Brood War Mass Recall: Protoss Campaign - Part 8

[@Zucadragon]

Dude, always give your health priority, you don't need to apologize for having a hurt back, jeez, you're too nice, stop being too nice :O

[@Incrodon]

I love it when I pick up a cat, and it says "MINERAL FIELD DEPLETED"... but yes, I often hear the probe sound as Meow.

[@6lbs._onion]

I hear "Yeeow"

[@MrGeorgeFlorcus]

I really like the idea of a cat looking up at you and saying, "YOU MUST CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL PYLONS"

[@mrToglovski56709]

My biggest reason why I'm a cat person now is the probe voice line meow

[@zonetropper]

@@6lbs._onion meat

[@poiuyt975]

It also says "moron". ;-)

[@cantoastro]

Re:the last few minutes, Corsairs deal Explosive damage which is only 50% effective against Mutalisks because they are considered Small.

[@micuu1]

@@Blazieth Also why the Valkyrie, which was also supposed to counter the muta, is bad at it. Why they don't do concussive damage I have no idea. It would be fine if they were bad against BC/Carrier

[@hallymiao2825]

The corsairs also indeed do less dmg than bw. In bw, armor takes place before type, so 7 dmg get reduced to 4 by armor, then cut in half to do 2 dmg. In mass recall, type take place before armor, so 7 dmg get cut in half to 3.5, then reduced by armor to just 0.5 @@micuu1 They are bad against BC/Carrier anyways because of how much armor those thing have. So they just end up being bad against small numbers of any flying combat unit.

[@TheHappy115]

@@Blazieth Splash is also worst against air in Starcraft Recall because air units in SC2 spread out very fast (this isn't just about corsairs but in general). Ironically, the units stack very well making splash better against ground. Air Units in SC1 spread out but very slowly and are often less prone to do this when they are attacking something.

[@lost4959]

corsairs in mass recall shred everything in the air, but only if you have like 16 of them and fully upgraded Upd. I was talking about valkyries that are actually good, corsairs are so trash that 16 of them can't even kill a scourge before it hits

[@archsteel7]

Artanis is such a himbo for this entire campaign. "Uhhh, I don't really understand what's going on, but I just want us all to be friends so we can punch bad guys :("

[@GiantGrantGamesArchives]

Rewatched the vod just in case I was wrong and was attacking overlords or something. I was not. There is some weird bug going on. If anybody has any ideas I would love to hear them!

[@battleship789]

Corsairs do explosive damage so they only do half to mutas. Your attacks are at 3.5 vs the mutas 3 armor. Edit: It also appears as though the armor calculation is different than in vanilla SC1, where armor is calculated before applying the reduction due to damage type. So in vanilla your corsairs would be dealing (7-3)/2 = 2 damage instead of the 0.5 seen in the video.

[@imaytag]

Looking at the Wiki corsairs apparently do explosive damage, which is 50% vs mutas...

[@NotHPotter]

The way they've changed the splash damage in SC2 is really not working well with how all this stuff worked in SC1 where the qualitative difference for "explosive damage" doesn't exist. It's the same nerf that makes the reavers so underpowered. Probably means valkyries are borked, too.

[@Qspajer]

3.5 vs smoll , mutas smoll but 3 armor, corsairs suck, carriers one love

[@evie_65]

-I checked using my own copies of mass recall and brood war. Corsairs with +2 attack deal 2 damage per shot to +3 armor mutas in brood war instead of the less than 1 damage they deal in mass recall. Corsairs deal explosive damage so they deal 50% less damage to mutalisks. It looks like in brood war, armor applies before the 50% reduction for (7-3)/2 = 2. In mass recall, the damage is halved -*-before-*- armor applies for (7/2)-3 = 0.5 damage.- edit: Strangely, it's varied whether or not I can replicate this behavior with other units. Dragoons do the correct amount of damage to small air units, but Scouts are doing far less than they should. A fully upgraded scout was dealing 4 damage per missile (8 per attack) against a fully upgraded muta, which is even less than the (17/2)-3 = 5.5 (11 per attack) that it should have with my earlier theory. In brood war a fully upgraded scout dealt 14 damage per attack to a fully upgraded muta.

