Gilbert Arenas vs. Skap Attack: The Kobe Debate Ends LIVE!

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No Chill Gil Gaming

No Chill Gil Gaming

Күн бұрын

The long-standing debate over Kobe Bryant’s legacy finally comes to a head as Gilbert Arenas faces off with Skap Attack in a live showdown. Is Kobe Bryant truly a #1 option, or was he Shaq’s ‘sidekick’ for most of his titles? Gilbert says Kobe was Robin to Shaq’s Batman, while Skap argues Kobe was always ‘1A.’ Tune in live at 4 PM PST as these two basketball minds go head-to-head to settle the debate once and for all. Don’t miss this epic conversation on FYF Sports!
#FYFSports #GilbertArenas #SkapAttack #KobeBryant #LakersDebate #BasketballGOAT #NBA #KobeVsShaq #LiveDebate

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@tb4l381
@tb4l381 4 күн бұрын
You became a Kobe hater after he died bc you know Kobe woulda checked u
@B.Piercesports
@B.Piercesports 3 күн бұрын
Who kobe ever check?
@tb4l381
@tb4l381 2 күн бұрын
@B.Piercesports he checked everyone who disrespected him for example Charles Barkley
@percyjohnson211
@percyjohnson211 2 күн бұрын
@@tb4l381 facts
@Daddieroe1587
@Daddieroe1587 Күн бұрын
@@B.Piercesportsfacts
@B.Piercesports
@B.Piercesports Күн бұрын
@@tb4l381 lol I'm talking about man to man not in a controlled environment.
@wutshappn
@wutshappn 4 күн бұрын
Shaq on record saying KOBE was the best player in the world after they beat Philly fact check you HATERS
@NochillGilGaming
@NochillGilGaming Күн бұрын
@@wutshappn Guess who was Ranked number 1 in the world (shaq) 🤦🏾‍♂️ After he won finals MVP 😂😂 do u know i was actually in the NBA on the warriors 🤦🏾‍♂️
@KhanCampsKBA
@KhanCampsKBA 22 сағат бұрын
@@NochillGilGaming Ranked by who Gilbert? A bunch of dummies masquerading as experts called media? Stop acting as if the media doesn’t have an agenda. It’s really annoying when you play stupid. You’re clearly intelligent, but you act dumb to try and prove your point. Your audience may not be that smart but real basketball fans are.
@jeavision
@jeavision 18 сағат бұрын
@wutshappn he also stated kobe was the best player in the world during a post game press conference during the 2000 lakers pacers finals due to kobes late game heroics when shaq fouled out
@KhanCampsKBA
@KhanCampsKBA 17 сағат бұрын
@ 💯
@414Mufasa
@414Mufasa 12 сағат бұрын
Ranked by sports fans with common sense and basketball I.Q, OGs that watched basketball before us, by the committees that give out awards I mean it was hard to find a nigga back then who didn't know Shaq was the best player on the Lakers look at where all the finals MVPs went
@StCropper
@StCropper 4 күн бұрын
2:04:16 the point is Gil takes credit away from Kobe’s 3 rings with Shaq to put LeBron over Kobe. Thats what SKAP is defending. That simple.
@MikeBNumba6
@MikeBNumba6 4 күн бұрын
Exactly
@westside5953
@westside5953 4 күн бұрын
Cus his resume is better it’s not that hard to get
@davontehood7163
@davontehood7163 4 күн бұрын
But he don’t lol skap tried to take away lebrons title runs and don’t add any context don’t even bring up the competition lebron played lmao stop
@uncleiroh7967
@uncleiroh7967 4 күн бұрын
Exactly ​@@davontehood7163
@WittynotSilly
@WittynotSilly 3 күн бұрын
​@@davontehood7163that's how you know someone is bias and has an agenda.. they use all the stats and context to argue one point while using no context and cherry picking stats to argue another
@KhanCampsKBA
@KhanCampsKBA 2 күн бұрын
Gil saying Kobe got to eat because of double teams on Shaquille O’Neal doesn’t make any sense. When Shaq was out of the lineup, Kobe scored even more points. When Shaq got traded, Kobe went ballistic in scoring.
@MikeBNumba6
@MikeBNumba6 Күн бұрын
I swear the longer he talked the more dumb he sounded. But he's repeating the same stuff I read from Twitter which explained a lot.
@KhanCampsKBA
@KhanCampsKBA Күн бұрын
@ For real!!
@jeavision
@jeavision Күн бұрын
I remember when kobe gave the pau gasol grizzlies 56 in 3 quarters back in 2002. Not to mention shane battier was there too. A great defensive player
@ThatVEEGuy
@ThatVEEGuy Күн бұрын
The pavers coach had Jalen rose injure Kobe on purpose.
@jeavision
@jeavision Күн бұрын
@@ThatVEEGuy excellent point. Y nobody tried to pull a rose/pachillia on shaq. Y they chose kobe.... hmmmm wouldn't they had had a better chance at winning if shaq got hurt?
@JJwestoakland1200
@JJwestoakland1200 4 күн бұрын
I'm mad dat LBJ ain't make it ta da Finals vs Kobe!! So Kobe coulda served his azz jus like n da ASG
@Klegend1750
@Klegend1750 3 күн бұрын
There is no playoff scenario where Kobe outplays LeBron in a series against each other
@Ihussleopm
@Ihussleopm 2 күн бұрын
You sound crazy Kobe is a 1v1 player LeBron is cooked
@Klegend1750
@Klegend1750 2 күн бұрын
@@Ihussleopm basketball isn’t a 1 on 1 sport never has been
@billwill4959
@billwill4959 2 күн бұрын
Kobe would’ve won the 1 on 1 matchup and lost the series because of his pride lol
@percyjohnson211
@percyjohnson211 2 күн бұрын
The same lebron that lost to a center you saying kobe would of lost y’all just saying anything now he didn’t make because it was go end that debate
@blackjesus504
@blackjesus504 4 күн бұрын
Kobe is 12x All defense 9x First Team (NBA record) Gill you cooked
@NochillGilGaming
@NochillGilGaming 4 күн бұрын
@@blackjesus504 who was the second best SG in the best During 2000-2004 😏 Best player kobe had to guard during his first 3 rings was old ass reggie miller! he made an allstar in 99! think about that! reggie was the best player kobe faced in 3 championship runs
@bighomey4343
@bighomey4343 4 күн бұрын
@NochillGilGaming The next time they bring up Kobes defense just ask why was Ty Lue guarding A.I on that game winning shot in game 1 of the finals the answer is Iverson gave kobe 30 in the first half and phil jackson had to take kobe off of him.
@animeogtv2114
@animeogtv2114 4 күн бұрын
​@@NochillGilGamingnot his fault. Kobe Was getting buckets and shutting sh** down. Shaq had penny, Nick Anderson, Dennis Scott and them and the dream cooked em 🔥 dude got ran off went to L.A and was obviously great but he did need Kobe or another great player to win. Kobe was guarding Small forwards, shooting guards and point guards. Dude came outta highschool... Shaq had a few years at LSU
@Halbyrd00
@Halbyrd00 4 күн бұрын
Kobe only lock up role players. I’ve never heard an all star say that they were locked up by Kobe just role players like Will Barton.
@marcsr2022
@marcsr2022 4 күн бұрын
@@NochillGilGaming it’s all love he schooled brother
@THISISRISE
@THISISRISE 2 күн бұрын
Skap put the nail in the coffin at 41 minutes. This fool gil just said that a team that went to the finals wasnt a contender. What the hell bro 🤣🤣🤣. I'm turning this shit off
@DPaynania
@DPaynania 4 күн бұрын
Gil I literally watched Kobe command a triple while playing with Shaq. Shaq and Kobe were Superman and Batman on the same team! Why didn’t Shaq win when he had Nick Van Exel and Eddie Jones? They were two robins and still lost. Shaq getting quadrupled teamed with Eddie Jones and Nick, why didn’t they win?
