SKS Myth, Yugo best quality vs. Russian & Chinese. M59/66A1.

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Gnutzguy

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@dangerousfreedom4965
@dangerousfreedom4965 4 жыл бұрын
I love the way you say yoga- slovian
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy 4 жыл бұрын
thats a mouthful, lol.
@Jugoslavija
@Jugoslavija 4 жыл бұрын
@@gnutzguy it's allright dude
@Jugoslavija
@Jugoslavija 4 жыл бұрын
@@gnutzguy but it's yu-go-slavian not yo-gu-slovian xD had a giggle listening the way you pronounce it. It's all good. Nice content.
@wordupmybrotha
@wordupmybrotha 3 жыл бұрын
Haha. I was just about to post the same thing. Those Slavs like doing yoga, I guess.
@utahraptor4729874
@utahraptor4729874 3 жыл бұрын
It’s like You-go
@-Zevin-
@-Zevin- Жыл бұрын
You seem to be misunderstanding quality of steel in some of the comments. Rusting can be a sign of better quality steel, this means it has a higher carbon content. This is equally true in knives and swords. Higher carbon means you have greater toughness and hardness in tempering. Greater toughness and hardness means less deformation and wear, It's a tradeoff. If you have ever had a high quality Japanese chef knife they will rust in hours if you don't wipe them off and oil them. There is always a tradeoff, chrome plating barrels significantly reduces corrosion, and considering most if not all period ammunition was corrosive that is important. However if you clean the gun within hours of use it's not really a issue, but it has to remain liberally oiled at all times. Another important distinction about chrome lined barrels versus non chrome lining, as I said, everything is a tradeoff. Non-chrome lined barrels are more accurate weapons; this is a objective fact on all rifles, not really something that is debated. Chrome lining inherently limits your minute of angle accuracy, as the chrome is a softer material that fills in the rifling partially. For most militaries this is a worthwhile tradeoff because it can still be accurate enough to hit a man sized target at 200-400 yards, as it was pretty standard even for early AR to shoot in the 4MOA range. Less accurate may be a totally reasonable compromise for a military to make in favor of greater reliability and less maintenance, however for a Civilian shooter in particular one may favor accuracy and rifling quality over chrome lining. The takeaway here that people need to understand is rusting doesn't mean a rifle is worse, nor does a highly rust resistant stainless steel weapon mean it's better. Most stainless steels are on the very soft side. Nor is a chrome lined barrel "better" *everything is a compromise.*
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
there are no proof of better steel used but for argument sake let's say they did. high carbon steel will still rust and it will cause pitting. pitting increases friction, friction causes more heat. more friction and more heat causes the bore to wear out faster therefore reducing accuracy. besides why does yugo sks needs to be more accurate than other sks? it is not a sniper rifle. i was in the military too and not all soldier are diligent on properly cleaning their rifles.
@-Zevin-
@-Zevin- Жыл бұрын
@@gnutzguy You would have to be exceptionally negligent to let corrosion reach the point of pitting. Even in the first or second world war (besides some areas of Stalingrad) front line troops were not in contact with the enemy for days on end, usually mere hours. Running a patch down the barrel takes how long? You also speak of your experience in the military. Did you ever stop to think that in a country that had non chrome lined barrels that would have had more strict regulations and training regarding cleaning rifles? Were you a soldier in Yugoslavia? It's not that chrome lining is inherently a bad thing, but it *is* a tradeoff. You say "why does yugo sks needs to be more accurate than other sks? it is not a sniper rifle." Are you seriously trying to make a argument that more accuracy isn't a benefit? Even if we are talking about the difference between 4moa and 2 that's a appreciable difference to any trained soldier shooting out to the effective range of a SKS. Is it going to make the difference hitting a center of mass shot on target at 200 meters? Probably not, but it could make the difference between hitting or missing someone in the head or in partial cover. More accuracy is never a bad thing... You act as if for hundreds of years everyone's firearms must have had deep pits in them in 24 hours because they didn't have chrome technology yet. 🤦
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
i hope are not saying the accuracy difference between chrome and non-chrome is 2moa? hundreds of years? hello , corrosive ammo hasnt been around hundreds of years. anyhow, if high quality steel has so many benefits then why did Yugo switched to chrome in the 1970s? see link: www.sksboards.com/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=61pvjofqq1qepe8idgut97cco6&topic=25489.0 "I wrote to Mr.Branko Bogdanovic , asking him what was the reason why Yugo sks were chromeless. For those that don’t know who he is, Branko is THE leading authority on all Yugoslavian weapons, and also Kragujevac factory historian. Of course, Kragujevac is the one and only Yugo factory that produced small arms in Yugo. His response: The technology for producing chrome and nickel existed in Slovenia’s steel mills ( one of the former Yugo republics, now independent state) in 1950. But, technology of actually applying hard chrome in barrels, began after1970 in Kragujevac factory. First chrome barrels were produced in M70 automatic rifles ( Yugo Kalashnikovs), and Yugo automatic pistols Skorpion 7.62 mm M84 ( Czech scorpion M61)"
@-Zevin-
@-Zevin- Жыл бұрын
​@@gnutzguy You have a habit of saying some incrediblely odd things. "corrosive ammo hasn't been around hundreds of years." You heard it here first folks, black powder isn't corrosive, don't clean your muzzle loaders... 🤦 Then you make an argument for points I never made... Do quote me where I said Yugoslavia chose to not chrome their barrels for accuracy. I agree that Yugoslavia didn't chrome barrels because they lacked chromium natural resources. I never disputed this or pointed it out in the first place. I simply pointed out, quality high carbon steel rusts more readily than non high carbon steel, chrome lined barrels aren't inherently better, and inherently sacrifice accuracy for reliability and rust resistance, there is always tradeoffs and compromises with such technologies. These are all objective factual statements. Your counter arguments aren't even directed at anything I specifically said.. Other than the 2moa difference in accuracy which was a hypothetical example. Regardless of what the MOA difference there is, it is in-fact measurable, that is my point.. Chrome lining is a choice which is a reasonable choice to make in a military setting (which I said in my original comment), but it also isn't as big of a deal as is assumed either, most weapons in WW2 also lacked chrome lined barrels including the M1 Garand. The variability in accuracy would most likely be determined by ammo quality over chrome lining.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
@@-Zevin- i'm odd, thats funny. 1. when an experience person like myself say corrosive ammo, we mean corrosive primers, its the primer thats corrosive not the gun powder. so why are you talking about black powder and muzzle loader? lol. so primer has NOT been around for hundreds of years. that was my point. 2. you are asking me to quote you for something i didnt say either. you jumped to conclusion from the link. my original point was there is no proof Yugo used better steel. even if they did, the benefit doesnt out weight the negatives and thats why the M70 switched to chromes in the 1970s. those are my points. 3. you said " I agree that Yugoslavia didn't chrome barrels because they lacked chromium natural resources." i'm saying you are wrong because Yugo does have chrome. please read the link. www.photius.com/countries/serbia_and_montenegro/economy/yugoslavia_former_economy_energy_and_mineral_r~11882.html "Kosovo also supplied a substantial part of Yugoslav chrome."
