Gil's Arena GETS HOSTILE Debating The Top 5 SGs Ever

Gil's Arena GETS HOSTILE Debating The Top 5 SGs Ever as Gilbert Arenas and the Gil’s Arena Crew debate if James Harden belongs in the top 5 shooting guards in NBA History which sets off a classic Gil’s Arena Debate where the crew argues over a top 5 of Harden, Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Dwyane Wade and Tracy McGrady.
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[@freckargent]

Debating McCants is like tryna debate with a younger sibling that thinks they're an expert because they saw a tiktok .

[@mauricevanderhall9589]

Nailed it

[@bcbornbrad]

Meat head if he wasnt wealthy he be in jail for sure

[@karithema9ician657]

He more knowledgeable about these topics then all of them majority of the time though.

[@bcbornbrad]

@@karithema9ician657 I think it's just we so surprised. He has intelligent thought at times that we. Remeber it cause it's so rare

[@quinnitadavis7575]

Absolutely

[@nhoodjazz]

THE D WADE DISRESPECT IS CRAZY MCCANTS IS OUT OF HIS MIND

[@shawnjaybrown1276]

We got no respect for D wade...i got klay ahead of him

[@bigjuni2102]

@@shawnjaybrown1276we got everybody on earth ahead of you

[@SolaceMcfly]

​@@shawnjaybrown1276get back in the lab this troll job was horrible

[@Kdsmoovedab]

@@shawnjaybrown1276You smokin crack and it’s laced

[@robk6831]

​@@shawnjaybrown1276 take a lap

[@esotericmanifestation5032]

"I don't go by stats" but he lead his argument for Harden with "he averaged 40 for a month"

[@nickvereen5809]

But they don’t tell you the team was losing bad

[@JohnBoy84]

He does that ALL the time and the only reason he uses that is to discredit Bron

[@jjaytroche123]

If only someone on the couch was really LISTENING they’d be able to expose that reality 💯

[@teamer35]

​@nickvereen5809 no they weren't. Harden won way more than he lost in houston. He was there one deep

[@phoenixventress5891]

😂😂

[@blazedup4208]

McCants logic- I dont use facts and stats for arguments. I use opinions and cuz i said so's😂

[@JBC33]

but also, "ArE wE tAlKiNg AbOuT hYpOtHeTiCaLs!?" anytime anyone else makes an argument whether or not they're actually using a hypothetical.

[@ChefDJ1689]

Man I was just about say this he doesn't care about stats resumes championships none but somehow ranks players based off of what

[@Andre_P-uv1lw]

Skill over strength Mcc 🐜 lol get ya head right. IQ over brute. DWade would torch you in any aspect of basketball.

[@rashawnlnr]

Mj, Kobe, Dwade, A.I., Clyde Drexler

[@lorenllbj88]

THIS

[@woke49]

AI over harden crazy

[@newelldavis1858]

@@woke49Why ?..Harden could never lead a team to the finals and get a game off an all time team like the Shaq/Kobe lakers ..guess u like the triple travel step back 3 and ghost defense Harden plays 😂..A.I all day

[@clarenceandersoniii9306]

What about Joe Dumars? Finals MVP, guarded Jordan the best, and two Championships. I'd take him over Harden.

[@woke49]

@newelldavis1858 Every time somebody brings up iverson it's the same thing 2001 yall casual do know he played 15 seasons in the nba

[@FAT-MARV]

“He averaged 40 points for 40 games so you gotta put him ahead of D Wade”……………….😂😂 Come on man

[@LoyaltyOvaRoyalty1600]

I mean he had to average that, nobody else on his team could score fr

[@haneecamper3100]

Dwade also was great defensively and probably was the best shot blocker at the 2guard ever

[@robk6831]

George Gervin led the league in scoring as many times as Harden and he actually played defense.

[@terrancesimmons1]

D Wade carried his own team to a chip! He also was a key contributor for two more chips. He’s not greater than D Wade.

[@tavoali2972]

@@terrancesimmons1facts

[@inversiondefense]

The dude (McCants) that doesn't have a resume says DWade resume doesn't matter. lol

[@yopyopyopyop1]

mccants b hating on bron & dwade 😂😂😂

[@wth718]

McCant's refusal to consider stats, accolades, actual numbers, makes his arguments boil down whose game you like. Lenny Cook had the game all the tools when he was Lebron's HS rival. But what do his actual achievements show?

