Gimmick or Genius? Reviewing the NEW Madone SLR Gen 7 with Isoflow

[@richardgarrett3188]

I recently received my P1 2023 Madone SLR 9 eTap in Prismatic White. This replaces (or supplements) my 2011 Madone 6.5 in H1 geometry. The fit is quite similar but wow, what a difference in the ride. The new Madone is much more responsive to turns and it will take some time to get used to. The ride feel was much smoother than my old Madone as well, which was a surprise. Part is due to the wider 28mm tires than the 25mm tires on the old Madone but I don't think this accounts for all the difference. Speed is a bit faster for me, but I'm not a racer so can't get the most out of it. I'm quite happy with this bike.

[@johnf285]

$9000 seems reasonable. $9049? NO WAY!

[@PersonaN007Grata]

I don’t have the money to buy one but this thing is so sexy. It’s equivalent to an exotic car.

[@pawsandpedals407]

Your gonna gain a whole .000001 mph with that ground breaking frame hole😂

[@sepg5084]

And that's may be the difference between a winner and a loser in a real race. No need to pay for professional equipment if you're not a professional.

[@vika0194]

@@sepg5084 No it won't be a difference... 1 kg makes a difference. 0.00001 mph makes zero difference. They have enough energy to make up for it.

[@Millicente]

@@vika0194 it does over the many hours of a race in a photo bike throw finish

[@314jrock]

@@vika0194 It don't make a difference for people who do race but it does make a difference for people that do race.

[@f1hotrod527]

I don't care if the hole does anything or not. This think looks like it was designed by the Ferrari formula 1 team engineers. Right color too. Love bright red treks with the white logo.

[@LoaforDie]

The brand is TREK. I couldn’t tell from the small logo on the down tube.

[@rAyBieS25]

they really do ruin the look of their bikes with that unnecessarily big logo

[@xandebikes]

i like the big logos like scott, bmc the ones we see on DH and enduro brands. Short stripes, stripes something more like old racing bike paint.

[@stihldavebergen3469]

Sharp, I have the 2014 Madone 4.3. They have really come a long way.

[@rogerhonacki5610]

Love the new bar design, but I wouldn’t trade the lighter weight of my rim-brake version for this! Also as an engineer, the failure mode of the “Skank-Tail” scares me. Cantilevers should general be avoided if possible. Sure, it’ll flex nice, but if it fails, you’re going to fall back on the fast-spinning rear wheel as you watch your balls get sucked through that aero hole by the tire. I’d tolerate the extra 0.000001 Watt to save my gonads. As far as the weight saved, if you’re under 100kg, just get a 100gm Berk Lupina padded version and save way more weight safely.

[@larlario289]

reflector is a bomber🤪

[@Jamesthebikeguy]

Safety first 🦺

[@xandebikes]

I don't like isospeed and isoflow hole. I prefer the traditional flat tube design with a seat post suspension system, for me it would be more interesting.

[@telostia]

I'd be scared to ride on that... looks like it might break where the isoflow is. With too much flexing comes snapping 😁😁😁

[@Blah-blah-sure]

I'm thinking the same thing. I bet they git rid of the previous rendition b/c there were problems

[@Flashback_Jack]

I'm skeptical as well, but the compliance added to the stiffness properties of carbon probably means it'll be fine. Trek engineers must know what they're doing, I guess.

[@bebopman5]

You'd have nothing to worry about. I've been ridding one for several months on roads with varying conditions and not once have I felt uneasy or squeamish. I ride at 58cm with the seat at it's max height and I weigh ~200lbs/90kg, so if there was something out of order, I'd feel it.

[@universe-juice]

Time trial tech. I like it. I would happily ride it to work, which I would need to do a lot of 🤔

[@douglasadams6543]

Stunning bike

[@JTaco1000]

It looks interesting.. and buy what you want, it’s your money!

[@mjharrisleeds]

I got the size 54 as recommended by trek a dealer. but my legs are short so need the seatpost slammed . There's just not enough adjustability of the seat post

[@franck7036]

Awesome !!!!!

[@antoniosalgado6616]

me encanta esta bici es una maravilla

[@fatpinarellorider]

The isoflow thing _looks_ good, *but* if it's meant to be so fast, why does it have 90's mtb cassette gearing?🤔

[@PersonaN007Grata]

It’s pretty common to go larger chainrings and larger cassettes now since electronic derailleurs have large capacity and it’s more efficient overall.

[@cycleoflife565]

@@PersonaN007GrataDoes electronic shifting eliminate chain rub on the front derailleur when in the biggest and smallest cog in the cassette?

[@Mike-up6go]

I would be afraid of the entire seat post section having an eventual catastrophic failure and snapping off after hitting a good sized bump or pothole on the road. I dont care for how the riders weight is supported on a piece of carbon fiber that is cantilevered from the main structure. For that alone I would stick with the previous design.

[@zachbarker5354]

what size is this in the video?

[@AndrewCJXing]

If I want to choose a different handlebar-stem width/length, do I have to go through P1? Will that be possible to choose on a stock bike?

