GodLogic debate with muslimRockstar , it was uthman who wrote the quran part 1

[@TesseRact7228]

All THIS to try to explain a "clear" book...

[@eradian1]

The best is when they start arguing with each other about the book that explains everything so clearly that there's 4 or 5 people who disagree in 6 different ways!

[@messiah_is_salvation]

So 😂😂😂 true very clear as the dust

[@tenacitytone]

Gotta read 10 Qurans, master the early Arabic, traditions, scholary history to understand the differences. Wait until they find out there’s more than 30

[@TesseRact7228]

@@tenacitytone ... and then apply a whole bunch of taqiyya about them...

[@tenacitytone]

😂😂🤣🤣 taqiyah and throwing scholars under the bus 🚌 is the go to nowadays

[@MaqAttaq1]

I thought Islam claims that the words came from Jibreel’s mouth to Muhammad ears to manuscript (some ate by a goat) Now they want people to believe that the manuscript writers have linguistic nuances?

[@EarlHall-zi4cm]

That is the latest and most convenient lie, the linguistic nuance argument. Concocted by modern Islamic apologists, yet not proven nor is it able to stand up to the scrutiny of objective scholarships

[@nooneisprophetinhisownland2486]

There are 30+ arabic Qurans out there.

[@kentracer4129]

Yup

[@twenty9tv385]

Notice how muslim rockstar was quick to have Jai kicked out for saying idiot when the muslim who said "it's not saying chose" called him an idiot first... only to find out he is the idiot... islam is a joke.

[@EarlHall-zi4cm]

Fairness is not a characteristic of Muhammadans.

[@kentracer4129]

In fairness, this is what they've been taught and grown up with. It's a part of them and they defend it as truth from their god. So it's understandable that emotions run high, yet for a true believer our Holy Spirit gives us patience, humility, without fear. Be blessed.

[@woodyharrelson2624]

They are worried about their inconsistent books but if they had true faith they’d be trying to become martyrs on the battlefield.

[@Viiola24]

Exactly!

[@selekanotshenye4608]

Lord Jesus Christ is God, He is Alpha and Omega, the first and the Last, the beginning and the End Rev 22:12-13

[@1johnny1]

Amen 🙏

[@kingoftheworld22]

if he is alpha he cannot be omega 😂

[@JackDemoraz-lq4rd]

​@@kingoftheworld22it's the Greek way of saying the first and the last. Meaning it starts and ends with christ because he is timeless

[@Samuel-zd2lv]

Amen 🙏❤

[@selekanotshenye4608]

@@kingoftheworld22 Stay away from a fool,for you will never find knowledge on their lips Proverbs 14:7

[@saycheese6773]

He basically said you need a masters and deep research to read 2 different words in Arabic 😂😂😂😂😂

[@mcfcDJ51]

i’m saying it’s crazy

[@kentracer4129]

Yes a masters and a PhD to be a muslim. Crazy

[@letsreason9489]

Avery and the Godlogic team please invite Adam Seeker on to your panel. He is very good in Islamic theology and runs a very successful channel. He has streams twice a week and is a leading cause for apostasy in India and Pakistan. He speaks good English too. Please try it, you won't regret it.

[@skilosh]

@godlogic

[@Selahhhhhhhhhhh]

I hope he sees this

[@Viiola24]

The mere fact they need Hadiths or Tafsirs, etc already destroys Quran.

[@sheepinwolfesclothing]

Mmmm perfectly preserved....

[@johnscott7937]

Abdool: "Where does it say choose?!!". Avery & Jai: *go back a few lines to show him* Abdool: "NO U IDIOT, FINISH THE WHOLE THING BRO😡" 😂😂😂😂 classic Baal worshippers 🕋🌙🐍

[@dollahmusa6705]

Hudhaifa was afraid of their differences in the recitation of the Quran...Uthman sent to every Muslim province one copy of what they had copied, and ordered that all the other Quran materials, whether written in fragmentary manuscripts or whole copies, be burnt. (Hadith, Vol. 6, Book 61, #510). So here we have Uthman saying I'll burn the word of God and I'll decide just what should be in the Book.

