How To Pack Your Bags For Bikepacking

We don't tend to think about how we pack our bags when going on a trip, but if you're bikepacking it's absolutely vital that all the bags on your bike are packed correctly. Josh runs through his top tips for packing when going bikepacking.
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Once you've decided on what kit you need to bring with you on your bikepacking trip, you'll need to have a proper think about the order and placement of all your things on your bike. If the weight isn't distributed correctly your bikes handling can be quite considerably affected. For example you want your heaviest items to go in a frame bag as the weight is the most central, and the lowest possible on the bike.
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[@gcn]

Do you have any bag packing tips you want to share? Let us know!

[@jackhammer40k_]

Mug on seatbag: practicool

[@swarnendumunshi]

You should have discussed about installation of rear bike rack and pannier packing.....so that even a tour of more than one day can be covered easily......and the mention of the fact that 40:60 ratio must be maintained for weight distribution in rear and front respectively....

[@adamr6629]

Where did you leave your bike box?

[@cz8085]

just take a backpack like this one: www.ortlieb.com/de/Velocity/

[@DRMatt-zd4rh]

bonus tips: if you have aero bars, you can keep a small bag between them with small/ quick access items, letting place on the top tube for the mattress. bottles on the fork balance the bike ant les you put a full frame bag, wich is way bigger. some saddle bags include a rigid horisontal support that lower the bag and reduce ''swing''. NEVER take a backpack heavier than a kilo, after a couple of days your knees, back and hips will tell you. its also good to keep tools and a spare tube close, as searching them can add a lot of stress in case of a mecanic in a no man land...

[@RafaelZanolla]

A golden tip I found elsewhere here on KZbin is, whenever you look for something in your bags / panniers while out on a trip and manage to find it on a different one, consider moving it to the first place you thought it was, as it is already etched in your mind. I applied it on the last trips I took using a more traditional touring setup and, simple as it is, it really helped me define places for the weird bits like toilet paper or my buff. Also, please make Global Bikepacking Network a thing!

[@acousticgearhead7820]

Love that you are doing this bike-packing/gravel special! The real question I keep asking myself though is: When will we be able to get a hold of those fetching not-quite-baggy shorts?

[@KeirGroves]

They're Assos and can be found on the Assos site, although without the GCN logo!

[@gcn]

Hey Acoustic Gearhead, thanks! Keir has got it right there, they are on the ASSOS website. They were branded with the GSN logo as a one-off 👍

[@bicycleutopia]

Both these guys are articulate presenters. How rare!!!! Somin really is great in front of the camera: he's funny; doesnt interrupt his guest; his comments ADD to the guest's info, for expansion of emphasis.

[@HSV-mb9gf]

*I did my last overnight Bike & Camp in jeans and a T-Shirt on a heavy bike with panniers.* *Moral of this is don't get too caught up in having the right gear or looking the part just go out there and enjoy*

[@KandiKlover]

True I prefer real touring bikes and regular clothes too. 2400 miles on flat pedals thank you

[@brozerosucks]

I mean being well prepared makes it 10x easier to enjoy than having to deal with things cause a person decided to procrastinate or their to cool to get "all that lame cycling gear" I mean my ass has no problem with some nice padding from the chamois and not having to worry since I brought the right shit and my personal pride didn't get in my way. Pride that's the one thing that's going to fuck you over in the long run

[@gravedoja]

My first bike packing trip was in 92 I think, gear stuffed into a kwicksave bag and tied onto a rear rack, no tent or sleeping pad just a cheap sleeping bag and some clothes, it was the summer though. I have a photo somewhere.

[@ftrujillomunizaga]

Adding a 15lt backpack to my 2 main back and front bags makes the perfect setup as i cant't live without my camelbak. 2 bags 1 backpack and im set for a full week!

[@rhysrunsriot]

Damn, the knee thing was a good tip - I just got back from riding across Germany. I had to carry a lot in my rear bag and it did swing quite a bit despite the straps being as tight as I could pull them. Will try that next time.

[@gcn]

Rhys Howell A great top tip from Josh!

