Go Wide! Panasonic 7-14mm f/4 Full Review

[@artistjoh]

I bought this lens when it first came out in 2009. Still have it. A great lens. Always was, and always will be.

[@BennyMoose]

I love your videos about the G85 and the mft lenses. Keep up your good work! :)

[@derekaggs11]

Benny Moose Thanks! I try :)

[@arthurinc.]

Hey! Does it fit with the lumix g7?

[@LetsBuildThatApp]

Nice intro music, felt like I time traveled back to the good ol days of the 80s. Very retro.

[@jexxy1806]

this is the best review I have seen so far on the lens! I was able to pick this up on Ebay for $500 which feels likes a steal!

[@derekaggs11]

Whoa, that is a steal! I hope you enjoy it as much as I do!

[@DavidHarry]

Excellent review and super informative, thank you. I'm an audio/video person who's just bought a Z Cam E1 MFT video camera specifically for close interview type stuff. I think your video has proven that this lens is the perfect choice for very close video work in confined spaces. I especially like all those field of view examples you've done, again, super informative examples. And thanks for the heads-up on those potential minor issues, none of which are really negatives for me personally, as the positives about this lens are so overwhelming. Cheers, Dave.

[@derekaggs11]

David Harry Thanks Dave. This continues to be one of my favorite lens and is getting plenty of use on my new Panasonic G9!

[@matthooper5059]

Love the video, my ADD has me focused on that dang fan in the background.

[@AnimousArchangel]

good, all information I need for 7-14mm. I worried about f4 aperture for indoor shoot, i guess need to bump up to 1600 ISO to compensate for that

[@DavidUtke]

The 4k with the 7mm looks great. I really can't decide between the G7 or the Canon 77D with a wide angle lens.

[@andivax]

thank you! do you use lens filter for shooting outdoor? sky (and sometimes faces) on my outdoor shots are too bright.

[@derekaggs11]

andivax I don't use this lens with a filter since it doesn't have threads for one. If you're blowing out skies or faces, try dialing in a little negative exposure comp.

[@cxociety6983]

Apparently, Olympus has a 7-14mm F4 (not to be confused with the F2.8 PRO version). I couldn't find anyone doing a comparison of these two (like for like 7-14mm F4). Any thoughts?

[@Dez_Blanchfield]

watched this twice and got something great both times.. keep making these amazing reviews as they.. well they are awesome ;-)

[@derekaggs11]

Dez Blanchfield Thanks! I’m working on a one year update video as we speak.

[@Dez_Blanchfield]

awesome, I look forward to seeing it ;-) keep up the great work mate !! and cheers, from #Sydney ;-)

[@thedigitalemotion]

Great video, just about to get one off eBay for internal property shoots.

[@mudgie069]

I had this lens but sold it, having no filter thread killed it for my type of photography especially as I love to use a polarizer, 10 stop nd grad and reverse grad. Great lens but as you say, it does have some limitations.

[@derekaggs11]

Howie Mudge Photography I hear ya! My ND filter fun stops at the wide end of my 12-60 kit. Did you replace it with another UWA?

[@mudgie069]

Not as yet. I've got the Samyang 7.5mm fisheye which I can de-fish if needed. I may in the mean time buy the Olympus 9-18mm as it has a filter thread. Not as wide as the Panasonic but still wide enough for landscapes.

[@derekaggs11]

Looks like the mentioned Panasonic Leica 8-18mm f/2.8-4 will be announced officially on Wednesday!

[@mrjohnbaseley]

DDW Reviews let's put everything in perspective. It's a leica 16-36 f4-5.6 (In full frame terms) at a crazy price. The idea of German handmade precision at a cost is gone. Like your review BTW. Honest..

[@Greg_the_Berean]

Nice review! Hey @1:04 that pic looks like it was taken at The Dry Tortugas National Park in the Florida Keys! Or I could just be tripping lol. But was it?

[@b3naqua]

loooooove this lens for vlogging!