@DevinHarding3171
@DevinHarding3171 3 күн бұрын
Keeping it buck Gil hates Kobe cuz he had one good game against Kobe and thinks he’s in the same realm
@billwill4959
@billwill4959 2 күн бұрын
He has Kobe number3 all time that’s really respectful
@DevinHarding3171
@DevinHarding3171 Күн бұрын
@@billwill4959 Has nothing to do with it. Plus It’s 3rd in a race of 3
@LegendaryTay24
@LegendaryTay24 4 күн бұрын
Gil….so the teams in the finals didn’t have the same gameplan? Lol of course they did….so why was Shaq able to still dominate against east teams but not west teams? If double teams was the reason Kobe got off then why wasn’t it like that during the finals? Because it was weaker comp Gil. Shaq & Phil took advantage of the matchups like every great team does. Like how LeBron comes down and keeps getting screens set until he has the smallest weakest defender on him then attacks
@divinethought4808
@divinethought4808 4 күн бұрын
Facts!!! And if this scouting report was true kobe lead the nba in 4th quarter points in season and playoffs right. So your telling me that these same teams didn't adjust knowing lakers were doing that? Make it make sense they are winning chips with this man as a closer and yall.not adjusting .
@ABasedTohan
@ABasedTohan 3 күн бұрын
Someone get them to pin this
@SleepyEyeSniper
@SleepyEyeSniper 2 күн бұрын
Pin this man
@JT-km6th
@JT-km6th Күн бұрын
Facts, it’s also the reason why Shaq stops getting swept when all the bigs that gave him a problem finally got old/retired
@lionheart1607
@lionheart1607 4 күн бұрын
This was rough to listen to. Gil and FYF were giddy little school girls being lectured to by the teach Skap lol. This was light work for him.
@Agentdixie
@Agentdixie 3 күн бұрын
How?
@VonRipper
@VonRipper 3 күн бұрын
Skap got bake and started switching it up And name calling Gil and Lamont he got cooked
@KhanCampsKBA
@KhanCampsKBA 21 сағат бұрын
@@lionheart1607 to be honest, I think Skap let them off the hook too many times. Skap could’ve went harder. Shout out to FYF for putting this together, much appreciated, but it doesn’t make him less of a clown.
@LegendaryTay24
@LegendaryTay24 4 күн бұрын
Shaq literally called Kobe the best player in the world publicly during that 01 series against the Spurs
@stanleybalan55
@stanleybalan55 4 күн бұрын
@@LegendaryTay24 yet who was really the best player? 👀 Kobe made and took the big shots! but when it came to Shaq there was NOTHING NOBODY COULD DO WITH HIM! Shaqs only faults were that he couldn't make free throws and was out of shape and even then he was giving out 35 and 16 like it was nothing! whats your point
@LegendaryTay24
@LegendaryTay24 4 күн бұрын
@ that’s a fact! Shaq was the most dominant and Kobe was the best that’s literally how they labeled themselves. The point is it was more Batman & Superman than Batman & Robin. I’m not tryna diminish Shaq whatsoever he is the most dominant ever. But to erase all 3 of Kobe’s rings like he played a pau gasol or pippen type role for that matter is just blasphemous man
@stanleybalan55
@stanleybalan55 4 күн бұрын
@ Nobody erases kobe's 3 rings but it is fair to say he wasn't the best player! it's just a fact! i think people think more with their emotions! if Shaq isn't Shaq Kobe's doesn't even get to the playoffs! during that time?? in that era?? Kobe wasn't winning by himself and you definitely right it was definitely more of a Batman and Superman! Just sad that Superman's kryptonite was them damn Mcdonalds burgers! 😭
@LegendaryTay24
@LegendaryTay24 4 күн бұрын
@ facts lol I’m a super Kobe fan bro but nah Shaq was definitely the best player….i just hate how the media tryna do my boy especially post death it’s lowkey OD. Kobe was getting compared to Mike during that 3peat run not just based on talent but mentality and work ethic even then. That run was insane
@LegendaryTay24
@LegendaryTay24 4 күн бұрын
@ all he wanted was for Shaq to get in shape 🤣🤣
@Heie_
@Heie_ Күн бұрын
@2:36:44 is the realest dude that called in he called Gil out for switching up when Kobe passed 💯
@kyntelbevins43
@kyntelbevins43 4 күн бұрын
Gil can't debate this guy bcuz Gil is only going surface level and he keep moving the goal post. Skap goes way deeper with stats Gil don't even understand. Everybody and their mama know Kobe is better than LBJ.
@Atribecalledsuccess
@Atribecalledsuccess 4 күн бұрын
@@kyntelbevins43 skap admitted Gil was right, what were you watching
@uncleiroh7967
@uncleiroh7967 4 күн бұрын
​@@Atribecalledsuccess😂😂😂😂 you can't make this up
@dreddmann6532
@dreddmann6532 3 күн бұрын
Kobe will NEVER be better than Bron!
@billwill4959
@billwill4959 2 күн бұрын
Man please the stats favor LeBron please don’t come with stats
@JT-km6th
@JT-km6th Күн бұрын
@@billwill4959 they’re not talking about basic ppg and rebounds. More like 50 win teams beaten in the playoffs and stats like that
@versatilegaming8672
@versatilegaming8672 4 күн бұрын
Shaq was Superman & Kobe was Batman! Sounds better to me!
@NochillGilGaming
@NochillGilGaming 4 күн бұрын
Superman is powerful and batman is a normal dude with gadgets and when they both are in the same room! superman is the lead dog😂😂😂😂
@Blankman1011
@Blankman1011 4 күн бұрын
@@NochillGilGaming Batman was the leader of the justice league though. He worked harder
@micahjohnson138
@micahjohnson138 4 күн бұрын
@@NochillGilGaming Lebron would be Batman in room with kobe
@slimmydablack7796
@slimmydablack7796 3 күн бұрын
@@Blankman1011 and Batman would get absolutely mauled in a 1 on 1 fight no gadgets, no powers. Ppl like you who say stuff like that about Batman have to be real😂 Batman only ever had a chance against Superman because of Plot Armor
@mserikatodoh
@mserikatodoh 3 күн бұрын
@@slimmydablack7796 did you not watch the superman vs batman movie, lol
@LegendaryTay24
@LegendaryTay24 4 күн бұрын
It’s crazy because you can tell Gil literally didn’t watch games his whole career lmao. His going position for position talking about defense knowing damn well when it counted Kobe was guarding the other teams best perimeter player. He wasn’t guarding no damn Bruce Bowen or Doug Christie in the 4th qtr. cut it out man
@NochillGilGaming
@NochillGilGaming 4 күн бұрын
i was in the league! tell me who kobe guarded in (00-01-02 chip run) he was in the west so the guards were elite..it was the big men so when he played spurs did he guard duncan? sac did he guard webber? blazer did he guard wallace? 🤦🏾‍♂️ stop using later years when im talking about (00-01-02) just like skap he couldnt name SG guards kobe had to guard in the west during the time i was talking about
@LegendaryTay24
@LegendaryTay24 4 күн бұрын
@ I know you had first hand experience for sure…Portland had Pip, Smitty, Damon Stoudemire (who he also guarded) and Bonzi off the bench so it was literally pick one….he guarded Bibby a decent amount. Spurs guards weren’t good until TP & Ginobili came along
@LegendaryTay24
@LegendaryTay24 4 күн бұрын
@ those teams had really good defenders at his position tho and it was BBQ chicken.
@Atribecalledsuccess
@Atribecalledsuccess 4 күн бұрын
@@LegendaryTay24 lmfaoooo you think watching on tv is more valuable info than playing in the league ?
@uncleiroh7967
@uncleiroh7967 4 күн бұрын
​@@NochillGilGamingwhat's funny is Derek Fisher was with James worthy last night explaining how Derek Fisher gsurded ray Allen and Kobe gsurded rondo because Kobe needed to conserve his energy.