[@kirongolden742]

Kind of like what king James did?

[@israelisthechosen]

@@kirongolden742king james is translation lol stupid

[@NATAR160]

​@@kirongolden742King James is a translation of Greek Bible to English, nothing to do with altering the original. Think for once!!! It's not like the only Greek copy of the Bible in the world was with King James, it's a copy they had they translated into English. Let's assume he changed things to favour him, how does that affect the original Greek Bible and all other copies of the Bible wherever they were in the world? Kai, this religion called Islam has really blocked a little t of brains!

[@dollahmusa6705]

Al Bukhari, a Muslim scholar of the 9th-10th century, and the most authoritative of the Muslim tradition compilers, writes that whenever Muhammad fell into one of his unpredictable trances his revelations were written on whatever was handy at the time. The leg or thigh bones of dead animals were used, as well as palm leaves, parchments, papers, skins, mats, stones, and bark.

[@feelyoung79]

He would also foam at the mouth would also receive "revelation" when he used the toilet.. 💨💨💩💩 Maybe that's where Satan plays with your bowels came from. 😮😮😮

[@ImaHaddad]

Those "revelations" were meant to be memorized, not written down. The guys who claimed to have been told about those revelations had conflicting narratives. They were deleted in battle. Others cane up with contradictory tales that were then burned by uthman.

[@mlandenizwane3955]

😂😂😂😂liars 😮

[@BalooBearYeah]

So funny how Muslims insist you have to be a scholar in this, that and the other. This is all based on the idea that the Quran is a piece of divine work. However, this has yet to be proven. In other words, it is no different to any other library book and should be treated as such.

[@cedrichartz6426]

They pointed fawzi for better knowledge........then fawzi let them down

[@aletheasummer8931]

Where that rock dude learned his spanish 😮, that conjugation of the verb “go” (vamos) was horrible. You don’t add “nos” (we) to the verb when you already using the pronoun at the beginning of the sentence: NOSotros vamos ☑️; he said NOSotros vamoNOS ❌

[@smkvibez2684]

I don't no Spanish but just using common sense I knew it didn't sound right lol

[@dqschannel]

He needs to read Bridges Translation Of the Ten Qira'ats by Fadel Soliman.

[@greyside1696]

WHERE IS PART 2!!!!! Dont make me cry please..

[@123dsj123]

Three-in-one: Consider “Time”: It is one (and only one). Time has been one from the beginning of creation. However, “Time” is a trinity, because within the oneness of “time”, there are three different periods: (1) past, (2) present, and (3) future. * If “Time” had intelligence and could speak, “Time” would have three different points of reference from which to think, to reason, and to be consciously aware of itself. In other words, the past which exists within the “oneness of time” would say, “I am time.” And the past would be correct because the past is time. The present which also exists within the “oneness of time” would say, “I am time.” And the present would be correct because the present is time. The future which exists within the “oneness of time” would say, “I am time.” And the future would be correct because the future is time. * The United States Government is one government - it has only one vote at the United Nations (UN) Council. But the United States Government is a trinity because within the oneness of the U.S. Government, there are three different governments: (1) Executive Branch of Government, (2) Legislature Branch of Government, and (3) Judicial Branch of Government. * In fact, un-like “Time” which has no intelligence of its own, the U.S. Government has intelligence. The U.S. Government knows it has three different points of reference within its “oneness” to say, “I am the U.S. Government.” (1) The Executive Branch of the U.S. Government says, “I am the U.S. Government.” (2) The Legislature Branch of the U.S. Government says, “I am the U.S. Government.” (3) The Judicial Branch of the U.S. Government says, “I am the U.S. Government.” * God is one. God is a trinity: (1) Father, (2) Son, and (3) Holy Spirit. In the eternity past, before creation, the one God has three different reference points within Himself to say, “I am God.” (1) The Father says, “I am God”. (2) The Son says, “I am God.” (3) The Holy Spirit says, “I am God.” * The Message of the Bible: 2,000 years ago, one of the three Persons within the “Oneness of God” clothed (or covered) Himself in human flesh by way of the Virgin Mary; and He walked among mankind. He died for the sins of man. On the third day, He rose again back to life. And because He conquered death and lives, all men who put their trust in Him can live also.

