Glory (1989) | First Time Watching | Movie Reaction

[@MovieJoob]

UPDATE: APOLOGIES IN REGARDS TO MY MISUNDERSTANDING WITH THE FLOGGING SCENE, I WAS UNAWARE THAT IT WAS A REGULAR PUNISHMENT FOR DESERTER SOLDIERS! THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING IN THE COMMENTS. FULL AND LONGER REACTION: www.patreon.com/MovieJoob Jade is here to watch Remember Glory ⚔️ P.S. There can be many KZbin issues so we apologise if there are any scenes cut that are important! Join along in watching Jades reaction to this movie and as always leave a like, subscribe and click the notification bell to keep up with all our content!

[@stevealford230]

I came to the comments explicitly to point that out... and now I have nothing of value to add. :D

[@stevealford230]

@@lansorbet5882 cousin. I was named after him.

[@AstroXeno]

Several months ago I commented on someone's Glory reaction that flogging was a common form of military discipline well into the 19th Century, only to have someone correct me by telling me that the US Army had abolished the practice just prior to the Civil War. I haven't verified whether this person was right or not, but if he was, then the flogging scene could be considered a historical inaccuracy.

[@stevealford230]

@@AstroXeno It was almost certainly completely fictional, because it's exactly the kind of poetic injustice scene that Hollywood writers make up and insert into every "true story." They love filling "historical stories" with fake garbage, and they justify it by pointing out how clever, poignant, and emotionally-moving it was... "see, he had been whipped his whole life because he was a slave, so we'll have the irony of having him be whipped by the people trying to end slavery, and then reveal that it was unjust because he wasn't actually deserting, he was just trying to get desperately-needed shoes, and because he did it, the whole unit finally got the new shoes and socks they deserved." I will bet ten thousand dollars right now that it never happened and that the writers made that part up completely. And even if it was supposedly abandoned as practice just before the Civil War, that doesn't mean that it wasn't still done by commanders whose discretion told them that it was the best and most effective punishment short of execution. When I was in the Army, plenty of units did things that were technically not allowed anymore... people who I met who had trained at Jackson and Leonard Wood were shocked to hear what we did at Benning, saying "thy can't do that... it's illegal now, the Army banned that," naively believing that regulations dictate reality at a 1:1 rate everywhere and in all circumstances.

[@gatroy13]

With any movie that has a historical reference, many react to what is on the screen without actually knowing all the details behind the scene. Especially what is factual versus opinionated. The Civil War is one of the most debated topics in the US. It is also the one used the most in today's culture to push divide among Americans instead of unity. If you ever do research it, make sure to use different sources for reference to draw your own opinions. Thank you for the excellent reaction. No apologies are necessary. 🥰

[@haraldisdead]

RIP Andre Braugher. "I'll see you in the fort, Thomas."

[@CherylHughes-ts9jz]

Did you see him in Primal Fear? It's definitely worth seeing if you haven't yet. Great movie with Richard Gere ☮️If you decide to watch it I'd love to hear what you think of it 😊👍

[@stevelobban2766]

Flogging was a common punishment for all soldiers at that time. Death was the most common punishment for desertion. Shaw was trying to show that they were like any other soldiers and would receive the same punishments. Hope that helps.

[@Hapsard]

Yeah, that is something a lot of tractors don't get, but is kind of important at that point in Shaws story. So many people are thinking negros, free or slave as lesser, but I don't think Shaw ever did.

[@walterblackledge1137]

@@Hapsard If this film has one flaw, its they didn't let the audience know that flogging was standard for all soldiers / sailors during this time period.

[@clayschuetz899]

Yes flogging was common for desertion , no matter what race or creed you were , it's sad especially in this situation, but I get it, I don't know , I've always been conflicted by that moment in the film, regardless it was such an emotionally charged and beautifully shot scene, hard to watch but a favorite none the less

[@ericlewisauthor]

However, flogging had been abolished a couple years before this, so it wouldn't have happened at the time. But the movie left it for dramatic effect.

[@mikealvarez2322]

​@@ericlewisauthor I'd rather call it BS effects. Read my other comments.

[@Video_Crow]

The confederates buried Colonel Shaw in a mass grave with his soldiers, intending it as an insult. But Shaw's family believed it was an honor for him. His father said: "We would not have his body removed from where it lies surrounded by his brave and devoted soldiers. ... We can imagine no holier place than that in which he lies, among his brave and devoted followers, nor wish for him better company. - what a body-guard he has!"

[@MovieJoob]

That’s honestly kind of badass of his father! I’m glad they saw how honourable him being surrounded by his fellow soldiers was!

[@MovieJoob]

Still heartbreaking that all their lives came to such an abrupt, and for many, a young end! 😢

[@jeffstark8449]

Greatly reactions jade. I'm glad you watched this one, it's really good

[@Aurelius556]

@@jeffstark8449 She confused the American Revolutionary War of 1775 with the Civil War of 1861 in this.

[@hibbidyjibbidyy]

i was a piece of shit as a teenager, im nearing 50, i have always had my parents love, i wanted thier respect. it was a difficult road, but i finally got there. sent a pic to my mom of me at work, dad sent it to all my uncles. i know him well. he is proud of me.

[@Shelbyj13]

Never apologize for showing your emotions. This movie is very powerful.

[@aramire7]

Robert saw the men as his equal. That's why he ordered the flogging, which was standard punishment for any soldier cought deserting. A soldier is a soldier, whether white or black, Hispanic, or whatever race. As unfortunately as being a slave was , once being in an institution like the military, one must treat all the same, and not make exceptions because of your past experience, race, religion or creed. All must be rewarded and punished the same. This may seem heartless and cold and emotionless, but necessary to train soldiers.

[@jeh58]

Correct, if he was white he would have received the same punishment.

[@MovieJoob]

Oh I’d never heard of flogging being a normal punishment for soldiers before! I guess for the time it was normal!

[@MovieJoob]

My bad I didn’t know it was done to any soldier considered a deserter!

[@russellward4624]

​@MovieJoob leaving without permission was viewed as desertion. Shaw was the Coloniel. It's his job to be separate from the men to avoid favoritism or even the view of favoritism. He needs to make life and death decisions and if you get too close to the men it makes it harder. Also if the soldiers under his command would see him showing favoritism it would hurt the moral. Imagine he needed to send a group into a situation they wouldnt be expected to live through and he didn't send Thomas. Some of the soldiers may see him valuing his life above thiers and protecting him. Theyd be less motivated, fight poorer, sow malcontent or even insurrection.

[@johnstrickler2238]

This is not correct. The standard punishment for deserting was death. The whipping was lenient. For clarity, I'm speaking of the flogging being standard punishment for desertion.

[@robertlynch7013]

The last shot of the film is the memorial across from the Massachusetts state house. I have been many times. It's a magnificent tribute to Shaw and all these men.

[@MovieJoob]

That is so beautiful!! I’ve never been to Massachusetts but if I ever do I’d like to see it in person!!

