Valerion VisionMaster Pro 2 - Best Projector I have Ever Tested

Рет қаралды 12,900

Күн бұрын

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@t_stein Ай бұрын

Awesome review, love your space, and thank you for actually showing how you have the projector setup. Excited for my pro2

@samyeefarooqighulamdastagi5927 Ай бұрын

I just booked mine today. Probably one of the last guys to get the Kickstarter discounted price as i pledged 5 mins before time expiration. This by far the biggest electronic device purchase I ever made. Hopefully this is as good as the reviews indicate.

@SaabUnleashed Ай бұрын

Funnily enough, a projector was my biggest electronic purchase a while back. This Valerion is great though, you won't be disappointed

@Jason-hx9pu Ай бұрын

@@SaabUnleashedhi Saab, I’m wondering if you think I should buy the Visionmaster pro 2 now with the 14% off discount or should I wait down the line once it comes out?

@SaabUnleashed Ай бұрын

@Jason-hx9pu I have no idea. I think they'll probably let it go to full price for a while because that's the only way discounted prices would make a difference

@jefv6785 Ай бұрын

Im jealous... haha enjoy it!

@samyeefarooqighulamdastagi5927 Ай бұрын

@SaabUnleased I have a cheap screen from Amazon pinned to the wall. Does it really matter for this projector if i have a dark room setup in basement?

@SaabUnleashed Ай бұрын

You have less than a week to get this Projector at the Kickstarter price!!!

@davemils8910 Ай бұрын

Hi you may want to double check the mounting options as apparently the only area these can be mounted from is the single screw in the middle. The other 2 aren't connected to the chassis

@TheFirstRealChewy Ай бұрын

Just saw a comparison with the C2 Ultra. The C2 looked a bit brighter with more punch, but the tone mapping looked better on the Valerion. That said, you likely won't have both and either one in their own should look great.

@SaabUnleashed Ай бұрын

I really love the tone mapping on this projector, but I agree with your comment

@carloscouteiro Ай бұрын

that review of comparison with is C2 is joke and biased.

@TRX25EX Ай бұрын

@@carloscouteiro towards C2 or Valerion?

@Joe-hh8gd Ай бұрын

So how was the 3D performance compared to others? And what settings are included for it?

@CunnazZ Ай бұрын

Ha when your go to guy for Android head units, pops up with a review for the newest projector I backed... What a small KZbin world. I was waiting for you to install it in the car bahahah

@tailee3028 Ай бұрын

I want to use either this fresnel screen from valerion which is 1.8 gain or the vividstorm lenticular ALR screen which only rejects light from above and below, not from the sides and that one is 0.8 gain. Since I will use in a living room with white walls and ceiling, like yours, do you think the low gain screen with better viewing angles but less light rejection from the side would be better? Because this projector has to be at max brightness to use EBL and everyone is saying it is crazy bright on small screens like 100". Would the 0.8 gain be better? I'll only watch at night with lights off but there will be room reflections.

@MrIrongoat Ай бұрын

Can you also provide some feedback on the viewing angles? Did you have orient the screen in a particular way because you ceiling mounted the Valerion? P.S. hey ya Tai

@glennr9913 Ай бұрын

Nobody seems to have compared or reviewed the lower models. Are they not worthy of recognition? What's the deal?

@Leo-qy2hi Ай бұрын

Great review

@michaelafonso835 Ай бұрын

Can you project directly on white wall or needs a screen??

@SaabUnleashed Ай бұрын

You can project onto a white wall, but if all you walls are white, the reflected light will reduce your contrast a bit

@micheled6819 Ай бұрын

Which screen material and brand do you have?... model please... @@SaabUnleashed

@walterverbeeck6929 Ай бұрын

The king of Lifestyle Projectors? :') You should review the Leica Cine Play 1.

@francismedina4547 Ай бұрын

Grey ALR screens really affect the brightness of the picture. Matte White brightens the picture and makes the color more accurate.

@SaabUnleashed Ай бұрын

In my experience, white screens also negatively impact the contrast

@stevenlawrence2232 Ай бұрын

Yes. But it's an extra expense not included in the price..

@Louis_Mazzini Ай бұрын

Another day, another gushing non-critical review of the Valerion. However good or bad this thing eventually turns out to be, there's no faulting the company's excellent blitz of willing KZbin reviewers! I'll remain cautiously optimistic that it might be quite good - but it's worth noting that I don't recall having previously seen DLP rainbow effect captured on video so well..! (Edit, I did enjoy this review, but I do think it's healthy to retain some scepticism.)