[@miyagifatghost2684]

Because he's in that category for his level. That like me bringing up my junior year of HS and How im Best ever because of it😂 thats that coulda shoulda woulda swag! I knew i wasnt D1 and tossed my jackets and trophies instantly because i didnt wanna be THAT GUY holding on its very sad

[@wth718]

​@@miyagifatghost2684Not sure if you're agreeing or disagreeing, but that's Gil's point - you can't just look at what they were at their "peak." You become great by sustained excellence. Flash-in-the-pans need not apply. 😂

[@ReverendSam1]

​@@wth718Who would u consider a "flash in the pan"🤔?? Every players productivity slips as they get older & I believe it's more a/b impact on other players......IMO 😐!!

[@flamingballsofsteel]

@@ReverendSam1Jeremy Lin? Michael Carter Williams, Hassan whiteside, plenty of players popped and fell off

[@datjewellboy]

Does better career mean better player? Is Robert Horry top 5? Playing on a better team doesn't make an individual player better than someone who never had the team to win or clashed with another great run happening simultaneously. I'd rather have pre injury Grant Hill than a lot of players. I'll take one year of a player averaging 30 over 10 years of a guy averaging 15. When discussing better player longevity means nothing. People mix up greatest and best and more talented.

[@AK-fj8yo]

James Harden was clearly influenced by GILBERT ARENAS. I always thought he was Arenas 2.0 early in his career.

[@snupedummy]

No he said Paul pierce and manu

[@dalcow1101]

Way better passer

[@IMABUZ]

@@dalcow1101harden passing is basic passing . Harden is trash . Reg season player .

[@Tb-gz4qt]

@@IMABUZ Thats how i know you dont know shi about ball. You dont have to like Harden but he is undeniably the best passing SG ever, and the best combo guard ever. You need amazing passing to even sniff 7apg for a career.

[@Vastatio]

He talked about modeling his game after Ginobili a few times early in his career.

[@bigo8765]

The D Wade slander is crazy!

[@CashCave03]

Out of control i dont aupport that bullshit he doing with his son but cmon .. then again he was kinda disrespected even befoee that

[@MrSlick999]

The fact that no one never mentions Drexler name when talking about the greatest SGs of all time is disrespectful

[@Ali_Khalifah]

Because his not top 5 that’s why!!!

[@cyberft]

You must be drawing social security.

[@bertneto9618]

is george gervin not considered a 2?

[@Gyjtrdfhj]

@@cyberftyou’ll be there one day buddy if you lucky

[@azelenovic3005]

Were really comparing a dude who has choked in the playoffs for his entire career vs a dude who has a finals mvp 3 years in the league. And all defensive team multiple times and 3 championships. What are we even discussing here???

[@Mdubkc]

That's what I don't get. They are overweighting offensive capability in the regular season vs playoff performance wins/championships and defensive capability. I would rate Dr J and Clyde Drexler over Harden easily.

[@sogravvyproductions4176]

​@@MdubkcEASILY

[@shawncain882]

Harden and Wade are 2 NBA SGs. You absolutely can compare 2 people who do the exact same job. Top all-time lists are subjective. As long as you submit something reasonable, nobody's personal preference should be questioned. Wade is the better all-around player because he's better on defense. But Harden's scoring and playmaking ability was elite, so that can carry a lot of weight for some people's preference. He's carried a lot of weak teams, made the playoffs every year, racked up numerous achievements and has career winning % of 65%, top 10 amongst all active players. The post-season and regular seasons are separated, with different stats, awards, and records. Winning championships is a TEAM accomplishment and shouldn't be the end all be all for top all-time list, if an individual player was elite statistically throughout their career Wade is always ranked ahead of Harden by most people. But don't act like Harden is just some bum who doesn't deserve to be mentioned amongst the best SGs of all-time

[@Mdubkc]

@@sogravvyproductions4176 faxxxxx

[@EddieCane69]

The fact McCants said that’s it’s always a convo between choosing James Harden and D Wade is CRAZY because I never heard anybody but him have that conversation 😂😂😂

[@kevinkamara1953]

Why is this a debate ??😂😂😂

[@realproblem25]

MJ,Kobe,Dwade,AI, & Harden in that order

[@NBADRACO23]

Kobe, Dwade, Harden, AI, MJ

[@KevinHart-kl6wp]

Mj kobe tmac AI wade

[@vanslang5385]

Yup

[@vanslang5385]

MJ, Kobe, Wade, Iverson, Harden (I can only rate players I’ve seen; 1991 - present)

[@PorterPickUp]

Drexler? the Logo Jerry West?

