Are Bike Thieves Getting Smarter? | Dirt Shed Show 478

This week on the GMBN Dirt Shed Show, Martyn Ashton is joined by Rich Payne to ask the question, are bike thieves getting more sophisticated? 😳 This topic has been prompted due to the unfortunate event of Frameworks racing having their kit stolen after the Fort William stop of the Mountain Bike World Cup.
Plus MTB News, Sickest Thing, Hacks And Bodges, Caption Contest, and Hacks And Bodges, plus some Super Nice bikes locked away in the Bike Vault!⁠
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00:00 - Intro
00:39 - [Announcement] Nico Mulally & Frameworx racing
02:06 - Bike Theft Sucks!
10:00 - MTB News
11:46 - Sickest Thing Of The Week
12:45 - Back to the shed
17:07 - Hacks And Bodges
20:10 - Shop Shoutout
20:42 - Things We Liked
21:53 - Caption Contest
23:20 - On the channel
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[@gmbn]

Do you have any tips for bike security?

[@alexandersommer8741]

I live in denmark and here we have stampt in frame numbers and on carbon frames we can get a (really tough) sticker off a QR code at the police station if off course we have the reacept off the bike and then register it at the ensurence company. Butt high end bikes just disapere out off the country, if This whas the same all over europ we cuold find the bike across borders

[@edwards8383]

Cover it in stickers and leave your joint still burning in the top cap bolt hole. So they know you'll kick they're teeth in if you catch them. I leave a 3.5k bike outside shops no lock or anything. They just know 🤣 Its not worth the stitches 🤨

[@fabulousfabrications1985]

Yes never let your bike out of sight unless it’s in your house or garage and locked up tight with hidden cameras recording and make sure to have all kind of other stuff they will not have enough time to steal so they will get caught trying to steal everything

[@Juuythljgrrdwq]

mines

[@IOUaUsername]

Do a hi-vis wrap with "POLICE" written on it and people will be hesitant to steal your bike. Write "NOT A COP" on your helmet and they can't claim you're impersonating an officer.

[@dazzah1966]

I had 3 bikes (2 ebikes and a hardtail mtb) stolen from my garage last week, all insured individually through my home insurance. I had photos of the bikes and video of the thieves, police weren't interested just gave me a crime number for the insurance company.

[@KuroSanArts]

I've had 5 bikes stolen in London over the last 35 years (most recent about 15 years ago), last time I reported one stolen, I had to argue with the Police just to give them a proper description, all they wanted was the make and colour and no amount of trying to explain to them that this was a highly customised bike that you couldn't buy off the shelf would budge them from that, so of course I never saw that bike again! Even more recently and because of the wild prices of some of these bikes now, there's a lot more incidents of people getting physically dragged off their bikes too. If you live in any city or large town in the UK you just can't have nice things anymore!

[@johnssmith4005]

Have you tried not living in London ?

[@KuroSanArts]

@@johnssmith4005 Sure thing, would you like to buy my house, cover my business losses and rebuild my client base while I do that?

[@KuroSanArts]

@@johnssmith4005 Sure thing, let me know when you have the cash to buy my house, cover my business losses and have built up a new client base for me in the area of my choosing.....

[@Aka.Aka.]

Try cycling in Japan, you can leave your bike unlocked and it won't be stolen

[@se7en910]

​@Aka.Aka. fukushima tsunami gangs and some of the worst human atrocities In history plus brutally expensive apartments. I'll stay in the west where I'm happy safe and can afford to live.

[@Alex-gk5py]

“ I have heard that you like to ride a lot of wood” Made me laugh out loud. Well done.

[@zfiddy]

You cant leave your bike anywhere here in Australia anymore either, junkies are all over them within seconds.

[@EarthlyEden1]

Milton Keynes is an apocalyptic waste ground. Doesn't surprise me. 😅

[@user-yv2cz8oj1k]

Look, the town planners designed it that way. 🤣

[@Jon1Surf1Lim]

Yep lesson to be learned there don’t stop in Milton Keynes folks, it’s a fucking shit hole....

