You have to remember he can adjust the size of his cages. If he makes it massive then teleports to the other side... he does have map control if you think about it
@gloenigma5 ай бұрын
He could potentially travels through the map using 2 cages I think
@rasolvioli5 ай бұрын
indeed but the thing is you can only really control ciphers with him during chairs (id imagine), so if you waste your meter thing you (most of the time) wont have it for the rebound or for rescue, you’ll only be able to do chip dmg for a little bit
@bonbon_idv5 ай бұрын
It could be a whole pre-nerf Opera Singer thing again where a full-meter goatman can cage to far ciphers then use Teleport to go back,, but I think it's too risky, he'd probably want warp instead
@lilyiisz5 ай бұрын
Okay so he kill everything he has for chase for movimentation and cant do anything after this? And its not even that far away
@puddinghead78825 ай бұрын
I was expecting him to run on all fours towards us ngl. 😭
@Chuuyaii5 ай бұрын
THAT SOUNDS SO FUNNY 😭😭 I CAN IMAGINE THAT NOW
@Tsukiyumi35 ай бұрын
So dashing on all fours ? We don’t need another geisha and opera 😂
@Miiruunaa5 ай бұрын
HELP LMAOO 😭
@Orphypaws5 ай бұрын
HELP THE IMAGERY OF THIS LMAO
@vstro_i5 ай бұрын
I actually want a hunter like this now-like it would be cool if Luchino did this or something
@TippyToe7685 ай бұрын
No, guys He doesn't have cool down, he's like the wax pew pew of the wax artist, it's all about resentment(energy) managemen
@twiyuch5 ай бұрын
As a little girl user teleporting to someone and help break the cage for them would be so clutch but goatman looks super interesting im excited to see his gameplay
@ryin7635 ай бұрын
I think he’s tie hunter material at best. Chips outside of cage is massive.
@Mahladhan5 ай бұрын
Tie? Bro, he can block you reach the gate and dungeon It's a worst situation
@gloenigma5 ай бұрын
Depends on his CD in the final version tbh
@DaikonDev_5 ай бұрын
That's how he secures ties you can just kite in cage until it runs out and he can't do anything @@Mahladhan
@Xenthys5 ай бұрын
Agreed, I don’t see how he can be a S tier hunter (but I have been so wrong in the past). His cage only exists for him to be able to land a hit, and if the cooldown is high, it means he can only get a full hit every X seconds which means he has to hit each survivor 3 times (twice outside the cage and once inside)
@eli_7275 ай бұрын
i dont think so AT ALL
@ithakitten5 ай бұрын
ok he looks really fun and hard to fight against at first but! i have words to say 1. seer, gardener, puppeteer, gravekeeper - all of these characters counter him (theres probably more) seer's owl doesn't break the cage, but you can either: - force him to respect your ability and wait until it ends - force him into an attack recovery animation which during both you can destroy the cage 2. with detention he's probably going to work like clerk's recorded hit - it deals 0.5 damage, but deals one hit damage with detention 3. you need to rely on tight kite to kite him, but he's gonna be REALLY good with confined space because he's an anti transition hunter - for the rescuer i'd say u need to go to the chair immediately just in case. treat him like mad eyes overall looks like a hard tie hunter with a high potential to 3k which tbh im glad for. i didnt want him to be crazy overpowered but didnt want him to be weak either yk
@Schooltao5 ай бұрын
I realised that,due to the fact that survivors outside of the cage can’t break it when a survivor is in the cage. Gate campers will kinda make their teammates suffer as goatman could just put a cage with them in it and the survivor heading to the exit gate can’t break through it.
@Ingrid7812-m3w5 ай бұрын
omg. I'm gonna be so lost and confused kiting him 😭😭
@kpco22565 ай бұрын
As if u where able to kite any hunter at this point 😂
@brighten775 ай бұрын
i'm gonna be so lost and confused playing him...
@DavidFavid-tn8gn5 ай бұрын
@@brighten77I play a lot of hunters, yeah same LOL I wanna learn him
@Ingrid7812-m3w5 ай бұрын
@@kpco2256 ???