[@rossmcarthur7955]

4:20 legit coffee sip

[@Boopop1024]

I know bikepacking is very much in vogue at the moment, but could you do a series in bike touring (.inc camping) at some point? Feeling a bit left out! Cheers :)

[@gcn]

Hey Tom, great idea, it's certainly something we can look into

[@bhumiriady]

Fantastic video as usual! It's important to correctly pack your items before going out bikepacking! Hats off to Si and Josh!

[@gcn]

Thanks! Omaris Bhumiriady

[@bhumiriady]

You're welcome! (^_-)

[@tommyharrold287]

Brilliant video. Been trying to find this sort of thing with a great level of detail everywhere. Thank you GCN

[@gcn]

Tommy Harrold Glad we could be of help!

[@MountainousAmbitions]

I did LEJOG with 1 pannier bag and a backpack with a camel bladder. Packing was never an issue - just remember to put the heavy kit at the bottom and keep the important stuff (i.e. phone / food / layers / spares) accessible (i.e. in your backpack). What this video proves is that if you want to waste half an hour getting packed and setting off every morning then use multiple packs.

[@danielwang5467]

What about a bike lock

[@kelvinyonger8885]

Bikepacking is mostly camping, I doubt anyone is gonna steal your bike. Anyway, what would you lock it around? For bike touring though it might be more useful.

[@Huibelpaard]

The Safeman cable lock is compact and relatively lightweight (costs about 22 euros) and if your friend has one too, you can combine the locks

[@delrodgers3267]

Ya don’t need it when you’re backpacking

[@delrodgers3267]

Bikepacking

[@EspenFrafalne]

@@kelvinyonger8885 I try to lock my bike to trees...

[@shpadoinkle_wombat]

What about first aid kit?

[@JS-tb9hu]

Important

[@mariuskaupas]

Rain keeps the blood away

[@Dusty357]

Gaffa tape and bog roll and some paracetamol, all go in my toiletries bag. That's all my first aid kit.

[@NickMaovich]

frame bag / top tube bag

[@EspenFrafalne]

Good idea... I gotta get me one of those first aid kits...

[@nooksak1]

I have that same top tube bag and love it!

[@gcn]

nooksak1 Great!

[@chrisbaylis4733]

Super useful as we have our first trip coming up!

[@SPN-78]

Who'd had thought bag packing could be so interesting. Great video!

[@gcn]

Steve Norris Cheers Steve!

[@mikolajbe]

Hi! It's a great video :) Could you make one about travelling with a trailer? Maybe a comparison between travelling with your stuff packed into a trailer and on a bike, which would say which way is more efficient and which is more comfortable. Maybe it depends on a type of roads one travels or some other features. It would be really interesting to watch. Cheers!

[@altrightvegan4809]

One essential item I did not see is BABY WIPES, believe me nothing worst trying to sleep in a sleeping all dirty and sweaty.

[@SeaBike007]

I usually pack 2 per day (they are critical, but for other reasons, and remember an empty plastic bag to go along!). The weight of wipes can really add up. For simply getting clean, it's best at a water source (eg: when you find a gas station or restaurant, or at campsite with water). In that case + wash cloth that gets re-used and wringed dry. If no water is available, a small vial of camping soap can take the place of water and help knock off any dirt before getting into sleeping bag liner

[@ftrujillomunizaga]

Baby wipes are my must have on my superdeluxe toilet kit. I go feeling dirty, and return feborn 👌

[@hoser7706]

I am amazed people don’t pack more items in order of use. For example on your seat bag put your sleeping bag/quilt in first, then add pillow and mat/pad, then your tent or bivy andon top of it last items in might be a light cook kit and down/warm layers. When first at camp you put on your down layers then setup camp in the order items come out in. Tent. Pad. Quilt. In the AM you reverse the order for packing. And up front carry a bar bag with clothes and personal items you take with you in shops etc.

[@yojerico5856]

Great powerbank to add to that setup ZNEX NOTSTRØM | Water (IP67), Dust + Shockproof Power Bank

[@MrLobsterity]

i have the same tires on my touring bike :) but i just throw everything into a 40L rear rack bag and tie a 2-man camping tent on top of it

[@sventice]

What rear rack bag are/were you using?