[@aubreyj1957]

And that memorial was defaced by ignorant rioters in the BLM riots. 18:48 18:50 18:52

[@BlueDebut]

The reason why Shaw trained Sharpe using a revolver going off in the air behind him is the fact that in battle you're going to hear gunshots going off to your left right center in front of you behind you and you're going to be seeing men die all around you so having the ability to go back to that training is very valuable. One thing that happened pretty often during the war was that people would just freeze up in terror and just repeat the rifle drill to cope with the fear. Interestingly in order to go keep it safe the usual drill would leave out the step that allowed you to actually shoot the rifle and they were cases of shell-shocked soldiers who had loaded seven or eight rounds into their rifle in pure terror and because they never added on the percussion cap that would allow the rifle to shoot you would just have eight bullets lodged in there. It's interesting what happens in combat cuz at the end of the day training will take over.

[@MovieJoob]

Oh absolutely it would be way more intense even than what Shaw did but it was very sudden and not expected for the soldiers! But it’s definitely an important thing to be prepared for!!

[@MovieJoob]

It’s crazy how back then none of them had any ear protection so they would have had a lot of long term damage (had they survived long term)

[@stevealford230]

@@MovieJoob You'd think so, but not really... I grew up hunting with modern rifles and with muzzleloaders, and I was in the Army as an adult... and although old guns aren't exactly *quiet*, they are a lower volume than modern firearms, because modern ones are stronger and can handle higher pressures with much more powder and more force. You only start to *need* ear protection when you start to be surrounded by mortars and tanks and maybe high caliber modern rifles and Squad Automatic Weapons... but your ears are pretty safe being surrounded by muskets or even modern M-16 rifles (which are actually small caliber, despite false propaganda claiming they put fist-sized holes in people). Even after spending countless days with thousands of M-16 rounds being fired all around me each day on average, there's no long-term hearing damage. And that's after spending my entire childhood and adolescence with at least hundreds of thousands of rounds of varying calibers being fired by myself, my dad, and my brother, without hearing protection except for maybe a dozen times when shooting the very loudest guns we had.

[@tehawfulestface1337]

When the movie ended I went to the washroom and hid in a stall. I cried my heart out, sobbing like a child. The scene where Shaw was on the beach, trying to prepare himself for what he had to do, letting his horse go…I cry everytime. I was crying with you.

[@MovieJoob]

It was so incredibly sad!! It ended so hopelessly yet that is the true story! 💔

[@MovieJoob]

So upsetting but so well done!!

[@TD-mg6cd]

The reference to the Irish animosity toward blacks, likely refers to the situation in the north. When the Irish came to America, they were treated even worse than the slaves, according to Sowell. In the north, they had to compete with freed blacks and runaways for the most menial employment. Hence the animosity for their competition to feed their families.

[@TheFioda]

the flogging part. as hurtful as it was...was not because he was a black man, but because he deserted. ANY soldier would have received the same punishment. Different times.

[@MovieJoob]

I had no idea that white soldiers got flogged too for desertion! So wild!

[@MovieJoob]

Very different times indeed!

[@k1productions87]

@@MovieJoob You see something along those lines in the Sci-fi movie "Starship Troopers" as well. Obviously being a fiction makes it not exactly the same, but visually expresses the same thing.

[@nutterbuttergutter]

Shaw when he was walking among the black soldiers’ tents was basically saying how he _wanted_ to truly understand his men but he knew he couldn’t because the fraternization rules and etiquette in the army. Officers(in this case Shaw) and their enlisted men(the black soldiers here) could not fraternize meaning they couldn’t just hang out and act all buddy buddy because the army understands that at the end of the day the officers need to be respected as officers not friends.

[@MovieJoob]

Ohh was it an actual rule that he couldn’t speak with them! That is so fascinating! Has that changed/lessened over time as in modern times I feel like that’s no longer the case!

[@MovieJoob]

I understand the need for strict hierarchy especially amongst soldiers but I thought simply talking to them wouldn’t interfere with that hierarchy!

[@BlueDebut]

@@MovieJoob oh no it's stayed that way a lot in the modern military. Having hung around veterans myself for most of my life there's a definite feeling of otherness among The enlisted men (basically anyone who had the rank of private), the non-commissioned officers which are still enlisted men but who lead the squads and help oversee the platoons. (Basically anyone with the rank of corporal, sergeant, first sergeant and so on) And between the officers (lieutenant, Captain, major etc.) The reason it exists is to establish a clear hierarchy and chain of command because you can't have the guy making the decision to possibly send you off to your death hold himself back or hesitate if he knows he's sending his friends out there to die. There's a lot of jokes between and listed men and officers as well. Little funny jabs like NCOs will get mad if you call them an officer by mistake because unlike them they actually work for a living, stuff like that. It's an entire subculture of America that not a lot of people look into. It's the same in any other military as well. I know a lot of the British, Australian and Canadian military subcultures relate more to the American military subculture then they do their own respective cultures in their own country.

[@BlueDebut]

@@MovieJoob also, I wasn't that they couldn't speak to them It's just that they couldn't be seen being too friendly with them. They had to keep that distance. It's similar to how a lot of bosses distance themselves from their employees. They have to maintain that sense of respect and if they are too involved they can find it very difficult to make that tough decision to fire the person. Might not be the best example because I do know a lot of businesses that work out better if the boss is more involved with his employees but especially in the military where you have to make the tough decision to send in your men to die You don't want to hesitate if the entire victory is dependent on that split second choice.

[@christiner5265]

@@MovieJoob I was in the Navy and yes, fraternization is still against the rules and the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ). It doesn't mean that officers can't have pleasant interactions with their soldiers, but there is a strict delineation in the hierarchy, which is important in training people to respect rank and obey orders. It also helps to prevent prohibited interpersonal relationships and favoritism, and allows officers to make tough decisions as needed for accomplishing missions. Bear in mind that war and basic training (boot camp) are situations where leniency could be dangerous. Since I've never been to war, I can only speak about boot camp, where leaders are supposed to test your resolve and keep their distance so that men and women can learn to bond and overcome hardship as a team. In more relaxed circumstances, you may get more relaxed interactions, but officers are always in charge and separated to a degree. For Shaw, the movie is largely conveying his lack of first-hand knowledge about black culture and experiences, rather than any personal ego. He's a very good officer.

[@johnstrickler2238]

"You're just proving to everyone that you see them as less than human." This is 100% incorrect. A whipping was an extremely lenient punishment for desertion. The standard punishment for everyone was death, universally. It didn't matter white or black, American or any other country. Desertion carried a death penalty. The fact the individual was whipped meant that the Colonel was being lenient and kind.

[@glenngalloway6191]

Historically, most amputations in the US Civil War were done under anesthesia. And, as brutal as it seems in our modern age, amputating a wounded limb doubled a soldier's chance of survival.

