one fucking hella retcon,like not only the same training but apparently beats him to each master that bruce eventually trained with,speaking of im calling it thats gonna play a big part in the story how he constantly beat bruce to each master

[@ryanblaz4118]

You're arguing that the guy trying to slice off a 17 year old's head is a good person, who is better than batman...

[@nids529]

Yeah I’m starting to wonder what Rob’s moral code is since he thinks killing anyone that even commits a minor crime should be murdered by Batman including children

[@johnlawful2272]

@@nids529 must be an anakin Skywalker fan

[@sandordugalin8951]

Dude, Rob even admitted if the Rob Corps were a real lantern corps that he'd be evil. 😂😂😂

[@nids529]

@@johnlawful2272 yep definitely 😂

[@capsall1132]

So by the logic of ghost maker he himself should be unalived because he’s trying to Unalive a 17 year old kid while also committing multiple other crimes.

[@SauceyFredo]

They should all be deborn because they are breaking and entering and any criminal gets ghostmade

[@nobodyknowsforsure]

@@malus1426 I like Rob but he has extreme viewpoints.

[@saucystavii2064]

I think robs argument on that one was kind of weak imo. I would say killing a kid who kills out of vengeance and grief is morally wrong when you could just teach him to be better or something

[@codyhumble7855]

Ghostmaker's goals are to bring justice to the lawless, regardless of the efficacy of the law, regardless of the other possibilities. That's not much different from anyone else, except that this guy also is willing to kill people. "Breaking one law to enforce another" doesn't make sense, like you said, but leaders should be willing to question the integrity of the law in the first place. So if someone like Ghostmaker had the opportunity to respond to what you said, their best argument would probably go like this: 'When the law doesn't work, do you support inaction? What else are you going to do, leave him in the hands of authorities that have consistently displayed their lack of desire to produce a decent Gotham?' You shouldn't be mad at the people trying to fix things. You should be mad at the people who spend their careers profiting off furthering the problems, or neglecting the problems. (American Politics)

[@saucystavii2064]

@@codyhumble7855 agree

[@i.am.not.herbert]

You don't know how to categorize that relationship? They're Frenemies

[@saucystavii2064]

Thought it was more a sasuke naruto rivalry

[@durk5331]

I was gonna say Rivals

[@i.am.not.herbert]

@@durk5331 i guess... yeah. Like Naruto / Black Clover style rivals. Totes

[@i.am.not.herbert]

@@saucystavii2064 that works

[@jaggedvisions]

I am loving these drawings. They’re super “90s” Batman

[@gorefist3907]

I'm calling it now. This guy will be the new Alfred styled character. Leading Bruce/Batman in a new updated for the times direction.

[@ziletales]

That would be so cool! And what a twist!

[@gorefist3907]

@@ziletales 1. Love your name! 2. I think it's bold and a great direction, and the only logical thing to do imo, as they both have the same goal, just different means of getting it done. Student/teacher relationship on several levels. From professional, to vigilante, to even dare I say competition. What if after the release of Wayne Tech, this guy buys the company in parts? There is so much going on here with great possibilities.

[@ziletales]

@@gorefist3907 1. Thanks. 2. That would be great, it feels like Batman would evolve hence Gotham would change. 3. Do you get the feeling like Bruce might reveal to the world that he is Batman, I don't know why but I feel like he will at some point now.

[@themanmoses1537]

@@ziletales I think that they should hold off on that until there next Joker arc. I think that would drive the Joker even crazier than he already is.

[@hartrods]

Great theory!

[@dragonman011]

I mean if the argument against Batman's or any other comic character's tactics or moral grounds is always gonna be "They don't kill their villains therefore they're not an effective superhero", in the end it's not an effective argument from a realistic or in-universe standpoint imo.

[@TheRussianSaint18]

Batman doesn’t believe he should wield the power of life and death. There is still a very contentious societal debate surrounding whether the State should be allowed that authority. Rob makes the argument that the citizens of Gotham don’t stand up to Batman nor the villains, so they get what they deserve. However, I think that’s an overly critical perspective regarding the poor and struggling. After all, the people of Gotham often want change, but do not want to die or put their loved ones’ lives in danger for that change. Batman may be trying to make a broken system work, but at least he still believes that the system can work. While this may be optimistic on Batman’s part, the alternative simply leads to anarchy and power vacuums.

[@noaboahQR]

Ahhhh Rob. Making arguments to kill 17 year old murderers lmfao never change my dude

[@djhutchison]

"Superior Batman" No thanks, we already had Azrael.