[@JGstunts22]

What tires? Also what bike are they using ?

[@MrLobsterity]

@@sventice The rack is Topeak Super Tourist Uni; The bag was "500 double rear pannier bike bag" from Decathlon. Now i'm using two separate 15l bags, 13$ each, also from Decathlon, called "100 rear pannier bag" :) their 15l bags are far more comfortable, because they hang further from my legs and i can't hit them with a leg accidentally.

[@MrLobsterity]

@@JGstunts22 Continental SpeedKing 2.2. It's one of the most "road" tires for mountain bikes. On the offroad it's not a competitive racer, but doesn't force you to dismount on sand or mud, because of it's wideness. Don't know anything about their bike

[@stephenpellerine5295]

I think I saw a passport, which is usually in a place we can easily access, for many reasons (hotel registration, ID, securing it on person when away from the bike). Common sense right, I think. I would add - from experience to place such documents into a small waterproof bag. I have had a passport get waterlogged once, and since that time my new shiny "replacement" lives in a waterproof bag. Just a thought.

[@nizarfakhoury]

Excellent summary, thank you!

[@Whippasnapper]

this bloke josh is a good presenter, sign him up

[@getoutmore]

How exactly did he secure his "cooking system" on top of the seat pack? Was hoping for a closer look at that. Would have been very helpful

[@Slimmilar]

@GCN Please do a video on how to take an ebike on an international flight and pay attention to the battery pack. Thanks.

[@josephfarrugia2350]

A Medium size frame for Si on the Exploro? Maybe he's running a long stem? I'm 5' 7" (170cms, 29.5" inseam) & the geometry of size M with a 85-90mm stem with 25-30mm spacers is a practically a perfect fit for me.

[@peternoble4172]

Comments on sleeping mats, please? Inflatable or foam with silver backing? The latter is much lighter but bulkier, that should not be a problem if it is attached to the webbing on the seatpost bag, though.

[@ryancarroll8086]

Love the content, doing my first overnight trip soon! What wheels and tires are you guys running?

[@DariusRamelis]

I'm not particularly cool too, but I want my camping mug to be visible as well. 😎😁

[@brankomijatovic5023]

Any reason you guys didn't cover panniers/racks for longer trips? or is that not considered "bikepacking"?

[@davidmartynowicz3059]

Would love to see you guys talk about a more realistic bike: Trek 520

[@ack1128]

So would you not wear clipless shoes and pedals while bike packing?

[@yrureadingthisname]

I got an old 80s Bianchi and I have to ask - how the hell do you fit a bar bag between the handle bars? I just got a Blackburn 11L bar bag and it barely fits between my bars with nothing in it. Are these newer bar frames wider then the older ones? Thinking about getting flat bars instead of drops.

[@marinemagnolia]

Where do you put a tent?

[@conorcarletonmusic]

Do you not need bike locks? Where would you store these?

[@OP04player]

How heavy is the road bike after packing?

[@JS-tb9hu]

OP04player 11kg?

[@OP04player]

J S how can you be so sure? Did you just guess?

[@JS-tb9hu]

Yeh that's my guess

[@skoockum]

The full weight is the combined weight of the bike plus the weight of the gear and bags, minus the buoyant force of any helium or hydrogen you happen to have loaded.

[@phxrsx]

Future presenter in our midst.

[@metanon2010]

What if you've got cables running under the top tube? Will the top tube bag interfere?

[@silcas]

Why are bar bags, and large saddle bags so popular now, as opposed to rear panniers, and front fork bags? Surely the lower center of gravity, of the latter, would be safer.

[@manfrummt]

What ever happened to racks and panniers? Why am I so far behind the curve?

[@dekanagoy619]

How about front panniers? Low stable aero if you get good ones, and like the way they lower the center of gravity. Also what about the BIKES? Yours look very specialized and custom for fast touring, not what I’m used to seeing, are they mountain bikes or hybrids? More please in detail, thanks...

[@gcn]

Check out Si's bike and set up here Black gcntech.co/3texploro

[@holzhacker3]

Love the video. Could you tell me which size the Topeak Backloader is in this video? 10l or 15l. Not sure which I should go for. Thanks ! :)

[@andrewlew5964]

Would like to see Josh's pack list for 6 months, and if he included a tent?

