Ghosts in JoJo

[@Chernobog2]

The idea that a soul is like a proto-Stand could give more context to why attempting to forcibly awaken a Stand can be fatal, in Holly's case for example her soul was literally being forced out of her body in the form of a Stand

[@BornToPeeForcedToDrinkIt]

That actually makes perfect sense. It also explains Koichi’s unique case where he only had partial resolve due to his immaturity and why he didn’t heal by himself like most arrow victims and needed Josuke. His Stand evolved along with his resolve as he matured over the course of the part.

[@RandomNulls]

@@BornToPeeForcedToDrinkIt also the fact that Josukes ability is returning things to their originals state, meaning he probably pulled back in some of the soul that he lost

[@blueroserhythm]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/fJauXmxql7GCq7s

[@deserted4ever]

@@RandomNulls probably not cause his grandpa wouldnt have left to the afterlife otherwise he would be forcibly returned to life he definitely had the resolve as a police officer having that past with Angelo and his care for his family but still mustve felt his time had come similar to bucciarati

[@Mommy-kima]

Okay but shouldn't a ghost look like their stand? For example if Kakyoin dies he should look like Heirophant green because that's his spirit

[@ffffffffROTHY]

"What's a ghost need with oxygen anyway? If ghosts needed to breathe, all the dead would use up all the air and we'd suffocate!" - Okuyasu

[@GalekC]

Thank you🙏

[@sebulcrum]

That’s… actually a good point. Huh.

[@AchillesofOblivion]

Smartest jojo character

[@sonetagu1337]

Okuyasu may not have gone to University, but has a rare thing called "common sense". Easily the smartest JoJo character

[@sandmaneyes]

Dr. Nijimura Okuyasu, PhD in Smartness

[@mrreyes5004]

I love how Araki took the concepts of ghosts/spirits and somehow legitimately tied them to college-level quantum mechanics.

[@dejakiller69]

Serbian junior high school*

[@jamesverhoeven8769]

@@dejakiller69 fr college level a little more advanced than jojo lmao at least I’d hope so based on my grade

[@an3582]

Souls and ghosts are not real, fyi.

[@anon9507]

@@an3582 youre bitches aint real lmao +Ratio

[@bangerxshane]

Virtual particles aren't something most people would learn in college.

[@MarqwizMusic]

It's also something to note that the alien virus in stand arrows brings you close to death, possibly activating your stand ability through your resolve to stay alive.

[@somethingbanter]

That reason is why I don't actually think the main purpose of the virus is to create a stand I think it is meant to be fully lethal but that something within humans allows them to survive and that the stand is just a naturally occurring thing that the virus happens to create the perfect breeding ground for by truly testing there resolve with a guaranteed fatal experience.

[@BizarreCrow]

@@somethingbanter Also with animals too Ig not just humans but ye.

[@bluecoconut9543]

@@BizarreCrow humans are animals

[@KaioBaku]

@@bluecoconut9543 all humans are animals but not all animals are humans

[@O_Ironick]

I hope to someday have an anime adaptation of Dead Man's Question.

[@littlekingbaku5092]

It probably will after part 8 gets an anime

[@hunterstjean119]

Yeah I would just like some sort of ova for the novels like the Rohan Kishibe ova’s

[@teamcosmeek6467]

@RedDot potato?

[@Radio-97]

@RedDot We have a comedian I see

[@axolotteamshinyrocketdanie9366]

I hope we get an adaptation of every jojo spin off

[@zephyrprime8]

My theory is that Kira's dad in the picture is not really a ghost like Reimi, but his stand was one that activated after death and took the form of himself inside pictures. As in, the him in the picture is not the actual him as a ghost, but rather his stand.

[@GalekC]

Come to think of it, in the anime, his Stand stats screen does in fact show Yoshihiro himself in his photo. Wow

[@Daniel-lq5qq]

That would explain why His personality is diffrent

[@MrGksarathy]

I personally think there's no real difference. Atom Heart Father is basically his ghost.

[@dante_himself]

I always considered the picture as incidental as the turtle stand that harnessed Polnareff's soul.

[@kaankarcan558]

Like how Stray Cat is? The cat that turned into Stray Cat stand is not the cat anymore, right?

[@edupietrafessafilho7845]

Thinking about it now, there are actually A LOT of ghosts in Jojo.

[@recitationtohear]

Link to the clip you all wanted *kzbin.info/www/bejne/o3TJipxta5hnqLc*

[@pelaoperez9874]

@@recitationtohear Thanks!

