Longer Games #2 Climbing the 2500 mountain... Nice way to climb Simon!

In this online game I pick a longer time limit, 15+10, my aim is to really explain the thought processes behind the moves that I am playing.
Hopefully this will help you understand better the way I think, and the way Grandmasters approach the game.
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[@ThisSentenceIsFalse]

Who posts their terrible blunders? The awesome Ginger GM does. The magic of integrity where you lose a game to an annoying prick, but win in life as a person.

[@jjejjsjjejjs]

I ran this game through lichess. After he blundered away his opening, he suddenly played flawless chess - zero inaccuracies, mistakes, or blunders.

[@MrMoeqt]

Simon Williams hahaha loool

[@vladimirsvinin7083]

Ginger_GM vs Stockfish 8

[@sinchaos5493]

the true value of the game is your thought process, win or lose is less important. Thank you for putting the best chess videos online!

[@jjejjsjjejjs]

Simon, that fresh haircut is worth 200+ ELO points.

[@tommonk7651]

Simon, though it's natural for your to be pissed off about a loss, particularly a suspicious loss, you should never worry about the result in these videos. They will be great for us regardless of the result. The commentary is what is important, the helpful hints about strategy and tactics, the discussion of openings, the thought process. All of that is great! Don't worry one bit.

[@rittervsp]

You are really brave snd honest heart to upload this video! I like watching your explainaitions, I like your emotions - it is so true (of course I would prefer more positive emotions for you). And as for me - I always miss somethin when opponent annoys me so badly. Think about turning off the chat. P.S.: Charlie is so cute!

[@GreenTornado]

VadVansky Jerry (Chessnetwork) turns off the chat. I didn't know why he did that, but now I do.

[@MrSupernova111]

I'mg glad he uploaded it. Everyone needs to see that ches.com is infested with cheaters and they are not all rated 2500+ as cheaters will mix their moves with computer moves.

[@pc6663]

He felt humiliated after losing to you with such an opening, rationalizing that only a cheater could accomplish such and then turned on his engine. His play style and tempo changed drastically as soon as he realized he was losing the rook no matter what.

[@GreenTornado]

Patrick Connolly This just proves how unbeatable engines are. You can be down a rook against a GM, and the engine can turn the tables in just a few moves. It's incredible.

[@pc6663]

It is amazing. Androids (future us) will be chess gods. The calculation ability mixed with human strategic conceptualization. Although sometimes this is a weakness, would Simon have blundered if he didn't FEEL comfortable with his position?

[@GreenTornado]

Patrick Connolly I don't know. Blunders can happen at any time. One of the main reasons he blundered was, as he said himself, that he moved a bit too fast at that moment. It doesn't help when he is explaining himself for us, too. I personally believe he confused himself with all the explaining and calculating he did, thereby making him miss that tactic with the undefended queen. What is your view on this? Do you agree with what I have just said?

[@BuddhistProdigy]

Patrick Connolly t Totally agree except I think he was using the engine in the opening too. A couple of times Simon knows there is only one good reply to a move he just made and this patzer finds it in seconds.

[@pc6663]

PrzedSem. I do agree on second watch, the combination of accurate moves with the loss of time and decentralization of the queen taking the rook in the corner made for some uncomfortable counterplay. So Simon probably didn't feel too comfortable.

[@peternielsen7911]

Finally somebody called out your safe-playing, pawn-saving, theory-accurate computer plays. I mean, it's so obvious and I was surprised it didn't happen before!

[@alexlivshin]

Blunder aside, you lost to a computer, Simon. The guy's account has just been banned on chess.com for violating Fair Play.

[@protectedmethod9724]

I guarantee you that after he started losing he got mad and turned on his engine.

[@seanmorgan9055]

fiq92 has had his account closed on Chess.com for cheating.

[@lezamac6]

Sean Morgan really? awesome!!!!

[@seanmorgan9055]

Hey Simon, just want to say thanks for your youtube videos, they're awesome! Just bought Sokolov Explains from the shop. You ought to get some t-shirts up there!