[@rinoirwan]

Where can I buy those GCN cycling bibshorts you guys wearing during this bikepacking video?

[@ag1805x]

What about tent?

[@WanderABit]

Did the rear safety triangle come with bag or you bought it separately? For extra bottles I recommend using straps, several companies offer such solution (I use Elite VIPs), big triangle bag inside a frame is no-go, because with side wind you would have to fight to keep your balance, not worth the effort just for keeping bottle inside.

[@gcn]

Maciej Pilichowski Thanks for the tip!

[@phil_8296]

Hello Whats the name of your bibs in this video? How can i find this type of bibs? The loose type one? Sorr yfor my english :D :D

[@smiler0charon]

What protective tape do you recommend?

[@JamesHandley1989]

Nice video chaps - very informative. I've been wanting to get a decent saddle pack for some time now but unfortunately i've got an aero seat tube. Do you have any suggestions?

[@JamesHandley1989]

Appreciate you liked my comment guys. Any idea on my question though?

[@fuyihan920]

i always wondering where my tent should be... if someone could answer me... thanks a lot

[@cenkaytekin]

Panniers or on top of a rear rack?

[@snazzysailor]

i would turn the mug the other way so it doesn't catch the wind

[@pixiedixie3682]

Instead to use a saddle pack , use a pair of panniers , you can put all your stuff and the bike is more stable , I guess ?

[@nicklk132]

what about a tent?

[@David_Rafuse]

Inside the support/transport vehicle.

[@TinyWorlds]

Where's the tent tho?

[@catchbonus]

where i can get all these bags online?

[@tmskdlvj007]

Ohhh... is it can climb?

[@johndoes2434]

Tape weave that nasty residue and you got to use chemicals to get it off it's best to go to the Sporting Goods section and find the rubberized racket or handlebar wraps and just use a little bit of rubber but you can find giant rubber bands for the postman and wrap it around the banging that way you don't you get the anti slip and you don't have to deal with the domed glue residue

[@donnchadhroarty52]

I love the idea of backpacking but where in the uk can you buy these bags or do you get them online

[@DaveWarnock]

donnchadh roarty I like the stuff from www.wildcatgear.co.uk which is all made in the UK

[@gcn]

donnchadh roarty Hi, Si used Topeak bags, you can get them online 👍

[@donnchadhroarty52]

Global Cycling Network yeah I looked throught their range and you can get great bargains on amazon,Thanks

[@Amado0314]

Where’s your tent?

[@1Mrsensitive]

Why not use panniers ?

[@zoid88]

Mentions apidura bags are waterproof, yet the topeak saddle bag Si has comes with a dry bag included at a third of the price....

[@Bikepacking]

Bikepacking is like a game of chess you just got figure out where ever peace goes. there no right or wrong way as each trip is different but there are​ a few golden rules .. I think I do a new video to should my setup as it evolved over the years

[@gcn]

There's some rules to follow but it definitely a bit of trial and error

[@Bikepacking]

5 years of bikepacking setups I 've done ..what we think we know at the start after a lot of trails and errors still learning .. but I can pack everthing i need for 3 season trip ie 9 months only using Seatpost bag 4 stem bags 2 tube bags including 5 days food with any backpacks

[@honzohaberle6640]

You did not mention locks at all. I wouldn't dare to leave such expensive equipment unlocked while going into a restaurant, because in many places the bike would leave the place before me. How did you secure your bike? #askgcnanything

[@udoreb]

The sleeping bag will be humid in the morning. If you pack it like that it's gonna stay wet and start to stink soon. You have to dry it once a day.

[@NinjaElephant]

9:25 „... doing a Tom Dumoulin“ that poor guy will never get rid of that.

[@scifijunky1979]

I would never go bike packing without a tent.

[@Kevin_geekgineering]

don't sweat much, just put on a pannier on a bit up bike and go about it

[@graemewoodward]

Thanks - looks like great advice. Any experience using a rack system like the Thule/Freeload on a road frame, compared to the large seat bag?