[@rodmarker2071]

My friend had 2 bikes stolen from the Garage. He saw them advertised on GumTree, the Police weren't interested as it was a 'Rough Estate' . He had to beg on his knees, it wasn't until his uncle, who was a copper in an ajoining set of cops made a few calls that they went in to get them. So the main excuse was 'proof of ownership' - think about it and make sure you can prove you own it. Even then there wasn't a big motivation from the cops to charge the "Scally Wags" who were known to the cops.

[@Ferrari255GTO]

That's just hear shattering... I wish you guys the best of luck getting thoose bikes back, i know i'd die for mine...

[@marick791]

Oh no the uploader failed me that picture of my Scott Scale was the before shot, then rubbed it down and sprayed it metallic blue with dark fade. Guess should be pleased with the Super Nice l😅

[@JeffMTBinVA]

It's crazy that Anna just mentioned insurance on tech a week ago. I can't wait to one day visit the UK, without my bike, definitely going to rent one. As far as expecting this in the U.S. or other countries have to be as bad, here are some interesting numbers. Roughly 175-180K bikes stolen yearly in the U.S. in a country 40 times bigger. Whether you divide that number by 40 or multiply the UK's 77K by 40 it is very eye opening on theft per country. Sorry Martyn, the UK is one of the worst for this.

[@CMZPICTURES]

If you are buying a recent high end used bike and you don't ask to see the sales receipts, warranty paperwork and instruction manuals, you might be part of the problem. The one I don't get is e-bikes. You need the model specific charger and the key (depending on the bike) to move it on. I'm also surprised that high end bikes don't come with a "Passport" like things like Rolex do. Literally a bit of security paper with the frame number on (obviously you can get more high tech with apps and nfc if you want). If you don't have the card, you can't prove it's your bike. Recently I wanted to get a cheap Brompton and couldn't bring myself to buy used because it seemed too likely I'd be buying a stolen bike.

[@srstrand01]

GMBN's best combination ... Rich and Martyn ... !!!!!!

[@richardpayne5176]

Thanks dude glad you enjoyed the show 👊

[@Ryan01224]

In Scotland specifically Aberdeen at least about 10 bikes go missing within a day on a weekend who knows ive had my kona stinky taken with a d lock no less had a straight cut through it

[@InitialP_Photography]

Didn't the same happen to Gwinn a few years ago but before a race at Ft Bill, was when he was on Specialized.

[@woduk]

Really annoys me this, I’m sat watching this on my phone and my bike is right next to me in the house. hiplock d1000 I have it’s a beast to carry around. Those bikes will be stripped and sold. Someone knew what was in there

[@InitialP_Photography]

Haha, loved it, you called me a wheelchair, The bikes called a Zukan not me 😅

[@GreatCreative]

We had our bikes stolen here in a quiet neighbourhood in BC. Our bad for leaving them on the car rack, but the bikes were locked to the rack with 3 locks and the rack was locked to the car. Thieves couldn’t get the rack off the car or the bikes off the rack, so they disassembled the rack at the articulating arm and took the bikes and half the rack in one package. They definitely had all the tools they needed. Fortunately we had an unlimited coverage package on our insurance and got completely new bikes, rack, and locks of our choice.

[@gmbn]

Sucks to hear! Glad to hear that the insurance company didn't wriggle out some way though. Hopefully it doesn't become a trend in your area

[@petermaidment1175]

I had my ebike stolen 3 weeks ago from my lean to office, doors locked, alarm and camera. Reported it online a 3am the greater manchester police, a detective and cunstable arrived next morning and csi visited, great response from our local police. Still waiting to see if the insurance are going to pay out?

[@agg25gga]

Milton Keynes is a shithole. I was doing some work there and saw a guy getting chased by someone else, turns out he'd robbed some kids of their phone at the basketball courts.

[@vr4042]

The problem with air tags is that if the thieves have an iphone, after 30 minutes, the air tag sends a message to the phone saying their is an unregistered air tag nearby.

