Delta Force Game Director Addresses SBMM & Anti-Cheat Concerns + New Balance Update

[@stevenzwiesler5104]

why is it so hard for devs to impliment ping based matchmaking with team balancing? team balancing and SBMM are 2 completely different things and team balancing is far better for these larger 32v32 games.

[@PerciusLive]

Imo team balancing should matter more than sbmm in these large scale games. Sbmm ruins the playerbase while team balancing makes it so that you get a diverse spread of skill across both teams evenly and allows for better experience across the board

[@andreiserde9441]

They definitely have some sort of team balancing, otherwise the queues would be crazy long. Look, if I open CS2 and queue up for a ranked game, queue will be somewhere between 5 and 10 minutes. And that's a 5v5 game. With 1.5 million concurrent players peak every day. There's no way Delta Force has a strict SBMM.

[@maxschneller5913]

​@andreiserde9441 don't compare it to like 6v6 or small-scale modes/games. Their SBMM feels almost the same as cod's SBMM in Ground War if not stricter tbh

[@andreiserde9441]

@@maxschneller5913 Well to be honest, I don't play the Warfare mode, just the Extraction which is 3v3v3v3v3v3 (6 teams I think). I also never played COD or BF. SO I COULDN'T CARE LESS ABOUT YOUR MODE TROLOLOLO

[@cinemapigeon4898]

COD for most of its life has had this aspect done fairly well. You would be put into persistent lobbies with team rebalancing based on most recent performance. You formed friendships, rivalries, everything in between. COD has lost that and a good chunk of its "soul". Another thing COD did well which other games can do in their own ways is COD has super noob friendly game design, be it overpowered quick TTK guns, killstreaks, perks, maps with obvious camping spots, etc... many tools to allow worse players to do better and or have more fun than they otherwise would in say a higher skill ceiling game. In a game like battlefield, I think that extends to all the sorts of playstyles, objectives, vehicles, etc... that are supported. You can find something you're good at, maybe you can't win any up close gun fights but with great patience you can have high KD games sniping across the map.

[@GirthBrooks94]

If they would’ve used regular soldiers from Black Hawk Down without abilities, they would’ve nailed it 110%

[@garf1978]

Definitely 💯% 🎉🎉🎉

[@russ1185]

Agree. Even in operation mode... no need for it.

[@JewelieJewelzRN]

Exactly

[@jesseponce696]

They could have made operators be like heros from battlefront where you have to get points and redeem them in match to play the operators. The redeem points system is already in the game for calling in artillery and vehicles. They could have done two factions with their own heroes. One is GTI and the other is like idk Nod (brotherhood of Nod lol). With their own faction colors and uniforms. It would make operators stand out more too

[@ryanhamrick8426]

Abilities are fine, stop whining and go play COD

[@Simonb1471]

SBMM means boring gameplay loop

[@KingKeno777]

Yep every game is the same

[@X-SunSlayer-X]

developers trying to misinform the playerbase regarding SBMM?.... I am shocketh to my very core... Unheard of even....

[@Abdi_Akhmet]

The most insane part, some of the players want the sbmm to stay in the game

[@Aqia-mq9ip]

​@@Abdi_AkhmetIt's not just 'some', it's a lot (which is partly why SBMM will never be removed from this game)

[@tirushone6446]

you would think some of these devs would learn something from Apex Legends, which is dieing because of it's terrible matchmaking.

[@Abdi_Akhmet]

@@Aqia-mq9ip its so bad, reason why I delete the game

[@daegnaxqelil2733]

they hazven't underytood they should balance it?

[@GrimPhase]

So basically their comment on SBMM confirms why most people hate it. Protect the new players / not as skilled players and make the better players sweat for eternity.....

[@Sgttv]

No. As I commented already: I think regarding SBMM we are told their goal after feedback consideration and if they manage to implement it correctly for the full release it is a straight W no questions asked.

[@andreiserde9441]

SBMM makes total sense. You need some sort of bracketing. Otherwise it's a shit fest. I seriously don't understand why people want to have random matchmaking. They said it's not a 50% winrate type of SBMM, so that's already a W. If I go in a raid with a 600k gear and I shit on people with green vests and grey ammo, it's not fun for anybody.

[@taetrrtot6205]

SBMM sucks for everyone not just sweats

[@soap07230]

Buddy it's just for new players to learn the game after that they're with everyone else and there's no SBMM the way you think it is (like cod)

[@tacticalxfatman868]

@@Sgttv sbmm only in ranked. If not don’t bother playing it. It’s a simple concept. Delta force is dead on arrival for me. Sad face I’m not playing sweaty games. I’ll play fun games tho..

[@Joolius.]

SBMM should only be effective until you hit a certain level. Once passed that you should be put into a lobby with everyone else without skill brackets.

[@rzrrox4202]

Exactly this☝️ then just team balancing and it's perfect.

[@mmaa-rp7mn]

@@rzrrox4202 how are you gonna team balancing if theres no sbmm? team balancing occur because they have the skill data of the player or MMR, so they can adjust it to make the match balance. if theres no sbmm then theres no team balancing bro. you can have 1 broken man gets 100 kills, and then the others are just 10 kills or maybe even lower

[@Tipsyfr]

yeah no its filled wit cheaters

[@ridwannoor6049]

​@@mmaa-rp7mn People like you don't even know how sbmm works and come to argue about it.

