The fitness gram pacer test is a multi stage aerobic capacity test that progressively gets more difficult as it continues.
@lochlangallagher11886 жыл бұрын
You can’t break the funny bone, obviously, but maybe it was false wording. A few years ago, I fractured the lower “elbow half”, and it hurt like hell. Big oof
@CopperBarr6 жыл бұрын
“Gender is a social construct”
@fink_rat5 жыл бұрын
No wonder i have no sense of humor, as well as the ability to feel.
@Zenlore64996 жыл бұрын
Never thought “yeeted” and Santa Claus is Comin’ to Town would ever be present in the same instance.
@olivius88916 жыл бұрын
It's yote.
@TommyDeonauthsArchives6 жыл бұрын
Merry Yeetmas.
@arbyw.18896 жыл бұрын
Santa Claus is Yeetin to Town
@thecheesemanwillcomeforyou84635 жыл бұрын
I yeeted a copy of Santa Claus is comin to town out the window
@TheGauges4205 жыл бұрын
I saw mommy yeeting Santa Claus underneath the mistletoe last night.
@JackSledgeIV6 жыл бұрын
I remember the Game Grumps played two trash Wii games back to back and they were the same game no lie it had different titles but the assets for both games were exactly the same because they were made by the same people I think the games were called Ninjabread Men and Tina in Toyland if I remember correctly
@PsychoCrusher466 жыл бұрын
Those guys who made those trash also released the Rock n Roll adventures game and surprise it is the same as NinjaBread man. 🤦♂️
@zebare7266 жыл бұрын
The same companie made over 70 videos games for wii, using the same game engine.
@KnakuanaRka6 жыл бұрын
That’s the handiwork of Data Design Interactive. One prototype (a sequel to Zool rejected by the guys who commissioned them for being awful), and they turned it into 5 identical(ly awful) games: Ninjabread Man (the most infamous), Anubis II, Myth Makers: Trixie in Toyland, Rock ‘n Roll Adventures, and Billy the Wizard. The exact same game, sold 5 times with different assets. They churn out all sorts of bottom-budget junk like this; heck, they’re the most prolific third-party publisher for the Wii with this garbage! Can’t they go back to decent games like LEGO Rock Raiders?
@nyancat22215 жыл бұрын
Jack Sledge IV pretty sure the same company made the Elvis game too
@TheGamingTeam101Tgt1015 жыл бұрын
Goldenglare_thewindeater xd
@zfrometa83166 жыл бұрын
2:52 did you always have that gag and blindfold or....?
@Matthew_Klepadlo6 жыл бұрын
Haru Okumra …no comment.
@moth.monster6 жыл бұрын
they look really cheap and crappy so he could have just bought them for jokes tbh
@TommyDeonauthsArchives6 жыл бұрын
@@Matthew_Klepadlo Same here...
@gavinkingsley16856 жыл бұрын
Haru Okumra I had the same question
@Matthew_Klepadlo6 жыл бұрын
Tommy Deonauth's Archives but still Oolala~
@sharkhammr6 жыл бұрын
Ah, good old Wii Shovelware. We all knew it was coming when they removed "of quality" from the "offical nintendo seal".
@surrealbrain42276 жыл бұрын
To be fair, the NES, Super NES, N64 and Gamecube also had their fair share of awful games even before they removed the word "quality" in the name.
@Jdudec3675 жыл бұрын
@@surrealbrain4227 oh god...imagine how many BAD games the nes specifically? like it was the main console after the crash....so yikes
@dachel6834 жыл бұрын
@@Jdudec367 watch AVGN.
6 жыл бұрын
2:20 excuse you his name is BURGERMEISTER MEISTERBURGER
@ilikecurry23456 жыл бұрын
That's what we're all saying!
@tgirl_jocy6 жыл бұрын
Family guy WISHED it had your cut away gags.
@WillieManga5 жыл бұрын
I barely even noticed they were cutaway gags.
@imherehaha89893 жыл бұрын
Takes a literal gag out
@jadedheartsz Жыл бұрын
Family Guy is funny as hell you crazy
@doobiousyt6 жыл бұрын
12:05 Tank controls in a military shooter game sounds funny to me. At least the developers were 'sticking to their guns' on the theme of the game
@TommyDeonauthsArchives6 жыл бұрын
Hah!