[@ArtiXKoks]

When I was a kid I used to mindcontrol the drone and play this mission as a zerg😆

[@VegetaLaunchedFinalFlash]

Yes !

[@Snowfireblues]

It's particularly effective because you can plop down a nydus canal exit on their Creep and Ling Rush the crap out of them

[@ChristopherRidge]

I just played this recently, actually. A few interesting things about the Mass Recall version. The biggest change directly addresses your initial point. If you kill everything on the map and then activate the temple, then it immediately activates, skipping the timed defense segment completely. So that's interesting. It also glitched out HARD on me and looped the score screen at the end of the mission repeatedly. I had to quit to the menu to stop it. Still registered as me having beaten it (whew), but I had a solid chuckle because of that. Another funny thing is that the supply limit is glitched. I used to enjoy mind controlling a drone and using a zerg army (mutas, because obviously) to beat the mission. So I decided to do the same in Mass Recall. But the supply limit doesn't track Zerg units separately, like it always has. It's just a max of 200 supply, irrespective of Protoss or Zerg units. Pylons and overlords both increase your supply. But to address the corsair damage issue... I hadn't noticed in my playthrough of Mass Recall, but I never really used corsairs. Does it do reduced damaged to light or medium units, and the muta just happens to fit that description? I'm sorry, I don't have my PC in front of me to look myself, but might be worth checking. :/ Also, depending on how true you want to be with the original game, you can activate the alternate heroes option in the main menu, which gives you Raszagal here. She isn't terrible, with shield/HP comparable to Zeratul, but she has a ranged attack and a few weird abilities. You also don't need to bring her to the temple, so you can use her for the timed segment (if you play it). Don't know how much of a liability that would be for you, though. Also... Take as much time as you need for releasing videos, Grant. Don't rush for our sake. Have fun with the process. It's better for you, and it makes the videos enjoyable. Take care of yourself. Peace. :)

[@calebadam2576]

The muta takes half damage from the "explosive" attack of the corsair since it's a "small" unit, which combined eith the armor makes it take one damage per shot. So... yeah.

[@Supperrman]

The issue with Corsairs is that in Mass Recall armor is applied before damage reduction from size/damage type. So the Sair vs Mutalisk matchup is way worse in Mass Recall than in regular BW.

[@skara7378]

8:52 Thank you, now i cant unhear it. Time for someone to make art of Probe with cat ears.

[@t3ichtaucher]

to me, it always sounds like the probe says "now what" :D

[@evie_65]

In addition to corsair damage being wonky, I discovered that air upgrades for the scout's anti air attack only increase damage against Large units, not medium or small, so scouts are even worse than normal against mutas.

[@Znwarp]

Zeratul realizing that this entire thing is scuffed, and looking for somewhere to post his resume, *Indeed*

[@Garryl367]

Corsairs do Explosive damage (50% to small units, like Mutalisks). Mass Recall appears to have not implemented the SC1 armor calculation, leading to much lower damage. In SC1, the damage multiplier is applied after armor, whereas in SC2, the damage change is applied to the base damage. As such, your 3/3 Corsairs (8 base damage), when targeting 3/3 Mutalisks (3 armor), only deal 1 damage per attack, instead of the 2.5 that they should.

[@snubabubba2745]

The year is 2029... Starcraft 3 has been released... the first mission as the Protoss has us returning to Shakuras... to the Temple of Ofromromjuugaball.

[@tuonios]

Never ever in my life have I payed attention to the sound the probe makes. But now I can definitely hear the probe meowing and it makes me laugh hysterically. Thank you, Grant. You've made my life this much brighter today.

[@MrGeorgeFlorcus]

You see, it all makes sense. Raszagal wasn't being manipulated by Kerrigan, she was just going sensile in her old age. That's why Zeratul became dumb in SC2; his age finally caught up to him in the last 4 years after succeeding Raszagal.