[@maxschneller5913]

​@@mmaa-rp7mnthat's not what sbmm does. Besides it's not protecting anyone. If I, being a good player, just start playing with not-so-good guns and try to chill, I will get my ass kicked in my sbmm lobbies and I will be put into lobbies with shitters like you to dominate until I'm back getting demolished and then the cycle repeats. It's about faking your experience so you spend more time playing and spend more 💰

[@JakobTorri]

I work full time, I want to have fun in a battlefield-like sandbox when I come home. Including sbmm into a sandbox ruins the entire experience and I have to CONSTANTLY sweat my dick off to even compete. It's horrible and will destroy the game. They have to reconsider this.

[@TheAlphaOmegaX3]

That's why I was fine with including some bots in the game. Even better with realistic AI and names to go along with it. Couple my buddies just aren't great at fps pvp games and they wouldn't know the wiser, yet, they would be having fun.

[@xiaodai125]

i think sbmm are give better match experience on the china server... whenever i turn off ranking mode, i feel like every player i meet was a pro

[@mmaa-rp7mn]

if you want to have fun, just dont sweat if the others are better than you, because they are having fun bro. and then when its your turn destroying and you are having fun, the others will say the same thing as you, they just want to have fun. and the loop goes. its like Good player destroying lower skill player, then the lower skill player said they dont want to sweat, they want to have fun. and then that lower skill player finally destroying the more lower skill player and they are having fun, then the more lower skill player said the same thing.

[@StunnyFPV]

Non ranked players get put in with unranked players. People were queue sniping a streamer while he was in ranked and they were unranked, and they managed to get in his lobby.

[@LukeValentino]

Bro, if you are having a hard time with sbmm, you are going to be completely farmed without it.

[@msum23]

'want to learn' THAT'S WHAT THE BOT MODE IS FOR LOL

[@DukeSan27]

politely saying git gud

[@vac59]

No one willingly wants to ride the short buss 😅 Players will just select the regular lobby.

[@blikthepro972]

Nobody likes playing against bots

[@avipinhasov302]

The SBMM answer was alot of bullcrap. Any game with the slightest amount of SBMM in CAUSUAL MODE is a 0/10 for me. Keep it in ranked. New players will still be "protected" if ranked is selected by default for them until a certian level.

[@jordanmackay6746]

I hate sbmm but a little sbmm is required and has been used since call of duty 4. Its hilarous that people think it was just invented a couple of years ago. Imo there should be a protected bracket for really bad players (less than .60 kd) and then a free for all for everybody else.

[@swabbie2066]

The new player sbmm will make more people stay with the game which I think is fine as long as it works but the rest is pretty stupid should just find 64 people to play outside of that

[@avipinhasov302]

@@jordanmackay6746 Orrrr Maybe just Or ... Lets have a simple fuc*ing server browser ?! This game suppose to mimik BF right ? The BF games up until 2042 has a server browser and it worked perfectly. Also, allowing for community servers wirh Human admins is a great solution for cheaters, and allows players to pick maps more easily. I don't mind have some noob-friendly servers for people/partied with a k/d of less than 0.5 .... But everyone else should just play regulary.

[@soap07230]

Then don't play the game? The new player SBMM is literally for a few matches like an extended tutorial after that there is no SBMM 😂😂

[@avipinhasov302]

@@soap07230 bullshit its not true and it was confirmed .... There are infact multiple lobby bracket. Every person that is pro SBMM ( in casual mode ) is litrally braindead and doesn't understand the meaning of a 64 player multiplayer game. BF games had a server browser for decades, and never in my life i've seen the issue of "i am a bad player and i get rekt all the time help me!!! ..."

[@Lead_Magnet_old]

Why do you need protection for beginners when you provided a AI Bot only mode? Go learn there.

[@korcommander]

Get good in a fighting game against AI on the hardest difficulty, and then fight actual players. It's not even close to what even bad players can do.

[@imsleazy8631]

You clearly haven't played call of duty bots on veteran ​@korcommander

[@Smyth4k]

Yeah you’re special up top huh

[@djnorth2020]

You can learn the basic mechanics against bots, shooting moving driving vehicles and capturing objectives. But that's not the same as playing against human players, not even close. Players could be placed on a bell curve, pick the middle with most players and adjust to their need to draw in the most revenue. This would suck for anyone half decent. Is it fair to let newbies have easier matches so they don't get frustrated immediately thinking the game is bad (not them) versus putting higher skill players only against other high skill players? We didn't really have team balancing in early fps days. Now developers need to cater to both or choose one.

[@doooodeh]

@@korcommander That comparison doesn't make sense two completly different genres. In fighters you wont learn framedata,spacing,how to play neutral basically even fundies against input reading AI lol. Theres a reason why any good player will tell you to stay away from AI based modes and just lab or play ranked since thats how it should work in all games - you're a newbie go play ranked against other low ELO/MMR players to learn the game instead of being protected in all public matches all the time so you will mash and wont even learn basic fundies after 300 hours. In FPS game you will learn against AI a lot like positioning,range of engagements with weapons,common angles/general map layout and many more stuff that will help you against real players. Factor of game being team based is also a massive difference by default too since in most fg's even in tag titles its still 1v1 playerwise while in Delta Force you cant control what ur team does so you will also learn solo coordinating and routing through maps without relying on your team of bots(that includes real people).