[@Jamesthebikeguy]

To do it at no additional cost, it would need to be done through P1. But as long as you are willing to buy a replacement bar/stem/install you can do it on a stock bike

[@divinemercy7036]

ditching the reflectors will save some weight too. Upgrading wheels, cassette (DA) and maybe crank and you can save probably another pound

[@Tarmaccyclocross]

It’s a disc brake bike they’re heavy my 10 year old TCR is lighter and faster than that gimmick bike 🤣🤣🤣

[@reenierkendrickdelosreyes9264]

Never did go into if this is a gimmick or not... guess most channels would be afraid to, cept hambini or peaktorque.

[@Jamesthebikeguy]

Did you watch the video? I'm guessing not. I brought up Hambini specifically and suggested viewers to watch it as I am not qualified to talk about aerodynamics.

[@reenierkendrickdelosreyes9264]

@@Jamesthebikeguy I know you did, but there was no specific comment outside your title, seems like this video was a tad too neutral to not piss anyone off.

[@M3GRSD]

I can't believe I'm saying this, but it almost doesn't look like a Madone without the humongous Trek logo, lol Side note: That color is perfect, but why does it have a reflector? lol Seems out of place.

[@Flashback_Jack]

Probably bought in California. In some parts it's illegal to sell bikes without reflectors.

[@mohammedhasan9313]

Just ordered slr 7 gen 7 from a trek store and drove 3 hours away because I got 1200$ off the price. I negotiated with them and emphasized to them that I’m willing to drive 3 hours away from my town to buy the bike from them, and they honored me with that discount on top of 50 days wait time. and my fuel gas costed me only 70$ and they also offered me 12% off to get the high performance R4 tires that come with the blonde side walls. It also makes the bike so clean and nice. I feel absolutely bad for those people that paid 9049$ and didn’t negotiate. The bike was 7877$ before taxes with taxes it was 8349$. AND Michigan taxes is one and half percent lower than Ohio (7.5% vs 6%). This bike drives incredible and I can’t wait to get it soon. 🥹😂 Negotiate Negotiate !!!

[@Blah-blah-sure]

Good for you. Enjoy your new bike ❤

[@solitaryrefinement6787]

16 is the new 15lbs now that bikes have to include disk brakes & Di2 + more aero design. I'm not a Specialized guy, but they're going to slay the market with their 13lb Aethos and no proprietary tech, just some good ol' fashioned 27.2 seat tubes, threaded BB's and those beautiful seat stays where they belong...at the top of the double triangle. BUT...I'm still keeping an eye out for a 2020+ Madone that are plummeting in prices right now owners rush to the new tech.

[@UKMitchy]

I misread it as 'ImSoSlow'

[@Jamesthebikeguy]

Lol

[@the.communist]

Dont know but one thing for sure, i wont be buying one second hand, its a disaster waiting to happen

[@dannym5468]

A little over $9k is too much unless you're actually using it to race.

[@JJ-rf7dg]

Gimmick. Must go extremely fast or go against the wind on a windy day.

[@jesuscruz836]

Gimmick or Genius? Gimmick. A claimed 3 watts at 45kph. First, vector wings, ISO speed, and now ISO flow... ALL gimmicks.

[@humprey2]

Definitely not the lightest aero madone! I used to own the first gen Madone 9 and when built up (at 60cm size, ultegra di2 and aero wheels) came it at 16.09... !

[@humprey2]

But hey, this was the rim brakes...! Long live rim brakes!

[@Jamesthebikeguy]

Lightest disc brake madone frame as stated in the video

[@harrygrimley4352]

What world does someone live in to be able to justify that kind of money for a toy? Thanks for sharing this with us. It is pretty.

[@sepg5084]

It is not a toy, it is professional equipment. No need to buy professional equipment if you're not a professional. You can always buy a cheap bike. People spend more on toys than this. Yachts, super cars, etc. are "toys", it's not like most of the billionaires buying them are professional yacht racers nor car racers.

[@daryl4841]

As expensive as cycling can be(it doesn't have to be) its cheaper than some other hobbies out there, even if this is your bike. I have family members who spend more than this on things like motorcycles, snowmobiles, horses, boats, etc.

[@Blah-blah-sure]

Even I have to agree that it's pricey. Let alone the resale value next year will drop tremendously. Which is why I I couldn't justify it.

[@richards.4116]

I'll pass

[@Tarmaccyclocross]

Total gimmick bike for the all the gear no idea mob

[@ageofsigmar7236]

Scary by looking at the seat post it breaks anytime😳

[@Blah-blah-sure]

I believe it will. Too me a bad design. Imagine the average rider let's say 159Lbs & upwards of 200. When you hit bumps. That iso flow area is going to eventually break imo.

[@ignaci2330]

@@Blah-blah-sure the fact that there's a center hole doesn't meant is stronger, all goes in the process involved in the carbon fiber treatment, i'm not a trek fan for his prices, i think they are too overrated but on quality, if you break one, it comes failed from fabric or you don't treat them well, on on normal conditions, i don't think it snap just because a bump