[@shawnmiller4781]

Yes, the civil war occurred right at the intersection where anesthesia was just becoming available (Ether and chloroform) but before the germ theory of disease so antibiotics weren’t around so a lot of operations where done that should have due to infection

[@Ladco77]

16:45 "You're just proving to everyone that you see them as less than human." That is only true IF the punishment being given is not the same punishment a white person would be given for the same offense. Shaw was trying very hard to show NO favoritism or undue harshness and to treat them the same as any recruits.

[@MovieJoob]

My bad I didn’t know that white soldiers would get the same punishment for desertion! My apologies for the misunderstanding!!

[@MovieJoob]

Thank you so much for clarifying this!!

[@KennethSavage-nn2vv]

I taught US history for 15 years in Massachusetts, USA, when we got to the civil war in our time line, we would study the 54th and I would use excerpts from this film as teaching tools. Thanks for the heartfelt reaction and response. Ken 👊🏻

[@MovieJoob]

Oh wow that is so cool!! The 54th is such an incredible story to learn from!!

[@MovieJoob]

Thank you for joining me Ken!! 🙌

[@KennethSavage-nn2vv]

@@MovieJoob my pleasure I enjoy your content, I really liked your Rocky journey. Keep going

[@bryanhenchik6580]

Great review! Glory and Gettysburg are probably the two best civil war combat movies out there, so I am glad that you got a chance to see one. As a historian, I did want to help you clear up a little bit about Robert Shaw, as he was an excellent officer. Because the time period is 160 years ago a lot of people who have seen the show recently have a misunderstanding of Shaw during the training phase of the movie. The flogging of Tripp was actually at that time a more generous punishment. He could have been shot or a lesser punishment was banded with a hot iron "C" on his face to show he was a coward. This punishment was for any soldier that left without leave. Indeed, the number of white soldiers that were flogged dwarfed the black troops as there were 10 times as many white troops. But the big item was Shaw did not look down on his soldiers. Indeed, all of his doubts were of how he would perform commanding the troops. He thought very highly of the soldiers. But, since he was a commanding officer he couldn't really be at easy or fraternize with the troops. He might have to order them to their death in order to protect a military mission. So all officers are supposed to have a more formal relationship with soldiers under their command. He was actually treated very well and Major Forbes was violating this attitude more often in the movie. I have seen a lot of people who have recently seen the movie and misunderstood this as he was looking down on the troops. It was rather the opposite. Looking forward to more!!

[@helifanodobezanozi7689]

While I fully agree with your analysis of the flogging scene, I gotta say, Gettysburg was "Lost Cause" fanboy porn! They left out the part where the Confederates enslaved the free black civilians living near Gettysburg.

[@mayalackman7581]

​@helifanodobezanozi7689 I disagree about Getting being "lost cause fanboy porn." Gods and Generals definitely was but Gettysburg takes a pretty neutral stance. Now, Gettysburg does present both sides as morally equal. That isn't true, but it's also not lost Cause. Lost Cause would paint the Union as villians which Gettysburg does not. I have many problems with the movie Gettysburg, but supporting the Lost Cause isn't one of them.

[@BlueDebut]

11:24 In regards to the history of Irish people in the United States which Sergeant mulcahy was an Irish American immigrant they had to compete for the low tier jobs. A lot of people saw the Irish and Italians as barely above black people in the social hierarchy so there was a lot of competition and resentment between those communities. Especially in the Union where they saw service as a way to prove their loyalty and hire their standing they fought quite well in some Irish regimens like the 69th New York and the 28th Massachusetts became known as veteran troops. In fact there was an entire Brigade of about 3,000 men that were almost entirely Irish American immigrants or at least second generation Irish Americans.

[@johannesvalterdivizzini1523]

In the 1860's, there had yet been no major immigration of Italians, and most Italian immigrants at the time were skilled craftsmen as stone masons and woodcarvers (for example) As such, they were not unwelcome and not really in competition for the lowest paying jobs. The massive influx of poor, uneducated Italians would come decades later.

[@MovieJoob]

Oh wow this is so interesting!! Thank you so much for the context and information!!

[@MovieJoob]

As Australia was colonised by the UK, Irish people have had a fairly different history here than the USA!

[@Perfectly_Cromulent351]

@@MovieJoobthe US was colonized by the UK as well. Also, Irish immigrants faced the same, if not harsher mistreatment in Australia than they did in the US. Until about the 1960s, Catholic Irish Australians were often barred from employment and were seen as traitors to the British crown due to their desire for Independence. In 1867, Prince Albert made the first royal visit to Australia and during his stay, the Irish Fenians (basically 1800s version of the IRA) were responsible for multiple bombings as well as several assassination attempts. They actually succeeded in wounding him at the end of his visit, but Prince Albert did survive. Of course, British Australians retaliated on Irish Australians in retribution.

[@oriole21bird]

This is the best film ever made about the American Civil War. It's an emotional and action packed powerhouse and the musical score is top notch. Thank you for reacting to it.

[@token1371]

Gettysburg is my favorite Civil War movie. Imo, what reduces Glory a half star is the narrative spoken from Shaw's perspective as a privileged man.

[@oriole21bird]

@@token1371 I love Gettysburg. It's a fantastic movie. I respect your opinion on Glory. In my opinion, I thought Matthew Broadrick was great in Glory because he had a solid story arc. He was a privileged man that grew as a leader and as a man.

[@MovieJoob]

It was brilliantly done I’m so glad I watched it!!

[@MovieJoob]

Thank you for joining me on this journey!!

[@k1productions87]

@@token1371 Gettysburg drops the traditional narrative structure in favor of primarily telling just the historical events. Which is totally fair, of course. It just makes the film a little less accessible to general audiences. You need definable narrative structure with specific characters involved. Not saying Gettysburg didn't have any, mind you, just that its something many historical movies miss (like Tora, Tora, Tora) and others overcompensate for (like The Patriot). Glory may work better as a "movie", but Gettysburg also fills in some important blanks from the historical context. For my money, neither is better or worse than the other.

[@markpekrul4393]

Flogging/whipping was pretty much still a standard punishment in the American (and most) armies in the mid-19th century, particularly for desertion. It is rendered here more alarming because of the parallels with him having been a slave, but he was, in fact, being treated equally if brutally. Goof alert - when the troops arrive in South Carolina and are marching along the road and come across the kids, one waves as they pass along, his sleeve falls down and you see he's wearing a digital watch. In that same scene if you squint, you can see a line of tourists in the background.

[@MichaelCallaghan-qz4vt]

Fun fact, the man trip is based off actually survived his wounds and was one of the first colored man to give the the medal honor when he's was in his late 60's i believe

[@MovieJoob]

Omg that’s incredible I’m so glad he survived!!

[@MovieJoob]

And got a medal of honour that is so beautiful!!

[@eXcommunicate1979]

I think Morgan Freeman's character is a stand-in for that historical person.

