SCENE STEALING AND WEDDING DRAMA / GIRLS NEXT LEVEL PODCAST

[@davidsigler9690]

Immaturity was Kendra's major problem; I actually feel somewhat sorry for her as I think her immaturity was her worse enemy and I sense the producers didn't help her overcome that and used that to divide you three. Kendra could have learned much from you two and how friendship works.....

[@davidsigler9690]

@@reneepruitt1012 If she is then she has grown passed the person she was during the show, but during the show the producers used her immarurity to make her out to be a problem.

[@timboyce8306]

Holly and Bridget you both look amazing

[@lesliedemarco1691]

I have no sympathy for that little you know what. She's narcissistic, rude, childish, and a total you know what. Holly & Bridget are class and Kendra is tr-sh.

[@cherieenicholson6654]

Holly is only a few years older, I think a lot of it is kendras personality.

[@melissah2848]

@@cherieenicholson6654❤

[@ashleydiaz929]

Who else was watching this as teenager and still noticed Kendra got special treatment

[@ct6852]

Just thought she got treated as the 'baby' in the family. Like sometimes the youngest in any family gets the benefit of the doubt more than the others. It's natural.

[@officeyoga4679]

I wish they could show the clips.

[@ct6852]

@@officeyoga4679 I think they could show parts of clips if they wanted. But it's a lot of work in editing and risky because if they show too much the whole thing can get demonetized.

[@maurice1263]

Holly spoke about that in her book

[@smacain]

In light of what Kendra has publicly said she has been going through, I hope she gets the help and healing she needs. I was not the biggest Kendra fan while she was on the show, and her post-show comments were not very nice and dismissive of Holly’s experience. I think it’s pretty telling that a lot of people who criticized Holly back in the day are now sharing they had similar experiences, and I think that just goes to show we can respect women’s stories, even if we may not have shared the same experience at the time. Abuse is tricky, and people don’t know what goes on behind closed doors, or the mask you hide behind to protect yourself. What I like about Holly and Bridget is that they can have different interpretations of what people say and do, without undermining the other person’s experience or calling them a liar. Women need to support other women, because if we don’t stand together, we’ll be pitted against each other.

[@katekburns3495]

What did she go through? What could excuse this

[@kendramazzu2690]

I really wish y’all had a monitor behind you, so you could show images of what you guys are talking about at all times

[@nicoeeek.7181]

LOVE that you are being totally real about how damn painful it was to film with Kendra.Always drove me nuts that she was so rude and attention seeking.

[@dextermoore278]

Oh, please. Kendra was just being herself. She wasn't into the girly stuff, that Holly and Bridget were into. Kendra was different.

[@mikegarcia597]

Kendra was 18 years old… she was a brat just like we were lol I would smack 18 year old me in the mouth. The sh*t that came out of my mouth at that age is so cringe 😬

[@KrystalNMeza]

@@dextermoore278how is blowing up balloons girly… she clearly was too lazy to help

[@jessicapotts4924]

I’m such an idiot. I’ve been listening to these on Spotify not even knowing y’all have videos posted here!!!! My life has changed!! 😂

[@coralee1577]

SAME!!! I'm gonna re-watch them all with the videos now !!

[@sarahschouveller1993]

I literally still say "you're not doing your JOBBB" like that TO THIS DAY and forgot where I had even gotten it from! 😂

[@JoseAvila-km2wd]

Briget :you wanted to go back with puffin😊❤ HOLLY:BULLSHIT!!🤬 You guys are so me😹😹😹😹♓

[@ct6852]

Lol. Savage.

[@RachaelTownsend74]

Why are you here then

[@onelove33333]

One of the best things about watching these podcasts is going back to rewatch the episode of GND with a whole new view on the situation. Thank you so much for doing these!! 💖💖💖😊

[@thewanderingorphan]

I always rewatch AFTER their recap. Is today different.

[@jessdeeES]

Every time Holly says “baygs” (bags) I’m over here out loud trying to mimic her 😂

[@lns4life]

And whhild

[@darleneoquendo7070]

Or quextion 😂 I love her

[@adrieneceleste]

Ok same 😂😂

[@irisvee]

Or when she says 'naygative' I love it lol

[@anjelaroberts05]

Hands down funniest line.."Heff had to walk back to the mansion" .. "YEAH Heff had to walk" 😂😂😂😂

[@jlcmsw]

I understand how hard it was not to be able to go to Tiffany’s wedding. I was in a very toxic, abusive, controlling marriage and I feel like I missed out on a lot of life while I was with him. To everyone: remember, you’re not possessions. You’re an equal in a relationship.