@LILYISMM5 ай бұрын
I’m actually rlly happy with his abilities are unique, I was scared they were gonna be basic but they aren’t 🙏🏽 I love more complicated hunters
@yukkui5 ай бұрын
wth i really wasnt expecting goatman’s gameplay to be like that 😭😭😭
@strawberry.waters5 ай бұрын
This is either gonna be super op or he's gonna be bon bons replacement as tie king.
@Keona_115 ай бұрын
I like how no one expected this gameplay 😭 idk how I feel about the chip damage outside of the cage tho
@Light_puppets5 ай бұрын
Well to be fair, if he can still do half damage outside the cage, then he might be to broken
@Syncho0-y4 ай бұрын
i did, watching his video lore thing and noticed they said something about cages lmao
@CoolDude-m2c5 ай бұрын
He seems pretty GOATED
@rqj55025 ай бұрын
Criminal
@stuckysymbrock76885 ай бұрын
Honestly, I would've liked it better if he could somehow interact and take advantage of the animals in the maps, such as the spider in church and the cat in everlasting or something. I thought since he is "goatman" and he is connected to animals that he would do something with them but this illusion cage thing is still fine lol (it would also give a reason why netease suddenly added them in the first place)
@SapphireYuna5 ай бұрын
That'd be kinda weird using the map animals but a cool idea. I was also expecting him to use animals tho but this still fits his lore I'd say.
@SapphireYuna5 ай бұрын
He's relying a lot on his ability because he only deals a chip damage that still triggers attack recovery outside of the cage but he's got a lot of potential. I don't think he'd be broken from what I saw but he's going to be strong for sure. We gotta remember you can still kite inside the cage it's not that small that you'd instantly get it everytime. If you have the distance and win the the teleporting mindgame you'd be fine and if you're someone like Seer or a good stunner or have pallet/window with a long wall to work with you can easily break out of the cage most of the time and force out another cage. If the hunter doesn't immediately put another cage you'd be fine because outside of cage he only deals chip damage. And putting down a cage would trigger a short animation so he wouldn't be able to swing right away, it may not sound like much but sometimes even that 1 sec delay matters. His own power is going to become his biggest weakness. Remember the hunter is not the only one who can tp loop inside the cage. That's how I feel about him
@SapphireYuna5 ай бұрын
Oh and yea forgot to mention even if he creates a smaller cage it's not always going to work out. I'm sure you know why so it all comes down to the players who play him and how they use him but still at best he's probably a tie hunter. Too early to judge tho. We need more in-depth details on his cooldown and stuff first. We can guess from what we saw but ye let's just wait for the release.. things can change anyway.
@Janet122745 ай бұрын
+Remember he can use cage to open areas
@Video_gremlin5 ай бұрын
I also find it important that you forgot to mention that in the video it says that goatman has a teleport cool down of 0.5 seconds, and survivors have a teleport cool down of 2 seconds
@Video_gremlin5 ай бұрын
I also find it important that you forgot to mention that in the video it says that goatman has a teleport cool down of 0.5 seconds, and survivors have a teleport cool down of 2 seconds
@hyperstellar385 ай бұрын
He seems so hype and people already complaining about him being "too strong" has me going INSANEEE bro 😭 "I'm not rescuing against THAT" I AM, MOVE!!
@wasaism5 ай бұрын
his cage countering horse is crazyyy
@EifieDM5 ай бұрын
I wonder will it interact with Tram-sama XD
@minayoon41955 ай бұрын
Okay so gate waiting against him is forbidden. He can appear behind us lmao😂he also like mad eyes + Joseph where he can trap ppl and jumpscare ppl
@Lanakira25 ай бұрын
I think against tanky survivors (Like Ada, Eli, Matthias etc.) he will have a hard time because he can only deal chip damage outside of the cages. But putting a cage to prevent rescues before half, getting dungeon or blocking off the exits can be pretty OP as a survivor main. It seems like he definitely relies on his abilities so it's interesting to say the least!
