Trangia optionals that improves or extend the use of Your Trangia 25 or 27

[@OffTheBeatenPot]

I just can’t stop watching the flow of that river ! And you have the nicest cooksets.

[@Braapncamp]

Thanks my friend! A collection that started 20 years ago and has built up slowly... 👍🤠

[@Sirrehpotsirch]

Something that gets neglected when various cook systems are demonstrated is the heat-robbing effect of the wind. Even a slight wind will rob any cooking system of heat, which wastes fuel and lengthens cooking time. This becomes even more critical for alcohol burners when the temperature drops. The true utility of the Trangia Storm Cook System is that the effective wind screen design doubles as a practical pot stand while providing adequate airflow for the alcohol burner. With the exception of the fry pay, the kettle and the pots that Trangia supplies all fit well inside the protection of the upper windscreen. However, the large pot leaves a gap between the upper windscreen and the bottom of the pot, completely outside the protection of the upper windscreen. Additionally, the pot is directly in the path of the heat-stealing wind. Think about the amount of thermal energy, supplied by that small alcohol burner needed to bring water to a boil in that large pot. To save fuel, you would need to use a large folding windscreen that covered the large pot on top. I'm not saying that this large pot will NEVER work. But it definitely pushes the boundary of practicality for the the 25 and the 27. The best solution would be for Trangia to simply introduce even larger upper and lower windscreens storm cooker systems. The pot used for the 25 is so large that a suitably-sized lower windscreen may need to accommodate two burners. P.S. I'll offer this as well. Some companies make small two-piece cross pot stand that fits directly on the Trangia in order to use it independently of the Trangia windscreens. Here's a link to one on Amazon. www.amazon.com/Acxico-Outdoor-Camping-Alcohol-included/dp/B093PSVYDQ?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&psc=1&smid=A1RV7R81U3FOKU. Put this on the burner and then place a metal soup can lid on top before you set your pot or pan on the stove. It will act as a heat diverter to help prevent a hot spot in your pot or pan. Drill a few holes in the soup can lid to help with even heat distribution. I'm not sure why Trangia doesn't supply something like this already.

[@Braapncamp]

I gree to this, which makes the 27/25 one of the most storm proof sove/cook sets out there. If using frypan or large billy pot You really need to make a wind shield of some kind. I often use the packpack or find a better spot in the terrain. That alco burner pot stand looks nice and would be awesome to test.

[@meadowlarkgal23]

Very nice suggestions. I love the addition of the the non-stick pan with the folding handle. I will add the larger kettle to my Trangia 25. I am adding a billy pot to my Trangia 27. Good to know that the kits will still nest together.

[@Braapncamp]

Thanks! It really nice to have the ability to combine the stove to different type of situations 👌

[@Thereal111t]

My extended 25 kit is the 4.5l billy pot around the 25. I hold the billy pot closed with an Arno strap. You can find these on Amazon. I run it through the loop on the lid and through the gap on the side where the bail handle connects. Also I add the Primus 25cm stainless steel skillet to the bottom and an old household pan lid on the top. It all fits inside the canvas bag that came with the Primus pan. I will try to do a video soon.

[@Braapncamp]

Thanks for Your tips. That sounds like the perfect set up for family camping or among friends! It would be really cool to see a video on that one. 🤠👍

[@scotthill6807]

Thereal111t, I love your outdoor gear and cooking videos. Funny that we're watching the same videos. I just found this channel myself.

[@Braapncamp]

I will check your channels as well, always interesting to watch outdoor related videos! 👍🏻

[@JochenSteglich]

Nice. What also matches very well is a Trangia 27 that perfectly fits into the Tatonka 2.5 (stainless pot + pan). And I'm running my Trangia with an Optimus Polaris multifuel burner. With the legs folded in it's cilindric shape fills the whole quite nice without any modifications.

[@Braapncamp]

Thanks! This is a great contribution to our community. Your kit sounds very flexible and like a optimal combo.

[@jonasamna]

Thanks Mattias for a great comparisant video of the trangia kitchens. I just ordered the Trangia 27-4 ha and looking forward to some outdoor cocking in the lovely autumn and winter thats ahead. Have a nice day and throttle on ....

[@Braapncamp]

Thanks Jonas, a proper storm cooker has it's place in every home. Sure Yiu will have some nice and warming outdoor meals at the season ahead of us. Sometimes we just determine a point of interest for a hike with a secondary goal to just eat our dinner outdoors. We did that every Sunday a part if last year. Really nice!

