The Ultimate Luigi's Mansion Iceberg Explained

[@mystic64984]

Errors: The Hidden Mansion IS in all regions, it’s just that the PAL one is much better. All America got were ghosts with more health and a stronger Poltergust. PAL on the other hand got a lot more changes that I won’t get into E.Gadd says at the end that all Luigi’s hard work lasted only one night Luigi’s Mansion 64 could refer to the ROM hack, or that Luigi’s Mansion started on the 64DD in 1999, but that didn’t last long SM64 audio sample refers to how when you collect one of Mario’s items, the star collect sound from Mario 64 plays I have no clue about the crows but I think it might be how they appear in the one cutscene and never again Not an error, but the biography of Sue Pea is really depressing My guess for the 3DS Box Art is that they updated the Luigi model, but not the ghosts model There was an unused multiplayer mode that was recently found. Maybe that’s where bMario was going to be used The first person view from the GBH can be seen in the same magazine the Safari Ghost rumor came from. It’s either on the same page or the one next to it Luigi’s shoelaces never appear in any game again There’s no official answer to how Mario was captured, but a video by ZoomZike used evidence from the game to try and figure it out I’m pretty sure the reason the larger gallery exists is because they were testing room scales. Even if the room itself is longer, the collision is the same as the final Area 4 darkness refers to how the hallway in Area 4 can never be lit up Why would King Boo plant more of Mario’s items that would help Luigi? He probably did bring spares Something about Bogmires origins, and I don’t remember where I heard this, but I remember hearing that Bogmire is a creation made up of fear, more specifically, the fear of others Real Money refers to how usually we see only Coins in the Mario universe, but this is one of the only times we see stuff like dollar bills and gemstones for currency I have no clue what Fire Tornado is Living Spooky refers to how in one of the rooms (Lydias, I think?), there’s a framed picture of Spooky when he was alive. I don’t blame you for getting this wrong, because the source didn’t include it Beta64 said it took 6 months to program the dust, so either you’re wrong or he is. I’m leaning towards Beta64 being wrong, because it’s hard to argue against game files I would bring up other things like Elemental Blast and how I did actually hear something in the Toad theme right before the song looped, but other commenters pointed those out. Overall, this was a great iceberg. my compliments go to you 👍

[@gmdblue]

Thanks! I appreciate hearing feedback from people, it means more to me than people think. Unrelated to this video in specific but I’ve thought about making addendum videos with full corrections or added context, as my older vids get a lot wrong at times, and I’ve since gotten better at researching and what not. There’s only a couple of things in the iceberg vids that actually embarrass me that I got wrong, but it is what it is as nobody is perfect

[@nxrevolution3289]

Added correction, Real money, I’m pretty sure refers to the fact that the money found in the fake mansion is real, which is why Luigi builds a new one in its place depending on how much money he finds. This is what I always heard about this point at least.

[@ThyKosmikTym]

Hiya. Commenting about the Bogmire fear entry. When you look at Bogmire's entry on the GBH (Game Boy Horro) it says that he is a product of the mansions fear and despair. But that he's not sure who to fear or what to despair of. Reminds me of my depression lol

[@maddosshmillore]

Yep, I'm wrong. 6 months. I learned this and said "Ops, I need to edit the Iceberg" and then forgot

[@mystic64984]

@@maddosshmillore I didn’t think the creator of the iceberg would show up. great job! the bigger iceberg, the better IMO

[@ShyGuyXXL]

1:06:34 Wait, how is it an obscure theory that King Boo is the one who sent the letter telling Luigi he won the mansion? He pretty much confirms this in his final speech. King Boo: "...Seriously, though, who would actually believe that mansions get given away in contests?! Talk about stupid! What do they feed you Mario brothers anyway... gullible soup?" Why would he say this if the letter was actually real?

[@rydercanfield3721]

Yeah, it's a bit.. weird that the creators of the iceberg put that in the obscure portion.

[@andreworders7305]

How did whoever made this think it belonged at the bottom? The tiering on this is questionable.

[@MaxFlub]

He also did it in LM3

[@septic_cipher]

Yeah like… That should be the first entry on the first tier, I’d argue.

[@SammEater]

I guess they weren't paying attention to it.

[@welshdraagonx]

25:46 I recently have played Luigis mansion, and I swear E Gadd says that Luigi did it all in one night.

[@Yoshifan1219]

He says it when talking to your after capturing king boo.

[@YARGGG_GG]

he does say it

[@trapythetmanhimself]

He does

[@CesarR1037]

He definitely does. Plus the comercial for the game that he played also says "you have one night to rescue Mario"

[@Flare8295]

He did

[@azurenano]

Btw, elemental blast means when you press the trigger quickly, you can perform a longer range projectile version of the element that uses up more of the element meter

[@KirbyProductions]

I thought I was the only one who knew, it’s pretty fun to use, but I don’t know how practical it’s use is

[@detectivesunshine1760]

I guess its like the super mario sunshine quick blast

[@Sapphireeyes104]

It doesn't have to be fast, just a full trigger press until it clicks. There is a bit of a cooldown between them, I think. You can empty an ability out really fast that way though.