[@AJMSecond]

Back when I was a kid playing this mission, and even afterwards whenever I would play this mission, I would get a drone with a dark archon and max out both protos and zerg with full sunken spore photon. Still, somehow, the zerd would always do serious damage to me over the course of this over one hour long mission. One of my favourite

[@7thAce]

I have never NOT heard the probe as a robotic "meow". Every single time for the past 15 years. Also, for reference, it took 2:58 from the last creep producting structure until the Nexus could be built. In SC1, that time was 4:28.

[@tribalbeat6471]

When I played this level originally, I slugged my way around the entire map clockwise with a deathball of maxed carriers, guardians, and mutas. I didn't know that the bases were going to attack and had assumed they would be some kind of scripted reinforcements.

[@alexyu7749]

2:35 I just realiced, that the Uraj was the Dark Templar power-cristal and Artanis said that he will take kare of it. The cristal with the Templar power was actually handeled by Zeratul. (sorry for my bad english)

[@ph270able]

That would be cool but unfortunately it's the other way around, the Uraj radiates Templar energies and the Khalis radiates Dark Templar energies

[@calebadam2576]

I remember my strategy for this mission was to clear to the temple then construct approximately 7000 photon cannons with some scouts to take out guardians.

[@fare-5174]

Just in case it's relevant, Grant, if you clear the map, the 15 min defence segment is skipped entirely. So it's time to see carriers arrive en masse.

[@HideyoshiKinoshita84]

Guess you missed the video. Grant explicitly said one of the cheese methods was to full-clear the map before activating the Defense section, because the max aggression AI hasn't been turned on yet. He said he didn't want to cheat the level that way and he was going it the real way (also more interesting video).

[@Nathrezim0]

@@HideyoshiKinoshita84 He explicitly said you spend 15 minutes waiting after clearing the map, which is what Fare was correcting him on. I didn't know this either, pretty good stuff!

[@HideyoshiKinoshita84]

@@Nathrezim0 Meaningless, because Grant said he won't be doing that to begin with, so no carriers mass slaughtering the bases before activating the temple.

[@hallymiao2825]

@@HideyoshiKinoshita84 In the original game, you have to wait it out. Mass recall added a trigger to end the mission immediately without the wait. Also, defending for 15 mins is actually a lot easier than clearing out the map in mass recall hard mode. Clearing the map isn't really a cheese, unlike the original game; it is extra difficulty. (You also cannot mind control a drone to build a second army in mass recall, due to shared supply instead of separate in the original). Mass Carrier is basically the only viable unit for clearing out the islands on hard, and the AI stupidity of carriers (and low micro capability due to potato acceleration) frustrated me to no end. (Here is a case of sc2's improved AI actually end up being worse than the bw version for the specific situation.)

[@HideyoshiKinoshita84]

@@hallymiao2825 Do people not understand Grant specifically said he's not going to full clear the map, and is going to do it the regular intended way. Whether the 15 minute being disabled or not in Mass Recall if you full clear doesn't matter because Grant isn't planning on full clearing the map. Also it is cheese because the AI ramps into overdrive aggression with attacks and production once the temple gets activated. If you don't activate the temple, then just spamming mass carriers would be an easier clear (though a much longer and more tedious slow clear) against a much more passive AI. Just because Mass Recall devs added in a failsafe for that happening doesn't mean it was originally intended (as in the original).

[@dayeet267]

Grant, I don't know if you read my comments, but I just want to say I look forward to your videos everyday! I know you have a hard time with your work-life balance, but I just want to say we all love your content! I've been waiting for this video and reloading youtube for 3 days now. Hope your back get's better!

[@hiei49]

Hi Grant, Corsairs are not supposed to be anti small. In Broodwar at lest they do explosive damage (anti big), and they do 5 damage. They should do 2 damage to +3 armor mutas while being +2 themselves ( its (5+2-3)/2 = 2). My guess is that that muta took 2 damage and instantly healed 1 hp so it seemed that only 1 damage was dealt. Another option is that Mass Recall computes the uppgrade different by substracting by armor type first (5/2 -3 + 2 = 1.5), which would be way worse for the Corsair. In any case, Corsair only counters mutalisks if they have similar numbers or uppgrade advantage, or if the zerg just clumped all his mutalisk like they used to do vs terran.