[@scinnyc]

Actually, Azrael was a better Batman. He beat the sh!t outta Bane and killed a serial killer who tried to kill a bus full of kids in their previous battle. Azrael's only weakness was his mental instability, which he eventually learned to control.

[@scinnyc]

@Gabriel Vinícius do Nascimento The pre-Flashpoint Jean Paul Valley version of Azrael was still a bad ass after he learned to control his programming/psychosis. He beat Bane again while suffering from broken ribs, Venom withdraw, exhaustion and hunger. Hell, he even beat Batman in a rematch as Azrael

[@scinnyc]

@Gabriel Vinícius do Nascimento It all depends on your perspective. To me Batman is a failure because all of the killers that he catches end up escaping and killing again. Anti-heroes get results. If Punisher was in the DC Universe and protected Gotham all the killers who go to Arkham every month would be dead and thousands of innocent people would still be alive

[@showkingsent]

Exactly. Azrael was basically the original draft for Batgirl, Red Hood and Damian Wayne but gets no love or the shine he deserves.

[@gieldecloet7987]

@@scinnyc you know in canon the crime rate in gotham dropped when batman appeared.

[@yeahthatpat]

Jesus Christ, Rob. He's Batman, not The Punisher. Get over the fact that he doesn't kill people. You mention it once a video.

[@UnexpectedWonder]

Pretty much.

[@MrMannGaming]

But he's right

[@jackmakila3776]

He'll stop mentioning it as soon as batman gets over his parents death

[@JohnDoe97637]

@@MrMannGaming He's not supposed to. That's the reason for his mission. You people need to stop hopping onto videos just to hate on the character. He's not even the only superhero that has a no-kill rule. Most of them do. You could say the same thing about any other hero.

[@calebelectric]

@@MrMannGaming No he’s not . It’s the same edge lord angst argument with zero substance and philosophy instead of logic and morality. Killing is like a drug , do it once becomes easier the second, third moving on. Rob’s logic for Batman is to have him become Owl Man basically.

[@kalenberreman8252]

"At what point does Batman stop making excuses for people." FFS dude. He isn't making excuses, he's literally just describing the situation. And by your own standards, Clownhunter is doing the right thing because he's only killing violent criminals. So killing him is okay, too? Then killing Batman would be okay, too, if he were to kill Clownhunter. There is no logic to your stance.

[@Malthizar]

It's literally the slippery slope scenario playing out in real-time. He starts this out by saying Batman should kill the Joker and only the Joker. Then he says, kill half/all the rouge's gallery. Then he says kill Clown Hunter because he was killing criminals. Finally, he says, just kill all "sadistic" criminals immediately without trial. Tomorrow, expect him to say that anyone that "commits a crime" should be killed and the day after for him to say to kill anyone that "threatens law & order", and so on.

[@michaelmclaughlin3013]

So Ghostmaker wants to kill a vigilante who kills criminals, but is mad at Bruce for not killing criminals or other vigilantes that kill them like Clownhunter or Ghostmaker himself? Anyone else noticing some contradictions here?

[@brumtownmiller6130]

I think hes mad that clown hunter and batman are doing it for personal reasons. Clown hunter aint stopping all crime, hes targeting joker thugs specifically for revenge killings when not all are murderers.

[@michaelmclaughlin3013]

@@brumtownmiller6130 And Ghostmaker isn’t targeting Batman for personal reasons? There’s a reason he’s in Gotham specifically of all the places in the world.

[@nobodyknowsforsure]

@@michaelmclaughlin3013 it's his ego

[@gregmatic2861]

This makes no sense Clown Killer should be Ghost Maker's Robin. It's so obvious they agree on nearly everything.

[@jcheck1107]

Rob puts up 20 rings- sells out in 5 minutes Rob puts up 20 rings- sells out in 5 minutes Rob puts up 20 rings- sells out in 5 minutes Rob- hey guys I’m putting up 20 rings and let’s see how well these sell

[@juanmilanese]

"I need your help" "I'm about to break up & I'm devastated" "I had to give up my dog" "My best friend is dating my ex" I was reading according to Rob titles and I thought to myself... man, this guy is on a ROUGH SPOT right now! things keep on getting worse! turns out is like a life advice channel... not a daily vlog thing...

[@Malthizar]

lmao. that is hilarious

[@RodJohnsonCincy]

This guy becomes the Leader Magistrate of the Future State and Clown Hunter becomes future state Batman.

[@DOYLIE189]

problem is future state batmans black

[@dionlackey798]

It's luke that's future batman

[@SuperShanko]

I think it’s funny as hell that this kid thought he had a chance at taking down Harley Quinn just because he took down some random goons.