[@maxschneller5913]

Nah, the guy is straight-up lying about SBMM. I'm already back on bf2042, it's a night and day difference. DF's SBMM is thicker than cod's ground war SBMM, trust me on this

[@ArchieGamez]

You rather play trash bruh, weak

[@Ozzmosis_Inc]

@@ArchieGamez Say what you want about 2042 but the fact is it remains organic gameplay. DF is literally programmed to make every single fking round you play the exact same.

[@maxschneller5913]

​@@ArchieGamezI'd rather play what I like. DF aside from SBMM is a clunkier copy-paste version of Bf2042

[@S.H.N.80s]

​@maxschneller5913 I'd rather give new developers a chance, BF is trash for a decade now, it's to far removed from it's core fan base. Release unfinished products for 70 bucks is a crime, not gonna put more money into their direction. COD is also trash, it's a bugfest every release , bugs and maps are still the same, yeah they fix it after a while and after you allmost downloaded another game and deleted another game for it you can play. Weapon balance is absolute trash. 3-4 weapons are used every season, if you try other weapons in warzone you can't compete. DF is a nice change for a crossplay free fps, played this game for 3 days, no bucks no pay wall and more.

[@Lornext]

I was about to play it a bit tonight... But hearing the Director just lie through his teeth about SBMM just makes me want to uninstall, got better use for that space on my SSD.

[@kypexYBA]

fax

[@MrAckers75]

Got rid after day one

[@az-rule84]

Chinese gaming developers is gonna make big influence in gaming market. Right now i know there r 2 free games by Chinese developer that is making a big hit in steam namely Once Human and Delta force. If this trend keep going, this will make chinese free games with quality dominating the market. Which is healthy for competitions and great for gamers

[@ilyakusenco8151]

Marvel game is crushing hero shooter charts, Wukong is goty action RPG, and Genshin is out there too. Chinese games are already big, and they’ll probably only grow.

[@OverDose775]

They made great games and non stop twitching and communicate with the players. I come from Escape from Tarkov and i have so much fun seeing all good stuff in Delta force. Yeah i miss the realism but bro they made excellent game. That's fantastic work. And the anti cheat system is amazing. Just play and enjoy the game bro and give respect for this team.

[@ArchieGamez]

Marvel Rivals yea, western companies gotta step up

[@zgaminggallery9910]

the point of making free/low cost games with excessive advertisment?

[@LightTrack-]

Pretending SBMM is "nothing too crazy" is hard to believe when in my first game i got something like ~ 40kills and in the next one i couldn't get 5 kills in 10 minutes because i had the sweatiest CoD players against me on that trench map. I got absolutely destroyed.

[@maximus7619]

Facts

[@JieJunS]

Most likely 90% of the players that enjoy the game don't put up any review, including people who use the official launcher. So, once again the Steam review section probably just fill with hater comment. I was just surprised with how well the game is optimize.

[@zgaminggallery9910]

is this why games released by big publishers never get a negative review period even on their worst updates? 1 honest bad review is countered with 5 spam positive reviews on the same date. "overall/recent steam reviews" sections are always manipulated.

[@zzznardszzz4715]

Delta Force game director lies through his teeth with no shame. Got it, thanks

[@jordanmackay6746]

No he's not.. It doesnt have strict sbmm like cod. It has a 2 tier bracket with the majority of players in one of them. SBMM cant even exist on 64 player maps with 100k players split across two modes. There would be long ass loading times per match and latency would suffer. I absolutely hate strict sbmm but people saying this has it.. are 100% players trying to justify why they suck.

[@korcommander]

You literally can't run strict cod like sbmm with 64 players, there's not enough people on earth to make that work. Don't get me wrong, the whiplash from those new lobbies is a hell, but it simply means you're playing the actual game, and should get good at that.

[@zzznardszzz4715]

2 tiers eh? So it was the other dev that spoke of multiple tiers that was lying? It’s Tencent, they’re all lying scumbags. Since some are gullible enough to believe them, they will keep lying.

[@korcommander]

@@zzznardszzz4715 Bruh, all developers are lying scumbags. Being Chinese doesn't make it any worse or better. It's like you can't accept that you might be bad at a game. You have to do that to improve.

[@Bammersax]

Part of me worries that ea will see this and think oh yes this is what bf players want and do stuff from this game but in reality the only reason I think this game works is because it’s not battlefield and there is no expectation

[@tacobandit1926]

Yeah if Battlefield adds SBMM. Might as well sell the IP and close up shop. I get that most BF players are bad. But in reality BF players play Battlefield for one reason. Thats random fun combined arms shooting game. NOT COD. As a 1.8-2.3KD BF player myself it WILL kill Battlefield for good. Also if people NEED sbmm then maybe they should go play Minecraft or farming sim. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@kralexprofill4571]

18:36 A localization error?? Why are there "ranks" like bronze, platinum and so on with coresponding "rank indicators" then?

[@PerciusLive]

Rewards i guess. Not great rewards but they're there

[@thehumus8688]

The Helicopter is sluggish, which I need to set sensitivity in game to max with 4000 DPI on my mouse, just to get it handle better The Ground vehicle is........stuck, stuck on bush, stuck on tree stump, stuck on sandbag, stuck..... everywhere

[@Eradicationist]

i think ricky sbmm explanation is more accurate because shadow doesn't know the full goings on of all the people under him

[@JewelieJewelzRN]

I have a question. When I try and switch to full screen exclusive it makes the game super small on my monitor. Then I have to force close and restart and it then reverts back to full screen borderless. How do I fix that?