[@CarsonDATDUDE]

McCants so unreasonable. Like he swears he’s right and everyone else is wrong. And DWade??? That’s 3rd Greatest SG of all time

[@thazealot6557]

Give harden shaq or Lebron and bosh he wins also. D wade is top 7

[@CarsonDATDUDE]

Shaq wasn’t in his prime. D Wade was the best player on the team. Also if you wanna go there…. Take Shaq and Gasol away and Kobe top 7. So let’s not do that

[@nolimit_tdot]

@@thazealot6557harden is a notorious playoff choker and you tryna put him over a guy who averaged 36 in a finals😂

[@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m]

@@thazealot6557Hell no he couldn’t even win with Chris Paul, Russell Westbrook Dwight Howard

[@B00MR0ASt3D]

Why doesn’t Jerry west get the respect the other old heads do? Same people putting Bill, Wilt and Kareem in their top 5 Centers won’t even mention The Logo as a top SG

[@Shmuk-bn7ef]

Cause white Only Stockton gets the respect People forget about guards Bob Sura, Rex Chapman, the list goes on. Kirilenko had better stats than Pippen in most categories.

[@ReverendSam1]

He played their position & similar places on the court, so they're not going to b objective..... IMO 🤔!!

[@borganfreeman]

​@@Shmuk-bn7ef You did not just mention Bobby Sura 😂. Bruhhhhhhhhhh

[@joejett5084]

You’re right but also wrong. West is known as a 2guard but really played PG most of his career in the nba. So now the question is why isn’t he mentioned among the greatest PGs? And if he’s not credited as a PG then Curry shouldn’t be either.

[@DiceGameBeatzDGE]

Man them dudes back then are not nearly as talented or skillful...

[@sparksup327]

Jordan, Kobe, Wade, AI & Jerry West for my top5. Clyde, Iceman, Ray Allen, Reggie & T-Mac or Harden for top10

[@jgreed5]

I’d take ray and Reggie over AI any day

[@Tuuufff]

For u 2 say Jerry west i know u a white guy....😂

[@jgreed5]

@@Tuuufff naw my homie from Hampton love west and he only 44. Not a white/black thing. West literally the face of the nba fam

[@sparksup327]

​@@Tuuufff Naw Ima nigga😂

[@sparksup327]

@@Tuuufff Naw Ima nigga😂🤷🏾‍♂️

[@rickchilds7922]

The way Kenyon said at the end, " no she will not".😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@user-zt4su4ku6n]

Like bro he know he capped out 😂 ain’t no way nobody putting Lauren hill over Whitney Houston, Patti labelle, Aretha Franklin, MJB etc

[@rickchilds7922]

@user-zt4su4ku6n is affirmed different when they compared his, Gil and Jennings career....

[@shinsukecorbin425]

⁠@@user-zt4su4ku6nidk about Whitney, but it’s definitely ppl that will put Lauren Hill over Patti and Aretha depending on what you debating

[@user-zt4su4ku6n]

@@shinsukecorbin425 debating who’s a better r&b artist.. idk I never heard nobody in my life say Lauren a better r&b artist than the names I named.. she ain’t got sht on Mary j Blige but that’s beside the point Rashad said she the best

[@EppsFam1027]

The way I yelled “Fuck no” when the clip ended. McCant lost his mind. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@allthegoodonesweregone]

Harden has really played PG for the bulk of his prime. Why do we still include him in the SG debate? Definitely deserving of top 75!💯

[@curtiszyr]

You’re wrong, He’s a combo guard but he’s primarily a shooting guard most of his career. That’s why he’s one of the best guards of all time offensively he can do it all at an elite level.

[@thedon2161]

So has lebron but we keep him at SF

[@robk6831]

I'm not sure how he gets to skip over Jerry West who was more athletic and a better defender.

[@Roadrunner0077]

​@@curtiszyry'all making up positions 😂😂 either he a point or SG

[@Regard-zt7gk]

Harden has 6 years of PG (most past his prime) and 9 years at SG. His last year at SG was the year the Rockets took GSW to 7 games

[@DIMETHEKID]

Mccants definitely be on some bs with his takes, but what he’s saying about tmac being better is not that far fetched. I’ll say there’s definitely an argument there

[@noahjones3769]

I find it funny how right now Gil will say greatness is defined by how long you do it but when they talk about Steph and AI all they do is pivot to just 2001 and forget the other years. I just find it funny.