[@HarleenQuinzel-jt1zc]

The thing about Gadd is, he's not evil. He's just not nessicarily good either. He only cares about his inventions and experiments. He sees everything Luigi does as purely a test of his inventions, which is reflected in some of the things you'll hear him say after missions in other luigi's mansion games. He's always really quick to shower his inventions with praise while disregarding those around him. Here's a couple examples: After the Bogmire fight: "Even if that lightning had cooked your goose, the Poltergust 3000 would be perfectly fine!" LM3, when first rescued: "You want to save your friends, you say?" *Throws head back dramatically and groans* LM2, after the mission Double Trouble: "I really haven't been paying attention to what's been going on up there... I thought a ghost had somehow snuck through with Toad, so I socked him in the nose! He'll heal up eventually." He's also constantly talking about forgetting his toad assistants. He has no problems throwing Luigi into dangerous situations, but he also never really leaves Luigi with no options. In fact, the entire Dark Moon game was started by Gadd literally abducting Luigi against his will. True, it ended up being a good idea to do, since Mario was captured, but there's more! In the security pictures that the toads give you throughout the game, he sees Mario's hat in the painting and doesn't recognize him until most of the painting is visible in the last image. This shows how little he pays attention to other people. Him giving the brush to Bowser Jr was just another of his experiments. He got to test both the brush and the FLUDD at the same time while not having to put in an ounce of work himself. He does the same with the Poltergust, Dark Light Device, Stryobulb, Gooigi, and even his E-Gates with Luigi throughout the course of the three games. I think Gadd is merely a psychopath, incapable of feeling emotions or real connections to people. Not an evil one, just one that only finds meaning in life through his inventions.

[@ElectrikStatik900]

I definitely hear a weird noise in the Toad theme. Listen closely at 1:29:58 It's pretty quiet, but it's there, and it sounds like a chair creaking while being moved or something.

[@Freddyspizzaworld]

I’m pretty sure it’s a reversed sound

[@anubion42]

Yea i hear it too, at least 3 distinct "creaks"

[@NotSoCalmBaT]

Same

[@rojoscostanada8685]

It plays in the gallery too.

[@Gata2099]

Yeah I'd say it sounds like a reversed note

[@Nintentoni]

1:19:16 in the gamecube version that is true, but in the 3ds version there is heart dialog for him. His heart info is: "Go back to the woods, boyo"

[@blargg1073]

Great Video! 1:08:03 For the “fire tornado” entry, my guess is that this entry is talking about a visual flair that appears during the King Boo/Bowser fight. If you pay attention to the background scenery during the fight, you can sometimes see a fiery vortex move about. While this can happen multiple times throughout the fight, the vortex is pretty brief and can be easy to miss. That’s my guess for that entry.

[@Langtree]

i think the 3ds boxart one is referring to how detailed his teeth are and maybe just the general mishmash of his render compared to the old ones alongside it

[@lilwavesz]

i thought it was that the blue and pink stylized ghosts on the cover aren’t in LM1. Are they? they look more like dark moon onwards art style to me but idk

[@ShyGuyXXL]

I believe that unused "poisoned" animation is actually a choking animation. You know, for when the grabbing ghosts grab you. They probably thought it looked a little too violent, so they made a new version that looks more like Luigi is struggling to get the ghosts off of him, rather than him actually having his windpipe throttled. This would also make sense because some of the grabbing ghosts don't even do damage to you when they grab you, they only hinder your attacks, so it would make sense to have a more tame animation for that.

[@user-Tod-The-Toadster]

That makes sense until you consider the poison mushroom which very likely used the animation originally

[@requiemdragon8620]

1:26:19 This Smash trailer could actually be referencing an Easter Egg in the 3DS version of one of the Castlevania games, where a corpse can be found that's a reference to Luigi, referencing strange mushrooms that "even his brother, Mario, would be perturbed." It then implies that Luigi eats one of these mushrooms, causing his death.

[@TR4G1CK]

Also the Prima guide for Sunshine says Bowser Jr. used Shadow Mario to trick E. Gadd into giving him the paintbrush which puts a hole in the evil Gadd theory.

[@clurgee4923]

How the hell could he get Shadow Mario to trick him into giving him the paintbrush if he needed the paintbrush to make Shadow Mario in the first place

[@TR4G1CK]

@@clurgee4923 I think we all kinda assumed Shadow Mario is a product of the magic brush, but I'm not sure if that was ever actually confirmed.

[@KunaProductions]

Prima isnt nintendo, is it?

