Giorno with EVERY STAND vs. EVERYONE??

[@Enes_L]

Silver Chariot Requiem + Death 13 is generally an insta win They are surely other insane combo but this one is terrifying.

[@MrMcGee-yc1oq]

My favorite combo would be Geb, Aqua Necklace, and Clash. Maybe Deep Blue Moon depending on how the rules of Geb and Aqua Necklace work.

[@Urancassify]

Chariot Requiem gets hard countered by characters with inorganic physiology type 2. For Death 13, you need to knock someone out unconscious so that it could be useful. In summary, both are very fodder in vs debates.

[@Enes_L]

@@MrMcGee-yc1oq Geb can works on its own, the others rely heavily on water/liquid presence. Throw Weather Report in the mix and you get a deadly rain for Aqua Necklace, Clash and even Hanged Man to act freely. Wind manipulation would allow to kinda manage Purple Haze ability too.

[@brandonadrien3476]

Zenitsu: Just another day like usual

[@MrMcGee-yc1oq]

@@Enes_L I was thinking more like, since geb is water, aqua necklace could combine with it and make it so that geb can also take different forms like steam. Then clash is just there cause it's my favorite stand. Deep Blue Moon is only there because I had to question how much water could Geb and Aqua necklace control. If it's big enough then Deep Blue Moon is just extra insurance.

[@cheatsykoopa98]

the thing with giorno with every stand is he has GER, love train, wonder of u and highway to hell too, so not only every bad thing that happens to him will be redirected to someone else or undone, also the calamity will affect everyone else and if someone manages to hit him, it will hit them back

[@cheatsykoopa98]

also soft and wet go beyond. they cant do anything about being hit with its bubbles because the attack doesnt exist

[@yumnits2946]

Plus Tusk Act 4 literally turning people into sitting ducks

[@0x6a09]

@@cheatsykoopa98 and he'll at the same time will have paisley park, so he will be able to aim go beyond with perfect accuracy (doubt he'll need that when he have a ton of other more powerful in terms of destructive power ranged attacks)

[@NightWing1800]

To be fair, in a versus battle between these franchises, theres an NP for a character who doesn't even scale that crazy that "allows the owner to achieve their aspirations." and just gives her every advantage possible inside the area. There is a servant who carries a conceptual shield that means they can only be hurt if they think they should have been hurt and has tanked gods capable of destroying and recreating the universe. There is a character who could cut the concept of a hole in their dimension created by a primordial god. I think that last one pretty soundly negates love train, since Gyro's way of hitting Valentine was to break dimensional walls. And Wonder of U would be negated by most of fate because a lot of their stuff deals with "Conceptual weapons" and ways of getting around that, which is just that universes way of describing what Go Beyond was. There's also more than one servant whose Noble Phantasm explicitly let's them escape the concept of time. Jojo is definately cool as hell, and for real life it's the pick with how much practical utility it has. But a versus battle, Fate just scales nonsensically.

[@ДюсековИльяс]

@@NightWing1800fate is just stupid, and I love it for it

[@ONEPEAKFRFR]

Thank you.

[@hadchfur]

heaven's door bro

[@redcatTN]

❤❤❤ Yes

[@raeldrews1187]

yes pearl jam

[@Nonexistentbystanderhere]

Hey ya: *i gotchu bro*

[@JeanPierrePolnareff69]

Hey ya

[@Miguel_I_guess]

But can he beat the thunder cross spilt attack?

[@WDYMeeeeee]

He can't

[@brokenursa9986]

The Thunder Cross Spilt Attack ignores the logic of the universe. It can beat any of Giorno’s defenses.

[@ProjektTaku]

thunder cross split attack is stated to be the perfect defense and offense, meaning all of giorno's offensive attacks are nulled and all of his defenses are bypassed.

[@Miguel_I_guess]

@@ProjektTaku also even with time stopping stands and even the speed of MIH the Thunder Cross Split Attack has such a large element of surprise it slows down your reflexes until giorno is too slow to dodge it. thank you for listening to my speech

[@WilliametcCook]

He doesn't have Dio's freezing ability, but he _does_ have White Album.

[@Buurardo]

Fate is a goddamn rabbit hole for powerscaling like having a Spear that directly scales to your Vitality so it always deal lethal damage and then Reverses Cause and Effect to always hit their Heart is considered just a pretty good Noble Phantasm with plenty of Counterplay

[@ghitaianis9022]

Well in the same series luck is a stat that manipulates cause and effect attacks.

[@PEARLSTOTHEPLAYERS]

Case in point : Rho Aias The magical energy apparently overwhelms Gae Bolg's but like...how does it even block it in the first place? I thought Gae Bolg already pierced the heart before the attack even starts? Gae Bolg is a fucking nightmare to comprehend?

[@danendraarkananta9442]

What you said is true but you never reach the truth

[@Buurardo]

@danendraarkananta9442 like I said plenty of counterplay in Universe takes the top of other verses to Nullify

[@raikasha8152]

​@@ghitaianis9022Cu Chulame has two variants of a Gae Bolg special attack. One is the the funny hax instant death kill and another is a really powerful bomb. Which is what Rho Aius blocked

[@heheatlas]

Can we talk about how Wonder of U just says "Nuh uh, you don't hit my character! I dodge AND you die!"

