Gibson Doesn't Care About Its Own Heritage, Loses Another Trademark - SPF

[@TheGuitologist]

ATTN: During the ASK AN AMP TECH segment, I was asked about where to tie the shield of the input cable on the AO-35 conversion amp. My answer was less clear than it should have been. I was confused in thinking the guy was asking which triode he should tie the input to, but he was asking which PLATE to tie the SHIELDING of the input wire to. Normally the shielding wire is tied to GROUND, not to a high voltage PLATE; however, during this build, I was experimenting with something I'd read that suggested using a HV source as a shield, rather than ground. For safety's sake, DO NOT use the tube PLATE as a shield, unless you're doing so at your own risk. In my case, yes, the results are a very quiet input signal, but of course there is more danger involved having HV so close to your guitar strings like that. So again, ENTER AT YOUR OWN RISK!!!

[@laughingdaffodils5450]

The photo you brought up near the end was a band called the Ladybirds. They started about 1966 and performed topless. Not to be confused with a Danish band of the same name who also performed topless in roughly the same time period but had a lot more blonde.

[@rockin_john6282]

Playing close to 50 years. Spent well over $100k but I've flipped a lot of gear and usually come out on top. Probably made more $$$ trading gear in the last 30 years than I did playing shit gigs for 15 years! Almost never spent over $500 for a guitar or amp until the last decade, and still haven't paid over a grand on one instrument, and I've had about every good brand except Martin. Sold some for over 1k though. Never worked retail, just traded locally in trade papers until eBay. Made great money off the pawnshops around here from the early 90s into the 2000s, and the pawnshops became Internet aware. Then the 2008 recession hit, and I've been sitting on a lot of gear for over a decade! I'm about to bust loose and sell a bunch of stuff from the 60s to 90s!

[@blakef413]

For what it's worth, I've experimented a good bit with the 'high voltage shield' method. I believe it evolved from the fact that a positive DC source is also an AC ground and perhaps is in a 'convenient' location on a 9-pin preamp tube. I have seriously good ears and am regarded as a tone snob by fellow guitarists, and I can tell you I can't hear *any* difference, gain improvement, or other tonal improvement between this method and hooking the shield to a good ground- note: *good* ground. So you are risking potentially lethal voltage going straight to your guitar strings with the high voltage shield method and if you've got a standard 68k resistor in series, you won't likely trip a ground fault interrupter- which means none of the fuses or other protection means will save you. So don't do it folks. It's all risk for nothing.

[@estherhaveland38]

so i found a old AMPEG jet II amp ,,in all places on earth in Denmark on a tiny island in the baltic sea ,for sale on our local online used market , it works have tremolo ,here are pictures and the list price bornholmermarked.dk/show?filter=1&id=19857424 it`s really a rarety here have never seen either valco or ampeg in this part of the world before , the price is about 800 bucks... oh yeah i have spent about 4000 bucks over 2 decades on gear

[@jonspecter8989]

Hey man...I responded to a recent video of yours regarding should i shim my strat neck in order to lowerthe action more and if so how thick or thin should I make it..thanks again [e-mail].

[@leeswindle7790]

Amazing that Fedex...who has probably crushed more guitars than Gibson...was more aware of the heritage and value of those items.

[@sinpac6161]

LOL good one.

[@joeman5220]

I don't know. That end loader footage of destroying guitars was quite a lot!

[@PhilipCockram]

" Gibson would poke holes in it and sink it in the ocean " Awesome Brad . LOL

[@goodun2974]

If it had been sunk in the ocean, the navy could use it as an anchor for one of their battle ships or aircraft carriers that doesn't work right and probably never will. The "Gerald Ford" If I remember correctly. None of the elevators that are supposed to bring planes and/or ammunition up from below decks are working properly. So, if we think Gibson is stupid and wasteful, the military is much worse.

[@chrislagrego1775]

Even if Gibson self destructs, no worries... Just go buy a Hagstrom Swede. I have two, and thus have never felt the need to spend the absurd bucks for an actual Les Paul.

[@PhilipCockram]

@@chrislagrego1775 Nice . I like Hagstrom . I had a new LP not long ago and had to return it because of bad static build up . Not going to rub dryer sheets on it like Gibson suggested . LOL . I have a vintage Epiphone LP that plays and sounds great .

[@user-ww3js8ci7d]

“Gibson would probably shoot holes in it and sink it in the ocean” Gibson: Wright that down wright that down!!!

[@JustPlayingBass]

What I worry about is that when I die, my wife sells my kit for the price I told her I bought it for

[@MrSparks54]

I hear that brother!

[@mercster]

HAHA. Just come clean in your will.

[@scotttait2197]

That's everyones fear

[@bakstabbath]

I've easily spent $12k in the past 5 years lol Beats blowing money on drugs and drink. 👍

[@jasong546]

That’s my thought process too!

[@bakstabbath]

I've been there and done that. Buying gear is much more satisfying.

[@lookhere8800]

I understand ya, I own, Two very early " Gibson: Custom Les Pauls, 68 Melody Maker, 67 EB3 Bass, " Plus, My 68 W/ Strat, " I sit pretty.... " The rest. go's into " Silver an Gold ".. For a piece of mind.... ;")

[@gregmerritt9366]

Hell, buying gear has helped keep me from soaking in drugs and drink.