[@impano666]

13:30 I said that OUT LOUD while watching this exact episode! “Oh, he’s over her shit” he/they definitely kept her around because for whatever reason, they thought she was integral to the show.

[@LadyPeachWicket]

In response to your Light as a Feather Stiff as a Board curiosity: yes, it really can work! I remember when I was about 11, me & my friends were able to lift a girl a few feet off the ground only using two fingers on each hand. It was our 3rd attempt I think because the first two attempts we didn't take it seriously enough

[@Mylilloki]

What I need before bed after a 5am shift 😂 love the girlies! Your show was my jam when I was a teenager 💖

[@ct6852]

Have a good sleep. Bet you're tired.

[@karawigley6231]

As an outsider looking in I always felt that Bridget shared a close friendship with Kendra the way she did Holly & felt really bad for her when Kendra started downplaying their friendship. I remember Bridget threw her all of these parties & even went house hunting for her post mansion. She really did a lot for her. So, I never understood why she went around trying to act like she was never friends with her. You could understand her saying she wasn’t that close to Holly in the sense that she never had much one on one time with her because she was Hef’s number one. Bridget had a little more freedom than Holly & given the dynamic had Kendra around to keep her company when Hef & Holly were more preoccupied being the main relationship. I just felt Bridget didn’t deserve that as she went out of her way for Kendra many times.

[@ct6852]

If I had to guess she just wanted/needed to distance herself from Playboy entirely. And Bridget was just collateral damage in that. But maybe she didn't know it at the time.

[@karawigley6231]

@@ct6852 Yeah, I can see that I just thought it was in poor taste. I remember Bridget had met with Kendra to talk about it on camera & Bridget shared how it hurt her feelings. It made me feel bad for Bridget because she is such a sweet person.

[@ct6852]

@@karawigley6231 Yeah it was legit heartbreaking to watch. You could see her going through stuff. I just got the impression she was confused and ashamed of a lot from that time. It was telling the way she attacked Holly as well. It was like 'how dare you move on without shame when that's what I want to do but can't'.

[@allornothing1537]

One of the episodes that stuck in my mind was when Bridgette and Kendra got arrested in Monte Carlo or wherever during the TV Festival you attended. lol

[@Lisa-d4c8e]

Kendra just came out admitting that her life at the mansion traumatized her. She had to be hospitalized and is in therapy. Perhaps in the future all three of you could have that conversation thereby helping countless women navigate similar situations. ❤

[@ct6852]

Oh wow. Had a feeling that might be the case. I think reflecting on it honestly will be good for her.

[@lesleyramsey8720]

Kendra won't come on this podcast. She has said she wants nothing to do with the girls.

[@dextermoore278]

​@@lesleyramsey8720Kendra DOESN'T NEED TO COME ON THIS PODCAST!!! Give me a break. Holly hates Kendra. Kendra is over PLAYBOY and Holly.

[@lesleyramsey8720]

@@dextermoore278 if you would have read my comment I said she WOULDN'T come on the pod. Don't know why you are yelling at me when I said the same thing you did.

[@AnthonyHurtz]

You both are amazing!!! Much love Holly and Bridget

[@sassysavy243]

Crazy I watched GND when I was a kid and always identified more with Kendra (probably cause I too was immature lol) however now when I re watch it.. I get annoyed by her lack of interest in anything that didn’t revolve around her.. yikes 😵‍💫 wonder how she feels about it if she ever watched it back

[@1313Mockingbirdlaen]

Light as a feather totally worked for us as kids dozens of time

[@elocc9570]

Best part of Mondays! Love you guys so much! I wonder if you wiuld ever consider a pod tour? Come to the PNW! 🎉❤

[@erinleeder]

Loving Bridget's Blucifer sweatshirt!!

[@GBunnyG]

I was always intrigued by the "go back to the mansion and pout" scene, because it felt like you (Bridget) were genuinely calling her out but that there was humor there. It's interesting to hear that wasn't about her (though it could've been). And from the lens of listening to you both talk about what was happening at the time and how production was playing games, it's like they were trying to show how "cool" Kendra was to not be bothered by the razzing. Interesting.