@VValac4 ай бұрын
Imo matthias will struggle against him, since outside of cage using puppet will be useless
@Duckology5 ай бұрын
I’m honestly glad that his abilities were not what anyone was expecting at all, gave us a nice surprise 😂 His skills also seem very fun to experiment with so I’m looking forward to seeing how pro COA players use him.
@RosaQueenParks5 ай бұрын
Same. Glad he’s not another dasher. Ppl thought sangria would sing and Fire inve… would shoot water or fire lol (his poster showed an airbag inside the weapon thing lol)
@ForeverViewing5 ай бұрын
He seems like he'd be either funny, annoying or banned in duo hunter lol, it's like mad eyes trapping you in a boxing ring lmao.
@imjustherewatching6235 ай бұрын
Future goatman main right here chat, wait for me to get my s badge [ZEEZ GET AWAY FROM MY GOATED HUNTER] There's so many different scenarios on what to choose from, and I'm particularly interested in what traits will be used on him. Can he blink inside of cages? Or, can he trap surv IN BETWEEN cages? I'm interested to see if he works well with warp, especially if you can warp from one cage to another cage. I wonder if he can also use the gates as shields to prevent harrasers from harassing [need a coord to get clipped shooting the cage rn...] I'd love to see how he would work in duos, too. Can't say for sure if his abilities may contradict his hunter duo or if he'd compliment them. [I'm excited for goatman gameplay chat, look at me yap...]
@tvhm885 ай бұрын
I was thinking that too, how when there was 2 cages up there was a tiny cage by overlapping them, but it didn't say anything about it
@fohila5 ай бұрын
ME TOO
@tedstar155 ай бұрын
he seems like so much fun and his kit is just so unique too which makes me so much more excited for him than i already was
@tedstar155 ай бұрын
also also! i was thinking about his detention hits and i think they'll probably work like keigan's detention hit recordings, so they'll deal 50% damage outside the cage. i feel that might make his endgame a bit weaker but still, the cages are so strong so we'll just have to see
@SapphireYuna5 ай бұрын
Andrew maybe possible but Priestess nope I doubt it. Inside the cage it's not like a solid wall so it won't be possible. Shouldn't be possible from outside the cage either. Doesn't feel like something they'd do for Priestess who has rechargable portals. Grave tho... I think he might be able to, it's not a rechargable skill/item and only he can use it unlike Priestess portal which anyone can go through.
@SapphireYuna5 ай бұрын
@@tedstar15 you're wrong about Keigan's recording. Her recording deals chip dmg without detention because it deals half the dmg of the original and not because it's the default value. That's why it's 50% damage if it's a detention recording, dealing half of 2x detention damage. It's kinda hard to explain. If you want to compare it we have Gamekeeper's hook. TS = Detention hit so if it follows the same logic as GK hook it should deal 1.5x damage. I'm talking about GK hook after he gets first presence ofc that's when his hook starts dealing chip damage and when it TS with that chip damage it's 1.5x damage.
@Cinnamonoroll665 ай бұрын
It’s so rigged when you’re doing the saving as faro lady like he uses the cage to camp but once faro lady breaks it she has a 100 percent debuff and it changed to 60 percent so once she tried to save the survivor it’s too late goatman’s attack recover is done and terror shock faro lady like it’s the same as saving the survivor with your last life
@peanutpeanutpeanutpeanut5 ай бұрын
I feel like people arent seeing how little it costs to make a small cage, and how backstep essentially makes it impossible to be in open areas, he essentially has a mini blink mind game in his pocket at all times
@Alex-b3s5 ай бұрын
At first I thought he was way too overpowered but after you started explaining it I feel like now he is probably not as hard to kite as you think
@DaikonDev_5 ай бұрын
Confined space, detention with patroller gurrantees hits
@mini_pumpkin35815 ай бұрын
2:43 bro imagine playing faro and you HAVE to rescue against him 😭 also i feel like he is a die hard tie hunter which must bring max sadist and max berserker if he really wants to camp that chair
@Ozymanthius5 ай бұрын
It's gonna be super fun learning how to counter him in my opinion. I started playing a few months ago and the only new characters that have come out are faro and fire investigator, so I'm very excited to see how much he changes rounds.