[@septic_cipher]

@@KunaProductions All of Prima’s guidebooks for Nintendo games are officially published by Nintendo, meaning Nintendo has to approve of all the material within them. Even if the Prima guide wasn’t official (it is), Next Level Games retroactively confirmed E. Gadd to be colorblind in Dark Moon, which would suggest the same events as Prima’s Sunshine guide; Junior, using Shadow Mario, tricked Professor E. Gadd, who is colorblind, into giving him the Magic Paintbrush.

[@supernintendo182]

​​@@clurgee4923I don't think it's the brush that disguises Jr, it's his little bib/scarf/whatever it is. He pulls it down from his mouth when he takes off his Shadow Mario disguise.

[@ShyGuyXXL]

My theory for why Bowser Jr. got the magic paintbrush is that he already had the bandana that turned him into Shadow Mario, so E. Gadd thought he was Mario. Or Bowser Jr. only thinks Gadd "gave" him the brush because he likes to think of himself as the good guy and in reality he never got permission to take it. Or he's just straight up lying. Wouldn't surprise me. Or maybe E. Gadd simply didn't think Bowser Jr. would be a bad guy, since they didn't know each other, and maybe Jr. pretended to be nice, and so Gadd thought he could trust the young fella.

[@silvergames8798]

I HAD no idea badger from breaking bad had a youtube channel

[@shinxybinxythousandnine3416]

Lmfao now that you said it xX

[@diediedice]

NAHHHHH😭😭💀 That's what his voice reminded me of omg

[@thundertits]

I was thinking more Gunther fro Kick Buttowski

[@coltonwilkie241]

Badger always did seem like a Luigi guy. Skinny Pete is definitely a Mario Kart superfan.

[@4n4x]

I heard it too lol

[@Ziroikabi]

I was not expecting to get a Luigis Mansion iceberg today. Been like 18 years since I first played it on gamecube and I still play it yearly and I'm extremely nostalgic for it. Really enjoyed the video as usual! Always high quality and though I know a lot about the game it did teach me 1 or 2 things I never knew ❤

[@PhantomAnimations]

I dunno if you get this but you sound almost like badger from breaking bad, i dont know, just seemed kind of funny(in a good sense ofc, i find that mans voice nice to listen to). I havent finished the video yet but i can tell that this is gonna be interesting! Loved this game as a kid!

[@thoracis]

Bro, Badger was the maaan /g

[@gatorvideos8151]

i thought the same thing lmao

[@ivegotsixstix]

badger and skinny pete were like the mvps of the shows imo

[@milesfernando]

LMAO I hear it now holy shit

[@chocov1233]

3:08 - When the main part of Totaka's Song starts playing (he's taking over it).

[@IkerSanz-x1d]

Yeah, he doesn't even know Totaka's song

[@flamesofshadow7633]

for the telephone part at 1:31:00. land line telephones don't require power to work, they work through the landline itself

[@MarlopolyGaming]

21:38 It's actually quite fun that many of the ghosts in luigi's mansion 3 were actually cut ghosts from the original luigi's mansion, the chef being a prime example

[@bunsolami]

There was an official vinyl release of the SM64 soundtrack with remixed, HQ versions of all the tracks. Subsequent re-releases of SM64 would use these versions over the originals. Edit: It was only released in Japan

[@Zinkolo]

24:02 This refers to the fact that you can shoot a blast shot when holding the R trigger all the way down with an element which costs 1 full part of the meter.

[@jasperraine6104]

As far as how the phone works, fun fact, most landline phones that don't require any external power source can still work when the power is out. I know this from experience. They probably get their electricity from somewhere else like the phone company, so as long as the phone lines aren't damaged, they'll still work.

[@Punykirby]

As a huge Luigi's Mansion fan I enjoyed this video alot, I knew a ton but also learned a ton Also 1:30:55 I believe E.Gadd can probably track the Gameboy Horror, as it clearly has a GPS system since it shows where Luigi is in real time

[@SpudMackenzie]

1:30:40 Landline telephones typically did continue to work during blackouts because they didn't get their electricity over the mains wiring, rather they were powered over the phone line by the phone operator which given's gadd's research he's probably set up his lab to do that.

[@ShyGuyXXL]

I never found the controls of the 3DS remake to be bad. On the contrary, the fact that you can hold a button to switch between sidestep mode and standard mode adds a ton of flexibility in the movement. Plus, there are gyro controls that let you easily aim up and down, which is very useful. The only downside is the lack of analog triggers, meaning you can only shoot your elemental attacks at a consistent rate.

[@YARGGG_GG]

51:33 regarding the lottery, king boo expressly calls the mario brothers gullible for believing they had won the mansion, so he definitely sent it to them.