[@Mary-w7c4z]

You girls are so much fun! And so pretty! Always fun videos; Thank you!!

[@cgibbseaster]

Kendra and her mother were all about attention! Kendra's mother always wanted to be at the mansion. Her mother would always flirt with Heff. He even paid for her nose job,boob job and some bills. One of the reasons her mom was pissed when Kendra wanted to leave the mansion. Thats why Kendra always supported Heff because Heff paid Kendra's bills, got her a new car and paid for her wedding. Kendra was spoiled,selfish and only wanted to go out, drink and smoke weed. She was all about partying. Kendra and her family totally used Heff.

[@melissagiajo88]

100%

[@MitchellWiggs]

another great episode, and your both looking gorg ❤❤

[@mrbeastly5527]

Excellent of you Wonderful Ladies for making this for us, thank you both very very much 🐰🐰

[@slbarbieri1725]

Re: light as a feather/stiff as a board - Yes! We used to play it as preteens and yes, once we actually lifted a girl 3 feet off the ground

[@danielled249]

Was Hef mad at Holly when Kendra went off on her own or was he mad at Kendra? When I re-watched that episode, I originally thought he was mad at Holly but now that you're explaining it, I see it was directed at Kendra and her immaturity and lack of respect for anyone else. My question would also be why wasn't Kendra ever spoken to about her rude behavior? She acted like a pestilent.

[@dextermoore278]

Kendra was a young, fun, outspoken 18 year old TEENAGER WHEN SHE JOINED THE PLAYBOY MANSION. So of course, she was immature. 😂😂

[@ALittleBitShabby]

I get borderline pissed off when people put certain behaviours down to age. I have met many 20 year olds who are so together, responsible, considerate of others - it's not an excuse for being so selfish and attention seeking! I know this episode may have been edited to show kendra in a bad light, but really this was ridiculous and Kendra's behaviour was awful 😬

[@TheAshleyboss]

Great episode!! I noticed the HM sweatshirt and originally thought it looked like Haunted Mansion then thought it could also be Holly Madison! Cool either way 😊

[@introverted_unicorn]

Im actually doing a rewatch of the show & randomly found this podcast❤❤

[@torkaviantales802]

I remember feeling so gutted when I saw that episode of Kendra's show where she had lunch with Bridget and Kendra told her that they were never friends. I don't know if that was a scripted moment or not, but I was sad I had to stop watching the show.

[@gothbarbie95]

Sending love and happiness from Maryville, Tennessee! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ We got a tiny bit of snow and are losing our minds here! Lol.

[@MMGhost123]

I'm from north Alabama and am with you! Warm wishes 💖

[@laurenneale3102]

Bridget!! That Denver Airport Hoodie is ICONIC!! Blucifer!!

[@danatriesit3244]

Girl squad is a necessity!!❤❤

[@mrbeastly5527]

Thanks for the Wonderful Video Girls Next Level 🎉

[@SRPA476]

I'm awkward and introverted, too. I've always struggled with female friendship: mean girl politics and relational aggression are every bit as toxic as misogyny, imo. But there really is no substitute for female connection, especially as you get older. But yeah, FFs can be treacherous…and we women can be brutal to each other.

[@jennibennecke669]

Preach

[@tammymajors9938]

I adore you both! Thanks for these videos very interesting and you both look amazing!!!!

[@carleycarleyb]

2:45 that’s so sad that he got upset that you two were spending time together

[@slj8470]

I Remember Kenda being on the phone in her room she would look so annoyed when you guys would come in lol like what the fuck do you want!

[@BrianaGibbs-o1x]

The way holly says the word "pink" is so cute to me lol

[@liveloveresell2886]

Love the wavy hair on Holly ❤

[@thehardercandy]

Yes light as a feather stiff as a board works, my friends and I did it as kids and it 100% worked... Much to our horror 😂

[@dawnoliver6141]

I love you Bridget and Holly it's so wonderful to catch up on the girls next door. I miss that show

[@cathyparker6730]

Love you Girls!!! Love the background ❤❤❤

[@mom2chris1mike2]

Am I remembering correctly? But wasn’t Bridget on Kendra’s show addressing Bridget being portrayed unfairly in Kendra’s book? Didn’t Kendra in the end say that she was wrong about Bridget and that bridge it was a real friend? What happened between Brigid and Kendra more specifically after the Kendra on top episode???