[@johnlawful2272]

Reminds me of sasuke vs itachi in the hotel

[@DotGamesLive]

Ghostmaker is awful for gotham, as is anyone like him. Even a cursory glance at comics history will tell you that. How did Azreal go? Not well. Batman isn't a half-measure. He's the dam holding the flood of disaster back. You ever hear of escalation? Why hasn't punisher been successful? Because as hard as you come at people that twisted and maniacal, the harder they'll push back, and the worse they'll do. Begin killing them, all rules are off the table. You genuinely don't understand what Batman has been saying for literal decades. I mean, hell, through Ghostmakers own arguments, Batman should kill him for what he's done.

[@brumtownmiller6130]

Punisher is successful. Hes taken down many crime families and saved many lives, just that most heroes and police get in his way. Thats like saying there no point having police cuz they just escalate things by arresting criminals. When terrorist attack, we call the army! Things in gotham as already reached peak escalation so, how worse good it get? Bane and joker already tool over the city and many people died. Killing joker would save countless lives theres no way you can justify letting him live and escape custody over and over other than lobotomising him. Some people in gotham deserve to die if they cant permanently be locked away

[@cypher4783]

there are reasons that kings don't hold power anymore, but with out kings and tyrants to nock heads together way back in the day would society even get to this point?

[@jayb235]

The punisher routinely gets let go everytime he gets arrested . One fbi agent admittes the punisher can do things he cant and go places where hes restricted .

[@cypher4783]

@@malus1426 Authority, there are those in this country that have the authority to have you killed according to the law. Punisher has none of that authority. The reason why is when a judge orders your execution they want to make sure that got the right man and didn't waste their time. What make the punisher a problem is that he doesn't use restraint to ask himself "did I do all my homework, or am I just going to have to this all over again." In my mind the gold slandered to be judge jury and executioner and still be just is to understand the criminal completely without a shadow of doubt. But people can barley understand themselves, so who is to say you understand the criminal well enough to say they must die.

[@DotGamesLive]

@@jayb235 and what, if anything, has he got done? There's still a new threat to humanity every month. They're just more brutal, because punisher is brutal.

[@GuessWhatHappened1]

They don't agree with each other but they're civil, and have a respect the fact they're determined to reach a positive goal. Basically they're adults you don't necessarily have to agree with each other but understand they're just trying to make their way in the world.

[@UnexpectedWonder]

Exactly!

[@Qardo]

Ghostmaker is literally the embodiment of all those edgy anti-heroes that came around in the late 80s through the 90s. That only saw problems as nails and they were the hammers. Using violence to end violence. Did we not learn anything from DC's "Kingdom Come"? No? I guess not. Clearly, Kingdom Come is just a throw away story. Just toss it aside. All because fans want edgy and cool heroes who kill all the villains. Even kill those who attempt to do good. Batman maybe flawed but he has more Integrity than Ghostmaker. As Batman would never stoop so low and attempt to kill a child. A very skilled deadly child. But he would never go that low. Ghostmaker is no hero. He is just an edge lord.

[@UnifiedEntity]

Well how do you think Superman fans like myself feel? "Oh hes a boy scout hes booooooring" yet disregard his character and what being Superman entails while dealing with the worst of the worst. While also having all the power in the world to crush them like ants.

[@jagtech490]

@@UnifiedEntity it happens to nearly every hero who has integrity, “oh that boring Thor shoudl be me ore like the bad ass punisher “

[@ninjabreadman22]

Ghostmaker is just strange to me. He should want to train Clownhunter. They have the same philosophy lol. His desire to kill this kid who's apparently exactly the same as him makes him a huge hypocrite. If he was consistent in his philosophy, I wouldn't mind him at all, most of the villains in DC are simply inhuman monsters who blow up whole city blocks with no regard as to the consequences. They don't deserve trials or justice, they're simply threats that need to be taken care of to ensure that society can function healthily. Clownhunter is not that. He's a kid who kills the fucking murderous fanatics who follow the Joker.

[@JohnDoe97637]

@@UnifiedEntity The people who call Superman boring don't know anything about his character. They think he's just: strong, perfect guy who smiles. And that sucks.

[@calebelectric]

Rob needs to watch Superman vs the elite animated movie to shut down his baseless argument.

[@JackWolf1]

Ok, no, not this dumb argument again. We’ve seen the “better hero” stick so many times that it’s pretty much become a cliché by now. We saw it with Gotham and Gotham Girl, we’ve had it with Godspeed, and there’s a not-overly-well-known DC movie called “Superman Vs The Elite” that I’m going to point to where Superman tells everyone exactly why he doesn’t kill, and that concept applies to Batman. Sure, Sup’s more of a boy-scout than Bruce, but I’m really sick of Rob constantly showing his bias against Batman and ignoring the fact that all of the other heroes are also “half-measures” by the standards of measure he’s put forth.