[@MichaelCallaghan-qz4vt]

@@eXcommunicate1979 that could be true but since Tripp is the one who did the whole flag charge like the real life man I would attribute the likeness to him but maybe I'm mixing up the story its been awhile since I did research on it

[@antoinewatts9923]

Morgan Freeman's character Rawlins was loosely based on Medal of Honor recipient Sgt William H. Carney.

[@chetcarman3530]

Thank you for a beautiful reaction to one of my favorite movies ever! ❤❤❤❤

[@MovieJoob]

Thank you so much for joining me!!

[@MovieJoob]

I’m so glad you enjoyed ❤❤

[@spacemanspiff3052]

“Glory” is an amazingly good movie. My goodness the excellent cast and performances. It also serves as a reminder of the lingering inequalities that stubbornly persist in my country, and the cost brave men and women of character pay over the years to finally accomplish the more perfect Union where all people are seen as being created equal. Great reaction. Wishing you all be best, my cousin from Down Under. Stay awesome!!!

[@Jiibay7796]

Denzel Washington is as good as it gets. My absolute favorite Actor.

[@MovieJoob]

He is magnetic you just can’t take your eyes off him when he’s in a scene!!

[@MovieJoob]

Incredibly talented!!

[@ronmaximilian6953]

I remember watching this movie in the movie theater and thinking that I would see a lot of Denzel Washington in the future. He won an Oscar and Golden globe award for best supporting actor. Lee movie also won an Oscar for Best cinematography and multiple other awards.

[@loganrideout9151]

Man you're not kidding. I view him as one of the best actors of our day.

[@aresee8208]

"Did Americans like British people at this point?" This might not answer your question exactly, but - when Ambraham Lincoln was assassinated, he had been watching a touring production of "Our American Cousin," a British play about a boorish American who goes to England to claim his inheritance. The tour starred famous British actress Laura Keene. Apparently, Keene got some of Lincoln's blood on her dress when she held his head in her lap.

[@Robertz1986]

Of course, during the Civil War, both Britain and France were on bad terms with America. The British sent forces to Canada and weapons to arm their militias, and Lincoln said "One war at a time" and gave into a British demand. After the war, the US threatened to invade Canada if Britain didn't pay reparations, which they did. The US then for a time turned a blind eye to Irish fenians invading Canada drom the US side of the border. The US also sent the army to the border of Mexico and demanded French occupation forces see themselves out, which they did.

[@aresee8208]

@@Robertz1986 Yeah, but that's all big picture national political stuff. I just suspect Americans had no particular animosity to British people back then. I also suspect Americans in general have no animosity towards Russians these days either. But I have sources for any of that.

[@KingJames1981]

Wow. I've seen this movie, but when you reacted to Thomas getting killed, it moved me, I can tell he was one of your favorites.

[@jeffsherk7056]

On KZbin, you can hear some audio recordings made in the 1920s and 1930s of surviving former slaves who spoke briefly about their lives. One woman I listened to yesterday said that all her children were taken away from her when they were around two years of age.

[@MovieJoob]

Oh dear, I’m going to go down this rabbit hole in my own time and utterly cry myself to sleep I just know it!!

[@BlueDebut]

The opening battle they show is the Battle of Antietam which took place near Sharpsburg Maryland in September of 1862. To this day is still the bloodiest day in American history. Long story short The South sent an army to the north of Washington DC to try to draw out the union army and they attacked the Southern Army when they had split their forces. The reason why it's called the battle of Antietam for the Union is that they cross the Antietam Creek. 90,000 Union troops faced off against 60,000 Confederates and the Union gradually push them back throughout the day at places like the dunker Church, bloody Lane and the Miller cornfield. Having walked those areas myself at surreal to see a wide open field and think that hundreds of men died here and this small field alone and look over at the next field and say the exact same thing. The only reason the battle wasn't an overwhelming union victory was because the general of the Union Army George B McClellan was to overly cautious and didn't pursue The Confederate Army under Robert E Lee. Another thing that saved the Confederate army that day was general AP Hill's light division being forced marched to cover the retreat of the Confederate Army back across the river to the south. I like how they don't really show the entirety of the battle just to have that big moment where Shaw sees the devastation. About the 54th Massachusetts they were actually a part of the 10th Corps of the Union Army that invaded South Carolina during the war and having seen the places that they fought in like fort Wagner and the defenses of Charleston like fort Moultrie and fort Sumter in the bay You can tell just what they would have gone through during the attack. A lot of people even in the US are really unaware of certain theaters in the Civil War. The major conflict that happened was in between the states of Pennsylvania Maryland and Virginia where the main battles of the war occurred. They had the western theater out in Tennessee, Kentucky and Arkansas but not too many people know about the coastal battles that happened. Some people do know about the Battle of Vicksburg in Missouri but beyond that battle they don't know too much. I like how this movie accurately portrays the combat too. It doesn't shy away from showing just how devastating the rounds are. I think showing it entirely accurately would take a lot of time and money but they do a pretty decent job with showing the injuries in the legitimate reactions of people in battle.

[@markpekrul4393]

Nice description of Antietam - I live about 30-40 minutes away.

[@BlueDebut]

@@markpekrul4393 I had family on both sides of the battle. I live out in Arizona so civil war battlefields were an interest to me but when I saw Sharpsburg I fell in love. Rural Maryland and Virginia are really beautiful for me.

[@Bulbman123]

3:10 Actually it's very interesting that you pointed this out. One of the main reasons the Civil war was so deadly was because battle strategy didn't evolve fast enough with the weaponry, "line battles" were designed around the fact that muskets were so inaccurate at a distance. The rifles coming out at the time were much more accurate due to... rifling, so line volleys were much more effective/ deadly.

[@flyingmonkeydeathsquadronc968]

not entirely correct line battles were formed for command and control that's why officers traditionally only carried swords and non coms carried pole axes. Line battles typically consisted of one or two volleys and then a bayonet charge, the reason for the closing of the range was not so much for the accuracy of the smooth bore but rather the charge. with the notion of command and control still being regulated by runners, signal flags, and musical instruments operating a controlled force required the use of linier warfare arguably until the interwar period between the two world wars when mechanized warfare and radios made the infantry charge relatively obsolete.

[@BryanWhite77]

10:40 The decree was made by the Confederate Congress (whose soldiers these men would be fighting) not the US Congress. It was meant by the enemy as a direct threat to dissuade the black soldiers and white officers from participating in combat units.

[@MovieJoob]

But how did it get through, the president didn’t have to sign off on it? (Pardon my ignorance we only have a prime minister here and not a president so I don’t know where their power differs from congress/senate fully)

[@BryanWhite77]

@@MovieJoob. The congress that made this decree was the legislature of the Confederate States of America (C.S.A) or South, not the US Congress of the North. During the Civil War, the South (C.S.A.) had its own executive, legislative, and judicial branches. The CSA Congress was making its own laws for the Confederacy. That's why they would write laws against the black soldiers and the white officers that might lead them. The President of the Confederacy (Jefferson Davis) would have most likely signed off on the decree. I hope that makes it more clear.