[@s3pp18]

I think this is the 3rd video I've seen where Simon calls the queens gambit the queens Indian lol

[@s3pp18]

Matt Walker still not a queens Indian it's queens gambit declined

[@fakecubed]

Okay, yeah, that really confused me but I assumed GingerGM knew better than I did what things are called. Glad I'm not crazy.

[@Mr-fy6zb]

Simon, unfortunately you lost to stockfish or fritz, but keep your head up, against an actual player you would have won. I hope you keep posting these timelimits

[@alpulley4894]

Unfortunate loss, probably he switched an engine on. Keep the series going!

[@OddWhite]

Ran the game through lichess's analysis board. Small wonder that after 12.Qxh8 he played the engine's first move except for one or two moves, where pretty much any move kept the advantage. Also, his tactics, blitz and bullet ratings are CRAP. So, don't take this to heart, Simon. Keep on keepin' on!

[@anshusharma1983]

It is so unlikely that a 1900 someone would be able to find Bh3 so easily. Moves like Rd8 look so natural and tempting. Very suspicious indeed

[@anshusharma1983]

Thanks for the information. Extremely interesting, during the video it seemed to be an engine move

[@numcrun]

Stockfish on lichess says Bh3 is the best move.

[@TheUniversitet]

I am pretty sure that guy was using engine

[@Odrox]

Very suspicious indeed . His ratings in blitz and bullet are 1087 & 1023. A comment on his profile called him cheater too.

[@ASMRChess]

I've been called a cheater by a lot of people. It's a go-to reaction of many people to accuse their opponent of cheating when they get crushed. So we shouldn't put too much stock in some comment on his profile. His very low blitz, bullet and tactics ratings though - that's another matter! Nobody plays like this in standard and at 1000-ish level in bullet. I'm pretty confident this guy was getting computer-assistence.

[@toequantumspace]

I am very weak in blitz, I just can't think in 3-5 mins timeframe. I am way better in classical 10-15 minutes games. I think, especially for older people like me, it is quite normal. However, in longer games, you need to trust your opponent much more :)

[@kinglear5952]

That is the problem.

[@javipdr19]

He played super fast too

[@Leon_Aldrich]

He is a GM from the United Kingdom. I own 3 of his books. He has coauthored dvd's/chessbase/etc with other Grandmasters. I haven't checked his account; more than likely it's a 2nd account used for training (i.e. these youtube videos). p.s. His opponent is near Expert rated as well. It was surprising to see Ginger blunder.

[@tarunkumaraggarwal4706]

i think this is the video every player should watch. It shows danger of a sharp position and teaches how to handle the bad position/ a loss.

[@stollenstrolch]

It also teaches you, why nobody wants to play longer time limits against strangers.

[@MrSupernova111]

It mainly teaches you that if you want a legitimate game of chess you need to play OTB because often times the other guy across the internet could very easily be using a program. Chess.com is infested with cheaters - probably the worst site to play on.

[@knightwish1432]

Hello Simon Williams, thank you for uploading this video despite of your blunder in this game. You are really such a nice guy, its almost incredible, i dont think that any other GM would post such a loss here! And it shows us that even GM can make mistakes, they are human, too. What an idiotic opponent you have faced here, thinking you are using a computer ?! Crazy.... Im looking forward to see many more videos from you, greetings from Germany! By the way, your DVD´s are great, i have purchased your "Killer d4" and its a really good repertoire for white!

[@schachprofinot7264]

I know this video is six years old, but it is still worth watching. Thanks, Simon, for being authentic! Unfortunately, the manners of the online players sadly have not improved since ...

[@circleviii1801]

I think it's really down to earth of you to post a game like this. Very instructive, much respect Simon!

[@toequantumspace]

I liked when the Cat came to comfort you :) I wait for more long games, very educational and entertaining

[@sergeiivanov8119]

I think the quality and usefulness of analysis do not really depend on the result of the game.

