Gil's Arena ERUPTS Debating KD vs Steph's Legacy

[@dascoli34]

They be agreeing with each other and still find a way to argue about it 😂

[@dwightyawg7781]

They switch up when they realize they’re agreeing 😄

[@a.b.theman]

Man I be confused af

[@mccoy6910]

Cse Gil n shad just be listening to respond Kenyon da only nigga dats actually listening

[@waynebrown7733]

😂😂

[@ParlayGod-f2s]

Why there great for podcast they doing what's the point which is to discuss from all viewpoints but yeah its funny haha

[@nathanielrichards3494]

I literally wore hoop shorts under everything I had!!😂😂😂

[@Don_ZelleThaCreator]

Now they hoop in boxers

[@parrishlavellcarter4578]

Gil- “Fuck Ray Allen” Ray Allen-“what you saying fuck me for”

[@onewaytelv6785]

*50cent voice* 😂

[@jamariuswilliams6755]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@jaybaker1968]

😂😂

[@bo0gi3]

time stamp?

[@onewaytelv6785]

@@bo0gi31:17:40 😂

[@DCThaFashionGuru]

“FUCK RAY ALLEN!!!” Lmaoooo I died 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@m2a6n0o0]

He meant that 😂😂😂

[@rianeagan2693]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 poor Ray Allen catching HUGE strays

[@DCThaFashionGuru]

@@rianeagan2693 major lmaooo

[@gillyblank4380]

Hahahahahahahahahha

[@straightup660]

Gil called “my name is in the show title” today.

[@FreshSteppaKD]

Y’all can’t skip the fact that Kd was up 3-1 on them and then joined them , that’s the point

[@PirateD.KingLuffy]

Warriors were up 3-1 and lost too so that argument is goofy

[@johnwaldo6758]

@@PirateD.KingLuffy not it’s not both teams choked blowing a 3-1 lead is not normal 🤣🤣🤣

[@PirateD.KingLuffy]

@@johnwaldo6758 but they still lost and folks keep forgetting that. A 73-9 and team lost which showed in the playoffs they not beating bron again if they didn’t have kd

[@vintagemonte]

suddenly no one remembers “73 and they lied”

[@therealtonyason]

BINGO‼️ ima okc fan and he coulda went to the cavs and i wouldn’t have gaf but you gon join the arguably best team ever that we could’ve easily beat???? and he wasnt great games 5-7 either smh but yea that’s the whole point on why he gets the blame and not them

[@Triplethreatgod]

When Rashad smile he look like Baraka from Mortal Kombat. TELL ME IM LYING!!!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@EarthalienCS]

😂😂😂 wylin

[@jamesmims2918]

Facts 😂😂😂😂

[@mcboone6203]

I can’t stop seeing it now 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@4fizzlebaby444]

Crying😂😂🤣🤣

[@Nikko392]

😂😂

[@LastGift]

I need Swaggy P and Mccants on Every Episode man 😭😭😭

[@hugh-jasole]

You mean Swaggy who just laughs and mumbles the whole time😂 yeah that's some insight he contributes

[@imoh182]

⁠@@hugh-jasole it’s his style he still spit facts yo ass want him to talk like Morgan freeman

[@LastGift]

@@hugh-jasole yes the swaggy p who’s more successful and obviously a hella of a lot more likable than you. He adds comedic relief not everything about insight. Relax Mr IQ

[@hugh-jasole]

@@LastGift Don't forget to zip up when you're done

[@hugh-jasole]

@@imoh182 yeah I loved in his last appearance when he said "shee ma Dabba Dan sheit scubida can"🤣. Swaggy has lots to say

[@dnative93]

The point is OKC wasn't far off beating Golden State. Golden State wasn't far off beating the Cavs. Draymond had to miss a game and game 7 was as close as it gets. Literally one shot with Ky. So KD joining the Warriors would be if Bron joined the Celtics with KG, Pierce and Ray Allen. KD was weak for that move. It is that it is.

[@dontaerussell3397]

Draymond was weak for calling KD, Klay, Steph Dray and management was weak for goin to recruit KD to join them, but somehow you can only take fault with KD.. weak shit😂

[@nicyee3701]

@@dontaerussell3397Lol, so you just want them to ignore getting someone that would take them over the top. For what exactly? Fairness. KD is the chump because he chose to go to the team that bitched him the year previous.

[@vonyewest]

@@nicyee3701& KD supposed to ignore the opportunity to win championships & be the best player on those teams. Make it make sense

[@Justjo3223]

What's so different them him joining the heat...to beat the celtics..

[@nicyee3701]

@@vonyewestYes because he fucking lost a 3-1 to them. Curry was also the best player since he took most of the defensive attention letting KD work off of 1 on 1’s. Now does it make sense? You don't go and join the team that just beat you especially when you were up 3-1 and choked that 3 games with the Thunder.

[@brianbanks8570]

Gilbert hates the Warriors and is jealous of Steph!! Keep it 100 Gil!!!!

[@Kobiyashi77]

Jealous? You guys just say anything lol.

[@shockwave2376]

@@Kobiyashi77i swear but they just curry fans so they scrambling right now not even realizing he ain’t even saying nothing that indicates hate he just stating facts but the message floating over their heads they thinking he’s shxtting on curry 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

[@Kobiyashi77]

@@shockwave2376 yeah fr lol i was so confused reading this 😂

[@atSlickBoiChris]

@@Kobiyashi77😂 they say anything.

[@XhunterWolfX]

Need dat Kenyon :"whats hannenin, jack?" to start off every time

[@XLHoodie21]

Dwade publicly said he called Lebron to come to Miami after Kobe won his last championship 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Traylormade_Chief]

Nobody ever says that. But they do say Steph and Dray went to KD. Lebron haters never say, "well, Wade called Bron." Never ever. It's always Bron created a super team. Sounds like Wade created the super team.

[@devorembo]

Do you understand the context? The Heat lost vs the Celtics, Wade already had a ring. The Warriors lost to Bron and called KD after the game. Wade called Bron because he wanted to win again, not to beat the team that beat him.