[@jerryweber1768]

I'm an addict too, the same way guys.

[@chrisdurante2544]

I cant tell you what I have spent over the years, my wife might see this!!!!

[@tomk1tl]

Ditto here....with building amps, putting 'axes' together, pedals, more guitars/amps, etc., I have only been playing seriously for only three (3) years and spent close to $5K.........I'm 74 and still have a ways to go !

[@argkampfhund]

"The Ladybirds were a five girl nightclub band that formed in San Francisco in the mid-1960's and were infamous for performing topless."

[@continentalaquatics2725]

Chris Rowe I had an ex who played bass topless because her tits kept getting in the way.

[@DBCisco]

Most "trademarks" should never have been granted in the first place. In other news, Gibson is suing God over the Hummingbird.

[@mpccenturion]

Actually - Gibson was suing the "Angels" - and while on the stand - the "Angels" said that God was responsible. Gibson - seeing a bigger pot - on God's side - decided to dismiss the "Angel" suit and refile against God. So far - there has been "No response". lol - I just find it funny. On the other side -- I am sorry for those who have lost jobs or had to defend themselves from this - in my view - low brow harassment.

[@flatusvocis.]

Huge respect to FedEx for doing the right thing.

[@stivendog]

More music lovers at FedEx than Gibson lol

[@TheColonelKlink]

Whatever Gibson may have been in the past is long since gone.

[@IntoTheMystery13]

Idk the new ones are looking pretty good

[@peepongdingdong9208]

Into The Mystery ⓭ Yeah the 60’s les paul looks nice. I have been eye balling the Sg with the sideways vibrola.

[@pierreroge608]

Spent as a musician: round 20k, as en engineer, add 40k - age 52

[@real_fjcalabrese]

Gibson: Love their guitars. Can't stand the company.

[@scarmyguitar]

Brad, you are the man. Was not expecting to hear you mention our channel! Nice surprise while watching! Thank you sir! An yeah, Gibson are some real dummies! lol And the surfin bassist made me laugh!

[@Jointlock]

Gotta tell you Brad, I've been watching you for some time, and I want you to know how refreshing (and appreciated) it is that you just say it as you see it. No BS, just what you see and think about it all. I also like how you present your thought process and arguments to back-up your statements and opinions. Good work my friend!

[@TheGuitologist]

Best compliment I’ve gotten in a while. That’s what I try to do. I’m not presenting my opinions as anything but an opinion. I know a lot of people hate me for it, but if you make it all the way through life without pissing some people off, you haven’t really lived.

[@donstewart368]

Heck I've spent $7000 in the last two years and I've been playing since the early 60s. Np telling how much I've spent. I know I spent most of my money on booze, women and motorcycles, the rest I wasted on guitars I guess.

[@paulcaton7093]

Your Gibson rant had me laughing out loud. It was spot on.

[@prd004]

10,000 a lifetime? That's a decade for me

[@mzarich]

prd004 sounds about right for me too.

[@photopicker]

I dropped 10K on 1 acoustic. I have been through at least 60 guitars over the years.

[@KTKoma]

That's about my average too, maybe even more in a couple decades.

[@13vansman]

Age 50, I've been playing since I was 14yrs old. I've easily spent over $60K.

[@ChrisD_GTR]

heres a rough tally. Rogue bass : ~130 usd Peavy BXP 5 string : 290 usd Squire P bass : 200 usd Squire J bass : 200 usd Behringer bass amp : 350 ---------------------------------------------- then i switched to guitar because i found it more fun------------------------------------------ Fernandes HH+FR super strat [used] : 250 usd blackstar fly 3 watt : 55 usd epiphone les paul [used] : 250 usd total price= 1750 usd over about 10 years. but i had about a 3 or 4 year hiatus between bass and guitar

[@bensavage4575]

When I go into the guitar shop, I point up at the Gibson's and say "Ah they're the ones you're supposed to snap and smash up...

[@elymolloy8333]

If its a real gibson it'll break on its own eventually, right at the headatock

[@kenjimac2211]

Just a note on the fuse plug holder the guy mentioned about on the Marshall amp. Over in the UK, the plug that goes into the actual wall sockets has a 13 amp buss type fuse in it. Every plug over here uses a fuse at the plug, be it anywhere from 3 amp to 13. This is for what is called a ring circuit. As the wires in the actual plug cord rated well below the normal main circuit breaker of 20 amps. I have seen them blow, have failed in understanding why they blew unless it was caused by some sort of current spike because everything seems to be fine after replacing. A simple lamp circuit as an example, you have a 40w incandescent bulb that has been fused with 3 amps in the plug. You do continuity test and ohms test, nothing wrong with any of it. You blow the fuse, replacement of the fuse was all that was needed. Very strange stuff man.

[@TheGuitologist]

Shitty power delivery.

[@kenjimac2211]

@@TheGuitologist , I agree man.

[@malcolmhardwick4258]

Not sure how much I spent but my GAS is telling me 'not enough' !

[@randydueck889]

I tell my wife - buying guitars is an investment, not an expense! I doubt Fender pulled the $10,000.00 number out of their @$$ - probably cost them a million for the market research to get that number.