@DLPHomeCinema Ай бұрын

Yes this and many other videos are not critical but there are several critical reviews if that is what you want. Lookup Projector Junkies reviews of both the Plus 2 and Pro 2 for example. If you read those you will see they are incredibly in depth and took weeks to complete. You can also lookup Projector Junkies KZbin channel to see him lighting up a 320" commercial cinema screen which is quite impressive. I speak as one of the Valerion beta testers that has had this projector for several weeks now - despite the unserious nature of some of the KZbin content this thing is the real deal.

@SaabUnleashed Ай бұрын

I get what you mean, but I will say this is the best projector I have personally tested and I have quite a few other laser projectors. The Hook Up does a great comparison video where you can see the difference against other brands if you haven't seen it. Regarding the rainbow affect, that is going to be related to the incompatible refresh rate that my camera was set at during recording, it's actually pretty bad watching it back. When you're sitting in front of the screen, the rainbow affect is nowhere near that visible

@Louis_Mazzini Ай бұрын

@@SaabUnleashed Fair. I'm genuinely interested in this thing and think it would be superb if it lives up to all the hype that's been building. Happy to go on record saying I'd be surprised if it does - but equally happy to be proved wrong. On the rainbow front, I admit that I'm especially susceptible to seeing them and have never seen a single-chip DLP that wasn't plagued by them, but I know people who have never seen one ever, even on DLPs from twenty years ago. Anyway, if Valerion's final retain version is a fraction as good as their ability to get this thing talked about, then they're on to a winner! Cheers.

@DLPHomeCinema Ай бұрын

@@SaabUnleashed welcome to the world of having a Valerion. I have been attacked from all sides for liking it.....

@TheFatihtekn Ай бұрын

I believe all the tests are using a special ALR screen provided by Valerion. Might we be disappointed if we can't achieve the same quality with our regular screens and walls?

@SaabUnleashed Ай бұрын

ALR only helps if you are using the Valerian in a room with ambient light, or a room with light coloured walls that will reflect light. In these circumstances, and brand of long throw ALR will be fine. In a dark, light controlled room, you don't need ALR

@micheled6819 Ай бұрын

@@SaabUnleashedclear... but can you help me to buy an arl screen?... 120 down motion versante up... the budget it is not a provlem for now

@000jammy Ай бұрын

hi there, can you say how good or not this is projected straight onto your white wall without the screen?..i'm curious if it will be too bright or not as I have a similar setup. I have backed the pro2 but thinking whether the plus2 would work better.

@OwenL2020 Ай бұрын

Any projector thrown onto a white painted wall is going to lose sharpness detail and contrast. Regardless of the projector you’re always better off with a dedicated screen.

@justinbralish2880 Ай бұрын

There is special paint you can use that I have heard work pretty well!

@DLPHomeCinema Ай бұрын

Did you hang the screen upside down as recommended for ceiling mount??

@SaabUnleashed Ай бұрын

Hanging the screen upside down just impacts the viewing angle. Like this, the screen displays brighter images when I am standing, and slightly dims when I sit down. The opposite happens when the screen is the right way up, it is dimmer when I'm standing, but when I sit on my sofa, it is brighter.

@SaabUnleashed Ай бұрын

It's worth noting that I am only ~2.5 metres from the screen which is probably designed for larger rooms. If I was sitting further back, it would likely be better

@DLPHomeCinema Ай бұрын

@@SaabUnleashed gotcha, just asking because I have same screen and they told me I should hang upside down for ceiling mount. I have only tried in my bedroom so far with Valerion on a shelf.

@DLPHomeCinema Ай бұрын

@@SaabUnleashed I measured the gain on this thing over the weekend and came up with 2.05. I am getting near 500 nits off of this screen with Valerion Pro 2.

@Flatsteff Ай бұрын

Question: The Max has an IRIS like old Lamp Projectors. What is it for? It has Laser, so the Laser should be dimming, why do they need an IRIS? It there no Laser Dimming? If the Laser is able to dimm, what does it do , if the pic is all back? Does it turn off? I love that in the EPSON Projectors. Sitting in a tital dark room after a jumpscare is crazy :D

@justinbralish2880 Ай бұрын

The Iris will make the contrast in dark scenes even more dramatic. It will reduce the over all light by reducing what is let out.

@frannyfranman Ай бұрын

What brand of ALR screen are you using and how bad is the laser speckle? Passable?