[@stefanbocage4977]

​@@devorembo curry call kd cuz he wanted to win again jus as what dwade did with lebron 😉😉

[@TheKing-im6uu]

@@Traylormade_Chiefhe called Bron yes. Lebron still agreed to go and get another all star as well

[@Robo92783]

​@devorembo steph beat james and won 1 championship before kd came over

[@TheMrflyguy11]

Gil, Unc come on man. The same way you sayin steph won the 1st ring cause “the soldiers were hurt” is the EXACT SAME as Steph only lost in the finals cause “they suspended Dray”

[@shockwave2376]

Yeah then why not run it back is what he’s saying they went calling for kd.. I think that’s all he’s saying they knew cavs had their number and just wanted be miles above.. i think that’s what a lot of you guys in the comments aren’t getting.. if cavs recruited someone then yea but they had the same team so why get kd if they felt superior? (Steph is great btw but that ain’t the argument and stating facts ain’t taking nothing from curry) they would of 3peat if klay and kd didn’t go down part of the game.

[@rianeagan2693]

True but also K Love didn’t play the WHOLE series and Ky only played 1 GAME. Dray missed 1 GAME because of HIS FAULT. They could’ve closed game 7 AT HOME WITH DRAYMOND (who had a fantastic game 7). It’s just different context.

[@supakev6308]

They suspended Dray and then lost a starter to injury the following games

[@jaliancasey5409]

@@rianeagan2693Draymond showed up and showed out for game 7 and they still lost 😂

[@Book.of.Treason]

They were up 3-1 and draymond only missed one game there's no excuse to lose 3 games consecutively in the finals

[@doriankelly5795]

Them not understanding true shooting percentage is funny asf they sound like old heads fr🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀

[@dontaerussell3397]

Nah, more like it's a bullshit, made up stat

[@FxcetheRipper]

U are one of the dummies they was talking about thinking u know more than a nba player. They understand what it mean, Gil saying it's bullshit. Which it is

[@HoopsRaccoon]

Ts% is not useful in a lot of scenarios. It’s an overused stat only by guys who don’t hoop. I have never brought up ts% in a hoop conversation.

[@DurhamBull919]

This "stat" has always been around like the rest of them ? 🤔

[@HoopsRaccoon]

@@DurhamBull919 ts% combines your normal fg% and weighs your 3p% and ft% into one stat, I forgot the equation but you can google it . Usually someone is a very efficient and highly effective shooter and shot maker if it’s above 65%. It favors people who shoot triples more and have high ft%. It’s really a pointless stat: it demonizes people who don’t shoot triples as much or people who can’t get to the line. So unless you’re a star player who’s a guard, this stat most likely never leans in your favor. Efg% is better. I don’t think ft% should ever be factored in with fg% because one you’re being guarded and one you’re not.

[@JeremyWilliams-vk5ns]

That big brother analogy fucked shad up fr 😂

[@davantefrancis39]

That shyt didn’t even make sense if I beat my big brother azz im not goin to get that ngga 😂🤣🤣🤣

[@therealtonyason]

that shit was weak too the big brother owes the lil bro loyalty, kd didn’t owe warriors nothing they was enemies who okc was really better than but choked, i woulda cooked gil weak ass analogy lol

[@leelove4184]

Facts lol when he realized he was really agreeing with Gil he tried to smooth backtrack lol

[@leelove4184]

@@therealtonyasonbig brother can’t fight all of little brothers battles for him, little bro need to take his lumps and learn how to throw hands on his own. Big bro can’t save him from everything….

[@NiGlizzy3]

facts😂😂.. that shit sent hun for a loop. he killed his whole argument with that😂😂

[@gr33nl4nt3rn]

Thing I hate about these debates is it always leads to diminishing one player in favor of the other. Steph has accomplished more without KD, but why tear down KD? He is a regular season MVP and a two time finals MVP in his championship wins. But then again, I guess we gotta have spicy arguments where people yell over each other lol

[@TomTom-lv8ns]

@gr33nl4nt3rn The boy Quitter Arenas is jealous of Steph after every big Curry moment he comes up with bullshht hypotheticals and the same KD Steph legacy debate to get his shht off Im pretty sure his son's favorite player is 30 and him being the narcissist he is that drives him crazy so here we are once again. THey literally have talked about this at least 30 times since this show started I knew after Steph stole the Olympic show they was gonna be on his helmet

[@OnlyMorale]

Your 2nd paragraph is the point to why KD got all that heat, THAT’s what gil doesn’t understand!..

[@hugh-jasole]

@@gr33nl4nt3rn so you want a boring back and forth it sounds like? Thank God you don't program any TV

[@aiii5932]

@@OnlyMorale exactly ! They both looked bad so it's crazy kd gets crucified more just bc he left, when he was sought out by them

[@EarthalienCS]

KD still better than

[@oluwatobierimako9291]

Honestly gil really hates Steph and the warriors at this point… I don’t get the statement he’s trying to make…. Kd wanted to go to the warriors and the warriors wanted kd it’s just simple… you guys are conveniently forgetting draymond green got suspended and iggy and Andrew bogut got injured…. If you’re saying Steph beat an injured cavs team then lebron beat an injured warriors team.

[@brianbanks8570]

Not to mention Steph hobbling on that knee! Remember he couldn’t play in those Olympics because that knee was fucked up!! PERIOD!!! McCants was supposed to ride harder against GIl and not bitch up!! Gil was hating and dead wrong! Steph was the best player( before ya try to argue it he was the Unanimous MVP) and rushed back on a grade 2 MCL !!I Or Lebron, it Wasn’t KD… Steph could barely move laterally that whole playoffs!! His efficiency during those 2016 playoff games gives this away!! Keep it 100!! I’ll never respect Lebron after he cried to the NBA for a stimulus package to suspend Draymond!!!!!!!

[@ghosting6723]

Blah blah they draymond was there in game 6 and 7 they still choked

[@Wisestomatoe]

Draymond played game 6&7

[@oluwatobierimako9291]

@@Wisestomatoe Ik he played 6/7 bro could’ve been a gentle man sweep if he wasn’t suspended for 5

[@Wisestomatoe]

@@oluwatobierimako9291 but he played 6 and 7 ….