@MW-xm1rc
@MW-xm1rc 2 ай бұрын
I used the Chinese SKS as my deer hunting rifle for years, it was accurate and had good knock down power. And it only cost $100!!!
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy 2 ай бұрын
@@MW-xm1rc yup, they are good for deer hunting. Only $100? you had her long time ago.
@dennisyoung4631
@dennisyoung4631 15 күн бұрын
About 30 years ago. Briefly had one. These things *fling* their brass bad, so reloading can be an issue if you can find reloadable cases.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy 15 күн бұрын
Surplus ammo are cheap so no need to reload.
@dennisyoung4631
@dennisyoung4631 15 күн бұрын
@@gnutzguy uh, back then (early nineties) surplus was all FMJ. If one wished ammunition for *hunting* - then one paid a lot more, or one needed to reload. I did the latter for pretty much everything I had.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy 14 күн бұрын
So true.
@useryggfdcc
@useryggfdcc 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent job describing the different versions of the SKS.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy 4 жыл бұрын
Many thanks!
@MayumiC-chan9377
@MayumiC-chan9377 8 ай бұрын
My husband owns 2 Yugo sks and he calls them “back when they were 60$ each at Big 5 sports store”. He refuses to sell them because the prices ballooned over the years. He brought both in 2002 and they are tip top shape free of cosmoline and revarnished wood stocks. he still loves the stripper clips
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy 8 ай бұрын
thats a super deal, i dont recall them being that low in 2002. your husband is a wise man. every sks i've sold in the past i regretted it.
@MayumiC-chan9377
@MayumiC-chan9377 8 ай бұрын
@@gnutzguy they are such fun rifles, I’m from Japan and i married my husband in 2012 and he taught me to properly use firearms and the SKS,Ak and Ar-15 was my first rifles my husband exposed to me and i love all of them. Only rifle i am not a fan of is the 7.62x51/.308 G3 and FN Fals too heavy for me. Took time for me to learn how to properly load the sks from stripper clips needed to get a little stronger.
@haroldbell213
@haroldbell213 8 ай бұрын
I have some as well and yes the prices went way up. Got 6 for 100 a piece. Wish I would have bought 20
@malcolmfield6677
@malcolmfield6677 Жыл бұрын
Some years ago I purchased a brand new Russian SKS and have fired it. It still appears as new and is really beautiful.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
nice. i wont fire my unissued russian bcos i've another, lol
@Andrew-Locksley691
@Andrew-Locksley691 9 ай бұрын
That Russian one is stunning !The wood is absolutely gorgeous!My first gun I bought was an SKS sporter by Norinco, I traded it for a NHM 91,also by Norinco still have it in the original box never fired it.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy 9 ай бұрын
thanks for sharing.
@WesternAmerican2
@WesternAmerican2 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed the SKS from Yugoslavia ,very nice and beautiful and when you shoot it gives you the feeling like you are shooting with Sniper just the way how it makes the noise.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
sniper? really. i find the front end heavy.
@xtremefight
@xtremefight Жыл бұрын
I owned a crate of each back in the 80's and agree with your assessment. The only difference, and this is a personal preference, is that I really liked the furniture on the Yugo.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
but the yugo dropped the ball by not putting proper coat on the wood. Coating with oil attract dirt which forced me to redo the wood otherwise I would agree with you.
@hoteltesla
@hoteltesla 10 ай бұрын
Very interesting video. A small correct ion - Soviet military doctrine assumed SKS to be a weapon of a more accurate soldier, while AK-47 was to add volume of shooting. Then they found that AK was not significantly worse than SKS, so they simplified the use. At the same time, they also found that RPD was slightly better than RPK, so they also eliminated a machine gun with a different design. And then they developed PK, also on Kalashnikov mechanics. This a major benefit for a conscript army because you teach only one mechanism (and we studied Kalashnikov at schools) instead of 4-5 different mechanisms: SKS, portable machine gun, company machine gun, automatic rifle , sniper rifle
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy 10 ай бұрын
interesting. thanks for sharing.
@vinceruland9236
@vinceruland9236 Жыл бұрын
I have a nearly mint condition Norinco. Made for the civilian market only, but I don't see where that matters outside of collectability. I stripped the stain and clear off the stock and put several coats of oil on it to keep the natural look.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
i redid my yugo. see result in this vid. kzbin.infoTmMv2IAAUAE
@beefestrogen5276
@beefestrogen5276 11 ай бұрын
Also a little known fact, that paint on the flip up grenade launcher sight is usually made with RADIUM as a cheap way to create night sights on the Yugo SKS's
@FoneStar78
@FoneStar78 Жыл бұрын
Here in Canada, the Russian ones are cheap and the Yugoslavian ones are expensive. The Chinese ones look "cheaper" but my most accurate SKS was Chinese too.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
yugo are more expensive only bcos its rarer.
@MarkHurlow-cf2ix
@MarkHurlow-cf2ix 2 ай бұрын
In the 1980’s I bought cases of them for $45 each. All used but in excellent condition. I owned many kinds and sold ammo for them. I sold them as cheap deer rifles. I liked the Russian SKS but they all were great guns. People would break them and I would do small repairs but 99.99% never had a problem.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy 2 ай бұрын
$45? those were the days. i wish i bought a couple of crates,
@jrwatkins3872
@jrwatkins3872 Жыл бұрын
5 ROUNDS? Canada! 10 rounds in US.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
yup, silly gun law up here.
@a.americandad3885
@a.americandad3885 Жыл бұрын
Detachable mag conversion is the more American approach.
@danielk8149
@danielk8149 Жыл бұрын
Lol Canadians can still use bean flips I think .😂🤫
@reddeadren351c8
@reddeadren351c8 Жыл бұрын
Max
@dstuart76
@dstuart76 Жыл бұрын
I can't speak for the Russian or Chinese models, but my Yugo SKS is absolutely amazing. I've had it for 20 years and it still fires like the day I first got it.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
unfortunately. no chrome bore so barrel will wear out sooner.
@wilshirewarrior2783
@wilshirewarrior2783 Жыл бұрын
How old a firearm is has little to do with how it fires…actually nothing to do with how it fires
@jrwatkins3872
@jrwatkins3872 Жыл бұрын
The Russian SKS is superb!
@henryc7548
@henryc7548 Жыл бұрын
@@gnutzguy would I be correct to assume that because 7.62 is a slow round that barrel life is pretty good with even mediocre materials?
@greenman7yyy
@greenman7yyy 11 ай бұрын
Hello, I do not know your native language but your English is very good. Thank you for taking the time , showing your passion to compare these 3 varieties of this historical war weapon. I am both impressed and sad that you have never fired your Soviet SKS; I posses Yugo that has never been fired, I'm on the fence as to whether or not i want to be the first one to offer that pleasure to another shooter. This of course depends on all the new reduculous gun control laws. Thank you again for your genuine love and review of these time capsule firearms.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy 11 ай бұрын
lol, i dont know you. perhaps you know someone who know me. if you know me you then you would know i'd over a dozen russian sks that i shot. i chose THIS russian bcos i wanted to show what a prestine one looks like.
@MaverickCompany
@MaverickCompany 4 жыл бұрын
Good side by side comparison especially during disassembled section.. should answer alot of questions for some people 👍
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
Thanks and thanks for watching.