[@Socrates...]

I was thinking that myself

[@Crazeyfor67]

Simon this was still a good video. You always make me laugh out loud. So you are winner even when you lose. Thanks again

[@chancenyc2708]

The human element of your emotions being captured on video is simply PRICELESS! Hilarious in a great way. Ever thought up stand up ?! In all seriousness, your charismatic nature and gracious mannerisms should be applauded and appreciated. Keep these videos coming !! They are simply BRILLIANT!!

[@soinorman]

Your honesty only enhances your reputation Simon. And our reputation is the only immortal part of us.

[@GranthamAtHome]

Simon. You are an absolute hero keeping your cool against this arrogant and ignorant cheater. I love your comprehensive analysis from start to finish and this series is incredibly instructional for us lesser mortals.

[@danielwebb1645]

This opponent played with 1 inaccuracy, 1 mistake, 0 blunders, and 20 average centipawn loss according to Stockfish 8. That is very hard to do naturally.

[@schrodinger2223]

Not at all, I'm at ~1900 in online rapid and after going over my games I often get centipawn losses around 20 and sometimes lower. What is suspicious is not this, it is the speed and accuracy that the opponent played material up in a still unclear position, against a GM no less! I dont know about you, but If I were a queen up against simon williams with 13 bloody minutes left, I would damn well use the 13 minutes.

[@danielwebb1645]

I'm mostly referring to the combination of all those things, not just one piece of it.

[@rudiepunk85]

I'd add that this was highly tactical very sharp game and this results in much more average centipawn loss since you have to almost always find the only move and slight inaccuracies result in much more centipawns

[@jivko777]

Dear GM Simon Williams, apart from his last move, Bh3, your opponent was following Stockfish 8's top 1-2 suggestions. I can not say with certainty that he cheated, but it is likely that he did (chess.com blocked his account). Also, his "allegation" that you were using a computer says that he probably had an engine running next to him and your moves were matching his engine's (which they did!). Well, we know that you were following your own suggestions from the "Killer d4" DVDs. But even if we follow Stockfish 8's top suggestions for Black, before you blunder with 0-0, you had a very sound advantage of +1.00 to +2.00! This means that, if you played correctly, you would have (very likely) come out with a much better, if not winning, position. And this to me says a lot about the quality of your suggestions in the "Killer d4" DVDs. I bought the DVDs from your website and, so far, I thoroughly enjoy your lessons there! Best wishes and I look forward to your next video in this time format!

[@numcrun]

Bh3 was also stockfish's top move.

[@MrSupernova111]

Great observations!

[@PatrickFestaPatman]

I find it amazing that you can even play so well while telling your opponent what you're thinking. Not to mention making this video at the same time.

[@Pedone_Rosso]

Just dropping in to thank you for this new series. Very interesting, and gingertaining as usual. (I watched the first video, I'll watch this second one later tonight, when I'll have more time to enjoy it) Thanks for your videos!

[@henrymethorst9108]

this video is why I love GM Redhead

[@sprcow]

Thanks again, Simon. Really appreciate the longer videos. I think it's very helpful to see someone actually implementing the advice "If you see a good move, look for a better one." I think I am really prone to picking the first move that looks good and missing other opportunities. The blunder was a bummer, but it definitely reinforces the idea!

[@Combsdave1]

It's always easier to learn from your losses. Great video. Love the format and the production quality keeps getting better and better.

[@eldosumbetov1999]

Don't worry, lad. Keep doing new longer games videos! You're the best!

[@muhammadrizwan1223]

That is y, I love your explanation and analysis. You are an honest man. During first longer game I was thinking if someone is getting help from computer than what..??? Than I thought may be u have some kind of arrangements/preparations for it. We love your longer game analysis. Please continue this series.

[@jamorrison82]

Simon I just wanted to tell you I admire you for posting this. There is just as much, if not more, to be learned from our victories as our defeats. Even if the guy was cheating, which it appears he was, you handled this with tact. I will always be a supporter and viewer of your videos! Thanks for all the great chess insights.