[@demi-femme4821]

The only ways to beat Wonder of U are to take it away via reality warping or to attack it with something that doesn't exist like Go Beyond.

[@penkere5716]

Ger would stop that from happening@@demi-femme4821

[@moorhseroms]

Literally playing with a lil kid

[@mr.tmdtlstwmkyiifkcr]

​@@demi-femme4821ishiki from ocean resilient:

[@arneshpal7702]

ger + wou

[@datboy038]

Giorno with every stand: Attack: Beyond infinity,completely unavoidable Speed: Immesurable-Omnipresent Defense: Above all dimensions including fate/plot manipulation Destructive capabilities:Universal+ at bare minimum(low 2-C) Bonus indirect effects: Type 8 to 9 immortality Inaccessible speed Multiple types of damage reflection Reality manipulation He’s novel Kars basically

[@ovori6399]

who has universal+ destructive capabilities tho?

[@rdude309]

Wait, does novel kars count to this?

[@datboy038]

@@rdude309 no hell no 💀

[@datboy038]

@@ovori6399 a healthy combo of Made in Heaven and reason

[@Flamme-Sanabi]

There are tiers to immortality??

[@nuclearz3r076]

Wonder of U and Love train combined are terrifying. Wonder of U ensures that the attacker will meet a calamity, and Love Train makes any amount of damage fatal

[@sevagothunedited7244]

WoU's calamities are already basically lethal or at minimum highly impairing. I believe it's stated that even if you were to dodge most of a low strength attack it would take off a limb or a good chunk of one. But it scales to how much you're pursuing WoU. The more you pursue, the harder the calamities hit.

[@nuclearz3r076]

@@sevagothunedited7244 Yeah, so even a little pursuing such as when Mitsuba cut her finger off would be an instant kill. Also, its stated somewhere that even looking at WOU's back could be a trigger, although a small one, but that means that just looking at Giorno could be an one hit kill

[@motivatedman9730]

Wonder of U giving you stage 56 cancer for seeing him close for 1 second

[@sevagothunedited7244]

@@motivatedman9730 yeah basically lmfaoooooooo

[@truthcrusader360]

Giorno is already at the practical top of the totem pole, this just puts him above it beyond imagination.

[@Unknown-hb3id]

I may not have any enemies, but stands go way beyond combat than a lot of the other options! Even just Heaven's Door is enough, but ALL of them is just bonkers. Pearl Jam would be a peak stand to have for everyday life!

[@kusu4059]

Imagine just having crazy diamond and heaven's door as combo. You don't even need to rewrite crazy diamond to be able to heal yourself, just the ability to change everything AND everyone as you please. In an ordinary life without enemies, that's broken

[@Unknown-hb3id]

​@@kusu4059 Harvest and Paisley Park combo would be mad money-making! Transport insane amounts of things with Enigma, Sticky Fingers, Little Feet, and Mr President. Perfect air conditioning and weather regulation whereever you go with Weather Report. Massive fate and luck manipulation with a bunch of others (possibly including Hey Ya)! Crazy Diamond repairs almost anyone and anything, saving and helping a ton of people and objects.

[@jonathanschmitt5762]

Also with whitesnake, you can remove stands you don't want around like Cheap Trick, Superfly and even Wonder of You. Yes, Wonder of You. It would be a shame if a tile of the ceiling of your school fell on your friends feet after he asked you what you had on your test.

[@0x6a09]

@@jonathanschmitt5762 i'm 95% sure that wonder of you only works when you want it to. if it doesn't, you just keep the disc with you in case you need it

[@jonathanschmitt5762]

@@0x6a09 I think it targets anyone who pursues it, but that doesn't really matter in this discussion since both opinions lead to the fact that WoU is not in issue when you have every stand.

[@truelich1231]

SHADOW DIO MONEY GANG, WE LOVE STOPPING TIME. THIS SPONSORED BY THE DIO OVER HEAVEN.

[@zoro9621]

LEGALIZE TIME STOPS

[@thebiggafortheninja]

@@zoro9621 SWAG JOESTARS

[@truelich1231]

@@zoro9621 LEGALIZE STONE MASKS

[@zoro9621]

@@truelich1231 LEGALIZE AIRBORNE KNIVES

[@truelich1231]

@@zoro9621 LEGALIZE GAY MARRIAGE WITH PRIESTS

[@ovori6399]

It depends on how we interpret it -If all of the stands in the verse fuse and he basically has every ability in one stand, then he's broken as hell -If he can just spawn every stand at the same time and they basically make an army, then I'd argue even better, he has the option not to spawn "bad" stands, but also can target multiple enemies at the same time -If he can use one stand at a time, but can choose any stand of the verse, then I'd actually argue it could end tragically for him. If he's matched up against someone who could speed blitz him (basically everyone, idk that Gilgamesh fella tho), then the moment he changes his stand from GER he's dead, because Jojo characters without stands are normal humans. If he takes off that practically infinitely haxed durability of GER, then he's in trouble.