@AlexanderEddy
@AlexanderEddy 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the overview, the SKS has really become a Canadian classic
@CovenantElite1117
@CovenantElite1117 3 жыл бұрын
The SKS will liberate Canada
@AlexanderEddy
@AlexanderEddy 3 жыл бұрын
@@CovenantElite1117 Behind every blade of grass
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@brooksjalen4466 3 жыл бұрын
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@arturosteven1006
@arturosteven1006 3 жыл бұрын
@Brooks Jalen Instablaster ;)
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@brooksjalen4466 3 жыл бұрын
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@Dufoth
@Dufoth 2 жыл бұрын
I have a yugo, all original, I love it.
@davidjuhas5871
@davidjuhas5871 Жыл бұрын
The original Yugoslavian sks had 10 rounds for storage and one more in the barrel, a total of 11 ... at least as far as I know, because I used it in the army, and then I borrowed an ak 47 or rather a Yugoslav ak 47 (M70) everything that is less than 10 rounds it was not intended for the army ... GREETINGS FROM JNA
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
yes, mine is a 10 rds mag but is limited to 5. our stupid gun law.
@marks1638
@marks1638 Жыл бұрын
Picked up a very nice Chinese SKS back in the early 90's at a gun show for $150. It's unusual as it has two stock cross pins (one below the rear sight and one just below the rear of the receiver. Dating (from reading several websites as my Chinese isn't very good) seems to be late military issue (possibly ceremonial) and goes back to pre 80's before they would have been able to sell it on the American gun market. Solidly made, excellent accuracy at 200 yards with a bolt cover mounted scope (I added). I've never had an issue with it. It's never slam fired, malfunctioned, or had any broken parts. Wood is nice, a light blond color, and it's well fitted to the receiver. I must have gotten lucky. A friend (many, many years ago) had a Russian SKS bring back from Vietnam and was firing on an Air Force range noticing it was going full auto occasionally on him. It you pull the trigger part way back it fired a single round. If you pulled the trigger all the way back to the stop it went full auto. Our gunsmith's dissembled it and discovered it had a modified trigger mechanism that allowed semi and auto by pulling the trigger as I mentioned. I found a reference to full SKS's in my extensive gun library in an old Russian firearms publication. They had experimented with full auto SKS's back in the 50's (with an adapted AK magazine) as a stop gap measure before the AK's became widely available (early AK-47's were machine milled and difficult to make in large numbers until they mastered stamped metal pressings in the AKM series in the late 50's). The modification was well designed and made out of machined parts. It was either the Russian mod or something someone designed and made in China or Vietnam before putting out it into the field. We put a normal SKS trigger mechanism into it for him and the parts went into gunsmith shop's historical collection for future reference.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
very interest story. i havent seen a chinese stock with two cross pins before, only on the russians
@marks1638
@marks1638 Жыл бұрын
@@gnutzguy Finally figured out when and where it was made at a site that had updated Chinese serial numbers. My gun is a Factory 26 SKS made with a Russian style factory stock in 1965 (9,000,000 plus) serial number with the 五六式 stamp. Why a Russian factory stock? I don't know as they said that they broke up with the Russians in 1960. They may have been still making it in the Russian style and I got one of those SKS's. As I said it's military grade and a great shooter. They did a good job making the early SKS's before the whole export model thing, which I think unfairly gave the Chinese SKS a bad rap. I've seen and helped work on some those post 86 SKS's and a lot are badly built, fitted, and untrustworthy to shoot. I did note one thing, military post 1988 guns were made to accept AK Magazines. I think they got the idea from the Russians, but didn't standardize AK mag SKS's till much later. Several SKS's I've seen imported in the late 80's where made to handle AK Mags and were later banned for import after 1994.
@samjohnson9894
@samjohnson9894 11 ай бұрын
In the Soviet SKS world, the two stock pins meant the stock is a laminate stock. My '51 Tula is so equipped. A single stock pin is a real wood stock. Which is what I wish mine had. lol
@Batko10
@Batko10 Жыл бұрын
About 15 years ago I picked up a gorgeous YUGO M59 SKS (original version without the grenade launcher). I'll match my M59 to the Russian or Chinese SKS any day. Zastava makes the best rifles in the world, bar none. Tula may have the reputation, but the 170 year old Zastava Arms Plant is just as good, if not better.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
But you are comparing your m59 to your Russian. Compare it to mine and it would be a different story, my Russian is unissued and unfired. Btw, my Russian was built in Tula arsenal which was built 313 years ago, I'm just saying, lol.
@Batko10
@Batko10 Жыл бұрын
@@gnutzguy I'm comparing the Yugo M59 in general to other SKS rifles - NOT mine in particular. I'm a big fan of Tula and Izhevsk Armories. I have a 1968 Izrhevsk AK, a couple of Tula Armory Mosin rifles, and a Soviet Nagant revolver with Tula markings and date stamp. However, in my opinion, the Serbian Zastava Armory is on par with Tula and Izhevsk. BTW, my M59 was in unissued and unfired condition.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
@@Batko10 so you werent comparing your gorgeous yugo to an unissued Russians bcos unissued Russians in the US are not common (in the hands of collectors), unlike in canada.
@georgedykes5533
@georgedykes5533 Ай бұрын
I have all three. Like all of them. From a combat perspective, the rougher the wooden stock the better for grip in all climate conditions.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Ай бұрын
yeah but we arent in combat, lol. i prefer my wood stock not beaten to HELL, lol.
@thinkformyself69
@thinkformyself69 10 ай бұрын
Owned a Vietnam bring back for many years.accurate and reliable with all sorts of ammunition.I would trust this carbine in most any situation.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy 10 ай бұрын
sweet, do you still own it?
@thinkformyself69
@thinkformyself69 10 ай бұрын
Yes!
@ktotheswiss1617
@ktotheswiss1617 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 1952 sks, I love it.
@Gator-357
@Gator-357 Жыл бұрын
Both of mine are Tula rifles and have operatee flawlessly for 40 years and the fit and finnish is excellent on them both. One is a '53 and the other is a '54 from what I know.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@EdTheMole
@EdTheMole 4 жыл бұрын
I have 3 SKS rifles at one time I bought them to give as gifts One to each of my sons I found the milling especially that of the top cover to be quite poor. The area where the front edge of the top cover met with the receiver was cut unevenly which made for a lot of rattling. I did finally get rid of the rattling but I had to buy replacement top covers that happily came too long so I could hand fit them for each gun. I did give them the original top covers so they still had matching numbers but that was when SKS,s sold for about 75 to 80 dollars. Wish I could still get them for that price lol.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy 4 жыл бұрын
for clarification, yugo sks top cover didnt fit?
@LarryGarcia-p3j
@LarryGarcia-p3j 3 ай бұрын
I have owned both Cinese and Russian. In my opinion the Russian is far better than my previous 2 chinese models l previously owned.
@tommyspann9740
@tommyspann9740 Жыл бұрын
I've had several SKS rifles, both Russian and Chinese. None were butchered with the 5 round blocking. I wouldn't own one that was. My Russian had the blade bayonet, one of the Chinese had the spike type. All of mine were from the 50's. The Russian was the best.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing but Chinese made spike after the mid 60s.