@tdotsfam
@tdotsfam 4 күн бұрын
Skap speaks to them as if they should be privileged to hear him talk
@Be10ne-j3t
@Be10ne-j3t 3 күн бұрын
Becuase skap has the facts has nothing to do with race
@billwill4959
@billwill4959 2 күн бұрын
@@Be10ne-j3t its not race he just have one of them entitled sounding voices lol
@LegendaryTay24
@LegendaryTay24 4 күн бұрын
Duncan was notorious for cooking Shaq and holding his own on defense against him. Kobe always cooked against San Antonio and all the other west teams. Shaq struggled with Duncan/Robinson, Sabonis and Vlade
@stanleybalan55
@stanleybalan55 4 күн бұрын
@@LegendaryTay24 Shaq averages 25 and 15 against Tim! Wtf are you talking about? 🤨🤨
@torreywallace1494
@torreywallace1494 3 күн бұрын
He struggled against Timmy frfr yall tripping. ​@@stanleybalan55
@tkbaku3036
@tkbaku3036 Күн бұрын
Not true 😂 he destroyed all of them we need be
@LegendaryTay24
@LegendaryTay24 Күн бұрын
@@stanleybalan55 over his career or in the playoffs?
@LegendaryTay24
@LegendaryTay24 Күн бұрын
@@stanleybalan55 also 25 & 15 is struggling for prime Shaq lmao
@malcolmmangrum7723
@malcolmmangrum7723 3 күн бұрын
No way you don’t think Kobe guarded the best player on the team bruh you’re naming bad shooting guards to make a point and if you don’t think the best defender guarded Kobe you’re absolutely insane
@H3roin1620
@H3roin1620 12 сағат бұрын
I don't know why people don't put more emphasis on the fact that winning the MVP was easier to do in the East, because of the level of competition or lack there of in that conference. Lebron playing in the East with subpar competition compared to the West's Duncans, Garnetts, the Dirks and the Kobes and the Nashs, and it wasn't just that but it was harder to show up the teams in the West than it was playing against Eastern teams. Lebron was playing 52 games in the East with while only playing like 12 games against good teams in the East and 30 games against Western Conference teams with half of those being against playoff caliber teams. So to sum it up Lebron wins MVP while accumulating all his stats in a schedule which 50+ games are against subpar teams while the West is tearing eachothers heads off and competing in 60+ games against playoff caliber teams.
@901yc
@901yc 3 күн бұрын
Kobe Age 21 Playoff AVG : 21PTS 5REB 4AST Kobe Age 22 Playoff AVG : 29PTS 7REB 6AST Kobe Age 23 Playoff AVG : 27PTS 6REB 5AST 3 straight championships . Any other team that's 2-3 Finals MVP
@billwill4959
@billwill4959 2 күн бұрын
Can’t be without Shaq’s dominance
@JT-km6th
@JT-km6th Күн бұрын
Only age 22 and 23 really and truly
@901yc
@901yc Күн бұрын
@@JT-km6th true but Jaylen brown jus got it w basically 24 6 and 3 . So age 21 not too far off .
@bmomosaik
@bmomosaik 2 сағат бұрын
@@901yc so if we up by 30 in the 4th and im at 22 points and i go sit because we done for the night... i should be out there stat padding to get to 30? 35? 40? stop looking at numbers without context
@DonaldWalker3-h4q
@DonaldWalker3-h4q 4 күн бұрын
Marbury was in the same draft class lmao t Mac, Vince, Iverson, Carmelo, kd, Steph, Kobe guarded everyone lmao
@NochillGilGaming
@NochillGilGaming 4 күн бұрын
in the playoffs! in 00-01-02! there was no guards in the west!guards were in the east and the big men were in the west! and in the playoffs (reggie at 34) was the best player kobe faced during his 3 chip run 💯
@WittynotSilly
@WittynotSilly 4 күн бұрын
And he got torched quite a few times by them names too... Mac 38 points , A.I 51 points , Vince 33 points , Melo 39 points , KD 41 points , Steph 47 points
@tkbaku3036
@tkbaku3036 Күн бұрын
No he did NOT, this a pure lie. Stop talking basketball
@westside8514
@westside8514 Күн бұрын
@@WittynotSillyKobe torched those same players just as worse !!!!’
@versatilegaming8672
@versatilegaming8672 4 күн бұрын
Doesn’t matter who the focal point was, when you get the ball you either score or you don’t! Kobe ate!
@yanmode5161
@yanmode5161 4 күн бұрын
Yeah cause he had to do that with out pressure. But he was a killer do
@michaelknight5097
@michaelknight5097 4 күн бұрын
@@yanmode5161without pressure??? Taking shots with the game on the line is “without pressure”??? 🛑 the 🧢
@shari_d
@shari_d 4 күн бұрын
That charge Kobe caught back in the early 2000’s messed up his legacy…he missed out on multiple MVPs
@BenniekdaReal
@BenniekdaReal 4 күн бұрын
Facts.
@justaohioguy9379
@justaohioguy9379 4 күн бұрын
Maybe could say the say with mj bron and other
@franciscofernandez2780
@franciscofernandez2780 4 күн бұрын
What mvp was he getting ???
@VitoCook-y2t
@VitoCook-y2t 4 күн бұрын
It didn't mess it up because he's cemented already... Those awards are politics based.... Kobe and MJ are the gods of the nba then you got everybody else
@shari_d
@shari_d 4 күн бұрын
@@VitoCook-y2t that’s what meant ..if the case never happened then he would have multiple MVPs and he wouldn’t be judged so hard by the media
@AMart870
@AMart870 4 күн бұрын
THIS WAS TOP NOTCH DEBATE 🔥 This had the energy like First Take when Skip Bayless and Stephen A Smith started, (Gil= Stephen A Smith/ Skap Attack=Skip Bayless, both sides made good points, this is what debate should be! 💯
@drknjayytellem5179
@drknjayytellem5179 4 күн бұрын
@@AMart870 This was a pointless debate. This is similar to me arguing with the Rock about wrestling.
@AMart870
@AMart870 4 күн бұрын
​@@drknjayytellem5179naw this was how debate should be done, you could've kept your negativity over by your house 😂
@AMart870
@AMart870 4 күн бұрын
​​@@drknjayytellem5179did I ask you for your opinion, this one here is mine, I don't understand why some of y'all wake up to complain everyday, it's always some miserable soul bringing negative energy on the Internet, bruh you could've kept that over by your house 😂
@AMart870
@AMart870 4 күн бұрын
​@@drknjayytellem5179so why did you need to bring your negativity here 🤔 this is my opinion, debate is a good thing we don't need everybody in the world thinking the same, debate built this country in some ways, this is what conversation is meant to be
@THISISRISE
@THISISRISE 2 күн бұрын
Skap put the nail in the coffin at 41 minutes
@kassaiscool
@kassaiscool 2 күн бұрын
Skap attack had a better defense to his arguments, and clearly knows a lot about basketball. 1.Mj 2. Kobe 3 lebron
@KingMarc24
@KingMarc24 4 күн бұрын
There’s been an agenda to remove Kobe from the leagues history and it’s sad
@yanmode5161
@yanmode5161 4 күн бұрын
Cap. You guys are just to emotional
@darrylmitchell4995
@darrylmitchell4995 4 күн бұрын
This is a dumb ass comment. How tf you gonna remove one of the greatest players from history? Y’all sound dumb as hell when you say things like this.
@DrRhilTV
@DrRhilTV 4 күн бұрын
You sound crazy . The only player this can be said for his Wilt Chamberlain
@drknjayytellem5179
@drknjayytellem5179 4 күн бұрын
He’s not better than LeBron. It’s ok.
@emmanuelaltenor9396
@emmanuelaltenor9396 4 күн бұрын
@@KingMarc24 An agenda by who?
@LegendaryTay24
@LegendaryTay24 4 күн бұрын
And Kobe didn’t guard Steve Smith most of that series he was guarding Pip
@NochillGilGaming
@NochillGilGaming 4 күн бұрын
even worse 😂😂😂
@LegendaryTay24
@LegendaryTay24 4 күн бұрын
@ pip was the leader of that team and running the offense
@bighomey4343
@bighomey4343 4 күн бұрын
@@LegendaryTay24 Damon stoudmire was the point.