@DFHui5 ай бұрын
He seems a lot like BQ in terms of chase style and ability cooldowns. The chip damage outside of the cage + the cage disappearing after a hit makes his chase way too dependent on his expensive ability though. And the survivor can even kite in a wide area inside his cage too, so it might not even help that much. I don’t really think he’ll be a great hunter, but still a niche trickster type of character
@Ssteven5 ай бұрын
13:35 fax lol, they wont see it coming
@alizathly5 ай бұрын
I'm so happy that they're adding more unique hunters!! The sigh of relief I let out when the hunter wasn't another opera clone
@CloudiEyez5 ай бұрын
Colour me terrified.
@39.lengockhanhthu65 ай бұрын
Goatman, his name said it all like Zeez predict.
@soupshouldgetgud85064 ай бұрын
i noticed that one of his external traits is that when survivors are in a cage they interact 10% slower so possibly it could also effect decoding so he has some sort of slowdown too
@nidgithm5 ай бұрын
not what i expected but pretty interesting, i imagine he'll be a bit like mad eyes where if you're really good/smart with him you can do some real bigbrain stuff. the chip hits outside the cage part is kind of unfortunate though
@ILoveYidhra5 ай бұрын
I’m so excited to see pro gameplay with him once he’s been out for a while!! and the skins from his essence look really cool tbh! like his skin actually looks scary for once which is nice !
@daehyukie5 ай бұрын
The toes out in the open is killing me
@apollosimagination5 ай бұрын
Would patroller be a good trait for him? If he needs survivors to be in the cages in order to do regular damage then it would be easier to stop the survivors and cage them. Peepers could also be a good trait since it slows down survivors and highlights them too. I don’t think blink would be necessary since you can just trap the survivor and teleport to the other side in order to catch up to them, smaller cages would also work in tight kiting areas I think.
@_Sussy5 ай бұрын
We thought the same with fools and ivy when they came out. I'll take time but I believe we'll figure out a way to counter then
@viviak0u5 ай бұрын
Tbf Ivy is totally busted even after her nerfs. Fools’ Gold, however, is a rather underwhelming hunter in practice, unfortunately.
@_Sussy4 ай бұрын
@@viviak0u oh, I just hide on a pellet so if ivy teleports to me I'll stun her, and it usually works or scares them to another target
@tfcbioshock5 ай бұрын
One thing i think changes how i see him is how its clear that hitting an ability doesn't destroy the cage. Only an actual hit on a survivor. So bubbles, owl, shovel, stuff like that doesnt break the barrier but things like puppeteer should.
@Joriginality5 ай бұрын
The usage of the walls will definitely be to prevent people from vaulting pallets and windows. I think he definitely has what it takes to be a win hunter. Imagine at the ruins area between statue and shack at hospital, there are so many windows, but you can definitely block their options, which would be great for anti-looping.
@Marie-to6gw5 ай бұрын
10:28 Seer isn’t free from cage until he takes damage (owl doesn’t count as damage 😢) 8:53 is ref
@ZeezVovGeeV5 ай бұрын
True, but the cage only lasts 11 seconds. One tanked hit to transition to at least maybe a pallet can stall long enough. Then he's just waiting for his next cage
@anikaleung77785 ай бұрын
Goatman THE GOAT!
@ilios94045 ай бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this oml. Can’t wait to main him.
@CLOWNTOWNBBY5 ай бұрын
And now. . . . .The whole Goat Man Bridge Skit shall be his Meme. . . .
@kalkal-i9j5 ай бұрын
I absolutely love goatman he is my new favorite character already, I love his design!
@anxietleigh54745 ай бұрын
Think he will definitely be a map dependent hunter!! big and open maps will be his best friend
@Shirosamiki5 ай бұрын
All you gotta do is to wait if he is comming your side and you use the cage to go other side before he can hit you
@yoannbelleville77633 ай бұрын
I didn't know goatman existed until I faced one in game. Weird moment for me when he brought up his cage.