[@nan0smm646]

Replying to the question at Minute 51:32 Personally i don't feel like Egadd orchestrated the whole plot of Luigi's Mansion by reviving King Boo (Tho Sunshine is entirely his fault). In the game it is said that the mansion is basically King Boo's plan to take revenge on both Mario, Luigi and Egadd all combined, Mario & Luigi most likely becouse of the multiple instances of Mario defeating him (It's not confirmed but i believe he's the Big Boo we fight on both SMW and Mario 64 since King Bob Omb is just referred as Big Bob Omb on the same game) and Egadd becouse he captured Boolossus just days prior. Egadd still is a neutral character tho, still felt like clarifying this point, good video still!

[@nan0smm646]

Also i believe all the portraid ghosts are strangers to each other aside from a few exceptions, all of them were captured by Egadd prior to the events of the game and King Boo freed them all after creating the mansion.

[@nan0smm646]

Also the fire tornado entry at 1:07:56 makes reference to an artwork of the game seen here: www.mariowiki.com/Gallery:Luigi%27s_Mansion#/media/File:Fire_Elemental_Medal_Luigi.jpg Luigi looks like he's making a fire tornado but it's more optical illusion than anything

[@JRS06]

I'm still not sure I believe Bowser Jr saying E.Gadd "gave" him the brush. Something tells me either he was disguised as Shadow Mario which fooled the elderly near-sighted E.Gadd into thinking he was giving the brush to Mario, or he didn't know who Bowser Jr was and thought he could be a good test subject.

[@esueijae8352]

​@JRS06 It makes sense, by the time of Luigi's mansion Mario was popular even among ghosts (the one with the crystal ball at least) but Eggad just describe him as red Luigi, if he doesn't know mario is possible he doesn't know Bowser either

[@shmak952]

1:07:56 "FIRE TORNADOES" I believe this is referring to the fact that, in the 3ds version, they added fire tornadoes that fly around in the background of the King Boo battle.

[@keeby4]

The fact that an early build was sold for that much money just for the guy who bought it not to share the findings is strange.

[@devanworkman8745]

If you share it, it'll lose most of it's value.

[@ricolantern]

@@devanworkman8745 Very true but sad nonetheless -- not because it loses value but because of all the potential undocumented differences that are put at risk of being lost forever just for the benefit of a sole, greedy scalper through a small profit.

[@ricolantern]

Allegedly the sold disc seems to be fake, according to a note on the hidden palace. It's fairly recent, so it's still in discussion...

[@weebsquit347]

The crow thing might be referencing Paper Mario TTYD. There are Crows in Twilight Town. If you use Vivian to hide, you can hear them banter. I think one of the crows mentions Luigi's Mansion.

[@Stroyoo_03]

I also heard that the game development was finished at 3 in the morning. I believe I heard it in a KZbin video decompiling the game, and the files show the last time major game files were edited was 3 AM in 2001

[@bird.brainsss]

that's so real tho

[@pepagaclap2504]

58:43 It's referring to the unused texture of a prototype GameCube found in the files. It's loaded during the boss fights for Chauncey and Bogmire and is likely a placeholder background during development

[@aurafox1]

While I don't doubt the Crows were just included in the intro to add to the spooky ambience, if you are looking for a more significant symbolic meaning to them, there is some substance to look a bit deeper into. Crows are often used as a symbol of death, as they are scavengers who eat dead animals. Their presence could be seen as foreshadowing of the fact that the mansion is filled with the ghosts of dead people, or that Luigi is following the map to what is supposed to be his death. Crows are also infamous for stealing shiny objects. That could also mean their presence foreshadows the vast amounts of gold and coins within the mansion. Lastly, crows are incredibly intelligent birds. Perhaps the crows already know what's going to happen?

[@jstr6522]

I think it's strange that one crow was clearly sad and the other angry. In the game there are 2 main ghosts that this boils down to, King Boo and van Gogh. Their personalities do match the birds too

[@shigerumiyamoto9612]

25:20 This is actually true. E Gadd specificially states at the end of the game when you insert the last ghosts in the lab that you did all of this in a single night.

[@sky8ash]

39:14 Something interesting is that both houses are missing the stone fence but comparing the two, the Mario Kart (Rank A) is more closer to it's buding desing then Dark Moon (Rank D) yet the Dark Moon (Rank D) is built on the ground simular to the original, unlike Mario Kart (Rank A)... Another possibility is that Luigi had enough for both the Rank A manison & the Rank D house (considering the Rank A different location). or another way to explain both mansion existing would be the Hidden Mansion. 42:20 Hold it for amoment, it was discovered in the code that multiplayer was actually being worked on in the original game (While it does cause some issues, it is still somewhat work) 50:30 has also happened in Mario Party & even Luigi Mansion 3 with him selling known haunted stuff

[@rydercanfield3721]

I think the abnormality in the Gallery Background music (1:07:25) is referring to either the weird distortions in the music, or towards the end of the track, you can hear what sounds like faint clacking and/or clattering.

