Gishath Sun's Avatar: EDH (Updated) Deck Tech // Lost Caverns of Ixalan

[@xr9790]

One thing that they don’t tell you about Hunting raptors is that Alt costs aren’t like things like ninjutsu, they can be reduced. You aren’t getting the most out of it in this deck cause there aren’t as many reductions but under the right circumstances you can use that prowl cost to put down Dinos for just one mana

[@louelastic954]

Do cards like Kinjalli's Caller work with Prowl, or do you need cards that specifically reduce the effect cost?

[@xr9790]

@@louelastic954 yeah that’s the great part, anything that reduces creature spell costs work

[@devinmarvin3920]

Yes finally! Another Kaheera companion enjoyer. I also appreciate your advice about having no enrage dinos in the deck. With all these great new dinos, cutting creatures for upgrades has been a challenge. And you make a strong argument against enrage.

[@PubStompMTG]

I mean, dont get me wrong. I like enrage. But if you wanted to make an enraged focused deck, I would rather use the indoraptor or waita. Gishath wants so much power coming into play

[@brandoncreek5709]

Yeah, there are some enrage dinos that are too good to cut though. Apex Altisaur being a prime example.

[@Zalefa]

Is running Kaheera as a companion worth it when you can play Roaming Throne in the 99? This card is just so strong. I'm currently debating between runing them both in my deck, or cuting roaming throne to play Kaheera as a companion. Doubling Gishat's ability and all of your other good dino triggers is just that strong that I don't want to pass on it. What are your thoughts?

[@devinmarvin3920]

@Zalefa Very good point. I've been debating with myself on that. I think I'm gonna hold off on cutting the companion just to keep my dino deck all dinos(minus kaheera). Just thematically makes me happier. I could just add strionic resonator though!

[@gishathosaurus6828]

Great additions, specially with the double attack spells. I'm fond of using Mirror Entity because it goes unnoticed when it drops early and late game when you're flooded with mana from many ramps, you can make all of them swing for some big damage, even Ghaltas too

[@PubStompMTG]

Good choices!!!

[@trav9210]

You can always cast Zacama for a prowl cost of 3 to untap all your lands 😁

[@PubStompMTG]

🤑🤑🤑

[@edge929]

I pulled most of the enrage cards, added better ramp and cost reduction. Thought about using Kaheera in the 99 (not as companion) but the dinos are big enough. Pulled Return of the Wildspeaker for Overwhelming Stampede. The trample is too important and not all dinos have it. Elvish Piper is a good addition.

[@LotusMaster58]

Hell yeah! Solid upgrade from the first list!

[@PubStompMTG]

It was eventually going to happen!

[@raptorjesus7952]

Great video! Surprised that you don't include Polyraptor though, I feel like it's too strong to skip even if enrage is clunky. Wrathful Raptors with Star of Devastation is also a cool and flavorful tech in the deck.

[@PubStompMTG]

Good points!! I feel like polyraptor can be a good addition. I just didn't have it in here. Thanks for mentioning it!

[@ghost_tickler1575]

Honestly I’ve been running polyraptor for 6 months now and it just feels like a dead card. Idk if I’m not prioritizing it right but usually something else does more for me.

[@raptorjesus7952]

@@ghost_tickler1575 Mmm. it depends, it can be an annoying blocker, especially with Pyrohemia. As another card I currently consider adding Galadriel's Dismissal as I feel it's an amazing two use card, especially in Gishath Dinosaur Tribal deck.

[@ghost_tickler1575]

@@raptorjesus7952 yeah I see that. Usually end up dropping gish at 8 mana if it’s in hand, but flipping into it is good. Actually have Galadriel’s dismissal in my notes as a general add to all of my decks with white lol. Love it, and Legolas quick reflexes in my atla deck.

[@Xander44s]

I think adding Polyraptor guides you to add cards like Pyrohemia, then to a enrage mechanic wich is not the main objective of this.

[@rogerrabbit132]

Poetic Ingenuity almost makes me want to slide an Anointed Procession into the deck, plus Bonehoard Dracosaur would go nuts with Anointed Procession as well.

[@oneringer6295]

Have a gishath deck and definitely plan to get some of these for my deck! Thanks!