@fin1645 Ай бұрын

He talks about laser speckle at 6:30

@Jeal0usJelly Ай бұрын

I always liked them more than the Targerien

@kuvakertomo Ай бұрын

Is this the Fresnel ALR screen that can be added as reward for Kickstarter?

@SaabUnleashed Ай бұрын

I believe it is

@kuvakertomo Ай бұрын

Thank you for quick response. I backed for the same screen and Max. Did you install the screen upside down?

@SaabUnleashed Ай бұрын

@@kuvakertomo no I didn't , but it is a long throw screen

@kuvakertomo Ай бұрын

Setup looks good 🤩. I am very interested to know if there is an optimal vertical angle/height for projecting on this screen.

@SaabUnleashed Ай бұрын

@@kuvakertomo So I actually projected from two locations. One with the Projector on a camera tripod directly behind my sofa, and then on the ceiling as you see in this video. I did not witness any difference in brightness between the two locations. HOWEVER, it is worth noting that viewing angle is a thing, and to get the best out of the image, I have to be sitting on my sofa. When standing, the screen is darker. You suggesting rotating the screen would actually be an interesting test, but then I wonder if it would be darker when sitting down and brighter when standing :D

@OwenL2020 Ай бұрын

What does IMAX mode actually do?

@briankrohn7482 Ай бұрын

Lens memory for $3000?

@jianzhizhang8333 Ай бұрын

Would this be suitable for a grading suite? I'm thinking color and contrast accuracy, calibration, DCP playback and Resolve?

@xthegamerpilotx Ай бұрын

Nice review. Do you think is important to have a ALR screen with this projector or could be enough with a matte white screen? Thanks.

@SaabUnleashed Ай бұрын

I touched on this a bit, this room is painted gloss white, which is not great for a projector room, so the ALR does help here for contrast, but the ALR screen does cause laser speckle. If you have a dark room, you won't need ALR

@charlesgraham6522 Ай бұрын

How bad is the laser speckle if you don't mind me asking? I think a lot of people are trying it gauge if the valerion ALR is worth it or if the speckle gets insane with 1.8 gain. Do you have any close up videos or shots of the speckle? Thanks, really appreciate it :)

@brucesmith1754 Ай бұрын

Does the use of Keystoning and Digital zoom disable 3D mode, EBL or Dolby Vision?

@SaabUnleashed Ай бұрын

No it doesn't impact any of those. Just the latency

@brucesmith1754 Ай бұрын

@@SaabUnleashed I guess you are referring to the gaming latency. Is it really bad?

@SaabUnleashed Ай бұрын

@@brucesmith1754 not at all. It goes from 4ms to 8ms as I mentioned in the video

@brucesmith1754 Ай бұрын

@@SaabUnleashed Wow. Thats still 2-3x's better than its next closest competitor in the lifestyle category. Amazing! Thanks! Great review, Buddy!

@Draw777arq Ай бұрын

PLEASE HELP ME, I AM BUYING THE VALERION, but I don't know which screen to buy, in the space I have I think a 132" one can fit, even a 150" one, but they told me that the 132" one has no seam so I think it's the best option but I don't know which one you recommend please

@micheled6819 Ай бұрын

I m in the same condition... which screen in a medium daylight room?... about 120 ... i would like to know the brand and the type material better for the pro 2... on the marketing i see a.lot of brand and a lot type... cumfused...

@jkl89966 Ай бұрын

Nice 👍

@jdavid1801 Ай бұрын

All reviews conclusions: ❌Best "Lifestyle projector" ✅ Just Best projector

@jackhapfli6896 Ай бұрын

Did you see rainbows?

@SaabUnleashed Ай бұрын

No rainbow affect at all from my perspective

@nicolashuray1356 Ай бұрын

I see some in the scenes of the James Bond

@SaabUnleashed Ай бұрын

@@nicolashuray1356 I just watched it back to see what you mean. I think that is related to the difference in the refresh rate between my camera and the projector. When sitting in front of it, that's not visible

@Y4k407 Ай бұрын

Can this be used at 4 1/2 meters to use on a 120” screen?

@SaabUnleashed Ай бұрын

I'm not using all of the optical zoom, there's a fair bit left, so it can certainly be mounted further back than the 3m I have it at. 4.5 might be too far back for the optical zoom and will take you into the digital zoom

@Cenkolino Ай бұрын

Nah...UST projectors, like the Hisense PX3 Pro, are better, since they dont lose brightness due to the sheer proximity to the screen. Yes, UST screens are more expensive but they are usually better in quality as well. And the rainbow effect on this one is horrible. Look at James Bonds face @8:12 and forward...