[@xyz8655]

6:00 its like Universal allowing the film used sharks from JAWS to rot away in the back lot while the movie was the original summer blockbuster making $100M + in 1975.

[@tomjones239]

Jaws scared me so bad I wouldn`t even go swimming in a creek.

[@TheGuitologist]

Or UMG sticking all those tapes in a building and letting it burn.

[@KenSilvers]

@@TheGuitologist I was mortified by that one, I know they did it intentionally to erase our history... It's really happening.. the people of the future will be stupid slaves.

[@goodun2974]

@@tomjones239 , Jaws Was inspired by a true story of 4 or 5 people being attacked by sharks or a shark in New Jersey in the early 1900s. Speculation is that it was actually a bull shark because one of the attacks took place well upstream in a muddy swimming hole attached to a tidal river where it was pretty much fresh water, and bull sharks have a high tolerance for fresh water.

[@Dman85612]

Concerning the ice trays,if you are using a tray to hold parts for a build you can , if you cant finish the build that day or if you have to order parts , wrap the tray in saran wrap and with a sharpee mark and date the tray and store it easily .The nice thing the wrap does is prevent spillage and possible loss of parts .It also works great for creating trays of salvaged parts from a junked p.a., guitar amp, or other electronic device.

[@Pilotltd]

Some of the new Gibsons need stomping on! I've had three in the last two weeks that are just 12 months old for fret problems. All had loose frets that had become uneven and were sticking out the sides of the neck. I can only put it down to the wood wasn't seasoned or dried properly when they were manufactured and they shrunk. Perhaps they should have bought Martin's old kiln....

[@JamItJohn]

Very nice of you mentioning Paul Barrere passing.

[@Dirge4july]

I’m 33 and easily 10 grand. I started playing when I was 14 . Hell, in the past two years I spent 5 grand on gear.

[@user-ei9ns9hq6b]

Gibson is gay

[@Nomadicsage1]

That's almost as much as I've spent on Cocaine while playing guitar .

[@Dirge4july]

@@user-ei9ns9hq6b Really? i always though they were pan-sexual

[@aaronhuisinga2531]

I'm almost 41. I started playing when I was 15. In that time I've easily spent $50k on music gear. Between guitars, basses, amps, drums, keyboards, mixers, lights, speaker cabs, pedals, outboard gear, cables, stands, strings, drumheads, sticks, etc it adds up quick.

[@alswisher]

$45K give or take in my lifetime - I guess I'm above average (in spending only; my play still sucks a little)

[@KenSilvers]

I don't drink or gamble... I don't play very well either. I've spent on pedals 2K, guitars 4K, amps 2K, mixers, drum machine, P.A., Speakers, 3K... That's eleven grand, and can't play but two songs.

[@jasonbates2687]

nice opening pic of Tal Wilkenfield

[@JackTheRabbitMusic]

jason bates she's dope. 😏

[@bjerkely12]

Age 35, been a player since 5 years. Spent around 3K so far on gear, and spent 10K on beer while using this gear. Loving it :)

[@rmy3918]

FedEx unlike Gibson has a Soul : (

[@TheGuitologist]

Really says a lot.

[@mrsockmonkey1969]

Dude Fedex has wrecked more guitars with their inept handling practices than gobsin ever did lol.

[@eugenemcleer8407]

I love the irony that FedEx said, if you want this stuff, come pick it up!! LOL

[@Cultural_Supremacist]

@@eugenemcleer8407 OMG I didn't even realize that! ROFL

[@bestplans9051]

I'll take UPS or USPS over FedEx anyday! Their overnight shipping is a joke at best and damage wise, wow. You'd better be ordering steel blocks and they'll still find a way to F them up!

[@tedgay8427]

I started buying good gear in LA the mid-90s when I got my first grown up job at 23. This is just before the internet and vintage boom. The major steals; From The Fret House in West Covina, a '73 Vibro Champ $150 (clean), 50s Tweed Champ $225 (ragged but sounded excellent). West LA Music 1962 Fender Brownface Pro $500 with blown speaker (worn, inventory stickered by Gold Star Studios) Used Jensen speaker from The Fret House, installed, $60. Ontario Pawn 1978 Gibson SG "The SG" $375. Ontario Music 1986 Gibson Les Paul Standard plaintop $1000. 2nd Ave Guitar, Upland, 1970s Partscaster Fender Telecaster Custom $1200. Barter with Dad's house painter, parts/labor to get his truck running so he could leave my Dad's house, $750.00, 1960s Gretsch Jet Firebird with Bigsby. After Y2K, the prices shot up. All totaled in the last 25 years about $20K.

[@Wade6242]

Like the intro pic of Tai Wilkenfeld. Saw her playing for Jeff Beck.

[@michaelivan9066]

I have spent way more than $10,000 but after a while it is more horsetrading vs spending, You get to the point where if you really want something you get rid of something else.

[@bayougtr]

Yo Brad! Those old prescription bottles make hell of a “road case” for glass slides.

[@Skyward23Fpv]

Im 20, playing for 14 years, spend around 9 grand till now, I bought a Gibson few years ago I loved it so much, but now hearing and seeing what Gibson CEO is doing I just bought another fender, love it! Great channel! Subscriebed.