[@pantuternik]

This temple shows up in co-op too, and the mission is called Temple of Unification, which while it might not be the name at all, it would make sense, since you have to "unite" the dark and bright energies to activate it.

[@Etropalker]

The Temple of Unification is a mission on Ulnar though, from the LotV campaign

[@Snowfireblues]

The probe "Meow" is one of the reasons protoss became my favourite race in StarCraft

[@MrGeorgeFlorcus]

Starcraft wiki: Zeratul is 641 years old. *Zeratul in StarCraft: "Matriarch, I have served you for many millennia"* StarCraft Lorekeepers: "A lie. Take it out."

[@wadpigh]

He didn't say Earth millennia. (yeah I know, I must be fun at parties)

[@MrGeorgeFlorcus]

@@wadpigh Little did we know that Auir orbits its host star ever 6 hours

[@lawsontse1545]

They might have spent some time in stasis

[@MrGeorgeFlorcus]

@@lawsontse1545 If by "some time" you mean "the overwhelming majority of their lives", then yes, I suppose that's possible... I think it's a lot more likely, however, that maybe the people who wrote the books didn't talk to the guy who wrote the games, and so they really had no idea the scale of a Protoss's lifespan.

[@CaptnCondor]

All I can hear when he goes “where is my nexus” is Artosis yelling “IT DIDN’T MAKE!!”

[@MichelCarajo]

Mandatory comment saying I love this playthrough and thank you so much for all the content you provide. (Remember Grant, "There is no shame in defeat so long as the spirit is unconquered" :D )

[@dragonhuman6484]

Corsairs deal explosive dmg I think, so thats what 7/2 3.5-3 armour so .5 per hit

[@zhadez10]

yes but Brood War would do 7-3=4 and then halve it for the end result of 2 damage

[@ChristopherCubbage]

Mass recall has been so over-developed in some ways, it definitely has weird quirkiness in it

[@siyahkatre8862]

Hi, Grant. Wish you good health. For this mission 200 supply is hardly enough. How about another 200? You can mind control a drone when clearing the first base. Also zerg static defence is better. You can build zerg defences and production near the temple. For air defence you would have scourge and devourer. Devourers can melt any armor and make corsairs very very good. Lurkers can easily kill zerglings even when they can be seen. This is the only mission worthy of the zergtoss strategy. Please give us that show. Thanks for the entertaining contents.

[@ReaperChi3f]

I love this mission. In the original game I think I once did the challenge and wiped the whole map clean with carriers. In the end I mined the whole map and it took me 3 hours.. The zerg are relentless on this map.

[@orangesouls7112]

IIRC correctly from messing with a unit editor, Corsairs power was mainly from it's splash damage vs stacked mutas. The main hits were weak, but it did something insane like 100 splash damage for stuff directly on top of the target. AI not using micro tricks like a player combined with Mass Recall probably adding additional issues is the likely cause.

[@skeptic_lemon]

You can hear a lot of things in the quotes in starcraft 1. The dark templar says "Soviet" (so be it) and the probe goes "meow" (meow).

[@MajorSitutation]

This is gonna be the most pedantic comment ever but, Grant, it's a "Kakaru" not a "Korakoo" 😄

[@BasedEMT1776]

He also says "ruh-tah-tah" instead of "rat-uh-ta(short a)" like you're supposed to, so there's that too.

[@calebadam2576]

I think I figured out what kind of streamers/youtubers I like, the nice ones like you. Take care of yourself!

[@Kai-K]

I think the reason Zeratul sounds skeptical when he says, "Indeed" is right there between the lines. He's spoken before about her gentle nature, and here again he says he values her wisdom and strength, even though there is something clouding her true spirit. When her response is, "my warrior spirit shall shine before you, and light your path to victory" it's a failure on her part/Kerrigan's part to recognize the meaning of Zeratul's words, and he's essentially agreeing that he's seeing a warrior spirit... which he thinks is different to her true spirit.