[@Verosika_scorpia]

Yea if you count *Stands*

[@MDClips2464]

As someone who hasn't read the spinoffs, I feel like I've really learned a whole other part of the world of JoJo just watching this video

[@kanseidorifto2430]

A favorite one of mine that I've read is Rohan at the Louvre, it has some good use of horror with a story attached regarding ghosts as other aspects, including the art being another marvelous inclusion by Araki. I totally recommend reading a spinoff.

[@TheDigitalApple]

Still find Kira’s dad to be a unique case. He is still dead, but has his own stand.

[@SoupSnakeSal]

Mighty sus^^^

[@Mentallyheld]

maybe if the user dies and still has a stand they keep their stand after death or maybe ghosts can just train to gain a stand (or get stabbed by the arrow) but..kira is a unique case

[@Mentallyheld]

maybe its because of the alleyway and well you know killer queen getting grabbed by the hands and being shattered. maybe its the reason why he dosent possess a stand in the manga

[@woobgamer5210]

I think Kira's father had used an arrow on himself before he died, keeping the arrow for safekeeping ,and then of course dying, which triggered his stand ability which tied into his resolve and guilt to keep living on through his post-mortem stand

[@Daniel-lq5qq]

Its because the alleyway He is a rare Case.

[@HelixSnake]

I love how what I expected was just a simple video on a somewhat explored concept in jojo and what I got by the end of the video is some kind of Unified Field Theory tying every supernatural concept in Jojo together with quantum physics

[@HelixSnake]

honestly in terms of theory crafting this might have gotten to the point of being a bit of a stretch, not that it doesn't make sense. I look forward to seeing if later in the series this concept is given more evidence for or against it.

[@ethankaryadi37]

Since a type of limbo exists in the series, would it be possible for Diavolo to enter into that same limbo after his death in Part 5? I’ve been thinking that after he fell into the river and possibly drowned while bleeding out, his death loop must’ve happened at a metaphysical level and that it’s his soul that’s being “reduced to zero.” A sign that says that the death loop isn’t happening in the real world is that when he was stabbed he did not have access to King Crimson. Like with Yoshikage Kira, stand abilities are either taken away or simply rendered redundant by greater spiritual entities.

[@lukewalkerr2d2]

This is a very interesting idea, I've been thinking about what happened to Diavolo ever since the anime aired. If Giorno went down into the sewers to look for Diavolo, would he find his stabbed body? Or did Diavolos body literally dissappear after being stabbed? Or possibly your idea, and Diavolo did bleed out and drown in the river, and what Trish was feeling was Diavolos soul still remaining in the world somewhere. I'd be curious to hear what Araki would say about this topic.

[@Umberman]

Diavolo, in my opinion, had his body killed when GER punched him, but as an extension of GE's "being punched by GE makes time extend for a really long time", he'd entered into a cycle of constantly being *in the process* of dying, but never truly being able to actually die, a mix of GER's ability of deleting cause and effect as well as its original ability, basically throwing Diavolo into his own personal nightmare realm for all eternity, subjected to being almost killed time and time again, and then being reset to the moment GER punched him, about to die, and then looping over and over again. The main point of contention is if what's occuring to Diavolo is something that actually is legitimately happening, or GER is making him perceive these things as happening or if he's being inserted into the point of view of people that are dying or have died in similar ways

[@simeonwashington9995]

I just love how Araki is able to weave these themes and ideas through the parts and then use other parts to explore them further. Gravity, fate, flow, resolve, ghosts and souls. It's even cooler when they intersect!

[@MUSQUIZanimation]

Kira’s dad is easily my favorite JoGhost. I find it super charming that a father would become a ghost just to help his serial killer son. It’s kinda wholesome idk.

[@not_anymore]

i get exactly what you mean lol, and i agree, it's wholesome in its own, weird way. but also he wasn't exactly a good father when he was still alive. according to this partially-canon backstory he would turn a blind eye to Yoshikage's mother abusing him smh

[@fungamesandstuffwhy2516]

@@not_anymore but that's why he does what he does for him because he feels bad he wanted to make it up so in a way it's still good

[@not_anymore]

@@fungamesandstuffwhy2516 i know, i know... ah, i'm too lazy to explain what i meant. but it's wholesome either way, so, forget it. my bad

[@MilkJugA_]

Wonder if Mikataka somehow ascended to getting a stand wherever he came from, and landed on earth because of thats where most stand users are (stand gravity)

[@berlyansyach9119]

There are theories that suggests he comes from the same place as the stand virus meteorite, which kinda make sense

[@Zekiraeth]

Maybe he was born as a stand user and since he didn't have any explanation for why he was different from everyone, he convinced himself he was an alien. Maybe his "allergy" to certain sounds is mostly just a nocebo (like the opposite of placebo, google it if you're confused).