[@ReverendSam1]

That's because outside the '01 season A.i is forgettable 😐......IMO 🤔!!

[@noadviceplease7489]

It’s a lot more than 01 so lemme break it down for you it’s about 10 all stars(should have been 11 but none in 99 lockout) 4 scoring titles, was better Kobe for the first 6 years, 3rd all time in ppg in playoffs history that’s a lot more than just 01 season

[@tbtoosmoove]

​@@noadviceplease7489yeah he 14 don't mind him

[@Girum8]

@@noadviceplease7489that still doesn’t compare to curry’s career and not to mention AI wasn’t very efficient

[@noadviceplease7489]

@@Girum8 I’m a big fan of AI but I’m not delusional I don’t think he had a better career than Steph the topic was top 5 best sg I don’t know why that other guy brought up Steph

[@IsaiasMGPalafox]

The Disrespect of Ms. Lauryn Hill is wild. Her album is ranked number 1 cuz it still has replay value to this day. Almost 30 years later, it still holds up. U can’t name many albums that can compete w/ that one body of work. 🗣️

[@rafaelmccary6009]

Rashad’s line of thinking is the reason Bill Walton is NBA top 50.

[@penkima4923]

If you're trying to refer to the 50th anniversary team, that was published in 1996, and Walton belongs on that list absolutely.

[@rafaelmccary6009]

@@penkima4923 please elaborate…I can agree with his induction into the basketball HOF, but his body of work as an NBA player…nope!

[@williamhumphrey6578]

@@rafaelmccary6009injuries hurt his career bad. His first four years he was 2x all nba, 2x all defense first team, 2x all star, mvp, and finals mvp

[@nathandodson3220]

lol Rashad said resumé is subjective. The truth is that resumé is far to objective for his form of logic.

[@shinsukecorbin425]

Resumes can only be subjective if both parties are legit similar..28/12/6 or 25/14/8 is basically similar numbers and that’s the only time you can be subjective

[@nickpeacock1896]

Mccants: Numbers don’t matter if you not winning! Mccants: James Harden over D Wade because he put up better numbers.. D Wade 4 rings. Harden 0 rings

[@KingKidGoku32794]

3 rings but yeah

[@nickpeacock1896]

@@KingKidGoku32794 Indeed. Point still stands.

[@dontcallmeblerd3371]

Rashad said he can’t go off stats but earlier said Harden had to be in the top 5 cuz he averaged 40 in 40 games

[@MyDogSteppedOnaBeee]

WTH did I watch a bunch of circular arguments going nowhere 😂😂

[@NUYORK07]

Mccants doesn't understand how sample sizes work.

[@plpa8250]

Pre injury Klay would have been up there. Dude was the literal definition of a "shooting guard" and was elite on defense too. Now, he's not even 50% of what he used to be.

[@kaikawasumi]

Klay a man negative in playmaking ability. Even the best 3&D player of all-time isn't in the conversation. He could NEVER have been THE guy.

[@LeroyGreen-c4z]

Take your young ass to bed lol … Klay Is no one who will be ever mentioned as a top sg of all time

[@penkima4923]

@@kaikawasumi The Warriors had three playmakers already, so it's hard to say what Klay could've done on another team. Klay has great handles.

[@plpa8250]

@@LeroyGreen-c4z take YOUR young butt to bed... I've been watching since the late 80s. The job literally says "SHOOTING guard". And I've watched all the fancy guys with all the moves chuck 40% from the field. In his prime (and probably if he didn't get injured), this guy shoots over 40% from 3. Name me another shooting guard who can shoot for 60 points on 11 dribbles? It's the kids who put too much premium on looks. Whether it's a pretty 360 dunk from the freethrow line or a layup, it's still 2 points... Klay shoots 3s.

[@coolbeans3414]

Him and dwade are the poster boys for SG 💯

[@MindfulAttraction2.0]

Jerry west imo is top 5. I know this dude gil don't respect any old heads but

[@showboat92]

Based on McCants viewpoint on this that you can include people who got injured then you can make an argument for Grant Hill or Brandon Roy to be in the top 5.