@Spring2b5 ай бұрын
at 8:19 it shows seer's owl does not affect the cage so it counter seer but how about matthias and luchino's ability?
@wretchedshades5 ай бұрын
yeahh. as a professor main, i’m really curious to play against this guy
@Brixerr5 ай бұрын
Puppeteers increases his own fear when using louis so it could cancel cage but at the same time since goatman himself doesnt increase matthias fear it could not count but time will tell
@Some_Person_02255 ай бұрын
I wasn't expecting him to have cages but he looks REALLY fun I hope he can cut off tram that'd be so funny
@DostoNiers5 ай бұрын
Real
@Some_Person_02255 ай бұрын
@@DostoNiers WHY ARE YOU HERE!?!?!?
@AmritIThink_IDV5 ай бұрын
Backstep is really just *moonwalks to you*
@IloveKaworuNagisa5 ай бұрын
when I first saw this I freaked the hell out but now uhhh I feel like hes okaaay.... hard tie probably.. idk tho I may be wrong but hey Im super excited to see how well hes gonna perform
@FoolMisinfo5 ай бұрын
Welp here are great counters towards goatman: Considering you can break through the cells by cooling down his attack you can use survivors that resist a two hit, gravekeeper and seer has shown in the example is good against him. But another alternative is gardener considering her recall ability and mercenary despite that he takes hit like other survivors, again the hits slowly get to him so you can use that in advantage. You cannot get rid of the trash of identity v kreacher pierson, so thief is still another counter. Painter for his distractions, you might even get enough time to break through both cells if you get a speed buff(postman/dancer) Professor if you use his shield well. Acrobat if used well. If you main this hunter don't fear forward, fear batter still. You cannot get rid of Antiquarian nor Little girl. If you maneuver well barmaid and doctor might also be great against him. Good hunter counter against priestess tho.
@samuelemarcelli5 ай бұрын
Goat man literally fooled all of us We thinked that is ability was freqking lion😭
@Tsukiyumi35 ай бұрын
The examples were hot !!!!
@Masxin85355 ай бұрын
Dead ass The teleports behind you Nothing personal kid Hunter
@ren_93535 ай бұрын
I honestly didn't expect Aurora from LoL in this game, but he looks pretty cool.
@yuridevill5 ай бұрын
IM SO EXCITED I LOVE HIM SM
@xijonlarrain5445 ай бұрын
CAN'T WAIT FOR HIS RELEASE🎉🎉🎉 (Because of Anne's A tier ofc 😗)
@Edgarvaldenmain5 ай бұрын
The gameplay that is done for me man
@THEWILLBROTHERS35 ай бұрын
Im glad his kit is different and unique i was worried they were gonna be predictable.
@Angelbunny125 ай бұрын
THX !god i main dw and ivy yasss
@this_spoon5 ай бұрын
cant wait to see ven diagrams like 13:12 for giant distance
@Yasss12345w5 ай бұрын
The GOAT
@Sebacti5 ай бұрын
You made this so fast after stream!!:3
@oryz8035 ай бұрын
Can't wait to see a goatman main in tourney !!!!
@sgabellorotto5 ай бұрын
You will never see me kiting the Goatman for more than 5 seconds
@Caycaydi0mond5 ай бұрын
Goatman domain expansion : mind game
@soupshouldgetgud85065 ай бұрын
so at full presence instead of maxing out his meter in 60 seconds it’s 48 seconds and i think 12 seconds being shaven off for full meter is actually pretty good
@wayvauwi7605 ай бұрын
i feel like embalmer can counter his camping abilities in some way because of his coffin. he can just place the coffin really far from the chair and either force him to use a cage to travel the distance from chair to coffin or force him to switch targets.
@LovelyRose-Annie5 ай бұрын
I'm really curious what Bane would think of Goatman's abilities 🤔
@cyannd5 ай бұрын
So glad they gave him a unique ability
@rei_cultist5 ай бұрын
he can literally force people to save after half and block dungeon, gates etc this is going to be painful
@NapstabIook5 ай бұрын
Domain expansion goatman cage while inside this cage my one attack is guaranteed to hit JJK collab?