[@kevb8828]

Exactly my thoughts but Apple needed to do this as air tags were being used to steal cars etc so it’s a bit pointless! What bikes really need is a proper built in GPS but ultimately much much harsher punishments are needed so the risk isn’t worth the reward etc

[@vr4042]

@@kevb8828 the "Tile" tags allow you to apply for notice free tracking, but you have to register the tag with them. Did some maths, and bikes are twice as likely to be stolen in the UK than the US. In the US it usually happens out and about because of poor or no locks. Thefts from garages are shockingly rare.

[@user-yv2cz8oj1k]

Thieves and stalkers were putting them into the wheel arches of cars or into people's bags and clothing.

[@vr4042]

@@user-yv2cz8oj1k True, but Tile allows you to turn off this feature of the air tag is registered, so if it is found clandestinely, they have someone to attach it to. Apple should do something like this. Especially if it is linked to a verified Apple ID.

[@EMTBonsai]

Yeah with the new update but samsung do an air tag it's better anyway

[@alexruddy3181]

Caption contest: After seeing the latest section on bike security on the Dirt Shed show, Steve finds a novel place to store his AirTag.

[@BinManSays]

That theft is madness, I was up at Fort William at the beginning of the week and couldn't help think how mad it was that all the nice bikes were just everywhere and how no one seemed to care in the slightest. Well other than me who was busy perving at them all like 😍 I miss my bike

[@krehme]

Thanks guys! Super fun show. Cheers! Look forward to seeing you again next week!

[@johnodonoghue3188]

One of Fun-ist shows Ritch! 😂1 Must have been hard for Martyn to watch the edit!!

[@simonhunt7798]

This happened in Cardiff back a few years ago. Teams of organised thieves target events such as this to identify what they’re going to steal. It also happens at motorbikes events as well.

[@gmbn]

Organised crime is no joke! It seems every year there are large scale bike races in the UK that there is equipment stolen

[@stevemcq75]

I've had 3 bikes stolen and 2 replaced on home and contents insurance. 2 were later recovered by Police thanks to BikeLinc (Australian version of bike register) - on one occasion it was because a bike shop checked the serial number of a bike being sold to them which led to the thief being arrested. Register your bikes people, it works!

[@user-hx1uj2sm3d]

I'm surprised there isn't already a vigilante community where people bait thieves and apply extrajudicial measures to them. Maybe a video suggestion if you're up for it?

[@dirtyoffroader2093]

You cant't harm thieves or burglars in the UK, the justice system would throw the book at you while only giving the poor thieves a slap on the wrist and maybe a holiday. 🤦‍♂️ Vigilantes would be locked up for 400 years each.. with no bail..😔

[@agg25gga]

Electric shock seats or seat poles that go up the thieves asses.

[@vashon100]

@@dirtyoffroader2093 Snipers.

[@tidyjimmy]

I was foolish enough to use a cheap lock whilst nipping into the shops, however some good shoppers had seen it happen and grabbed one of the lads, a forceful couple words from me had my bike back within minutes. I was lucky big time, thousands aren't, and I'll never take that risk again!

[@yesmate78]

Buy a crap bike

[@markmoreno7295]

Caption contest: “I told you a hardtail would not allow us to crack on!”

[@NoName-nf6kz]

#CAPTIONCONTEST No! No! I was asking if I could borrow a TIRE plug.

[@johnkirkpatrick6032]

***If your bike is worth £1000 and it's stolen and your insurance only covers bikes up to £500 then it will likely not pay out anything*** it's natural to think it will pay out £500, but that's not the case.

[@IanMaddock]

A simple trick, take off a grip, the seat etc and push a piece of paper - perhaps laminated if water can get in - with your name and a doodle or something unique to you. Then if your bike is recovered you have a way of proving the bike is yours with a unique signature that the police etc can't dispute. Just tell the police it's there

[@EMTBonsai]

It costs nothing to insure your new ebike on your house insurance the guys were great going through everything and only covers if it's a GOLD level lock aswell when it's out and about! Cost me an extra £6 on my highest premium house insurance it covers the bike from theft and luckily enough if the frame snaps! And some other components it's got a warranty being new but this is part of the cover so it's worth having!