[@germanevision]

Thanks for the review. It is informative for professional videographers. But if the lens is f/4 will the indoor performance at weddings or real estate videos suffer in low light?

[@rrafaelpaz]

I watched the whole video.. Very detailed! Thank you so much!

[@mikeb6736]

at 6"20-6"21 i clearly notice flickering aperture while you're zooming. Would you be kind enough to make a dedicated test on that? One case with fixed iso of your choice another with auto-iso on. I'm considering buying this lens over the 8-18 (that is said having resolved any flicker issue for all Elmarit new lenses). Like a lot your channel. Thank you :)

[@ninamag1527]

What is the thread of this wide angle lens, in order to attach a UV filter?

[@jeffhalebopp]

I'm torn between this lens and the Oly 7-14mm F2.8 PRO. The 2.8 would sure help in dimmer environments. I consider F4 an outdoor or good light only lens for video. Thanks for the video.

[@Duckstalker1340]

jeffhalebopp The Olly is way faster and better in low light for indoor, e.g. weddings. It’s also more expensive.

[@artistjoh]

jeffhalebopp The aperture difference is only 1 stop, but the size and weight difference is huge, so I would base the decision more on weight and price than aperture. Also the lens is better on Panasonic cameras than Oly so your camera should be a factor if you have an Olympus camera.

[@MikeBrayton]

great review. thx.

[@willw125]

Do you know if the lumix g85 takes 256gb sd cards? The user manual states that it only takes up to 128gb

[@ajgfive]

Smashing review, thankyou ☺ Andy

[@wazzobazzo]

100% beginner here. So the price you paid would be about 5700 SEK according to google. Would you still recommend picking it up (used but as new) for around 4000 SEK/around 500 US today? Just got a GH4 on the cheap to learn on along with a 14-42mm (only lens so far but that one cost 200 SEK so wasn't too bad) and will use it mostly for film. Would this be worth adding or is there a similar budget alternative?

[@userbosco]

Great video, thanks very much! Curious why you chose to shoot this review in front of that beautiful power panel? xD

[@Temporalmixproductions]

Nice review, bro. You make me want that lens. I started out with primes (Olympus 12, 25, and 45mm) but since I started shooting videos every week, I quickly realized what a pain in the ass they are to change out all the time. So I recently got a Lumix 12-35mm which is much better for my run and gun style. I wouldn't mind getting an ultra wide and a telephoto lens to finish out my collection. I really prefer lenses with OIS though since my G7 doesn't have IBS. Again, great review. You've given some things to think about.

[@derekaggs11]

Temporal Mix Productions It is, and that's part of the reason I went with this lens over the Laowa. Being bound to one rather extreme focal length and having to change lenses slows down workflow, especially considering the Laowa is totally manual. My only manual lens is the Mitakon 25/0.95.

[@Temporalmixproductions]

Yeah, I film myself a lot so autofocus is a necessity for me.

[@tvlover81]

What settings are you using? I have the hardest time getting my g85 to stay in focus and not focus hunt.

[@derekaggs11]

tvlover81 I'm using C-AF with face detection for vlogging. It still hunts from time to time, particularly when I look away from the camera and it loses lock on my face.

[@tvlover81]

Do you use the natural settings or auto? Your color looks great too!

[@derekaggs11]

tvlover81 Since doing my G85 color profile video I now use Natural instead of Cine-D. It gives me perfect color without any tweaking. Much better for skin tones too!

[@tvlover81]

DDW Reviews thank you :-)

[@manuelpires1890]

You can look add Olympus 7-14mm f2.8 pro lens?

[@derekaggs11]

If I had one I'd be glad to! It looks like it compares pretty favorably to the Panasonic 7-14/4, offering a stop faster aperture and weather sealing. Optically, both lenses are excellent. The Olympus is nearly double the cost of this lens, however.

[@michaelmcgill8104]

There is a fish eye lens from Panasonic that is 8mm, but this goes down to 7mm, wouldn't that be even more fish eye at 7mm? or are fish eye lenses completely different.