[@onlyonetoserve9586]

Pleese keep yore outdore fetish two yoreslef

[@Braapncamp]

😂😂 will do dude! But i think you would feel good being more outdoors. 👀☝️😁

[@OscarTahr]

I came across your video while researching the 725-24 frypan and the 1.4l kettle. You convinced me - ordered both from Trangia via the 'seconds' store. So far only used them at home but they are brilliant, definite upgrades. Thanks for the info. (I would love a 725 frypan with the detachable handle in the standard diameter for the Trangia 25, maybe they will make it one day). Next order will be the pot stand!

[@Braapncamp]

Thats cool Oscar, definitely an upgrade 👌 Happy chef'ing out there 💪🤠🔥

[@gearhead-do1xh]

Hi Mattias, have you ever tried or have thoughts about using the unconverted Optimus Polaris with legs folding with a modified trangia 25 windscreen ?

[@Braapncamp]

Hi, no never really been into that. I have the Trangia X2 multifuel burner for the occations where would need the multifuel capacity or just because. But it is a cool idea! 🤌🔥

[@meadowlarkgal23]

I like the Trangia 25 set with the billy pot. I can cook corn on the cob or make a nice pot of stew or chili!

[@Braapncamp]

That's great! Do You have recipes?

[@meadowlarkgal23]

Mattias Eriksson My father usually cooked this Chili recipe in the Fall when it first started to get cold outside. In a large pot cook 2lbs of beef, add one large diced onion, when the meat starts to brown. Add 20 oz tomatoes and 15 oz of tomato sauce from the canned food section. Then stir in 16 oz of kidney beans. The rest of the recipe is the seasoning:1/3 cup of chili powder, 1/2 tsp cumin, 2 tsp oregano powder, 2 tsp paprika, 2 tsp salt and 3 tsp minced garlic. Bring it to a boil then simmer for 40 minutes. Serve warm with shredded cheese, diced onions and sour cream.

[@Braapncamp]

Jan thanks, sounds tasty!

[@jarikinnunen1718]

I was bought stainless steel food plate which match with 25 model. It`s very light and better for eat than from pot.

[@Braapncamp]

Jari Kinnunen Thats a great tip! Feels better to eat from steel. Happy outdoor cooking! 👍🏻

[@foxdogcattop]

Thanks for showing road to simplicity.

[@Braapncamp]

Thanks Ed! Happy trails 👌

[@rubyduffield-harding7771]

Hello Mattias, I just want to say thank you for giving some of your precious time to help others. I really liked the idea of the larger frying pan for the 25 set. It would be interesting to see the rest of your camping equipment; i will watch more of your videos! Cheers, or is it Skol?

[@Braapncamp]

It's Skål my friend!🍺 Thanks, I have some upcoming video on .my outdoor gear. Pros/cons and a give away to that Subject. Stay tuned 🙌

[@scotthill6807]

I enjoyed your video, thank you. I have a Trangia 28 and really like it paired with the Kettle for the 27. I can cook just about anything for myself with this combination. I may get a Trangia 27 next. I burn only Denatured Alcohol and get no soot.

[@Braapncamp]

Thanks Scott! That is a very useful and minimalistic kit but still robust! I use a alcohol named Tenol and that does not soot much to speak of either! I never need to use the ”10% water method”.

[@nseight]

Thank you so much for taking the time to share* :-)

[@Braapncamp]

Tanks for your kind comment! Much appreciated.

[@dynamodav]

With the 27, when you put it in the billy pot, doesn’t the strap come off and go on the outside through the billy pot lid? If it’s tight enough it might just fit and secure the whole thing together?

[@Braapncamp]

Yes thats true, and it does! I missed to show that part. Thanks for this input to the thread. It is a very tight fit, especially if You have the 27 in its storage bag. I like this kit very much and it makes the 27 good for a larger meal. I have a video where i make some moose / beef stew in the billy pot on the 27. 👌🤌🏻

[@dynamodav]

@@Braapncamp thanks for taking the time to reply. I have the 25 duossal. I want to buy the 27 but wanted a steel kettle and trangia don’t do one. I’ve ordered the Thous Winds mini kettle, it’s dimensions suggest it’s the same size as the Trangia 0.6l kettle. Let’s see anyhow, all part of the fun. I can also recommend the the MSR stowaway pots with their secure closure.

[@Braapncamp]

@@dynamodav It is rather popular to get ss kettles to the Trangia. The MSR Stove Away Pots are great, I have the 775ml version which fit a woodgas stove inside perfectly. Great kit as well, the woodgas stove couls also be run with a Trangia alco burner.