[@shwingcrimson8202]

Gilgamesh is the most busted dude on the list lmao. Lemme put it like this, peak gilgamesh without the every noble phantasm buff probably still solos the other 5 with those every buffs

[@Arielelnoob115Z]

@@shwingcrimson8202 But can he beat Goku though?

[@muhyadeen17]

@@Arielelnoob115Z Yes he defo could. And I'm a DB fan

[@Arielelnoob115Z]

@@muhyadeen17 OK, just wait 2 more sagas give or take, and then Goku solos the verse.

[@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec]

@@Arielelnoob115ZKnowing who Goku is…Ha! Not in a million years

[@nicodemusedwards6931]

He would win 90% of fights. Then there’s the 10% of characters who have abilities so absurd they defy any form of reason and logic. Like existing outside of time and reality, being able to summon every version of yourself across the multiverse including the versions of you that *don’t exists*.

[@hackrdonut8194]

Yeah but doesn't Giorno *also* have one of those in the form of GER? Plus if he can get Lovers inside his opponent's brain then he wins even if he dies

[@yodita1368]

You literally describing D4C

[@chrisanthem9956]

@@yodita1368 not the same, d4c is a infinitely smaller versión of that, if logic (calamity) is the highest point in the series a character Who can do that is neg diffing giorno with all the stands by Just scaling (example, rimuru)

[@alphaomega1210]

Yea 90 percent if you ain't including non-canon if you are he would be top 25 most powerful anime characters ever clearing prolly 99.99 percent of anime he still would not be the most powerful in his verse tho.

[@step1saysomethingcontrover320]

​@@chrisanthem9956I think you missed the whole point of part 8, Gappy literally surpassed Logic by being able to use strings that don't exists due to their nature... Of course this is only gappy, If we bring in Bohemian Rhapsody, then he could just bring in my stickman and one shot everyone including tohou and fate lightnovels

[@Aaa-vp6ug]

Every Quirk at once sounds like hell because of all the downsides accumulating, and imagine how uncomfortable the combination of 1.6 billion quirks would feel when large amounts of them contort your body. Let’s say a third of all quirks are mutant, so that makes ~533 333 333. That’s a lot of ways your body is going to be altered. Some are just going to be “belly horns” and “Thorny ribs without stab and slash resistance”, or “No bones besides your skull”, or some other sh’t

[@gulnoorbrar]

Thank you for respecting fate, even over our favorite anime. That's respectable

[@magnolia___]

teens in america: high school musical teens in italy:

[@Stryfe52]

You’ve got “I can reflect any misfortune coming my way towards someone else,” then there’s “My sword slices cut through 6 dimensions and cannot be dodged - you will *die.”* “I can stop time!” *”This [#^%_*] existed before the concept of existence. It posses the power to erase all of existence.”*

[@prasnikar9465]

then there's cause and will manipulation i still think nothing can beat GER cuz ger said: no matter the abilities i'll stop you and power level doesn't matter GER is just busted. no cap finale of part 5 was boring becouse of that.

[@chrisanthem9956]

@@prasnikar9465 there are characters that could not be affected by ger (pretty much every acasual character) for example alphamon from digimon literally could Just not be affected by ger's abilities (but he Will come back in time with every thing in the range of the ability)

[@alphaomega1210]

You must be talking about beyond for the last one right.

[@Stryfe52]

@@alphaomega1210Actually, I meant Ea.

[@communistkanna]

Giorno with Pearly Jam: Every Shounen Protagonist: Instantly forfeits for more food

[@hyperdreamer9483]

Honestly even with Pucchi he can’t just give anyone a Stand, it was explained by either Emporio or FF that if you don’t have the constitution for a certain Stand (like it just being to powerful for you to handle) it’ll reject you. This was shown when Jolyne took in Star Platinum’s disc and it rejected her by yeeting her away and coming out of her head because Star Platinum was too powerful for her

[@mirzapramudya1580]

My head canon was actually because she's a woman lmao Think about it, Star Platinum appeared during part 3, where he was still in the "disrespect women" phase, perhaps that's why SP rejected Jolyne

[@ANDORRA195]

@@mirzapramudya1580 sexist platinum lol

[@mirzapramudya1580]

@@ANDORRA195 *based platinum

[@hyperdreamer9483]

@@mirzapramudya1580 You mean the Star Platinum who’s user is Jolyne’s father who loves her so much he’d rather die than let her get hurt?

[@thegreataggron]

that bit about Goku not wanting to punch deku had me chuckling. This was just a fun video for a Thursday

[@wildlock1552]

Using Greenday with C-Moon can be a strong instant kill

[@unusuallyoddacademy3401]

Spongebob don't even need to go Ultra Homie Kissy Kiss mode to beat Giorno

[@BuetifullPersun]

The best options here are definitely having every stand or having every quirk. With stands there is a lot of infinite potential, but with the quirks some of them are pretty wack like being immortal, decaying anything you touch, ability to duplicate anything as many times as you want, turn anything into marbles for easy storage, ect. Though personally I would choose stands. Since with The World Over Heaven you basically become God anyways so you can have access to all these other abilities.