@DanielPinel5 жыл бұрын
*baaa dum TSS*
@ThatRandomEncounterGuy5 жыл бұрын
Your description of the iCarly game describes literally everything Dan Schneider has made *since* iCarly (except Victorious)
@jadedheartsz Жыл бұрын
I disagree, his shows are pretty good.
@spud13y6 жыл бұрын
Bad Wii games? What? Noooo...
@-don6 жыл бұрын
Spüdley ikr
@Oneiros06296 жыл бұрын
Specs hey see that? Do you see it? That’s the fucking door
@thegamingdoggo95195 жыл бұрын
Nice profile
@WillieManga5 жыл бұрын
Mark Wahlberg reference?
@bigragegage6 жыл бұрын
2:51 did you buy that shit just for that joke?
@MiloKuroshiro6 жыл бұрын
@MrKlassic me too, because that's a terrible and uncomfortable gag ball. Not great
@angrysporkgoddess82246 жыл бұрын
@@MiloKuroshiro dude I know right that's some cheap looking shit right there . Like wish dot com kind of nonsense
@pikapals416 жыл бұрын
Blitzbitch The Bisexual Reindeer You know, the more I look at it, yeah, it looks pretty cheap
@oatstealer50756 жыл бұрын
Gilly is a bottom comfirmed
@angrysporkgoddess82246 жыл бұрын
@@oatstealer5075 one of us one of us
@Joffy6 жыл бұрын
R.I.P Wii Shop Channel
@TommyDeonauthsArchives6 жыл бұрын
No one cares that you died.
@ilikecurry23456 жыл бұрын
Then why did he use the music for that place!?
@ZeusTheIrritable6 жыл бұрын
There is something very nostalgic about digging through all the crap Wii games at my local game store. Thanks for the video! Also, the mask and ball-gag were an unexpected look into your private life. Fantastic.
@DiscontinuedChannel-z1t6 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing at Walmart a bin full of Alvin and the Chipmunks Wii games
@guavapaws5 жыл бұрын
Oh nOO
@TheGamingTeam101Tgt1015 жыл бұрын
SonicChaoCPPS yep
@JaggedBird5 жыл бұрын
SonicChao I remember that but instead of Walmart it was feckin’ Tesco and that’s the Ireland/UK nightmare of it
@tommyjohnson48555 жыл бұрын
My local game store has a whole shelf of Tiger Woods games for ps2
@TheChefBoo4 жыл бұрын
Did you buy one?
@callmealx6 жыл бұрын
*Incredibly* brave of you to upload footage of yourself in a blindfold and gag. Also, oh myyyy~
@97mizuno6 жыл бұрын
When I saw the title, three words came to mind: Data Design Interactive.
@chadschmaltz97906 жыл бұрын
Same.
@EssexAggiegrad20112 жыл бұрын
@@chadschmaltz9790 And look who showed up
@baoguettes6 жыл бұрын
The santa one had very similar mechanics as a Dora snow princess one I had. Like it was a platform game that you would collect snowflakes and would use similar stuff to move
@baoguettes6 жыл бұрын
TheKitKatLizard Not saying it’s bad, I loved that game growing up. Just it was very similar to the Santa game. Although that snowflake loading screen scared me so much lol
@Zararthur6 жыл бұрын
Do we need a "Wii Trash Video 2" to show "Whoever in Toyland" and "Ninja Bread man" are the same as "Rock and Roll Adventure"?
@Wunkydoo5 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Anubis 2
@ilikecurry23452 жыл бұрын
Bizard the Wizard and the ?????????
@BugsyFoga6 жыл бұрын
So a good chunk of the wii's library then
@super8bitable6 жыл бұрын
Sadly.
@TheGamingTeam101Tgt1015 жыл бұрын
Nathaniel Foga yea but there are some of the best games I’ve ever played on the Wii
@Jdudec3675 жыл бұрын
well...at that point may as well bring up the ps2...
@SnipingIsFun5 жыл бұрын
Wii had a lot of good games too
@wick3dv15 жыл бұрын
The dungeon skit just made me a fan. Subscribed
@nbHawkeye6 жыл бұрын
I remember when waiting for Skyward Sword to be released walking into a games store but instead of the new hot Zelda game, which took a nearly a year still, and found just a wall full of horrible looking games I havn't even heard of at that point.