[@ChroniclerofLore]

Been a fan for years man and you still haven't disappointed. Just thought I'd say that. Thanks for the content.

[@MforMovesets]

Ghosthunter and Clownmaker. Clownmaker's thing is turning people into clowns.

[@craighayesii3210]

Clown hunter is like Batman's Quentin Quire😂 in looks and method and entrance lol

[@oldkingcole4354]

Poison ivy came back as a full plant lady at the end of heroes in crisis. She came back as a rose and then Harley and ivy had a Series, I think they got married I don’t know I don’t follow Harley Quinn and poison ivy.

[@pintopplx]

So... you could say that Ghostmaker is a profit murderer ...so in your mind he is better?

[@calebelectric]

Ghost maker is just another mercenary.

[@eagleattack5055]

Rob! Poison ivy is alive, i think what happened was that they broke up when Ivy became the Ivy queen? I think? So shes talking to a plant instead maybe hoping ivy can listen to her idk this just what i think is happening not sure but i am sure ivy is alive during this cause this happens after that joker event and during that event ivy was alive and became the Ivy queen or poison queen idk i forget the name she picked so yeah

[@MrMiloboi]

help me understand isn’t clown killer and ghost maker the exact same character? because they both are willing to kill criminals. so why doesn’t ghost maker just train clown killer?

[@soulblightx9847]

Hmmmmmm, his own robin......I like that.

[@thewindwarrior1765]

I can't wait until GhostMaker tries telling Superman about his ideology. -Hey I know how to stop all crimes. -Does it include killing -... -*Laser Eyes*

[@aflyingmodem]

Would love to debate you on ghost MAKER vs Batman ideology lol because I think he’d make Gotham worst. Also would like to see clown hunter origin.

[@aflyingmodem]

@@malus1426 rob is a sociopath??

[@SuperShanko]

Rob, at this moment in time Pam has resurrected or whatever and saw that Eden was destroyed by Punchline which made Ivy decide to become Queen Ivy and finally go back to a goddamn supervillain.

[@SuperShanko]

It was this and a Joker vs Bane war thing both set 2021.

[@thepriorstone4064]

The changing the lines in the sand argument defeats itself, because the only thing that can bring about change is more change

[@captindo]

I'll take Batman's ethics over a psychopath.

[@jab-io2po]

What if mongul ruled sa’car instead of red king when hulk landed

[@SuperShanko]

Gonna is gonna get a good lesson on what it means to fight. He may win, but he isn’t gonna have an easy bout.

[@chirazi]

I would still favor WWH

[@jab-io2po]

@@chirazi do you know who mongul the elder is?

[@jab-io2po]

@@SuperShanko can you reiterate please

[@nickolaibernar16]

15:06 An argument could be made that the joker does these as crimes of passion cause he gets so furious that Batman has been stepping out with other villains?

Thank you so much for bringing us these videos I really look forward to these 😊

[@enfomy]

Im confused. Ghostmaker is better than batman because he kills criminals, but ghostmaker should kill clownhunter because clownhunter is killing criminals? And batman is a bad hero because he thinks it's better to try to rehabilitate a traumatized juvenile? Lol. On a different note, I think they should have harley show more of her psychology skills. Perhaps they can or will make her turn clownhunter into a proper goodguy (tho the antihero trait is cool too).

[@badbannashuji8633]

Yeah, I'm still confused as to why Ghostmaker wouldn't like Clownhunter.

[@1YoungRoyalty1]

That part is what makes no sense. Ghostmaker wants to kill Clown Hunter for doing the exact thing he’s doing. So, by that logic Ghostmaker is admitting he is a murderer and needs to also be put in a grave.

[@ShadowProject01]

I don’t think ghostmaker originally planned to kill him. When Bruce said that the justice system would enable him I think that’s when he decided he should die.

[@1YoungRoyalty1]

@@ShadowProject01 but the point stands that Clown Hunter is doing the EXACT thing Ghostmaker does, that he wants Batman to do, and that he was planning to do himself anyway. Aside from training and experience, what makes Clown Hunter different from Ghostmaker?

[@ShadowProject01]

@@1YoungRoyalty1 don’t misunderstand, I’m not on Ghostmaker’s side here. In fact I’m almost certain that killing villains to make the city “safer” would have the opposite effect. That particular villain may not hurt anyone ever again, but what about the next one, and the one after that? There will ALWAYS be a next one and it will no longer be about robbing banks or running Gotham, but about who can kill the Batman and they will destroy the city to do it.