[@warre1992]

I know a lot of people who wouldn't upload this video. Tremendous respect and keep those videos coming man! Cheers.

[@Socrates...]

I love these longer games, please continue to play them.

[@MrMartinmozz]

Do love the longer games, gives us NOOBS more time to work out what the hell is going on lol Great resource thanks :)

[@gratitude62]

Simon, you rock......enough said.. more video's, i welcome and admire your work and perspective upon the game.

[@richardlancelot3829]

So after move 12, they always played the computer move until the end...

[@donoranchess6671]

Props for putting up a loss on KZbin. I'm really enjoying these videos, thanks Simon

[@fertedin]

I saw the tactic 2 moves before and I am an amateur player (really I thought you were going to put the R in d1 before castling), but the thing is that you are explaining and calculating at same time, it is completely logic that you will miss something, mainly in a tactic game! I liked you post the video anyway, so we can learn also from your mistakes. It is nice, keep playing longer games, please!

[@stollenstrolch]

It's a very obvious move and a 2000 elo player will easily spot it with his back to the wall - you focus on those cheap shots when they're your only way out. What really makes him suspicious is the speed with which he continued. When you have a material advantage against a GM, you simply don't blitz out the moves with 13 minutes on the clock.

[@fertedin]

I was saying just that is normal Simon to miss some tactic when he is explaining everything to us. Really, I don't know how he does to not miss more things in the middle game. About the another player: I agree that he was moving too fast with a lot of time in his clock after he took Q, taking an unnecessary risk to miss anything with a much better position and he didn't play very well the opening so it is .weirder too.

[@fertedin]

I need to buy your DVD about London system, I have played it today in a blitz tournament and made 8/9 (4/4 with White playing London!) I will check how can I pay it (the problem for me is the payment method).

[@joeb4142]

Loving this series Simon thanks 👍🏻

[@GreenTornado]

Someone should run this game through Lichess's analysis board engine thingy. See if his rude opponent was having help. Even I'm quite suspicious about his play. Most of his moves were played so quickly (hence he still had over 13 minutes at the end of the game), even in the more tactical/critical moments. Yes, there is a very good chance that he got lucky (despite Simon blundering) and is actually a lot stronger than a rating of 1976, but it wouldn't hurt to run it through an engine.

[@pandabearguy1]

his blitz rating is 1089

[@GreenTornado]

erlend myhre There we go. That's another good sign.

[@bakkouz]

Obvious cheater! Lichess Stockfish analysis says his numbers are: 1 Inaccuracies, 1 Mistakes, 0 Blunders. So either he is a Super GM or a cheater.

[@shrikant236]

i have seen cheaters on chess.com and his moves shows that he is also one of them

[@toequantumspace]

bakkouz thanks for running this game on lichess. Very sad indeed

[@nikhilip9]

The tactic that won your queen is not expected to be realized by some 1 who is 1000 rated (as he is in blitz where its difficult to use a computer). But sometimes its possible that average players do spot such tactics. That can be ignored as luck. But the fact that he played so accurately for the rest of the game is extremely suspicious. You may argue that blitz and longer game ratings can be different, but they cant be so far apart. Extremely suspicious guy. But enjoyed the video. Please keep doing more of these. if finding opponents (or fair opponents) is a problem, please try to arrange a rivals match in this time control. It will be so much fun ! Thanks for entertaining us :)

[@slowBeat]

Thanks for going through and posting this. I like how you handled the loss, cheater or not. Working on taking my losses better. Longer time is awesome! Great videos as always.

[@samlinder307]

Interesting how John played a suspicious player in his last video as well. Don't worry Simon, you've only gained my respect after watching this video.

[@maikarets2361]

I guess I don't want to say I enjoyed this considering the opponent didn't play fair. However, @Gingergm: I really do enjoy your videos and think the longer time limit are a nice, different way to cover the game than your regular blitz, which I also really like. Don't let cheaters get you down and keep making videos!