[@miyagifatghost2684]

Exactly if we talkin peak only Monte Ellis OJ Mayo Rudy Gay hell the list could go on forever. Naw you disregarding all the players who stayed on top well after you're done

[@damienholley2475]

I was thinking the same thing about grant hill he was next up but he got injured thsts why ppl don’t include him

[@704jizzle2]

TMAC played over 10 years and he was BETTER THAN WADE N GIL wtf wrong with yall

[@Shmuk-bn7ef]

​@@miyagifatghost2684 It's Monta! 😡 I don't know what analyst started saying it wrong got millions of people spelling it wrong forever

[@Shmuk-bn7ef]

​@@damienholley2475He was killin shit before the injury, Grant Hill was operating at a Indiana Paul George level. I ran across him in Chicago a few days ago, sir whole body is toast he move like a nursing home dude without a walker 😢

[@JamesDong-q8l]

Agree with McCants on this one. T-Mac's greatness wasn't limited to just 2-3 seasons. Yes it wasn't as long as D-Wade's, but those 8 or so years he was healthy he was on par with Kobe as the best 2 guard in the league.

[@jasondawson8938]

What about the logo?

[@mpound97]

Most definitely. These dudes are slow...

[@Escobaz96]

They never watched him play, I thought that would be the shadow figure

[@willjamesjr]

1. Jordan 2. Kobe 3. Wade 4. Iverson 5. West

[@flexermc4333]

West is a point guard

[@yahiaali4059]

Harden is not a top 5 sg ?

[@willjamesjr]

@@yahiaali4059 Maybe to some. Just not in mine. AI was better and had less help than Harden has. Jerry West has more finals appearances & has a championship. Harden only recently passed Jerry in points despite the fact that Harden has played in a more high paced offensive era

[@ChristopherBrown-x4x]

1. Jordan 2. Kobe 3. D-Wade 4. A.I 5. ? ( not sure) I can’t include harden though. his defensive was awful.

[@jmoneyforlife3]

Clearly a hater you don’t even know who is 5

[@239jangalang4]

Jordan,Kobe,AI,Harden,D Wade,Reggie Miller,Klay Thompson

[@koppkopp4247]

1- MJ 2- Kobe 3- Iverson 4- Wade 5- TMac Jerry West was a PG

[@suaverico7909]

Wrong 1mj Kobe Dwade Jh Manu Iverson was pg to me

[@TimPowers-cw8fz]

Harden don't belong

[@Buddha238]

Clyde Drexler

[@kingmatt314]

Logo was a SG

[@splash-qi5kn]

Ray Allen over t Mac

[@calvinalexander9284]

In this order: Jordan Kobe Wade Iverson Ray Allen

[@lwalker0306]

Yea I got Ray in my top 5

[@Dranzerl]

You could hard debate ray allen over AI

[@calvinalexander9284]

@@Dranzerl Facts

[@calvinalexander9284]

@@lwalker0306 very underrated in my opinion. Ray was that guy.

[@jahoncourt]

Ray allen become a spot up shooter harden still balling years later stop it where’s his accolades he’s not even the best 3 shooter of all time it’s steph

[@30ESTRADA]

I thought I was gonna listen to a basketball debate but shad can’t understand basic logic again

[@davidmorrison5186]

Jordan, Kobe, Drexler, Reggie, Ray allen

[@codyhuesers]

Mentioning Reggie and Ray and no Wade/Harden is insane. Reggie Miller 5x all star, 3x 3rd team all NBA. He objectively doesn’t belong anywhere close to a top 5 list. Harden and Wade both have significantly more individual accolades, and way higher peaks. Ray Allen has the all-stars (10) but only made all-nba 2x (2nd team 1x, 3rd team 1x)

[@robk6831]

Guys like Allen or Miller didn't have better careers than a Jerry West or George Gervin

[@codyhuesers]

@@robk6831 accolades West has to be 3rd imo. Then I would go Wade, then Harden. Wade over Harden because of playoff resume.

[@johnnguyen6469]

Lmfao bra really said Reggie. Guy wasn’t even a first ballot hall of famer, gtfoh

[@Proteanlife]

No reggie, but others straigh

[@singerlee4446]

James harden is a religious choke artist, d Wade has one of the most iconic finals performances in history, as well as one of the greatest comebacks in finals history. He has 3 rings, a finals MVP

[@joeymanny]

1. MJ 2. Kobe 3. Wade 4. Jerry West 5. Clyde

[@baileywilkins1793]

Also imagine if Wade didn’t get hurt. People seem to forget his injuries. He was on the MJ trajectory’s

[@IronMikeBison]

I agree with McCants. I rank Tmac and rose higher than most ppl too. To me, your top 5 seasons vs top 5 season. That is not a fluke. We don’t need to see 12 year career resumes IMO when we talking who is better.