[@Eddy63]

Tried the ice trays for storage but sometimes it takes over an hour for my parts to thaw out ... My question to you is should I turn my freezer temp up ? ... Lol ... Good SPF vid Brad ...

[@eetechtom]

Eddy 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@haplozetetic9519]

FYI! Any time there is a DSL100 on the service bench, check the 16 ohm output jack. Look to see if the ground contact looks as though it has become hot at some time. If so, it will look darker than the rest. Even if it isn't dark, plug into a 4 or 8 ohm output and gently poke the ground contact on the 16 ohm jack. If the output crackles or sounds like static, replace the jack. The 16 ohm jack cuts out the 4 and 8 ohm jacks when the 16 is used. If the contact goes bad, it can cut out, blow output tubes and stress the rest of the output section.

[@jamesthe-doctor8981]

Before I comment on the video, let me just say that you should feel free to begin every SPF from now on with a photo of Tal Wilkenfeld. Thank you.

[@Toby678]

Second that! Crazy good AND gorgeous. Life isn't fair... :-)

[@jamesthe-doctor8981]

@@Toby678 yeah, she's cuter than a monkey with a puppy.

[@goodun2974]

At 5:30..... My sister used to live in ( rent) an upper floor of a 3 story house in Providence Rhode Island that was formerly owned by a couple that were friends with numerous bands and apparently were promoters of many of the local night club shows. The basement wall in this house had hundreds of signatures from various musicians, lots of blues and blues-rock players in particular apparently stayed there in the basement of the house rather than having to pay a hotel bill. If memory serves me correctly, folks like James Cotton and James Montgomery and Freebo, Taj Mahal and the members of NRBQ and other blues-rock players in particular had autographed the wall. It was a concrete or stone foundation wall as I recall, but this was a long time ago and I don't know if it might have been painted over by now. I hope not!

[@vaporofdeath37]

way to go Martin & Co!!! I am going to go look at what I can buy of yours

[@z20000z]

I am 58 and was a "serious" player in the 70s and 80s, after that, just played as a hobby. 10-12K for amps and guitars is currently my number. If you add a couple of recording devices, a sequencer, synth and drum machine, probably pushes that total up to about 16k. We are talking 1980s-90s prices for the most part though. So glad that you are still doing SPF!!! It is something that I always look forward to. Thanks Brad for the great content!

[@jamesmaxwell5415]

100k easy. That’s what I was able to remember😂.

[@dadgad1046]

I got a email from Gibson with huge ad for Direct Sales from Gibson. Free shipping, free case, free setup and lifetime warrenty. So much for them giving a shit about their dealers... Dealers can't offer that.

[@norithmusic]

Never, never ever will we support gibson . What goes around...

[@alabamahebrew]

Who is "we"?

[@user-ei9ns9hq6b]

Jews run Gibson what else do you expect?

[@eaglewarrior8707]

I got a Gibson sg-x for 300$ in 98. It was made in the Michigan factory I think.

[@norithmusic]

Ron Just Ron my family and I. There “you” go.

[@norithmusic]

ALenaFan Page Never, never ever buying and Gibson Product. That’s how you support a brand, artist, company you like, Believe in.

[@philguitar1]

Great post, I could not agree more about how you feel with Gibson. The frustration with this company is unbelievable, who is running this circus? How disrespectful to the heritage of a once top class company and employees past and present. I worked for an international chocolate manufacturer for 36 years, and when they closed the factory where I live(in the UK) they opened a museum where they placed every thing from old machinery to all the memorabilia they could find, to preserve the legacy and respect for all past and present employees. Shame on you Gibson. What a tragedy.

[@iggrut]

Im 26 and i think ive spend about 7000€ So.. If I dont visit the 27s Club, there will be much more to spend.... :D

[@vaughanmacegan4012]

I am not an outlier and I question that figure as well. I would estimate that I have easily spent probably $20,000 (in my lifetime thus far) on lessons, guitars, recording gear, other equipment and there is more to come like a Kemper stage and a couple more guitars and even more lessons. I'm not young but I can't think of a better way to spend my money and feel good about my situation.

[@StillLivinginthewoods]

Hell, I probably have $10,000 worth of crap in my music room now,... and I only own mid-level stuff. $10,000 over a lifetime is a lowball figure, especially if you have any recording equipment as well.

[@TomTobin67]

When a GC in Chicago decided to move the store to the burbs, they PAINTED OVER an autographed wall of guitar celebrities (one was SRV). GRRRRRR!

[@TheGuitologist]

Doh!

[@petersmart894]

Newquay..pronounced "NEW KEY" cheers.

[@mordokch]

used to live there - it's very nice :)

[@spookybaba]

The Americans always have trouble with that one. Worcestershire, too. 😂

[@mordokch]

@@spookybaba And Morecambe !

[@TheGuitologist]

I almost pronounced “Warwick” as “Warrick”...does that earn me strange Brit pronunciation points?

[@mordokch]

@@theoriginaldylangreene about 1994 - 2000 - it was a lovely spot then. I worked at sunnyside holiday camp (security) by night and surfed by day :)

[@barnabyaprobert5159]

What kind of a moron doesn't trademark an unusual guitar shape?

[@TheGuitologist]

Expensive.