[@itchyteeth7924]

The thing is you most likely come out looking like a cancer tumor since every qurk most likely includes mutation quirks. Like the tail one

[@CERISTHEDEV]

Meh i find the having every dragonball ability would be better because you can straight up make wishes on yourself and most db abilitys have 0 drawbacks

[@SpiritsRiseR2]

Gilgamesh with every Noble Phantasm needs to be talked about

[@Stryfe52]

He just wins. Whatever the contest is, he wins

[@aliastheabnormal]

Gilgamesh already has every noble phantasm. In fact he has better versions of every Noble phantasm. He's just too lazy to not chuck them like rockets. Except Excalibur.

[@raikasha8152]

@@aliastheabnormal No. He has the prototypes of many Noble Phantasms, like Caliburn for Excalibur. He doesn't things like Karna's Visavi Shakti or Excalibur.

[@alphaomega1210]

Eh he loses to giorno if you include not canon stands like the passion or the trinity.

[@step1saysomethingcontrover320]

​@@Stryfe52Bohemian rhapsody would like to chat with you

[@literalthrowaway6051]

whitesnake can steal more than stands and memory since it was shown stealing eye sight when pucci needed to avoid the snail rainbows, so he can most likely steal quirks, bankai, and devil fruit (and if it works like stands do they won't be overloaded) also Ichibei's stolen bankai/heavensdoor can re-wright the noble phantasms to stomp some Gilgamesh. (also novel kars stands 💀)

[@dluxajalt]

And Soft and Wets Plunder ability would just be "ha, stole your kneecaps and gave you memories of a 1625 retired mobster" when used with Whitesnake

[@johnbrylledomingo6377]

7:20 how dare you remind me of the 100's of games i binge bought on Playstation sales a few years ago that i won't likely to ever finish

[@frozenover_exe]

I think the best part about having every (good) Stand is that there are a lot that you could use just being a regular ass person. Heaven’s Door is way up there, but also stuff like Earth Wind and Fire, Gold Experience, and Weather Report could be really good to have on hand even if you’re just a regular ass person

[@andresacosta5318]

With weather report and weather report i’ll be the richest farmer in the world. And then once ive made my millions i’ll be traveling the world just raising forrests and bringing rain and shit

[@charlesm6819]

Imagine Giorno being "stuck" in super fly and then another one of the characters there see him but don't know what the ability actually does so when they come into super fly to fight him he stops time and then leaves so when they try to follow him out they turn into metal and become a part of super fly

[@sylvestremolina2355]

In a scenario like this couldn't you just hit everyone with survivor and then hide in the cream realm or something and wait till they kill each other?

[@Salmon_Lamb0]

Okay, but what if there’s a survivor? (Haha no pun intended)

[@sevagothunedited7244]

​@@Salmon_Lamb0just erase them with cream or the hand, honestly a survivor cream combo is kinda underrated. Survivor is definitely not a good stand by itself but with a stand that allows you to hide away from the combat it suddenly gets way better basically acting as a "kill all" button

[@MaksIsLazyy]

Giorno with every stand means: -can negate any attacks with RTZ -has infinite speed with MIH -time stop -Death 13 is self explanatory -C moon gravity manipulation -Heavens Door💀 -Cream and The Hand erasure -access to infinite parallel universe with D4C -can see into the future with epitaph -can revert time with BTD -and Wonder of U is overkill💀

[@eugenekrabs2403]

Having Deku fight Goku is like the final form of parental punishment

[@sour-infinity]

Goku being reduced to atoms after hey-ya tells giorno to hit the griddy

[@batata2818]

That sounds cool. Also a vidoe of all three of you would be fire!!

[@resbro4855]

the one response to the meme at the beginning that was like “gilgamesh and goku when hey-ya tells giorno to do the stanky leg” shit gets me every time

[@etrenome6717]

How does giorno not win with ALLL OF THE STANDS? He has multiple ways to control reality 💀💀💀

[@gotron105]

if giorno knows how to use every stand, i think he could come out on top unironically, since he has bohemian rhapsody which is literally BUSTED bohemian rhapsody is fictional summoning basically, its not limited to 1 verse, or whatever, ANY FICTIONAL CHARACTER is at your disposal, goku, saitama, gilgamesh, the character you made up in your head that makes giorno unable to be beaten and literally decimates everyone else, its kind of insane it honestly would just depend on if giorno knows how to use every stand, can make up a character and summon it in time, if 1 of those 2 things fail hes done, but if he does it he could pull a dub also if your getting every stand, bohemian rhapsody is included and you could just summon a character that you made up that will give you literally whatever the hell you want and then the character gets erased, and by whatever you want, i mean WHATEVER. YOU. WANT. money, power, becoming goku, literally anything the only reason why bohemian rhapsody wasnt this busted in the series is because of its user, which makes sense

[@camiheartyt]

Given Holly wasn't "strong" enough to have a stand and that's why it was killing her, if someone had every stand then that's a lot of energy. I doubt anyone in Jojo would be strong enough to hold every stand. Especially with the conflicts of what stands are "good" and "evil" and the stands that have their own consciousness. I say it's true that too many stands would kill anyone.