[@AlQadiysAmin]

Lol I remember this. They were PRESSED, man 🤣

[@Viiola24]

Quran needed corrections??? Did he just destroyed Islam.

[@Chris85.]

Why you cut abruptly, post full Bro.

[@Viiola24]

Really? You’re gonna compare alleged Allah’s speech with humans??? I thought NO WORD can be changed???

[@Viiola24]

6000??? Bible has over 31 000 😅 It took me few hours to read through 30 chapters of Quran. Bible has almost 800 000 words. While Quran has not even 80 000 words. It should be easy for you to read Quran 10 times.

[@PaulSmith-vn4lu]

Im so glad the quran is clear because if it wasn't, I hate to think what the argument would be😂

[@cynthiagarza273]

There guys on the panel are like bring these guys up but don't have any knowledge at all

[@dqschannel]

MuslimRockster ran from debating Embryology with me.

[@undertheglassmoon2239]

Muslim rockstar?? In music or in what part?? Ridiculous, bwahahaha

[@jesusforever4729]

The black pieces of rock in the Kabba ✝️♥️🙏👍

[@shibahtash4700]

​@@jesusforever4729😂😂😂😂where do you guys these words 😂😂

[@jesusforever4729]

@@shibahtash4700 Seriously Braddar....these are alien rocks from distant stars. And because they are Islamic, they are called muslim rockstars🤯

[@shibahtash4700]

@@jesusforever4729 you win 🏆 🙌 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@undertheglassmoon2239]

@@jesusforever4729 Is that same rock whose steal Moses undies??

[@cosmiccruxbot3841]

It's funny how arabic speaking individuals pronounce the english _"It"_ as _"ith"_ . You can clearly tell they are Arabic.😊 Anyhow, great demolition derby duo, Avery and Jai. The momins got schooled by the dynamic death squad. ❤❤

[@Earthling327]

it's a debate, like a barcelona fan against a real madrid fan, trying to explain why the ball is round

[@0xac829]

None of this matters really. Debating these finer points about Islam is like painting a sinking ship. You are wasting your time Muslims. Come to Christ.

[@beefymario88]

“Please show me the evidence where Uthman collected anything.”

[@jaybjay4121]

"Nosotros vamonos" it could have different meanings in spanish Becouse when you say "vamonos" to a person its like you inviting them to somewher. But when you say "nosotros vamonos" it could mean that you are telling to the person that you are talking with, that you and others are going somewhere

[@Viiola24]

I don’t even know what for you’re debating the “clear” book specifics when it doesn’t even say it’s the word of Allah 😂 Waste of time.

[@mbahhans5141]

Bring Fuzzy bring Fuzzy Fuzzy can't say anything. The fear of godlogic is the beginning of wisdom to the moslems.

[@ranimouf]

Why you guys are debating with somebody that is not familiar with the Arabic language and wants to prove something that he has absolutely no clue about. It 's time wasting. Godlogic needs to learn the quiraate in Arabic and come back and present his issue with them. His name is Atabari not tabri.

[@ehhe4381]

The reason for 10 recitations is not the different Arab accents. The reason is that Muhammed told one Arab one recitation and then told another Arab a slightly different recitation (the profit is only human). When the Arabs found out they came to blows and to avoid bloodshed, Muhammad made up an excuse: there ate different qiraats.

[@ehhe4381]

BTW, they were both qureyshi so they had the same "accent".

[@ehhe4381]

Musnad Ahmad 277, 278

[@Selahhhhhhhhhhh]

So the Prophet was misquoting Jibriel? I wonder which version allah has in the mother of the book in heaven.