[@divinep1912]

Dat man Gil mastered the click bait controversy Game cause now he just say anything 😂😂

[@DurhamBull919]

"Dat man" ?

[@vincentbrown3995]

Any damn thing. Said nobody watched the french guy play, just because he didnt

[@MishaDolla9682]

Gil ass tweakin why he actin like if somebody recruit you you have to sign ? Do he not remember KD was either gone stay or go to spurs or clippers 😂

[@shockwave2376]

The point went over your head bro he’s saying the 73-9 team reached out in the first place.. u were the better team could of just run it back.. so you can’t just blame kd and don’t give the same amount of blame to the best team ever going to recruit him after losing in the finals when they had a 3-1 lead.

[@MishaDolla9682]

@@shockwave2376 No I agree GS shoulda ran it back on they own but so should KD neither of them get a pass but mainly KD cause he coulda said No 😂 he was up 3-1 as well and needed to run it back wit his own damn team

[@earlburke7210]

@@MishaDolla9682you still missed the point 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@jacobwilliams5600]

He was coming to Boston. We had Tom Brady in the recruiting meeting so that’s another lie

[@MishaDolla9682]

@@earlburke7210 no I didn’t you must can’t read

[@giorno4336]

There’s a report that also shows that the Cavs tried to get KD in 2016 as well but Gil didn’t mention that for some reason

[@smoothsavage2870]

KD didnt go there and never would've because he was a victim of Lebron's superteams. Had he gone to the Cavs, who were already a superteam right after they won it would've been even worse for him.

[@livefromthemotherland]

@@smoothsavage2870yeah. That would’ve been nasty work. It would’ve been a mark on both of their legacies to be honest

[@RandomPlayer321]

I don't agree with mccants to often but when I do, I drink dos equis!!

[@420evaday7]

Steph stayed loyal to one team and never switched up like a KD don’t ever compare these 2 again..

[@vonyewest]

In That case can’t compare lebron to Steph then either. Or Kobe. or Jordan.

[@dwayneturner9395]

He had a GREAT supporting cast from jump!!!! And coaching was already set up for success, thanks to Mark Jackson..

[@420evaday7]

@@vonyewest lebron is not him either he ain’t loyal and he mr super team he’d never be my goat gtfo here and we’re talkin about legacy’s lebron doesn’t have a better legacy than Steph either tell him stay on one team and maybe we talk.

[@deerogers9899]

Tbh that hasn't really mattered since LeBron went to Miami as much as I love that era been dead bro

[@aiii5932]

the same KD steph and the team went and recruited bc they needed his help. And ended up winning 2 fmvps? cmon man be serious

[@seanb3525]

This was an amazing episode! Had me locked in the whole time!Love this show!

[@Keystone_Lorenzo]

Can’t bring up injuries in 15, but ignore the injuries in 16.

[@TheNextgenballer]

Who got injured in 16 that was even remotely comparable to Cavs losing Kyrie and Love??

[@BlackSeminole-vy5ud]

KD was showing his ass that whole offseason. he had meetings with tom brady, big poppy, al horford cause the celtics was recruting too. so was the spurs. so was the clippers. i think the only team he didnt meet with was the Lakers and the Cavs. dude made a choice. Gill need to stop acting like the Warriors made KD come.

[@vintagemonte]

they literally flew on a plane to him on a national holiday 😂

[@alanfortune3092]

I don't think Gil was saying that the Warriors made KD come to them. Kevin made the decision to join the Warriors....

[@Ccdssdgvbbbb]

Your comprehension skills are wack

[@ejking4776]

@@vintagemonteThat’s what u do when you want a top 3 player in the NBA to know ur serious about wanting him to join, at the end of the day KD has the final day and they can’t make him do anything he doesn’t want to do 😉

[@smoothsavage2870]

You need to stop acting like KD made the Warriors recruit him. Draymond called KD right after the game 7 loss, but yall dont say a word about that.

[@thomascrowniii1693]

Rashad needs to learn how to take a loss and he needs to stop bringing Lebron up when he's making a losing point because it isn't helping; the Heat lost in the first round the year before Lebron came to Miami, the Warriors lost in the Finals and Lebron didn't lose to the Heat, KD lost to the Warriors. And comparing the 3rd best player on the Celtics going to Miami to the best player on the Thunder going to Golden State is a TERRIBLE comparison.

[@491Gusto]

Uh he really did he said “ you cooked me Gil”

[@thomascrowniii1693]

​@@491Gustoand then he said "I still think I won."

[@mylesjones2649]

You are not very smart 😭😭😭

[@made6ix]

JJ, Jason terry and dirk vs Lebron(26)wade(29) bosh ? 😂 your goat lost very bad 2011

[@OnlyMorale]

The point is why didn’t LeBron stay on his team n figured it out…that’s the point!..if you’re a top 10 player of all-time…why would you team up with all-stars?🤔!….LeBron shoulda figured it out!..

[@kemarbrown9448]

What a nonsense argument Gil made, the aim of EVERY team is to do better than they did last year. The Warriors went out and got the BEST option...it so happened to be KD. That's not on the Warriors.. KD wanted to join the best option. It so happened to be the Warriors. If the team could've gotten LeBron the following year they would've done it.

[@andrewconselyea7]

Also I believe the warriors that year would've won with another player at a high rate that year like kwahi or anyway all star if the whole thing was locking down juuusssttt LeBron then go get a defensive player period.. Bruce Bowen would've been able to hold down enuff and do his job to stop LeBron is gna get his points period. But if u can shut down 10 stops thru out the game, enuff, to be enuff to get its team points in those 10 possessions that's all that really matters.. right? I dig mccants side I don't agree with gils narrative I understand both.. but gil forgot I guess that Golden state won another championship without kd after he left n won 2 before he even got there...

[@Wdlamb93]

Steph’s legacy >>> Kd’s.

[@iaintgonlie7858]

100 percent. Steph will be looked at as a game changer of the league. KD great player but will be remembered for joining the warriors and proving he can't lead a team to a chip.