[@airmobiledivision7759]

@@MovieJoobAs the person above said, the Confederate States of America was the group which seceded from the United States, thus causing the American Civil War. While slavery was a large factor in the South’s decision to secede, they were generally trying to preserve their own states’ rights and way of life which may have conflicted with those of the North and many of the nation’s most powerful politicians. Interestingly, as you mentioned the relationship of England and America during this time, the Confederates and English were quite friendly with one another. England even attempted to send many supplies and resources to them throughout the war. Though, much of that was stopped by a long-looming Union blockade of Southern ports. Many of the firearms, for example, used by the South in the war were purchased from England.

[@tonyvanhouten1960]

@@MovieJoob It was the CSA (i.e. "The South) that issued that decree. Lincoln announced it to the Union Army to let them know of the dangers they faced (execution). That's why Shaw tells his soldiers and his officer friend about and it and says he won't stand in the way if they opt out. Watch the scene again and it will make sense.

[@k1productions87]

Most have already said it well enough. During those few years, there were effectively two separate nations within the borders of the American States. The Union and the Confederacy. If it makes it easier to understand, think of the Union as Great Britain and the Confederacy as France. And so, what happens to French soldiers captured in British territory, conversely what happens to British soldiers captured in French territory?

[@johnchrysostomon6284]

One of my favourite war films ever. Based on a true story and the writings of Robert Gould Shaw - I have these in a collection "Blue-Eyed Child of Fortune"

[@jmsmys13ify]

If you wish to learn more about the Civil War, Lincoln, Lost Cause myth and Southern strategy, watch the "checkmate lincolnites" series. Humorous and informative, and pretty quick to get through.

[@MrKurtfinn]

Don’t waste your time, she just wants to watch tv and get paid. Love me in the comments too

[@layne6675]

This was a very very different time. It was quite turbulent, to say the least. I thinks it’s best to watch and listen. So much is misunderstood in modern day. Watching a film helps a fraction of a bit, but to truly understand you need to study. Do not compare to modern times. Thats a mistake many people make.

[@karlmoles6530]

You are so kind, Your words about equality were very moving. I wish more of my fellow Americans were like you.

[@dastemplar9681]

The vast majority of Irish-Americans at the time were those who fled from Ireland during the Great Famine. In 1863, the Irish communities in the north became a particular targeted demographic that was subject to drafts for the Union Army. New York City was a great example of this anger from the Irish, especially since their free-black neighbors were exempted from the draft and were actually faring better economically than the average Irish immigrant. In July 13, New York City erupted with the infamous Draft Riots which resulted with Irish mobs attacking homes and businesses of black Americans and abolitionists. The reason was because in order to get out of the draft, you’d have to pay a fine of $300. At the time, the average Irish working man was making no more than $1 a day and as I said before, black Americans in New York at the time were exempted from the draft and were economically more established.

[@ThistleAndSea]

One of my favorite movies. I think though you may have missed the point, MJ. The whipping was standard punishment. It had nothing to do with race. Shaw treated his men like soldiers. Discipline is everything in the military, and Shaw's expectations of his men was ultimately the reason they were prepared and capable as a fighting unit. He respected them as soldiers and he treated them as he would any soldier under his command, despite the beliefs of society at the time and those in political power. Pretty remarkable really for a man as young as he was. Thanks for sharing this one, MJ.

[@MrMetamorFitness]

I’ve read that one of the reasons the American Civil War was so brutal was that the advancement in bored Rifles and other weaponry moved passed standard warfare at the time. Napoleonnic style warfare was used to be sure orders were hard to hear on a battlefield so lining up close was effect to organize large battalions. And with smooth rifles inaccuracy he made since.

[@jokerswild7290]

Jade, I am the guy that pointed out to you that you missed Gimli when you were watching Indiana Jones. I would like to see you react to "The Never-Ending Story". I am sure that you will like this movie, and will always remember the Artax scene afterwards.

[@nutterbuttergutter]

@16:00 What are you talking about? Shaw has been treating his soldiers the same as any white soldier. *Don’t misconstrue harshness in training to ready your men for battle for harshness of racism.* Shaw had seen battle firsthand, these black soldiers hadn’t. He was strengthening them up so they wouldn’t seize up during a fight and get themselves killed. He was a great leader.

[@MovieJoob]

As I said at the beginning pls forgive me for anything I misunderstand I am but a simple Australian who was never taught about 1800s America in detail and thus I had no idea flogging was done to white soldiers too only what I knew about slavery and how it was done to enslaved people!!

[@periechontology]

Calm down OP

[@enidrobertson4858]

Slavery existed primarily in the southern states. The U.S. govt and president Lincoln wanted to abolish slavery in all states. So the South broke from the U.S. and formed the Confederacy and then fought against the abolitionist states of the Union/North. It's a little confusing in your edit but Shaw was reading to his men that the Confederate Congress, the govt of the rebel South, issued a proclamation that any black Union soldiers that it captured would be returned to slavery and their white officers executed.

[@MovieJoob]

Ohh I see so it was a rule within the southern states but not the Union states!?

[@MovieJoob]

That is still extremely scary as they were all fighting in the south and not in the union states oh gosh!

[@enidrobertson4858]

@@MovieJoob Right because the South had no black units in its army.

[@BlueDebut]

He wasn't necessarily a radical on the idea of abolition. If he could save the union without abolishing slavery he said he was willing to do that but considering just how in favor of slavery a lot of the administrations before Lincoln were I could see how he was seen as a radical. I know for a fact that William Seward was even more hardcore on abolition but he was more politically astute. That's why Lincoln is so interesting because he wasn't as radical but he wanted to make big changes at the proper time and could surprise people.

[@BlueDebut]

@@MovieJoob they're actually was some fighting in the northern states. The Southern Army went as far north as Gettysburg Pennsylvania which is actually a ways north of Washington DC. I believe the date was July 1863 when this happened and it was basically the battle that broke the Confederacy. Ever since then they were on the defensive and they never quite recovered from it.

[@John-ws2zr]

Never apologize for being a "blubbering mess." Your heartfelt reactions make you one of my favorite reactors, and i always know that you are genuine. Another movie that you might like, especially to learn more about this period, is LINCOLN (2012). It gives a very good "human" portrail of one of the greatest Presidents... who led the US during the Civil War.

[@MovieJoob]

Aww thank you so very much!! 🥹

[@MovieJoob]

and thank you for the suggestion!!

