Goalies can tackle in the NHL now?

Last nights game between the Edmonton Oilers and the San Jose Sharks was a fun game but of a wild one and one that wasn’t so great for the officiating crew. See, we saw a record setting four thats right, 4 successful coaches challenges and whatever that James Reimer tackling Ryan Nugent-Hopkins was. It reminded me of Tim Thomas back in 2011 when he drilled Sedin! Anyway, we’ve got a lot to cover today so I hope you enjoy todays NHL hockey recap!
#nhl #hockey #highlights #edmontonoilers #sanjosesharks

[@halmartin7417]

Officiating in the NHL is a joke. This hurting the game. Player safety and officiating need to be overhauled.

[@ericlamouche6517]

Please tell me your ideas cause NHL refs need to make calls in half a second without replay while being hated by half the stadium. It’s easy to sit on your couch and make calls but it’s not easy when your out there

[@TheStartUpScreen]

Bro sometimes refs are right next to someone and they don’t see the hook or any penalty

[@oggamer735]

@@ericlamouche6517well it would be really easy in modern Day to give phone attached to referees arm where he could check what happened in instant replay video. Other one would be having one referee watching TV feed and instant let the refs know if he see something.

[@ssis2420]

@@TheStartUpScreen Sometimes its harder to see the penalties if you are right next to it

[@TheStartUpScreen]

@@ssis2420 like someone gets tripped they don’t even bother

[@dtmrea247]

Definitely had me asking... "are goalies immune to holding??"

[@rorygillmore6555]

Nope but refs are immune to criticism and disciplinary action it would seem...

[@layedout447]

I love it when goaltenders hit that Tim Thomas moment will be one of my favourites all time, but that was definitely a hold Reimer did there.

[@dirk903]

Im a Canucks fan... and i absolutely love that goaly check haha. Clean hit all the way But Reimer, yeah thats holding bro

[@isthatujeebus]

Goalie hits are bullshit. If you want to play that game then you don't get to complain when players do the same back...

[@layedout447]

@@isthatujeebus you sound like the kid I used to punch with my blocker on

[@layedout447]

@@isthatujeebus I understand the emotion behind your argument, but definitely no logic to it. If the goaltender comes out of his crease to play the puck behind the net, he should be safe, but the occasion that he decides to come out of the crease forward towards the face off dots then he should be fair game otherwise you got a guy in there with 100 pounds of equipment that gets blown up every night

[@isthatujeebus]

@@layedout447 that's what I meant; hits BY goalies. If you don't want to get hit when leaving the crease then don't go on the offence interfering with and hitting players. You play by the same rules or not at all.

[@daneneedoba8930]

Knew this was going to be a video, both my step dad and I were flipping s**t. The sharks announcers said "that's a really smart move on his part."

[@FalloutUrMum]

You're only guaranteed to get favorable calls if you're the Bruins or the Rangers

[@makeupwithsandra5801]

I love your coverage of the oilers. Thank you! 💙🧡

[@DaCanadaAssassin]

Shark getting 3 goals called off in 1 game is crazy

[@duaneday5474]

The Oilers actually focused on improving their instant replay teams effectiveness among other areas of the team like scouting and medical staff when the new management was hired. There was a notable improvement. Especially the past 2 seasons. The Oilers were in the basement for 10 years due to poor management in multiple departments in the franchise.

[@UntarWow]

Both offsides were correct but can agree both interference calls kind of soft. Remember a playoff run for oilers where guy(kessler) was sitting on our goalie pads and goal was called good.

[@blazerorb]

@@UntarWow I also think the interference calls were really weak. And as an Oiler’s fan, this win with three goals getting called back feels so unsatisfying that I’d almost rather we lost. The tie breaker is just that losing to a team tanking for Bedard is extra painful. But I don’t know how I’d define a goalie interference penalty that could be called more consistently and with less referee discretion. One problem seems to be the quite different goalie interference standards between referees, who are making calls on-ice in real-time, vs the guys upstairs, who basically are forced to call things to the strictest standard. The guys upstairs have the same recordings that everyone else does, so the leeway a ref is given doesn’t apply to them, and they have to call to the rulebook. My ideas for discussion are: - Reduce the size of the crease. - Make goaltender interference a non-reviewable penalty - Make the goaltender interference review up to the refs, ie give them a screen to watch it so that they can decide themselves whether they would have called it with a better view. Might increase consistency with on-ice calls. And teams’ review people can’t be as sure about referee discretion as they can about to-the-letter decisions from upstairs, so they’ll gamble on reviews less.