[@typhoonzebra]

I'm still convinced he's just a wacko who _lives_ to screw with people.

[@asaknight321]

I never knew Kira had a spin off that took place after part 4. This is truly awesome and I need to check it out.

[@rottenrevival1370]

wait until you find out about crazy diamonds demonic heartbreak

[@backroomsdbm]

Referring to souls and resolve as mechanics is hilarious

[@vanillaice1412]

If you can tech a thing its considered a mechanic XD

[@JaVWS]

Off-topic but I misread your username as BackroomsBDSM lmao

[@backroomsdbm]

@@JaVWS maybe I should rebrand to that

[@overworkedgilgamesh]

@@backroomsdbm i think you mean ""MECHANISM"

[@CarlosRoyalTiger]

I always liked to think Bruno died during the time skip, so he never really properly died. It was a personal joke to say that Bruno "forgot he died".

[@Poet482]

One of the most common things people misunderstand is this video's topic, so it's appreciated that you made this to clarify for people who aren't paying close attention. The biggest one I hear about is Joseph at the end of Stardust Crusaders. They don't the mechanics at play. Honestly they should simply reread the part, or watch the anime, and pay closer attention to the fine details. From the beginning of Phantom Blood.

[@ronniesit570]

This is my favorite explanations of the underlying supernatural principles of stuff in jojo

[@PrixtoTNT]

I always found weird when ghosts were introduced in Part 4 since it was mostly ambiguous before

[@sansprobus7209]

Remember when shapeshifting aztec gods of fitness with elemental powers were introduced in part 2, when it was left ambiguous before? Remember when the explicit concept of Heaven was introduced in part 6, even though it was ambiguous before? Aaraki tends to disambiguate.

[@topoftherock-]

every hamon has its beat

[@littlekingbaku5092]

Every golden ratio has a spin

[@rosal3755]

At least my interpretation is that stands hamon & spin are all different expressions of the same force just given different forms & thus different properties

[@yasinshehata]

a good video topic to be honest because a lot of people call situations with ghosts ass pulls or araki forgot

[@mikelonduckguey]

1:18 poor hamon beat is so traumatized by the average jojo fan's level of information retention that he briefly recapped the concept of death

[@deadliestvice5356]

I hate it when a ghost bullet destroys my ghost computer while i do ghost research with me suffering from bad ghost memory.

[@alienalchemist]

Is there an explanation on how Stand users in GD st. prison didn't stumble in one of the ghost rooms? Do you need Emporio's permission to enter one of the ghost rooms?

[@Daniel-lq5qq]

I dont believe you need Access maybe He can choose it random the entrance and thats how Nobody ever touched it

[@MrGksarathy]

I think he was just very careful about hiding the entrances.

[@Evnyofdeath]

I've viewed it as his Stand is what grants access to the Ghost Room. The mechanics of the room otherwise follow standard ghost rules, but his Stand is what makes it exist in the first place.

[@Joanbueller007]

nah, miu miu enter the room without permission

[@Umberman]

it's a tiny crack in the wall to most stand users and thus, they ignore it or don't care

[@michaelcarlton1484]

I was literally just thinking about the different ghosts in JOJO earlier today! Mostly because I had just watched a reaction to Polnareff's death. Edit: Okay, very surprised you didn't mention Polnareff's ghost at all in this video...

[@recitationtohear]

Link to the clip you all wanted *kzbin.info/www/bejne/o3TJipxta5hnqLc*

[@GalekC]

Hamon Beat can't the be-all-end-all of every single JoJo tidbit. I think we could have even more JoJotubers like him. So many here other than him seem to be, like, just theorists on common JoJo topics or meme-junkies. Gotten tiring, imo

[@rudys.artous5477]

@@GalekC its sad that hamon beats like the only one who talks about the jojo world and lore, most jojo creators do only theories and memes yeah. Even sadder is how disconnected the jojo content creators are, like they dont even share infos or talk to each other

[@mr.andrew7820]

From what I remember the turtle died and Polnareff's soul became the owner of the body

[@DoganME]

@@mr.andrew7820 no, after the battle with Diavolo his soul would go to afterlife because the soul of tortoise returned, but he was quick enough to get sucked into tortoise stand, and now he is in the key for how long he wants or when the tortoise will die

[@nuclearocean]

Wait, so if ghost weapons are dangerous to ghosts and stands are a type of ghost... Emporio could've shot MiH

[@SuperDababy2]

he couldn't move for like the whole time because of Fate, after that tho he should have totally did it

[@chlorophyll1767]

I'm not sure why, but I was always under the impression that Mista's encounter with Rolling Stones was the reason Bucciaratti remained "alive"; i.e. he changed Bucciaratti's fate through the interaction with that Stand, meaning that Bucciaratti was not fated to die the first time King Crimson fatally wounded him, and thus was able to keep living despite Giorno being unable to fully bring him back to life. I suppose I stand corrected, though.