[@lexluthier8290]

In my lifetime, nearly 60 years......? Jeez, probably about....a house. :-/

[@runout57]

Hey Brad, I wonder if the reason they left it behind was that the bankruptcy court would not allow them to deface the building by taking down drywall and signage.

[@y007p3]

That’s Tal Wilkenfield at the start isn’t it? Babe.

[@y007p3]

Minister Louis Farrakhan of the Nation of Islam he’s a bit good isn’t he 😁

[@photopicker]

@Minister Louis Farrakhan of the Nation of Islam She did play with Jeff Beck and I saw her on one of his tours.

[@dennismorgan2230]

I’m 52 and have probably spent 15-20k on gear. I started playing bass when I was 17. I really didn’t play bass much anymore but in the last 4 years I have gotten into putting together and promoting fundraising concerts. My PA is constantly growing lol. Love the channel Brad! Keep up the great work!

[@12ARedSon]

0:06 demonitized. Thank goodness for shitpost Fridays!

[@markgabriel3015]

Hey Brad, I recently acquired an old Gibson GA-20 I believe, with what appears to be all original electronics. What do you recommend replacing? Caps and tubes? It fired up and played it for a bit but it started to crackle pretty bad and I shut it off. I have pics of the amp and wiring diagram but I couldn’t figure out how to post them. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

[@markbundy1694]

Gibson Dumb!!!! New Term for Derelicts....Big D Guitars is a GREAT KZbin Luthier Channel, Dude Rocks The Whiskey Barrel Guitar World..

[@jenniferwhitewolf3784]

Guild started making 335 'shaped' guitars of better quality than Gibson in the early 1960s, the Starfire IV, V, and VI. Seems to me if it was so all fire important to protect that shape by lawsuit, Gibson had their chance nearly 70 years ago. Screw them... it is way too late.

[@scottbaxendale323]

Gibson can’t go out of business soon enough IMO. There are way too many new guitars being made and enough good used guitars for every guitar player to own a dozen at least. I’m also in the business and sometimes spend over $10k over the course of a month or so, but I sell much more than that so I wouldn’t fit into the study.

[@jasonbray9217]

Spending on guitars, hmmm bought my first elec in '79 a real Fender Tele $150 (girlfriend was unhappy i spent the money broke up with me, I traded it for a Hohner acoustic i had for years was great) Bought my first LesPaul a real Gibson in '80 for $375 at Freedom guitars in SanDiego (I had no idea wtf to do with an elec guitar sold it and left town to chase a girl) Bought my second and well almost last Gibson Les Paul in '81 for $350 ( played that thing for years until i tricked myself into trading up for a custom guitar, the LP was really heavy) found an Alvarez Tele/Strat style in a used shop in the late 90's, a good friend Larry Brooks was living in town and doing repairs( um yea that Larry Brooks) that day before I bought it I asked why is this cheap guitar so good, it played and sounded great! he said you know 10k guitars come off the line in Korea, one or two are really great (oh and the best guitar builder in the land set it up). um yea $175 for that one (I just gave that guitar to a friend to play , yep gave it) I like that Alvarez so well I started looking for another, tough to find, but with the internet starting to have used guitar warehouses selling I found a real Stratstyle Alvarez in Kentucky, yep , $70 uh huh, $85 with shipping, got here I adjusted the truss rod for fun, finest guitar I ever played, just sweet and unbelievable tones, took me a few years to even find another one for $225 for a stage back up. What is not really really talked about with guitars that regular folks can afford is the role that local luthiers play in having anything worth a darn, I am very fortunate to have one of the best in the world live 10 minutes away. It was interesting to hear you talk to Carvin's son, and then Dean is actually a good friend of good friends of mine, but those guys deliver guitars ready to play, set up and ready, imagine that mr. Gibson , $5k for a LP in MusiciansFriend. I will finish with this, my roommate a couple summers ago was into those Chinese kits you could buy, and was trying some Tele's messing with finishes and wiring, one day he is showing me the website and there is a guitar on the side, an Les Paul with no headstock shown, it was beautiful for $225, WTF i sad well for that I can check it out, (I had no idea about the whole Chibson scene) so i ordered it, you can imagine my utter shock to open the box and find a perfect Gibson copy, well mostly, after a visit to the tech it plays like butter, I didn't even change out anything, wtf for the cheap stuff worked fine for someone who can actually play. I asked my tech about it cause I was dumbfounded, he said yeah Gibson gave the specs to the Epiphone guys who actually make Gibson guitars, ( oh yeah that's right that's a secret, Gibson's are all made in China) anyway once the had the CNC specs, somebody just pushes a button and out pops a guitar, if you don't know about CNC, well if you got the right one you can make space shuttle parts or a replacement heart for your mother, that's how accurate they are. Anyway I digress, as far as spending $10k in your lifetime, I got kids, I ain't had or never will have $10k to buy guitars, that's why I am glad cheap guitars can be made to work, hell I went to the Keisel site to support them because the goldtopish single cutaway is fucking gorgeous, but I don't have $1500 to spend on a guitar. Anyway it is a nice daydream that guy at Fender is having. peace In the MiddleEast Brad. ;-)

[@daveanderson5680]

IDK if Gibson doesn’t care....however I think Gibson’s top management is inept....same goes for Fender

[@graxjpg]

For whatever reason, we’ve got the same weather in south Texas as they do in Cornwall.