[@ratmond406]

The Totaka's song segment near the beginning is incorrect. Not sure if it was an editing mistake, but you took the wrong part of the controller settings song, as the actual Totaka song shows up a little later in the section you used. You can hear the actual Totaka's song at 3:08.

[@Superstrike_11]

23:53 By clicking the triggers down all the way, you can shoot a blast of element. Very useful when fighting Boolossus.

[@happi-entity]

professor E. gadd directly states that it only took one night. it's been a while since i played it but according to the wiki the direct quote is "This'll mess with your head: All your hard work lasted only a single night! Well done, Luigi!"

[@xxroyalprincexx6811]

12:37 Something you missed out, if you don't come back to water the plant after defeating a boss ghost, it will wilt and die.

[@gmdblue]

Thanks I’m sad now. Poor plant

[@PortableProductions]

Mom come in here, new iceberg video just dropped thanks for the in detail credits, a lot of research done here, nice vid

[@gmdblue]

Hey! I thought about contacting you on discord to see if you were interested in proof watching the video, but I went ahead and released the video anyway. I'm glad to see that there's not that many things that were not inaccurate, but regardless of that I'm going to have a pinned comment with constantly updated context, like how you mentioned in your discord that the chandelier only drops before defeating Chauncey. I definitely should've known that. Glad you enjoyed the video though :D

[@motorwayt-s628]

1:18:40 I think this was a painting for one of the unused portrait ghosts I also wouldn’t be surprised if the “welcome welcome to” sound effect was intended to play on the title screen at some point

[@zekromfan1]

It’s worth noting in regards to the timeline placement theory, that in Mario & Luigi SuperStar Saga E Gadd makes a pretty notable appearance and references the events of Luigi’s Mansion. This game also prominently features Bowser (he is the final boss in a matter of speaking after all) and In Partners in Time E Gadd is literally the reason the plot of that game even happens at all. In Partners in Time we even get to meet a young E Gadd in the past studying Thwomps. Suffice it to say, Luigi’s Mansion can’t take place at the end of the timeline since the events of the games are referenced within it, and also Bowser is still alive in all of the occasions in which it is made reference.

[@supernintendo182]

Also in Sunshine the hotel owner talks about how he wishes someone could come and vacuum all of the ghosts inside, which apparently prompts a weird look from Mario ("Why are you looking at me like that?")

[@AlexSpherebob]

57:45 A "finished" version of this track actually appears in-game but it only appears during ONE dialogue so most players never get to hear it

[@AlexSpherebob]

It's also harder to hear because the finished track has random noises at the start and the song doesn't fully start into a few seconds in, so it's very possible that unless you purposefully don't hit A you will never hear the song

[@AlexSpherebob]

To be more specific, it appears when you woke him up but before you hit him with the bouncy ball toy

[@PixelOverload]

1:19:52 that's just a normal function of that style of flashlight btw

[@LotsofLatte]

Great video, as a massive Luigi's Mansion GCN enthusiast, it was great learning some things I actually didn't know somehow. I also gotta say, the audio cues were a very nice touch. The way you would segue showcasing a song into it being the bgm track, or subtly changing the bgm after showing a song or sound was a great change of pace and probably one of the most unique qualities i've seen in an iceberg video, since most of them just tend to stick with one bgm per layer. Fantastic editing choice.

[@blomborg6120]

The phone still working through a blackout makes perfect sense. When I was a kid growing up and we still had a house phone hooked into the telephone wires, the electricity for all the lights and utilities could go out due to a storm but you could still use the telephones.

[@jasonramirez1064]

15:00 "And I don't think there's much to say here" you could've mentioned that the Mansion can actually be destroyed by the players, and after a bit the Mansion reforms

[@erinbo1605]

In Chuggaaconroy's splatoon 2 series, i remember him mentioning that a commenter told him about the Nintendo power issue talking about the ghost. As he was a much younger youtuber at the time, he took the commenter at fave value.

[@adenbaden315]

I remember seeing the beta Luigi's Mansion game over screen and being so terrified of it that I tried to play it, but ended up just staring at the console menu for about an hour because I was so scared that it was still in the game Also, I'm pretty sure I know why the Sitting Room is so unsettling. The room is designed more like an actual room in a house rather than a game level, and that makes it strangely nostalgic, especially with the flower wallpaper and couches being something you would find in, say, a grandparent's house. This nostalgia is warped by the overall creepy nature of the game, the graphics that remind you it isn't real, and the ghosts in the room.

[@maestro9765]

The Sitting Room has no 'aura' at all to me. I don't get it, at all. It's a bit out of place because of how colorful it is, but that's not creepy. I could probably think of 15 rooms that are more unsettling than the sitting room. It's one of the most average rooms in the game, aside from the Anteroom.