@tommyspann9740
@tommyspann9740 Жыл бұрын
@@gnutzguy Ok. I wasn't sure about the date of the Chinese spiker. One of them had the blade type.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
@@tommyspann9740 no worries
@باقرالزيادي-ر2غ
@باقرالزيادي-ر2غ 6 ай бұрын
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@mariumrajah
@mariumrajah 9 ай бұрын
If there only one gun I have to choose It will be one of these models Any will do. Excellent weapon
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy 9 ай бұрын
yup except the yugo, too heavy.
@djordjekaljevic5725
@djordjekaljevic5725 9 ай бұрын
​@@gnutzguyas a "yogoslavian" how you pronouced it...i say that walnut stock will absorb far more recoil being heavy
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy 9 ай бұрын
@@djordjekaljevic5725 but 7.62x39 doesn't have much recoil plus the barrel and gas valve rust like crazy
@taasch2505
@taasch2505 8 ай бұрын
​@@djordjekaljevic5725yeah 7.62x39 recoil isnt much anyways. I want the lighter ones if im in the woods alll day.
@RevHellscream
@RevHellscream Жыл бұрын
As I’ve noticed with dealing with sks’s over the years, older manufactured ones from all countries they were produced in have a better quality from the newer ones. I have a older Yugo that is blued on all of the metal parts and the wood is of great quality with a nice grain.
@williamanderson4029
@williamanderson4029 Жыл бұрын
Where are you that 5 rds is a thing? I have a Yugo that was surplus (but looked unfired) with 10 rd capacity.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
Canada
@alegroman4294
@alegroman4294 Ай бұрын
I purchased two Russian sks’s in the ‘90’s. I kept one unfired and in pristine condition and the other one I shot a few times over the years. Both sks’s have matching serial no. One has the Tula insignia and 1953r stamped on the dust cover. However, the other one the dust cover has no inscription, but below where the dust cover contacts the receiver it says made in russia. Does that mean it’s not made in Tula? Other than that both Sks’s have same fit and finish - original stainless blade bayonets, stainless bolts and bolt carriers, smooth, lacquer finish dark stain wood just like the one in the video.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy 13 күн бұрын
1956 and after in tula, the top cover had no marking. the one other factory always has markings.
@akrounds
@akrounds 3 ай бұрын
I have a 1954 Tula Arsenal SKS and 3 later Chinese Type 56s. Although the former is more expensive, the latter is more accurate and light weight, and the Type 56 with spike bayonet is more comfortable for holding than blade bayonet. I used a Type 56 to take down a 200 lb black bear with one shot 3 months ago and I use the same Type 56 as a self-defense weapon when moving in the woods. Another advantage I found with a Type 56 for hunting is that I don't need to wear hearing protection because the gunshot is not too loud, so I won't miss any sounds in the woods. Of course, the most important reason is that you can't find a cheaper and more reliable semi-automatic rifle than the Type 56.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy 3 ай бұрын
the blast is loud enough. maybe your hearing is already damaged.
@akrounds
@akrounds 3 ай бұрын
@@gnutzguy Maybe, but hunting is just one or two shots, so the impact is limited. I usually wear hearing protection at the shooting range.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy 3 ай бұрын
when i was younger it wasnt macho to wear protection of any kind so i fired 308 without hear aid. first shot my ears will be ringing, by the 3 shot i hear nothing, lol.
@akrounds
@akrounds 3 ай бұрын
@@gnutzguy Thanks for your advice.
@ERRATAS0707
@ERRATAS0707 3 ай бұрын
I've had the opposite experience, I'll never trust chinesium sht again 😂
@johngeiler4917
@johngeiler4917 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't read all 300 comments so I'm not sure anyone else mentioned it but I think you Chinese SKS is a '64 model and not a '65. In 1965 the bayonet became a spike instead of the bladed that was used prior to '65. Nice rifles!
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy 2 жыл бұрын
nope, its a 65 and in mid year they switched to spike.
@850xp3
@850xp3 4 жыл бұрын
1954 tula proud owner here ,the best sks quality 1000%
@wb2413
@wb2413 4 жыл бұрын
ive had a yugo and chine sks and ive checked out a russian i think russhian is number 1 china number 2 yugo number 3
@GaMeRfReAkLIVE
@GaMeRfReAkLIVE 7 ай бұрын
The thing about tooling is that they all breakdown, and at different rates. So realistically these comparisons dont amount to a whole lot because the factories arent on the same maintenance schedule meaning that sometimes the tools making the cuts are at very different stages of their life. Making smoother or rougher cuts an inevitability
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy 7 ай бұрын
ah, you are correct in theory but.... you are assuming i am basing it on one yugo, mine.... nope, i have seen several internals and they are all the same. btw, no one has step forward to say theirs are smooth.
@journeyquest1
@journeyquest1 5 ай бұрын
I have a 1950 Tula with all matching numbers. Laminated stock, Very nice rifle that shoots well. Only con is its heavy.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy 5 ай бұрын
yup, laminated stocks are heavy.
@andrettski8686
@andrettski8686 2 жыл бұрын
MIne is a Russian Tula 1953 with that same dark reddish wood. I still want to get 1 or 2 more from other countries. Nice vid filled w/info
@michaelhunt8486
@michaelhunt8486 Жыл бұрын
I have had several variants of SKS rifles. Sold most of them when I ran onto hard times. I have slowly started buying them again. The ones I have now are all Norincos. I know they get a bad wrap from a lot of people, but they are excellent rifles. It is interesting that they have features that many consider better quality when referring to other rifles (AR's AK's) like chrome lines barrels, gas piston systems, and milled parts. Yet... many people still call them junk rifles. It is true that they are not very optics friendy/modular/modern. I just don't understand it....bias maybe? Also, the steel in them seems to be good quality. Anyway, I would trust one with my life.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
I sold mine when I moved to a condo. I bought them back in spite of lack of gun cabinet space. I agree with everything you said. No idea why any gun owner would Pooh Pooh them.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
@@wvdave771 its just yours and mine opinions. whats not an opinion is im on crack, im not, lol.
@matthewlewis-zw3tf
@matthewlewis-zw3tf Жыл бұрын
I agree!! A quality SKS is a fine rifle. Well built, good design, rugged, and reliable. It's a WW2 Era design. You can't compare it to space-age stuff like the AR platform. I would bet my life on the effectiveness of the Russian SKS. However, against a well trained and equipped adversary, I'd prefer something more modern like a 100 or 200 series AK or Scar. Not comparable to modern rifles. Apples and oranges.....
@BurroB0Y
@BurroB0Y 4 жыл бұрын
SKS rifles all came with a 10 round internal magazine. Any modifications to make them 5 rounds were not done by the manufacturers.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy 4 жыл бұрын
yes, we all know that. i compared the differences and not the quality, it was informational.
@skiphinson8620
@skiphinson8620 Жыл бұрын
I’ve got the Chinese type 56 made in 1967. All matching numbers. It’s a great gun.
@BlekSheep_1
@BlekSheep_1 Жыл бұрын
/26\ 1966 here 👍
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
my latest Chinese is fac 26 1979 with french tickler top HG. unfired.