@Heie_
@Heie_ 22 сағат бұрын
Fyf sports gonna need a bib on and some real comfortable knee pads if lebron ever stands in front of him this dude a grade A groupie
@rayray5561
@rayray5561 4 күн бұрын
Kobe turned Pau Gasol into a household name Kobe also was averaging just as much as Shaq was in the western conference playoffs especially with the west having better big men(Kings Portland Spurs). All the finals teams had no center to contend with Shaq that's why he won all those finals mvp's.(Rik Smits, old Mutumbo, whoever the Nets had🤷🏿) The one time they had played a great center they got smoked(Pistons Ben Wallace). And what about when Kobe took over when Shaq fouled out in the finals Also if Micheal Jordan played with Shaq it would be the same thing 🤷🏿 It's like why throw the ball when you can't stop the run tell Gil argue this
@bighomey4343
@bighomey4343 4 күн бұрын
The Laker name and his play turned him into a house hold name.
@stanleybalan55
@stanleybalan55 4 күн бұрын
bruh, without Shaq does Kobe even have the chance to get to the finals without Shaq?? and when shaq left and Kobe couldn't get any talent in LA didn't he wanna leave? Bruh he took some of the worse shots in history
@stanleybalan55
@stanleybalan55 4 күн бұрын
Pau was already a made man in Memphis which is why Kobe wanted him! tf you talking about! and Pau is a big reason they won that chip in 2010
@dolo4625
@dolo4625 4 күн бұрын
@@stanleybalan55 exactly! Kobe shot 6 for 24 with the game on the line and Pau pulled the Lakers through
@stanleybalan55
@stanleybalan55 4 күн бұрын
@@dolo4625 exactly my point but people act like Pau Gasol was just some bum dudes crazy
@THISISRISE
@THISISRISE Күн бұрын
Basically no matter how many points skap makes ...gil is gonna ignore it. Lebron needed superteams just to lose. And no matter how many times your goofy ass moves the goal post you can't say that isn't true. And he still shit the bed in multiple play off series
@TheNoseyNeighbor1
@TheNoseyNeighbor1 4 күн бұрын
kwame embarrassed his self on this professional panel and brought drama
@jeromebernal7826
@jeromebernal7826 Күн бұрын
It's okay to take gil's statement as Kobe being the number 2 guy along with shaq as he also admitted that even lebron or jordan teaming up with shaq will also be the number 2 option given that shaq demanded double or triple team. Especially in that era where post ups are the go to plays. But Skap's point is, that doesn't diminishes kobe's first 3 rings, because despite being the number 2 option in that laker dynasty, kobe was not that less of a value than shaq during that run, making skap put kobe above lebron as the number 2 on his all time list. That's how i understood each side's take.
@1TAKELALA
@1TAKELALA 4 күн бұрын
As soon as Kobe died gil started bashing him
@Agentdixie
@Agentdixie 3 күн бұрын
How?
@MikeBNumba6
@MikeBNumba6 Күн бұрын
Take all those awards and accolades away, purely basketball who was better? Who had the better post game? Better defense? Better clutch moments? Better scorer from anywhere on the court? Better handles? Better dunker? Passer? More dominant performances (scoring 40+ points for several games in a row)? The answer is Kobe where Lebron only has him beat in passing. All the awards the media brings up like MVPs, Rookie of the year and All NBA are biased awards and its the reason why more players that actually played has Kobe over Lebron. If we want to discredit Kobe Shaq's rings, then Lebron's needs to be discredit for winning with teammates that put up 30+ points in the finals including having bigger clutch shots then Lebron. Kobe's Gasol years didn't have that. In the biggest championship Lebron had, his teammate made the biggest shot and OUTPLAYED the opposing team's best player.
@kio5705
@kio5705 4 күн бұрын
I can’t mess wit the moderator (FYF Sports) puttin his opinion in. This supposed to be 1v1 Gil v skap it’s been a 2v1 I fuck wit Gil tuff ima still watch Gil’s Arena I Neva heard of skap but I agree wit his take on this debate no cap.
@uncleiroh7967
@uncleiroh7967 4 күн бұрын
Either way skap admitted gil was right
@NochillGilGaming
@NochillGilGaming 2 күн бұрын
@@kio5705 he agreed with me by putting kobe (1B) which means he wasnt 1A but his issue was (me putting lebron over kobe becuz of those 3 rings being 1B and not 1A but thats wasn't why he was 2 in my book
@Daddieroe1587
@Daddieroe1587 Күн бұрын
@@NochillGilGamingfacts are facts…
@tkbaku3036
@tkbaku3036 Күн бұрын
@@NochillGilGamingyou cooked him, all these dudes watch highlights 😂
@LegendaryTay24
@LegendaryTay24 4 күн бұрын
Shaq got guarded man to man by the Pistons and Lakers damn near got swept lmao tf is Gil saying
@stanleybalan55
@stanleybalan55 4 күн бұрын
Kobe himself said that wasn't the problem! it was actually his fault and if you go watch it actually was! he was taking bad shots and didnt do anything to get his teammates involved! like stop! Pistons played great defense and Ben Wallace was an Excellent defender! Lets not act like Kobe wasn't at fault bruh
@LegendaryTay24
@LegendaryTay24 4 күн бұрын
@ they lost that series for multiple reasons with Kobe being at fault for sure I was just pointing out what he said but yeah Kobe was chucking that series
@uncleiroh7967
@uncleiroh7967 4 күн бұрын
Karl Malone and Shaq played the exact same position on the same block. And other than Kobe. The Lakers had absolutely zero shooting.
@showtimej2582
@showtimej2582 4 күн бұрын
Maybe if kobe didkt average 6 more shots and shot inefficienctly maybe they would’ve won
@VeraciousMind
@VeraciousMind 3 күн бұрын
⁠@@stanleybalan55the lakers were playing 2 on 10 it. Heck even Lindsey Hunter had a good series. The bulk of the offense had to be kobe and shaq. While Kobe had to chase around Rip Hamilton. The Lakers lost for more reasons than Just “kobe”. Chauncey made Gary Payton look like a shell of himself.
@Mistachill
@Mistachill 4 күн бұрын
44:43 - who was the "perfect #2" when Hakeem won his first ring and Dirk won his ring?
@percyschannel4187
@percyschannel4187 Күн бұрын
@@Mistachill 🤯🤯
@lovelygivan1442
@lovelygivan1442 4 күн бұрын
Kwame talking about he embarrassed you. Y'all talking BSKTBL & he's talking Diddy Parties
@NochillGilGaming
@NochillGilGaming 4 күн бұрын
@@lovelygivan1442 lmaooo he talks diddy parties every day smdh never seen a man put everyone at a diddy party...when he has no facts to win he brings out (u was at diddy parties) like that is a trump card to win the argument over everything
@VitoCook-y2t
@VitoCook-y2t 4 күн бұрын
​@NochillGilGaming gil you was at them parties with LeBron lol😂... Now back to bball talk you know damn well LeBron ain't fuccing with kobe on no level of bball... Stop the bs and we know you paid off... You know damn well if you was starting your team both in their primes you taking kobe mostly the world would because we all know LeBron ain't fuccin with the mamba... You're on KZbin saying the exact same thing when that question was asked to you years ago before you was paid off... You make it obvious as well that you're paid off...
@JompDilly-e4p
@JompDilly-e4p 3 күн бұрын
Aye 🤷‍♂️ Kwames reading your comment going “Diddy Parties? Nah I ain’t know nothing bout em, but I do enjoy a good night of Butt Naked Basketball several times a week Youngblood”
@LePuffyRamonCombsThe1st
@LePuffyRamonCombsThe1st 2 күн бұрын
Is that why you defend lebron so hard? Yall were at the parties together?
