Godlogic's Top Proofs for Christianity Examined

[@cledwards]

"He was pierced for our transgressions" is a intropolation the Hebrew word is meholal ... according to the Strongs concordance the first meaning is to be profaned or polluted ritually or sexually. The Catholic church translated it as peiced from the greek translation of the OT in their Latin Vulgate... and that made it into the KJV.

[@SilverRaysBeauty44]

@@cledwards And what do the other meanings say for the same Strings entry???

[@keitumetsemodipa3012]

What do you mean by interpolation?

[@LearnFromTheLight]

@@keitumetsemodipa3012 fabrication

[@themanwithnoname3145]

I speak Hebrew and yes, mekholel is to violate sacred laws, but it can also mean to wound or to get hurt (could also mean not even in the physical sense but in the spiritual sense, such as uncleanliness), neither of which is pierced.

[@keitumetsemodipa3012]

@@LearnFromTheLight Fabrication as in, the word can't mean pierced?

[@dawahoverdunya]

About to watch the video…I’ve got high hopes 😃 Edit: Once again🤓….you need to verify the new testament before you claim it fulfills prophecy. If an anonymous author writes a book aligning perfectly with prophecies in the Book of Mormon….that would not prove that anonymous book or the Book of Mormon to be true. You need to verify the authenticity of both texts. But keep trying 😇👍

[@ZDL679]

You know what we call rubbing salt to the wounds Rumzi but what you have done this is what we call cooking a steak well done and you know what I say LET THE BROTHER COOK Jokes asides may Allah bless you for defending the honour of Islam.

[@SilverRaysBeauty44]

Your reasoning is 100% backwards. You must be a rookie... What's one way scholars verify ancient text? By looking at events that the text mentions and seeing if it has external confirmation.. This is precisely the reason that you Rumzi need to prove the Quran's version of the Crucifixion is correct before you claim its from God.

[@Mahid6079]

​@@SilverRaysBeauty44 I disagree. If Quran is from God, then quran's version of crucification would be true. So the first priority is to verify if it is really from God or not.

[@ZDL679]

@@SilverRaysBeauty44I think you need to realise what the quran states “And [for] their saying, ‘Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah.’ And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.” (Quran 4:157) Remember the lying requires intention when they were spreading falsehood they truly did believe he was crucified and naturally that would be what was passed on history but they didn’t how we don’t know how.

[@SilverRaysBeauty44]

@ZDL679 You made a theological misstep. You stated that "they" would naturally pass this on in history. Perhaps some of "the Jews" who were subject to the divine illusion did pass this on, this still doesn't account for the plausibility that the reports that people in history were hearing were those coming from other eyewitnesses at the crucifixion who were NOT subject to the divine illusion. This destroys Rumzi 's claim. In other words, history that reports Jesus was crucified may very well be getting it's information from eyewitnesses who saw Jesus crucified and who were NOT seeing an illusion.

[@SSC0002]

This is why they spend their time *TRYING* (emphasis added) to disprove Islam instead of promoting their own religion

[@bristolrovers27]

Christianity and The Bible are very vulnerable to intelligent investigation - Core tenants of Christianity are not found or bare mentioned in The Bible which of course begs the question why ?

[@Røtisi]

@@SSC0002 it’s because they know they have absolutely *NOTHING* to promote. So they waste their resources, time and energy trying to debunk a beautiful faith which they don’t know crap about.

[@worldfamous_23]

😂😂 do you really believe you have to makeup stories to disprove Islam in 2024??😂😂 The struggle is real

[@TheGuiltyGuys]

@@worldfamous_23 thats quite literally what people do.

[@averroesthecommentator2989]

@@worldfamous_23 Yeah thats literally what you people do, then you pretend you dont 😂😂😂😂

[@shadanns]

"And most of them follow not except assumption. Indeed, assumption avails not against the truth at all. Indeed, Allah is Knowing of what they do." Surah Yunus - verse 36

[@shadanns]

There is a reason these preachers never talk about evidences for christianity and only attack Islam, because evidences are vague and weak or non existent

[@Røtisi]

They’re not even vague; most of their sources are outright unreliable or, at best, of very questionable authenticity. They have nothing to boast about. The majority of Christian doctrines presented within the gospels are heretical and contradict many core messages and teachings established in earlier books of the Old Testament and elsewhere. If anything, Christianity is steeped in Platonic ideas that run counter to the spirit of the Hebrew Bible. In general, Jewish beliefs in the 1st century CE had a Greek influence.

[@Sheharyar-lg6qx]

​@@Maximo-p6kYou demonstrate a high level of ignorance. You're probably confusing "scholars" with "preachers". Muslim scholars wouldn't be scholars of they don't talk about Islam 💀 and the majority of Muslims preachers defend Islam as well. Honestly I'm not surprised that a Christian has such a low criteria for what a "scholar" is

[@IbnIjaz]

@@Maximo-p6k You don't know of any- dawah people and laymen Muslims dance circles around your nonsensical theology.