@MaxWray111
@MaxWray111 Жыл бұрын
I acquired my first this year, Chinese /636\ 1975. I have no ex?experience with the others, but after spending 25 years in oilfield manufacturing, I can say unequivocally that it is a well made, high quality piece of equipment I wouldn't be afraid to trust my life on.
@pinkdude3883
@pinkdude3883 Жыл бұрын
How can you tell the age/year? My Chinese sks is confusing. But all the numbers are matching
@matthewgallagher8491
@matthewgallagher8491 2 ай бұрын
Excellent video and quite informative, sir. My one complaint is: there were instances of your showing a part, the differences in the manufacturing, the quality of the part, and it was out of the shot.
@detroitandclevelandfan5503
@detroitandclevelandfan5503 Жыл бұрын
I got my Yugo SKS for 600, 4 years ago. Only reason I paid that much, it was unissued, and only fired at the factory.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
and now it looks like a good buy, cheers
@detroitandclevelandfan5503
@detroitandclevelandfan5503 Жыл бұрын
@@gnutzguy Cheers 🥂 back.
@guillermogalindez3212
@guillermogalindez3212 Жыл бұрын
and the price will only go up good buy
@raresr4092
@raresr4092 Жыл бұрын
Picked up an unissued one a few years back when they were being brought over here from Slovakia. Never fired and a really nice gun love it. Surprised it even had the checklist a little grey book the military had when they went threw the riifles and must have did count. Anyhow prefer the yugo to the chinese one that's for sure well built.
@detroitandclevelandfan5503
@detroitandclevelandfan5503 Жыл бұрын
@@raresr4092 I just wish they had chrome lined barrel, though.
@richwhippersnapper
@richwhippersnapper Жыл бұрын
Since I have a C&R license, I could order one of these and have it ship to my door, instead of the new Zastava ZPAP M70 that will have to go through the usual FFL route. I might end up with a nice historic rifle that could be less money, or same price as the Zastava AK.
@nigel900
@nigel900 5 ай бұрын
You’ve got a bad example of the Yugo. The Yugo (unmolested and not refinished), has bar none the best fit and finish.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy 5 ай бұрын
lol, this aint my first rodeo. i owned a few yugo in excellent cond over the years and my opinion of them hasnt changed.
@vitoandolini8479
@vitoandolini8479 Жыл бұрын
Actually the Yugoslavian shs are named pap m59/66
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
yes, i know but in canada its commonly known as yugo m59/66.
@ZlatkoZD
@ZlatkoZD Жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, the PaP magazine holds 10 bullets?
@ZlatkoZD
@ZlatkoZD Жыл бұрын
hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zastava_M59/66
@MedaCvetanovic_55
@MedaCvetanovic_55 6 ай бұрын
The Russian SKS is the best !!!!!
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy 6 ай бұрын
yup.
@gledalac001
@gledalac001 Жыл бұрын
Papovka rules! Gretings from Serbia.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
Serbia, welcome to my channel.
@samadams8355
@samadams8355 2 ай бұрын
Many people don't know that Marshal Tito strongly encouraged everyone in the country to practice yoga to build strength and resilience. That's why it was Yoga-Slavia.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy 2 ай бұрын
@@samadams8355 😂😂😂
@Snowball042
@Snowball042 4 ай бұрын
Back in the 90’s the Yugo rifles were considered the low end of the SKSs available.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy 3 ай бұрын
probably bcos most earlier were not in good shape. later shipment were unissued, mine is in excellent condition
@therightarmofthefreeworld4579
@therightarmofthefreeworld4579 Жыл бұрын
How times change, acquired a norinco for 80$ and came with 880 round sealed tin, new in bag coated in cosmo line
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
and you bought a crate of it, right? lol.
@truesightgrabber
@truesightgrabber Жыл бұрын
Chromed barrel or not. That the main difference between all of them
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
ignoring the yugo for a moment so not much difference between russian and the chinese? really?
@truesightgrabber
@truesightgrabber Жыл бұрын
@@gnutzguy There is nice video from Izmah factory, where the specialist for licensing of their products made comparison of AK and SKS around the world. The quality of first SKS assembled in China from Soviet parts was almost the same as in USSR. Later they start produced more and more own parts and the quality start to degrade. The best SKS you can find is the EAST-German DDR. But the chance is close to zero.
@lockman004
@lockman004 Жыл бұрын
My Norinco SKS, purchased years ago for $80, rocks. Reasonably accurate to over 300 meters. Capable of firing all manor of cheap ammunition. Thousands of rounds fired with no problems whatsoever. I'm not a hunter but I'm confident that my SKS could take most North American game. Not to mention it's capability with two legged predators. And I have no problem with stripper clips. I think they're fast and efficient when combined with a surplus ammo belt.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
ya beat me, lol. lowest was US$110, that was my favorite till last year, i'd paid US$400 my highest for an unissued factory 26 1979. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qpOvZp2Qoc6Mf8k
@lockman004
@lockman004 Жыл бұрын
@@gnutzguy Not so fast. My $80 was in 1993 dollars so updated to when you made your purchase, you might have gotten a better deal. And I was able to purchase two tuna cans (880 rounds of 7.62 X 39 each) for $60 each. So two hundred dollars for a near new SKS and 1760 rounds of ammo. I still have both sealed ammo cans. I'm saving them in case I need to bug out.
@willyswagon57
@willyswagon57 Жыл бұрын
That was about 1990 right I remember
@lockman004
@lockman004 Жыл бұрын
@@willyswagon57 Summer of 1993. Purchased at a local gun show. At the same time I also purchased a near mint 1943 Husqvarna M38 Swedish Mauser cavalry carbine for $90. One of my finest and most accurate rifles, chambered in the well respected, flat shooting 6.5 X 55 cartridge. If I could go back in time I'd buy as many guns as I could carry home.
@hermit1620
@hermit1620 Жыл бұрын
Keep an eye on and look hard down the barrel right in front of the firing chamber usually develops a crack after about 1500 rounds.
@shadowteam9943
@shadowteam9943 Жыл бұрын
Russian one looks better I like the wood on it.
@StephenRoden-n6q
@StephenRoden-n6q 22 күн бұрын
I have a likely 70's made Yugo import. It's not pristine because it's a surplus import to US. Barrel number doesn't match the rest of the rifle, and that's probably a good thing, but the rest matches. It is an amazing battle rifle in terms of accuracy and reliability. IMO, the SKS has been talked down because they used to be cheap imports and due to propaganda about poor quality Soviet era weapons. I love my Yugo. Full stop. I never expected to like it as much as I do, but it's a very fine and accurate rifle if you get one in good condition. There's absolutely a good reason they sell for 7-900 dollars now. The the 7.62x39 round is also discredited in many comments but it serves it's purpose as designed. It's low recoil and very effective within 200 yards
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy 20 күн бұрын
agreed, i've seen yugo in the states sell for higher than a thousand.
@smacksmack5976
@smacksmack5976 Жыл бұрын
I prefer the Russian
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
me too, lol.