[@EliteKeyboardWarrior]

KD is a better player Steph has a greater legacy

[@calm123]

It's not even close honestly

[@Anonymous-gy4lp]

Cool but KD joined his team and proved not once but twice that he’s better 😂😂. Imagine saying it’s Steph’s team but someone else is the best player Got damn Iggy won FMVP over him

[@AngeloSevillano-z1o]

@@Anonymous-gy4lpwho said he’s better? If he better ? Then why he didn’t win anything outside goldenstate? U delusional 😂. Curry got kd his finals mvp 😂 just like he got lebron his on olympics

[@broncho33]

Golden State decided to shoot their shot at the “baddest on the market” and it actually landed. Can’t be mad at them for that.

[@DurhamBull919]

After losing ? Lmao yeah you can , weak ass move

[@jdub2488]

That part! They mad they didn’t get picked up by a great team in their time playing.

[@boycan8319]

Nah Shad caught the W here. His arguments make more sense.

[@Bkfinest44]

& I don’t think Gil ever said a single bad word about Lebron 😂😂

[@adrianfernandez8476]

Or kd or kyrie but when it comes to Steph… lol

[@youtubefingers]

his hate for Steph is ridiculous and he doesn't even see it 😂

[@Bsmith326]

If I had a choice between Kevin Durant and Harrison Barnes who the fuck do you think I'm picking Gil?

[@Traylormade_Chief]

But the Cavs stayed the same

[@Bsmith326]

@@Traylormade_Chief So? I'm supposed to just sit and let my team get worse? It's not Golden State's fault that the Cavs didn't make moves to get better and prepare for the repeat. At the end of the day, they lost Harrison Barnes and the best small forward was available on the market

[@tarellcarthen]

Harrison Barnes inability to make open shots is part of why the Warriors lost that series

[@Nikohhh04]

@@Traylormade_Chiefwhat does that have to do with a franchise trying to get better in the offseason? They ain’t allowed to do that because the Cavs didn’t make any moves? wtf is the logic here

[@drakotv9240]

@@Traylormade_Chiefthe Cavs recruited KD but he didn’t wanna play there but y’all forget about that

[@Kay-Jay-o5h]

This pod is a show now. I don't watch much regular programming,but I tune in daily. Keep on pushing fellas.

[@ernestmcdonald6736]

The biggest false narrative is the assumption that the Cavs were just so unbeatable and the Warriors had no chance of beating them. Gil sounds like LeBron didn’t play the first 4 games of the series. KD move is weak asf bc in ANY year a top 3 player joining the Finals loser makes them a powerhouse and uncompetitive. A move like that gets ZERO respect (as a champion)

[@edfgc]

Just okc of russ and kd and those warriors have chance to beat that cavs team, literally those cavs teams have a lot of stars and elite players but lebron has always downgraded great players when he plays with them

[@GodsOfSc]

they also forget cavs down 3-1 with all their starters in 2015 until draymond suspension and iggy getting injured

[@Richplays26]

@@GodsOfSc2016 and yea true

[@Bsmith326]

@@ernestmcdonald6736 and people failed to remember that during game 5 Golden State lost Bougut (Defense, Rebounding, Screen setting) for the rest of the Series. Iggy had back spasms after game 5, and Steph was at 70% from the knee injury. That lifeline The NBA gave by suspending Dre was all LeBron needed to fuel the comeback.

[@murktee]

KD a clown lmao ain’t nobody real respect that his rings are fake asfk

[@Marcus-j4k3k]

Love it shad 🔥🔥🔥💥🥊

[@Jay1Whitten1]

Kd wasn't weak for going to GSW. Stephen A reported thatckd wanted to go to GSW in the beginning of that season. Only reason it looked bad was cuz he & russ choked against them. He was always going to that team if he didnt win a title. People gotta remember EVERYONE was saying GSW wasn't that good the summer b4 & they got lucky against the cavs

[@mikemcfly1980]

Cap

[@Justjo3223]

​@mikemcfly1980 no everyone was saying that. No1 credit curry and the dubs. Which is why they came out shooting next season. Tryna prove a point.

[@mikemcfly1980]

@@Justjo3223 nobody was saying the warriors wasn’t that good.. and nobody knew KD was going to the warriors before the season. Thats fuckin cap.. yall tryna rewrite history lol

[@Jay1Whitten1]

@mikemcfly1980 you can look it up Stephen A said it on air early in the season just like Doc rivers was quoted saying the warriors got lucky cuz they didn't have to play the spurs or the clippers

[@shanty518]

​@@mikemcfly1980Yes pple did say GSW were not good & that they got lucky. I remember an interview of #30 saying we are sorry for being healthy, for playing whoever was infront of us, for winning & we gonna rectify that. The next season they started off 24-0

[@yomarshall118]

That sandlot jersey hard 🔥🔥👌🏾

[@Jussiizy]

another day of mccants getting cooked on the show, love to see it

[@julianthomas391]

Salute to Gil's Arena!! You are appreciated!! Respect and Blessings!!

[@Kmsjr_]

mccants be having YALL pissed & i love it 😂😂😂🤣

[@marioervin4844]

This was perfect Gil!

[@MishaDolla9682]

Did Kenyon & Gil forget GSW beat OKC ? How tf was KD the big brother in that weak ass scenario 😂

[@davantefrancis39]

That’s wat I said if he the big brother I just beat my big brother azz im not goin to get that ngga 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@EarthalienCS]

He was the one they ran to crying after losing lool..

[@rasheedakues7373]

@@EarthalienCShow many has Steph and dray won since vs kd

[@rasheedakues7373]

And how many all stars had kd played with since lol

[@Username0708]

@@rasheedakues7373that’s irrelevant, they saying that KD shouldn’t had that hate because it was the 73-9 warriors that went to KD to join them. They were saying they the best team so why not run it back same team instead of going to KD

[@randyhendrix7141]

Rashad be arguing just to be arguing.😂😂

[@TJ-fu5kr]

That Kenyon fit was egregious.

[@talkenhead87]

@@TJ-fu5kr Asf

[@edwardcrank85]

Stop that

[@vonyewest]

Gil was in his bag today! 😮‍💨 & The analogies were on point. Great show.