[@Grant3399]

#CAPTIONCONTEST The moment you realise your chamois cream might be expired

[@edwards8383]

🤣🤣🤣 I HEARD YOU LIKE RIDING WOOD MARITIN!!!🤣🤣🤣

[@winklertribe5268]

Maybe there should be different categories for analog and electronic assist bikes in World Cups (like geared vs single speed riders). That way the riders that can’t afford all the tech still have a chance.

[@isaakandrewm4888]

Nice content! Martyn you are the best remember that❤

[@EMTBonsai]

3D printed Bush walloper yeah its good idea but how did he get the new one on without taking the cables off? Or has it just come loose? Slightly confused myself here

[@jharsh3376]

It’s for the lower headset bearing. Lower lockblock goes out first and often for me.

[@user-vv2ev6fx6g]

Come on, Blakey, I've run out of treats, so no time for rollovers 😂 from Rory Powell

[@EMTBonsai]

Bosch has that register on their system upload the documents and photos of your bike to the app! Gold standard locks only will cover your insurance make sure you have atleast 1 gold level lock! Your insurance company will keep you right there alot of bikers now in the company who know everything the guy we got was fantastic!

[@olegpetelevitch4443]

Sorry to hear m8 ! Hope they get caught ! Hopefully they will get them ! Agree you don't need formula ! You need to ride and have fun ! Unless you are Nino !

[@Antjan46]

#captioncontest ‘20 year old me, I’ll be back!’ ‘50 year old me, Ahhh my back!’

[@BendrixMc]

If you have a wooden shed check out the shed shackle it's the only sold secure gold anchor for wooden sheds

[@EMTBonsai]

Need to tell Sam Pilgrim about the quad flip hes been breaking records this week GBWR wants him to register lol broke 6 world records in 1 video the other day crazy!

[@roaldmol3259]

I work in a bike shop in the Netherlands and we've had 20 regular e-bikes stolen last year. It's a huge problem for the company.. :(

[@SticklesMickles]

just came home from work on my 46th birthday to see my first Supernice, cheers 👌

[@alexandersommer8741]

I live in denmark and here we have stampt in frame numbers and on carbon frames we can get a (really tough) sticker off a QR code at the police station if off course we have the reacept off the bike and then register it at the ensurence company. Butt high end bikes just disapere out off the country

[@CrazyBikerGuy]

No simply the tools have got better and I mean the electrical tools not the thevies. Locks haven't changed but the game and tools have.

[@jimmythe5906]

I saw the atherton race team at my local bowling

[@andresvives5930]

#captiontest checking the turbo exhaust is working properly!

[@EchoFoxtrott1]

Recently took my bike on a road trip and to make it less appealing to someone thinking of stealing it I take the front wheel off, put it into the highest gear and remove the battery from the AXS drivetrain.

[@se7en910]

Cos carrying is not a skill of criminals?

[@EchoFoxtrott1]

@@se7en910 Clearly you're not as smart as you think you are, because they would have to either break in to the car as well to find the front wheel or try and find the right replacement wheel to make it rideable. Fork out for a battery for AXS or swap the whole thing over. And carrying a bike gets old pretty quick, so there's a high chance that they would dump it pretty quickly if the cops saw them.

[@kyletriesfitness500]

I prefer fully comprehensive bicycle insurance in case it gets stolen offsite .. and if you have a big crash and destroy the frame and components its not covered by warranty but your insurance will cover accidental damage

[@daviddwight5745]

Had a couple of goons try to drag me off my bike 2 years ago, the one I got hold of is still prolly eating through a straw, no cops just hammers👍

[@PsyMongSki]

I have a shed shackle wall anchor 2 more wall anchors and a floor anchors, chained up eith 4 thick motorbike chains and an extra wire to secure my bike. My shed is strengthened and a security bar on the door with 2 more lock and hasps. My windows has a wire grate iver it and sectioned with wood. Plus a shed alarm. Still worried about it being stolen. Register your bike everywhere you can there are a few places to do this online. Keep your whips safe dudes😊

[@johnssmith4005]

I have to agree with Martyn on the DH World Cup , I too was not impressed with it , to me the DH World Cup is the MOTO GP of the MTB World sure it's not bad and has it's cool moments but Freeride videos like that one is the Isle of Man TT of the MTB World you simply cannot go back once you saw such a ride , a compilation of the best moments at Fort William cannot be compared to that video

[@ltrtg13]

I have Blake's old bike insured by a specialist bicyle insurance company. Which you can add racing and international travel to.