[@DerekSansone]

Agreed w/not apologizing. Either for being "blubbering mess" or not being an expert in the military, the US military of the 1800s or American history. At least you're trying to learn. So many believe themselves too evolved & enlightened to learn history. Why study WW2 if I know who won? Very limited mentalities. I gv u credit for getting out of your comfort zone. Don't take trolls personally. Yes, flogging was common. Being tough during training is necessary for any military. War is a hell tht can't be explained or imagined & there's no way to be fully prepared. Being easy on your troops will only cripple them & ensure defeat. In order to learn history tho, we must objectify it. Every time has unique Social, Political & Economic challenges / realities that people navigate as best they can. There's injustice & poor decisions & poor policy in the past & today. But, the past (good & the bad) gave us the world we hv today. No reason to erase or whitewash history. Gotta face it (the good & the bad).

[@lingrensteve]

Great reaction! You are very empathetic which is awesome to see. 😢❤

[@smigoltime]

16:45 no, he's literally showing them that each soldier, no matter white or black, is treated equally for their faults, especially desertion. If he didn't commence with the whipping, desertion would've gone unpunished. And stop crying finally 😅

[@johannesvalterdivizzini1523]

Moreover, the other penalty Massachusetts troops would have faced for desertion aside from flogging was execution.

[@MovieJoob]

I had never heard of that punishment for white soldiers that is so interesting!

[@MovieJoob]

As I said at the beginning I am Australian so please excuse any misunderstandings I didn’t get taught what you all did growing up in the US

[@MovieJoob]

And also no I will never stop crying 🫶

[@smigoltime]

@@MovieJoob I mean I'm polish so pretty far from the US as well 😄

[@davidmichaelson1092]

The sergeant-major who trained them would have been an Irish immigrant. Britain itself was leaning towards supporting the Confederacy, but abolitionist sentiment in Britain prevented them from doing so. Others have pointed out that flogging was a common punishment at the time in armies around the world (including the British navy) but was being phased out. That does not change the power of the scene. OR the fact that Denzel's character would have no idea that it was common and would have felt just like he was back in slavery. Powerful movie and fairly accurate. There is a flogging scene in Master and Commander about the British navy during the Napoleonic wars. It is another movie you should see if you have not. VERY underrated. Another movie where you can see the unfair treatment of blacks (particularly black women) in the US is Hidden Figures, based in the 1960s. EXCELLENT movie.

[@cavtiger]

To quote Wardaddy (Brad Pitt) "Ideals are peaceful, history is violent."

[@haraldisdead]

"And not just America, either." THANK YOU, EURO.

[@vincemac2223]

A flogging is a much lesser penalty than death which they could have ordered. It looks rough and is but it has nothing to do with skin color. it was Military Justice. A white soldier would also have been flogged for desertion, put to death if at war. It was just the laws back then.

[@ClutchSituation]

The end credits shows the 54th Massachusetts Memorial located in Boston. I was shown this film in middle school. It is a testament to the trust our teachers had in us to view something horrible and the importance of uncensored history.

[@danielallen3454]

While Wagner was never taken, it was abandoned. The assaults combined with bombardment by sea (and eventual siege) made holding and resupplying the fort untenable. The Confederates abandoned the fort on the night of September 6-7, 1863. Less than two months after the 54th's attack.

[@MovieJoob]

Oh wow that is so interesting that is very soon after the battle!! Thank you for the added information!!

[@toochangz]

Amazing performances by everyone, the music is amazing. Kevin Jarre wrote this and Tombstone, he is the "Give Em Jell 54th" guy

[@Jordanmode]

Thomas had to be steadied by Trip prior to the advancement on Fort Henry. He was bleeding out. He insisted on being at the front line even though he’d been shot just a couple days prior. He knew he was going to die.

[@stonecoldku4161]

This is an amazing film and I believe it should be mandatory viewing for everyone. It is also one of the more historically accurate movies based on actual events that Hollywood has produced. There are some inaccuracies as with most movies, but most are done for the narrative of the movie. Here are a few that I'm aware of: 1) I've noticed a few others have said this but while flogging was a punishment in the US military for a time the practice was banned in 1861 a year before the 54th had formed, so that wouldn't have happened. If Shaw had ordered that he would've been at the very least dishonorably discharged from the army. 2) The 54th wasn't denied provisions like shoes and socks like depicted in the movie. The governor of Massachusetts was a major reason that the 54th was even created, and so he would've made sure that they got everything that they could possibly need. 3) Shaw was the one who convinced his men to boycott the payroll when he found out they were going to be under paid. (Side note: When they and other black soldiers were eventually given equal pay the government also paid them the money owed from when they weren't being paid equally. So, for example if you were in the army 12 months getting paid $10 instead of the $13 you would've been owed $36 dollars for the year. They paid them the money owed.) 4) This is omitted but William Harvey Carney became the first black soldier to be a Medal of Honor winner for his actions during the attack on Ft. Wagner. The Medal of Honor is the highest award a US soldier can receive. 5) Around 75% of the regiment were free black men from the north and only around 25% were former slaves. 6) Shaw actually took several days before he accepted the command of the 54th and had serious doubts about accepting the promotion.

[@TD-mg6cd]

In 1863, $13 would be like $300 today. $10 would be like $240.

[@tommarks3726]

That final battle scene was intense. The music just adds to the drama. Col. Shaw was not a racist, he wanted to succeed with his colored troops. He was tough on Thomas because there is a chain of command.

[@davidtoupal1015]

I enjoyed watching your reaction video

[@OhioCardVault]

Denzel's acting in this movie was absolutely wonderful. A lot of what is depicted in the movie is very accurate of the time. Charges of desertion were usually punished by either flogging, branding, or death by firing squad. There was no such thing as a dishonorable discharge in the sense of what it is today. If you ever have a chance to watch Gettysburg or Gods and Generals, they show 2 other instances of desertion and refusal to fight and the punishment for each are shown or noted. Regarding Sargeant Mulchahey, there were many Irish immigrants that came to the US at that time (Irish Great Famine) and enlistment was a condition of entry/citizenship (for reference, watch Gangs of New York) ironically, there were Irish brigades on both sides but the Union had the majority of servicemen from Ireland. The 2nd Battle of Fort Wagner is the final battle depicted in the movie. What made this fort so hard to take was due to its proximity to the ocean, the marshlands towards the inland, and the high walls and extended parapet between the wall and the interior. The significance of this was the notariety the 54th Massachusetts received from the higher command and Lincoln, which prompted additional enlistments of Black soldiers. I recommend watching Gettysburg next as that movie, while heavily Union centric, does do a wonderful job of showing both Union and Confederate sides. Gods and Generals, while made after Gettysburg, is the prequel, and while also good, does not live up to what the expectations were. Hence why Last Full Measure was never made into a movie. For book reference, you'll want to read the novels by Michael Shaara. The 3 books combined are wonderful pieces of work.

[@lsbill27]

I'm so glad to see young people watching this movie. It brings home the message that our lives are rich and comfortable in comparison to so many. It's because of people like these who put their lives on the line for us in war after war.

[@falcon215]

This was amazing to see on the big screen. A story that long needed to be told and it was done beautifully. Doesn't seem dated at all. I'll always remember how quiet the theater was as the end credits rolled. Everyone remained until they ware all done.