[@carloscauan7967]

The point of that arc was to say that Mista's attempt to prevent Bucciarati's death only indirectly caused Narancia and Abbacchio to die as well.

[@slimabob]

I always understood this to be the case as well. The first form of the stone was his fated death against Diavolo, but Mista changing it altered the nature of his death, allowing him to cling on just a bit longer- as well as condemning some of his team to death in the process. But yeah I guess not.

[@chlorophyll1767]

@@carloscauan7967 Yeah, I got that much - but it seemed to me that there was some kind of exchange performed. Bucciaratti's life was extended, in exchange for the deaths of the other two. They're sleeping slaves to Fate, they really have no say over whether they live or die. Hence my read of it was that Diavolo uses King Crimson to cheat Fate and kill Bucciaratti, but Fate decrees that Bucciaratti must survive for longer due to that exchange of lives, and so he does. It always struck me as somewhat up to interpretation, at least.

[@ernestoirrazabal6594]

My interpretation of that arc was similar, as I understood it, Rolling Stone gives you a more "Meaningful Death", it finds people who are going to die worthless deaths, and adds a positive outcome to their fated demise. Bucciarati was always going to die against Diavolo, and in that arc, it was Fugo who was going to meet Giorno, and most likely, kill him, a completly different outcome to that of Bucciarati meeting Giorno, as Fugo didn't have any intention of betraying the boss. So, the story without Giorno would have concluded on Diavolo killing Bucciarati and Trish, and that was it, the end of it. It's unclear what kind of "Positive" outcome would have been created if Rolling Stones came in contact with Bucciarati, maybe the mission to find Giorno would have been cancelled, and the gang would go on to get better positions in the association, everybody simply lives "better" more comfortable lifes. However, by Mista using Gravity to "destroy" Rolling Stones, a third path was created, one, of much sacrifice and death, but of plenty of positive outcomes as well. Is important to note that none of those 3 Deaths were "worthless" they all served a greater purpose that led to the defeat of Diavolo, the greates enemy of the Gang and of Fate it self. Trish, Giorno, Mista, Fugo, and even the rest of Italy, now live better lifes thanks to this outcome.

[@dankerbooper]

@@chlorophyll1767 If Bruno fatefully died during his first encounter with Diavolo, the rest of the team would likely give up, causing Abbachio and Narancia to never die because of their disloyalty to the boss. Had Mista never stopped Rolling Stone Narancia and Abbachio would be alive yes, but Diavolo would also still be running his drug empire.

[@xparana]

I believe this was the video that I have enjoyed the most so far. Realizing the connection between stands and the very souls of its users, even after life, is simply fantastic. The series has always played with the concepts of powers such as hamon, stands, spins, etc, and realizing how they are interconnected with the ancestors is summarily marvelous.

[@AlexGarcia-me6md]

Bro literally just seeing the panels of okayasu seeing his brother in the afterlife and then coming back made me cry😭

[@stuckonaslide]

I like jojo's supernatural phenomena more than others because it feels more real. like instead of other stories which explain them fully. and in a way that makes sense, jojo's fictional forces are largely unexplained not-well-understood phenomena. much like ones in our world. like how with a lot of quantum mechanics, the answer is "we dont know. its just kinda like that." jojo's spiritual forces are like that. probably because Araki related them to real things in quantum mechanics.

[@Venom87542]

There was one thing that was intriguing in relation to this topic. In part 5, when Buccarati is about to pass on, (at least in the anime.) there is a part where you see clouds part to reveal the top of a golden spire with a cherub statue at the very top of it. Now I’m wondering, was that heaven? Or just a building in the background of Italy that symbolizes it? I hope I’m not crazy but does anyone know what I mean? lol

[@Daniel-lq5qq]

Its maybe His Personal heaven

[@Venom87542]

@@Daniel-lq5qq I can see that :)

[@mr.andrew7820]

I mean,even if It's a different universe there is a angel in part 7(the Guardian of the Head)

[@hidden_animator522]

I’m sure that some form of a positive afterlife exists in jojo. Dunno if it’s the Christian/Catholic version of heaven but its definitely implied ghosts like Reimi and Bruno “go somewhere else” and don’t just disappear.