[@jchampagne2]

Wait, why does GHOST MAKER have beef with Clown Hunter killing Joker's gang? Isn't that kind of in line with his own philosophy? He should be making him his own Robin, shouldn't he? Or is he the only one who gets to play judge, jury, and executioner?

[@wedotheweedle3747]

He's got beef with ClownHunter because clown hunter is killing based of off vengeance and his feelings. The only people clownhunter has killed is joker gang members. While GhostMaker is killing gang members, rapist and etc. While also not killing some of them too because, he is doing all of it based on what is RIGHT(in his opinion) and not putting his feelings in the way (as batman does sometimes) and it technically does and doesn't go against his code because he's killing a serial killer (in his eyes) the boy could have gone a different route but no. He dressed up supe instead with that being said. GhostMaker is saying batman sucks because he isnt killing or stopping situations and etc before it happens or let is happens, cause if batman was a good role model for the city like he claims to be or the city does, ClownHunter could have arrested the gang members. Instead he became another killer, In the City full of killers. He's chosen to become part of the tainted city instead of redeeming it. (In the Ghost Maker eyes) Batmans role for the city could be bigger and more of a model to those. But instead the city turns it eyes agaisnt batman. And it was proven in the joker war.

[@M4gl4d]

You know, the one thing I got out of this video is that cassie is still around. Is she? I really liked her as batgirl

[@M4gl4d]

@BatCatDickBabsJayRedTimSteph CassDukeDamiKate Oh thanks God. Which titles can I read that she's in as batgirl? When did she became batgirl again?

[@M4gl4d]

@BatCatDickBabsJayRedTimSteph CassDukeDamiKate Thanks. Im sorry about Ivy, sounds like character growth down the drain.

[@M4gl4d]

@BatCatDickBabsJayRedTimSteph CassDukeDamiKate thanks

[@ethangiesbrecht4865]

I really like this story so far and I see your point about Batman being a half measure, but I still side with Batman over Ghost-Maker. I agree that some people deserve the death penalty for their actions, but that’s for the courts to decide, not vigilantes. You could say that the courts in Gotham are totally corrupt, and you would probably be right to a degree; but it’s up to the people to elect officials who fight for justice in their own way, in the courtrooms and in their neighbourhoods rather than donning a cloak and cowl and beating the tar out of some criminals. I think it would be very interesting to get a story where it’s up to the people to make Gotham better instead of Batman and his rogues. Or maybe Bruce Wayne can make a bigger difference than Batman can in the lives of the people he protects. If the citizens of Gotham want to make their city a better place, it’s up to them. If they like Gotham the way it is, maybe it’s time for Batman to go to a city that actually appreciates what he does.

[@demi-fiendoftime3825]

Excatly batman is not Judge Dread, he is not judge jury and executioner he is just the guy who gives the criminals to the said judge jury and executioner aka the people. If he just takes the villians out and not the people they wont care and some guy will take the dead criminal place.

[@demi-fiendoftime3825]

@@malus1426 That and it's a huge waste of money. It's cheeper to leave someome to rot in a hole then it is to kill them curently because we insist we are better than the other nations that have a death sentence by useing Lethal Injections only because it's more "humane". Klling is killing doesnt matter if you use some drugs to do it or put a bullet in someones head your just wasteing a budget similar to a holywood blockbuster to kill someone and that is something the joker would laugh his ass off about.

[@ethangiesbrecht4865]

@@malus1426 I would respectfully disagree. Vengeance has been described as “wild justice”. Justice that goes too far is not justice at all. There’s a reason why Lady Justice is depicted as blind; true justice shows no partiality and executes judgement without being emotionally invested, for or against the perpetrator. I believe that people like the Joker, whether fictional or real, deserve a fair trial and, if there is more than sufficient evidence that they are guilty, be executed. This form of judgement must be used extremely carefully and only in extreme circumstances, but I believe it should be used.

[@ethangiesbrecht4865]

@@malus1426 That is a disgusting injustice, but that has to do with the jurors showing partiality and not a reason to disallow executions in general. I wholeheartedly believe that woman should be executed for what she has done and I think most people would agree that it would be just to do so.

[@Rice_Cassidy]

As we all have heard before from the man himself. If Rob had powers, he would absolutely be a villain. So don't be surprised that his philosophies skew that way under the guise of philosophical mastery.

[@K2kyd]

Ghostmaker wants to kill Clown hunter for killing bad guys whilst killing bad guys, haha okay.