[@michaelhooper8559]

YEEEESSSSS NOBODY ELSE HAS UPDATED THIS DECK

[@dely9999]

I'm the only crazy guy that likes to play Gishath on a Green/Black deck? Using milling cards to sent him to the Graveyard and the Putting him back to the field with something like Tentacle Aparition (i don't remember the exact name is the 1/1green/1black spell that bring back a creature) and Miconid Resurrection idk i just found funny cheating the big dino with just a 2 color deck XD

[@gwiszitstaxtime7293]

I love this deck. I want to build a dino deck and will prob build about half of it. I'm being told I can't do the companion Kaheera? Why wouldn't we be able to do that?

[@PubStompMTG]

You can do a companion with Kaheera. As long as your deck consists of Dinosaurs, or the creatures listed, it should be fine

[@madih.5263]

i'm surprised you don't play the earthshaker dreadmaw in the gisath build he's really impressive and on of the best solution of draw in my opinion in dinosaurs with the altisaurs.I draw something juste like 8/12 card frequently. He's effet can trigger even when gishath can summon him and you can pair him with the new gathla for draw a lot summon the new gathla splash on the board the exess of dino draw and just finish the game (especialy if the regisaur was in the house or if a impact tremor was played in the deck). I also know that smothering tithes was a realy good ramp to splash but considering poetic ingeniosity especialy on a dino deck be really good for add free mana with treasure when your dino declare an attack generate the treasure and can still protect them if someone cast an ephemerate spell to save them self or adding ressources to safe our big bord of dino or just set up board wipe with protection spell or just accelerate the summoing of our lord and savior gisath. An another card you didn't ask on gisath but i find personnaly better than sensei divine top is scroll rack. Scroll rack save me many time to not help gishath to wiff is dino summoning. Ofc if just like me people didn't had sylvan library but had two of this artifact they can play both of them and benefit to each of this card. In speack of vigilance an another new big dino i love to play in my naya dino deck is dinosaur in the spaceship the fact that your board of dino created by gishath can attack with vigilance + bonus stats make it insame and the supsend version give to us tiny flyer who can ping some oppenent or help to had acces for some flavoured enchantement land card just like growing rite of itlimoc or the famous welcome in jurrasic park when is in land mode. They are so many card we can splash in it than we need to make a 24H video to speack about it. Exepted this note i'm glad to discover how other player played they gisath deck. on this one for example i discover the infinite extra combat phase with the enbchant and poetic and i surely add it to my deck now.

[@kylerowland1227]

I just pulled a rav! Adding it to my Dino deck immediate immediately

[@PubStompMTG]

It's wonderful!

[@psnscreamokujo6230]

Oh im definitely doing right. Id suggest self removal in case of a board wipe.

[@inoutsoccer11]

What’s the “best” way to get the Jurassic Park cards? Collectors boosters, singles, or the secret lair?

[@PubStompMTG]

Definitely singles for sure. Secret lair is a decent option too right now

[@deathnights-bane3301]

I have dinosaurs on a spaceship and flaming tyrannosaurus in mine, as flaming tyrannosaurus triggers of gishath or at least i think it is

[@Zalefa]

Is running Kaheera as a companion worth it when you can play Roaming Throne in the 99? This card is just so strong. I'm currently debating between runing them both in my deck, or cuting roaming throne to play Kaheera as a companion. Doubling Gishat's ability and all of your other good dino triggers is just that strong that I don't want to pass on it. What are your thoughts?

[@PubStompMTG]

Up to you. I like the challenge of deckbuilding with kaheera, but if im being honest, it's not super optimal. I like the idea of it because it incentives us to run, completely run only dinosaurs, acts as an 8th card in hand when starting the game, and buffs up gishath with the anthem. However, roaming the throne, doubling up gishath triggers can be quite insane along with doubling any dinosaur trigger, too.

[@MitchT97]

Thanks the great ideas. Do you find the humans that reduce Dino cost are not worth it then to add? I guess you get the companion option which is nice. Also did not know my deck already had an infinite combats combo haha. Thanks for helping me out 2 and 2 togther there I would’ve never thought about it 😅

[@PubStompMTG]

I feel like if you're getting to ramp a lot, i find them unnecessary because when you swing with gishath, you want to be hitting only dinosaurs. Thats atleast my take.