[@AgentSmith911]

The lichess.org community is so much better than the toxic one over at chess.com

[@browsedeweb8834]

Agree!

[@gdounito]

Hoss Cartwright definitely. chess . com is full of abusers

[@shreddits684]

Thats not my experience. I regularly get rating points back because I played a cheater on Lichess

[@VivekGawande1]

Mathias Nesheim does that happen on chess.com too?

[@BSAT10]

Thanks Simon I learned a lot from the video I'm always impressed how fast you can calculate the position Playing live and doing commentary at the same time brilliant

[@gregainsborough9866]

Thanks for the honesty! Definitely will purchase some videos!

[@NatheRose]

Still love the longer time limits, Simon! The fact you uploaded this despite making a blunder is what your fans love about you - you show the full range of emotions we all feel, rather other GMs for which it's all about ego.

[@lezamac6]

Nathan Rose i like videos where there no cheater opponents

[@tommessig2060]

these are amazing! keep these coming

[@richardlancelot3829]

Also, I absolutely love these videos. You're amazing at explaining positions in an easy-to-understand way. I love it.

[@itsraghavhere]

Hi Simon, thanks for uploading this video. I have learned a lot from your lessons and I really admire your sportive attitude. I'll make sure to follow your journey over the 2500 mark!

[@ahnafpa]

Huge Respect to you sir for posting this.

[@rizqiefajar]

It's so sweet that charlie comes right after simon lost

[@AsianNinjaGod]

His first few moves seemed legit. But around the 7th move it seemed like he realized he was much worse and began using an engine. Only 2 of his moves were different than Stockfish's from that point, and not even one inaccuracy.

[@inguh7041]

My condolences. Thanks for uploading the game, all the same.

[@edilubej6509]

I admire your videos on KZbin, Simon. Keep on presenting them - they are very educational and with excellent sense of humour. As a chess player I am ashamed of swindlers like fiq92- they should be banned from Chess.com for ever.

[@gavinthornton1591]

Great content. very informative. It's good for me to hear your thought processes. Thanks

[@Gingerbiscuit16]

Love the new series! Especially love charlie the cat :D. Nevermind a loss, still a very informative game.

[@perandersbjorn]

Still lovin' it Mr. Williams!

[@IntSavior]

You're still the GM. Period! You're so humble to upload the game to KZbin though you had no idea he was cheating.

[@OctoberLandon]

Win or Lose, I love your games! Thank you for explaining things so well. I"m learning a lot! :-)

[@dhruvjain4584]

the thing is not that he was playing good moves..he played the entire game within 2 minutes too. its suspicious for sure. still loved the video..its not actually a road to 2500 if it does not have any bumps! and..thank you..one thing i have learnt from both you and john is how to manage my time.. !

[@btlhorwood]

Look at that guys bullet and blitz rating. No way he's beating a GM in rapid.

[@tentoff1]

From move 8 to the end (except move 20 and move 31) he played the #1 computer move. Not just "excellent" or "good" moves or whatever, but the EXACT #1 stockfish move. And he did it quickly. I agree that 1 game is not enough to prove cheating, but the odds that he found all those moves and has such a poor blitz rating are astronomically low.

[@PatrickFestaPatman]

Love This!

[@pushkar260]

there is nothing like Charlie for consoling during any defeats

[@dreamchop735]

Still instructive Simon! Especially on a psychological level.

[@tims2532]

Kudos, for keeping your cool against that player. Definitely was suspicious. But you kept a professional attitude. Hope you keep doing these kind of videos anyway.

[@javipdr19]

Guys, he's account has been closed for "violating our Fair Play rules". Good on chess.com staff from keeping these people out of their site!

[@MrSupernova111]

Cheating on chess.com is rampant. I closed my account recently for the same reason. I have seen people play like 1000 rated players to then turn into super gms. At other times I have seen them mix their own moves with computer moves. Chess.com is infested with cheaters. I closed my account there because I got tired of dealing with cheaters. Lichess is far better in my opinion and they deal with cheaters swiftly unlike chess.com. I plan on opening a chess24 account soon as I imagine they do a much better job dealing with cheaters than sites like chess.com.

