Giants QB Plan + Marquand Manuel Hired as DB Coach | 828

[@cjlombo]

Top 3 parts of the year for Talkin Giants Senior Bowl Training Camp 4th of July Mailbag Week 1 preview is an honorable mention

[@Thagomizer-U235]

Draft days live! Is awesome!

[@richrucci6908]

Continuously DRAFT in the trenches NYG!!!!! Can't be getting forever beat by Philly & Dallas at the point of attack!!!!!!!!!!!

[@JamesRicci-s4u]

Look at how good becton on the eagles looks at guard compared to tackle. I’m still confused on why they aren’t trying Neal at guard

[@duncanluciak5516]

Can't sit down in pass pro Can't pull Gets beat inside Sounds like a great guard

[@jamelclements9167]

he refused to be moved

[@kjsandoli2692]

Because they don't won't to admit they made a mistake in drafting him as a tackle,but I do agree with you 100%

[@JamesRicci-s4u]

@@duncanluciak5516 hence why I said try. Calm down old man

[@JamesRicci-s4u]

@@duncanluciak5516 hence why I said “try”. Calm down old man

[@dontaejones8492]

Talkin Giants vs The World 🐐

[@DividendDork]

Abdul Carter transforms this team overnight, gives us a sorely needed identity on defense. I’d take Jameis Winston, Justin Fields, Kirk Cousins, etc. any of those types, and draft Jaxson Dart at the bottom of round 1, or take a QB next year.

[@AlterMann57]

I can't agree any more than to give this a big thumbs up! I'd love to see Abdul Carter on the Giants, with Jameis Winston/Justin Field/or Kirk Cousins as the new QB. I'd also love to move up and get Dart later in the 1st round, he could be a good project QB and we can say goodbye to Cutlets forever! Will Schoen do the smart thing? I doubt it seriously.

[@jordanberezin2621]

I’d be okay with this. I’m just nervous about putting off QB you know, no guarantees of position and I worry Dart would just not fall to us. Idk. I do like this option tho

[@cooldude7821]

Carter 100 percent makes sense. Dart in round 1 is ridiculous.

[@jeffreyworthy5384]

Exactly I been saying give me Carter with him and Thibs and Butns all 3 can be on the field same time Carter has played ILB the previous 2 yrs and was very good so in running situations have him at ILB but in pass rush situations have him with hand in dirt along with Burns, Thibs, and Dex

[@nyc_jon]

You want Justin fields on a team with daboll and nabers who want a pass first offense lol such a joke

[@johnsilva5335]

Can confirm we are not live, but recording.

[@tyleraguilar2474]

Dj Reed with Abdul Carter or Mason Graham would make that defense scary af. Offense idk what can fix that tho lmao. At least give us a top tier defense to watch

[@TrollKing2781]

With nothing close to a franchise QB in sight. Fortifying at least 1 side of the ball makes some sense.

[@notadeer3198]

Mason Graham would be huge next to Dexter

[@NOC1TIME]

Appears today. The play making QB is the standard. The athleticism to stretch plays. Call their own number, etc. Get as close to checking those boxes as possible . How many does Fields check?

[@rjharrold2907]

Fully agree with Bobby on what picking Abdul Carter would mean and the offensive line this offseason (I want Trey Smith)

[@EASTW11CKBANDO]

Talkin Giants vs the world

[@rjharrold2907]

Here is something to think about with Depth Justin. When we add great players we also gain more depth

[@tommyg5966]

FA wants for me - Matt Stafford + Jevon Holland + is John Feliciano available for center? lol jk unless? and whatever vet CB. Draft - plan #1 Abdul or if Cle takes him, Travis Hunter #2 trade back for a team that wants Hunter and get some picks for QB next year if this really isnt a "hailmary" then take Mason Graham.