[@aliastheabnormal]

Holly was also a woman in the 80's. So of course she was fucked.

[@azannadeem1313]

not even ultimate kars?

[@camiheartyt]

@@azannadeem1313 Oh heck, that's a good question

[@aliastheabnormal]

@@camiheartyt Even if Ultimate Kars couldn't hold every stand. Wouldn't he eventually be able to evolve to the point that he can handle them. He might explode once or twice. But the man is literally invincible.

[@Purriah]

@@aliastheabnormalbut what about the soul? He couldn’t evolve enough to survive space, he was already “ultimate” and yet he went brain dead. Maybe he mentally and/or spiritually couldn’t handle it

[@Dbombre]

giorino will self destruct. example: when jolyne tried used star platinums disk it was so much to the point that the stand disk just ejected .if a stand is inflicted on someone forcefully without a way of it being removed you end up like holly. think of that with so many stands

[@juzox5161]

Giorno using D4C:Love Train 20th Century Boy Green Green Grass of Home GER TW WOU Dragons Dream for Maximum Defense Giorno then uses C-Moon MIH The Hand Killer Queen Tusk Cream Heavens Door Weather Report WhiteSnake KISS Ratt for maximum attacking Giorno also uses Grateful Dead to keep himself young as well as rapidly age opponents And if we are dealing with Non Canon stuff then definitely TWOH and All Ultimate Stands from the Novel Giorno Solos

[@yureiotakughost9464]

I always wondered why Rohan doesnt see Jotaro do the Star Platinum: The World when its well known Jotaro can stop time, and just go "Ah, well I'll write 'My stand is now Heaven's Door: The World' on himseld

[@Yeeterminator]

With The World, GER and King Crimson he’d basically have access to all aspects of time

[@Arcticfoxblox]

if we are talking about non canon stands like twoh then it’s even better because you can straight up rewrite entire realities. Like you go from being a mortal with the powers of a god to a straight up god

[@suspicious_spy]

Ah yes the combination of GER, Wonder of U, and D4CLT makes him practially undefeatatable

[@suspicious_spy]

also he could probably just erase the universe with the hand

[@ChibiChidorii]

I had no idea what the hell you were talking about until you named the Twitter post and it is still a gift to hear you talk

[@petrarcheleven8816]

Stands being a manifestation of the soul, I think having too many Stands would be like having a whole bunch of souls warring in your body, it'd probably mentally and physically destroy you.

[@aliesterus1.023]

If you think Noble Phantasms can get crazy, wait until you get access to every mecha in existence. When manipulating causality on the infinitely multiversal scale to impart the concept of death on a deathless enemy _isn't_ the strongest thing you can do, _you know things have gotten out of hand._ Can't even give the restriction of "you can only pilot them one at a time" when you have the super gorilla glue that's Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann empowered by Getter Rays and G-Stones to bind them all together _and not collapse into a singularity._

[@kodoqbesar4301]

So I have a question. How would Giorno (GER) fare against Touhou characters especially Sagume? Because some people believe that Giorno would lose to Sagume. I also would like Giorno to face Yukari or Okina because their powers are similar to Sticky Fingers but way more broken

[@truthcrusader360]

He fairly solos all of them.

[@CrystalChris21]

The thing about Touhou abilities is that they're self-described. As in, the characters themselves explain their abilities which makes them sorta ambiguous since: a) The characters could easily lie b) The characters may not fully understand their own ability. Not to mention how they tend to have unclear limitations (i.e. Yukari should be god but she can't really use her powers to their supposed peak). As such, comparing them with other franchises is not as straight forward as some people make it seem.

[@randell3306]

Depends on how far GER's power can go, if it works on everyone then Giorno can't be harmed but he probably doesn't have enough power to harm most if not all characters from touhou

[@unlimitedbladeworks2067]

@@truthcrusader360 Not the downplay of Touhou. Assuming just GER, Yukari and gap shenanigans could probably bypass the gaps of cause and effect. She has been shown to manipulate concepts. Okina may be in a similar state. Sagume is a bit interesting as the universe does the exact opposite of what she says so it is pretty debatable and I'm not researching all that.

[@truthcrusader360]

@@unlimitedbladeworks2067 Not even, GER is not as simple as people make it out to be. It’s literally a mind of its own as a living singularity.

[@hsyejajsjbzshhxhd1751]

The only way to beat giorno... Be immortal and like wait till he dies of old age or smth idk

[@2ndpersona106]

Man, I always want Touma from A Certain Magical Index to face Giorno in Death Battle since G.E.R. stand is an Immovable object and Touma's ability, Imagine Breaker, is also an Immovable object... But I also wonder how Touma would fair if Giorno had all the Stands? ToAru L.N. readers, you all know how Misfortune-chan treats Touma even in near-death/ almost at death's door situation 😅

[@aliastheabnormal]

Could Touma even be able to see stands? I mean Imagine breaker is full anti-everything. So i'm pretty sure that a stand user could sneak up on him and kill the dude without him even realizing it. Just like what happened to Abbachio.