[@student76543]

I remember doing this mission by grabbing a drone with a Dark Archon at the first Zerg base and building a full Zerg Army.

[@traversclark4625]

You didn't know? Corsairs Are only effecient against overlords.

[@hangover89]

Temple of Romjubagal is a great name make it so blizzard

[@youbet327]

Karax: You senile fool! Zeratul: Indeeeeeeeeeed.

[@kewu313]

After one hour of trying this mission I decided that 9yo me was wise, just mass carriers And clearing the map before activating the temple put me in an infinite loop of ending cutscenes. Weird bug there.

[@elonstruths1475]

That new interaction for armor and size explains also why zealots and zerglings seem so ridiculously OP in Mass Recall and why GGG keeps being forced to go archon. Archons are the only Protoss unit that does splash without doing explosive damage. The way Mass Recall calculates things, it seems that once a unit gets all its armor upgrades, you can't afford to do reduced damage to it.

[@realLagMaster]

Comment before viewing the video: Grant! You back! Hope you are doing better!

[@shaunock]

I remember cheesing this mission by building a hundred photon cannons around the temple.

[@JessWLStuart]

6:12 For some reason, after you said "Easy Peasy" I heard Zeratul's voice say "Lemon Squeezy" in his typical slightly stilted delivery in my head!

[@RanVor]

You're most definitely not a coward if you decide to clear everything. The Zerg bases in this mission are stupidly hard to crack.

[@efirizaki6457]

If your back hearts you you shoud take2-3 off

[@KD8_NotTheShoes]

I was waiting for you to realize how not good the corsair was compared to the muta, the muta is still absolutely bonkers

[@KD8_NotTheShoes]

Its really hard when the mutas are 3/3 and youre not so i dont blame you for being confused

[@Drexoish]

Maybe the one damage increments were the splash damage from a corsair attack on another muta? When you had the muta selected it looked like the health was jumping down in increments of 4 and 1. 4 makes sense because corsair attack 7 - 3 is 4, with the 1 the splash from an attack on a neighboring muta.

[@Adoak1]

Lol, Grant didn't prepare for the cloaked units

[@FireallyXTheories]

When I played Mass Recall and heard the probe meow I was giddy for like an hour, because I'd forgotten they said that. I loved every moment of it. XD No Razhagal in this mission? :O I always liked how the MR team added her in, because it really solidified her as both warrior and leader. But then again, it's probably good the zombie girl isn't at the head of the zombie apocalypse. XD You'd've thunk that the Kerrigan parasite would've died during this blast and freed Razhagal. It never really made sense how Protoss can't be infested except for Razhagal. If Kerrigan did figure out psionic dominance, I feel like that should've come up a LOT more as a threat. Especially in Wings when she'd had 4 years to improve upon it. :/

[@danpitzer765]

Have you SEEN those Xel-Naga?! We know what the name must be. There's only one thing it could be. R'lyeh

[@sadmi-gonoises2247]

Cthulhu fhtagn

[@Sorenzo]

Definitely meow. Also, your corsairs were hitting the overlords instead of/alongside the mutas, so they soaked up a lot of damage.

[@ChavaYang]

Hope your feeling better GGg!

[@Neo-vz8nh]

I always though the probe meows when i was a child :D

[@NeoGamma]

My favorite thing to do as a kid was stroll into the red base, kill them, mind control a drone, and proceed to destroy the rest of the Zerg with my own Zerg. I basically RPed Kerrigan lol

[@Y0G0FU]

Brood War has such brutal Missions compared to the bast game or SC2.. this is one of many hard ones :D

[@flamerollerx01]

When I played this map, I mind controlled a drone and made* zerg lol.

[@Weigazod]

Can we appreciate how tanky SC1 zealots are?

[@Dinomanion]

Oh man. I'm recovering from a back injury right now. I got to catch up on a lot of your videos during that time.

[@n7citadel147]

Hey grant, i have not reached this video yet but i wonder if you know that hovering your cursor over a unit wireframe can reveal their backstories, they're really interesting to read

[@Orcawarrior2]

Woohoo it’s back!