@tvhm885 ай бұрын
This is a really interesting concept for a hunter, and I like it a lot more than something like opera singer. It will definitely be interesting to see how they will balance him. I can't wait to play him cause doing half a hit outside of cages is a huge nerf, but if you play it right a cage should mean a garunteed hit every time. I also can't wait to see what the S skin is gonna look like and how it's gonna change the look of the cage, if not then i'm sure an accessory would do that
@lars85965 ай бұрын
definitely not what i expected after seeing leaks, if anything i’m happy that he’s different because now he has some personality to his kit. outside of that, i feel like he will be a tie hunter in hands of people who don’t know how to mindgame correctly and for him to be scary with what he had rn it will require a lot of time and skill 😅 lowkey want to know your reaction to the skins poster
@Avaleis775 ай бұрын
I LOVE GOATMAN. HES SO SILLY, I HOPE PEOPLE WILL LOVE HIM ❤ His skills are so cool and genuinely had me in shock! I will definitely be using him when he releases
@blaqqgore5 ай бұрын
goatman is gonna be goated
@kichikichiliar5 ай бұрын
hi zeez! I know it has nothing to do with this video, but I wanted to say that i really really like when you say MIKE GAMINGG cuz I'm an acro main and everything about him makes me happy so hear u give him that attention makes me happy 2
@frostnight17405 ай бұрын
bro he's not gonna get tight or transit kite ,he counter them both.While transition kite seems obvious to relizes ,not many people know how to counter tightkite with him, imagine if goatman spawn mutiple gates to block paths like at 0:43 it's almost feel like a madeye.If they tigh kite you in places like hospital or ruins , then just set the cage so that the outside face of the cage would block huge path of the kitting route, if they don;'t break it they have to go another way which then you can still sommon more cages(Your cage does not have a cd and if you summon another in a 3 sec window it cost less energy).LIke im scared dude , we all know how powerless it is getting blocked by fence of madeye, now imagine the same thing happen while goatman is catching up quickly toward you
@Jpmako05 ай бұрын
Goatman domain expansion aaaaaaa 🤯
@Chimishou5 ай бұрын
Goatman is gonna be really the goat uh 😭 its actually very cool all the things he can do
@OLDEYE70455 ай бұрын
No cage: 25% hit damage Inside cage: 50% hit damage
@justmejb37695 ай бұрын
he looks so fun i can’t wait to play him!!!
@EifieDM5 ай бұрын
Basically wrap mad eyes XD
@LuchinosCat5 ай бұрын
I was so confused and i tried my best to understand this part 2:08 when they first released the video on twitter bc i was eepy BUT HE SEEMS SO FUN TO PLAY AND TO GO AGAINST !!! I still dont know how to kite him better... should we forced half a normal hit and then kite for our life when he uses a cage or the other way around?
@corvynss5 ай бұрын
EXCITED FOR THE GOAT, he looks fun tbh! Might be a new main, cant wait to see his S Skin awawaw
@Radicusmax_New_Art_Cult_Member5 ай бұрын
This character looks fun! I don’t think I’ll switch mains, but there is a possibility depending on how fun he feels on release.
@joefrozen30505 ай бұрын
the true domain expansion of goatman...
@Not.a.cat.with.internet.access5 ай бұрын
I just had a super exhausting day at university but Zeez has delivered more food for the skibidies 😔🙏
@connormcateer71255 ай бұрын
If he isn’t nerfed into oblivion upon release he’ll probably be S or high A tier for around a season then overtime fall into a B tier position and be niche tourney picks within another season.
@youngfiona37665 ай бұрын
He looks so cool 😭
@Chirubuni5 ай бұрын
Truly an Identity V moment
@jdidsomething57635 ай бұрын
OOOOHHHHH very excited to try to play him!! i feel like ill lose track of the survivors tho lolll
@mlhissalt5 ай бұрын
OK I DON'T WANT TO SEE HIM AGAIN😍💔
@amialuvr5 ай бұрын
they did?? this will be my first time watching it and i dont know what to expect brb