[@mr.andrew7820]

@@hidden_animator522 Jesus is a character in part 7

[@bluecoconut9543]

You’re honestly the best KZbinr when it comes to jojo content and you’re honestly one that can understand jojo. You deserve my sub.

[@Pensive_Scarlet]

"Oh, so his stand burned the house down?" - "No, no, his stand's *name* is Burning Down The House." - "...because it burns down houses and turns them into ghosts?" - "No, no! Because it's a music thing, the author likes music a lot." - "...oh."

[@deconyus3412]

Hamon Beat this is such a good video to help explain what i love about jojo no one realizes. The reason why jojo is bizarre but not completely wacky random rule of cool as so many understand it as. Its internal consistency is tied to the concept that the spirit is just the residual particles that exist on a (rudimentary but suffice) quantum level. I could kiss you mate my god

[@pancakes8816]

Just realized, burning down the house is a way for emporio to see stand but not be an active member of the team. Basically he's the smokey of his part, except he actually does something

[@khulegt504]

ive already read the dead mans question long but ago i never realized hamon beats pfp was kira from dead mans questions

[@MrGksarathy]

I wonder, since well-trained Hamon can become a Stand like Hermit Purple, if a user on the level of say Master Tonpetty, who could read the Ripple of one's life, can see ghosts?

[@Acoustic_Screecher]

I think tonpetty would basically get a much stronger version of hermit purple, in which case yes, he would see stands.

[@xayahblush7532]

This really makes sense now that i think about it. As people need determination to be able to become Stand users, they also need it for their soul to come back if they happen to be revived, and i think that they're both pretty much the same case. Both cases are just having your soul out of your body, depending on how tied are they by your determination and the state of your body. Being determined and having a functional body means you can go back at any time, which makes stands possible. If you lack only determination, you cannot have a Stand, and if it's forced on you, it's like tearing your soul apart. If you lack only a functional body, you only need it to be healed to revive, and if you force it, your body won't really properly receive you as it cannot support you anymore.

[@_its_ezra]

When he was describing how the ghostly places are between two objects I immediately thought of Funny Valentine

[@limbarticus]

Wake up babe new Hamon Beat video dropped

[@chasethecringewolf2195]

So this may be a somewhat stupid question while at the same time a potential idea for a separate video. Admittedly Anubis is my favorite stand, kinda simp for him lol. But im curious if youd consider him an independent stand that has always had his own personality or just gained a consciousness through his users death. If this is a question worth asking, either or this brings up the idea how different are stand identities from their users? Koichi’s Echo seems pretty distinct, while Golden Experience requiem acts exactly like Giorno just hiding it from him. Most important is Death 13, despite being what seems like a controlled stand he often refers to mannish baby as his “stand user,” probably not a big deal but im curious about sentient stands. White Snake appears to have a distinct personality as well from Pucci.

[@michaelcarlton1484]

Anubis is a Bound Stand attached to a sword. He is probably acting like Notorious B.I.G. in that he does things due to a very strong motive that keeps him in existence despite his user's death. Lots of Stands have some way of communicating separate from their user. Anubis is just a bit more developed in that way.

[@ernestogabrielhorus7608]

Stands with personalitys, like Echoes Act 3 and White Snake, express the "true" feelings of their users, that's why Echoes insults people and why White Snake is so evil, and why the Bullets of Sex Pistols bully Number 5 (who is in reality Number 4). The one Stand that seems to trully have it's own personality is Dragon's Dream, since it's personality come from the concept of Feng Shui and not from his user.

[@theworldofmandom7227]

Nothing like a HB video early in the morning 😊

[@AndresElPatronFH]

A video about popular Jojo theories that aren't confirmed but are well structured would be cool.

[@bathilra5364]

glad you talking abot you profile pic finaly

[@Inferno144]

I always enjoy these videos as it helps me better understand the world of Jojo. Such as Hamon's videos on Fate and King Crimson that gave me a better understanding of them as I only used to have a vague idea of what they were. Like yeah, you and I know what a ghost and what fate is. But within Jojo, such things mean something a bit different.