[@poe5418]

This vid makes me want to use panniers

[@richardgaston9979]

out of interest, is there a reason panniers aren't used?

[@gcn]

Panniers can be a great option, but they tend to be heavier and not everyone has a bike that works with panniers, but if you can then by all means use them!

[@richardgaston9979]

@@gcn excellent - thank you :)

[@shenava]

Aero schoolboy error - inside of mug facing into the wind creating a wind scoop. Watt a diference it makes ;)

[@GrahamAtDesk]

shenava If you put it the other way round you end up with shit in yer mug. Josh has clearly been there...

[@gcn]

😮

[@ahabsbane]

"Watt a difference" I see what you did there, pun point awarded!

[@geryon]

Wouldn't placing your toilet paper roll wrong be more of a number 2 lesson?

[@gcn]

😵

[@GreenRC24]

LOL

[@alexythemechanic8056]

Exactly what you need for bikepacking: an aero bike with carbon hoops.

[@utopia2112]

While that ain't my first choice of bike (but feel free to give me one ;-) it shows that many bikes can be used for touring -- you don't HAVE to have a Surly Long Haul Trucker to see the world. I would, however, suggest decent tire clearance (at least 38s and preferably wider) for touring, and sorry, as uncool as it might seem to some, FENDERS, unless you are doing real, technical trails where you'd lack proper clearance because of using yet WIDER and more knobby tires. Getting debris jammed between the two or packing up with sticky "peanut butter mud" can put a real damper on your day, as a four-letter-word-emitting friend found out when clearance on her bike was too tight for the clay we rode through. Not being covered in a bunch of mud at the end of a day when there are no showers and you have to crawl inside your sleeping bag is worth all the judgement from fenderless, grit-covered cool-guys/gals and weight-weenies.

[@markovich88]

haha

[@KandiKlover]

Lawrencium not real touring. Fad packing.

[@MrSpeakerCone]

I'm an experienced outdoorsman and I have to say you're running a pretty spartan setup here. One thing you should consider is your morale; Make sure you're equipped to have a nice time not just on the bike but off it as well. For example, I like to bring a book, a card game if traveling with others, some extra tasty food, some flip flops so I can give my feet a rest at the end of the day, a flask of whisky, that sort of thing. I'd also recommend skipping the expensive titanium spork and going for a plastic spoon and chopsticks. Maybe a small plastic bowl too; I've burned myself many times trying to eat out of a cooking dish. Spend the extra 9g, honestly

[@sh4p31y]

Global bikepacking network?

[@leqin]

Yes please

[@nicojar]

OH YES.

[@DarrylCollins]

Yes!

[@ClintonC1991]

I'm hoping this becomes a thing

[@MrXcatalinX]

Yeaaah

[@NinjaElephant]

9:25 „... doing a Tom Dumoulin“ that poor guy will never get rid of that.

[@gkazanjian5976]

love it that the expression is part of the lingo now.

[@sudduthjonathan]

I think we’ve now reached the point where we can just abbreviate it. “Hold up, I gotta pull off for a quick TD”. 😁

[@MidtownSkyport]

Josh is a natural in front of the camera. More from him, please :)

[@Niskiss]

"I'm not cool." he needs to calm down though...

[@utopia2112]

@@Niskiss it was all the coffee ;-)

[@JapaneseReds]

MidtownSkyport Yeah, that coffee gag was dead natural 🤣

[@TheKimjoh560]

I tried a bunch of different setups on a bunch if different bikes. I wouldnt concider myself experienced by any stretch but I would never go without a hydration bladder. Water is just just too important in order to have a good time both on and off the bike. If you dont finnish the entire bladder you will have some warm water to clean yourself with as you change your clothes I would ditch the bottle cages and bottles on these bikes, aswell as the front bag and let the hydration bladders pack and one of those large triangular framebags pick up the slack I would not want to sleep on the ground after lots of hours in the saddle. Treat yourself to a hammock a decent one is only a couple of hundred grams. Never underestimate the value of a good nights sleep if you are riding the next morning. Oh and bring a lightweight multitool with pliers and a a knife or scissors. Paired with your bike specific tools you can improvise a fix for most thingsusing that.