[@GScott50]

'Newquay" is pronounced like 'new key'. Just sayin'...

[@continentalaquatics2725]

GScott50 Not anymore!

[@continentalaquatics2725]

Rick Partington We’re not gay and that is why!

[@continentalaquatics2725]

RicTic66 No!

[@gregaltenhofel7326]

I'd visited and toured the Memphis factory just after the two new guy's bought the Gibson company. I shocked, rattled & made the tour guide stutter (a craftsman take turns being a tour guide, I'm told) when I asked about the Bankruptcy. There was another question I asked and I can't remember now. He said he'd talk to me after the tour. He didn't stop freely and I had to about chase him down. He explained, the new guys and how the employee's were all excited. Things they were going to stop doing that was loosing money (a lot of electronic things). Honestly I don't remember him telling me they were closing the factory. Perhaps he did. Oh the other question they were packing up a literally a ton of grand pianos. I forget the brand. They had been sharing warehouse space and were moving out. Guess I was getting one of the last tours they made. OH AND I'VE SPENT IN 50+ YEARS WAY MORE THAN 10 GRAND AND HAVE SPENT NEARLY A GRAND IN THE LAST MONTH

[@henrys3629]

Fedex kicks/toss your package and preserves history. "Glibson" kiln themselves.

[@mikesavage0]

As far as the guy with the dsl. I have a dsl40 that does the same thing. It's a proprietary eeprom chip for channel switching that goes bad somehow. Seems to be fairly common and the only way to get it fixed is for Marshall to send the part to a Marshall qualified tech. Super frustrating. Dunno if that's the problem, but it might be.

[@gregdoran5850]

Your not an average guy Brad! Most likely all the people that watch you are not the average. We spend way above the average! And love it!

[@seniordh500]

I'm starting a little late in life.. I'm 55 and due to my son's death. I picked up guitar in stead of the bottle..again .. I just purchase my first fender strat deluxe. So there's a 1000 lol and a few hand me downs and building my first strat build.. lol. And mine you.. all in six months ! This guitar has saved me.. Love your info .. I'll be fallowing 👍

[@TheGuitologist]

Dude, I don’t know what to say, except you are a stronger man than me. God bless you, although I’m sure right now it probably seems like there is no God. Keep picking. The answer is in there.

[@seniordh500]

@@TheGuitologist thank you very much for your kind words. God bless you also..🙏

[@TheMichaelseymour]

i have a behringer nutube 60 watt vintager amp , with jensen speaker (stop snickering ) ,,,,played it at clubs , and had great remarks ....its sounded fabulous...however, it cuts in and out intermittently , anyone know why ....?

[@GearGasms]

One last comment, if you have pedals on the DSL 100 fx loop and they are not powered - ie no batteries or adapters plugged in, you will get that tiny audio output. It’s happened to me and scared the shit out to me - but power was cut to my pedal board brick.

[@mptachenko]

Years ago I chose to buy a vintage 1940 Epiphone Deluxe over a L-5. Even in the vintage market there is better value in quality of construction, tone and cosmetics! I do own two Gibsons. A 1936 L-00 (enough said) and a '59 RI Les Paul from 2000. The Les Paul is a great guitar but I did gut the electronics for better sounding pickups and higher quality pots/caps. It was a "Historic" guitar but it still needed upgrading. Go figure!

[@erickleefeld4883]

Another great thing about Martin donating that kiln to a college: The students who learn on it might develop an affection for the Martin company itself - and maybe want to work there later on, in the wood-drying department. Isn’t that better than just throwing the thing out?

[@hitekredneck109]

This is such a shame. I love playing my lp studio which I bought new in the mid 90's but the Gibson companies actions are just unacceptable. I will still enjoy my studio as it is just a part of me but holy geez......I will never purchase anything new that says Gibson on it.

[@DBCisco]

The "ES-xxx semi-hollow" is little more than Les Paul's (under Epiphone) "Log with Wings"

[@Peasmouldia]

As a roadie in the 70s I was quite frequently in the "green room" (the size of a bathroom) in the Marquee Club on Wardour St. In London. The tongue and groove paneling on the walls was covered in signatures and graffiti by every imaginable turn. Often wondered what became of it. Ta Brad.

[@devilspalm16]

In regards to the $10,000 figure quoted by Fender, I'd say he's not too far off. In my case, I'm in my late 20s and one of my first musical instrument purchases was a $600 Rogers drum kit back when I was 15 or so. But over the years, I've bought another snare for it, multiple cymbals, multiple pedals, etc which has put my investment in that specific instrument to be around $1,000 I reckon. When it comes to guitars, I first bought a Fender acoustic for $150 back when I was 17 that I still use and I've primarily been a fender guy for most of my life since they have a wider range of guitars for lefties at that point in time. Since then I've bought two brand new Squiers for $300/$400 this decade, and the rest of my guitars/basses have come from used market aside from a Schecter 5 string bass I got for $600 new in 2016 that's my current go to bass. But when it comes to spending money on buying guitars, I haven't cracked the $1,000 ceiling yet on buying a single guitar, though I've come close to it! Then there's the usual pedal addiction that many peers in my generation have, which I know I've spent at least $2,000 worth over in the last decade, and I'll add around $500 for music accessories like strings/mixers/midi controllers, etc. And when it comes to amplifiers, other than a really small bass combo amp by Orange, I've been using this early 2000s solid state Vox that I got for $150 used that I absolutely adore for its clean sounds that I've had restored/repaired at Uncle Sam's Jams here in Louisville at least twice over the years. So, if I was to total everything up in a rough estimate as far as guitar set up/mods/amp repair bills, that's another $500. Which leaves my total investment into music at around $7,000 over a 10 year period or so. And that's from being a multi-instrumentalist! If it wasn't for the fact that I'm a lefty, I probably would have at least twice the amount of guitars I currently do, but since I like to demo gear before I buy it usually, I don't like pulling the trigger on buying a guitar unless I either know I'll like it, it'll be available new for a limited time, or it's a truly rare/one of a kind instrument that has historical significance.