@zakstorm51716 жыл бұрын
Just wanna add that the Sea Monsters game is also for the ps2, except they forgot to add a button that lets you attack. And that button is needed to kill prey, which you can then eat. So it’s literally a game where you go as far as you can and then die from hunger. Fun.
@ChristopherMoom6 жыл бұрын
The parts of the Wii people don't want to talk about
@dolphinboi-playmonsterranc96686 жыл бұрын
Wii don't talk about these games.
@Soup_SSB6 жыл бұрын
Except Gilly... And Scott
@TigirlakaLaserwolf66 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure 80% of Wii discussions end in shovelware
@Chelaxim6 жыл бұрын
I remember at the end of the 7th Gen,Game Informer averaged all the scores given for every game on the PS3,360 and Wii. Wii had so much shovelware that the entire Wii library average score was below 6.
@Taikofan046 жыл бұрын
But wii gotta talk about it
@Knosken396 жыл бұрын
1:55 You think you are cool for not using the safety strap, well it looks like karma hit and the strap hit you in the face For people who didn't understand: It's a meme
@charliep71125 жыл бұрын
Hey, remember Rock N Roll Adventures, guess what, without realizing it, by playing Rock N Roll Adventures, you were playing four games without realizing it, because this is a rehash of Ninjabreadman, Anubis 2, and Myth Makers, Trixe in Toy Land, and when I mean rehash, I don't mean Ubisoft, I mean rehash in which these are the exact same games, not even exaggerating, the same code, same gameplay, same music, same tutorial level, same controls, same glitches, yep, they copied and pasted Ninjabreadman, and the only thing they've changed was the level design and textures, all four of these games are the exact same game. Now people, since these games are eleven years old now, do you think AVGN should review them?
@therunawaykid65234 жыл бұрын
Charlie Perrey man that is lazy
@famoussession74266 жыл бұрын
One has to wonder how the people even made these games
@silhouettoofaman29356 жыл бұрын
One also has to wonder why Nintendo decided to license these games.
@TheMGMfan5 жыл бұрын
Silhouetto of a Man Because they didn’t care about the quality of the games on their system, which is an issue pretty much all consoles suffer from, especially popular ones.
@crackerjack03494 жыл бұрын
Lots of drugs
@Trisaaru6 жыл бұрын
I remember watching ICarly when I was younger and I don't remember a character named Neville.
@lonegalaxy91586 жыл бұрын
He was the tryhard that wanted to fuck Carly and destroy the website i think
@super8bitable6 жыл бұрын
How do you not remember him
@Trisaaru6 жыл бұрын
@@lonegalaxy9158 I looked him up. He looks like a KZbinr called "Michael Reeves".
@crackerjack03496 жыл бұрын
He sucked
@Ratciclefan6 жыл бұрын
Neville was terrible
@tidepodpadthai26335 жыл бұрын
"Anyone caught with a toy in _his_ possession will be thrown in the dungeon" So, women can have toys? I smell the work of feminists. Crap, I wanted to go to the dungeon...
@ilikecurry23452 жыл бұрын
The original special is from 1970.
@Eye_Of_Odin9782 жыл бұрын
@@ilikecurry2345 1) Feminism as a movement still existed back then, so your point is irrelevant 2) Dude, it's a JOKE. Get over it. It was worth a chuckle, let's not get butthurt over it because he jabbed dem feminists, let's just move on.
@princesspixel31512 жыл бұрын
So I get to keep my “illegal” toys after all??? Hooray? My plushie collection is safe from tyranny!!!
@ErisIsAnAbomination2 жыл бұрын
More stuffed animals for us 💅🏻
@kmartwifi44916 жыл бұрын
"Santa gets Yeeted" -GillyTheKid
@Catglittercrafts5 жыл бұрын
Omg, the ball gag and blindfold threw me off So....yea....how you doin’? 😍
@TwisterTH6 жыл бұрын
Happy New Year, Gilly!
@lucinagaming80875 жыл бұрын
That Elvis game is the exact same game as Trixie in Toyland and Gingerbread Ninja...