[@56beastyboy]

I can confirm that once you get into the higher ranks you can lose rank points. I had a match where i joined in progress and maybe got like 10 kills before it ended. My team won. I still lost rank points from it tho lol. It makes zero sense why

[@sinachilles9086]

They didn’t mention anything about the weapon distance drop off?

[@halrichard1969]

Regarding SBMM, you have UNranked in the begining then you go through Military ranks as you progress. There seems to be a skill threshold as you rank up. What I have experienced is that when you make Lieutenant Rank, there is another threshold jump. I was above average until I made Lieutenant....Now I am ranking slightly below average. Its a noticeable difficulty level for me. So yes the skill challenge seems to remain constant .

[@SonuGames]

I'm wondering if it's possible to choose the server I play on. I'm stuck with a 200 ping, which is unplayable.

[@blikthepro972]

Wording matters. The dev is describing the sbmm shown in the pre-mw19 cod games, more known as a protective bracket. Had he called it that, people wouldnt complain. Simply saying sbmm makes some people see red

[@CPU_Rewrite]

If I had to guess on why "ranked mode" is a toggle and not just baked into progression, its because of the extraction mode. This same button is in another chinese extraction shooter Arena Breakout Infinite and it does exactly the same thing as in this game, gives you a ranking and progression based on pwrformance but youre still in the same matchmaking que as everyone else. The reason for doing so is quite simple, you're not always going to be rocking your best gear in extraction, so the button is there if you wanna say just run in naked and try to go zero to hero or just knock out a couple of mission. As for why it is in warfare mode, I guess its there to turn off if you wanna level a new weapon or try a new operator.

[@GrainOnTheGo]

I get people being disappointed about anti-cheat but the double standard on people being against kernel level when literally it is industry standard and growing in popularity.

[@brnhe]

im working my way to Marshal... and yeah you can indeed lose points there. and as for why it can be toggle on and off.... i think it is because it letterboard ranks players on the season and record their statistic such as points/min, kills, win rate etc... and since new seasons will come with new map, weapons, operators and game modes, if you really care about your stats/rank, you can disable and do some tests/learning runs.

[@4400seriesFAN]

To the players complaining about SBMM: People were also complaining about the Lag Compensation in CoD games. But we all remember how much they were complaining about the original Modern Warfare game which didn't have any of that. Remember how people were complaining they didn't know where to shoot when the enemy was moving side to side? Yeah, I remember. Stop complaining for stupid things.

[@alexrajczyk2450]

Heyy Ghost do you know if character customisation will be in the game at somepoint? I just find it strange that we can customise our weapons in any way we like, yet our characters remain the same in multiplayer matches and have no customisation features.

[@recklesscanadian]

Im a really good battlefield player, in any battlefield game I play I usually have a 3-4kd. This game plays exactly like battlefield. The skill levels and lobbies Im getting into are something else. Id say realistically 75% of the lobby are running meta builds and sweaty movements. The orher 25% sniping and rocket spam.

[@ShadyMike]

The SBMM part was a lie, I was level 9 and had a 40 kill game the next 2 matches I was killed by a guy with an MP5 (unlocks at lvl 25) and the AWM (unlocks at lvl 35) and started the game ZERO AND NINE, so that is complete bullcrap. I’m a 3.9 KD player in COD and my KD in BF 2042 was over a 2 so I don’t want to hear that, I know I’m a good player.

[@spaycee9082]

You can unlock the weapons in operations mode 😂

[@neopolitan_.7438]

You unlock an mp5 quest at like lvl 14....

[@ShadyMike]

@@spaycee9082 didn’t know that, I don’t play the mode however my point and other good players point about the SBMM still stand.

[@ShadyMike]

@@neopolitan_.7438 I don’t play operations so I did not know that, but my point about my experience with SBMM still stands.

[@PerciusLive]

Lvl =/= skill. The level is just progression and the game uses your points per game, and where/how the points were obtained as a metric to evaluate your position. If anything, the skill ranking is more aligned with the ranks you get (private, corporal, sgt, lieutenant, etc) instead of your progression.

[@KeyJOSH8]

I'm pretty sure the "ranked" mode is more than just a progression system, since you can actually rank down if you perform badly. One of the main criticisms I've heard of sbmm for years is that it hides your skill progression, and you can't tell when you're getting better. This system seems to be trying to address that.

[@mikek8632]

The UI is just fine, It's nice to have it all separated and it's easy enough to claim everything and look through the different stuff for those of us who like to be organized.

[@Skitzotech]

Im not playing this yet for 2 reasons... And the biggest one is that they are waiting till you guys are too deep to pull out then they are gonna SLAP you with the strongest aim assist you have ever seen.

[@aesemon5392]

3:03 good point. That would allow M&KB for console players that want it.

[@calli5004]

it’d be nice but using m&k on console is so ass anyways, i’d rather just get good with controller instead of playing with bad delay on m&k

[@RxalisM]

Exactly, at least offer the possibility. Hate that battlefield doesn’t allow this

[@gingyplays9843]

If your on console never use mouse and key that's dumb your already spending close to $1000 just buy a pc instead if you want mouse and key at least then you won't have a delay

[@RxalisM]

@@gingyplays9843 500 for a console with accessories is not close to 1000 for a pc by itself which might not even run the game well? I play on pc and have console but some people aren't as lucky, or are not children and actually have to buy their own stuff. Increased component costs around the world alongside the accessories required to play pc. It gives people their preferences I'm not sure why your opinion outvalues a preference on how they want to play their own game.