[@MitchT97]

@@PubStompMTG that’s a good point. The commander himself, ramp, and things like savage order probably do enough to not need them. Thanks!

[@chuckbilly-zg1ob]

Plus if you're utilizing Enrage in a broad way they'll die off anyway.

[@louelastic954]

@@PubStompMTGI don't see why you can't have the humans AND get pretty consistent hits with Gishath. I've found that a lot of Gishath decks put too many low CMC dinos in their deck that don't really do much. Why run Deathgorge Scavenger just because it's a dino when Intrepid Paleontologist exists? I don't like the idea of relying on Gishath, anyway. His biggest strength isn't playing him on curve, but playing him after someone has cleared the board.

[@brandoncreek5709]

​@louelastic954 Most of the humans are pretty bad. They're really just extra ramp for SOME of the cards in the deck, when you can just replace them with ramp that helps you cast ALL the spells in your deck. Plus, humans are lame. Forerunner of the Empire and Atzocan Seer are pretty good, but easily replaceable. We want to make sure we whiff as little as possible in this deck.

[@grazzhopper6799]

Finally kaheera love

[@Thaelkor]

Discover is absolutely busted for Dinosaurs, having tons of fun and doing well in my play group with the new cards.

[@PubStompMTG]

I agree. Makes dinosaurs extra splashy!

[@onyxrexdragon7129]

I personally think that Pantlaza is a better choice because there are dinosaurs that want cast triggers, not enter the battlefield triggers. Like the tarrasque ( which is not the best) but, more importantly, wakening sun's avatar and zacama, I had plenty of time that I needed their cast triggers, but they came in a different way. However, if you want to use gishath, why not use blade of selves and give gishath myriad?

[@PubStompMTG]

I would agree! This is just an update for people who play gishath. Love Pantlaza

[@xxArchAngelzz]

Blade of selves won't work with Gisath with the legend rule unfortunately.

[@ghost_tickler1575]

I wouldn’t go as far as saying better, but definitely more consistent. Throwing some low cost blink spells in pantlaza and guaranteed triggers go a long way, but gishath hits peaks much higher than pantlaza does if you’re playing Dino’s for both.

[@Soulryu11]

I really wouldn’t say Pantlaza is the better choice. It’s ability to discover is great but alot of Dino’s have high mana costs so you might miss on hitting your big Dino’s and just end up drawing with its ability more often than not. Gishath is a go wide deck with Dino’s that just cheat those big Dino’s into play, and honestly there’s very few Dino’s in the deck that have cast triggers over just etb triggers, so the pay off is just much higher. Gishath is still my main boy, with pantlaza in the 99 to help me filter through the deck when needed.

[@louelastic954]

I like having Gishath in my command zone. Opponents have to think twice about wiping the board and opening themselves up to his attack.

[@supremecourt4131]

Mirrir‘s Guile would fit perectly

[@PubStompMTG]

💯

[@ghost_tickler1575]

Nice list. Might as well add kaheera as a companion.

[@PubStompMTG]

Yep! Shes great!

[@Quansen45]

I wish we got a 4 color dinosaur commander so I could use Keruga instead of Kaheera

[@PubStompMTG]

That would be nice! I was hoping for more colors with dinosaurs too!

[@beatx264]

"Clever girl" 😊😊😊 👍🏻

[@PubStompMTG]

Why yes!!

[@CrackinJank]

Rawr!

[@PubStompMTG]

🦖

[@DiscordAceOfClubs]

Would a Roaming Throne be a good addition?

[@PubStompMTG]

I would say so to get double triggers

[@DiscordAceOfClubs]

Question for you, I am super new to magic so pardon my ignorance but why would you use the lands like Arid Mesa that cost a life point instead of a regular land.

[@madih.5263]

roaming throne is incredibly good for he's ability to double any trigger ability not simply the enter in the battlefield one so i can also double the trigger of giosath effect if i'm not wrong with that. And even if is not possible a looottt of dino had pretty good etb.Some example in vrac : -etali primordial conqueror, Bronzepeack , tranquill frillbrac, regisaur alpha,kogla and yiidaro, apex altisaur, gathla stampede tyrant, topiary stomper, flamming tyranosaurus (this one is better on a pantlaza focused deck), wrathfull raptor, etc.... Also considering the important note that if you play roaming thrones you can't play kaheera on the list but especialy iof you are a new player or low in a budget you can had other creature card whon can help you for a lower price to ramp or assit your dino.