[@joneskamikaze6228]

thank you for posting this! Losing is part of the game, as all we patzers know! I agree with you to play more positional.

[@philippedegremont3073]

Thank you Simon for all those very educating videos. Still don't understand this absence of honour of those cheaters and why ? Those people will have hard time to face themselves in a mirror. Not our problem ! Keep playing funky ! All supports!

[@Para-rt9uk]

Been watching you for years. Decided to rewatch the longer vids. It's funny, after you losing Charlie came along and put his bum in your face.

[@sleepy4x]

Background is better than the jail picture. You shurely ment Queen's Gambit and not Queen's Indian. The Gambit Line you spoke of at 2:18 cxd4 is the von Hennig-Schara Gambit. Interesting game. I hoped you would win.

[@cpad007]

Cheating or not, you did blunder badly for some odd reason but it was still very insightful to see your play after the blunder. We all blunder and we all need to learn how to do our best to try and rectify the blunder. Sometimes we'll recover, other times we won't. I still like the longer games and next time, perhaps, kill the chat!

[@jessevick7369]

cpad007 hard to win vs stockfish

[@paulospaulou7361]

Man u are just great! Greetings from Greece! Take care man. We love u!

[@stephenkelly834]

love the longer games simon (even when you lose) . It was very suspicious play from your opponent but either way whether he cheated or not don't let it get you down and please keep the videos coming

[@flpsnk4848]

He has gotta be so angry that he would turn on the computer himself and be a swindler. Good job! I think he is feeling better now...

[@michaelmachos8969]

Thanks for the instructive session, Simon! Glad they caught the CHEATER!

[@danielribeiro5636]

Hey man. Nice game. Good lesson. Keep focused til the end. Thanks

[@i1pro]

Good job Ginger. Thanks so much for posting this. must be hard to comment and play at the same time. Please use more arrows as you study the variations. I'm a newbie so keeping up with square names is still hard. Loved the tactics! keep up the good job. everyone looses, even Bobby Fisher lost some ;).

[@donha475]

I want to see more of these long games. keep going simon :)

[@boceksiadam]

This guy played with John Bartholomew a few times as well. I think he lost all games. His rating is a little higher now, but he didn't strike me as a cheater back then. I think he's just good enough to spot a blunder and win the game of it.

[@felixchess5]

Love the way you explain with this time control. Keep it coming! Question though, after Qxg7, doesn't Qg5 defends against capturing his rook?

[@CatRocketMoo]

Respect for uploading this. Damned shame the guy not only a cheat, but a cheeky sod too !

[@itsmegurupad]

Great opening attack, that was. Get to 2500 soon, you will. Hrmmm.

[@owninggreendragsdude]

This series is great, keep it going! Actually kind of nice to see that even a GM can blunder. Too bad it was against such a cheeky bugger

[@Scenery505]

Whether the other guy cheated or nor, cheers for uploading it Simon.

[@davehumphreys1725]

It's nice to see that GM's are human after all! I know that cheating is a big problem with on-line chess, but [ and I'm sorry to rub salt into the wound], even as a lowly 1340 player, I could see that your UNDEFENDED queen on e2 was ripe for a tactic [ I watch a lot of John Bartholomew's videos!] and, of course, you are commentating as well. Still, thank you for doing your bit to help us lesser mortals improve our game.

[@sheledon3272]

I love the longer time limit

[@jkysam]

Simon's opponent was failing tactic puzzle's rated ~600 on chess dot com just a couple of months ago. There's no way he's not playing rapid games with engine assistance.

[@masaya7]

Thanks GingerGM

[@georges64]

Thx Simon, Very interesting game, don't feel bad to play against a computer, what matters is the Great Quality of your comments!

[@erikibarra4530]

nice video. POST MORE !!