[@utopia2112]

Assuming there are trees where you are camping (for your hammock).

[@kieranrae]

ha, what's with the toptube bag hate? it's my favourite bag on my bike

[@flpirate45]

Small front and rear Panniers are my choice. Thanks guys for the video,I just don't like the seat post method.

[@gcn]

That's cool - you can certainly fit a bit more in panniers!

[@vannicrider7953]

@@gcn but nowhere near as trendy and en vogue. I will stick with them though. No weight distribution or access to kit issues.

[@abalem]

Hey guys, don't quite understand the "bike packing" frenzy here... Tis as been on for ages ! Why not just mount a rear rack when you go on a trip and rear bags on each side, so that you have more room for stuff and save money compared to your setting here... I'd really like to get your thoughts on this.

[@chicofoxo]

My thoughts exactly, until I searched for a rack for a carbon frame. My only options for rear racks are (1) a "beam rack" that don't have good side guards to stop your panniers from bashing into your rear wheel; (2) an over-designed expensive carbon frame rack, that doesn't fit other panniers bags. How hard is it for frame builders to add some rack eyelets to a carbon frame?

[@abalem]

@@chicofoxo It makes sense. And now that I've been driving around in the country side, I saw that people with panniers tend to fill them up, bloating there bags and going slowly whereas bikepacking is more about minimalism I guess, allowing you to go just about anywhere, as you would do without, but with a decent amount of stuff to sleep in the wild for instance...

[@brotherfranciz]

Wow, some really useful information here! 👍 I've been thinking about bike packing lately, due to Covid-19 restricting overseas holidays. I think bike packing would be a perfect local holiday and probably a covid-safe way of exploring the local region (Victoria, Australia in my case).

[@gkazanjian5976]

I run a very identical bikepacking setup with few minor differences: 1. a small tent goes into the frame bag, in addition to tools and spare tubes. 2. Contrary to Josh, I prefer as little weight as possible up front (better handling), so I pack all my clothes into the seat post bag with the exception of sleeping bag and mat that go onto the handlebars. 3. I ride a small sized frame, so often I do not have space within the frame for 2 water bottles. Instead you can duck tape (or zip tie) old-style water bottle cages (like the ones on Si's bike) on the fork blades.

[@tomekkruk6147]

What about my drug paraphernalia, where do i stuck those?

[@Wollenschrank]

Great vid, usefull informations. Thank you and greetings from Magdeburg/Germany. God bless you.

[@wintermelon5494]

Bruh just put a rear rack and trunk bag. This is a waste of time

[@Fixajo]

7:09 "Am I allowed to stick that in there as well?" "You can fit it wherever you want" HAAAAH!!

[@PFULMTL]

It's easier to bikepack with a kickstand. Depending on how much water and gear you are carrying, your bike can be close to 40-50 lbs. It will save you energy having to lift your bike up off the floor so many times.

[@mykytajex2248]

Josh organised his bags for a rear spoiler effect. That way he can descend at higher speeds and make car noises while he rides.

[@abota]

How is your pot attached to the seat bag? Looks like some type of strap. Is it commercially available? I’ve always found the pot difficult to pack on the bike.

[@chadcrummelperc]

I was wondering same thing? anyone?

[@fogoverparis]

Putting your TP in an accessible spot? Wouldn't that be more like the "number 2" lesson you learn?

[@gcn]

💩

[@JamesAnderson123]

The quality of GCN content these days is phenomenal. Josh is a natural. Really great work all. Thank you.

[@gcn]

James Anderson Thanks James, always great to hear such amazing feedback!

[@rohan-ghosh]

I just brought my first real bike and I find biking SO ADDICTIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@maxholland5441]

what shorts are you guys wearing?

[@adriant.7457]

Would you go for a 6 or a 8L handlebar bag? :D Cheers.

[@phxrsx]

Its pretty amazing you guys can produce so much content from just a simple machine.

[@user-uw3fi2zg4t]

shity and complicated set up, judt get a propper saddlebag for the rear and downhill like crazy

[@gowikuscommunityproduction4605]

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