[@Sagittarial-A-]

​@@DiscordAceOfClubsSo the purpose of cards like Arid Mesa is to sacrifice it and search your deck for a land of at least ONE of the two given type options. It can be both, and it can be one, but it has to have at least one of the types. This includes a cycle of lands called "Shock Lands," which refers to the lands that have two land types, and enter tapped unless you pay 2 life (which is similar to being affected by the card "Shock" that deals 2 damage). The purpose of this is having a flexible source of color fixing on demand in either tapped or immediately untapped use. This also applies to what are called "Triomes," the lands with THREE different land types, enter tapped but you could cycle them (pay the cost, discard the card from your hand, and draw a card), for even more flexibility on color fixing. This is only necessary for those who want consistency as fast as possible, but this does become costly money wise. This is why the lands that are common or uncommon that automatically enter tapped and only tap for one of two different colors are extremely cheap, compared to the ones that ask for life. Typically, if a land is asking for health for an effect, it usually is a very valuable effect on the game. Hope this made enough sense.

[@matthewtompkins4338]

@@DiscordAceOfClubsDeck thinning (less relevant in commander) which means the more lands you pull out of your deck the more likely you are to draw cards other than lands, and also mana fixing. Cards like Arid Mesa allow you to fetch more than just basic lands. For example, Arid Mesa can fetch a Stomping Ground if you need green mana since it’s both a Forest and a Mountain. The cost of only 1-3 HP is minimal in commander compared to being able to reliably play your cards every turn

[@Shadowmeire]

I dontnunderstand why more people are not including Isengard Unleashed in decks like this.... did people not get that card? Triple damage this turn that can not be blocked or prevented? With Dinos? With Gishath that would be 21 commander damage in a single hit and would instantly take someone out of the game and allow for that many cards to potentially be added to the battlefield, and then with Aggravated Assault you get another combat phase to utilize those Dinos you just put into the field to potentially win the game

[@sethadelman8]

Idk personally I think that a 5 mana 3R sorcery can be quite clunky at times and the way trample interacts with the triple damage is unfavorable as the multiplier is applied after trample damage is assigned. I write this with a fiery emancipation in my Xenagos god of revels deck so I am a fan of this sort of stuff just think that as a sorcery version even with flashback isnt the best fit for Gishath.

[@Shadowmeire]

@sethadelman8 see I didn't realize that Trample and a Multi interacted like this, but it's good to know. And it can be clunky, but with enough luck, (and ramp) it could be a good option to at least add in the x99. Any suggestions for something that's cheaper for a similar option?

[@sethadelman8]

@@Shadowmeire well torbran and mechanized warfare are cheaper theyre more limited and just worse. Not sure if theyre are any other triple damage spells that go for less than 5 mana though.

[@21Kikoshi]

haha FYI Gishath is a guy according to MTG lore

[@PubStompMTG]

I actually found that out while playing the arena on the Avatar page the other day before making this. I just assume many dinos are female haha

[@21Kikoshi]

​@@PubStompMTG​@PubStompMTG haha I see! Yeah some guys like having female characters. With dinosaurs or animals in general, if it looks very colourful or beautiful, it's usually a guy lol.

[@PubStompMTG]

@21Kikoshi yeah you do bring a good point! I dont care if they're female or male haha

[@21Kikoshi]

@@PubStompMTG yeah lol it's also a game so it could be whatever they wanted.

[@21Kikoshi]

​@@PubStompMTGI'm actually more disappointed in the poor choices they made in the JP Secretlair!

[@TheSpiritombsableye]

You cheat into play a bunch of Enrage dinosaurs, the opponent blocks or dies. If they block, Enrage triggers. Enrage is great for Gishath.

[@PubStompMTG]

Not saying it isn't. I just prefer etb creatures when they come down on the battlefield with gishath

[@l1ttl3br0]

Cardmarket this deck is more than £1000

[@PubStompMTG]

More of a template, can always change things here and there.