[@jordacheamistad3748]

All 4 goals were called with objectivity, despite the "soft" appearance of the interference calls. In both interference calls, the offensive player was in the blue paint before the puck entered the area. The goalie was unable to properly react or play to their ability because the offending player was in the blue paint. Couture literally prevented Campbell from cutting the angle down on a shot from a high danger area. His body was where Campbell was needing to be to stop that shot to the best of his ability. Couture interfered with Campbell's ability to play his position in a way that circumvented the rules. If Hyman had not preceded the puck in that moment, there wouldn't have been a goal to call back. As far as who deserved to win, the goals that counted decided the game not the goals that didn't count. Also, the oilers outshot the sharks badly and out chanced them in grade A chances and shot attempts. Then there's the non call on Reimer trying to get the double leg on Nuge. I think the final score matched the game on the ice.

[@mithex8414]

@@blazerorb “I’m an oilers fan but I’d rather the oilers lose🤓🤓🤓🤓”

[@gabrielidusogie9189]

Thanks for this man. I’m new to hockey and I’ve now seen two of my teams games (we won, Go Wild!). It’s a great sport and all the content I’ve now been exposed two is great. Would love a video of you explaining everything hockey if you haven’t made one already

[@nextmanupNMU]

That's awesome to hear! I actually had thought of doing something like that a few weeks ago but wasn't sure how much interest there would be. Thanks for the suggestion, I'll work on putting something together!

[@loco.t.motive]

the last clip goes absolutely bonkers💯🔥

[@nextmanupNMU]

😂😂goalies are wild!

[@sliehgtofhand]

Sharks fan here. I was watching and both my dad and I were absolutely baffled how Reimer didn't get a penalty for this.

[@WilliamTheDestroyer.]

This is a great synopsis! And the ending scene is epic!

[@C..C..C..C]

Omg thank you for covering this. I was extremely pissed at this no call and it almost cost us the game 100%

[@NickName-JackHughes]

I was there and it was just a crazy game overall it got so loud especially when Reimer tackled nugent-Hopkins but overall great game for the oilers

[@dizawnofwizar]

Ya know you say teams are robbed of goals, etc due to them being called back for stuff like 'offside'... well my question is - where's the fuckin linesmans whistles!? Are they broken? That's literally their job.

[@schrempskynate8944]

I heard the explanation that linesmen let the play go if it's too close to call so that the play doesn't die. It's up to your coaching staff to do the linesman job now. Honestly I'm not even sure why they're taking up valuable space on the ice since they continually get in the fn way.

[@SevenTwo7ven]

Thanks for this video. I was watching the game with my mouth wide open the whole time…what a game

[@pdubcentral]

Love the review. Was a crazy game. As an oilers fan I love that the sharks came on the ice after and gave taps to Reimer, he had an incredible game. That save on draisiatl had me just losing my shit trying to process how he got that when he was down already. Then that insane sequence in overtime. Such a fun game. Was expecting a blowout, didn’t hate having a more entertaining night. Karlsson was a beast, but it was great to see ekholm with some offence of his own, great game and recap!

[@WinterWoolies]

As an oiler fan I'm completely used to thus type of reffing. Just another day

[@bradleyderuiter8635]

You need more subs. Love the content keep it up man!

[@minuteseven1999]

I'm assuming the reason for the no call in front of the net is because from that corner, he can't see the arm of the goalie from where hes positioned. If I was the ref in that corner, I would have assumed that the goalie had his glove up trying to block the backhand shot and the skater just lost balance. If he was in the other corner it would have been called easy. But in the highest level of professinal hockey, that was probably too blatant to go uncalled.

[@goji059]

i could see it....from 4500 km's away try to keep up child

[@minuteseven1999]

@@goji059 Bro listen to yourself. Your watching the game sitting on your couch drinking a beer with all the best curated camera angles designed to see the action as best as possible. Compare that to an on ice official who doesnt see the game from a birds eye view. has to constantly be moving and making decisions on the fly in real time. The refs see what they see from their eyeballs, at ice level. And they have to make a decision right then and there. Sometimes players bodys get in the way, and they have to make a call based on their best judgment. I'm not excusing the refs for the no call, I was stating reasons that he could have missed the call. Try to be self aware next time bud.

[@DreadX10]

@@minuteseven1999 I agree with your statement and I would also stress that this cannot be missed by the officiating team as a whole. They have 4 sets of eyes who can watch the play in 3D, augmented with 3D-audio (although that doesn't help in this instance).

[@minuteseven1999]

@@danieljohn560 I totally agree. I think linesman should be able to call penalties. It shouldent be their first concern but if something obvious happens, they should be able to make the call. I bet one of the linesman wanted to call something here, but they can't. Not sure if my solution is totally bullet proof, but something has to be done.