[@derekaggs11]

+Michael McGill They are. The 7-14mm is rectilinear while the 8mm is fisheye, which will have heavy distortion.

[@ericofukushiro]

did you test the 8-18mm? if so, which one do you prefer?

[@derekaggs11]

Erico I haven’t had a chance to test one yet. It’s WR, takes filters and is better built. The range is more useful on the long end as well. The 7-14 is smaller, wider, still very sharp and cheaper.

[@manuelteubert260]

Does the sense have an internal stabilization? Thinking of getting the GH4 with this lense for vlogging what do you think about that ?

[@manuelteubert260]

sorry I meant the Lense

[@xxsillyxxGaming]

I’m a beginner, so this lens should fit the GH5 correct?

[@DopamineOverload]

Can't believe how expensive this lens is.... insanity.

[@melenriquez8985]

My Canon ef-s 10-22 uses a 77mm screw type filters.

[@GregBrammah]

Mel Enriquez which is equivalent of 16mm at wide end.

[@melenriquez8985]

Greg Brammah still 10mm with a screw filter. Do not confuse the conversion with the mm of the lens. 10mm is 10mm whether it is in a ff or a m4/3.

[@GregBrammah]

Mel Enriquez The point in the video was that any lens wider than about 15mm equivalent seems to be the focal length where screw in filters stop being possible. Hence, the Olympus 9-18 (18-36 equivalent) does accept screw in whereas both m43 7-14s (14-28) don't. Similarly, in your APSC setup with a 1.6 crop factor the 10mm of your 10-22 is 16mm Equivalent. i.e. 1mm narrower than the 15mm (ish) cut off point. I concede that that a Sigma 10-20 is 15mm equivalent on Nikon's though, so it's more of an observation than a hard and fast rule. I think the original point stands.

[@melenriquez8985]

Greg Brammah that is the mistake of many. They confuse the focal length and angle of view. For example, my fz 1000 has a 25-400mm equiv if it is 35mm full frame. But it's likely has a focal length of 6mm give o take a few mm. But it takes a 63mm screw filter. What you should use is FIELD OF VIEW of 14mm in 35mm full frame. As I said, 10mm is 10mm regardless of sensor size. But field of view is different depending the size of the sensor. This is often confused by many. Use FOV and you won't be ambiguous.

[@GregBrammah]

Mel Enriquez No mistake, the video explained it quite clearly. Your mistake is that you claimed originally that your 10mm took filters which missed the point of the video. In terms fov in your canon APSC it is 16mm.

[@xxsillyxxGaming]

Does this fit the GH5?

[@xxsillyxxGaming]

Never mind, watched further through the video now :)

[@sooovann8908]

So no Lowa 7.5mm ?

[@derekaggs11]

Sooovann Nope. I decided to pass on the Laowa, even though it's cheaper, faster and takes filters. I have a trip to Yellowstone in about a month and I absolutely had to have an UWA for that trip. Venus Optics seems to be dragging their feet on the release of this lens for some reason. Even if the Laowa launched today there's a slim chance I'd have it on time for the trip. Also, there are usability advantages to having a fully electronic UWA zoom over a fully manual UWA prime. It's nice not having to change lenses when I want a more "normal" perspective, which is what this lens gives towards the 14mm long end.

[@FFxO]

im still using it!

[@LowOnCash]

Great Job Thanks!!

[@ceeIoc]

Is this good for vlogging?

[@derekaggs11]

ceeloc I like it for vlogging. It gets plenty wide and can zoom in for a flatter look if you want that.

[@ceeIoc]

Cool thanks, but I just checked the price its a little expensive. I just tested out my G85 for the first time this weekend. BTW do you leave your e-stablization on? The footage was a bit shakier than I expected.

[@derekaggs11]

ceeloc I usually leave e-stabilization up to post processing

[@ceeIoc]

cool thanks!

[@userbosco]

BTW, love the cat!

[@carsuncovereduk]

Lovely cat aaa

[@Mongoschannel]

Tybee is pronounced TIE-BEE. lol.