[@darkpain2452]

@@aliastheabnormal but he already die when is young,they cut off his arm and killing him,is the reason only the arm has this power

[@aliastheabnormal]

@@darkpain2452 Touma has died almost as often as Subaru. He technically died at the end of the first arc. And the Touma we are following is his mindwiped substitute.

[@darkpain2452]

@@aliastheabnormal not,i mean you know the reason why touma only have one arm with that power and not entire body,is because touma dies when he is young and negate death,you know the insanity of this, touma is very very aware he dies beforehand,the dude cut touma arm and piece his stomach,

[@Cxy814]

Pretty sure Touma can erase stands by touching them, so unless Giorno knows about IB he loses

[@guardian3636]

Giorno would basically "that kid" when you played as a kid in this fight

[@gokalpkilinc6032]

I haven't watched the video yet, but, i would say giorno would beat more than 97% of anime characters but yeah there is some multidimensional godly characters where giornos sheer amount of abilities wouldn't be enough to win.

[@ProjektTaku]

stars and stripes from mha oddly enough could probably beat giorno. Just make a rule that says "none of giorno's stands work on me" and she is instantly immune to all of his abilities.

[@gavinbrown216]

@@ProjektTakuI would imagine S&W: Go Beyond would probably still be able to bypass that

[@ProjektTaku]

@@gavinbrown216 then make the rule that "within 100 meters of me giorno will loose all his stands", then he can't even summon S&W

[@gavinbrown216]

@@ProjektTaku that likely would be considered an act of pursuit by WoU

[@ProjektTaku]

@@gavinbrown216 not really, since she's not actively pursuing him, just saying that infact if he pursues her by trying to close the distance his stands won't work. If WoU considers that pursuit then someone putting a shield up at WoU would also be considered pursuit.

[@lukes401k]

lot of people dont understand the capabilities of The World + Weather Report. one second you feeling good and ready to fight, the next second your just dead because of pure oxygen

[@Mr.BluePants]

In terms of which one would I choose to have in the real world - irl usefulness even outside of combat - I'd definitely go straight for Jojo, no debate. In that same category, in second place, I'd maybe even go for MHA, but I don't wanna risk looking like a washing machine or having my face look like a fire estinguisher for the rest of my life, so no thx... In terms of the actual original post putting the different characters with (almost) every ability in their verse against each other, I'd also agree to give the win to Gilgamesh with every NP (he's just gonna win regardless). My only issue with Giorno's scaling tbh is that I don't really see a way for Jojo characters to deal with Bleach's soul crush (specially from the top tiers of the verse) and maybe even Conqueror's Haki from One Piece could be potentially be effective, idk... (since they affect the soul directly, or at least soul crush does) Giorno's AP is also nothing special either compared to some others in the list, so even if you say his hax don't get negged (which is a possibility to consider if you take spiritual pressure into consideration) then there still aren't many ways for him to injure people like Ichigo. In verse equalization I'm even ok with equalizing Ki/Chakra to Reiatsu, etc. (different names for spiritual energy), but Jojo characters legit have nothing of the sort in their power system - this to say, it's possible they'd be vulnerable to something like soul crush. IF NOT, Giorno could potentially grab the win by going full "scorched earth" right out the gate and reset the universe with Made In Heaven, for example. Although... the same way Giorno could pull out the big guns from the start, Ichigo could also start off the fight using Ichimonji and essentially seal/reduce Giorno's abilities on a conceptual level, like Ichibe did to Yhwach. There's A LOT of bs universal and conceptual abilities in both Jojo and Bleach (specially if you include more than just the Bankai on Bleach's side, kinda weird that they didn't lol), so I'm not even gonna get into that discussion, I think it would lead nowhere. And then Goku can also bypass a lot of bs abilities on those levels by simply "being Goku", he's done it before. So I wouldn't count Goku out that easily just because he doesn't have as many hax bs in his verse. But yeah, L on that post for not giving Goku and Ichigo access to the entire power system in their verses - it would only be fair, since others got that treatment. (I realize Giorno didn't get Hamon either, but that's an irrelevant power anyway compared to Stands, I'm sure everyone will agree.) And Gilgamesh would win either way... So who cares, right? But to reiterate, usefulness and day to day life stuff, it would be crazy not to select Jojo.

[@thisisntevenmyfinalform6814]

"fate characters are unreasonable" *goku sulking in the corner while shaking an infinite void by merely existing*

[@ginnungagapabyss5639]

I never understood why they had Goku with unlimited ki, that’s not really much of a difference, he would just never run out of energy. Unless it’s like absolute power with ki. It would probably be better using a android with all of the powers, and abilities of the verse. I would vote for that one since the super Sheron, Zeno, his guards, and the grand priest powers, and abilities would be included.

[@ProjektTaku]

zeno can literally erase anything and super shenron can grant any wish. Goku could literally wish to be immune to any abilities and erase anyone.