[@jnsdebraekeleer]

Hi Mattias I have been watching all your trangia videos, thanks you so much for shareing your experience! I have decided on getting a 25 duossal set, looks like a great system. I really like to cook on stainless, especially searing meat is much better than non stick. I would however love to add a second non stick frying pan in the set to make fried eggs, fish or pancakes easier, but don't want to inscrease the size so the whole thing still fits in the nice EVA case. It looks like a 27 frying pan, although it's a bit wider than the pots and it would be a rather tight fit and hard to grab with the pot holder during cooking, could fit inside the windshield on the pot holders for cooking and could also be packed flipped upside down over the pots inside the windshield for storage. Could you confirm that that works? Is there still enough room for the pot holders to be flipped in and the duossal frying pan to close normally? I would also like to add the Multi Disk. I think that should still fit as well? I however don't need a kettle. Maybe an idea for another video? 😊 Take care!

[@Braapncamp]

Thanks, much appreciated! Interesting idea, I may have tried this in the past. I will test this and come back on how it works out. At the beginning of next week.

[@jnsdebraekeleer]

@@Braapncamp Have you had the chance to test this yet? 😊

[@Braapncamp]

Unforrunately not ​@@jnsdebraekeleer, my daughter borrowed the 27 for some weekends of kajaking.

[@jnsdebraekeleer]

@@Braapncamp Oh, haha, okay, unfortunate. Hope you can then test it out sometime after she’s back 😊

[@gearhead-do1xh]

Thank you for all your great videos. Just wondering what you know about the 25-23 2.0 D and the wrinkles on the stainless inner pot I've seen on my new pots and was described in a printout with my pots? Is it as common and a non issue like they make it sound on the duossal page or is Amazon selling us defective seconds from trangia? Thanks for your help

[@Braapncamp]

Thanks! See my other reply on the wrinkles. No Amazon just deliver what Trangia produces in this case.

[@jhh243]

Is it possible to flip the kettle lid upside down and have it fit better?

[@Braapncamp]

If I record correctly it did not get a better fit. I have got that question before. Happy trails 🔥

[@jhh243]

@@Braapncamp thank you sir!

[@Hoepli23]

Thanks! For the 24cm fryingpan there Is a lid that you know?

[@Braapncamp]

I think that there is a lid available from Trangia. The even have a similar 24 frypan that I deeper /öarger volume.

[@Hoepli23]

@@Braapncamp do you know the name of the models?

[@Braapncamp]

Frypan 24cm XL Art.nr: BF307258 Cant see a separate lid that i know fit. But there is another frypan with lid included Art.nr: BF307260. This frypan is of another type so i don't know hoemw it fits and it does not mount on the Trangia 25 kit in the same way. One of the commenters in this videos comments report that he's not happy with the fit of the frypan that i have. I have used mine since the 90's and it works great for me.

[@alejandroc1062]

The BF307258 is actually 29 cm in diameter, so quite a lot larger than the 24 cm. It also does not seem to have thick bottom, which affects heat distribution. The larger size in itself though is of course a plus, but would it be possible really to use this 29 cm pan with the trangia 25, as stated by Trangia?

[@Kooroshcamp]

Hello friend You're video was very good

[@Braapncamp]

Thanks! 🙌

[@alexmacdonald258]

Hi Matthias, I finally got to try that gas burner you recommended in another of your videos, and it worked perfectly; Thanks very much!! I used it first to steam bake some Packit Gourmet chocolate muffins (so good I'm not entirely sure they're legal!), and then a pot of sausage & chicken Orzo pasta. All simmered perfectly! So tack igen!

[@Braapncamp]

Wow that sounds delicious! Any recipe to share? A video maybe 😁👌

[@alexmacdonald258]

@@Braapncamp Don't have any videos, but the Orzo was easy-a one pot dinner. For 2 people, I browned some spicy Italian sausage and diced chicken thigh, added diced onions, and deglazed the larger Trangia pot with chicken stock. Then about a half cup of tomato sauce and brought it to a boil. I tossed in a scant cup of Orzo pasta, a little more salt, reduced the heat and let it simmer until the pasta absorbed the chicken stock. I had to add more stock, and frequently had to stir to keep the mix from sticking to the bottom of the thin wall pot though. I also chopped some spinach and added that when the pasta was almost done. Then I added a handful of parmesan, mixed it into the pasta, and plated it with a large spoon of ricotta cheese in the middle. Filling, and very good! I'm working up a bunch of easy one-pot meals to help us cut down the costs of our skiing. We drive 4.5 hours one way, and stay in a hotel where we ski, so not having to dine out really helps our costs so we can ski more often-this is Alpine, but Nordic, I can just step out my back door!