[@Marmaduke_Jones]

Ghostmaker is a completely different kind of disrespectful to come to Gotham and do Batman's job around him in Prada Technical Fabric Sneakers

[@chealoutman5]

Rob, on behalf of the whole entire world, WE MISS YOU TOO, stay you man

[@Hoopergames]

BEYOND OMEGA LEVEL : RESURRECTION MAN

[@EtotheFnD]

We do this for Aaron Wilder

[@kcollier2192]

This reminds me of the early relationship between Magneto and Professor Xavier. Considering your opinions on Ghostmaker, what's your view on The Punisher- is he effective or just deranged?

[@tjtension3533]

I don't think ghostmaker should have an origin just cuz his name is ghostmaker

[@navizeuqsav7580]

Yo Rob do you happen to have an audio file of all your videos would be great to listen to while I work making deliveries

[@luigistatic1575]

There are so many options other than killing the villains: Indigo rings Shrink ray/ the big house from marvel Suicide squad Satellite prison like watchtower Lasso of truth Killing is such a lazy answer

[@jab-io2po]

Omega/Beyond omega level: Brainiac (DC) Beyond omega level: The empty hand (DC) Beyond omega level: Superman Prime One million Beyond omega level: Barbatos (DC) Beyond omega level: Imperiax (DC) Beyond omega level: Superman prime (Amped version)

[@l0rd_of_hollows681]

lol how is there no braniac

[@jab-io2po]

@@l0rd_of_hollows681 like as I’m not omega/beyond omega level vid yet I agree He’s the collector of worlds Minimum omega level and cmon now he’s beyond that Imo he’s the smartest being in the universe (DC) He’s put beatings on supes And we’ll is the collector of worlds he’s a beast I wish there was a omega level Beyond omega Way beyond omega We NEED 3 categories

[@ThaRealinNv777]

Still missing one. ...

[@certifiedsliim]

For all this praise you give to Ghost Maker what makes him different in his methods and ideology than Clown Hunter or RedHood. They all have the same exact goals with the same exact method. Kill the criminals and they’re won’t be repeating offenders. Ghost maker is just an immature self righteous prick who doesn’t want people doing the EXACT same thing he’s doing bc he fancies himself better. He may be more experienced in combat but other than that small caveat which doesn’t excuse his methods or actions, what’s the difference Rob? Also how can Ghostmaker call himself a crime fighter if killing people is a crime, regardless of circumstance. Under law these criminals have right to due process which ghostmaker isn’t allowing thus making him a murderer and a criminal himself. THATS why Gotham will never succeed under Ghostmaker. He wants the cake and to eat it too and we all know how that saying goes. Killing the criminals is the only thing that’s basically keeping Batman from being a full blown criminal himself. You can’t be what you’re fighting against and say “nu uh but not me” it doesn’t work like that

[@brumtownmiller6130]

Thats true but he did get some arrested but people like joker REPEATEDLY escapes. You telling me joker killing hundreds of people doesnt deserve to die? By your logic batman should hand himself over to the police cuz he breaks many laws every time he goes out to fight crime! Police kill in the line of duty, soldiers too! Any criminal that kills people and escapes and repeat offends isnt gonna change, especially joker so they deserve death. For me its 3 strikes and your out mate

[@certifiedsliim]

@@brumtownmiller6130 the joker is a one off and I agree with Jason when it comes to the joker. But the rest of Batman’s rogues gallery are a completely different story. But in the same vain when you look at every super hero’s rogue gallery they’re all repeat offenders whether it be grodd, Luthor, sinestro, Circe etc. Joker is the worst of the worst tho and SHOULD be put down as compared to the rest of them. But my main argument is Ghostmaker is no different from Redhood or Clownhunter. He just doesn’t want others to do what he’s doing bc he has a superiority complex and that’s how villainy starts. Ghostmaker is a full blown villain compared to Batman. Again, Batman not killing his rogues is the ONLY thing keeping him from being considered a villain himself.

[@Malthizar]

Yeah, that's literally what the comic is saying. I think Robb is going to be in for a rude awakening. The author was proving that point both, with the Batman pulling the reverse uno card on Ghostmaker, as well as Clownhunter and Harley's conversation. Both points were showing that having a black and white "you're bad so you die" view is largely juvenile and lacks strong nuance. The point of Ghostmaker going "ha, but what about Clownhunter? He's scum that should die" was MEANT to point out that _"wait a minute, don't they have the same ideology?"_ meaning that Ghostmaker (and Robb) are essentially repudiating their *own* views. It's actually really brilliant what's happening and much better storytelling than the Azrael or the Red Hood renditions.