@appamtnculture1302
@appamtnculture1302 2 ай бұрын
I’ve owned Romanian (rough), Chinese, and a couple of Yugo’s. I learned a lot about them and the inner workings. I always wanted a model D Norinco but never owned one. Of my 4 the Yugo’s were my favorite….There were some issue with Yugo’s having gummed up firing pins from storage cosmoline and it was important to disassemble the bolt and polish the firing pin plus channel to prevent “slam fires “….Today I own one special to me AKM only, but I do really like SKS rifles.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy 13 күн бұрын
cosmoline and all sks firing pins has always been an issue. yup, clean prior to using.
@gegervary
@gegervary Жыл бұрын
That's all nice but which one is the most accurate? I'm totally getting one before Trudolf bans them indefinitely.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
Lol. Already planned, just have to sort out details
@daisygoon
@daisygoon Жыл бұрын
Get one that hasn't been chrome lined, also you can turn off the gas tube on the yugo almost making it a bolt rifle and some say a little more accurate.
@milli347
@milli347 Жыл бұрын
Why the name SKS? The YU rifle is marked PAP - pol avtomatska puška . Why are you changing your name? The rifle also has a tromblon, with which you can hit perfectly at 150m. I didn't miss a shot with her. The first batch of 1970 had a self-starting bug. The rifle must not slide in the hands, so the YU is not varnished. Zakaj ime SKS . YU puška ima oznako PAP -pol avtomatska puška . Zakaj spreminjate ime ? Puška ima tudi tromblon , s katerim se da odlično zadeti na 150m . Jaz z njo nisem imel zgrešenega strela . Prva serija 1970 je imela napako samosprožitve . Puška ne sme drseti v rokah , zato ni lakirana .
@jebemkeveu3023
@jebemkeveu3023 Жыл бұрын
Da bi se mi nervirali zato je SKS
@Majki70
@Majki70 Жыл бұрын
pa zvali smo i 'nas' auto stojadin, al to je Fiat; isto tako PAPovka je kopija SKSa
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
Mil Li: i am not changing the name. SKS is the original designer. on my Yugo SKS there are NO PAP, no name, only serial numbers. besides in Canada and the US Yugo SKS is commonly known. google translation: ne mijenjam ime. SKS je originalni dizajner. na mom Yugo SKS-u NEMA PAP-a, nema imena, samo serijski brojevi. osim u Kanadi i SAD-u Yugo SKS je opšte poznat.
@stolek6908
@stolek6908 Жыл бұрын
@@gnutzguy PAP-OVKA(Polu Automatska Puška or PAP eng -semi automatic gun) is how common people call it. Mim Li writes on Slovenian .
@echochamberstudios
@echochamberstudios 4 жыл бұрын
The difference in machining can easily be explained by the wear that occurs on any production machining device. By 1980 the machines would have been on their last legs based on reduced demand and therefore a lack of maintenance on those machines.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy 4 жыл бұрын
what ever the explanation may be, most of the yugo imported here are late production and most yugo owners seeing the same quality as i says its the best. no different with the chinese sks here, mostly are late production or commecial, no one says its the best, even tho not many us seen one from the 50s or early 60s so i have to base it on what we have on hand.
@850xp3
@850xp3 4 жыл бұрын
Really good point cheers
@awalk56
@awalk56 3 ай бұрын
I have a Chinese with a spike bayonet & Yugo with the launcher. Bought years ago for $100.00 each.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy 3 ай бұрын
the yugo was a better investment, lol.
@denverwynn4
@denverwynn4 Жыл бұрын
You know your stuff. Thank you for sharing your study.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
many thanks
@Nords1982
@Nords1982 Жыл бұрын
Russian sks 10 round mag, any of the 1950s is the best.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
all sks has 10 rds fixed mag. in canada its limited to 5
@toetz4491
@toetz4491 10 ай бұрын
I got the 1951 Tula version ...amazing rifle
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy 10 ай бұрын
glad to hear.
@bnalive5077
@bnalive5077 9 ай бұрын
Love my Norinco
@marlan3rd
@marlan3rd 11 ай бұрын
That was very informative and it is interesting that the Yugoslavian SKS did not have a chrome barrel, I have noticed that mine has a dark bore when I was cleaning it.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy 10 ай бұрын
yup, i dont use corrosive on mine yugo bcos im lazy, lol.
@kearneydillon4803
@kearneydillon4803 Жыл бұрын
My Chinese SKS is excellent. It is my only sks that keeps my shots in 3" @100 yds with just a sandbag rest. All my other 3 (2 Russian/1 Yugo) are 4"+ with any ammo clean or dirty. My Yugo is the worst at 6"+. Must have bad barrel harmonics with the different front end.
@serge5168
@serge5168 Жыл бұрын
Great detailed video. Thanks for taking the time to do this. Where are you located that requires you to have a 5 round magazine capacity?
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
Thanks.... canada
@alexk8583
@alexk8583 2 жыл бұрын
The thing is: Russian riffles have been used, Chinese and Yugo are relatively new and barrels are not worn out. Yet. A friend of mine shoot them all and he said can't compare new and old but overall Chinese and others wear out faster than Russian barrels That's all.
@johnwarren2420
@johnwarren2420 Жыл бұрын
Around 30 years ago I was in a little gun shop the owner had Chinese SKS it would take AK 30 round mag and had no bayonet it was around a hundred bucks I got one took it home put in my gun vault and I never got it out maybe I should get it out and use it I think it is the only gun I have never fired just got it because it took AK mags
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
If you live in the US then Sks-d are fine wine. They can only go up. Yours unfired is probably worth US$1500, . Fired US$1200
@Knightrem
@Knightrem Жыл бұрын
@Gnutzguy my father had a type D that he gave to a friend. A month after the friend took ownership, he called my dad and told him "it blew up".
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
@@Knightrem I never heard of sks blowing up before so what happened?
@armageddonready4071
@armageddonready4071 9 ай бұрын
I won’t lie, I would take any of them. Thieves stole mine. Semper fi
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy 9 ай бұрын
no shit? thats sucks.
@ticket2space
@ticket2space 10 ай бұрын
Dang theres a lot of haters in this videos comments. I appreciate your video brother if they cant get passed an accent, i think they need a new hobby. One of the coolest things about the firearm world is, the diversity. You gan get two of the same guns, made on different sides of the planet and theyre different. The sks is a classic. I personally love yugo guns for their quality and the history. Also they're super handsome.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy 10 ай бұрын
many thanks.
@dinadaughtry8993
@dinadaughtry8993 5 ай бұрын
I have had the Russian SKS and it was a little heavier than the Chinese SKS Sporter and regular Chinese SKS i paid 120 dollars for the Russian SKS, the most expensive was the Sporter that took the AK magazines and had a wooden thumb hole stock and it was shorter than the other SKS rifles I had it was new and the Russian SKS was a milsurp but the fit and the finish on the Russian was far better than the Chinese ones, it was complete with the bayonet and sling and cleaning,tool kit,had the star and cycle on the bolt cover and all the numbers matched, everything about the Russian SKS seemed to be of better quality and it was quite accurate for a semi auto rifle with open sights but the Chinese SKS Sporter was fairly straight shooter but the fit of the bolt in the receiver and the stamped trigger was not on the same level as the Russian SKS,i really wish I had kept it, it was in very good condition it only had a few notches that where cut into the stock,i can only imagine why someone cut them in there but whoever used it took very good care of it, the Chinese SKS Sporter was sloppy in how all the parts fit and the AK magazines would rock side to side and the trigger and All the other levers like safety and take down pins where stamped in sheet metal instead of milled out of a single piece of steel like the Russian SKS but it would fire everything time you pulled the trigger very reliable but the Russian SKS was definitely a higher quality firearm in every way just heavier
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy 5 ай бұрын
yup, you cant compare a russian to a chinese commercial sporter. thanks
@taasch2505
@taasch2505 8 ай бұрын
I hear the chinese Bayonet gets locked up and hard to put back down. Is this true?