[@MoonViewJayGaming]

Rashaad is right here Gilbert. If you join other superstars then obviously your stats are gonna drop, becuase now you have multiple superstars getting buckets. You can't act like changing teams doesn't matter. If James Harden stayed in Houston, and never linked up with another superstar, he would still be averaging around 30+ points consistetly up till last season. He averaged 21 points while playing with MVP Joel Embiid (33.1 points per game and that season's scoring leader), Tyrese Maxey (20.3 + Points) and Tobias Harris (14.7 Points)

[@dubclu6]

What Gil is saying about needing to come back again and again to be considered great is kinda true but not either. Even MJ himself didn’t screw with Wilt Chamberlain. Wilt in his prime would have been dangerous in any era. He could shoot, dunk on anyone, out rebound anyone, block anyone, and was stronger than anyone ever in the league.

[@dobson105]

This argument could have ended with 1 sentence... McCants ranks players based on their primes... Gilbert is ranking them by their career..

[@TheCUTS_]

Rashawn reminds me of my students I deal with…just living life figuratively

[@ritzkola2302]

Is McCants just rambling about Boxing?😂 Floyd’s 50-0 is impressive for so many reasons outside of the record. Including the most stacked resume in modern boxing, never being dropped on canvas, fighting championship fights half of his career, fighting a high number of future hall of famers, fighting champs/p4p opposition until retirement for half his career. All while he was older and smaller with broken hands, against prime, stronger, bigger competition with knockout power.

[@clarenceandersoniii9306]

What about Joe Dumars? Finals MVP, guarded Jordan the best, 2x time Champion. I believe he made All NBA 1st team on Defense. I'd honestly take Dumars over Harden, especially if Dumars played today and took the volume of shots Harden did.

[@superphoenix_srt7477]

In their prime who would you pick is what McCants is trying to ask.

[@RedLeo-pf9yo]

James Harden is a point guard. Allen Iverson is a point guard. Sometimes they play small forward, shooting guard, and in small ball they might play a little bit of power forward and center. But they’re still a point guard.

[@LordGreedtheEmperor]

Top 5 SG of All Time 1. MJ 2.Kobe 3.Wade 4.A.I 5.Ray Allen

[@MUKSA_2002]

Mccants is that kid in highschool that sits at the last row of the class and thinks that he now's everything 😂😂😂😂

[@KingDizzleLTDinc.]

MJ,Kobe,Wade,A.I,Ray Allen

[@Krdean2]

No Jerry West huh?? But these dudes is hoopers! And ain't NO WAY Lauren Hill #1! Smh

[@TimmysHR]

Resumes=Greatness Talent=best They are not the same

[@TaitaniumLLC]

They asked for an album Lauryn dropped after Miseducation and it would be unplugged that didn't hit as much as the previous one

[@danielmarrero5772]

McCants is only saying that because it makes him feel better about himself, because he honestly thinks that he was better than he was in the NBA

[@johncoleman3953]

You can't put Harden in front of Wade. Defense and winning have to be considered. Scoring can't be the only consideration.

[@arbashar_]

MJ Kobe AI Reggie miller Ray Allen Tracy mcGrady Vince Carter Wade Harden

[@3fanAI]

Imagine and all time team for one year with Drose Tracy & Yao Ming at their peak

[@btchamp1218]

McCants is the BIGGEST D Wade hater. he makes no sense with this argument smh

[@JunoCentral]

Bro that’s like saying whoever created Baby Shark is a greater artist than Michael Jackson, what are we talking about

[@BIGkeys219]

Gil will forever hate the fact that he wasn't as good as he thinks he was 😂 mf wad good for 2 years

[@DerrickDBerry]

McCants was opposed to longevity arguments and now he’s using portions of longtime to validate his argument. 😅😅

[@baileywilkins1793]

Rashad don’t ever debate accolades because he doesn’t have any lmao. Accolades show your greatness.

[@alexanderdowns6228]

The more I watch this the more I love the show good talk amongst each other, yea a lot of us don’t like Rashard but if you think about it the show needs a bad guy. It won’t make sense for everyone to agree

[@raymondbaker9529]

Type of guy who would think a guy who signs an 1/$10 million contract had more money than a guy who signs a 2/ $15 contract.

[@furmanwheeler3860]

According to Rashad the MVP goes to who ever had the highest scoring game that season.