[@ArthurX-eg8bc]

Antietam remains the bloodiest day in United States of America history, one wonder how Captain Shaw was incapacitated there to become who he became.

[@mikealvarez2322]

The 54th was not the first or only Black unit during the Civil war. It is a sad note that the actual members of the 54th was not portrayed in this movie. The only real person was Robert Shaw. Many of the volunteers came from abolitionist families, both white and black. One of the actual heroes in the Battle of Fort Wagner was Sgt. William Carney who kept the flag from touching the ground as the first bearer fell, then proceeded to carry the flag up to the enemy ramparts and back. He was eventually awarded the Medal of Honor for his heroism. Both Charles and Lewis Douglas (sons of Fredrick Douglas) joined the 54th in April, 1863. Lewis was a Master Sgt. and participated in the attack on Fort Wagner. I love the movie, but in my opinion it missed a golden opportunity to be listed with the historically accurate great movies like NAPOLEON (1970s), TORA, TORA, TORA, MIDWAY, SAVING PRIVATE RYAN, & HACKSAW RIDGE plus a bunch of other great historical classics.

[@MovieJoob]

Oh wow thank you so much for giving some information about some of the actual soldiers that is so fascinating!!

[@phila3884]

A lot of US history packed into this movie. Don't worry, a lot of Americans couldn't tell you much about the Civil War (unfortunately). The point about Irish not liking African Americans has to do more with the fact that they were also discriminated against in America, and were competing for jobs with Black Americans. Of course, there was probably an element of racism, but that's always going to the case, too.

[@beachem1]

Great reaction. Glad you had the courage, strength and honor to watch. 🫡🇺🇸

[@yadarehey1130]

The opening sequence was all one battle. It was technically a tie. The plurality if not majority of those who came were freed men. So many came that they actually had to form two regiments. The Rebel proclamation about putting guys back into slavery is real. To add insult to injury concerning the pay, they were further charged $3 for their uniforms. This means the army planned to give them only $7 as compared to the $13 they were expecting. They finally got the original pay, but not until many months had passed and many were already died.

[@MovieJoob]

Oh gosh that pay information is heartbreaking, and if any of the families of the deceased soldiers were still slaves they would have never seen the money either!

[@MovieJoob]

Such a terrifying proclamation as the fighting would have mostly taken place in southern states!!

[@yadarehey1130]

@@MovieJoob I almost forgot. It wouldn’t surprise me if the following fact was part of the tension between the black and Irish. A free black man could expect more pay for the same job than an Irishman. That’s if the Irishman would be hired at all. That’s as early as 5 years after the war, if not sooner.

[@crispy_338]

My absolute favorite Denzel movie is The Book of Eli. Post-apocalyptic story. It’s incredible.

[@TheFioda]

indeed. Perfect for many reasons

[@andygossard4293]

In our current prepping, New World Order, Great Reset world, maybe I oughta watch it.

[@nutterbuttergutter]

I love the music in that movie. I actually have the soundtrack on my phone.🙂

[@MovieJoob]

Ooh thank you so much for the suggestion!!

[@markr.devereux3385]

This stands as a great HOLLYWOOD achievement. A momentous time in AMERICAN HISTORY.. Morgan freeman is incredible and moving.

[@tonysmith5504]

The French were our allies during the revolutionary war 😁

[@emmanuelcalderon1982]

I can see why she made the mistake not being American. I know she saw the Patriot and it made reference to the French and Indian war.

[@hibbidyjibbidyy]

a woman finds out the absolute heroism that men can achive..and cries. so did i

[@johnchrysostomon6284]

I see a lot of Americans react to this and I don't think they get it. As an Australian I do because we commemorate a loss in ANZAC Day, where a loss can still be a turning point that made us a nation. The Southerners thought that they would show disrespect to Shaw by dumping him in a mass grave with his men. When his father heard this he said he was proud that his son was buried alongside his men.

[@revjohnlee]

There was a large influx of Irish immigrants arriving in the time period of our civil war. Many were recruited right of the docks as the ships arrived. It was a promise of food, shelter and pay at the price of being a soldier. Many thought it a good deal.

[@AstroXeno]

8:30 America and Britain were getting along at the time- The Union was doing everything possible to keep the British neutral, and the Confederacy- who the British bought lots and lots of cotton from- was trying to get the British to intervene on their behalf. Britain had gone through its industrial revolution in the 1840s, and the absolute core of it was the textile industry. But the British disapproved of slavery, and in the end, that was the deciding factor in keeping them out of the war.

[@MovieJoob]

Ahh I see, thank you so much for the context!!

[@marshalljankins4526]

God bless your sweet spirit. Salute!!

[@tarik158]

As a descendant of freed slaves I don’t see the losses the 54th suffered as being a terrible thing. They were willing to put their lives on the line to ensure their and future generations freedom. For that, they are forever heroes and my only wish is that I could fight beside them.

[@charlesh796]

Very Good work . I had three relatives who fought in the civil war two brothers in the Pennsylvania Artillery and one in the 6th Wisconsin the one from Wisconsin fought at Gettysburg. Nice work keep it up. God bless you

[@lansorbet5882]

The flogging scene was painful to watch, given what slaves had endured, but it had nothing to with race. It was standard practice, and deserters were usually executed. Shaw treated these men as any other soldiers. In 1950 The Uniform Military Code of Justice set forth numerous rights and disciplinary procedures. The last military execution was 1961.

[@MovieJoob]

That was my ignorance then, I didn’t know that was the punishment for all deserter soldiers!!

[@MovieJoob]

Thank you for the context and information!!

[@lansorbet5882]

@@MovieJoob - It was a crazy time. We love watching your experience (in this case, history). Keep up the good stuff. 🙂

[@erosson27]

During Sherman's March though Georgia they burned, and wrecked everything they could possibly find in order to demolish the rebel's ability to support their armies. So that Colonel's actions were horrible but they were in keeping with the overall union strategy ordered by general Grant and President Lincoln.

[@subitman]

The reason them men were fighting in mass was because at the time the rifles were smooth bored barrels leaving less accuracy. Modern day rifles have grooves to spin the bullet providing better accuracy so soldiers can spread out to choose their own targets. The cannon also used grape shot which is like a shotgun. This may not be bullets but any metal objects they could find. This was even more dangerous for groups of men charging together.

[@BlueDebut]

Although the smooth bore situation was true by 1862 a decent majority of rifles were rifled muskets like the infield, 1855 and the 1861 so the weapons had improved but the tactics stay the same for a bit and by the end of the war you started to see trench warfare and repeating rifles like the 1860 Henry rifle and the birth of the American rifleman concept with the sharps rifle

[@zmarko]

An amazing movie. And the score is simply brilliant.

[@UnclePengy]

31:28 I think the guy that said, "Give 'em hell, 54th" was the same guy that picked a fight with them earlier in the movie, when the weren't being allowed to fight. (But they all look the same with those big cheesy mustaches so I'm not certain.)