[@Braapncamp]

@@alexmacdonald258 wow, nice! One pot cooking is something i need to lern more of. Very nice to keep i down to one pot to focus on. I see, perfect to cook on the 25 then if you are using it for dinner on ski vacations. Thats a good use as well, more ski and less expenses.

[@rageagainstthestoneage7865]

great video! where did you get your jumper from? very dashing!

[@Braapncamp]

rageagainst thestoneage thanks! I bought it in Norway years ago.

[@Mr.SteveMcQueen]

I really like your videos. You cover Trangia products thoroughly. The Swedes make great stove products. However this set up is too heavy and bulky for backpacking. The outdoor industry is changing to lighter and less bulky products. I wish Trangia would make a one & two man cooking pot system smaller and with titanium. If they would I would buy it in a heart beat. Primus made the Omni Lite Ti and I purchase it. I love the light

[@Braapncamp]

Thanks! I wonder if not Trangia made a Ti version of the Trangia Mini (T28)? Limited numbers. I use the T28 for alot of adventure where I like lower weight and volume of the stove. I know that yhe industrie goes for the lightweight stove to boil water with to use dehydrared meals. I think Trangia definitely should srick to their classic design, development som of it and ofc offer a minimalist system. In this spring they will introduce the Micro Trangia.

[@Mr.SteveMcQueen]

I agree, keep the classic system great for base camping and even for canoe or packing slide in winter where weight and bulk is less crucial. Trangia has such a great reputation. I believe they could make a awesome ultra light titanium cooking kit that would sell big time.

[@Shadow_Wraith]

@@Braapncamp What is this micro Trangia? I've searched google and found nothing.

[@LexLuthor1234]

Hey Mattias, and thank you for the video :) I do wonder,- i mean you have probably tried this already, but could simply turning the 1,4 liters lid upside down potentially lower how much of it sticks out? That way the handle would be pointing down into the kettle after all. Just a thought 🙂 Kind regards, Claus

[@Braapncamp]

That definitely helps Claus! This was up as suggestion before by fellow Trangia fan in the comments. Thanks and Happy Trails Claus!

[@LexLuthor1234]

@@Braapncamp Hello again Mattias :) aha, i hadnt seen that, but it is good news that there is an easy method to solve the problem at least partially! :-) Happy trails to you as well! Claus

[@kursk8]

Ughh wish I could find the 2.5L billy!

[@Braapncamp]

Hey Luke, Trangia have a factory webshop that ships worldwide. Happy trails!

[@vaamorais]

Hi Mattias, greetings from UK! Great video with a lovely background views and sounds. Very useful information about options for the Trangia cook sets. I have the Trangia 27 but I would like to try the 24cm frying pan for occasionally making pancake for the family. Would this pan fit on the pot supports of the Trangia 27? Or is it way much bigger and would loose efficiency? Let me know your thoughts. Reason my asking is that I could justify purchasing the 24cm frying pan for those occasions, but the entire 25 coolest I think would be too much investment for very little use. Thank you.

[@Braapncamp]

Thanks! The 24cm pan is to big for the 27. It won't be stable on top. Heat should not be the problem though. Better to get i.e. a Muurikka Picnic and plan for open fire cooking at these occasions. If that is possible for your hikes.

[@jarikinnunen1718]

I invent trick to have trangia suitable with many gas burner. Two wire in upper wind shield which support it on the burner pot stand legs. Four small holes an two wire it require.

[@Braapncamp]

Thats cool!

[@jkk103]

Thank you for sharing this video! I really like the idea of expanding the use without adding too much bulk to the existing stoves. One question...have you tried adding a larger pan to the 27’s top or base like you did with the 25? I am thinking of getting the 27 but afraid the pan diameter is too limiting for two people. The billy pot might be great for stew but might not work best for frying burgers, eggs, etc.

[@Braapncamp]

Thanks! No I have not expanded the 27 with a larger frypan. I tested the 25 frypan but it does not sit well on the frypan stands. I would be interested in that too since I think that the frypans size is the only drawback on the 27.

[@jkk103]

@@Braapncamp Thanks for the quick reply, Mattias. I have seen some people prop a larger pan up with a small metal grill rack, but I did wonder if the 25 pan fits. If you only have one stove in the 27 size, would you go HA or duossal for the same price? I do worry about sticky surface/difficulty cleaning but not sure if it’s worth the extra weight.