[@maaliemaal1373]

Justin Fields in Dabolls offense is a waste of time!!! Is not a better passer than Daniel Jones, why would this even be a suggestion? If Daboll gives up play calling and lets Kafka go back to his west coast offense, then maybe

[@lilbov8524]

imo. in my opinion.

[@BORNTOLOSEMEDIA]

The Titans GM quote was on a radio show I saw the clip

[@rafaelcasagrande7701]

What about Kirk Cousins?

[@JasMaceExperience]

Sure up the o-line and draft Jaxson Dart in the 2nd round

[@cooldude7821]

Dart sucks.

[@JC-jo5vk]

Rather have Will Howard. Dart is Matt Corral. Remember him

[@michaelantoniotti2738]

Agree....perfect fit

[@andrewchristopher7138]

Hi

[@aml2548]

I would only get excited about next season if we draft carter or a cb and a dt. Lets fix the defense. It could be a good d and if kayvon takes a leap great.

[@BabyBane007]

Can I just say talkin giants is my number go to 1

[@jameshollister8294]

The cross over is MetLife jets next door😊

[@jorgevvrod]

FWIW: - Mac(aroni arm) Jones = 1672 yds 8 TD 8 INT in 7 starts - Fields = 1106 yds 5 TD (5 rushing TD) 1 INT in 6 starts - Cooper Rush = 1844 yds 12 TD 5 INT in 8 starts

[@jorgevvrod]

Idk about contracts but other decent gap filler QBs are: Mason Rudolph Davis Mills Carson Wentz Andy Dalton Joshua Dobbs Sam Howell Jimmy G Marcus Mariota Kenny Pickett Trubisky Minshew/OConnell Tbh I’m not too confident in all those options. But hey Giants got “options.”

[@TrollKing2781]

​@@jorgevvrod Giants gotta sign at least 1. Have no choice.

[@frankiecrocker]

Abdul Carter is the counter to Jayden Daniels. He's the guy opposing offenses would have to worry about on gameday. 2nd round, Jaxson Dart, he has a skillset a bit above Bo Nix.

[@cooldude7821]

😂😅😂😅😂. Now Dart is a better Bo Nix.

[@maggiem6220]

He’s not dropping to 2nd round

[@michaelantoniotti2738]

I'm with Eli. Dark horse Jaxson Dart fits the Giants scheme to the tee and has the size to run like Jalen Hurts. He may climb into the top 10!

[@edmiley9866]

I love Mariota, look at his stats 133 rating. Did he figure it out is he the next geno or darnold? I'll be passed if he goes somewhere else and blossoms

[@Magiknyg]

With the nr 1 pick in 26 draft nyg select..

[@bobcoulon2449]

I have to assume that we will get the number one draft pick next year. So let’s wait on the quarterback

[@cooldude7821]

Nobody gives a $h!+ about your opinion Culo. Though you're probably right.

[@duncanluciak5516]

Planning two drafts ahead is a fool's errand.

[@johnblaze5252]

@@duncanluciak5516so is drafting a qb in rd 1 in 26

[@mattinnj979]

Flacco and Dalton. Two old white guys with rocket arms that will know who will be open, will see the open happening and will rip it to Nabers and Robinson for YAC opportunities and occasionally throw deep to Hyatt on a go route

[@TrollKing2781]

I'm guessing you're a fellow old white guy.

[@arcadeslum5882]

19:00 DeVito is NOT under contract. He is a RFA and should be shown the door. Sign 2 QB vets.

[@ericjackson4948]

They signed him to a 3 year deal and his last year will be next year

[@ericjackson4948]

He’s also the only active QB on the Giants

[@eddie6035]

Listening to these too is like eating some bland unseasoned spaghetti.

[@JasMaceExperience]

Any news on how Andrew Thomas is doing?

[@kevinburke6055]

I want Travis Hunter and a Qb 2nd round but wouldnt mind Carter at 3 either

[@mikec6733]

Best way to "raise the floor" is to trade back.