[@KirbyProductions]

33:11 it uses OG LM1’s renders on the back of the 3DS box art

[@c63655]

I just thought of a theory of what elh could've been. I think he may have been like a reoccurring miniboss. And if you beat him, you'd unlock one of the elemental powers. I mean, his name is elh. It could very well stand for something like "Elemental Hazard" or something. Which would fit his file name sounding like an obvious placeholder. And with those unused cores, it could've been a way to show which element attack he was going to use, or which one you'd unlock. And perhaps since he has elemental attacks, maybe he started fighting you by swinging his arms at you, before then using elemental attacks after you damage him a certain amount by what I think would require you to try and pull his core out of his body. And when you beat him, the core would shatter and the elemental medal would drop. As for him rising out of the ground, perhaps once you clear a certain room or some other criteria is met, he'd appear and attack you. And it's up to you to defeat him so you can get the elemental power needed to progress. But that's just my theory though. I could be completely wrong, or I could be completely right. I guess none of us will ever know for certain.

[@jstr6522]

I assumed he was designed to be a tree monster, specifically to be seen when you travel back and forth between EGads latter area that got cut

[@wyattskinner697]

I have a theory about the mansion being burned down. The background of the King Boo fight shows the mansion when it was burning down. The graveyard is where the people living there were buried, and it’s next to the mansion because they valued it so much that they never wanted to leave, not even when they were dead. It’s also why the mansion isn’t real, it’s been burned, and the version we see in-game was a twisted recreation made by the ghosts.

[@UnTalCoto]

Damm, I really like how Luigi’s Mansion is too free for interpretation

[@supernintendo182]

That was pretty much my thinking.

[@user-Tod-The-Toadster]

That's kinda exactly what the game is telling you, it's not even a theory. Shivers was likely the one who started the fire (if accidentally) and wasn't able to escape it, the rest of the family that was living there likely pass (like Sue Pea) during the fire not to mention that the Mansion being gone once you finish the game gives evidence that it's been destroyed at some point (which is how some ghosts and their rooms that should be long gone are in the mansion)

[@crudmuffin64]

1:10:23 When you think about it, it's not totally unfounded that Luigi could see lightning from every room in the mansion, assuming the whole building is an illusion. However, given the history of stuff in the mansion, namely the portrait ghosts, it's hard to know for sure whether the mansion truly is an illusion. E. Gadd doesn't really seem like the most trustworthy guy, and if I remember correctly it's only him that claims the mansion is an illusion. Regardless, it's interesting to think about, although it's probably just an oversight by the devs.

[@nonnoumby]

IIRC before they turn Mario back EGadd mentions that the mansion disappeared after King Boo was captured, and that's why they used the money to build an actual mansion for Luigi, confirming it was an illusion all along.

[@sommer1380]

Fun fact : In the save select screen there's a counter indicating how many times you beat the game. It can reach up to 99 and doesn't change if you beat the game again.

[@shadethewolfjacobs]

1:09:25 When I was a kid playing TTYD I’ve seen Luigi wearing his poltergust 3000 twice. It’s a great Easter egg and very rare. Once during a fight with Doopliss and another time during the Shadow Queen fight but not in the same playthrough of the game. I played TTYD way too many times.

[@maestro9765]

The game's development date can be found by analyzing the ROM file. That's how they found out that the japanese version was complete at 3 am. It's the same as when you right click on a file on your computer and it shows you the date it was last edited.

[@onerian8178]

about the phones working during the blackout, landlines dont use electricity from the house its directly through the telephone lines

[@flux8815]

43:39 a piss stained Luigi's mansion shirt or a copy of the game? real hard choice here...

[@facebooktweeter4948]

That’s a players guide of luigis mansion, not a copy of the game itself…

[@MullyWhizz]

Awesome video! I think the background noise in the Gallery Music is the machine that creates the paintings. Compare it to the cutscenes where E Gadd makes the paintings, I think its similar. Also, I think the "Weird Noise" in Toad's theme is where there is no melody, it sounds like someone moving a chair and it squeaks. The sound is only there for a moment but a few times.

[@robonaught]

"Can you think of a Mario game that doesn't have Bowser in it?" Um? Super Mario Land 1 & 2?

[@watermaster5154]

True, but those are actuall also theorized to be long after bowser is gone 😂 Hence why Mario is going for Daisy, cause Peach is safe and secure now. And probably taken, people believe by luigi and they have Rosalina, but who knows. Those are all theories.

[@robonaught]

@@watermaster5154 Never heard of that theory so it doesn't count in my eyes. Also this theory makes no sense anyway. How can SML1 & 2 be set way after Bowser is dead when characters like Daisy and Wario appear in games which have Bowser clearly alive? Wario is even in the DS remake of 64 which i'm pretty sure that game would take place way after SML2 after Wario went through character development.