[@Brendan95902]

Just for correctness, you do realiase that a Beagle is classified as a hound, so "Hounds and Beagles" doesn't really make much sense as a title for a part of the show.... I do love seeing the dogs, Beagles and non-Beagles.

[@junka1975]

Doh! A rare dropped catch by Rich at silly mid on in the shed and that has given the Aussies victory at the Ashes. 😜👍 Just kidding Rich, we know you still got the safest set of hands at GMBN.

[@endurancegoliath4569]

I googled how many bikes per year gets stolen in my country ( The Netherlands)..and o boy, what a shocking number; 500.000 per year.

[@johnharding8204]

#captioncontest - Checking for airholes before the trail is always a necessity!

[@TheCrappen]

I believe they meant ollie from gcn lol 27:54

[@bigalsbash]

Annoying to say the least, in fact that's putting it mildly. My bikes were insured only in the house. Got back from morzine last summer, stripped the back end of my capra to change the hearings. Left all the rear end parts laid out neat in the garage only to be stolen, chain stay, seat stay, shock, transmission rear mech and most of my tools gone. I now have specialist bike insurance.

[@user-yv2cz8oj1k]

A next door family where a PITA, upset rival drug dealers, someone mysteriously pointed them in the general direction of their house, most of the street hated them, and definitely didn't know a thing when the police came around and asked about their windows being smashed in. 🤣 Two weeks later they suddenly moved out. My insurance was unlimited, then two weeks later on the thieving little 🤬who had lived next door and his makes stole my £800 10 year old mountain bike hard tail and £400 of parts from me. So my insurance is now capped at £1000, but at least our street is fine now. Told the police, no interest at all, first person to even bother was the insurance assessor weeks later.

[@gdemirjian]

Caption for Blake: oh, I get on the bike... now that makes sense.

[@kamielpitschon]

#captioncontest me checking my pants after a tough descent and almost dying

[@komoonkh]

I still dont know why Isaac left gmbn. Does somebody know?

[@wonderwatch2239]

Did he leave, or is he still there editing behind the scenes?🤷‍♂️

[@heywood165]

I'd forgotten all about that guy, didn't notice he'd gone. I saw Adam Walda on a Rob rides emtb podcast. I'm guessing losing sponsors has meant they needed to trim wages.

[@73megalith]

Even if you locate your stolen bike good luck getting it back with police help

[@deedontworry]

In London I see bike thieves operate on electric bikes! 😡 I guess cause it's easy getaway.

[@elrictdb]

#captioncontest Shall we hit the jump up ahead? Nah - I definitely felt the wind increasing.

[@Jake-wc1di]

#captioncontest when your really itching to get on the trail

[@45graham45]

I'd never leave my bikes unattended either in or on a car / van. I've had bike stolen in the past & despite finding names & addresses of the scum bags the police didn't want to know. Any shed or garage isn't a secure place for bikes either.

[@ilves6664]

Lots of nice bikes. Really 😊

[@savgraovac6911]

Battery powered tools like angle grinders is the biggest issue with bike crime.

[@woduk]

Hiplock d1000 it’s a beast grinders takes awhile to go through them and you have to cut it twice

[@WyoXJ]

Biggest issue is we are not cutting hands off anymore

[@vashon100]

@@WyoXJ Thank you, Exactly. Bring back the Roman arenas.

[@markcosens1]

Gutted for the frameworks team. However I keep my bikes in the lounge and don't leave them unattended when out, so they haven't been stolen.

[@markc-aus]

#captioncontest - when the dropper post returns just a little too quick

[@JasonTrew2018]

#captioncontest: "Man that trail really ate up at my rear end, I knew I forgot the shammy creme"

[@Texasbird026]

I am guessing the stolen specialty bikes are going to be taken apart and the parts sold. If you make a claim on home insurance buckle up for even higher rates. It all sucks.