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy 8 ай бұрын
not true, smooth same from other countries.
@davidderler5924
@davidderler5924 8 ай бұрын
I have Chinese SKS w/spike bayonet works perfect. Have a Yugo too real heavy. Chinese is light and easy to carry .
@taasch2505
@taasch2505 8 ай бұрын
thanks for letting me know guys. It sounded weird when I heard it. It's a military rifle. Would be counter productive to mass produce a feature with such problems presented. Not that that's never happened in history, but pretty sure for a while there the SKS was the backbone of the Chinese military
@mookbuilt
@mookbuilt 7 ай бұрын
No..chicom has good tolerance
@stralegaming2597
@stralegaming2597 Жыл бұрын
Yugo M59/66 is more accurate than the Russian SKS, that's probably where the myth of quality comes from probably
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
Accuracy is another myth I will do a vid on.
@derekhall7610
@derekhall7610 4 жыл бұрын
The pin in the magazine is an after market "upgrade" from Canada. It is not made on the sks. It was put on so it could be hunted with in Canada and the U.S. that magazine block shows it was imported through Canada.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy 4 жыл бұрын
after market upgrade? lol. you are 3 months too late, its been covered.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy 4 жыл бұрын
@Caden Malcolm just a number our government picked and felt the public is safe with, 🙄
@billchildress9756
@billchildress9756 Жыл бұрын
I have a Russian 1951 SKS but have you ever seen one with a Red Bakelite Stock and upper hand guard? The #'s match and it is in great condition. Mine holds 10 rounds not 5.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
bill: nope, are you sure its a russian and not a chinese? i dont think the russian made red bakelite stock
@billchildress9756
@billchildress9756 Жыл бұрын
@@gnutzguy Definitely Russian. I have seen one other with this type of stock a long time ago but no idea of the year. It's not polymer or plastic and it's red. I have not had it apart except to check and clean...A very nice shooter and it has the blade bayonet. It could be some sort of aftermarket item but it is a perfect fit. That's why I'm asking about it.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
probably chinese jungle stock, it was red and made of resin in fabric. they were cheap and plentiful in the 90s and early 2000
@billchildress9756
@billchildress9756 Жыл бұрын
@@gnutzguyThey might have been plentiful but you still or at least I haven't seen any around. I had a Chinese pre ban years ago but my dad complained about it being a war only gun So I sold it back to keep the peace. I need to get it out and look a little more closely at it and I'll tell you what I see. So far you have given me more input on it then I have been able to find online. Maybe I didn't try hard enough but google will roughly give you what it thinks? you want. I found it in a pawn shop years ago so I don't know much about it.
@BobO-th3fq
@BobO-th3fq 2 жыл бұрын
I am sure that SKS owners realize that the SKS rifles from China and probably other countries were built on the exact equipment that Russia used as the foundry equipment was since they sent the equipment to China. While there may be some variants by countries it is highly likely that they all came from the same equipment used by the Russians.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy 2 жыл бұрын
in china, only factory 26 had russian equipment while the other several dozens factories did not. when it comes to quality, the human factor is more important than equipment.
@iviekicklighte673
@iviekicklighte673 2 жыл бұрын
The Chinese and the Russian feel the same but the Russian has nicer wood and metal finish the yugo feels like they tried to copy it it's badly balanced heavy they did the same thing when they were making yugo copys of the German k98 and the machining isn't as good
@HaloFerret117
@HaloFerret117 Жыл бұрын
I have a question that may be dumb but I haven’t done my research. I bought a Chinese SKS that clearly had a couple modifications done. It has a metal heat shield to help cool the barrel down faster instead of the typical wood I usually see. Was the SKS ever produced this way or is that just another modification?
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
No sks came with vented top handguard. You can easily reverse it by buying a wooden Chinese top HG, they are not expensive. Search my vid "vented handguard sks"
@HaloFerret117
@HaloFerret117 Жыл бұрын
@@gnutzguy thanks a bunch!
@o9rgeronimo979
@o9rgeronimo979 Жыл бұрын
The wood is much better too, you won't get burned
@zeljkodejanovic8786
@zeljkodejanovic8786 Жыл бұрын
I had it at the beginning of the war in Bosnia and we called it a stake. I later got the M70 AB2. The SKS/Kolac had a problem with the gas chamber due to the Yugoslav highly corrosive ammunition. There was a deadlock just when you needed it the most and if you didn't have a cleaning kit then you were screwed
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
Yes, I heard from other veterans from that war of the rust issue.
@tromblon1
@tromblon1 Жыл бұрын
so it is an ammo issue, not rifle
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
@@tromblon1 no, all Commie countries used corrosive ammo back then. gas tube rusting was a common problem with all sks but easy to clean except the Yugo with grenade launcher bcos of the gas valve. Also made worst no chrome in the bores. Let's say it's a pain to clean a yugo.
@daisygoon
@daisygoon Жыл бұрын
You got lucky with all matching numbers, generally when they pin them they do multiple rifles at the same time and don't much care which mag they throw back on which rifle.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
that was true when the importer didnt think it mattered. most owners of SKS wants the # to match.
@jhough57
@jhough57 Жыл бұрын
I believe alot of mismatches were to customs and how they entered the country, they couldn't come in with the bayonet attached for instance, I was very lucky to pick one up a week ago at gun show with all matching numbers, from Bolt carrier to gas tube to stock, (minus bayonet)
@randelldarky3920
@randelldarky3920 Жыл бұрын
I regret not buying that Rusky SKS and Dragunov years ago.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
i hear ya. i bought them way back then sold them cos i moved to a condo but i bought them all back at higher prices. they will always go up, i say, lol
@Jagdtyger2A
@Jagdtyger2A 5 ай бұрын
I am curious, is there enough barrel chamber to adapt the SKS to .300 Savage?? I know tat there have been AKs built in that chamberig, so I wondered
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy 5 ай бұрын
i dont know 300 savage so i wont speculate but i do know the chamber profile area of SKS. there are 3 types, long lug , short lug and no lug (pinned barrel) so with increase in pressure. best to stick with barrels with long lugs so that would be russian, yugo and early production of chinese. avoid late production chinese bcos quite often they use no lug. good luck.
@bamahammer949
@bamahammer949 4 ай бұрын
300 Blackout maybe they are both a 30 Caliber Round!!
@LarryGarcia-p3j
@LarryGarcia-p3j 3 ай бұрын
Why don't you ask a real gunsmith?