[@GreenGuyGeno]

Elemental Blast refers to a hidden mechanic where if you lightly press L, then press it all the way down quickly (or simply tap it hard), Luigi will shoot an elemental projectile that hits all enemies in its path. This mechanic is never explained in the game. Doing this uses up a lot of elemental charge, though. This is extremely helpful versus Boolossus because the ice projectile freezes Boos from afar, since they always try to fly away if you get too close.

[@WallopWannabe]

0:00 My favorite fun fact is that Luigi’s Mansion released in NA (alongside the GameCube hardware) three days after 9-11.

[@gdplayer19]

1:31:03 Maybe the GBH and the poltergust send signals to E. Gadd's lab, like modern tracking devices, just to keep check on Luigi.

[@supernintendo182]

Regarding the whole "Bowser is dead and Luigi's Mansion takes place at the end of the timeline" theory, it's established that Mario Sunshine takes place after Luigi's Mansion, where Mario apparently gives a funny look to a hotel janitor who wishes someone would vacuum up all of the ghosts in the hotel, implying that Luigi's Mansion happened before. Regarding King Boo wanting to pay back the Bros. for "causing so much trouble for him", he could be referring to the many times the Bros. fought the Boos like in 3, World, and 64. Or if we're to take 64 DS as canon where Mario actually gets to fight King Boo, he could be referring to that (unlikely since LM1 came before DS). I wonder if the line "I thought Mario had soundly defeated Bowser!" was added in to poke fun at the notion that Bowser always inexplicably manages to return to cause more trouble, no matter how many times he gets dunked in lava or falls from a deadly height or is thrown into bombs. One console generation later he is sent flying towards the sun and literally one cutscene later he's monologuing about how he lost.

[@Marchingvenusaur]

Luigi with shoelaces is so cursed.

[@-mp64-56]

49:41 any of yall can mentally rotate a tomato like this?

[@RainyWolf7]

I want to know, do you hear the strange noises in toad's theme aswell? It's kinda hard to forget after I heard it

[@purplemist7]

It was a pleasant surprise to come across a new iceberg video about a game I love. Thank you!

[@QuintetMagician]

Yay! Needed something like this to pick me up after work. Luigi’s Mansion is one of my favorite games, and seeing all this new stuff I’ve never heard about is so cool! I had no idea you could burn down the fake doors!!!

[@Pizza_Ant]

29:26 part of the voice clip actually got used for a trailer of the 3ds remake, although it still remained unused in that version of the game

[@thoracis]

33:27 » “The model looks like these things from Lego Star Wars.” » I love the innocence. The are super battle droids, also in the movies. /g ❤

[@jackxxdoa2803]

I don’t think E.Gadd watching Luigi is as sinister as it sounds. I believe E.Gadd tracks Luigi’s progress and location throughout the mansion using the Gameboy Horror. It likely has some on board gps system, not to mention there is a map of the mansion programed into the GBH that the player can make use of as well, which just so happens to constantly track Luigi’s position. I believe it is plausible that E.Gadd has access to this information as well. The GBH also tracks things like money and the portrait ghosts Luigi has caught.

[@nonnoumby]

Great video, I would like to add another entry to the Iceberg since zi always found it funny: In the Italian boxart, one of the selling points talks about the ghost Ciro (a common italian name), but in the game there is no ghost named Ciro. It is believed that it was a early name for Ombretta (Bogmire's italian name and means Small Shadow) since Bogmire is the ghost shown in the screenshot with that caption. And I also don't think this mistake was ever fixed even in subsequent reprints of the game, like the Player's Choice edition

[@That_Guy3604]

The Bowser death theory is a good one but it's been confirmed that the Paper Mario world is separate from the mainline universe, and quite literally is within a storybook. Most likely King Boo is referring to his time as Big Boo in SM64 and Super Mario World when he's saying the Mario Bros gave him trouble before. And at this point Bowser has been dead multiple times before so he still very much could've been dead but just not from Paper Mario.

[@daevidpp445]

This guy sounds like Badger from Breaking Bad, soothing enough to sleep to this video 🙏

[@Mr.SnekMeister]

The CreepyPasta about the King Boo and Bowser theory was always the reason why I believed it and excluding the Mario 64 and Paper Mario bits, in Luigi's Mansion, it pretty much makes sense. When talking to Madam Clairvoya, I think about the star, Clairvoya says she sees a "hideous" form of Bowser and of course the final boss battle where King Boo is basically using Bowser's corpse. Discounting the spin-off version the only time we see King Boo (gem crown) Bowser is never seen in the same place, it's only the gemless King Boo.

[@TheManOfManyNames.]

Side note on the S-Rank: said rank is only obtainable by completing the Hidden Mansion, along with the money requirement.