[@kevinburke6055]

I hate that concept Giants did what u wanted in 2021 traded back got a one the next year They ended up with Toney and Evan Neal the next year how'd that work out? If they had stayed where they were and took the best player they would've gotten Parsons Just take the best player

[@mikec6733]

@kevinburke6055 Of course, it depends on making good selections, but the principle is sound.

[@CleetusTBags]

Cant wait for the draft talk senior bowl shrine game. unfortunately this is my favorite time of year bc we sucked for so long. But i do like the team development part seeing what the future is going to be with the picks abd free agency

[@richardcarter8521]

Go get a QB, (Fields, Russ, Kirk) CB, (Ward, Humphrey, Reed), S like Harrison Smith (to coach the young ones) and WR (Kupp, Godwin, Diggs) in free agency and draft the QB, DT, OL, RB

[@davpowerslave]

Giants still have Mike Adams as assistant secondary coach so he'll assist Manuel.

[@jameshollister8294]

Jared stidham wentz Dabol a Qb coach and they should hire slowic

[@luisattack]

Splurge a little snacks how much could an air bnb cost lol

[@mikec6733]

Maybe the Giants should draft a QB next year instead of forcing it this year.

[@tyleraguilar2474]

36:37 I’m fine with it until I see a 5’10 dude lined up against AJ Brown with no overtop help lmaoo

[@vinnyzan1]

Giants should sign that guy Daniel jones from the Vikings to be our bridge Qb. Obviously that would be insane but hes actually a top back up QB. You guys had to laugh when you mentioned his name for obvious reasons but if we didnt have a history with him it would actually make sense.

[@madebygiantstv]

So we replaced Jerome Henderson with Jerome Henderson makes perfect sense.

[@donnacoulon400]

And don't worry giant fans we are only 4 years away from being a 500 team

[@user-nj1zu2nf1x]

The devil Shane and Gable experiment will take another 2 years to fizzle out. Then they'll fire everyone in 2027 to have a new regime which will take about 3 years to get its footing and so by early 2030s we should have a break-even team

[@swtchgerm5440]

12:38 Jacoby WHO ??

[@macpluto12]

Jets had terrible safeties during his tenure but that's talent wise not on Manuel entirely. I do love Ashtyn Davis maybe he comes with for depth

[@macpluto12]

Jordan Whitehead is ass

[@adverseinperpetuity]

I would definitely complain to AirBnB. They can’t do that lol

[@suckdogofficial]

"Green means good, red means bad" - what if I am red-green color blind?

[@patrickgrove3469]

Hunter would be better as a cb for the GIANTS

[@bobcoulon2449]

If giant fans I think last year was bad, wait till this year it’ll be worse

[@user-nj1zu2nf1x]

There's really no way that it can't be worse if not exactly the same. Unless some magic potion happens they can't buy their way out or draft their way out of this

[@tyleraguilar2474]

@@user-nj1zu2nf1xdid you not see our HORRID schedule. We are getting gangbanged week after week

[@mikec6733]

Taylor Hienneke ?

[@richrucci6908]

Too bad Mara can’t fire himself!!!!!

[@JasonBorowsky]

Sanders or Ward

[@brianjoyce5875]

Can Howard 2nd round?

[@arcadeslum5882]

Bobby wants Abdul Carter but bemoans Kayvon? They are the same crap.

[@TrollKing2781]

😂😅😂😅😂. Only crap here is coming off your finger tips.

[@blazinpyromaniac]

Fields is a great athlete but such a terrible passer. I'm okay with just not wasting time with him

[@TrollKing2781]

So who do you prefer they waste time on.

[@blazinpyromaniac]

@ I’d prefer they take a chance on Mac Jones over Fields. Fields just isn’t ever going to be an accurate QB. He’s going to be a career gadget QB.

[@peterlevantesr.2774]

Oline and Oline and oline

[@bsmith0403]

Why not Antonio Pierce for DC?