[@JustHereForTheDialogue]

I mean so far it seems like the dev team is really good at telling everyone what they wanna hear based on community feedback. Whilst this is a small step up compared to other games only time will tell if they stay consistent with their words when it comes to making changes to the game. The people have spoken. The reply isn’t terrible but regardless of what they say the scope of SBMM is it needs to be adjusted and toned down if the majority of the community can feel its negative impact.

[@OkieDokieSmokie]

One problem with catching hackers these days is people can actually setup another computer that runs the hacks and feeds the mouse inputs to the “clean” computer. We need the AI detection stuff that Basically Homeless covered a year ago.

[@TheTaurus104]

More important is to fix the performance issues on AMD GPUs and older Nvidia Products and the Solo Mode in Operations. Warfare needs more Balancing on Weapons, TTK and Vehicles

[@iyirautomatic6333]

For Operations I think it pools you on the quality and price of your equipment and weapons

[@mikebarron8702]

I'm Trying to figure out how to use a controller with the vehicles.

[@jamaicanator27]

They can bring Delta Force into the future AND monetize the game successfully without having ability-locked Operators. If 2042 didn’t force you to use a certain specialist to get a certain ability, the game wouldn’t have been as poorly received

[@RogerNbr]

if they do console crossplay their implementation of aim assist will make or break this game also this "points mode" system doesnt really make any sense to me either, why would you ever opt out if its not ranked?

[@PerciusLive]

Aim assist like in apex would be criminal. Many pros use controller because movement just becomes a matter of more complex inputs on controller, but there's nothing that can imitate AA on pc without cheating.

[@Kismet13-qd9vm]

so turn of crossplay.. noted

[@keijokojootti7790]

@@Kismet13-qd9vm Um, people play with controller on PC as well...

[@Kismet13-qd9vm]

@@keijokojootti7790 no I should have been more clear, I'm waiting for it to come out on the ps4, and I don't want to place PC people

[@tacobandit1926]

Having sbmm makes or breaks this game lmao 😂

[@peperodayful]

I have issues with the weekly XP cap for the premium battle pass. Especially when you have to pay more to unlock levels when capped (terrible monetization practice imo). It goes against the whole notion of having a battle pass to begin with (to incentivize players to play more so they can earn more rewards). Let players unlock at their own pace. Don't gate the pass.

[@nukima11]

Just make 32-64 styles of soldiers to choose from and dress them according to class. Then give each class a choice of weapons (specific & shared), 1 equipment & 1 perk choice to top it off. EZPZ

[@djnorth2020]

For better players, problem isn't only that they're always against other better players. It's that they're being pushed into 100-200 ping servers. SBMM isn't really good for making teams balanced, it's causing frustration. Casual players don't see why higher skill players need bad players to

[@OkieDokieSmokie]

If they don’t implement solo queue in extraction, they’ll lose a ton of players soon. Randoms are randoms and friends have to work too

[@AnteBrkic]

Also, smoke spam is good as it is? Hell I'm not touching warfare mode with a 20ft pole.

[@sonbang_fps]

There's no "sbmm". My delta force (warfare) games feel pretty much identical to my bf2042 games in terms w/l and how clueless friendlies and enemies are. What is different is that DF is just a more difficult and unforgiving game, there are several reasons for that but it is. I'm guessing people are blaming sbmm when they havent quite figured out how to manage your life differently than you would in bf2042 or whatever other game they come from. This game plays different.

[@mrwickpt]

They forgot the gravity on aerial vehicles 😂 what a trash movements my gosh, I still can't understand how it's possible to even compare this game with BF2042. Not to mention bugs and glitches, content creators are completely silent about it 😜Now there is no problem with bugs, apparently only bf2042 had them. I played for 2 days and I already found, without exaggeration, more than 20 bugs in the game.This is getting more and more interesting 🤔 let's see who will have the courage to come down to earth and tell the truth about this game instead of worrying more about farming Views and content for the channels.

[@m76bb]

i don't get it... this kernel level anti cheat thing issue ? is my pc data/ privacy compromised?

[@m76bb]

so iv read abit more. yeah i just don't know what to think. are some people waiting a couple of months to see if the game/developer stay's legit?

[@Beeda2004]

nearly all chinese games pc/mobile have weekly limited tier battlepasses genshin, wuthering waves, tower of fantasy and others so its practically normal for them and amybe something new for players who dont have experience with their games

[@DeadEye_FPS_420]

id like to see a toggle in the settings for sbmm, if you dont/do want it you should be able to turn it off / on. if thats even possible i have no clue but would be nice

[@lysgaard9292]

I would 100% rather pay for every single "boring" realistic camo skin for every weapon rather than any of the CSGO skins currently in the game

[@LukeValentino]

One of the best weapon customization systems i've ever played was in Tom Clancy's Wildlands. Would have been much more cool to have something like that

[@lysgaard9292]

@@LukeValentino I really like the visual customization we got now, however I feel its way too easy to make laser weapons.. the CAR-15 is just unbeatable because it has 0 recoil even early levels. its good for new players that they got a good weapon off the bat but it also makes it hard to want to be creative an make weapons that exist of more than the same 5 attatchements across every gun. So there is some balance changes needed cus the TTK is WAY too short and one sided. Also I would love a Hardcore mode as I always played this in CoD, it just require you to have decent aim and reaction time then you can rock whatever attatchments you see fit

[@LukeValentino]

​@@lysgaard9292 As a Hell let Loose player, I would welcome a hardcore mode. Slow everything way down and make 1-2 bullet kills. COD, BF and everything in between are basically silly toy shooters after playing HLL lol.