[@kingnaz8465]

Gil was on his knees today

[@TsMexi_]

Gil talking BS if he was a GM and didn't take a chance to sign a top 3 player without having to lose anyone on that team. He would never have a GM job again. Gil putting this like these conversations weren't happening throughout the year. KD has been on 3-4 super teams and only won at GSW, how is he the big brother?

[@shockwave2376]

In the situation he is the big brother because he is the second best player in the league at the time and they wanted his help even though they were 73-9 and had a 3-1 lead .. so technically he is the saviour.. just stating that just how people call kd weak you can say the same about the warriors.. have to listen to understand instead of reply.

[@TsMexi_]

@@shockwave2376 he wasn't their saviour, he was their greatest luxury. People seem to forget that Andrew bogurt DNP with injury, Iggy was injured, Green was suspended. GSW choked no doubt but healthy they were clearly the better TEAM. Its been obvious so far the Curry saved KD legacy as much as KD helped Curry's legacy. He is a 2 time Champ because of Curry. GSW did what every organisation did that year that was attempted to get the 2nd best player in the league. That's just good business. Also I'm not calling KD weak he was a free agent, he earnt that right to go where he wanted.

[@shockwave2376]

@@TsMexi_ you listing off all the reasons they lost.. so why they ain’t run it back if they believed they just lost because of injury or people being suspended ain’t no way to defend being up 3-1 and losing with a 73-9 team.. it ain’t hard to see they called kd because they weren’t sure they could beat a healthy cavs.. so mentioning all the injuries or whatever proving my point if that’s why they lost run it back with the same team..that’s what the cavs were doing.. the weakness in the move was mutual.. I respect all those guys legacies don’t mean I have to avoid speaking facts.

[@TsMexi_]

@@shockwave2376 you do realise Cav ran it back cause the didn't have a choice? They were capped. You and others saying GSW should never have attempted to get KD has to be the dumbest take ever. Imagine being offered to get the same pay and less work and saying nah bro rather work 70-80hr a week for that money. And a business telling an applicant we can't hire you because you are to good for us, we will pay someone else the same money who's half as good. Competitive balance is a myth in every sport.

[@shockwave2376]

@@TsMexi_ I think what I’m saying is floating over your head top my guy.. they were 73-9 I ain’t bashing them but it’s a fact if you feel like you lost because injury then simply run it back.. but fk all that.. my point is the move was weak on both ends.. it was a rivalry brewing and they got scared and got kd.. idk why you ain’t grasping that? Maybe u think I’m shitting on them but I ain’t but warriors were weak for offering considering they had the best team ever in history and kd was weak for accepting.. do I think it was a dumb move? No nobody ever said it was dumb just weak so I don’t really understand your argument bro.

[@300GSW]

Yall gonna tell me yall don’t hate see the hate agenda Gil has for Steph and the warriors 😭🤣 keep it G

[@OnlyMorale]

Agreed!..

[@TomTom-lv8ns]

That!!! Bro I've been saying the same thing he comes up with weird hypotheticals and legacy debates after every Curry big moment if I had to guess why ..He probably thinks he's better than Curry and it just kills him seeing how good this guy shoots the3 every now and then he will give him a lil praise but that's the cover up dude is a buster you noticed they never talk about how bad Kyrie played in last yrs finals they never talk about how dude can't win without hairline James

[@300GSW]

@@TomTom-lv8ns fr I think he has said something about in his prime being as good as Steph. But at his highest peak, he is no where near Steph’s prime. It’s not even a debate 😂

[@javenburns2366]

when golden state beat the Cavs in 2015 "they were hurt" golden state lose 3-1 to the Cavs they mention nothing about Draymond suspension but lebron dethrone the greatest team of all time. golden state do what everyone in the league should do and go after the best player and golden state is weak . I swear if lebron would have did it they would not have had no problem like going to the heat was fair because it wasn't a super team before he got there

[@adrianfernandez8476]

@@TomTom-lv8nsyou hit it right on the nail. He can’t fathom that a guard that small can dominate the way Steph has in his career and we know he’s envious. I stopped caring about what Gil has to say about Steph when he said he doesn’t get any double teams. Teams don’t double steph?? Like what kind of take is that??

[@kalanievans2341]

How tf was KD the big brother when he joined the team he lost too..Gil paid off..

[@DurhamBull919]

THEY CAME TO HIM ! What part are y'all not understanding about that ? 😂 he never would of been called if GS wasn't weak and handled business

[@MickSwagger4k]

Because he was the best player golden state just had a better team

[@greatone9102]

@@DurhamBull919so the little brother beat the big bru ass??🤣🤣

[@smoothsavage2870]

@@greatone9102 You realize that irl the big brother doesnt always beat the lil brother right? We assume that that is the case, but not all the time. At the end of the day, they got their ass beat by Lebron, then called KD to help them against him.

[@greatone9102]

@@smoothsavage2870 so did the big brother get his ass whooped by the little brother?

[@dariusward6972]

Yooo Gil was on one today with them analogies. The big brother the pilot. 👨🏾‍🍳 Gil

[@OnlyMorale]

Gil is 100% wrong on that KD vs Steph Legacy topic!..Rashad is 100% Right!.. What I woulda said to Gil was..did KD know he lost to the warriors?🤔…did KD know the warriors were 73 n 9?🤔then why would he join them?!..yes…warriors was bidding for him!..that’s protocol, any player that’s eligible for teams? Would interview with them, of course….but to what McCants said, KD had a choice to turn down the warriors!..it’s on KD, for going to a 73 n 9 team, KD had a choice!…

[@OGSkillz-ml2eq]

Dude they still reached out to him first hand like on some desperate shit the way draymond put it they knew what was up so shaad has a point but gil is right though

[@myab1471]

Wtf would KD go to a sorry ass team! Mofo if im the best I wanna play with the best! Foh

[@KoopKoop-zn1te]

U dumb

[@OnlyMorale]

@@myab1471 you just made, me n McCants point!..KD had a choice!…what Gil needs to understand is…when it comes to the sell point of Teams, to KD, the warriors would give him the best possible position to win!..so Yes, it would look bad on KD for making that choice, WHY? Cause he’s a top 10 player of all-time….n top 10 players Of all-time figure it out, they don’t go to 72-10 teams, or in this case 73 n 9….cause he could’ve went to the wizards!..but he went to a 73 n 9 team, it looks bad on him!..it does🤷‍♂️!..