[@Twowheels8578]

#captioncontest- Hey Rich, this is turning out to be a bootiful day!

[@leehanlon4932]

Insurance: If you have a bike over £5k you need to class 10 lock to have your insurance valid.

[@johnssmith4005]

12:39 to 12:42 Would a helmet and body armor even save you in case of a crash because my guess is NOT AT ALL

[@the_spanner_ch7mp]

#captioncontest ' no Steve i said dropper parts not drop ya pants!!!'

[@The-Scottish-Princess]

i live in a flat i could keep it in the house but majorly inconvient lol, what i do is lock all 3 of my bikes togither on the shared entrance they are not in anyones way and i will for sure hear the fucking about to get all 3 bikes out the door togither even with help lol

[@andresrodriguezperez8597]

All my bikes are at home. Last time I had them on a garage someone tried to steal them

[@gmbn]

Get them on the house insurance!

[@mcl40000]

they wont sell the frames cuz they know. but forks, wheels and whatnot will pay enough so they can dump the rest

[@olibrown4270]

Trust me you don't need to stand up on this part just chill #captioncontest

[@johnrickard5751]

The bottom line is that thieves will only steal something if it's worth it to them and they can move it on easily. The bike industry has created this problem by making bikes / e-bikes desirable items worth making the effort to steal. Bikes are massively overpriced for what they are. Who, in their right mind spends upwards of £8k on a bike and doesn't expect someone to want to nick it from them. I know someone who owns a 'boutique' bike that they bought for a fortune and are now too scared to go out and ride it for fear of it being pinched. It's just sitting their gathering dust. What's the point in that? So if the bike manufacturers decided to make bikes that are more affordable, realistically and reasonably priced, then there would be less of a market to steal them. Haarumph ! Can someone get me some steps to get down of this high horse please 🤣

[@notbitter8670]

#CAPTIONCONTEST Rich is having a cracking time!

[@johnssmith4005]

The guys in the Sickest Thing part took the Mountain in Mountain Biking waaaay too serious , Mountain is more of a suggestion of the bike's capabilities to be ridden in Mountainous regions not literally down the side of a Mountain 😮

[@andywellon2287]

#captioncontest loosing is a real pain in the ass!

[@vashon100]

losing vs loosing

[@brendanarkinstall4573]

#captioncontest “hold on rich I’m still wiping”

[@j.albertogratacos2076]

#CAPTIONCONTEST The moment you realize that droopy drawers and ebikes with knobbies don't mix.

[@kevb8828]

I honestly don’t understand the point in using air tags! Air tags notify any iPhone where an air tag is following you that an air tag is following…. So if the person who stole your bike has an iPhone they will know the bike has an air tag within 10 minutes… so what’s the point?

[@EMTBonsai]

The pedal bikers can't really complain about ebikes anymore 4 of the 5 using Flight attendance and Fox Live, but to be fair this doesn't seem fair to the others racing does it!

[@gibbykirwan7788]

Same shit happened to Aron gwinn on his way to fort William few years back outside Edinburgh

[@johnkirkpatrick6032]

#captioncontest That's the last time I take a tip from Martyn to ride wood

[@Wildman-zh8lg]

We all know you ride wood all the time

[@kevchard5214]

I would expect this happening in the US but never the UK.

[@mattk3649]

Happens when you start bringing in criminals into the country.

[@nicklowe536]

My son had two lads try to stop him by jumping Infront of him. He kicked out and cycled off. I reported it to the police and they emailed me back a week later no interest at all.

[@ze_pilot]

#captioncontest pov: you forgot about your prd, so now you have to do your pfc For those who are unfamiliar with Mtb acronyms, prd: pre-ride dump. Pfc: post-flatulence check

[@LevoSteve-O]

I had several bikes stolen as a kid. That paranoia lasts to this day. I keep my bike locked EVERYWHERE I go. Thieves are opportunists, don't give them an easy opportunity to walk off with your stuff!

[@gmbn]

Sorry to hear, but great that you're so on it now! That's the key, constant locking and vigilance when in public

[@joelrosin2326]

#captioncontest Have you got any leaves Rich?