[@19DESERTFOX91]

for a game that claims to be old school delta force revival yet adds 12 year old fornite style, grab moms credit card skins... i agree id rather pay at this point. i payed 10 bucks for battle pass just because i want the game to do well. I haven't used a single skin yet as they are all bedazzled or fornite made up add ons

[@blackomega34]

I refuse to believe anyone can notice SBMM in a 64 player game. That sounds like manufactured outrage. The only stomp problem in Delta Force is no maximum gear limit in Easy Zero Dam.

[@PerciusLive]

It exists but because the games just all feel the same, no matter how you improve, you dont feel anything. Thats what sbmm tries to achieve. Based off that, yes sbmm does exist, but also there are games in dead hours where you will notice that players get drastically worse and being placed with them, then you will notice how much you've improved. I've played 5 min games because no one knows how to defend an objective because of that and I would much rather play that kind of system than what we have right now where you are constantly sweating otherwise you get rolled.

[@hoboid]

My friend notices it all the time, he gets stomped when he plays with me and stomps on his own. It matters when every enemy is 20% better at the game.

[@jordanmackay6746]

@@hoboid Your friend is lying to you... he sucks all the time except for random lobbies. It is literally impossible for their to be strict sbmm on a mode like this with only 100k players across multiple modes and multiple countries. We would be waiting 5+ minutes to get into games and our ping would be horrible. People just cant face the fact that they suck.

[@msum23]

well, the game feels a LOT more sweaty than the alpha that had bots. Isn't that proof? The game lacks variety of players. There is no way 64p are all the same skill level in reality.

[@blackomega34]

@@msum23 Sweaty? God you people and your buzzwords. Every single shooter is sweaty, at least in this one you can play medic and rez rez rez.

[@TheBookerDeWitt]

Anti cheat that cant keep hackers out, and SBMM that ruins playability. If only these issues could have been predictable...

[@bigbadbusta3871]

Glad to hear they won’t go crazy with the skins. I despise how games “micro” transactions have gone to fortnitification with crazy shit which destroys the tone and vibe of the game. I want delta force to stay militaristic, some flare here and there is cool like weapon engravings and and themed gear setups but no crossovers and NO ANIMALS. Where cod and BF and other big modern shooters have turnt to the Esports route I hope delta force stays closest to a “military” themed shooter

[@epjpeg]

doing sbmm as new players have more strict sbmm and experienced players having wider match making is not a bad idea (if done correctly of course)

[@For_the-Emperor]

Map rotation is awful, the map with the trenches your playing on, I have yet to see it. I’ve been playing consistently since it went open beta and never seen it.

[@PerciusLive]

Its a bad map. I will tell you that now. Point A will collapse immediately, point B is literally great war experience with no man's land getting covered by 12+ snipers and horrible trench routes to navigate to objectives, point C is a much better point A but a bit too open and not enough indestructible cover but the uphill means you're limited in options to take cover, point D is awful and the hill zones is so defender advantaged that almost no games get past this, and point E is unremarkable. The whole points for special orders is something that needs to be tuned because the meta as is rn is you have maybe 5 or 6 guys farm points to hit 18k then whatever point you're stuck on, just spam cruise missiles to break it and then proceed. There's little incentives to use it to spawn vehicles because they're too expensive for how easy they get taken out and how long it takes to get them.

[@Petercrossed]

Never noticed the map rotating while playing ? Might be your graphic card settings.

[@korcommander]

​@@PerciusLivewhat are you talking about, trenches is freaking great. A and D points are more open and free from, while B and C are utter slogs. It's like a combination between Fort Voux and Ballroom Blitz from BF 1.

[@TehUltimateSnake]

You don't want Trench map lol

[@gingertam9138]

the trench map is the worst map ive ever seen whoever created that map needs fired and never be allowed anywhere near map creation ever again

[@GoldFus1on]

Shadow is either clueless or gaslighting, I’ll assume the latter

[@OnyxReXtN]

Need an infantry-only mode. Tired of vehicles destroying everything as the rpg's are too weak.. Also - no gadgets or abilities would be DOPE! The one thing that will get me to quit this game is the constant spamming of sonars and other spot-effects... You can literally NEVER get any effect or reward for being tactically placed or flanking when you are constantly spotted.. Needs a change asap imo.

[@Richard23ca]

It is a bit of a misnomer to say that call of duty in and this game both have kernel level anti-cheats. This is true and it is also not true as there are many different types of kernel level anti-cheats. This one like valorant has 100% access to your computer. From the moment you start your computer, it can view all of your files. Now. This is a good thing for finding cheaters as this is how they circumvent easy anticheat which is also a kernel level anti-cheat. However, this is not what call of duty does call of duty's only starts when you start the game and it only searches the game files to see changes within the game files. It is not a perfect system by any stretch of the means, but it does prevent them from accessing personal data & security information, credit card information, password information which this anti-cheat has access to all of it. This is why people are getting concerned about a Chinese company having access to all this data. As many Chinese companies have been proven to farm, this data.