@jolt35555 жыл бұрын
Lucina Gaming don't forget Anubis II
@RetroGamerBB6 жыл бұрын
Plenty of junk on Wii, but also some fun obscure stuff
@WillieManga5 жыл бұрын
4:11 Street Sharkz?
@MAYYO36 жыл бұрын
2:51 No. Stop.
@yingyangdevious3 жыл бұрын
I can't tell you how hard I laughed thinking about the guard "littering" a baby.
@averbeck99176 жыл бұрын
Isn’t the Elvis game a re-skin of ninja bread man and trixie in toy land?
@saubergt23905 жыл бұрын
Yes. Yes it is. There is even another one called "Anubis the Second."
@thepersondotjpg4 жыл бұрын
Your profile pic expresses how I'd feel after playing a shovelware title, Averbeck. Least there isn't an "Emoji Movie" or "Cuties" game in this world.
@r4tb4st4rd76 жыл бұрын
i actually had that sea monsters game and really liked it, not necessarily for the gameplay as a stand alone thing, but as someone who loves paleontology and herpetology and being terrified of the ocean, lol. I actually beat it, you get to fly away as a pterosaur
@rheenusthebeanus6 жыл бұрын
I actually had the last 2 games in my collection for a while and I have to say... I agree
@MiloKuroshiro5 жыл бұрын
Gilly, please don't ever use a ballgag if you don't want to wake up things on me please.
@cjhs20064 жыл бұрын
so You’re Playing as The King of Rock,&,Roll,Elvis Presley Who Was Around in The 50s,&,60s When it Was Only Vinyl Records,But You’re Collecting CDs Which Were Invented in The 80s,&,90s,I Know I Suck at Math,so It’s Gonna Just Sound Ironic Coming From me,But Something Really,Really Doesn’t Add up Here,Can Somebody Please Explain That to me?
@cjhs20064 жыл бұрын
Nerdy Alien Touché
@cjhs20064 жыл бұрын
Nerdy Alien True
@mupumupu28426 жыл бұрын
The worlds 3 most unexplored places 1.all the worlds oceans 2.my sock drawer 3.the wii’s game library
@mintstarmari3 жыл бұрын
To be frank: I’m so thankful I’m a devoted gamer because if I ever get married and have a son or daughter , I’ll make sure my child gets only the correct games and avoid buying them shovelware.
@joeywomer6 жыл бұрын
The smile Gil gives the viewer when shaking the Wii Remote is kinda creepy.
@justsomemothmanwithinterne79215 жыл бұрын
As a kid I poured everything I had in to that sea monsters game and actually completed the “game”. 2/10 would not recommend
@KinshipCadet5 жыл бұрын
You're tellin' me. I played the DS version of the title, and it's no better... if it isn't worse.
@TheMaleLilligant6 жыл бұрын
Worst part about Rock n Roll adventures is that they reused the same control setup and even some level structure for 3 other games: Trixie in Toyland, Anubis II and Ninjabread Man
@GUYI6216 жыл бұрын
You guys wanna listen to sicko mode or mo bamba?
@aenoire4 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's because the Wii is one of my favorite nintendo consoles, but there's something special about Wii shovelware haha
@mamasboy75696 жыл бұрын
The Wii reminds of the NES in the way that they just have mountains of absolute garbage 3rd party games.
@colingznetworkplus46183 жыл бұрын
It’s funny because Nitro Rad made a whole video on ICarly for the Wii
@lonegalaxy91586 жыл бұрын
When you're happy Gilly is back but you don't want to remember how you played most of these games as a stupid kid who had no money
@Ecalyptus906 жыл бұрын
Goddamn You deserve SO much more attention man! You're always delivering top quality content!
@abbywheeler90255 жыл бұрын
I actually had DragonBlade as a kid. I remember thinking it was the coolest thing ever. My cousin and I used to squabble over who got to play it when. I'd always just thought I was crap at the game. Guess I was wrong.
@mariochaosspear6 жыл бұрын
I once played Super Mario Galaxy 2 to 100% completion on the Wii U Gamepad. I feel I may be clinically insane.
@KingdomHeartsFan-mu9cf5 жыл бұрын
Why’d they make a Santa Clays is Coming to Town video game about half a century after the original airing!?