[@TheHeroicraptor]

Dragoons in SC1 say "Fuck you" when they die

[@bruhhhhhh1]

hope you feel better grant :(

[@Bliss467]

hey, it's nice to see that the campaign is actually hard! the zerg really felt like zerg here; they never let up. the last mission _should_ be hard, no? i'm happy we saw it kick the all-mighty GG's ass his first try so that when he overcomes it, it will be glorious!

[@Epzilon12]

Yeah, probes were always robo cats for me too grant

[@gloweye]

RIP Shakuras.

[@thewafflehead2307]

No one Not even a single zerg or Terran Probes : MEOOOWWWW

[@PeterZaitcev]

Well, Grant, it's not a XelNaga temple, its the XelNaga Temple.

[@luckybuns7628]

Nice! I caught it :D

[@Tower-kn1dr]

Why did zerg not immidlitly destroyed the temple when Prottos started attacking them?

[@poilboiler]

Maybe they didn't know the temple was important or that it was their goal? Dunno. Or the temple charging drives them mad.

[@Luwi1996]

Maybe it just so huge, that they couldn't destroy it in time. I mean in the lotv and coop mission the temple has way more health than a nexus

[@BasedEMT1776]

6 months later, your answer is they are "renegade" or "feral" Zerg. They have no cerebrates to lead them, and kerrigan noped out of there because she wants them all gone. They're just mindless zombies hell bent on fighting at this point, they don't really have intelligence. The temple doesn't even register as a threat to them. It's just a crumbling ruin.

[@Tower-kn1dr]

@@BasedEMT1776 thank you that makes sense.

[@madscientistgamingcentral8689]

You prob shoulda done some static defences to help with the defence and do go with the cheese on cleaning the map before the main

[@brentramsten249]

"i had like 8 of them" correct me if im wrong, but wasnt it was more like six and you lost half of them to spores and hydralisks when you decided that disruption web wasnt good, had them going up against a large number of mutas, and while traditionally splash units are good against any non burst damage unit (which mutas are not)... that is only ever true once they hit *critical mass* , and considering how VERY BUGGED the damage of the corsairs were that critical mass appears to be around **40 - 60** corsairs perhaps this mod requires some patching, or did you always need 40 - 60 corsairs for them to be an effective counter? its been a while since i played brood war....

[@Marcara081]

Mind control a drone. Make Zerg Anti-air. Win.

[@BHMTH19B]

you need to scout a little bit. you got free real estate at far east corner.i usually turtle on the up side and develop only the down base.get a huge army and go for the objective

[@jarrakul]

I just want you to know that whenever I see a defense mission that you can cheese and then just wait out the timer with no resistance, I now hear "but there are some who can" in my head.

[@duncanmcgregor4973]

L O L Grant build anti air. This guy's so easy to manipulate!!! Watch your back! You only have one... Beleave me. :(

[@kealhash]

not sure if its been said yet but corsair with +2 attack does 3.5dmg to small and mut muts are small in mass recall

[@josedominguezmunoz1816]

Yesssss MOAR

[@simonlefebvre2005]

Get a dark archon and get a drone. Also I don't get why people complain when you can't complete a mission. If your back hurts, your back hurts, end of story. Health first

[@Reaper9-4]

hey grant! i was wondering if you will ever do a warcraft 2 deathless or a wc3 repooped wc2 mod deathless campaign? keep up the amazingly fun videos! .

[@goldengolem4670]

Maybe its just me but the fact that they don't name it keeps it more 'alien', like its something else that they don't have authority over.

[@Lord_Kazzak]

For some reason i remember the Corsair to do splash damage with its attack. Am i blind or is that missing too? Also i would love to see the old SC I models being used insteat of the SC II models. That would bring back more of the old feelings than just the missions itself.

[@Vicioussama]

I enjoy this mission :P

[@Vicioussama]

I have always through the probe's meow :P Also, I enjoy mind controlling a drone in this mission to make a zerg force lol

[@Cyber_Cheese]

Take some more days off m8, get well a bit. Considering some of the other insane challenges you've managed, I'm sure you could win that dig video if you wait until you're healthy

[@RobertStrong124]

How could Zeratul have served her for "many millenia" if he is *only* about 650 years old at this point?