[@donlang7964]

Just a thought for you guys wanting to get away from your Gibson purchases...In 1963/64, John lennon was quoted out of context, deliberately, when the Beatles arrived at Cleveland/Hopkins Airport, early sunday morning. While most families would've been at sunday church/mass at that same time, in that era, 4,000 ppl, mostly young girls, showed up and screamed for them as they debarked the plane from New York, to play Cleveland Browns Stadium. The mis-quote was: "They'd much rather come see us than go see God!" It made Headlines in alot of big city newspapers across the nation from that!! I was enrolled in Catholic grade school, at that time, about 7-8 yrs old. The next day, one of my grade school buddies (who was a big Beatles fan) told me about ppl getting together to burn all their Beatles records, dolls, lapel pins, magazines, rareties and ect., at a big bonfire, being organized by one of the AM Radio Stations in town, rallying everyone to join in and burn memorabilia, which kind of went on for weeks, after. I asked him if he had lost his mind. He looked at me as if I had lost mine, saying the Beatles and their junk had no right to be near God loving ppl! I said, "My old man would throw me into the fire as well, if I burned what he had worked hard to earn the money to buy that stuff, even tho I had earned the money doing chores, ect...!!" Then, years later, as the Beatles got so enormously popular, everyone forgot about all of that!! Do yourselves a favor... Things and events have a way of going in cycles, turns, aboutfaces, turnabouts, ect... And if you STILL really, really really can't abide the Gibson "lack of heritage" thing going on in this current group of beancounters, then, I will buy all your no longer loved Gibson Guitars, Amps, Devices and Accessories!! Of course, I will offer pennies on the dollar... I mean, they've lost all their credibility, right? It all disgusts you and need to get it out of your sight, RIGHT??!!! ROFLMAO!!!!

[@TheGuitologist]

I said I didn’t think Gibson gave a shit about it’s own heritage. I didn’t say I didn’t.

[@123spleege]

True story, I was in a traffic accident in 2001 and got a modest settlement on my 73 MGB and minor injuries......$24,000. Got the check in the morning, had cashed it by 1pm and was in guitar center in San Francisco by 5pm. I spent $17,000 in one day and could bearly fit what I bought in my gutted 68 Bug. I was a roofer!! haha. Lifetime... I have to be in well over $150,000. Largely due to the fact I inherited a large sum of money....that's another story!! haha. Bills paid=0, musical equipment bought= a novel's worth.

[@TheGuitologist]

Cash windfalls are proven to worsen the effects of GAS.

[@vwestlife]

Make that "... *Its* Own Heritage..." -- no apostrophe!

[@z20000z]

PS, pricing example...I had a Valley Arts Strat made for me at the California location in 1983, before the fire and their subsequent move to Nashville. At that time, they were using Warmouth necks and bodies. I asked them to install a Kahler along with Seymour Duncan pickups (HSS), and custom paint. Serial number: 98. Price with case: $1,300. It is still a great guitar, but has not increased in value.

[@LightningDogg]

I haven't really bought any high $$ "name" gear in a long time. With the quality of 2nd tier stuff nowdays I like to see what I can get on the cheap. Usually it's good-great quality for a fraction of the $$. That being said, all my Gibson, Fender stuff is now "vintage" and worth 40 eleven MILLION dollars! Make me an offer.👍😎

[@valuedhumanoid6574]

In Order: 1. RIP Paul, will get my old Little Feat vinyl out this weekend. 2. Framus is making guitars that Gibson could only DREAM of making. I got the Phil X model (one of my fave musicians) and it is such a great sounding/playing/looking instrument 3. Well done Martin, I too shall reward your good will 4. $10k over a lifetime? I blew by that number in 1988. I am probably near $100k by now 5. That water temp in the UK this time of year is about 45° F. That dude has his Man Card punched for life

[@lucyfuir6386]

I have spent roughly 15 grand (90% I still own) just on gear. Probably 5 or more on cords, strings (bass and guitar), lesson books, stands, straps, picks etc. I also have friends who have spent hundreds of thousands if you count just what went out not in, none of which they still own due to constant trading and selling. So how much actually is out of pocket?