[@KkevrockK]

If only there wasn’t two refs on the ice for exactly that reason….

[@Paroseni.]

Looks like the hockey gods want the sharks to get bedard

[@marinrealestatephotography]

We can only pray this is true.

[@drdrai7479]

I was waiting for someone to cover this! Such a bs non-call at such a pivotal point in the game.

[@flipperdoo22]

That was a sure goal for Nuge, how the refs could turn a blind eye to the tackle is mind boggling. Why have linesmen when they don’t do their job. Reffing is sure a joke but was an entertaining game

[@DDWyss]

The goalie check, classic lacrosse move!

[@alexsernoskie1108]

Imagine RNH manages to keep control around Reimer and score. Then they call it back for goaltender interference...

[@danshobbies13]

I’m more surprised they didn’t call it goaltender interference.

[@schrempskynate8944]

Nuge wasn't in the crease but I know what you're getting at. Oilers always get screwed on that sort of thing.

[@zacharyreichert5035]

Smart by Reimer. Always in favor of goalies engaging a little in the rough stuff. Only a little. Binnington screws it up for all of us.

[@jamesmckissick3356]

look at where nuge vs sedin are too, sedin was in the blue paint for the hit and nuge wasnt for the hold, should have a penelty at least they didnt lose because of it

[@fabianm2819]

holding aside, reimer absolutely stood on his head in the rest of this

[@btgkg9639]

A Pacific division team will be playing for the Stanley Cup. Change my mind.

[@marinrealestatephotography]

Vegas, most likely.

[@body_by_depuy]

The Johnson goal should have counted. It wasn't goalie interference. He was in the pool, but Soupy initiated the contact by using him to push off to get to the blocker side of the net.

[@munchiesRoblox]

Sad to see Campbell move from Toronto to Edmonton 😢

[@makeupwithsandra5801]

What the fuck was that goalie doing?!! What was he doing?! Is that allowed? (The RNH hold)

[@kazenrova6845]

I cant wait to see what steve dangle has to say about this lol

[@JessicaWohler08]

i was absolutely dying when james tackled nuge dying . it was so funny but how was that not holding like ?...

[@marinrealestatephotography]

Only wish the Sharks had lost in regulation to help increase their chances on getting Bedard.

[@Foreeverrrr]

I was at that game

[@GuyDudeman]

that lack of call was infuriating

[@RoyalMela]

That Reimer hold. Obvious, but for the referees, very unusual. That is something refs most likely are not focusing on. That is very very very rare thing to see, so it most likely was so unexpected that refs just were not prepared to look for it. I mean, at that spot, they have many other things to look first.

[@optimisticsand5374]

feel bad for the guy whose first goal in the NHL got called back due to his teammate Forgot to add: The Sharks def should've won this game. Maybe I'm a biased Flames fan, but...

[@MustyBastard]

Thats 2m per goal... Pretty good

[@UntarWow]

If you are referring to nurse. You kinda dumb. I agree he isn't worth his contract, but dude has 8 goals, 37 points... which isn't elite for contract but definitely not how you make it sound. The 4 goals are overtime goals. Not sure if for a season or career and I kind if don't care enough to check.

[@Boris_Chang]

The ref in the corner only saw the backs of the players, and didn’t see Reimer’s arm around the front of N-H. I’ve been saying for years that the on-ice officials can’t see enough, and an off-ice official (whether in the stands, or in an office in Toronto) are needed to have more accurate calls. One day, AI will officiate games, but until then, the officiating will suck.

[@Chumbucket77]

I like how the thumbnail isn’t click bait it’s an actual shot 😅😅😅

[@Gamer1234brendan]

Hey it’s about time seeing other goalies shoving or tackling now I don’t wanna hear it with binnington if there tackling players

[@zedehsea1525]

this happened in a leafs game this year too.. the offside reviews are getting a little ridiculous imo

[@Fish220]

I play hockey in the USPH? And goalies constant tackle. I literally got injured by my own goalie attacking me

[@sicklifedesigns]

I have watched every single oiler game since 2015 when we got McDavid and the officiating has never been worse over the last 4 - 5 years and every season it seems to get worse now

[@justalyx7952]

I think the goalie should be able to knock people over IF you are in the Blue, but not hold. This should always be a penalty but i do think goalies need space and it gets really unfair for them in some games.

[@nutronik9]

Remember when Tim Thomas body checked a player and wasnt called either

[@Hello-sw3en]

Refs stopped me from watching Nba and NHL. I moved to watching WWE cuz i know what to expect from the refs

[@KDill29]

Maybe give the Oilers a penalty shot on that hold? Or a 2 minute penalty minimum????