[@Braapncamp]

I would probably go with the HA. There is no significant difference in how they behave regarding cleaning and cooking. If I should buy a 25 and use it for basecamp, vehicle based use etc, i would go with the Duossal. You cant really go wrong and if you later would like a nonstick or Duossal frypan you can always complement for a reasonable cost. Spares are low priced.

[@Mr420brad]

Hi was wondering if you might be able to answer a question that’s been rattling around my mind. Will a 27 complete nest in a bare 25 ?

[@Braapncamp]

You mean nest in the 25 windshield only? I cN check that. But i know that the 27 does not fit in a complete 25 without kettle.

[@Mr420brad]

@@Braapncamp ThankQ for your reply. I would only need the pots an kettle from the 27. Be nice to have the two frying pans and windshields for bigger camps

[@Braapncamp]

I will give it a try and get back in a few days.

[@Braapncamp]

@@Mr420brad hi again, i tested this today. The 27 fits perfect inside the 25 windshield and base. The problem comes to the 25's 3 potstands that can't be folded down when the 27 sits inside. So this will not work without a mod on the stands and how they are fastened.

[@Mr420brad]

@@Braapncamp well ThankQ for trying it out for me. Something to put on the back burner to look into the mods needed. Thanks again 👍🏼

[@hkleung2]

Hi，Is Trangia Mini fit to put in 27 or not？And 27 is fit to put in 25?

[@Braapncamp]

Hi, no not really. Some parts could be combined but it does not fit straight away like that.

[@hkleung2]

@@Braapncamp Thanks☺️

[@willisblevins4190]

Very good thanks

[@Braapncamp]

Tanks Willis, God Jul!

[@OscarTahr]

Have to wonder why Trangia don't make the frypan in the standard diameter for the 25? Its an obvious upgrade for owners.

[@OscarTahr]

Was going to ask about nesting over the standard frypan but see you showed that - maybe that's why they made it larger, on purpose

[@Braapncamp]

Hi, they just made it larger on request and while doing it the made it to fit over the existing. The also make a "deeper version now". Great complement for easier cooking.

[@OscarTahr]

@@Braapncamp Just ordered a 725-24, looking forward to seeing how it goes. Thanks for the demonstration

[@Braapncamp]

Happy trails and cook with style 💪🤠🔥

[@treasurethetime2463]

I was watching on low resolution and I thought your sweater was chainmail lol . I thought this guy takes survival really seriously.

[@Braapncamp]

👀😂 that was fun. Love this sweater or "lusikofta". 👌

[@Fjall-Anders]

Thanks for sharing

[@Braapncamp]

Tack för återmatningen Anders 👌.

[@gijoe44]

can you turn the lid of the larger kettle upside down and it fit better?

[@Braapncamp]

Interesting idea! Will try and get back to You about that.

[@Braapncamp]

J. Fielden I tried but the lid builds more hight up side down. I think trangia should do a foldable ”lid grabber”, like a small metal triangle like others. Probably even less weight and cost effective in production.

[@dennisyoung4631]

Yes, I have “other” kinds of pots…

[@Mangesmith]

Jag handlade en sådan större stekpanna efter att ha sett din video och hört dig säga att den passar perfekt! Den passar skit dåligt rent ut sagt då diametern på basen emot piggarna är för stor för att ligga platt men för liten för att lägga på de 3 översta små platåerna. Summering: 24cm stekpanna ifrån trangia passar inte perfekt på 25 kök då den hamnar snett och har stor risk för att vinklas och därmed spilla ut din mat.

[@Braapncamp]

Bra inlägg i saken. Jag har dock använt den sedan 90-talet på 25'an med stöden uppfällda och fortsätter med det. Borde vara samma mått på pannan nu som då. Perfekt är det inte men funkar.

[@Mangesmith]

@@Braapncamp enda sättet jag får den att passa "perfekt" på är genom att tvinga ner dess något för stora diameter i armarna. Pannan är tyvärr för liten för att passa på de översta små platåerna 😒

[@Braapncamp]

Ok, det låter som att det kan finnas en skillnad då från min äldre 24cm panna. 25 köket är ett Duossal frå 90-talet också. Det första jag köpte.

[@amazingwhooo6418]

U are genius

[@Braapncamp]

Not really but thanks 😁👍

[@squirrelcovers6340]

Flip the teapot lid UPSIDE DOWN

[@Braapncamp]

Sounds great, thanks for the tip!