[@ScottPaine]

At the moment I have $17,500 worth of guitars, amps and gear sitting in my house at the moment. I'm sure there are things I'm forgetting about like cables, misc. pedals and pickups. This total is NOT counting gear that I have bought and sold over the years. I don't like thinking about the gear I have got rid of. I still have the first Gibson Les Paul that I bought new back in 1996. I did sacrifice an Epiphone flying V and an old Charvel from the late 80's (with the crackle paint job) that I bought used back in the early 90's. I kind of miss the Charvel but it was sacrificed for a good cause.

[@Santiagoalva24]

On guitars only, perhaps 40k, but I have a stainway piano which is worth about 45k. I think considering all music gear about 150k

[@flybynight1929]

I toured the Memphis factory when I was in town for business once, we just happened to be staying across the street. While waiting for the tour, I spent some time in the showroom. It was appalling from a guitar tech stand. Guitars that were priced in the thousands with bowed necks and old strings. That left quite an impression on this guitar player.

[@fireantsarestrange]

What is surprising is that Gibson is in the headline news and media in general discussion enough to lift them up but.... nope.. they lose popularity. Sad.

[@fnersch3367]

I spent at least 300K on instruments in the last 60 years, mostly on keyboard and fretboard instruments. I am a collector, builder, and restorer. Still doing it in my 70s.

[@codywhite96]

Rickenbacker 4003 brand new in 07-$1400, 1964 Fender Bandmaster head-$800, 1966 Fender Showman Head and Cab-$800, 1972 Fender Bassman 100-$600, 1978 Peavey Mace head-$400, Peavey Classic 212-$165, Epiphone Les Paul Standard-$600, Non Reverse Thunderbird II Copy-$900, Non Reverse Firebird I Copy-$300, Squier Bass VI-$400, Epiphone G-1275-$1000, Epiphone Sheraton II-$500, Epiphone Casino-$450, 1967 Fender Coronado XII-$1350, Epiphone Gold Top LP Standard-$350, 2 Fender P Basses-$1000, 2 Fender Jazz Basses-$1200, 3 cheap guitars-$300, Various Pedals-$1000, Strings/cords-$1000 so far... Wow, something I've never thought of until now. It adds up fast and this is only the last ten years or so. No Gibsons yet...I guess I'm not playing authentic:)

[@charlesbolton8471]

Cody White You’ll only be “authentic” when you trade those Epiphones for actual Gibsons. That Rickenbacker and those Fender amps are pretty AUTHENTIC though!!

[@ziggylayneable]

I started playing guitar in 1985.Right now I am 46 years old.I would guess that I've(so far) probably spent at least 10 grand(likely more),but I have bought and sold and owned,had,traded & flipped so much gear over the years it's hard for me to pin down an exact number,but it's definitely $10,000 plus...

[@Metalbass10000]

The Flying V has been built by countless companies, large and small and everything in-between, in the style of the Gibson (as opposed to the, "pointy," more aggressive, more metalized V shapes) since the time of the first builds. So I can definitely see the obvious logic in denying the trademark that wasn't filed, nor actively defended, for decades. The Firebird shape is less of a commonly built shape by other builders, but again, they didn't file, nor did they actively protect, the trademark of the body shape. Focus on building high quality instruments, using the best materials, utilizing sustainable practices, and being a good corporate citizen. Otherwise the younger generations will leave them behind. Many people of all ages have been so irritated and bothered by Gibson's decisions and practices that Gibson has already been left behind.

[@FloridaManRacer]

Simply because I've always bought on the cheaper side, I'm at about $1,800 total at 35 yrs old so....I'm ahead of the curve I guess? -Alvarez acoustic - $250~ -Fender 12 string acoustic - $275 (dealer was a close friend and sold at cost) -Line 6 Spider V $99.00 (I was in high school gimme a break) -Ovation Celebrity - Free (Brother gave as gift) -ESP LTD F-50 - Free (On trade) -Fender GDO 300 - $285 *Fender Champion 20 $99 (Damaged in water leak) *-Fender Champion 40 - $299.99 (Free with insurance claim) *-Harley Benton CST 24HB - $186.00 +$32.00 shipping (B-stock) *-Harley Benton D-120 CE NT Acoustic - $78.00 + $32.00 shipping (AMAZINGLY GOOD FOR THE PRICE) *-Harley Benton RB600CS "Rickenbackerish" - $208 + $32.00 shipping (Can't think of a single bad thing about it) *-Harley Benton Fusion II MN FBB - $275 +$32.00 shipping (Just got it, loving it) *Currently owned.

[@dlunsford1980]

Being a Memphian it makes sense that FedEx would care more than Gibson. Fedex is born and bred Memphis and cares about the heritage of this city. Gibson was just a visitor and treated their stay here just like most when they leave the city with wheels blazing. Bye Felicia!

[@SixString_J5]

In my first 4 years I spent nearly $5,ooo on gear. My bands never panned out out I shunned the instrument for nearly two decades while turning to pot and alcohol. In that nearly 20 years that I didn't spend a dime on guitar, I spent easily $100,000 on tobacco, pot, and alcohol. Now I'm pot and tobacco free and dramatically cut back on alcohol thanks largely to being back at the instrument. I typically only buy one bottle of bourbon a month for around $30... but coincidentally, I spent at least $3ooo per year on gear. All in all, I'd say im in the $15000 range in gear purchases over my lifetime but i'm only 36 and really only have less than 10 years of active purchasing.