[@MasterWooten]

16:20 Corporal punishment was a common minor punishment in Armies back then. he was lucky that he wasn't shot for desertion.

[@MasterWooten]

10:41 No that decree was normal and expected. The Confederates had to discourage the raising of additional Union soldiers because they couldn't keep up with the Union as it was. Now with the Union enlisting black soldiers the Confederates were sure to lose, so they have to discourage the raising of such regiments by any means necessary including the threat of slavery and death.

[@toochangz]

Antietam (the first battle shown) is the bloodiest single day battle in US history

[@mikealvarez2322]

Don't feel bad, it was Great Britian that finally ended the Transatlantic Slave Trade. Blacks have volunteered and fought heroically in every war the US has been in. They've done this to prove themselves and fight for the ideals America stands for. I honor their service as well as all those fought under our flag even when our politicians treated them shamefully. Here I'm thinking of the Japanese Americans who were the most decorated unit of WW2 even though their families were being interned in camps losing their businesses and their homes.

[@Bea-Dubya]

Great Britain “ended” their involvement in the TST but the trade continued.

[@mikealvarez2322]

@@Bea-Dubya The Brits sent out ships to stop the Transatlantic Slave trade. They didn't stop it completely just like cops can't stop crime completely.

[@jesseusgrantcanales]

The fort at the end WAS taken but after it was abandoned towards the end of the war because they had to when it was clear holding it was hopeless.

[@demonofelru3214]

There was a lot leading up to the civil war slavery being one of the biggest reasons. Ken Burns Civil War is the best source if you want to learn the events leading up to the war and why it happened.

[@hangarflying]

Not only was slavery “one of the biggest” reasons, it is THE reason why the war happened.

[@demonofelru3214]

@@hangarflying Essentially yes when it comes down to a single answer.

[@karlmoles6530]

You can still have surgery without major anesthesia under certain conditions. When I was 16 I was in a terrible car wreck. The side of my face got smashed in pretty bad. But the doctors discovered, I had razor sharp bone slivers from my shattered jaw pressing into my carotid artery.. If they cut through and penetrate it? I could bleed out in under 30 seconds. So they had to do emergency lifesaving surgery in the ER, of course I didn't know what was happening. They told me lie on my side so I did. The nurse got right up in front on me and said hold my hand. All these people came into the room. Someone swabbed something wet on my neck. The doctor said "Hold him down" And I felt all these hands one me immobilizing me, especially on my head. I got scared. That's then I felt the tip of something very sharp touch my neck. Then he started cutting into me. I screamed and screamed. So yeah under the rarest of circumstance it is still done.

[@MovieJoob]

I am writhing in pain just reading your comment holy crap!! That is mortifying but I’m so glad they clearly did a good job as your are alive today!! ❤

[@keiththompson7280]

Its called mass your firepower , thats way they marched towards each other in line

[@Rocket1377]

A terrible military tactic, and one that proved totally ineffective once the machine gun and landmines were invented. It should have been abandoned earlier, and fewer soldiers would have died.

[@WilliamMoses355]

U-571 is a movie about submarines in WW2. Don't know if I'd recommend it for a reaction, because there are SO many awesome war movies. But a major theme is an officer who couldn't help becoming friends with his enlisted sailors. And, at one point, he needs one of them to die, in order to save the ship and the entire European war effort.

[@James-zg2nl]

If you want to learn more about black issues in the UK (and Ireland) I strongly recommend you watch/react to the movie Amazing Grace (2006). That would be an excellent start, and perfect for your channel. Cheers

[@MovieJoob]

Ah thank you so much for suggesting based on my comments!! I appreciate that so very much!

[@jamaicanpatriot6658]

Best Reaction yet..😢

[@J29117]

Robert never saw the men as less than him or treated them with disdain. He was simply maintaining a professional distance from the men he must command. It is common practice that Officers and Enlisted men should not fraternise too closely to make the Officer's job easier. The Officer must make decisions in combat that will result in men being killed and continue to function afterwards. This is extremely hard if the men that could be killed are close friends. It may seem cold, but it's a necessity of leadership that he keeps his distance in friendship. To do otherwise would be to do the men an enormous disservice.

[@stonecoldku4161]

5:18 Two of Fredrick Douglass' (the man speaking here) sons enlisted in the 54th. One of whom was promoted to the same rank as Morgan Freeman's character was in this movie. I believe they both survived the war.

[@zmarko]

25:19 Not sure if you recognized Tuco's Uncle from Breaking Bad in this scene, but that's (a much younger) Mark Margolis in the lower left of the screen. He passed away last year, RIP.

[@MovieJoob]

Oh holy moly I didn’t notice it till your comment that’s wild!! Thank you for pointing him out!! And R.I.P Mr Margolis!!

[@MovieJoob]

There were so many recognisable actors (at a much younger age than I knew them best as) including Andre Braugher who I loved as Holt from Brooklyn 99!!

[@scipioafricanus5871]

@@MovieJoob I thought you would have recognized Morgan Freeman but it didn't seemed like you did?

[@toochangz]

The civil war was fought using napoleonic tactics (march within 50 yards to be accurate) but the weapons had advanced 70 years (and were way more accurate)

[@donbergeson6771]

6:51 My question is, what do the French have to do with anything?

[@helifanodobezanozi7689]

Good reaction! If you want to see more of Major Forbes, you should watch "The Princess Bride."

[@stonecoldku4161]

Another American Civil War movie I highly recommend is the movie Gettysburg from 1993. Another one of the more historically accurate movies that Hollywood has made, it centers around the bloodiest and possibly most important battle of the American Civil War. It took place on July 1st, 2nd and 3rd of 1863, so this year is the 160th anniversary of that battle. So, it could be a good movie to react to this year.

[@chrisbanks5925]

Great reaction Jade.

[@MovieJoob]

Thank you so much 😊

[@phillipmullineaux9641]

All based on a true story and his own diaries. His parents were asked if they wanted him pulled out of the mass grave with the soldiers. They said, no way, they lived him, he loved his men, he's in the perfect place. And I'll go out on a limb....the civil war was the most wrong, needless, unholy, bloody, painful, massive death and 3 times the permanently wounded and injured, most terrible war in the history of the world.

[@phillipmullineaux9641]

Just so u know, it was American and Great Britain folks, who started the beginning of the end in the western hemisphere. Staring in the Mediterranean, north Africa, and middle east. Our Marines were formed by Thomas Jefferson, to combat slavery, on ships in those places. And our constitution has the end of slavery, written right intonit. Jefferson held 2 votes during his time, tovend all forms of slavery once and for all. They missed by one, then two, votes.

[@zonedout5998]

So you know, Shaw was suppose to kill Trip. Flogging wasn’t anything nice, but at that time, it was better than killing him “depending who you ask”. Too bad he didn’t know the truth until after he had him flogged. But that’s how the story goes. Great movie and performances!