@RBF7499
@RBF7499 Күн бұрын
​@@NochillGilGamingKobe was Batman, not Robin. Shaq was Superman
@NEONJAGU4R
@NEONJAGU4R 4 күн бұрын
2000 western conference finals game 7 kobe vs shaq stats. The Los Angeles Lakers defeated the Portland Trail Blazers 89-84. Kobe Bryant's Stats: Points: 25 Rebounds: 11 Assists: 7 Blocks: 4 Shaquille O'Neal's Stats: Points: 18 Rebounds: 9 Assists: 5 Blocks: 1
@billwill4959
@billwill4959 2 күн бұрын
Still a sidekick sometimes the matchups favored Kobe
@westside8514
@westside8514 59 минут бұрын
@@billwill4959Sidekicks don’t avg Micheal Jordan numbers 😂😂
@THISISRISE
@THISISRISE Күн бұрын
Fyf is suppose to be a moderator but he's coming with bullshit
@dontcrossme4120
@dontcrossme4120 4 күн бұрын
You guys were having a great debate and stayed on topic. Kwame was trying to have a moment and came on the panel slovenly drunk spinning idiotic narratives as he usually does. It would have benefited him to show that he can have a healthy debate about the game, but he continues to show what an incompetent moron he is. Gil cooked him once again with his own truth 💯 🔥
@Ivoiacoeytana
@Ivoiacoeytana 2 күн бұрын
NEVER did they ever call that 3 peat lakers "Shaqs Lakers" or "Kobes Lakers" it was always SHAQ AND KOBE! look it up the word "AND" also stands for "together with" "as well as" or "along with" its not that hard kids. Kobe was HIM at age 21 and was the best player in the toughest ERA of basketball
@THISISRISE
@THISISRISE 2 күн бұрын
Gil makes real basketball fans wanna puke. This guy just says a bunch of shit that a girl would say that just started watching basketball 5 years ago. Its hard to believe he was in the nba. Who the hell was going to be the #1 option with prime Shaq besides kobe Bryant or mj? I hate when they use the double team Argument. Likea Pf and a center is switching off kobe to double shaq.
@NochillGilGaming
@NochillGilGaming 2 күн бұрын
@@THISISRISE Okay so if u know everyone would be number 2 then whats the complaint 🤦🏾‍♂️ how can u agree but still complain? easy! its about lebron! it was about me putting lebron over kobe! pretending that it was becuz if rings 😂😂 we dont use rings just like i said klay has 4 rings but iverson and harden was better !
@THISISRISE
@THISISRISE 2 күн бұрын
@NochillGilGaming hey genius Lebron can't play off the ball. That means he would be minimized on that Lakers team. There's a reason he lost so much on super teams and fools like you disrespect his teammates. He can't be effective without the ball. You need an offensive arsenal. You also need to hold your own on defense. You know that we can see those games right? The objective is to simplify basketball. There's a reason Kobe was the guy in winning time when Shaq couldn't be in the game. I wanna know how much they pay you to pander to these kids and lie on one if the greatest to ever do it. We know kobe should've had more mvps, and none of your argument stands up because kobe still went to 3 straight and won 2 without Shaq or a superteam in the big boy west. Beating a superteam in Boston. Lebron don't have a single ring like those 2. Playing in this soft ass era and playing no defense.
@SleepyEyeSniper
@SleepyEyeSniper 2 күн бұрын
@@NochillGilGaming colors popped out
@THISISRISE
@THISISRISE Күн бұрын
@@NochillGilGaming yeah that's right. You better delete my response.
@THISISRISE
@THISISRISE Күн бұрын
@@NochillGilGaming at the end of the day I wanna know what you're getting paid to say this b.s. you know just like I know that lebron can't play off the ball. That's why people like you diminish the great players he play with. The best are the ones that can still get theirs no matter who's on the floor with them. That's kobe and mj.
@navarriosharp8824
@navarriosharp8824 4 күн бұрын
Bringing up Klay Thompson is crazy knowing he could barely create his own shot.
@FRESHNYK101
@FRESHNYK101 4 күн бұрын
4:26:43 "WTF are you talking about?!" LMAOOO🤣🤣🤣
@regwilldoit
@regwilldoit 3 күн бұрын
Terrible take Gil. And your arguments are going in circles
@bobbytropo2314
@bobbytropo2314 4 күн бұрын
So Gil’s argument is basically: because Shaq was locked up and Kobe went off, Kobe’s ring doesn’t count as much. Brilliant.
@AntiSewingCircleChristianity
@AntiSewingCircleChristianity 4 күн бұрын
His argument was LeBron won 4 as the guy vs Kobe won 2 as the guy. That was his opinion that Skap had an issue with. Even though he didn’t say it at first his issue was with Bron being higher than Kobe and nothing else. The beginning of the debate was about Kobe being a sidekick or not in 00-02. The argument there was that yes he was because shaq existed as the #1 player in the league and on the team. The most dominant player ever right? Being locked up by 3 players to contain you leaves 2 players open or not guarded well. He mentioned scouting reports and etc.
@D_To_The_J
@D_To_The_J 4 күн бұрын
Jordan 200 Double Doubles 28 Triple Doubles. Kobe 176 Double Doubles 21 Triple Doubles and 29.5 points per game against Rashad McCants. Lebron 578 Double Doubles 149 Triple Doubles and 37.4 point per game against Rashad McCants.
@DonaldWalker3-h4q
@DonaldWalker3-h4q 4 күн бұрын
So what about Kobe taking shots over like 2-3 people sometimes? Lol
@jerryfisherjr7489
@jerryfisherjr7489 4 күн бұрын
Allen Iverson never said LeBron was better than Jordan that's a lie
@NochillGilGaming
@NochillGilGaming 4 күн бұрын
@@jerryfisherjr7489 🗣️ As much as i love jordan "Lebron" is the one #alleniverson
@NochillGilGaming
@NochillGilGaming 4 күн бұрын
@@jerryfisherjr7489 sports.yahoo.com/allen-iverson-lebron-james-one-015245169.html
@NochillGilGaming
@NochillGilGaming 4 күн бұрын
@@jerryfisherjr7489 its okay maybe next time 🤷🏾‍♂️
@uncleiroh7967
@uncleiroh7967 4 күн бұрын
​@@NochillGilGaming😂😂😂 the funniest part is they think your actually stupid. The in for a rude awakening
@godsfavorite1985
@godsfavorite1985 3 күн бұрын
@@NochillGilGaming it’s Mike then Kobe then everyone else says Allen iverson when interviewed by Rachel nichols
@jalilakaromeo1
@jalilakaromeo1 4 күн бұрын
That Goal Post all over the place.
@THISISRISE
@THISISRISE Күн бұрын
So we're ignoring Kobe stretch of 9 games with 40 or more while Shaq was dealing with his toe? Lol Shaq was in a league with minimal centers and kobe was in a wing heavy league
@ellzmarley1816
@ellzmarley1816 4 күн бұрын
Shaq didn’t win to Kobe came to the lakers and Kobe won more without Shaq….
@thechampizhere4823
@thechampizhere4823 4 күн бұрын
*Until, not to. I swear some of yall illiterate 🤦🏾‍♂️
@rjchilds84
@rjchilds84 4 күн бұрын
Shaq didnt win until Kobe became good enough to help him win. Shaq was the best player in the world during this run. Shaqs finals numbers was absurd
@Agentdixie
@Agentdixie 3 күн бұрын
Shaq was beat up. Bruised and battered. Put it in context bro
@SleepyEyeSniper
@SleepyEyeSniper 2 күн бұрын
@@thechampizhere4823 😂
@sunssonsystem50
@sunssonsystem50 Күн бұрын
Skoot doesn't seem to understand Magic Kareem comment. Gil was saying in the beginning it was Kareem at some point it became Magic. He's not sure of WHEN the switch happened. Also kobe was only close to shaq in points not in dominance or team focus
@jsinos
@jsinos 4 күн бұрын
All comes down to the 2hr 16min mark… skap hits the nail right on the head!!! If you want to discount Kobe’s first 3 rings, then you should discount all of LeBron’s!!! Game over.