[@MargielaWitRick]

@@myab1471KD was on a team that had the 73-9 warriors down 3 games to 1, Russ won mvp the year after, he could’ve won in OKC. LeBron with the rosters KD had before leaving for GS would have won a ring for sure.

[@myab1471]

This episode was 🔥🔥🔥

[@Zeke47]

1:17:43 DAWG IM DROOLING😂😂😂😂

[@TheMaloneMitchellPodcast]

😂😂

[@edwardsadventures9446]

I could listen to this gang all day. All day......

[@erikjohnson1435]

Gil really brought the knee pads for kd and bron today

[@kingnaz8465]

😂💯

[@deyontaewilkerson5886]

Faxxx Gil!!!

[@300GSW]

Rich Paul shoulda left this to LeBron. The fact your trying to protect his image from joining a 4th team is admitting going to leaving Cleveland to go Miami, going back to Cleveland, then to the Lakers, all that team hopping as a bad move. You can’t admit that ever.

[@talkenhead87]

People say that stupid shit. Who really cares what people say? Golden State wouldn't give a damn. They'd gladly accept the two rings that would come from a LeBron and Steph pairing. They'd definitely accept the ticket sales that would accompany that pairing. Ultimately, that team hopping narrative doesn't apply to the guy who leads every team he goes to in points, rebounds, and assists. Especially when that player leads the team to a championship. Rich should've stayed out of it. But not for the reason you mentioned.

[@SeeJayTML]

Who TF cares

[@marcomcdowell8861]

Yet he won at least one title with all of those teams. Keep hopping.

[@talkenhead87]

@@marcomcdowell8861 and led all those teams in damn near everything. And was FMVP in every title run. He's LeBron James. They're gonna hate no matter what. Rich Paul should know better.

[@EternalDarkseid]

Ayy ima share sum intelligence with you....first...imagine any1 telling LeBron James what he can and cant do...thats first...second now think about the timing that this report came out in....right after the gold medal Olympics in paris...last...realize that this report REALLY has nothing to do with lebrons legacy...realize that this is simply an attempt to discourage the OTHER players from joining forces by setting the narrative that even LeBron James wouldnt make a move like that because it is a career ender...you welcome

[@Kaivyosi]

that was a great analogy gil 💯

[@therealtonyason]

no it wasn’t dude a big brother owes you loyalty kd ain’t owe them shit they was enemies. its not like he couldn’t beat bron so he joined them he was up 3-1 on the WARRIORS and choked then went running to them a month later

[@killaseasoncam713]

You know what lebron gone fuck around and be the first player, owner, coach 😆

[@GreenLightUSA]

can you guys please use the “ain’t no body tryna hear that brother knowledge shit” sound bite more often. it’s absolutely hilarious! 🙏

[@300GSW]

JOSIAH, we need Gil to be real and respond to this: Lakers and LeBron were recruiting the best player at the time in 2019 Kawhi Leonard fresh off a NBA chip and finals MVP. Just cause Kawhi said nah, doesn’t means it wasn’t a weak and desperate move from lakers and Bron. Stop picking and choosing and moving goalposts

[@OGSkillz-ml2eq]

Smh they weren't 73-9🤦🏾🤦🏾🤦🏾

[@kmt461]

@@OGSkillz-ml2eqexactly bro

[@OGSkillz-ml2eq]

​@@kmt461dudes just be talking bro not knowing or really understanding the topic

[@talkenhead87]

What weak and desperate about trying to build the best team possible? That's actually Rob Pelinka 's damn job. And that's what you want your best player to do. Why don't you people understand THIS IS A FUCKING BUSINESS?!!!

[@devorembo]

You aren't making any sense, THE WARRIORS WERE 73-9, the Lakers MISSED THE PLAYOFFS.

[@Cuhonfig]

Rashad don’t listen he just try to get his point across

[@SupremeGon]

I hate the KD vs Steph debate when all the facts are right in front of us yet people still be capping hard af. Its really simple math. Steph has won 2 with KD and 2 without. KD hasnt won anything without Steph. The two times he won without KD they didnt even have a superteam as it was just Steph and two really good role players. KD has had multiple teams with mutliple mvps and havent got out the 2nd round in the weaker eastern conference. Also the two years they won a ring together Ty Lou said the gameplan was to double Steph with a whole ass KD on the court...now tell me after reading all of that how that was KD team or that KD was ever better than Steph. Mfs just wake up and choose to hate like bozos.

[@smoothsavage2870]

You're missing some facts. Steph beat Lebron in the finals when Lebron had an injured team. Steph the following year faces a somewhat healthy Cavs team and becomes the first superstar to blow a 3-1 lead in the finals. Steph then recruited KD in the offseason for Lebron when Lebron was at his peak. Steph did not need KD for Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown because he recruited KD for Lebron. KD's had 2 teams since the Warriors. The only player who ACTUALLY was awarded an MVP by the time KD played with him post-Warriors was James Harden. Harden was injured in the playoffs against the Bucks and Giannis injured Kyrie. KD most likely wins in 2021 if his team was healthy. Following that season, major coaching staff changes and drama happens. But of course omit that to make KD seem worse. Ty Lue chose to use a dumb defensive strategy and paid for it. What's your point? lmao

[@MickSwagger4k]

Idk about anybody else but I always talk about how weak that was when Golden State added Kevin Durant to a 73-9 team. And Durant going to the team he blew a 3-1 lead to was weak...they needed each other to beat a healthy Cavs team...they all took the easy way out

[@kofiadjei6404]

The Player to Pilot analogy was high level 🔥

[@gspadeo87]

Gils GS take is brilliant!!

[@dceltics2461]

Nah it don't make any sense

[@kalanievans2341]

Gil's jealousy of steph should be studied.

[@amoney10000]

Or you don’t understand basketball 😂 because Gil said all facts, facts the warriors shared with the world

[@g.fazo2x568]

Gil so bias towards bron

[@atSlickBoiChris]

What jealousy?