[@iceKOId]

Teemu Selanne said this is *the worst rule in Hockey* the coaches challenge. It’s ruined the game

[@slyx_edits]

wait a sec what was going on at the end 4:37 . bro was a npc goalie.

[@fwater9543]

Yeah definitely a penalty, but as a goalie, I probably would’ve done the same thing, better to either kill the penalty or take a chance on a penalty shot than just take the goal against

[@impulse_xs]

Yeah you could tell Reimer got caught going down way too early and couldn’t do anything. besides flail around uselessly or take a penalty lol. Ref probably thought he was still just trying to make a save from that angle.

[@austinweir4375]

Should've been called for a hold. I know goalies can check but that wasn't

[@rustysalmonella7681]

Reimer: won’t wear pride jersey Also Reimer: lovingly gives RNH a reach-around

[@mediumdoubledouble9012]

Yea unfortunately the rules from goalies on players with interference is pretty vague. Still keeping rules from days of the crease while not following that rule. In my opinion if a goalie is the purpose of contact outside of the crease it’s interference. If it’s the players fault you have goalie interference. Stay tuned tho, this could turn out to be a thing in the nhl. Although I feel goalies care about their health a bit more than that.

[@RabbitSix]

holding for sure

[@BigNick209]

Bro what was that Shark player doing on that back check like your in the NHL put effort into it

[@Peter-sx6we]

Would the Oilers complain to the league about something like Reimer grabbing RNH and no penalty or would there be no point? Are officials ever asked by higher-ups about why they did or didn't make a certain call? Do they ever have to explain anything and are they ever fined/punished?

[@kyletangen9446]

Wow, the goalies are allowed to tackle now? Nice officiating, I can't imagine why people say that refs make Stevie Wonder look like he has Eagle Eyes in comparison. Yikes.

[@gladiator_2581]

I think I know what Binnington is doing next

[@improbablecontinent]

I thought this was a brilliant play by Reimer, but brilliant as in, a smart penalty to take.

[@donmoroz5502]

Picture shows goalie body checking opponent. What's the fuss about? Player had possession and goalie used his body to separate player from the puck.

[@impulse_xs]

It was a tripping penalty but not intentional imo. You can tell Reimer got caught going down way too early and had no way to recover. From the refs angle he probably thought Reimer was closer to playing the puck than he was. Still a penalty but I can see how it was missed.

[@powerface71]

That was pure Interference by Riemer!

[@lilPerc30]

Wow he was definently gonna score that. I say penalty shot and makes goalie interference a joke if goslies can do that lol.

[@johnjohnnston3498]

So what your saying is, the Canucks technically won the Stanley Cup in '11

[@duaneday5474]

The officiating is terrible this season

[@bluethunder1951]

The refs job is to keep the game flowing so it doesn’t become to slow. Just imagine if they called every infraction the game would be so boring and take forever to finish. Back when there was only one official and two linesman the games were long and lots of stoppages, most games were three hours or longer, now most are over in two half hours. However the reasoning for adding the second official was to improve the quality of the calls, and reduce the time it took to play a game, it seems to have worked to a point, but now the players are becoming so fast it’s hard for the refs to keep up, even to stay out of the way is getting impossible without impacting the play. LOL, I can see the game evolving (20-50-100 years) to some form of no lines meaning no offsides, just wide open play, no linesman required, no on ice officials as off ice official will make the calls, and drones will retrieve and drop the puck. Just kidding, the game is not perfect but it was never meant to be or it wouldn’t be so darn exciting to watch.

[@blairsy77]

REEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@shak3master553]

no more holding then the one on josh anderson, look at the arm wrap and tell me they aren't the same.

[@coryw3339]

the offside challenge needs to go.

[@tej5626]

what?

[@seen48]

Unreal that wasn’t a hold. 4 goals called back (correctly) and Jack Campbell let in 7 goals…technically. I guess his time off did nit do him. Any good.

[@Gamer1234brendan]

If they can do that so can binnington

[@darthcrowley5561]

No problem but then they shouldn't cry when they get tackled which they always do🤷🏼‍♂️

[@cheesecakefriend28]

Eh. Probably an odd take, but guys now don't take penalties for rushing and barreling into the tendy, soooo I'm all for more goalies making more contact back. A while back if you rushed the tendy the D men would take your effing head off.

[@Oilerfan5]

Haven't seen Reimer reach like that since his press release #DOGSO

[@samueljenkis6253]

This isn't Reddit, all we care about is hockey here.