[@certifiedsliim]

@@Malthizar I very much agree with your points and Ghostmaker is just Redhood at his extreme IMO but even Redhood had some grey area. If you cant eliminate the crime then just control it to mitigate the damage it would do to the city. Ghostmaker gets a lot of hype tho for being more formidable in combat than Bruce and his outfit is soooo freaking dope which is why I think a lot of people have become so enamored with him. He been beating the bat for decades and looks dope while doing it. Redhood and Azreal only gave him a good fight. But if Jason studied under the tutelage of Ghostmaker or his teachers I’m sure he’s be just as capable of not more than Bruce 🤷🏻‍♂️ But I’m also biased cuz Redhood is my favorite DC character lol

[@johnlawful2272]

Accept clown hunter was gonna get innocents involved shooting harleys apartment with missiles

[@funnylittlenegro]

Another great video

[@evanb1470]

The RICO act was enacted in 1962. Prohibition was 1920 to 1933.

[@generalobiwankenobi5890]

It would be great if you covered that clown hunter origin issue.😀😀

[@linkman0596]

2 things rob is missing. First off, batman is totally seeing himself in clown killer, I think he's considering trying to reign him in, possibly in a new Robin role, not saying it would actually happen, but possibly batman's intent. Second, the people clown killer was going after were joker thugs right? The kind of people rob is saying batman should just kill anyways, but now he's celebrating ghost killer wanting to kill him? That's a bigger thing than the "line in the sand" argument, if you're willing to kill criminals like that, then you're apparently just as much a criminal as the guys you're killing, at least according to the next guy coming into town wanting to kill criminals.

[@bubbles784]

Now I'm imagining that meme with that group of people that are shooting each other in the back with the caption "Vigilante kills Criminals making them a Criminal" So it would be "Criminal"

[@brumtownmiller6130]

Rob never said he wanted ghost maker to kill clown hunter, hes just saying batman seems like he picks and chooses who can kill and not pay for it and who cnt. If killing is wrong, all killing is wrong but todd and clown hunter aint being punished just told to stop! Isnt that hypocritical of batman?

[@cancerconnoisseur]

Bruh I hope Ghostmaker sticks around. He'd be a really interesting addition, either to the Family or the rogues gallery

[@dantone6738]

Ghost Maker strikes me as a more focused Jason Todd...higher skill set with slightly more discipline and physical prowess!!!!! I'M DIGGIN THIS!!!!

[@johnlawful2272]

Yeh cause technically Jason can't beat night wing

[@threex0xthree]

Random thought: how can Ghostmaker really see thru this half face mask?

[@johnpatchen1511]

But Rob it’s not Batman’s place to decide who lives or dies and if the people of Gotham are really living in that bad of a place why don’t they act and change things themselves?

[@blingsing5383]

Rob thinks he could be an impartial judge on who lives and dies so Batman should be able to

[@michaelmelton654]

But then who does because the penal system does nothing there has to be a line drawn somewhere that says your right have been stripped at this point right I mean idk I'm kinda somebody who believes that killing the joker or anyone who you know will kill many more people in the future if it saves all of those lives is totally worth it

[@blingsing5383]

@@michaelmelton654 If someones rights can be taken away they never really had them to begin with Hypothetically if I deserve to die for killing 10 people does the next guy deserve to die for killing 8? What about 7? Does who gets killed matter? The people of Gotham clearly were not crying out for legally enforced executions. So why should some random have the authority to kill based on his beliefs (the worst kinds of killers are the ones who think they are helping as they never run out of targets) What if you killed me then found out I was innocent? you are now a murderer aswell Its easy to say joker should die but what about the 50th guy down the line Sorry I am very blazed right now

[@TheOldScoola]

You should make variations of Robcorp rings like the Classic one that was rounded or maybe a fully silver one or a fools gold one

[@maniacalprism5465]

Can't wait to see the next video

[@jermainekngdom3154]

Poison ivy is a villian again after her ressurection

[@TheMiddlechild79]

At the end of the day this is batman vs moon knight(costume wise)

[@bezeej]

I always learn something new every video of yours i watch 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@arcanefury3666]

I think Ivy is alive but they broke up because Harley thought a clone of Ivy was Ivy and went on some kind of road trip with it.

[@MustangblueNYC]

SO Ghostmaker is DC's Moon Knight . . . just like Moon Knight is Marvel's Batman . . . . .