@GammaZeta
@GammaZeta Жыл бұрын
Thanks for going over the mfg. differences in the Russian models (early to mid and late) I had no idea. I recently bought a Russian 1950 bought have not had a chance to shoot it yet. The first thing I noticed was the spring loaded firing pin.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
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@TheTexan99
@TheTexan99 Жыл бұрын
Im a proud owner 1966 type 56 all matching numbers
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
and you should. im sadden i sold my 1965
@richardcorona2237
@richardcorona2237 10 ай бұрын
Same 😂 1966 matching numbers on mine
@HermCore
@HermCore 3 жыл бұрын
Great info on the parts interchangeability! Love my Yugo! Will hopefully add a Russian to my collection one day, if they ever go down in price
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy 3 жыл бұрын
maybe in the US but in canada, prices unlikely to go down due to uncertainty.
@tex4763
@tex4763 2 жыл бұрын
I’d recommend getting one now I don’t see Russian sks rifles being imported in large numbers anytime soon
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@pexonifikacija
@pexonifikacija Жыл бұрын
Made in Serbia . Zastava Oružje. 🇷🇸💪🏻
@RovinjJoe
@RovinjJoe Жыл бұрын
Istina ali ste ga koristili protiv svojeg naroda a ne neprijatelja
@MilanKV1
@MilanKV1 Жыл бұрын
@@RovinjJoe Koristile su ih sve zaraćene strane, protiv dojučerašnjih komšija, prijatelja, kolega... Bratstvo i jedinstvo nisu mogli da opstanu, kada je bujala nacionalističko-religiozna mržnja i uverenje da (samo) drugi narodi kradu, tj. glupost...
@alegroman4294
@alegroman4294 Жыл бұрын
Here in the States most Chinese SKS I have seen comes with a spike bayonet. I noticed yours had a blade one. Could you elaborate on that?
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
explanation in this link, you will find it interesting. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qoiqhqathcx6gMk
@bobdillon7832
@bobdillon7832 Жыл бұрын
He's a canuck. Nuff' said and obviously isn't an SKS expert.
@BlekSheep_1
@BlekSheep_1 Жыл бұрын
Spike does more damage ... puncture wound is harder to stop the bleeding
@chrispollock8735
@chrispollock8735 9 ай бұрын
Never had a problem with Norinco's
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy 9 ай бұрын
Yup , you shouldn't.
@chrispollock8735
@chrispollock8735 9 ай бұрын
@@gnutzguy and I remember when they were $50 a piece 😢
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy 9 ай бұрын
$50? that must be before my time and im pretty old, lol.
@chrispollock8735
@chrispollock8735 9 ай бұрын
@@gnutzguy I'm 42 and I remember being at a gun show when I was little and seeing a barrel full of them for $50-75
@chrispollock8735
@chrispollock8735 9 ай бұрын
@@gnutzguy memory could be a little fuzzy though
@darianballard2074
@darianballard2074 Жыл бұрын
Just because the bolts fit doesn't mean they'll work. Try shooting them with the other bolts and I bet the head spacing will be way out and might cause explosive failure.
@ericdavis1438
@ericdavis1438 Жыл бұрын
Might????😜
@Eternallifeministries777
@Eternallifeministries777 9 ай бұрын
I love my Yugo
@Jobotta
@Jobotta Жыл бұрын
Your vids are excellent and very informative. I haven’t been here in awhile but I wasn’t surprised to see your follower count up. I’ve never seen these three layed out together. The heft of the Yugo is very apparent next to the rus and chicom, and understandable given it’s purpose. Did you refinish the wood? Also, have a like.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
Thanks .... Not in the video but in the thumbnail pic , yes. Two different gun.
@leviwoodring6101
@leviwoodring6101 Жыл бұрын
Do you have an East German SKS?
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
I wish, lol.
@tylerbaldwin1633
@tylerbaldwin1633 Жыл бұрын
i was thinking about picking up a chinese sks from cabelas here in canada are they worth the $550 they want for one?
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
i bought mine in person and i paid $500 last summer from another dealer.
@inktownfishing4505
@inktownfishing4505 Жыл бұрын
I have Norinco SKS and Russian SKS. Both shoot great, no issues with over 1000 rounds +. I also fitted both with ATI synthetic stocks. Chinese SKS required very little sanding to ATI stock, practically just dropped right in. The Russian SKS was a pain, have to remove a lot more of material from inside ATI stock to make fit. So I would say Russian SKS was slightly wider tolerances. But I'm not a gunsmith. Also, when I bought my Norinco in the late 1980's they were on sale for 100.00 each Canadian... So I bought 3 lol.
@tylerbaldwin1633
@tylerbaldwin1633 Жыл бұрын
@@gnutzguy i think im going to take the risk and order one online, recent reviews on their site people are saying they are getting some quality rifles.
@tylerbaldwin1633
@tylerbaldwin1633 Жыл бұрын
@@inktownfishing4505 thanks for the info! i wish i got my pal years ago im for sure paying a lot more to get into it no but oh well its better late than never! i think im going to pick up a Chinese sks
@adamzahafi739
@adamzahafi739 Жыл бұрын
Hey! I’m from Michigan, do you guys know if the Cabelas in Canada ships it over?
@mikepeterson9362
@mikepeterson9362 3 ай бұрын
Anybody know what country this guy is in? I've never heard of a law requiring an SKS to be welded to five rounds.
@Anesh02
@Anesh02 3 ай бұрын
Canada. Semi-Auto center fire rifles have to have mags pinned to 5 rounds.
@keith7630
@keith7630 2 ай бұрын
@@Anesh02 Did not know that. So sad.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy 2 ай бұрын
sad indeed, including a drum mag.
@Anomalyy666
@Anomalyy666 2 күн бұрын
​@Anesh02 just remove the pins. They don't even enforce the laws there since the prime minister can get away with crimes.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy 2 күн бұрын
@@Anomalyy666 not true, they don't go looking but when they do come across it, they will persecute. Sad to say.
@JB-mo8rs
@JB-mo8rs Жыл бұрын
My first gun was in 1994. at 18 years old. A Russian Tula SKS for $125; cash/carry. I also picked up a case of Chinese, copper washed ammo for $1.95/20rds. Yes, those were the days.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
russian sks didnt come to canada in large quantity till 2008 at C$200 or US$150.
@californianprepper8699
@californianprepper8699 3 жыл бұрын
You all have some nice sks's there in Canada aside from the 5 round limit. many here imported into the united states are pretty beat up. I have a Chinese but would love to get another one or a Russian version. Great video sir I enjoyed it. And good luck over in Canada I hear they are getting worse with the gun laws similar to what happens here in California.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy 3 жыл бұрын
yup, sks is about all we have, lol.
@TheTeehee11111
@TheTeehee11111 2 жыл бұрын
Stupid laws, everyone know they can easily remove the limiting pins
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
@@TheTeehee11111 I think they will ban pinning and make it mandatory to chop the mags to 5 rds only.
@gnutzguy
@gnutzguy Жыл бұрын
@@edwardhawkey5714 recently the Canadian liberal government tried to ban all semi auto rifles including the sks, Luckily the public opposed and they backed down. they will try again with something else. So your 7 mo wait ain't so bad compared to a complete ban, lol.
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