[@mikiec483]

TRADE FOR JOE MILTON” SIGN FIELDS or JIMMY” TRADE BACK AND DRAFT A QB WITH THEIR 2ND PICK”

[@THEGoDLiKeMIKE]

I love this show but listening to a facts over feelings podcast makes me feel like we are 5 years away from even having a shot unless we get a miracle at QB.

[@Alex-wx7io]

Fields is just a Daniel Jones clone.

[@cooldude7821]

Yep. But at 10-20 mil a year, taking a chance when you have nothing isn't a terrible risk.

[@TheSteveKinney]

For real. And campaigning for it is wild.

[@NPC8474]

If the Steelers bring back Russ over Fields, the whole fanbase will REVOLT! Many are already pissed that Russ was playing instead of Fields.

[@ninjagamermusic6246]

Let's get a OC nothing matters until offence fix an dumballs prove he's a failure

[@salvatore627]

If the Giants don't get a quarterback in the draft, do you think they would pick Jimmy Garoppolo?

[@cooldude7821]

Giants have to draft a QB somewhere in this draft. That's what happens when a GM has 24 picks in 3 years & doesn't take a swing on at least 1 QB.

[@Thagomizer-U235]

Manuel? The guy that said Pinnock couldn't start at SS, so the Jets signed Whitehead for $7mil/yr and then cut Pinnock over Tony Adam's? At least Manuel knew Pinnock couldn't play FS.

[@EvernhamNo9]

FINALLY IT’S FUCKING KASEY KAHNE FRIDAY

[@Nick-fc9xy]

Fire schoen and daboll then get back to me. This is a waste of time until then, let’s be real. We will be lucky to win 3 games next year. Why not bring Danny Dimes back?

[@laboard21]

Let’s go trade one of true big three who’s going to be overpaid to go 6-11 next year and loose them to injury or free agent

[@TrollKing2781]

6-11. 😂😅😂😅😂. Have you taken a peek at the schedule.

[@jehrup]

Watching the team for over 30 yrs.. protecting the qb has always been the issue… we not a QB away… we need to draft 1 rd OLine men.. 2 round best o linemen available men available.. 3rd best line backer available., 4 rd best corner available.. 5 rd best line backer or corner available.. we need to get the line backer of the future to sure up the middle of the field.. that’s how you help the corners.. we need linebackers and o linemen .. the rookie nabers said it, it’s not the qb.. the o linemen is the key to any team., next is tbe linebacker.,. I really don’t understand you guys that say your giants fans

[@laboard21]

Trade burns or kavon for the rights to Abdul carter do what the Texans did get a leader on offense and defense

[@TrollKing2781]

Nobody definitely ain't taking Brian 8 sacks Burns. Why trade Kayvon at this point. Doesn't really make sense considering you ain't getting much back.

[@laboard21]

I’ll tell you right now dex , Thomas can’t go through this anymore I feel sorry for them and burns isn’t worth the money

[@TrollKing2781]

Thomas is part of the problem because he can't stay healthy. Dex will ask for a trade soon.

[@Gr8Nuzz]

What if the Giants somehow traded for Sam Howell? He’s only 24 and I’d rather get him than most of the guys who are free agents

[@TheSteveKinney]

Facts.

[@cooldude7821]

Joe Shame had DJ at QB & 24 picks in 3 years. And he hasn't drafted a single QB. WoW.

[@user-nj1zu2nf1x]

Wow. What a bum! Imagine being quoted as saying this is DJ's year. So embarrassing this man still has a job

[@nyc_jon]

@@user-nj1zu2nf1xyou couldn’t just cut him and nobody was trading for him. Use your brain instead of emotions

[@user-nj1zu2nf1x]

@@nyc_jon no one said cut him lol just making shit up. BENCH him and sign a real qb not drew locke lmao as a backup plan when you could have Russ for $0!? Lol its ok to be deadwrong guy, like you are now

[@user-nj1zu2nf1x]

keep defending this bonehead. remember this when they fire him and clean house after next season

[@TrollKing2781]

​@@nyc_jon Be quiet Fool.