@Longshot886 жыл бұрын
Anyone remember Cabela's Big Game Hunter 2010? For the Wii, it had great graphics, mechanics and a badass sound track (it was organized by the same guy that set up the CoD WaW sound track). It made my childhood lol
@Chelaxim6 жыл бұрын
So is Gilly a sub,dom or switch?
@MandrakeFernflower5 жыл бұрын
A nintendo switch
@ARCADE_EXE4 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@thepersondotjpg4 жыл бұрын
Never did I think BDSM & bad Wii games could be expressed in the same video (or comment section).
@theotherannaUTAU5 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad I found your channel. I feel like I've exhausted the content of my favorite creators, so this made my day so much better. I can't wait to binge on your videos!
@codename_ema4 жыл бұрын
As one of Santa's elves, I can confirm that we make toys that way
@nyancat22215 жыл бұрын
2:52 didn’t know you were into that kinda stuff
@AdamantAlex4 жыл бұрын
2:50 I would have made a Zelda joke, but that works too
@rokuken6 жыл бұрын
Gilly my man, I think you forgot to put on the freakin arm strap when using the Wiimote, let alone wiggling it that way......and it was funny to see it hit you over and over. 😂
@pundemon96595 жыл бұрын
5:12 Yeah, it's a...good thing none of us have dated someone like that...no siree...super glad none of us have made that mistake...
@EssexAggiegrad20112 жыл бұрын
8:23 It's Rock n Roll Adventure aka Trixie in Toyland aka Anubis II aka Gingerbread Man
@MacheteEnima5 жыл бұрын
My local Best Buy has a copy of Balls of Fury for Wii. It'll be on that shelf forever.
@TheMGMfan4 жыл бұрын
Rock n Roll Adventures _did_ map jumping to a button, but that button is Z of all buttons. They don't tell you this in the tutorial, either, hence why you didn't know; they really wanted you to jump using the motion controls of a Nunchuck.
@supermariof05216 жыл бұрын
If you want a decent shovelware Wii game, might I suggest "Spongebob: Creature from the Krusty Krab".
@aruce95 жыл бұрын
The GameCube version is a Spongebob version of psychonauts
@TheMGMfan5 жыл бұрын
Fire Dust “Decent shovelware” is a contradictory term, since shovelware is by definition bad.
@supermariof05214 жыл бұрын
@@TheMGMfan Good point.
@supermariof05214 жыл бұрын
@God Sammit I've played the Wii version and aside from certain areas where I gotta turn a crank, the motion controls weren't too awful.
@jdb20025 жыл бұрын
You never watched "Santa Claus is Coming to Town", have you? The game seems to follow the plot pretty closely.
@kobachi2325 жыл бұрын
Well, Animal Jam was made by National Geographic
@grahamcaldwell54926 жыл бұрын
8:23 GODDAMNIT ITS TRIXIE IN FUCKIN TOYLAND AGAIN. this is officially the third wii gaem, counting trixie in toyland, that is just fuckin trixie in toyland: trixie in toyland, the gingerbread man, and this heap of garbage
@indumatipngtuber27905 жыл бұрын
Oh damn son, Data Design Interactive??? They are masters of shovelware.
@ArtyIF5 жыл бұрын
"swing the sword down to swing the sword down" incredible tutorial
@lonegalaxy91586 жыл бұрын
Oh god, my brother got the Rock and Roll Adventures game...I ended up getting the Gingerbread Ninja one too, and it took us a while to figure out they were exactly the same game
@chadschmaltz97906 жыл бұрын
It's one of 4 games that were the exact same game re-skinned: Trixie in Toyland, Anubis II, Rock n' Roll Adventures, and Ninjabread Man.
@lonegalaxy91585 жыл бұрын
@@chadschmaltz9790 Oh yeah, I forgot about Anubis...dear lord
@ideitbawxproductions18803 жыл бұрын
Rock & Roll Adventure was actually a re-skin of Ninjabread Man, which got re-skinned into at least 3 other games. if you've played one, you don't need to play the others. they're the exact same game! and no, that's not an exaggeration, all that changed is the textures!!
@Glamikuns5 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe the original 1970’s movie ‘Santa Claus is Coming to Town’, a stop motion movie made out of CLAY has more emotion on their character’s faces than the shitty Wii game made 30+ years later
@TommyDeonauthsArchives6 жыл бұрын
Happy New Year, Gilly! Let's celebrate with some Super Mario Party instead of these bad Wii Games you played.