@drknjayytellem5179
@drknjayytellem5179 4 күн бұрын
Are you 10 years old or something? Did you watch these series? LeBron was the center of attention from day one. No one, I mean not a single soul, would say Kobe was the man over Shaq 2000-2002
@jsinos
@jsinos 4 күн бұрын
Nah I’m actually not 10 years old. I’m old enough to watch and own on vhs almost every single Jordan game made available. I’ve watched 90% of all of Kobe’s and LeBron’s games in their entirety my friend. I did not say Kobe was the man over shaq in those championship runs. And nor did Skap. It’s quite simple, Kobe wasn’t just a sidekick, arguably had more to do with the lakers winning those 3 titles than any other so called second option on any team ever. You’re out of your mind if you can’t see the impact Kobe had. All I’m saying is, don’t disregard those rings in Kobe’s legacy, and if you do, let’s also look at LeBron who stacked the deck at every single championship run he’s been on. You can argue that Kobe’s 2 chips in 2009 and 2010 are more valuable than any of LeBron’s rings. LeBron bummed out with an all time choke job in 2011. He wasn’t the man there was he? He had a superteam and was a favourite to win the title in most years. He got saved by many all time great players in key moments. Don’t get me started. As a player, as a skillset, mentality, attitude, LeBron can’t even carry Kobe’s jockstrap. Wake up, don’t be blinded my media, watch the actual games and even watch them without commentary if you’re struggling to decide. I’m with Skap.. not going to let fools tarnish the mambas legacy like that.
@emmanuelaltenor9396
@emmanuelaltenor9396 4 күн бұрын
@@jsinos LeBron was clearly the best player on all his championship teams. Kobe was the second-best player on three of his championship teams.
@J3Trad3s
@J3Trad3s 4 күн бұрын
@@jsinosas a big Wade fan and hater of Kobe all throughout their matchups.. I agree.. Kobe is him. Those 2 chips he won as 24 are more impressive than LeBron’s with Wade. Bron was saved by the Ray Allen 3 although he did play well enough to get us the 13 ring. But the egg he laid in 2010 vs Mavs is unforgettable. Jkidd and jj barea guarding him is insane. Kobe would’ve never and has never not performed in the Finals. The fact that bron didn’t meet Kobe in the finals and Kobe beat Boston tells me what i need to know. I’m also believe it or not more of a bron fan than Kobe for full transparency.
@yanmode5161
@yanmode5161 4 күн бұрын
​@jsinos and you're out here writing nonsen.please stop
@Me-MeechieProjectLive
@Me-MeechieProjectLive Күн бұрын
Skap is loony. Allen Iverson avg more points than Kobe in the 2001 playoffs while getting double & triple teamed every time he touched the 🏀 💯
@Heie_
@Heie_ Күн бұрын
@@Me-MeechieProjectLive lies the bucks raptors and hornets was no where near the competition of the jail blazers the kings or the best team in the league Spurs Kobe did more against better competition
@Trustnoone-187
@Trustnoone-187 4 күн бұрын
No chill Gilbert was telling the truth about kwame he doesn’t know anything he just wanna talk about somebody woman be drunk and high of them Fentanyl pills
@NochillGilGaming
@NochillGilGaming 4 күн бұрын
@@Trustnoone-187 😂😂😂😂😂
@Deaddlynedly
@Deaddlynedly Күн бұрын
The whole point is that Kobe wasn't some role player getting carried during the 3-peat, it's insane to think otherwise
@MikeBNumba6
@MikeBNumba6 Күн бұрын
That was the arugement. But what I noticed is guys like Gil don't keep the same energy for Kareem or Steph Curry. Durant was the top dog on the Warriors and no one says Durant carried Curry. So why do people say it about Kobe with Shaq?
@Deaddlynedly
@Deaddlynedly Күн бұрын
@MikeBNumba6 Gil says whatever he needs to so he can squirm out of whatever point he's getting roasted on, so inconsistent, idk if he purposely does it to dismiss Kobe or if he's actually just an idiot but I have a feeling it's the latter. His show it's the most brain rotted trash in basketball
@MikeBNumba6
@MikeBNumba6 Күн бұрын
@@Deaddlynedly I think he says things to get the most shock out of viewers. He's the same media guys he criticized
@Deaddlynedly
@Deaddlynedly 23 сағат бұрын
@@MikeBNumba6 yeah definitely agree
@Ottokash
@Ottokash 2 күн бұрын
Skap embarrassed Gil so bad the dude at fyf sports kept trying to jump in and team up with Gil and Gil say you have to put rings in on how they were obtained LeBron literally ran to Miami with Chris Bosh and dwade to win rings then ran back to Cleveland with another superteam and then ran to La and got Anthony Davis so if Kobe rings don’t count with Shaq none of LeBron rings should count using Gil’s dumb ahh logic and let’s keep in mind Gil is a person who never even sniffed a ring throughout his whole nba career the nba is about matchup so if you have a mismatch you explore it there was nobody who could guard Shaq the west had players who could guard Shaq better that’s why Kobe would go off in the west playoffs in the eastern conference there were no players who could contain Shaq at all
@js0836
@js0836 2 күн бұрын
Skap make me feel less biased putting Kobe at 1 over bron and then over Jordan
@Ottokash
@Ottokash 2 күн бұрын
@ I got Kobe as number 1 regardless 😂
@NochillGilGaming
@NochillGilGaming 2 күн бұрын
@@Ottokash See thats why skap couldnt win! he agree kobe was 1B which means he wasnt 1A and i never used rings to put lebron over kobe! i said when bron won a ring with that cavs team i put him over kobe ! His argument against me had nothing to do with why i put lebron over kobe, just like why i have MJ number 2🤦🏾‍♂️ Lebron by 25 Had (6 all nbas/6 all stars/ 2 all stars MVP's/ 2 League MVP's) by 28 lebron had 4 MVPS) /2 finals MVP's! scoring title! by the same age kobe had (2 allstar mvps, 2 scoring titles) At the same age lebron individual was dominating more things then kobe did becuz kobe started with shaq! Can't penalize lebron for that becuz kobe got 3 rings early becuz of that but didnt have the hardware! but longevity of dominance is key to for me! we all have our reasons and its ours so no one is actually wrong 🤦🏾‍♂️ But my argument was (who was 1 and 2) thats what i won
@Ottokash
@Ottokash 2 күн бұрын
@ lebron wasn’t dominating anything all he was doin was putting up stats and winning man made awards Kobe was literally doin it on both side of the ball 9 all nba first teams and 12 in all why do you only mention offense it’s two side of the ball last time I checked Kobe would’ve had better stats if he didn’t come off the bench his first couple years and we all know Kobe should’ve had more than one mvp the league black balled him after the r allegation let’s be fr Kobe was winning rings and puttin up stats with shaq Thts better than just puttin up stats and not winning bc at the end of the day it’s about getting the job done when it matters all dem individual awards don’t mean nun if you not winning it all and the end of the day Kobe still won back to back without a top 75 player that’s more difficult than winning rings after stacking the deck
@ffyhvftg-dc1rw
@ffyhvftg-dc1rw 2 күн бұрын
@@NochillGilGaming he won already bro. Fym?? UNC lol
@stepbackgod97
@stepbackgod97 4 күн бұрын
I went to kwames channel and simply asked “why do you intentionally go harass dude, is it the lack of content or you just on a bender” and bro blocked me from chat🤣🤣🤣🤣
@NochillGilGaming
@NochillGilGaming 4 күн бұрын
@@stepbackgod97 😂😂😂😂
@stepbackgod97
@stepbackgod97 4 күн бұрын
@ man, it’s tiresome, we’re watching a good debate about kobe and bron and here this clown comes talking about himself and diddy party. Like my OG said, a hit dog gon holler 💯 He doesn’t understand that if he simply stopped trolling and told the truth i guarantee his channel would grow, if he was honest about his life, mistakes, situations he could help the youth by reflecting on what went wrong and what he could’ve done better. He doesn’t even know that if he corrected his behavior he could have a impact.
@WittynotSilly
@WittynotSilly 4 күн бұрын
​@stepbackgod97 kwame is a loser bruh... it is what it is that's his lot in life that's what he wants let em have it
@stepbackgod97
@stepbackgod97 4 күн бұрын
@@WittynotSillyI know, it’s just sad that he’s a 42 and acts like a teenage girl or a delusional bitter baby momma is CRAZY
@centinelyork
@centinelyork 4 күн бұрын
@@stepbackgod97 He is broken...... I was wit the man in the beginning defending himself, but that's all he had to offer. You get 400k subs really because people feel sorry for what you been through. From there no evolution, just a bunch of contradictions, and corny @ss jokes. He don't want anyone to talk about him because the truth will come out eventually, while he continues talking about others. That's why Gill has to do this because dude has no humility, and is very delusional, and has a very hazy memory.... Brandan Haywood said the man ain't even know who Dr. J was. That's crazy.