[@ct6852]

Yeah I saw that too. One of the only episodes I've seen from Kendra's shows. I thought they worked it out, more or less. But I think Kendra is still embarrassed about her past.

[@KBarraza]

35:55 the hef voice! 😆 Holly is totally Belle in the show, then Hef is… the beast lmao. 55:50 so funny how she explains it.

[@lns4life]

It'd be iconic if you ladies could get Paris on an episode :)

[@staceepayne8787]

Heff's passed on and there will never be another episode!

[@lns4life]

@staceepayne8787 I don't mean girls next door lol. The show was done when Heff was alive. It's been 14 years so I know it'll never come back :) plus paris was on a couple. I mean an episode of the podcast. :)

[@giaafshar8419]

yes i’ve played light as a feather stiff as a board in junior high and with enough people it totally works.

[@TheeQUING]

Basically again we have to reinerate that Kendra is not a girl's girl lmao

[@osxow1]

Kendra was such a pick me girl thirsty for men's attention....daddy issues

[@julief2830]

Completely an attention seeker. I watched all of these seasons and Holly and Brig are not exaggerating at all. I was thinking everything they are on here saying. Kendra didn't want to do a lot of what they were doing but it's like Brig said...couldn't you just help out for someone else's sake? Granted Kendra was very young coming on to the show and she was pretty immature. I think Hef liked her because she kept him feeling youthful.

[@osxow1]

@@julief2830 more than just being "young" she was so inmature

[@karawigley6231]

@@julief2830 When the show first premiered I was around 18 & Kendra was my favorite. Now I’m in my mid 30’s & rewatched the show after seeing it on Tubi & look at Kendra entirely differently. I found her behavior rude, entitled & annoying. After that I read Holly’s book & started watching her KZbin channel encouraging her to do what they’re doing. Hearing the behind the scenes stuff & rewatching the GND I see exactly what they’re talking about now. Crazy how much your opinion can change on something the older you get.

[@mikaelalisa]

@@karawigley6231omg!! Exactly the same for me!

[@HardFreckles]

@@mikaelalisaAlso same

[@66sickgurl]

I’ve been lifted!! Did it in Mexico and it was basically the Mexican version of stiff as a board light as a 🪶 it was a trip.

[@lesleyramsey8720]

Now that Kendra has come out with her mental illness issues and specifically said that she was dealing with trauma from being in the mansion, can you guys talk about that and your thoughts? I'm thinking that maybe that all has to do with how she was acting?

[@tan5923]

We want an interview with Monica !

[@hidee3890]

This!

[@krystlejade9126]

Kendra herself admitted she believes she is a narcissist and blamed it on her family. That could explain why she's so uncomfortable not being center of attention.

[@ct6852]

She offered up 'narcissist' without being prompted?

[@krystlejade9126]

@@ct6852 It was a group exercise she was participating in with her mom on a TV show 5 or 6 years back.

[@jivespeaker]

I love (and wait for) Holly's Buh-ye's! at the end. Great episode! It's funny how I watch these hoping to gain some insight on what went wrong and I guess we may never get there. Without Kendra to explain her side (and I know she is 0% interested) it's all just guess work. And Kendra may never get to that place where she can admit some fault on her part. Not that it's bad or anything. Many people are still immature at the age she was when filming, so a lot could be just that. I just wish she'd be brave enough for the convo.

[@kaylheecarroll3186]

Love the females friendships talk❤😊

[@somedudesmom9540]

On another note, I’m rather sure that even though Hugh wanted to break things off with Kendra, the show’s demographic was mostly teen girls, and Kendra was the most relatable.

[@candyjohnson3302]

You mean young girls were relating to a stupid brat?

[@carrieduane3790]

Love you ladies! 💕👯

[@ontherockswithsalt2335]

Holly dodged a bullet with Hef. I used to love the show but the disclosures of what went on in that house didn't shock me at all. I worked in a strip club for 10 years and I learned very quickly that when it comes to sex and money, it is ALWAYS transactional. Now, don't get me wrong. I am not here to shame anybody. Wives use sex in some marriages also! But when it's a married couple suddenly it's funny and relatable. "My man washed the dishes and did the laundry so you know I had to show my appreciation!" Wink wink So to the people who make comments like "Oh, I could NEVER with that old wrinkly man!" You could and you would if the price was right for you. And that is a fact. These women should never apologize. We were all young and did questionable things. They just did it better because they opened doors that clearly many of us got to enjoy living vicariously through them. We wouldn't be here today if that weren't the case.