[@ginnungagapabyss5639]

@@ProjektTaku right

[@KonoDiavoloDaWry]

@@ProjektTakubut can’t Giorno just use The World over Heaven and make it so that they can’t use those powers?

[@ProjektTaku]

@@KonoDiavoloDaWry doesn't TWOH require actually punching the target?

[@marekud1431]

@@ProjektTaku It doesn't, because it is able to rewrite the universe itself and also it is able to go to alternative universes. Also OH DIO was able to summon lightnings out of nowhere. But tbh TWOH wasn't used at full. I'd even say that DIO literally *did not* use his ability. Like, everything what he was doing is ts, punching and lightnings when he could've just overwrited himself to be absolutely immortal and invincible.

[@reymundocalderon3553]

fate series is literally the guilty pleasure over power anime

[@ProjektTaku]

"What would you use a sharingan for?" You can literally use its perceptive abilities to copy anything you see once, plus the byakugan at a high enough level with kaguya at least could see into someone's mind, so you could also learn anything, and if genjutsu works, then you could basically control people to get what you want. The senrigan can allow you to perceive any event in the present anywhere and anything from the past up to your birth, with isshiki dojutsu also being the ultimate storage device, the rinnegan also allows you to heal yourself with the king of hell and use 6 bodies to do whatever you want, and urashiki's blue rinnegan gives him the ability to rewind a few seconds back.

[@matemo9752]

all of those can be done by heavens door so not really much reason to choose that

[@ProjektTaku]

@@matemo9752 so heaven's door can rewind time and store things in a separate pocket dimension and also utilize 6 corpses as puppets?

[@itchyteeth7924]

@@ProjektTaku not heaven door but man in the mirror has a mirror dimension and sticky finger has a zipper storage. fun fun fun can control the injure parts of any human body. Also King Crimson has a ability kin to reversing time and Mandom can straight uo reverse time for six seconds.

[@ProjektTaku]

@@itchyteeth7924 fair, although fun fun fun is pretty situational, and I don't see how KC's skipping is akin to reversal. Also, people who are nearby mandom's user when they rewind time remember those 6 seconds, unless Ringo can control that and just did it so he could improve their skills and mess with them.

[@itchyteeth7924]

@@ProjektTaku I mean most stands are situatuional. What I mean with KC is that its kinda similar I really don't know how to explain KC ability.

[@whitewolf3359]

Tusk act 4 ,and gre + white snake talk about cheesing your enemy’s lol .

[@tusk2358]

People also tend to forget, that if you inflict damage to even one stand it will hurt the user, idk how it will play out with GER. The closest ones here are every transformation or every bankai. Transformations like come on, and Bankai like Yamamoto, Ichibei, or even Azashiro. (Well to be fair I think they should give every bankai+scrifts like Almighty or The Balance)

[@itchyteeth7924]

the only thing that can inflict damage to a stand is another stand. Well unless its a very specific situation.

[@jeremiahiscool5425]

Heaven's door, Bohemian Rhapsody, and Made in heaven are an insane combo. Step one: Activate Bohemian Rhapsody Step two: use made in heaven to find whatever character you want. Step three: Use heaven's door to brainwash them. Step four: Repeat steps 2 to 3 until you are satisfied

[@tayronesousadascostas9421]

Bohemian Rhapsody > all

[@LiteDoesNot]

The world + the hand, he just stops time and deletes them, too easy!!!!

[@deltalord6969]

I love just reading all the things about fate noble phantasms and abilities the scaling is ridiculous. Every stand could put up a good fight maybe but the sheer gap in dimensionality alone cant be crossed that easily. Those posts kinda confuse me either way tbh.

[@ShiaCampbell]

The World + The Hand Don't even get me started on how good Super Fly could be.

[@h4zaya558]

Wouldn't Green Day and Echoes Act three be a nice single target combo, since u could just push them down and activate the mold?

[@AstraFulminous]

Gentlemen the key to victory is to send one stand in to attack, Giorno negates, waits for the arrow to fall out, send in a non attacking stand as test, once confirmed send in additional stand to defeat. Aim not to kill so as to minimize possible chances of the plan going wrong.

[@shrekisloveshrekislive2090]

Every noble phantasm is easily the strongest option I mean just gate of babylon alone would be the best already

[@unknownbasic57]

I still say JoJo beats fate because Jorge Joestar exists for no reason and made Novel Kars who has a lot of ultimate stands including D4C Ultimate which can make almost infinite versions of the stand user with all their stands still with them

[@kodoqbesar4301]

To add up from my previous comment about Giorno vs Touhou characters, how would Giorno fare against characters like Anti Pops from Regular Show, Bill Cipher from Gravity Falls, and Asriel Dreemurr from Undertale?

[@dluxajalt]

With the combined power of WoU S&W GB GeR, you can say "nuh uh" for the low low price of 40 payments of 1/20th of your soul!

[@SlayerEndX13]

"Every" Noble Phantasm?? -- Dawg, does that include the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception? You could one-shot Wonder of U with that. It's not even a choice.