[@Bec-Son]

Im kinda curious what if they explored emporios ability with ghost rooms more, like if you opened a window would it be surrounded by ghost hands or end up spitting you back into the room ala portal where it just puts you back in through a different entryway or window

[@Gloomdrake]

It would prolly just deposit you outside of the Stand in an appropriate relative location, possibly high up

[@Bec-Son]

@@Gloomdrake Winchester house but with Emporio, would be a massive maze

[@jaejae465]

the concept of Stand users are basically normal people who have talent to touch/awoken their own soul. so strong that it can be manifested out is making a perfect sense to me. arrows are made to push that "talent" so they can use manifest their soul. So stands are basically a powerful souls coming out of a talented destined person. And ghost (object, person, ect) are basically stands, but have no powers. stands are just a way to specialize a soul that is so strong it have powets

[@Skoposplatinum]

have you done a video on all the non-stand abilities in jojo? ex. Donavan from part 2, Wired Beck (who i think is a vampier), the rock humans from part 8, sandman from part 7, etc.

[@boubaker7037]

I don't think he did, would be interesting to do tho. Like Robinson bug ability

[@MidoriNatsume]

I still think that Josuke's father simply decided (probably subconsciously) to just pass on. He was a old man who lived a happy life, and even if he died a violent death, he could move on in peace because he knew that Morioh had still a Golden Heart who would right the wrongs of evil.

[@082thanitanonwongkhokhum7]

You mean Joseph? Just joking lol

[@Oliander712]

She's up there, Hamon Beat!

[@pajamapantsjack5874]

Personal love for DMQ Kira outfit. Hope it gets added to ASBR

[@BizarreCrow]

Holy shi- I just came up with ENORMUS theories after just watching this, I feel enlightened, like I’ve just figured out all of JoJo’s biggest mysteries. I might make a reddit post or something on all the theories I’ve thought of since I haven’t put any of them out there yet, I’ll come back and edit this comment with the link to it later if/when I post it but yeah o_0

[@jamesburke4747]

12:37 the best way, I would explain it at least at this point in the video is that there are rare cases where pieces of the soul are inherited, causing said, psychic connections although most of the time it is usually the soul form from the spiritual energy mentioned before

[@nathanpfirman625]

One idea I have is that a stand can either be somebody who chooses to support a person after their death and take the form of a stand. For example Jotaro’s Star Platinum has a striking look to Johnathan. Maybe he came back to stop Dio. Or it could just be part of the user’s soul put into form separate from the rest of their soul in some cases.

[@Mana_the_great777]

Stands can probably also touch ghosts that you cant touch yourself

[@faisal-eo5hc]

Dio: *kills Jonathan* Jonathan 100 years later: ORA ORA

[@creepertal6533]

Woah, me and my brother were talking about this topic today and then I saw your video... how spooky

[@fink_rat]

I always saw Yoshihiro as a Stand from a deceased user since he is technically still bound by his ability Atom Heart Father, just now unable to trap anyone else thanks to the fight with Jotaro and Josuke (and possibly the camera being destroyed, my memory is hazy on if Jotaro/Josuke broke the camera after the fight). It does have it's own contradictions like Yoshihiro being able to interact with the world outside of his self portrait such as with his clothing thread and the arrow.

[@ziggyyyzz]

1:58 So Okuyasu died and just said "Not yet dawg" and just started living again? What a chad.

[@plsmorecats]

Ghost lore is one of my favorite things in Jojo, it'd be great if we got more chapters of DMQ in the future

[@Nintendex64]

@Hamon Beat Your The Best!!

[@epic_soup779]

YES I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS

[@user-dizzle]

I wanna see Hamon beat make a video dedicated to the Kars novel if he hasn’t already

[@mini4797]

Ngl you're intro looks like it was made 6 years ago,still amazing

[@Lavender_Fox]

I like the thought of there being a ghost version of killer queen somewhere, just being a 6 foot tall cat.

[@iannijimura3608]

No ghost Polnareff?

[@masteryoraerasante]

So, if the soul is a proto-stand, does that mean that a human's (or animal's) ghost is actually their old stand? It would explain why Kira's ghost lost access to Killer Queen, because he IS Killer Queen. Also would mean the Stand's shape is the shape of their soul, thus why even similar stands are still somewhat different - because their users are different even if very alike, like Dio/Diego and the two Kiras. But would that make ghost locations related to absorbing the energy of many stand users around? Would a ghost location sorta work like a proto-"blessing of the Earth"? Either way, there may be a relation why two of the three locations we have being related to so many Stand Users, and the third we don't have much info to tell?

[@Daniel-lq5qq]

They are very interesting topic in Jojo !!! Thank you for making this Video! I believe Araki believes in Ghost Like many of US and you can See it in His Work. He actually is Close to the Truth with it. I wonder If He can Make a jojo in the Ghost World or something Like that. Also he does Ghost who are from heaven but He never did any from Hell. Star Platinum Looks like a jinny/ Gin from Aladdin!!!! I believe He can make a Jojo only in Ghost World. In Japan and in America they believe in Ghost many People and maybe He had a Experience thats why He Likes them to use so much. Also a Jojo in the Stand World would be amazing.