@StCropper
@StCropper 4 күн бұрын
1:47:55 Skap be cooking man.
@FatBoySmokey
@FatBoySmokey 4 күн бұрын
@@StCropper he hurt his argument there lol
@jasonmccallop6605
@jasonmccallop6605 4 күн бұрын
Be cooking what? Crack?
@glasshous3
@glasshous3 2 күн бұрын
MVP is a subjective award. Especially when you have ppl like andre iguodala winning it over a Steph Curry. Plus Shaq scoring more points and rebounds is a meaningless argument when he's a big and around the paint 98 percent of the time. They lob the ball to him and he scores (wow). Nowhere near the tough and difficult shots kobe made from deep and middys, while putting together 26 per game in the playoffs runs. One point less than Shaq. If Shaq had a say so I think he'd defer at least one of those MVP trophies to Kobe.
@eastbluedrew1664
@eastbluedrew1664 4 күн бұрын
This was a dope ass stream love the discussion
@theflyest203
@theflyest203 21 сағат бұрын
Wild part is Bron and Wade teamed up to catch Kobe in chips 😂😂 if your the quote on quote best player you’re being chased not the chaser.. Just saying
@ChicagoDefense
@ChicagoDefense 4 күн бұрын
Gil made kwame look so weird 😂
@NochillGilGaming
@NochillGilGaming 3 күн бұрын
@@ChicagoDefense 😂😂😂 he does that to himself
@tonyjames8081
@tonyjames8081 3 күн бұрын
Gil is a 🤡
@NochillGilGaming
@NochillGilGaming 3 күн бұрын
@ facts 😂
@js0836
@js0836 2 күн бұрын
42:00 COOKING GIL😂😂😂
@BenniekdaReal
@BenniekdaReal 4 күн бұрын
Every time Skap started cooking Gil, Gil moved the goal post.😂😂😂😂
@drknjayytellem5179
@drknjayytellem5179 4 күн бұрын
Examples? Time stamp?
@NochillGilGaming
@NochillGilGaming 4 күн бұрын
cant cook facts! cant cook the idea of who demanded the triple team and who was played 1 v 1
@MambaFocus81
@MambaFocus81 4 күн бұрын
​@@NochillGilGamingwhen Kobe played 1on1 with pau gasol he went to 3 straight finals and won 2 rings had a good chance of having a second three peat ..LeBron with a top 5 sg of all time (wade) was only able to win two rings ..Kobe with shaq won three in a row and almost 4 ..Kobe definitely clears LeBron
@yanmode5161
@yanmode5161 4 күн бұрын
​@MambaFocus81 wasn't Wade hurt after the back to back or I'm dumb. Come now people. Use you all brains
@718winner
@718winner 4 күн бұрын
wade was so hurt yet the bulls would've beaten the cavs if rondo didn't get hurt butler wade & rondo were a match up problem for cleveland then the hurt wade played in cleveland with lecon
@pootieofficalmusic
@pootieofficalmusic 4 күн бұрын
If shaq was conveniently the "first option" for kobe why did he struggle for the rest of his career after leaving? Why was dwade the first option on miami? A dwade that cant keep up with kobe in any way mind you, was the leader of the team with shaq on it the same shaq that you say was the first option with kobe.
@NochillGilGaming
@NochillGilGaming 4 күн бұрын
shaq was drafted in 92 😂😂😂
@DonaldWalker3-h4q
@DonaldWalker3-h4q 4 күн бұрын
Using shaq age while bron playing at 40 is funny LMAO
@stanleybalan55
@stanleybalan55 4 күн бұрын
LeBron plays at a high level at 40 Shaq was done by the time he was 36 stop
@atlantahawksfan8443
@atlantahawksfan8443 4 күн бұрын
Skap Bayless just be arguing just to argue
@omarserrano5865
@omarserrano5865 Күн бұрын
Gilbert arenas is Such a 🤡
@NEONJAGU4R
@NEONJAGU4R 4 күн бұрын
2009 playoffs Kobe without Shaq: 30.2 points, 5.5 assists, and 5.3 rebounds In the 2009 playoffs, Kobe Bryant averaged 30.2 points, 5.5 assists, and 5.3 rebounds in 23 games1. He won his first Finals MVP award and his fourth NBA championship. In the 2009 NBA Finals, he averaged 32.4 points, 7.4 assists, and 5.6 rebounds in 5 games3.
@deepstackgaryjacobson2871
@deepstackgaryjacobson2871 4 күн бұрын
2009 Finals and Finals vs the Nets only time Kobe was superstar efficient
@WittynotSilly
@WittynotSilly 4 күн бұрын
Once gil gave context on how differently kobe and shaq were guarded according to the scouting report it was a wrap 😂 dude really had no leg to stand on in this debate And kwame was just 🤦🏾‍♂️ embarrassing gil had you me 🤣 when he said "wtf you talking about" I was thinking the EXACTLY same thing idk why y'all let that fool on the panel
@thechampizhere4823
@thechampizhere4823 4 күн бұрын
Almost spit my drink out 😭
@kevinlambert5854
@kevinlambert5854 4 күн бұрын
If that’s the case then we can no longer say kd led the warriors to anything since the scouting report was to limit Steph curry touches and let kd go iso? Because it was against Bron and the cavs that I watched kd grab a rebound and go coast to coast while Steph got doubled at the 3pt line and never touched the ball. In the finals.
@Etspiritu22
@Etspiritu22 4 күн бұрын
@@kevinlambert5854 There’s no game plan for KD tho, have you ever seen one, he was literally unstoppable, just like Shaq. It depends on the situation. He could have framed his point differently.
@kevinlambert5854
@kevinlambert5854 4 күн бұрын
@@Etspiritu22 cool never asked none of that stop dancing around the topic. The answer was to double Shaq and that’s what made him the first option. If the gameplan is to double Steph curry and Kd averages 30+ going iso while there’s 2 defenders focused on Steph than kd is a second option and never led the warriors to anything. That’s using Gil logic but that doesn’t go with Gil’s false narratives that Steph needed kd and that Kobe was carried to a championship so he has to sit there and act like he doesn’t know the gameplan was to keep the ball away from Steph curry no matter who they played.
@WittynotSilly
@WittynotSilly 4 күн бұрын
​@@kevinlambert5854I never felt KD lead the warriors in any respect he flat out said he wasn't a leader he didn't lead vocally or by his play how can he lead if one of the leaders don't respect him ( draymond ) What you said about KD and the warriors is the reason why after 2017 people still felt bron was the best player in the NBA because watching the games in real time you understood who the focus of the defense was and how much easier KD had it offensively anything else is revisionist history same with shaq and kobe
@davontehood7163
@davontehood7163 3 күн бұрын
Kwame came on here completely contradicted himself and lied all at once 😂
@NochillGilGaming
@NochillGilGaming 3 күн бұрын
@@davontehood7163 All in 50 seconds 😂😂
@deandregriffin9552
@deandregriffin9552 4 күн бұрын
Get him keep making Gil look stupid
@gabrielspencer8975
@gabrielspencer8975 4 күн бұрын
This man Gil was really trying to make a narrative that Kobe wasn't a great individual player until Gasol got there smh
@caly6220
@caly6220 4 күн бұрын
Skap cook them 2 on 1 😂
@Agentdixie
@Agentdixie 3 күн бұрын
How?
@iluvcakes19
@iluvcakes19 Күн бұрын
The moderator was a complete joke.
@StCropper
@StCropper 4 күн бұрын
2:32:54 Kevin Love, Chris Bosh, and D Wade were All Star and All-NBA prior to teaming up with Lebron and Kyrie was an All Star prior. I’m not sure what he was talking about.