[@impano666]

I agree that she dodged a bullet, but no, not everyone would. I had and still have opportunities to get money, trips, cars, everything paid for-if I just have sex with them and go to dinner and smile and text them. I just don’t want to build a life like that, never did, never will 🤷‍♀️

[@venucina]

​@@impano666 Same. Me neither. As a latina (NOT saying I'm cute I'm not but just so you can have an idea) I've had people from other countries offering almost everything a girl can dream. But I've never considered it because just the thought of hanging around with an old man who I don't even like makes me sick. I don't need that much money if it comes that way

[@ct6852]

I'm not surprised people would like him and want to be with him. But the constant jostling with other girls for time, attention, and position must've been pretty awful. But his image was mostly kindly grandfather who's rich, experienced, worldly and lives a fantasy life of fun and freedom. That would be intoxicating, I'd imagine.

[@shannonsmith2642]

Um, no, no , not everyone would sleep with an old man for the status, money and clout. Some people have higher morals.

[@somedudesmom9540]

So when Kendra and Monica drive back to the main house to get the present, would the camera crew have ridden with her under the influence? Or did they have there own car? Because there’s no way they walked and she drove

[@sudershelly1]

Light as a feather stiff as a board does work! I was lifted at a slumber party when I was around 10 years old. As soon as I lost concentration, the dropped me. It freaked me out!

[@elizabethskywalker0621]

Seeing how people react so feral to you when you speak of how it really was is so interesting. Like. I heard i believe it was jenny mccarthy and her sister. One sister wrote a book about their childhood and the other sister was wondering where the hell this happened. Perspective is everything. Experience is everything. You said before your sister is the only person to experience your childhood. These girls are the only one to experience the mansion. But you and Bridget had a few years more on kendra. Yall DID exist in the same space at the same time. But experienced it soooo different. Kendra was so up her own ass and head buried in sports to notice. She is so consumed in whatever sport is up. And whatever guy shes talkin to.

[@lesliedemarco1691]

Holly & Bridget, you ladies are CLASS and the other one is TOTAL TR-SH.

[@ccalexander1924]

I played light as a feather with friends when I was little and yes the person lifts. It’s actually crazy. There have been times rhete was just one person on each side of the person laying down and they lifted !

[@Lovevalarie214]

It happened!! I swear I played when I was young and opened my eyes to the beams in the ceilings! Of course I fell as soon as I saw it.

[@nicholew3569]

i bought a flip 5 phone and wear it over the front of my pants like we did back then lol

[@johnathanwilliams3394]

Great podcast! ❤

[@minjaruzic6982]

Holly I can't stop staring at your hair! I want to know what tool you used to get those big waves! It looks beautiful

[@maciehill8677]

Yessss we’ve lifted people. We used to do it at sleepovers all the time lol

[@melindamullins9272]

you both we know have so many interesting stories to tell us about being involved with playboy also you both are so intelligent beauty and brains and compassion for others is the best continue doing the podcasts and other endeavor's God bless..

[@MrBunny-e4g]

Holly and Bridget look gorgeous!

[@lns4life]

Holly said only 8 special playmate necklaces were made. Do you know which of those playmates gave the designer theirs? The designer that Holly likes. Who designed the new bunny costume in Vegas.

[@melodyryann9865]

I think Monica and her went to go smoke weed because so many people have said how cool she was because she would smoke weed with them. And Monica looks high as fuck when she is leaving Kendra’s room. And I always thought it was weird how long it took them and that they don’t show her in the room that much with Monica

[@riv05060]

I don’t get why he was so hard on you but Kendra could have a life and even got pregnant and he still spoiled her!

[@PizzaVoodoo]

Great Ep as always 💖💖💖

[@nikkisparks5467]

Hi ladies! I have a question for Bridget.. how come you weren’t a replacement for peep show in Vegas when Holly was taking a break? You would have been great, and people would have come!

[@dawnw0324]

She totally would have! I think she has the most sexy/seductiveness out of all three.