[@mr.andrew7820]

This could also use more folklore beings and legends from different countries

[@pandathederp]

This is a very interesting video

[@stuckonaslide]

damn. I really hope araki develops these more in TJL. we still know next to nothing about how any of the power systems work

[@lobster6736]

I literally read dead man's questions and asked myself about how ghosts work 4 hours before this video released the fuck

[@x88.berkay]

love ur vids

[@davizi6146]

Personally, I think whether or not someone can come back after death has less to do with their resolve, and more to do with their personal wishes. Like it technically DOES have something to do with resolve, but about as much as resisting the temptation to eat a cake even though you know you can and not get caught. For example, in Josuke's grandpa's case, I have a feeling he simply didn't feel like coming back. He felt he led a full life and a second chance would have less meaning than his own death. He seemed like the type who would WANT to pass on. In the case of Okuyasu and Joseph, they both wanted to come back. For Joseph it was likely because he had a whole lot of unfinished business (such as Josuke), and for Okuyasu he was just not ready to pass on yet, he's still a teenager after all and has his whole life ahead of him. In Bruno's case, I think the reason he became a zombie is because he was a walking contradiction: more than ready to, even *expecting* to die over this journey, and yet needing to live long enough to ensure it is successful. As such he only half came back; just enough to complete his mission, and then pass on. My main support for this is the case of Reimi... She was just a normal teenage girl, and yet she was able to remain after death. She couldn't have had THAT strong of a resolve, not yet anyway. Yet she was able to stay (granted, in a limited area, like most ghosts who haunt). I believe if her body was healed like everyone else mentioned here, she too would've come back, but she was never given that chance, hence why she ended up haunting the area she died in. Granted this is all speculation based more on their characters then on the established rules of the series, but it probably makes sense.

[@Unhappytimeaper]

Reimi seemed to be more stuck in the case of how most ghost live in the point of resolve for her murder. Much like other ghost media she stayed because of the resentment of being murdered so young creating the limbo state of how she kept going more aligned with ghost stories [which are explored more in the Rohan spin off and in a bonus drama cd for part 4]. Okayasu and Joseph seemed to have the difference of vessels to come back to but with enough resolve to just keep living thus there not being a reason to pass on, while Bruno resolve only made peace to fulfill his promise to Giorno and finish what he had started by promosing to protect Trish [again for Bruno his team/found family was the only thing that mattered for his resolve to protect]. Reimi's case didn't have a body as it wasn't resorted with a stand and then burried making the alley as her 'body' again open only to few people to see. All of this differs from the grandpa because he didn't know he was murdered and you could argue given being a cop assumed he would die in a chance like that because of work. There was no resolve to bring him back because he had no knowledge that it was murder to create that resentment unlike Reimi and to him there was nothing abnormal because he didn't know of stands or what the future would hold to keep him alive.

[@Ghost-in8bs]

Black Sabbath also deals with this association. Taking the old man’s soul results in just that, but attacking giorno brings out gold experience.

[@foranzo1582]

Fantastic video!!

[@chloemariebaker9754]

Ok so this was a great video!!

[@PrixtoTNT]

"In Japanese the series reffers to this kinds of ghosts as Revenants" DOOM fans: *What did you say?*

[@malachiblack700]

Question, could Emporio use Burning Down the House on the Ghost Alley, since it's a ghost location??

[@trappedcosmos]

Could the ghost hands kill ultimate kars?

[@miimiibeschde4818]

When okuyasu wouldn't be a idiot

[@trappedcosmos]

@@miimiibeschde4818 The ghost hands not The Hand

[@miimiibeschde4818]

@@trappedcosmos I think they could just Take him with them but he wouldn't Die

[@neoxus30]

Ever since the first time I read that Extras #3 chapter in Steel Ball Run about 10 years ago, I got stuck with the idea of the relation of stands with other things) I got several theories born from that chapter)

[@hamburgerhelpertastesbad]

Hamon beat video Hamon beat video

[@lorenzodepaoli3642]

unpopular opinion: Joseph could be revived in time by Jotaro despite his old age because of his experience with hamon, in contrast with Josuke's grandpa

[@yuunkuro2616]

They can see souls/ghost the same way they can see stands because stands are a visual representation of ones life energy or in other words their souls get it and its probably invisible to a non stand user. Edit: My bad didn't watch before commenting

[@zenithstudio6819]

We know what happens to spirits but I want to know what happens to stands when they die.