[@dontsleep5042]

The hypothetical is stupid they could get on crack instead of getting injured and never play again

[@lukewilliams9875]

Rashad is the only dude I know that calls stats “subjective” and holds an eye test or preference over facts lol

[@GregoryWilliams-jw2op]

McNacts wrong on this one. Injury affects every sports and legacies change if you can or can’t play.

[@mykelvillanueva4445]

Crazy how Manu ginobili with 4 rings isn’t in this conversation haha. Just cause he came off the bench????

[@jasonflake9133]

D. Wade was better than Harden. D. Wade was a much better defender, and his Final's performance in 06 was transcendent.

[@joejeffery5454]

That boy mccants struggle to differentiate the difference between talent, and what you’ve actually accomplished

[@MrClbrown33]

D Wade is number 3 actually, then Jerry West, then Allen Iverson..... T-Mac would be above Harden as well. Harden only played one side of the ball.

[@FlashReturns]

Whose the better rapper Jay Z or 50 Cent? 50 has the more popular album, but Jay Z is the better rapper, and it's not even a discussion. That's Wade and T Mac, Wade is Jay Z and T Mac is 50

[@kennyunderwood3602]

1-mike-2-west-3-ice-4-kobe-5-havlachek-6-drexler-7-miller-8-wade..9-pete..10-ray

[@crsolrac]

People putting Harden over Manu is wild.

[@julezjohn5785]

Jordan, Kobe, Wade, Iverson, Ray Allen……in that order

[@bktruth9804]

The JERRY WEST/ CLYDE DREXLER Omission is BLASPHEMOUS

[@GeeOhDee88]

Tracy McGrady on Rashad McCants "He couldn't defend me in the NBA what makes him think he can defend me here (China)?"

[@SoFantasticWonderful]

McCants the type of dude that would think Jeremy Lin is a top 10 player all time if he retired right after Linsanity.

[@skillethead15]

McCants is a clown. By his logic, if Jokic retired right now, he’s the GOAT.

[@chriswhite1919]

i was saying to myself if we are going off McCants the linsanity run makes him better than a lot of players. and i don’t ever want to sound like i’m downplaying A.I but if we are being honest it’s Mj,Kobe,Wade, then A.I or harden

[@Zone6bully]

McCants wasn’t even a mid player

[@1sttakefilms]

😂😂😂

[@MoreSoju001]

🤣🤣🤣

[@jweezy2099]

Please make McCants read these comments for 10 minutes per episode

[@noyce.]

This has to be a segment fr. He on his Stephen A coke.

[@ItzL0s29]

Y’all don’t know more than an ex NBA player LMFAOOOO the fact y’all be thinking y’all do is crazy 😂😂😂

[@jweezy2099]

@@ItzL0s29 LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@trvppsta]

@@ItzL0s29 that don’t mean shit. They all hoop he not the only one he just the only hater 😂

[@ItzL0s29]

@@trvppsta it means a lot lmaoo compared to us it means everything 😂 his opinion is his opinion brother THEY ASKED for EACH OTHER’s opinion

[@mallymelanin16]

Mccants forgot how dwade was before injury he was the 2nd best guard behind Kobe

[@Ryu_Uchiha23]

These are facts my guy

[@younglove3362]

Wade was never better than Tmac. Y'all stay looking at accolades.

[@thegolden807]

@@younglove3362huh ??? What did t Mac ever do … he was a scorer but all around player wade all day he play both sides and can score with the best of them fr

[@kevlamar6613]

I was a Boston fan just for the KG yrs. And im telling you from watching us beat Wade twice... he was the absolute scariest MF is the damn league to face in those playoff years he just had the worst team. Him, with the ball in his hands is frightening from the other sidelines. He was incredible all by himself with no help after shaq left.

[@PFNewsScienceResearch]

He just said yall stay looking at accolades. Without those chips, Wade was just a slasher and carried the ball most of his career.​@thegolden807

[@jalenanderson3111]

Wait when did the consensus top 3 2 guards stop being MJ, Kobe, D Wade?

[@SkBrezzy]

Yk I thought that same thing.

[@brab1242]

it didnt

[@kemarrmoore402]

Wade was never on A.i level..A.i is #3

[@JstnRbnsn]

Never did. I didn’t even know this was a debate. If someone wants to say AI, whatever I’m not going to argue but I disagree. But at worst that makes Wade 4th.

[@SubZer00fucksgiven]

It didn't! Unless rings and stats don't count😂 But seriously if tmac is a 2g and even Kobe said he's special like that... I'll take tmac 5

[@stuartmccleary]

McCants saying Harden over Wade is crazy from a guy who says defense is important. Wade is like #1 in blocks for SG.