[@emilyjackson9366]

So interesting, I thought it was weird about the drink driving when watching the episode x

[@Roemilo]

I recently watched Hugh Hefner: Once Upon A Time ( it said it was made by Mark/Frost Productions and Twin Peaks is my special interest) BUT he brought up that freaking bed in it!!! And said it was vibrating! I think it's so funny that he was obsessed with it so much but I kind of feel like it was because of Austin Powers' popularity at the time because he had the same bed...and it did vibrate.

[@dustin628]

Kendra left to go smoke weed or do some nose candy or something. No other reason why grabbing a present would take 2 hours thats such addict behavior

[@mikehall2781]

yes! it happened to me when i was 12 yrs old. insane

[@annieonyoutube]

Where can we watch the episodes?

[@RachaelTownsend74]

Love you girls love from Australia ❤❤

[@ericacruz8261]

1:00:29 Ohhh good point Bridgett 🩷

[@ButImAGhosthunter]

Of COURSE Light as a Feather is Paranormal 😂🎉❤ it's a witch game, like Ouija. Have you never watched The Craft? Holly you're adorable and we love ya. Bridget you gotta take her on these table Flippin Canadian Paranormal adventures haha. Call up a ghost team (Project Fear, Sam & Colby 😉) you two would slayyyy. 🤣😁💝

[@heathermack3595]

I have a question, and I'd love to hear your discussion on it: Why playboy bunny and not Victoria's secret angel? Was it something even in your realm of thought back then, or was playboy still that popular in the 90s, that it was the peak of hot women?

[@arielsclamshellbra]

You can't just decide to be a Victoria's secret model one day, you have to be a model, the barrier to entry is astronomical. The comparison makes no sense whatsoever.

[@VillaParkHearts]

Bridget, I LOVE your sweatshirt!! xoxo #blueciferforever

[@WhatFC]

There's a big difference between gift bags and celebrity gifting.

[@erosdelcarpio5]

Good show🎉😊

[@jonny_mazerati9410]

I think holly would be Cinderella, Bridget would be Alice cause she’s adventurous and Kendra would be cruella since she hates dog stuff 😂

[@madelinewilson3573]

Goodie bags!

[@kellysblackcat]

Kendra is so insecure. She comes across as loud, bad mannered and insincere. She can't handle people being better at sport than her, she can't handle people having more attention, or like you said, good looking women, she feels inferior. I think her loudness is just a cover for someone very insecure. She is so annoying I don't know how you two didn't flip out on her. Disrespectful towards everyone, their time, their efforts etc. Just rude and petty.

[@jaimerodriguez3096]

How do these beautiful ladies get hotter and hotter each episode? keep it up 👍

[@cherylb2008]

It makes me wonder if Kendra was really unstructured Maybe even lazy It sounds like a teenager that wants to be up all night and sleep all day Hahaha “Kendra looks confused “

[@ct6852]

Partying really can be a full time job. If you do it right. lol

[@mistyessinger5090]

Holly the hair👀🔥💚

[@getadayjob]

I feel like Kendra wanted to have a life outside of the mansion. I definitely think she shared some personal secrets, aspirations and maybe her dating life with the playmate she clung to at any given time, things she didn't want Holly and Bridget to know. I think Holly and Bridget always kind of pulled Kendra back into the mansion which she didn't like. Interfering with plans, dates, and things she had wanted to do. I think that's where a lot of the resentment came from.

[@dextermoore278]

​@24kgoldplatedvermeil Kendra wasn't a Pick Me girl. Hef definitely picked out Kendra from hundreds of other girls who were Painted Ladies. Kendra was special.

[@dextermoore278]

@24kgoldplatedvermeil STFU!!! YOU HATERS AND TROLLS ARE SO PATHETIC AND DISGUSTING 🫣

[@ct6852]

I've definitely reconnected with friends where the bad memories would come flooding back, or I'd have bad dreams about them. And it would really suck. Because the bond was there and I wanted it to work so, so badly...but there was just too much of the 'frenemy' bullshit to forget. I wanted to forgive and forget more than anything. But sometimes it's just impossible if only one person cares about improving the toxic stuff. If both are both on board for making changes it's totally possible. But can be hard to get both parties on the same page. Anyways one fist fight later and it was basically over. Still sad about it. But sometimes more time and space is needed. Everyone needs a bank of positive experiences before you can revisit the harder relationships.

[@Tf03]

Holly do you have chronic fatigue? Just wondering or were you just describing being sleepy? I have some chronic fatigue illnesses and was just wondering. Love yall 🫶