[@epic_soup779]

Great video, answered a lot of questions I had. Now we just need to find out why Arnold's neck is still bleeding after 15 years.

[@Seb_No.13]

My idea is that ghost stands, i.e. stands that persist even if their users have died with lingering feelings, usually negative, until killed like Atom Heart Father, or retired or, somewhat immobilised, like Notorious BIG. Works if the user stabs their stand with an arrow, but are killed before it is utilised.

[@Crissley10]

I wish I knew more about Polnareff post part 5

[@Plague-Doctoor]

This reminds of one episode 14 in jojo diamond is unbreakable qhere rohan and kohici meet a ghost girl and her dog they died by a murderer who was under her bed licking her hand as her dog does but she cpuld her the drop sound coming from the closet when she opens it its her dog hanging with a cut throat and the thing licking her hand stabs her back

[@newagenarv]

ayy another video!

[@ElectricGlowSkull]

I still find it funny that this guys username is from a Jojo game voiceline

[@kylonbell123]

Notification Squad tap in.😁

[@averagephlogfan6475]

No

[@kylonbell123]

@@averagephlogfan6475 oh brother I'm glad I didn't see this sooner lmao I'll let you bigot in solace 🤡

[@piotr7448]

Possible idea for a video. There is one entity in Jojo world that I can't really understand - Stray Cat. As far as I know, it originated from a body of a dead cat (so maybe it's partially ghost?), physically it's some plant-animal hybryd, and maybe has a stand aspect, due to air control ability (although Hayato could see it). Is there any explanation of Stray Cat origins and nature? I couldn't find any.

[@boubaker7037]

Stray Cat has 2 ability : The first is reincarnating its user ( Tama) in a plant, the second is, when the user is a plant, to shoot air bubble

[@WaldoKrayt]

Hayato could only see stray cat due to him being a physical plant at the end of the day, he can't really see the air bombs and nobody really can except for like Kira when he uses his air as a bomb and even then i don't think Kira can see it, he just aimed in a general direction and hoped for the best.

[@finalseko]

I have a video idea involving some of the biggest JoJo misconceptions. Maybe try to tell the community the correct spellings of character names. Bucciaratti vs Buccialatti, Wamuu vs Wham, Straizo vs Straits, Guess vs Gwess, Avdol vs Abdul, etc. I would appreciate this one, personally, but it might be difficult.

[@fortello7219]

Would you make a video about Feng Shui? Dragons's Dream the stand seems like an evolution of the idea of other supernatural abilities granting stands, and how users may have one but not realize it at first. Because that stand acts in a neutral fashion it implies that the only part of the stand that is unique to its user is the arm rip mechanic. While the main function is universal, like Hammon's breathing. It's up to the individual to master it.

[@DeathG64]

I feel like you missed the detail that Kira was seemingly able to touch the living if he wanted and phasing through them allows them to feel his presence while possibly disrupting his physical shape without focus. Likely because going through a person is trying to use a soul to pass through a soul though in a similar instance he had his 2 limbs still get pushed by a door which wasn't a ghost. They also were making physical contact with things he was passing through at the time they get severed which could explain why they were affected by the door. Still it'd mean ghosts similar to most cases can affect the physical just as much as us but can't kill using force the way the living can. Because energy can't create a physical mass to do permanent damage in spirit/ghost form which is different from fighting spirit. Since Kira shows that he can grab the kid's arm as a ghost but there's no physical damage just a squish meaning he can affect physical things just not to the extent of a stand. Requiring a knife or more to kill his targets meanwhile our only other confirmed non-stand having ghost wasn't exactly a fighter in the first place and was bound as a condition of location. Since if she was looking for her killer and could simply leave the alley she'd find him a lot easier than the main cast of Part 4. Kira also seems to lost his memory of both his deaths in exchange for his time in the alley post-mortem which should be an important addition as it seems to get rid of ambitions when the hands get you just not entirely.

[@PrixtoTNT]

You're amazing

[@ninitehchsnavi5238]

What about Yoshihiro Kira, Kiras dad? His ability of capturing people in poleroids? I assumed to be a stand ability. But that ability is very "ghostly" in nature and I was wondering if this was Yoshihiros stand when he was alive? Or maybe he gained the stand when he died? Although we know he had the stand arrow so i assume he had a stand when he was alive. So maybe the stand was transformed by his death??

[@FourheadWeapon]

If stands are literally peoples fighting spirit or their actual soul, it could explain why ghosts do not have access to their stand. Maybe dying takes away a part of your soul, or lessens your strength to manifest your soul into a seemingly separate object.