[@ghostface3652]

Man I love wade and he’s def more accomplished, but y’all forget how good harden was. Avg 40 ppg for weeks at a time, double and triple doubles consistently

[@MrPrankKing1]

@@ghostface3652yes Harden was a insane scorer no doubt and definitely a top SG of all time… but Wade was different… and let’s not forget Wade defense was miles ahead of what Harden could ever do… basketball isn’t just about scoring and Wade did both and he is a certified winner

[@IlmaliklI]

@@MrPrankKing1dwade wouldn’t take the kd warriors 7 tho…

[@dashawnhicks5384]

@@ghostface3652no we didn’t it’s just wade play both ways and actually lead to winning

[@blacmamba9665]

@@Ty-cs5wland you don’t know basketball dwade would defend your best player, go look at him guarding Kobe, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a SG defend Kobe like dwade did 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@hard-to-handle]

Harden over Wade?? Hellllllllllll nawww

[@guapymg2815]

They forgetting how good he really was

[@justinjones9579]

I mean if you completely ignore the other half of the floor then Harden is better

[@StayTru101]

Harden more versatile and higher peaks

[@hard-to-handle]

Harden no defense an the biggest choke artist in history

[@snupedummy]

Only if prime harden had lebron shaq and the refs

[@Viperboy16]

So Harden was a volume shooter but wasn’t winning no chip. But Dwade was scoring and playing defense being the best shot blocking guard at 6’4 and won a chip ….. man

[@capitanawesome44]

Its not close. Wade and AI i would take over Harden. Harden is a stat guy but Jerry West won and showed up. Frazier showed up big to win finals. Only Harden final he didnt show up.

[@samgunz1]

Harden ain't got no heart... that has to hurt his case.. you can't deny the numbers tho

[@Maal7432]

Harden overrated.

[@Dr.Tony.Cii.]

………..Shaq.

[@samgunz1]

@Dr.Tony.Cii. you mean 12ppg shaq from the 06 finals??

[@jalenedley6795]

D wade averaged 36pts In his first finals 😂 would rather have 40pts average over 40 games or average 40 in the finals where it matters

[@newelldavis1858]

EXACTLY..these guys played in the League but since Kenyon is the only one who competed at the highest level ..there is no talk of winning ..just numbers and flip flopping on Resume etc

[@mubeenabdullah2227]

James Harden over Dwayne Wade is BLASPHEMOUS ! Wade played on both sides of the court ! He was the facilitator, shot maker AND a defensive bulldog with his steals and high flying blocks ! (All NBA defense team 3 times) ... and i didn't even mention his 3 rings !

[@1000_Jeezai]

Absurd

[@holdmyweight3597]

Yall overrate Wade. He was great but he wasn’t better player prime for prime than Harden

[@deandrebankz__]

I don’t think it’s that blasphemous tbh. It’s a argument to be made lol

[@cyberft]

@@holdmyweight3597didn’t he lead his team to a championship?

[@myorder2]

Wade all day - harden folds in the spotlight when it comes count…

[@GOKUKAMEHAMHA1]

I lost brain cells I didn’t even know I had to lose

[@emptytablegaming]

Hearing McCants support the hypotheticals because of his own shortcomings is nasty work 😂😂🍿🍿

[@montbrink4700]

He's a clown

[@Caleb-sl5vn]

😂😂 l

[@dubbzd8853]

Nasty work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@corneliusmcduffie4592]

Exactly... He's all about what ifs

[@ryanporter7400]

He's right about talent..... Who you got Emmit Smith or Barry Sanders?

[@mattmorgan2534]

I literally feel all the more dumber for watching this argument!!

[@hakimmuhammad4090]

They arguing over an opinion trying to use facts lmao

[@gerryspencer1524]

😂😂😂

[@Keepitthorough24]

@@hakimmuhammad4090isn’t that every single Sports debate thou ?

[@hakimmuhammad4090]

@@Keepitthorough24 It is but the discourse nowadays is kinda crazy smh lol

[@deandreporter2398]

He don't go by numbers because his own numbers were trash lmao 🤣

[@emaginetech4128]

😂😂😂😂😂😂 I’m dumbfounded that he is even on this shit

[@dewdesi]

K mart been stopped talking he knew mccants was on some dumb shit😂

[@daweeza42]

Good point!!

[@SamuelMatthew-l6i]

Nah only offensively, no defense for harden