@Pesomcfly
@Pesomcfly 4 күн бұрын
This was really 2v1 Fyf really goofy suppose 2 be a debate but he kept jumping on Gil side
@TowDow3
@TowDow3 19 сағат бұрын
the goats father was murdered. THEN the media tries to pin it on his gambling...what does the goat do? WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP...
@Sncf1
@Sncf1 4 күн бұрын
damn 6 hours that klutch check hitting like that????????
@billwill4959
@billwill4959 2 күн бұрын
No LeBron just more accomplished
@Sncf1
@Sncf1 2 күн бұрын
@ played 10 more seasons he should be
@billwill4959
@billwill4959 2 күн бұрын
Kobe played 20 seasons as well I can’t take away 5 seasons from LeBron and his individual resume still surpasses Kobe’s
@Sncf1
@Sncf1 2 күн бұрын
@@billwill4959 i don’t argue for kobe i only argue for mjgoat but it’s clear what gil doing we knew the second he had rich paul up there what it was about to be moving forward
@westside8514
@westside8514 Күн бұрын
@@billwill4959 Kobe played from 1996 - 2004 with Shaq, than another 8 years from 2005 - 2013 that’s 16 years with a few years coming off the bench because of his head coach in 97,98 2014 - 2016 Kobe is injured so Kobe literally played on fair grounds from 1999 - 2013
@UDHup2fn
@UDHup2fn 4 күн бұрын
Yo Gil, great debate my guy. Holdat Intro😂
@SYLABDULPOD
@SYLABDULPOD 4 күн бұрын
Fyf LIED saying Pip OUTPERFORMED MJ in multiple series!!!! Dude fried
@thechampizhere4823
@thechampizhere4823 4 күн бұрын
Scottie Pippen 🔥. One of the most UNDERRATED players of ALL-TIME💯
@dontcrossme4120
@dontcrossme4120 23 сағат бұрын
Happy birthday Gil 🎉
@dariengregory3160
@dariengregory3160 4 күн бұрын
Yooooo GIL getting cooked! No more trolling for gill! Dude came with facts. Context helps Kobe more than shaq. Shaq can’t shoot free throws therefore Kobe is the number 1 option in the forth period. An was a better defender too
@Atribecalledsuccess
@Atribecalledsuccess 4 күн бұрын
@@dariengregory3160 that’s so illogical 😂😂
@FloridaBlvd-m4k
@FloridaBlvd-m4k 8 сағат бұрын
Skap destroyed this dude (Gil). Skap went off of the dome. Gil needed notes and a computer during a debate. 😂
@therealdonaldtrump1646
@therealdonaldtrump1646 4 күн бұрын
LeBron is so GREAT. The up-and-coming stars like Shai. Luka, Ant-Man, and Tatum all studied the LeBrons game and got the 'flop' skill from LeBron. Thanks, Lebron. You're the 'GOAT'
@bighomey4343
@bighomey4343 4 күн бұрын
@@therealdonaldtrump1646 And Joker.
@Etspiritu22
@Etspiritu22 4 күн бұрын
There’ hasn’t been a player with a worse whistle than lebron since shaq
@FBaned
@FBaned 3 күн бұрын
Gil getting paid off by LBJ team /clutch sport nothing more nothing less l. I still like Gil as player but have loss major respect for him as a man. This moderator was a 🤡 this was a 2 on 1 at many times.. Gil must be high Timmy D always a good/solid supporting cast almost every single year he played. I get Gil doesn’t like Manu but that’s a ridiculous take. Manu was getting 13 cause 2 other ppl not name Timmy D & Manu was get close to 9-15 points at minimum . Almost every year from 99-to the last chip they had a solid 6 starting level players. Most other teams had 4-5.
@natecarson7997
@natecarson7997 4 күн бұрын
Gill dropping gems rn. He’s not saying Kobe wasn’t elite on defense. He’s only talking playoffs runs
@darionpickett2923
@darionpickett2923 4 күн бұрын
I stg this my first time and last time I will ever listen to the skap debate
@POINTS-OF-LIGHT
@POINTS-OF-LIGHT 4 күн бұрын
Skap made a great point on the teams Lebron had when he won 😂 And he lost after taunting the best player on the opposing team in the finals and lost! Even though he had significantly better talent. Skap had to debate against Gil and the host, eho is obviously fanned out with Lebron and Gil 😂
@torreywallace1494
@torreywallace1494 3 күн бұрын
I swear to God a Literal 1v 2. Mf don't never talk about the teams lebron had to win and what he did to win.
@kalanievans2341
@kalanievans2341 3 күн бұрын
Gil says kobe wasnt the focal point of the defense so he wasn't the best player BUT he doesn't use that ideology when it comes to KD and Steph. Steph was doubled in those finals & kd got to eat EASILY. Gil still says KD was the best player. Which one is it?
@NochillGilGaming
@NochillGilGaming 3 күн бұрын
@@kalanievans2341 never heard someone say Curry was the best player..never heard any reports that had curry the main focal point so i said well i have to research that which i hit lebron to see who was the game plan! amd if thats the case then it applies Curry was 1 amd KD was 2 and it was easier for KD
@kalanievans2341
@kalanievans2341 3 күн бұрын
​​@@NochillGilGaming coach Lue said himself Steph was the focal point of their defense in those 2 finals. KD was single covered & wide open in most cases it was easy for him.
@MambaFocus81
@MambaFocus81 4 күн бұрын
LeBron had 3 seasons to meet prime Kobe in the finals and he failed ..5 beats 4
@bobbytropo2314
@bobbytropo2314 4 күн бұрын
@@MambaFocus81 Kobe’s two rings after the 3 peat are also more impressive than any ring LeBron won.
@Rob8041289
@Rob8041289 4 күн бұрын
@@MambaFocus81 Kobe could have met him 2007..2011..2012..2013..2014..2015..2016 it was more years than just those 3 seasons Kobe went to the finals
@kevinlambert5854
@kevinlambert5854 4 күн бұрын
@@Rob804128908-09-10 Kobe beat the exact team that beat lebron 08 was the spurs that swept lebron in 07. You said 07 and skipped to the year 2011 when Bron left and created superteams to get there lmaooo shut up
@Etspiritu22
@Etspiritu22 4 күн бұрын
@@bobbytropo2314 Lakers Rings lol
@MambaFocus81
@MambaFocus81 4 күн бұрын
@@Rob8041289 prime Kobe what don't you understand...2007 Kobe had no help
@senadnicevic3441
@senadnicevic3441 4 сағат бұрын
Gill is chillen when confronted. Thats very positive. Skap and Gill in a weekly Show would be great. Skap is very underrated. Even if he is overwhelming and is attacking from all sides of subjects.
@kylehanley7180
@kylehanley7180 4 күн бұрын
Bruh Gil killed this dude, and u can tell because of how emotional bro was the entire time. Gil had bro hot 😂😂😂🫡
@KingTay74
@KingTay74 3 күн бұрын
wtf you watching
@Agentdixie
@Agentdixie 3 күн бұрын
@@KingTay74what you watching? Stats don’t mean shit without context homie. Deadass. EVERY nba player said DOUBLE SHAQ. Go ask people who played Jordan, and Lebron what the scouting report was.
@VonRipper
@VonRipper 3 күн бұрын
Lol calling lamount a girl and shxt And kept moving the goalposts
@ABasedTohan
@ABasedTohan 3 күн бұрын
Gil getting roasted on here bro…wtf you watching He killing him with stats angles and just straight up logic You trying to argue his delivery vs what he saying
@billwill4959
@billwill4959 2 күн бұрын
@@ABasedTohanslap is leaving out a lot of context
@sunssonsystem50
@sunssonsystem50 Күн бұрын
Skoop argument crazy. You heavily use scoring but lebron almost averaged a 25 triple double every playoff wtf for kobe do better besides score?
@goudkuipjee
@goudkuipjee 4 күн бұрын
4:22:51 This man is so far gone(sniff sniff). When did he play with LeBron? He meant to say MJ. Or was this a freudian slip of who he thinks is the greatest? 🤔
@bossmanhuncho7
@bossmanhuncho7 2 күн бұрын
All he saying is Kobe wasn’t carried, stick to the topic….show us how Kobe was carried 👀👀
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