[@pfevrier01]

The only standing of Islam is the statement that there is only one e God. The whole quran is full with contradiction, but believers take this, because they are thinking that they are the only true worshipprs. This only on the fact that they believe in one God and not Jewish.. if you read critical and dig deeper and look to the fruits and the life of the messenger, then you get conclusions.

[@sarkiskhoury1752]

I thought god and Quran said if you have any doubt about the Quran that’s make it not from god , one Quran in the tablet, so haw about different words different meanings, we need some Muslim to tell us witch Quran god have in the tablet???🛑

[@HappyCamper84]

Islam is self-defeating on so many levels.

[@baijuriismail4155]

I know Christian is does not follow logic

[@HappyCamper84]

@baijuriismail4155 I don't think you know what you are talking about. The developments based on physics in the Christian West prove you wrong. If they didn't use logic, most of their research, innovation, and understanding wouldn't have helped the world so much. Take care 🙏

[@jaredmelendez7262]

Bro nosotros vamanos makes no sence LOL please stop 😂😂😂 alhamduli Jesus!

[@zulfiqarashraf5619]

Hello .this is only waisting the time from both side. Muslim and Christian both do not responsible what earlier schalor has done.changed or not change. Today is this reliable for trust or not.

[@chfun999]

I thought fuzzy is a big guys who knows much about qiraat then he came with lame reasoning that ive been hearig over and over again Pathetic mo

[@theclashcalling_]

I think you mean 'colour'!

[@mbahhans5141]

Where's Fuzzy😂😂😂😂

[@sarkiskhoury1752]

😂

[@beastff3228]

9:30 respect for muslim cousin being fair. Cooked them godlogic 🔥🍗

[@IslamEducations]

احمدالیسوع

[@dereklee2590]

These Muslim be interrupt get all this time let Godlogic explain it show

[@ehhe4381]

20:08

[@ehhe4381]

23:39

[@lyndonsanchez7849]

Jesus is Lord!!?hallelujah!!!!

[@Raphael55587]

Who else scared of being a Muslim... ?

[@greenthumb_richy1749]

All bad. Not even your Spanish is right

[@baijuriismail4155]

Why wasting your time listen to this God not logic. If him scrutiny the bible you will not believe the christianity

[@alonzoharris326]

Avery believes in three gods.

[@Wally-vh8ws]

And mohammed is your ture god prove me wrong?

[@RaptureIsNEAR7634]

Is the word of allah created or uncreated

[@marvineodidi]

Alonzo believes in a pagan Moon god.

[@alonzoharris326]

@@Wally-vh8ws I can easily disprove that. No muslim claims that Mohamed is God. No Muslim claims that Mohamed has essential divine properties and attributes. Christians claims that three persons are God. Christians give all these persons essential divine properties and attributes. That’s three gods.

[@alonzoharris326]

@@RaptureIsNEAR7634 The speech of god is uncreated.

[@user-es1pg1uh7z]

Why dont they wanna let Avery talk

[@dadlanighaniabdghanikhair1500]

THE DIFFERENCE IN READINGS. OF QURAAN. DO NOT CHANGE THE. MEANING OF THE QURAN. IT Will ONLY TURN THE THINGKING BRAIN OF CHRISTIAN. TO SHEET BRAIN

[@user-es1pg1uh7z]

What a lot of bull this guy fuzzy is saying i think he wanna fool christians because he understands arabic

[@user-es1pg1uh7z]

With all these lies.ISLAM dies

[@dadlanighaniabdghanikhair1500]

JESUS NEED. SOMETHING. TO CREATE SOMETHING. ALLAH. JUST SAY. BE AND IT BECOME. ALLAH CREATED THING FROM NOTHING

[@selekanotshenye4608]

Lord Jesus Christ is God, He is Alpha and Omega, the first and the Last, the beginning and the End Rev 22:12-13

[@selekanotshenye4608]

Lord Jesus Christ is God, He is Alpha and Omega, the first and the Last, the beginning and the End Rev 22:12-13