[@bachisbacktoblack]

I hope you replay Mass Recall on Endgame difficulty with all the secret mission

[@Kevin-jb2pv]

Man, I'll admit, you're way better at SC than me by a mile. But even so, it always makes my heart ache a little bit whenever you start teching everything up like mad with 4 ground-only units and a mission-critical hero unit to defend 2 bases XD. You play aggressively like you're playing against humans who are starting from the same place as you rather than against a heavily-entrenched enemy with endless resources and stacks of air units just behind the fog of war lmao. Like I said, I can tell you'd own me in 1v1, and you clearly know what you're doing, but still lol.

[@PhaxtolgiaLegacy]

Yeah you got conned, some units clearly aren't working as they're intended. And *PLEASE* stop being so allergic to static defenses! They're actually good in Mass Recall/SC1!

[@HellecticMojo]

Uraj and Khalis weren't that big of a crystal, Why couldn't you just carry both Artanis? Do you seriously only have room for one in your scout?

[@Znwarp]

Also, need to consider, in LotV, he used the temple without the crystals... was he just being lazy here?

[@ironmilutin]

I mean, it's the scout. The fact it has enough room for a pilot is a small miracle in and of itself

[@igorengel7801]

@@Znwarp IIRC, in Lotv artanis mentions crystals, so they probably just left them at the temple after this

[@HideyoshiKinoshita84]

​@@Znwarp Presumably (and kinda obvious) the crystals are still there in some form since Brood War (original effectiveness or status questionable), so they did use them (they just didn't need a whole quest to hunt them down again because they weren't stupid to lose the crystals again, so they just left the crystals in the temple since Brood War). Both times it took time to activate the temple (the LotV one took more time, but it also generated a bigger planet destroying kaboom). If they used the crystals in the temple in Brood War, why would they remove them? The difference between the Brood War and LotV urgency of activation is in BW, it was just rogue cerebrate forces attacking with a partial strength of the swarm, not the full united might of the Zerg wholly devoted to destroying the Protoss. In LotV, it was the full might of a zerg swarm backed up by a large Hybrid army and the planet could presumably also come under assault from Tal'darim and mindcontrolled Terrans as well. In that case, just cleansing the planet of zerg with the same pulse in BW wouldn't work (still have Hybrid, Terran, and Protoss forces to deal with on top of another zerg army just coming to replace the lost one). Losing the planet would also result in Shakuras being turned into a stronghold for Amon (Amon can re-use all the existing Protoss infrastructure), so they decided just to wipe the entire planet to deny Amon a foothold.

[@Wrenling]

I guess the idea was that the Uraj and Khalis were laced with Khala and Nerazim energies respectively, so they had to be handled by the appropriate factions.

[@matthewjoslin6777]

Millenia? Do the Protoss not die of old age?

[@QuestionableObject]

For some reason in Mass Recall Corsair damage is bugged they do like negative damage, in my playthrough I found that Overlord passive regen could counter the corsair's damage its really weird.

[@Talon771]

Random comment for channel interaction.

[@thoughtgaming492]

Asks for ideas but turns comments off???

[@ytdood]

It triggers my OCD when you say Karaku instead of Kakaru >_

[@JessWLStuart]

21:48

[@pingaspwnspiness]

7-3 is 1 just like 4+3 is 5

[@dadpounder4209]

grant i love you but it's pronounced "kuh-kar-oo" not "kuh-ra-ku"

[@Evan-mt7bc]

I really hate that Zeratul outright spoils the plot twist in this mission like, just blatantly and explicitly. It'd be cooler because the plotline is also in the next campaign with a character that doesn't have any Protoss voice filters on them so you can very clearly hear the corruption messing up their speech. IDK overall I think SC1 has a really good story but the BW Protoss campaign is just ouright awful, definitely among the likes of HOTS and Epilogue in terms of story quality.