[@GangstaStan010]

With a mix of Daredevil lol

[@Aristocratic13]

Hell no im nothing like Batman or Ghost Freak

[@Malthizar]

_"Like criminals are just _*_executed_*_ , right? Like, they're just killed. _*_Not, not like baseline drug-dealing crimainals_*_ , but like sadistic ones..."_ Bruh, how can you say that with a straight face and not legitimately realize you are falling into the slippery slope mindset? When you were first talking about how Batman was a "half-measure", you literally started with "just kill the Joker". Now it's "execute 'sadistic' criminals". Even your argument for getting rid of Clownhunter shows just how cannibalistic and innately destructive "killing villains" is as an ideology. Clownhunter has your EXACT view. Not, "kind of", not "pretty much". You literally equated him to OG Jason Todd Red Hood. The people he's murdering aren't innocent victims. They were, a few episodes ago mind you, insane people reveling in evil behavior under the Joker's rule. Your own words were that Clownhunter was a real man doing what real men needed to do when faced with evil and violence. Now a few episodes later, you're treating that same guy as if he was some deranged serial killer that needs to be put down. Bruh, I think you're legitimately becoming a supervillain.

[@nobodyknowsforsure]

The Rob Core gonna have a parallax moment or something? lol

[@jaggedvisions]

Bruh fr

[@eggzisstenshulldredd1626]

Was gonna finish Joker War/Punchline before this, but I saw this title and just HAD to see the next part in Rob’s destruction of Batman.

[@prince_nocturne]

1: Ivy is alive again, she was brought back by the Green when a rose was planted and shocked by Wally. 2: We have seen something like this before, with the 'I'll do better' and it makes it better. Batman: White Knight basically did that.

[@noaboahQR]

Thanks in large part to dark knights metal/death metal, I have just become completely burnt out of batman. I feel like dc has just flooded the market with batman related things and Im so over it

[@aaronwilder2775]

Character Explained/Beyond Omega Level: Resurrection Man

[@tylersimon2178]

Good luck bud!!! I'm about to become a patreon just to shout your name out so rob can see it lol

[@aaronwilder2775]

@@tylersimon2178 Woah, thanks :)

[@Hoopergames]

I got you bro i just posted it there

[@jacobbornowsky4013]

Keep it going

[@EtotheFnD]

We do this for Aaron Wilder

[@comicdevil1964]

Poison Ivy is still alive. I think there’s a short story of what she was doing during Joker War. And Harley was talking to the plant because with Ivy’s powers, they can be used for communication.

[@SuperShanko]

Rob, The Joker Warzone issue shows what happens to Ivy and Joker. Check it out.

[@jab1]

I would love Harley to take clownhunter in as a weird twisted Robin who still does good but in a weird way.

[@UnifiedEntity]

" I think hes a better Batman than Batman" Now normally im not one to defend Batman, but Ghost Maker is just another emotionless bastard who thinks with "his head" not willingly to go so far as to be human while trying to protect the things he wants to protect/guard or whatever. A superiority complex because hes SOOOOO detached. Gotham...is chaotic, filled with people who dont give two shits about the other people besides themselves. How is going in like a cold machine going to make that better? And hes going after a kid whose killing affiliates to Joker for fucks sake. When he HIMSELF is just going around killing other crime affiliates. How does that make him better? He was onto something with exposing judges, and criminals without a "cute costume" (I will give him that) but jesus he acts like he just took out the Joker, Bane, The Riddler etc.....like the MAIN BIG Threats to Gotham.

[@Infamous41]

Dang give him a chance

[@UnifiedEntity]

@@Infamous41 I would but we had this same song and dance with Jason. Jason had a point but again, he wasnt taking out Bane, Court of Owls, Riddler, Two face, Poison Ivy, Mr Freeze. He was just killing no named thugs who at the end of the day werent he big source of Gothams problems that brought immediate results. From what ive come to understand, violence to the extent of killing in Gotham...will just bring in more violence. With the way Batman has operated, hes converted people to the good side. Clayface and Harley Quinn. And they have done alot of good. Took some time but look where we are? Ghost Maker is looking for NO chance of that.

[@UnifiedEntity]

@Gabriel Vinícius do Nascimento And I agree. Can you imagine the chaos that would ensue of Red Hood and Ghost Maker fought in Gotham? Im sure alot of people would be killed. That, or they would waste time trying to kill each other instead of stopping actual crime. They may kill each other, or not but now what if they incapacitate one another where Gotham has no defender. What then?

[@agrey832]

I like the interaction between these two, and Ghost Maker is a *great* name for a vigilante!! I hope to see more of him in the future!! Great story btw 👌🏾

[@akidajasper6545]

My guy Rob, great work! How come your not covering the Spider Man story arc? It’s epic