[@HHZanarkand]

yeah and thats why call of duty is 50% cheaters and unplayable in ranked just give up dude. if you have such sensitive info in your pc then get a second cheaper one you can keep you "secrets" on. im tired of getting killed by cheaters, at this point id pay a subscription to the company if they could guarantee no cheaters

[@Kismet13-qd9vm]

not to mention the fact that its still completely useless because of chronos cards, which bypass the kernel anyways, THERE IS NO REASON FOR KERNEL LEVEL ANYTHING! chronos made these kinds of anticheats obsolete

[@korcommander]

If it's kernel level, it has access to your whole computer. All of these anti cheats do the same things essentially. Even VAC, which runs at ring 1, has some serious privileges on your system. If you're really a stickler for security, you should check on updating your device drivers. They're all kernel level, and probably out of date and insecure.

[@korcommander]

​@@Kismet13-qd9vmThat's a USB device, that can be detected. Though the benefit of using one for mnk really isn't

[@Richard23ca]

@HHZanarkand by that logic I can then say to you stop whining and buy a console! See how non helpful a comment like that is... Smfh

[@Ratatataah]

Idk man... some of yall complain about SBMM like yall aren't also sweating on the game as well. Everyone's objective in game is to win, which means you have to try to actually play the game. Some will have to try harder than others, and some won't have to try as hard. Either way people are all trying to win. And if winning is not your objective then kills is your objective.... which means you still have to TRY to kill someone. You can't complain about SBMM if you are also pushing hard to achieve whatever goal you have in a match. It is kind of hard to get mad when your entire goal is to literally kill as many people as possible.

[@GUXGUX999]

Anticheat and SBMM are broken, getting players with 8, 10 and +12 K/D with +80kills per match on most games right now, while most players on both sides had 2-3 K/D and 20ish kills Its giving XDefiant vibes, it had a good start and whent down hill pretty soon

[@graeto]

A/D drill mode for vehicle practice needs to be able to select the map required i kept getting put into shafted when i wanted to practice helis

[@samridhyadutt5284]

At this rate just add back AI in Warfare

[@Aqia-mq9ip]

The future of this game hangs in the balance.... they're "large pool" of non-newbies needs to be larger. I feel like the so called "New Players" remain new because of their weak skill level, and the game is amazing for them because they never notice the difference because they never have to play better players

[@Ven_detta_]

I still don't understand what I'm missing about SBMM as to why people can openly support it. every time someone complains they are literally saying "I want to stomp new players to feel good about myself", like.... You're good, so you get put with players of your level of play, how is that a problem? Nobody is forcing you to tryhard in casual, I don't even see why you would play casual tbh, but I guess that is why I don't understand SBMM supporters

[@jordan1155]

You can compare concurrent player numbers from a paid game to free to play game.

[@ridwannoor6049]

Somebody is clearly lying about the sbmm. The dev says there are multiple pools of players, the director says there is only two. But from my experience and also watching streamers there are clearly multiple pools of players. For example enders and focus got matched into the same server on opposite teams. If it was one large pool of experienced players then chances of this happening is miniscule.

[@laggmonstret]

I just uninstalled this Battlefield/COD copy and gonna catch up on tv-series instead.

[@tzoninghard2425]

SBMM is bs. If aint a new player get better at the game. Im tired of being matched with chinese players who have high af ping.

[@PerciusLive]

Thats what I've noticed too is that deaths around cover is very common because how the damage gets sent all in a few packets makes it horrible. Either the server refresh rate is garbage, or the ping handling is garbage.

[@minekass]

its should be ranked mode as how higj someone is u will match against same rank or -3+3 rank cus player base is ssmall

[@derangedenjoyer]

pc & console gameplay as advertisement and media exposure, and then mobile for purchases

[@rohellspawn]

I think you missed the point in that the boxing reference was meant for the extraction mode; you wouldn't put a lightweight build against someone with a stronger more bulky build. I appreciate your video for summarizing the AMA, but I think you weighted too heavily as if the Warfare mode was their main and/or only mode

[@Sgttv]

I think regarding SBMM we are told their goal after feedback consideration and if they manage to implement it correctly for the full release it is a straight W no questions asked. In terms of communication it´s not 100% perfect but imho 90% if my assumption is correct. DF Team you are incredible, keep it up!

[@evilspoon88]

Then why just lie about it instead of saying what you did? Doesn't make sense to me

[@jean7059]

You are wrong. VAC doesn't work at the kernel level, and Easy Anti-Cheat allows the developer to choose whether it is going to run at the kernel level or not.

[@korcommander]

VAC runs at ring 1. Stuff at that level can still kill your system.

[@jean7059]

​@@korcommander No, VAC runs at ring 3.

[@killingerk]

what I want is the way to switch from keyboard to a controller or joystick in game it's because I can't fly like shit with my mouse and keyboard if you're ever in an aircraft with me you're dead automatically don't even jump in with me

[@cbarbas]

What I have noticed by me is that if I perform good at some games, the next games I am always with way more skilled players as I am which most of the time I cannot compete and have no chance against them, then after some games the "circle resets" if we allowed to say and starts again! Another maybe bigger problem is that sometimes you play against players with a lower ping as your personal average and you have absolutely no chance against them too! And as I have continue to watch your video I heard you saying exactly the same things!!!