[@destroyerkitty9434]

Being simultaneously attacked by GER and Tusk Act 4s abilities at the same time is enough to solo all of fiction. Also, just imagine having Wonder of U and S&W Go Beyond at once. Absolute insanity.

[@ducklett01god]

People don't realize he also gets cheap trick

[@itchyteeth7924]

@@ducklett01god that he can easily take using white snake

[@vitaminprotein6878]

Jail house lock and Gilgamesh would forget what noble phantasm is

[@fono3657]

Gilgamesh already has almost every Noble Phantasm in the gate of babylon

[@taylorward2617]

I don’t even need every waifu, I already have 2 partners (we’re all a poly triad so there’s no cheating involved) and I feel fulfilled enough

[@rowanjonez]

WOU + GER is unstoppable, cuz what little does manage to slip thru rtz, wou just sends it right back

[@muhyadeen17]

8:00 Ay man all I want is a Sussanoo, that's it

[@Adrien_Zenin]

*Sasuke in the end* Sasuke: It was all a genjutsu you never had all the stands!

[@gorino1926]

The world over heaven has reality manipulation and time stop

[@beans3669]

This is actually canon, cause bohemian rhapsody literally brings every fictional character to life

[@floppyfishreal8936]

oh and boheimian rapsody solos draw a character that can beat anyone and anything that can protect you its like kid one "i have a forcefield" kid two "oh yeah well i have a stick man that can scale to the highest level of power is invulnerable to any attack and can eat forcefields" kid one "wha..."

[@icicleditor]

The moment Fate got brought in, we may as well bring in the SCP foundation's Teir-0 Powerscaling to just nuke the damn place

[@Mooinator3000]

I love that one of the posts had Gilgamesh with every NP which he literally already has

[@bungusbongus]

Personally I'd say every bankai, azashiros bankai is basically the most modern life applicable thing on the list

[@mario98730]

This idea is insane to me because Giorno with GER is ALREADY nigh-unbeatable. Like even if you give start of series Giorno every stand that isn't requiem, you could argue that's STILL not stronger than GER. I guess its the same difference scaling-wise tho because you basically have to be a reality warper to beat either. GER negates all attacks and between Bites The Dust, D4C, King Crimson, etc. it's pretty much impossible to hit all-stands Giorno with normal attacks either. But as Kaleb accurately states, when look into Fate scaling the Phantasm's literally do anything the writers imagine, so it's pretty definitively All-Phantasm Gilgamesh

[@alainblandi2885]

Bohemian Rhapsody includes all the other characters

[@monotear]

every stand includes TWOH aka overwriter of reality

[@NominalDingus]

Well how about this. What if you only had access to the stands of stand users who have died? So if a stand user is still alive you can't use their stand until they're dead.

[@kochiwomirosheerheartattack]

Someone tries to attack you and they just get either get hit by something that explodes there head or gets dropped by go beyond

[@guy1060]

lets be fair, za hando za warudo would be crazy

[@Stryfe52]

You may have no enemies, but all stands means you have White Snake; give a bunch of people stands and start making your own enemies!

[@mateonavarro3019]

What if we added lelouch with every Geass? With Charles' he could just erase everyone's minds and tell them to forget their powers lol

[@extendedwarranty3335]

Use heavens door to make yourself invincible and then write that you have all of the other powers

[@Daxer420]

This is how it would go against goku, the fight starts goku charges, he spams ger and waits for universe accel to get him up to a high speed, then he timestops, writes **I WILL NOT MOVE ANY AMOUNT OF DISTANCE FOR 10 YEARS** (Or he could just write im dead🗿) then he proceeds to 1 shot him with tusk act 4. Or you could just timestop and 1 shot him or revert him with ger and make him unable to move and 1 shot him

[@Lord_Seraph]

GER + D4C Love Train Immortality Infinite power Nobody can beat you.

[@manu_kb24]

Magicians red + Grateful Dead Heat them up then use aging ability ☠️

[@Randomstuff-kq1dv]

bro talks bout some shield out of time and space and hyping it up funny valentine: AM I A JOKE TO YOU??!!

[@Itsalladream678]

This has nothing to do with the video but if wamu had a stand it would be able make tornados and he could enhance those with his own air abilities,. He could make tornados out of razor sharp air like his technique he used against Caesar. He could even get requiem and be able to suck the heat out of the air or even make surrounding areas extremely hot or cold. All while applying his own humidity to the mist to cloak himself. And with his extensive battle experience and knowledge he could mabye use his stand to learn spin by spining him self in the tornado, and do it on a horse since he has experience on horse back. Making him OP. i think.

[@evelyn785]

If you thought Giorno with every stand was overpowered, just wait until you hear about Notorious BIG with every stand

[@JadedCl0ckWorks]

3:45 imagine inverting gravity with green days ability they would have to be at the bottom while they just rot

[@havis6831]

zawarudo, and then za hando, bro stops time and when it resumes yo ass is already deleted

[@slesh_master]

If we use in verse rules:At the beginning of the fight Luffy dies immediately,Deku goes insane from the amount of quirks,Ichigo accidently kills himself usiang a bankai,Giorno stand there with GER,Gil goes to avalon and Goku is just there