[@henrim9348]

Jameis Winston? Just coach not to throw INTs.

[@MIDAZSITH]

Mr Mara: the defensive back coaches were fine under Wink. Its the stupid scheme and our dumb ass defensive coordinator!

[@CleetusTBags]

1st floor justin correct who wants to lug shit up

[@TheSteveKinney]

For you guys to bitch and moan about how bad Daniel jones “is” / was… but now campaign for Justin fields…. It’s just peak giants fan base. He is absolutely unequivocally worse than jones. But at best, he is the same thing. Also. There are PLENTY of qb options but for some reason no one wants to talk about it. Matt coral - got injured never even had a chance to play in the nfl. Looked really sharp in training camp. Played well in xfl. Plenty of players from xfl are having success in the league. This should be talked about more. There are tons of backups that you could trade for as a bridge. We already are going into the season knowing that it will be a shitshow - so to waste time dreaming of a high pick rookie coming in and turning the giants into a success is just foolish. Period.

[@TalkinGiants]

Will Justin Fields cost $160M?

[@TheSteveKinney]

@@TalkinGiants I see the point.. and it's a great "gotcha" ... but doesn't change the underlying fact that you're basically arguing to bring Daniel jones back and saying that it's a great option. To your point.. why not just sign Bailey Zappe because it won't cost $160 million.

[@henrim9348]

Why don't you like Drew Lock?

[@DavidReed-q7d]

The giants can hire the best players and the best coaches, they will still fail as long as Mara remains owner. Mara is the problem. Nobody wants to play for him.

[@tyleraguilar2474]

Why do people love Dart so much. He’s not that great and the Giants haven’t shown they can develop QBs so you want a project QB?

[@TrollKing2781]

Because the majority of fans KZbin players highlights & think that tells them the whole story.

[@garcibaby224]

If they decide to draft Aaron Rodger’s I’m boycotting the giants….

[@cooldude7821]

So you didn't boycott the last 6 years with Janiel $h!+ Domes. But you'll boycott if they get Rodgers. This fan base is pathetic.

[@logancruz6172]

lets just sign daniel Jones for 10 mil for 2 year 🤣

[@salvatore627]

How about Jimmy Garoppolo?

[@DividendDork]

Doubt it… the guy is always injured

[@JamesStein-zq1cv]

we need to draft a top Qb or at least someone who has potential to be a franchise qb the time has come do whatever it takes to move up from the bottom of the shit pile time to move on from this shit show and go on in different direction from where we are at!!!!!!

[@donnacoulon400]

I am sure he'll make all the difference and will be a top 10 defense. LMAO

[@anthonypascarella16]

trade a 2nd for stafford

[@cooldude7821]

Pass that $h!+ Bro. 😂😅😂😅😂.

[@tariqs4357]

The Common Denominator b/w the Eagles going to the Super Bowl and the NYG being the Worst team in the NFL, is Future Hall of Famer Saquon Barkley! Tracy Jr behind that Eagles O-Line and the Eagles are not in the Super Bowl, THERE ARE LEVELS, SAQUON IS THE FINAL BOSS!!! I will never forget nor forgive GM Joe Schoen & the Press and the media as a whole for Saquon's departure. Of course the worst GM in NYG history pulled the trigger but there were no serious push back against the mere speculation of not signing Saquon by the Media at all, in fact they CO-SIGNED the B.S.! Instead we heard & read all these dumb A*S talking points like "don't pay the RB's" NOT EVEN A GENERATIONAL RB!??? "You don't have a choice but to pay Daniel Jones" ??? And NOW the talk is the RB position is back!??? WT#BLEEEP??? CLOWNS!!! Monkey see monkey Doo Doo 🙈💩🙈