[@SuperAtrain23]

That airplane analogy was 🔥🔥🔥

[@disciple37mt]

Rashad is 100% right! KD could have said no at any time.

[@Traylormade_Chief]

But the fact still remains, Curry and Dary went to KD.

[@triggatrey2112]

And Curry and Dray could’ve not ran to him for help

[@disciple37mt]

@@triggatrey2112 and that doesn’t change KD saying yes! LeBron ran for help and you make excuses and now bc KD dawg walked LeBron in the finals twice might I add!

[@iforeverfly]

@@disciple37mtyour funny cause, you’ll be talking hella shit if lebron got Kd😂 and that warriors team dogged walked everybody and would dog walk any team in nba history. You have 2 mvps in thier prime on one of the best teams in nba history you tell me the results dumb dumb 😂

[@dominicbarnes2061]

They could also just ran it back and met again with same team but they got rid of Harrison Barnes

[@nafiecejones6988]

Rashad can argue anything the man literally agreed then disagreed with himself 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@kaizer5oze]

Durant invited the Warriors, San Antonio Spurs, Miami Heat, Los Angeles Clippers and Boston Celtics in the Hamptons

[@dasmoka]

Gils analogies is on point this show one of his most sensible episode 👍

[@300GSW]

Didn’t the Lakers try to get Kawhi ? 😭🤣

[@JavierLopez-mx6bm]

Bron messed up the Lakers FA that year waiting on kawhis decision that led all the other good role players get signed by other teams leaving the Lakers without anything

[@TomTom-lv8ns]

That1!! Niggas cried a river about it not being fair broke us up and then was out here openly recruiting kawhi Leonard and KD AD sounds like LeStans want Bron with all the talent on his teams and nigga why y'all don't talk about Kyrie jumping from team to team but never winning shht look at last yrs finals he played terrible but they forever talking about Steph c'mon bro my nigga won with Andrew Wiggins lmao matter of fact didn't he make da all-star team that yr..

[@300GSW]

@@JavierLopez-mx6bm Bron was crying for help from the best player in the league at the time fresh off a NBA championship and Finals MVP. Why don’t Gil keep the same energy? 😭

[@xxtooshiestyxx8756]

@@300GSW Kawhi never was or never will be the best player in the league 😭

[@300GSW]

@@xxtooshiestyxx8756 you think Lakers and Bron recruiting Kawhi after he won a chip and Finals MVP was a weak move? Yes or no?

[@JustBombsProductions]

Josiah will never bring up Ray Allen’s name again 😂

[@FIRELINK75]

so we blame Steph and warriors but praise Bron for crying for stacked teams every year.... aight

[@spoonfedfitness7778]

No one ever blames Steph and the Warriors

[@gmfbishop5794]

If anything it’s reversed. You’re slow. 😂

[@SlimeAli]

Bron team wasn’t stacked every year all them pieces was fitted

[@Chris-tc2ez]

Man shut up.

[@FIRELINK75]

@@gmfbishop5794 my comment was about the consensus rhetoric in the video. thank you for the insult though.

[@aboss4ever563]

This some good content..Gil was excellent.

[@ELGUAPOIV]

I've never seen someone defend the KD move to the Warriors before. I thought it was universally seen as a weak move. Guess some people are cool with making superteams for easy rings. Dirk's one ring is worth more than all of KD's

[@rianeagan2693]

Because it was just a business move and he wanted to win. Weak maybe but idgaf. I wanna go play with the best and win 😂. Call it a weak mentality, but it’s just business. Think about jobs nowadays. Ain’t nobody loyal. People wanna move on to the next best crew with better pay and better aspersions etc. 🤷‍♂️

[@penkima4923]

@@rianeagan2693 The KD-move should absolutely have been vetoed. It ruined the league for years. There are some rules in place in the business world as well, to prevent a large corporation to dominate the markets too much. Both business and the NBA should be more strict in regulating these things.

[@rianeagan2693]

@@penkima4923 I see what you’re saying. But also it wasn’t a trade. He was a free agent. Maybe a different situation then. The Chris Paul to Lakers was a TRADE that was vetoed lol

[@penkima4923]

@@rianeagan2693 If it's not possible to veto a signing, it should be made possible. The Warriors were so stacked that they didn't have cap space to sign KD without trading Andrew Bogut away. That trade should've been vetoed then.

[@Book.of.Treason]

@@penkima4923i agree

[@rafaelramirez83carpenter]

Respects KMART showing love. True gentleman!

[@saintmatthew8982]

Why wouldn’t you want kd if he’s available? This argument doesn’t make sense.

[@smoothsavage2870]

Because of integrity and competitiveness. As much as yall cry about KD ruining competition, yall act like you dont understand this point when it comes to the Warriors.

[@sailorbaeKeo]

I was watching this with my man and I wanted to correct him on the pilot ,stewardess and passenger analogy. Without the stewardess and passengers there is no need to a pilot . If anything without the fans and analysts you’re pretty much a wingless bird with nothing special about you .

[@ZhyonFlowers]

In gils scenerio McCants beat up his big brother already so why would he call his brother to fight a fight he lost ? Thats a TERRIBLE analogy

[@tonie374]

Listen with two ears this time…

[@gabrielcovington7651]

The insanity that comes from former players mouths is insane. Do yall really think only players can understand the nuances of the game? Truth is players are so sensitive to the steps it took to get to a nba court the cant be objective about the game of players itself. It's one hell of an echo chamber to assume people can't look at your game on the court. Not your life or man hood it's the game on the court without bias.

[@kaizer5oze]

Every professional organizations job is to get better every single year. Whether they just won the Championship or if they're the worst team, their job is to improve the next year. If the Warriors beat the Cavs in 2016, I guarantee Warriors would have still gone after Durant.

[@Lereflexionnaire]

No Gil, an organization will never be labelled as weak for going after superstar players in order to win championships but a superstar player is usually labelled weak when he literally chooses to go to a team where the chances of winning is very high. I am not saying it is right or wrong but that is what has been happening. So Shad is not saying that KD is weak but if there's someone that has to be called weak it has to be KD. The legacy of the warriors will never be tainted because they added KD but KD's legacy is definitely tainted because he joined the warrionrs to win championships. Now, does it matter to him that a lot of people think what he did was a weak move? only he can answer that.