[@maddosshmillore]

Fantastic video, I was hoping for today to be a productive day with sitting down to get some homework done, but as soon as I saw my Iceberg in a video I knew I had to sit down and watch it immediately Never thought something I worked on in between my High School classes would be turned into an hour-long video. When I finished this Iceberg in 2022, I had actually started writing a script for a video explaining it, but I never finished it with finishing High School and now starting College. But now I can put that idea to rest seeing as someone made it. Still in awe Though that being said, I really didn't think someone was gonna make a video explaining it, I've been meaning to go back and add a few things that I had learned, but more importantly, make it more professional by adding more explanation to the entries and deleting a few. I'm a Luigi's Mansion 1 superfan and there were many iceberg charts of it but none of them had a full list of most of the game's knowledge. All had scatter shots of info when I was like "What about this?" Not only that but I wanted to add a few entries that I had seen nowhere or no one was talking about. I would have loved to help you with this video, and explain a few things/had my input A few times I was like "No no, you had it right the first time" or "Yep you got it, even though I didn't provide an explanation on site. (Which I'd been meaning to do lol) My Twitter and Instagram are both also Maddosshmillmore. I'd love to talk about this experience and explain entries that may got misunderstood. Will check out the rest of your channel, love Iceberg videos :)

[@gmdblue]

If you want to talk on discord, you can add me there!

[@JaneGirlGamer]

Funny thing, as a kid I always misinterpreted Mario saying “Hey Luigi, What’s the hold up.” as “Hey Luigi, It’s John Travolta.”

[@Zirexeny]

I would have never expected Winnie the Pooh explaining to me an iceberg chart, no but seriously good video keep up !

[@Wandergirl108]

In regards to "E. Gadd repeating lines", I THINK it might be that his SPOKEN dialogue, the weird gibberish he talks in, repeats a set few sound bytes, rather than being unique to each line. To be honest, I could never tell if it was all a sort of garbled nonsense version of what he was actually saying (a la Klonoa) or a few repeated sound bytes, so I'm taking this as an answer to that question.

[@JRS06]

Cool video. You're becoming one of the best Mario-based channels on KZbin.

[@CrazyKoopaTroopaCKT]

*and Geometry Dash!

[@mina7572]

This is so cozy to watch as I go to sleep

[@kathleensnyder23]

The squealing noise in the background during section 4 is driving me absolutely NUTS

[@divineblue15]

Pikmin Iceberg when?

[@cookiescream8628]

Seeing a lot of commnets about incorrect things and missing details. One thing I noticed that this video failed to mention is that Totaka's Song was originally going to be one of the questions that would appear during the musical quiz for Melody, I'll be it very rarely. I'm pretty sure this came from a DYKG video on LM. From the clip it appears that Luigi had to actually guess the correct spelling of Totaka's Song instead of guessing the name of the song and game like you usually do.

[@KatFisherMen]

I love this game to death and studied every small detail for a year or more by now, you nailed (almost) everything

[@kieranlazurko]

It is directly said by Egadd at the end that it only lasted one night and how crazy that is

[@skapokonroll]

The book being named Mario Story could also be a reference to the Japanese name to the first Paper Mario game, which was called Mario Story

[@user-Tod-The-Toadster]

1:16:32 my personal theory for this is that it's Sue Pea's gravestone and it probably says something like "died of an unknown cause in her sleep" and Luigi is just commenting on the fact that you can't plan for a sudden death (it could also be a shoddy grave/grave stone which mentions the owner's sudden death, which could have inspired Luigi's quote, seeing the shoddy work and assuming the family had to scamble to put together a grave)

[@NintegaDario]

I absolutely loved this video, Luigi's Mansion Beta material is some of the most interesting things to exist in gaming history.

[@Number8Entertainment]

Just found your channel a few weeks ago. So glad I did. Keep up the good work! 😊

[@cryptidcloud]

1:07:25 holy shit im so glad that last layer is over. the shimmering sound in the last song was HORRENDOUS

[@Elgi72]

1:14:27 Dont forget how toad opens up all the locked doors while running around all the rooms.

[@Wario_B]

30:04 My best guess would be cuz the crows quack like ducks but it could be anything honestly

[@chocov1233]

5:43 - I thought this part of the iceberg was taking about how some say that Luigi's Mansion was supposed to have a time limit like Pikmin or Dead Rising. Edit: 1:17:00 - Oh. Nevermind. (Halo time)

[@Super_Top_Secret_Area]

E. Gadd certainly has been living in the woods since he was a young adult. That was explained in Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time. At one point, his younger self becomes interested in researching the paranormal and you know what happens after. Also, he seemingly gets his funding from Starbeans Cafe, his own coffee company in the BeanBean Kingdom.

[@Campingcam]

Bowser Jr. is definitely not a reliable narrator and stole the brush

[@Flare8295]

I'm at the point where either Shivers died from a fire or the outcome of Melody Pianissima not returning his affections likely caused him to be driven insane so much so that he killed himself

[@zekromfan1]

1:02:16 I think you misunderstand what “FMV” means, the acronym stands for “Full Motion Video” IE: pre rendered cutscenes, not something that’s being rendered ingame.