[@matthewgranger8356]

I thought the Reimer hold should have been an awarded goal.

[@thebelizeaneh]

No game is good for the refs. The calls are so inconsistent. Some days things are a penalty and other days it won't get called

[@ryans413]

It’s a joke you got 4 refs on the ice and not one saw this come on.

[@jamesklinski3890]

Smart move on Reimer part

[@AG-po4xz]

Sedin at least was in the crease, nunget wasnt. And I mean, should we allow goalies to hit players ? Players can so goalies can ? Kinda right, but the thing is, If goalies can hit Players, it would be fair that Players could hit them ? Maybe it's better to not allow goalie hits...

[@jackbrons4904]

I don't hate the goalie checks but if goalie interference is a penalty then why isn't interference by a goalie a penalty?

[@brandonf24]

You're welcome for Ekholm, Edmonton. Once again, a Preds defenseman, not named Josi (who has to put up numbers or not considering last year's snub on an offensively anemic Preds team), is disregarded by much of the league in value or achievement. As for the video...sketchy calls...just more of the same consistently inconsistent officiating in the NHL.

[@brollyhessianovskov-ph1jc]

When was the penalty. What happened? Is this the worse nhl officiating EVEr! Tune in next week

[@Y.A.A.E.G._Games]

Shouldn't that have been called a poke-check kind of thing by a rymer and if the goalie doesn't make contact with the puck at first it's a penalty, but either way it was definitely a hold, this is what I've been talking about lately the NHL is all over the place with its officiating and it's becoming laughable slew foot by Victor Hedman this. Excetera I think the NHL's needs to hire some new refs or sit them all down in the same room and have a discussion cuz this is becoming a problem and becoming worse and worse every game it seems like you hear something now that was so obvious but yet no calls no nothing, and I really don't know about that goaltender interference call considering he didn't impede the goalie's save it was bouncing all over like you said twice, so did he impeed on the first bound, Did he impeed on the second bounced Did he imped at all? I personally don't think that player standing there had anything to do with him making the Save or not too hard to dm with the puck bouncing twice or more doesn't look like he actually stops the goalie from coming over more like the goalie saw the puck bounced and tried to react which therefore isn't the players fault so how can you deem any of that wouldn't that Define under the classification of inconclusive, it's also becoming really shity that you can't even celebrate at first when your team scores you got to wait to see till the face off after the goal to see if the coach is going to challenge or not so take half the fun out of the game

[@jeremydueck4029]

NHL refs don’t feel professional. Watch an NFL game and picture how the refs see the ball and know when it hits the ground. It’s unbelievable what they spot with such precision. Same in the NBA. When 3 people jump to block a ball, they know who’s finger got on it and who’s didn’t.

[@What123abc]

sharks goalie through is stick

[@larrygrassinger2819]

It's becoming apparent that the Oilers are going nowhere in the playoffs if they use Campbell in net (not sure if Skinner is ready to lead them to success either).

[@stinkfinger630]

Pretty interesting position for someone so against male on male contact, eh Reimer?

[@davidjohnstone4975]

Who can tell what is a penalty anymore -- the zebras clearly have no idea. Check out tonight's Habs game finale. I think the next item for the GM meetings is how to get all the officials off the ice but one. They only need someone to drop the puck and blow the whistle. Let cameras and video review refs make the call since these on-ice officials are simply terrible. Time to evolve the game and phase out the worst aspect to the modern game -- terrible and inconsistent officiating.

[@illwillsquared]

with how little defensemen can do to stop a forward now adays, im all for it

[@jonfox4022]

I love the part where the Sharks' commentator says some crap like 'I dunno what they'd even call there, it's his crease and he didn't do anything wrong'. It's one thing to be paid to give commentary for your specific team and it's another altogether to be an idiot. Honestly, do any fans appreciate this type of commentary? Rather than say something so stupid how about not commenting on it or maybe laugh about how they get away with one....

[@SgtCheemsy]

Can you stop freezing the clips halfway through them it keeps making me think that my internets being wonky and pisses me off only to realize it was on purpose

[@xtc996]

The NHL like any other sport is manipulated .

[@quonslecn7755]

Reimer showing his support for the LGBTQABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ community

[@blizzard13east29]

is hockey rigged? I can see a convincing argument being made.

[@nathanthemoneyman9191]

Campbell is the worst goalie i have ever seen. wth?!

[@SMG2fanatic]

Love seeing Thomas checking that wuss Sedin. Love the legs in the air 😂

[@kingoftrolls19]

Nope. Thomas should've gotten a penalty. You can pick and choose.