[@Darthramp]

KD made it known that he was interested and willing to go to Golden State!

[@furstfr]

1:17:17 when Kenyon said “equilavent” I almost choked on my food 💀

[@Moneydntsleep24]

Not going lie when Gil n Kmart on show wit mccants they always trying gang up on him no matter the topic

[@AJkunVM]

#hostileterritory

[@tonie374]

Cause he be wrong. Lol.

[@livefromthemotherland]

They might be going for the Stephen a vs skip format where someone has to take the other side of the debate

[@antwainedaniels34]

The players club Dolla bill reference had me rolling 😂😂

[@darrylclark8566]

Always comes back to LeBron. I knew there was no chance in a legacy debate of KD vs Steph that LeBron's name wouldn't come up.

[@haitianfab3157]

53:32 What McCants said was the realest sh!t 💯🎯

[@bluecheckmiya]

Golden State did in 2016 what the Clippers were doing in 2019. We knew they were recruiting KD all year

[@bluecheckmiya]

We saw Kerr and Bob talking with the him when he came to the Bay right after the game on the court 😂

[@ThaBiggestJax]

They forgot , what sold it was That game winner in OKC Steph hit as KD watched from the bench, Draymonds pitch that year in the finals was “you’ll get the most space you ever had in your career” and the result was 2 finals mvps.. since then KD Has maintained A Finals MVP type of game just no pieces to assist in his journey for another championship

[@Dray_3stacks]

Gil had on the MJ jeans in that wiz pic 🤣😭😭😭 whole pic diabolical “them wasn’t yo shoes, put that was yo hat” 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@berns18711]

Nobody has any logic on this topic....the reason KD gets more hate it's bc he went to the team tht beat him...the job of a team is to improve esp after a lost.

[@smoothsavage2870]

KD gets more hate because he was so good that he made the Warriors nigh-unstoppable. Not because he joined the team that beat him. People like to act like they hate the move because it wasnt competitive, but if people really cared about players being competitive, they'd hate the Warriors just as much. Because the Warriors (as in the players) recruited KD when they should've just ran it back as they were. The team shouldnt be improving by adding a top 2 player when they have the unanimous MVP.

[@berns18711]

@@smoothsavage2870 a teams job is to improve every yr esp if u lost but win or lose. The cavs office went after KD too even after winning 2016. U chose to go to the team tht beat u, he could have went anywhere else if would have been ok n if gsw got anyone else ppl wouldn't have been mad which I agree with

[@hoopersheaven5056]

Rashad literally flipped his stance mid argument once he realized he was wrong

[@shanepatterson6649]

Don’t care for all the kd slander but it’s crazzyyyy saying GM’s should be blamed in the KD debate when that’s what their job is

[@smoothsavage2870]

When did they say the GMs should be blamed. They're specifically talking about the players arent they?

[@n10sity]

The whole problem with Gil's argument is that it assumes that GSW thought they could not win without KD. It hinges upon that assumption. There is no reason to believe that GSW could not beat the Cavs without KD. The Cavs were not that scary.

[@OnlyMorale]

Great point!..Gil was wrong 100%!..

[@N14.]

The cavs figured them out they knew they wasn’t gonna beat them full strength they wasn’t supposed to win that first finals they played they almost lost to just 1 guy😭

[@emmawatzon]

They…. Couldn’t….. that’s why they went and got kd 🤣 the warriors were monsters but lebron and kyrie figured them out. The warriors would be retarded to run it back against a team that walked them down 3-1 in the finals. Kd another dynamic to that team that bron and kyrie couldn’t handle

[@OnlyMorale]

@@N14. cool…n no one had the warriors goin to the finals in 2015 neither like…idk what’s your point!..

[@RenardGarzaro]

@@N14. Let's see what figured them out looks like, the cavs lost 3 of 4 games by double digit blowouts with Kyrie and Love who were not there the previous year. In game 5 Draymond did not play Bougut (the rim protector) did not play the last 3 games because of a knee injury, the best defender on LeBron Iggy hurt his back, all the games that the Cavs won were last second shot tight games that could have gone either way, here goes the big if, if none of those things happened, the Warriors would have 3 peated,

[@dramabbaby5488]

#BARS GIL ANALOGIES BEEN GOD LEVEL LATELY

[@deejaay387]

The big brother example is so ass. How was kd is a big brother when gsw beat his ass. More like 2nd best cartel recruit the 3rd best cartel to beat the number 1 cartel which is lebro.

[@kingnaz8465]

Exactly Gil a 🤡

[@Nonverbalmentality]

By far, the best analogy, of pilots to players by Gil, that puts things in perspective for people who aren’t hoopers or athletes. Nice

[@ZimMill]

Entertaining This Debate This After 2022 Is Just Pure Insanity

[@OnlyMorale]

or 2015 lol smh!..KD STILL haven’t won a chip without Steph smh!..idk what Gil talking about lol smh!..

[@ZimMill]

Gil A Big KD Fan… & He Been Slight Hating On Steph For A While

[@calm123]

100%, this debate ended in 2022 after Curry led Warriors to another ring

[@aiii5932]

This debate is about the narrative around 2016

[@ZimMill]

@@aiii5932 Even Then It’s No Debate. Steph Was A B2B MVP, Fresh Off 2 Championship Appearances, & He Embarrassed KD When They Played Head 2 Head… What Is There To Debate?

[@paperxhase]

Great episode 😂😂

[@JaeKidd17]

Gilbert is paid off 😂 he coached bron son and now he’s sold his soul. Objextive and now making it seem like curry was scared of lebron 😂

[@JavierLopez-mx6bm]

He's a klutch sports plant

[@pierrelungu4923]

Idiot

[@aiii5932]

His #1 player is Michael Jordan

[@kingnaz8465]

@@aiii5932lebron is his goat

[@corpyhogan4433]

Positive towards LeBron = Paid Off Negative towards Lebron= Not paid off????