@kitestar5 жыл бұрын
I feel like if you got to the bottom of a proverbial bargain bin consisting of all the shovelware in recent history, the wii's shovelware will be there
@shadowbladeace16513 жыл бұрын
13:05 I feel the same way about 100% any video game nowadays.
@brobean54376 жыл бұрын
That rock n roll game is the same game as Trixie in Toyland and Ninjabread man. Like, seriously. The exact same engine. That is horrific.
@HexManiacQuinn5 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, I actually owned that iCarly game! Still have it in storage probably, lol. I got a Wii for my birthday when I was 13 and I loved watching iCarly. My dad got me this game because he knew I liked the show. I beat the "story mode" or whatever in like 20mins probably and never touched it again.
@arachat6 жыл бұрын
the army men game gave me whiplash because that was one of the first wii games i ever owned and god it's so bad
@EternalYoshi6 жыл бұрын
Hey that Rock 'n' Roll Adventures game looks mechanically identical to Gingerbread Man and Trixie in Toyland. That level design looks a lot like Trixie in Toyland too.
@WillieManga Жыл бұрын
When playing one of those Data Design Interactive Asset Flips, there is a dedicated jump button. So definitely use the Z button. It'll be a lot more comfortable.
@necroticdemonart5 жыл бұрын
2:52 I didn't expect that
@TheZipperDragon5 жыл бұрын
Dragonblade broke for me, & for some reason let me use the (I'm sure they were supposed to be 'awesome') powers I was supposed to unlock, OR it just never told me I unlocked it. It's been years, but I think pressing the Dpad let you turn your limbs into fiery dragon limbs.
@lifemythanimations66066 жыл бұрын
"I regret this" - Nintendo Man
@thomasarchbold99826 жыл бұрын
Holy shit I had the prehistoric creatures game for like 5 years and I actually beat it after months and months of terrible controls and sharks. I love nostalgia
@PenguinLotion5226 жыл бұрын
2:51 ... i think i've discovered something about myself today
@liamturner13425 жыл бұрын
The Rock n Roll game is from a studio that seems to just swap aesthetics and release the same game several times over. Can't remember the name though...
@purplesam26095 жыл бұрын
1:10 loved that movie as a kid
@thelonelyghost18556 жыл бұрын
Ive actually played the ladt game on ds, maybe it was because i was a dumb kid but i enjoyed myself while playing.i remember the controls being satisfactor and it had a lock on mechanic that made it much easier.
@Joeyroxas6 жыл бұрын
09:04 trixie in toyland reskin XD
@sailormouth83566 жыл бұрын
well gilly i hope you had a great year, and may content get only better
@LeonSteamhawk6 жыл бұрын
Kinda a shame the Army Men game stinks, looks like it might've had a bit of potential as I think the art style looks decent and the concept is neat. Maybe It's just my nostalgia goggles speaking though. My brother and I used to play with army men. We had green (good), gray (neutral-ish), and tan (bad) armies. He'd usually be the gray or green guys, and I had the tan. :)
@420anonymous5 жыл бұрын
I remember playing Army Men (1 or 2, forget which) as a kid on PC, and had a lot of fun with it. Apparently, as the series went on, it went from quality to quantity, as mentioned on the wiki page: "During its later years, the Army Men series was criticized by X-Play[6] and Seanbaby of EGM,[7] for the frequency and declining quality of each new title."
@HeroesRiseUp3 жыл бұрын
Lmao That bondage gear. Gilly wants to be DOMINATED. Holy crap. 😭
@matthewrease23763 жыл бұрын
I told myself I didn't want to watch old vids... Yet here I am.
@WillieManga Жыл бұрын
You know, considerin Rock and Roll Adventure is a reskin of a prototype for a Zool 3D game made into Ninjabread Man, would R&RA be considered a Zool spinoff?
@mathias63695 жыл бұрын
the elvis reminded me of a mixture of the kerbals in ksp and the rabbids in Rabbids go home
@reviewswithgayden32326 жыл бұрын
I'm so scared of the ocean that watching the footage of that national geographic game actually scared me and made me look away. I need help
@Lugiachan-4 жыл бұрын
I remember playing that sea monsters game when I was younger, it was a load of garbage, wouldn't even save right