[@daman8492]

1. I do think the complaints about SBMM are stupid, if the game is functioning how I assume. There is a very clear ranked button. I would assume turning ranked off would turn off SBMM. If you want a hardcore, sweaty match, play ranked, but if you're more casual, play unranked. I personally play unranked most of the time and I'd say like 90% of my matches have me around the middle of the leaderboard. I'm weirdly consistent about it, so it at least doesn't feel like SBMM is a thing. It feels like I'm always with casuals and just chilling, doing okay. 2. I would've liked more base skins, like through weapon level up. Having most skins through challenges is just kind of lame. Even if they were basic, like woodland camo or desert camo, it would've been nice to just earn more skins by using a weapon. Right now, the only skin you earn directly from using a weapon is that orange, white and black Delta skin. I think they should expand on this because like, besides a few very specific weapon skins from challenges, I'm just looking at normal black weapons almost all the time. There needed to be a bit more progression, in my opinion.

[@SAKEWCW]

You should have seen the entire video before write. They said that there is not such a thing as rank mode is just a bad translation from chinese, the only difference is that when you mark that "rank mode" you obtain points but you play in the same servers than the rest of people regardless of whether they have the "ranked" box is checked or not, so SBMM is for everyone.

[@Karl__sandberg]

If they don’t get rid of sbmm then it’s back to Karkand boys

[@Desiderium]

I don't like SBMM because I hate feeling punished for being good at the game - especially if SBMM is active in unranked modes. League of Legends is HORRIBLE for this. I can hardly have a fun casual time with my friends because my MMR is so much higher than theirs and they get stomped. I'm ACTIVELY punished for being good at the game and it's a terrible feeling. Because of this, I no longer have intentions of playing Delta Force.

[@chaithethai9171]

Although I do really want console to enjoy this game, I don’t want to have to play against aim assist. Input based match making options would be very welcomed!

[@george7141]

50% win rate ? I'm at 27% something is very off here

[@andreiserde9441]

They said they have *not* implemented a 50% win rate system.

[@jeremylim2421]

which is proof there isn't a magical 50% winrate matchmaking system otherwise you'd be getting much easier games

[@DJDadonik]

The best anti cheat is input based crossplay or removing aimbot from console player with no hands.

[@JustDan718]

seems "skill" is based on other player stats other than winrate; maybe accuracy, headshot count, k:d ratio as other measures of skill?

[@PerciusLive]

Probably. I checked my stats and besides my WR, all my other stats (besides objective time) are above average. It makes my MM a bit wonky because it sees my 40-ish% War but my kpm and says this guy has no bracket and tosses me into sweats one game then noobs the next 5. Ngl, I do like rolling through games going 50+ kills every time but it still takes away player autonomy and impact when you're subjected to the whims of a mm system

[@Stunl3y]

Ive tried to like this game but I cant get taken in by all the hype not only the SBMM but the jerky movement /animation , the specialist spam , the weapon balance , the hit detection the list goes on .. sorry BF2042 was a poor game by BF standards but I personally feel the difference is night and day between these two games

[@AloizXPulse]

Quite disappointed a bout the ranked mode. I'm a competitive player so when I saw ranked I was so happy but knowing that it's just a merit system and not a real ranked :/ That's sad

[@Jester747]

Still hasn't addressed not being able to rebind the chat key! Lefty mouse users like me use the number pad side of the keyboard.

[@DellOptiplex3010]

OCE servers in the drain

[@Sparrow.31]

I don't see how that system work on giving the time for new player to learn the game. For the beta after only 1 SINGLE ROUND i get f by the sbmm and have to try hard every single game. Also i'm not new to fps and did some ranked and comp but it's really strange that in this game, pretty much 60%(or more) of the player base get a negative ratio on win loose. My number of wins is so low that i start to ask myself if you need to pay to get a win.

[@shadrachlane5555]

Im surprised they even mentioned DMA cheating very stupid for them to do that now anyone that didn't know about that now knows. DMA cheating is about the only thing thhat gets past ACE. You also need a second computer and about $1k to get started

[@keller8821]

yea that SBMM comment was re written so many times before he hit publish. what he says is not what it feels like. how does the game know youre a good player? score per minute? i can get 10 kills but 15-20k score just being a medic and playing OBJ. SBMM is pointless in this game (and most games besides ranked mode... the competitive gamemode).

[@crackdog3523]

People dont understand words. They just hear SBMM and freakout even though its not the same type. Prior to their explanation i would have agreed, but since basically just a new player protection then youre let loose, thats not really sbmm

[@AnteBrkic]

Crazy how we all accepted p2w as normal.

[@ogdaddyclean7778]

The menus are atrocious in this game but you get over it after a while

[@zack9912000]

TTK is way to ling, should not take a full mag to just drop someone. Especially the more powerful rounds

[@CapStar362]

PC HOTAS support would be nice, but there seems to be a very dangerous trend now that PC titles are stripping out HOTAS support for those of us who use HOTAS for flight.

[@zthihasan5169]

The time lock is not ment for this mobile thing its chinese legal system. Their gov want to limit the gamining time and gamble loot box system. Locking Xp gain is one of government requirement also good for money making, don't get me wrong they need money to maintain thigs like server and salary of dev and IT. Hope this help.