[@Sheharyar-lg6qx]

​@@Maximo-p6k​@Maximo-p6k You demonstrate a high level of ignrce. You're probably confusing "scholars" with "preachers". Muslim scholars wouldn't be scholars of they don't talk about Islam 💀 and the majority of Muslims preachers defend Islam as well. Honestly I'm not surprised that a Christian has such a low criteria for what a "scholar" is

[@Maximo-p6k]

@Sheharyar-lg6qx I'm not Christian, I'm agnostic but at least Jesus wasn't a ped0

[@kkunknownkk]

This is the same guy who once on a tiktok live said the prophecy of Muhammed pbuh was false because the people who built - and are building tall towers in the middle east are not bear-footed and naked. The bar he sets for islam is in the seventh heaven, meanwhile this nonsense is sufficient for christianity to him.

[@noticing33]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@ren.8137]

Lol literally

[@WelcomeToTheRezvolution]

This is what Christians do. They have such a low bar for their own religion.

[@moizahmed4705]

Exactly. Christians claim that there are over 300 prophecies in the Old Testament which have been fulfilled by Jesus. The problem with this claim is that if one examines these prophecies, you will find that they are not specific and they must be stretched in order to make them fit the person of Jesus. For example, the Gospel of Matthew wrongly referenced a prophecy: *When he arose, he took the young child [Jesus] and his mother by night, and departed into Egypt: And was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son. [Matthew 2:14-15]* So according to the Gospel of Matthew, there’s a prophecy in the Old Testament that was fulfilled by Jesus. But when one goes back to the book of Hosea in the Old Testament where the passage is referenced from, you will find that only half the passage has been quoted: *When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and called my son out of Egypt. [Hosea 11:1]* As you can see, when read in full, rather than being a prophecy about Jesus, this verse was in fact speaking of a past event, the exodus of the Israelites at the time of Moses. In another example, Matthew misattributes a prophecy to Jeremiah: *Then what was spoken by Jeremiah the prophet was fulfilled: “They took the thirty pieces of silver, the price set on him by the people of Israel, and they used them to buy the potter’s field, as the Lord commanded me.” [Matthew 27:9-10]* Here the Gospel of Matthew is making the point that the betrayal of Jesus by Judas for thirty pieces of silver was foretold by Jeremiah. The problem is that when one looks to the Book of Jeremiah in the Old Testament, no such prophecy is found. It is actually found in the Book of Zechariah: *I told them, “If you think it best, give me my pay; but if not, keep it.” So they paid me thirty pieces of silver. And the Lord said to me, “Throw it to the potter”-the handsome price at which they valued me! So I took the thirty pieces of silver and threw them to the potter at the house of the Lord. [Zechariah **11:12**-13]* Notice that the details are different. Whereas the Gospel of Matthew mentions the purchase of a field for thirty pieces of silver, Zechariah mentions no such thing. So not only is the wrong book of the Old Testament named in the Gospel of Matthew, but the contents are different. Then there are cases where the New Testament would quote prophecies that don't even exist: *He told them, “This is what is written: The Messiah will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day, [Luke 24:46]* *Whoever believes in me, as Scripture has said, rivers of living water will flow from within them.” [John 7:38]* Nowhere would you find the prophecy of Messiah being suffered and then rise on the third day in the entire Old Testament. Nor does it say anywhere in the Scripture that rivers of living water will flow from within the believers of Messiah. If Christians have no issue accepting these standard of prophecies for Jesus, then in the name of fairness and consistency they should adopt at least a similar standard for Prophet Muhammad. Christians should adopt a methodology that is fair and consistent when it comes to finding prophecies of Jesus and Muhammad in the Old Testament. We can’t have one set of standards for Prophet Muhammad, and another for Jesus.

[@shalmaahad6915]

😂😂 This Doglogic is a complete joke! I can only assume his followers are mainly 🤡

[@Truth.seeker.1000]

History is repeating itself for 3 time 1 farid 107 lies of Christian prince 2 Deenresponds debunk testify 3 farid start debunking god logic Love From india 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳

[@niccolopaganini1782]

Kaise bhai?

[@General_Slayer]

🇧🇩❤🇮🇳☪️

[@jh24888]

Do you speak English at all?

[@bhatsahil9267]

U forget libyano the orthodox muslim he makes better videos then all 3 u mention here his criticism of Christianity nd problem with biblical Jesus is way better as he makes very short videos it is difficult to counter all points

[@Bob-un4tf]

You are a disgrace to India

Saying God was wounded and hurt in a sentence is so crazy to me. And people wholeheartedly believe this... The CREATOR OF ALL HEAVENS AND THE EARTH, hurt and wounded? This is pure blasphemy in itself, let alone associating people with him...

Problem: I am starving Muslim worldview: God is a king who orders for something to be done and it is, blessings come upon me through other people, angels, environment etc. God has control of everything and its easy for him. Christian worldview: God comes down in earth and is beaten up to a pulp by the corrupted traders trying to get a piece of bread for me. Tell me which is more befitting for the THE CREATOR? Enough said.

[@revealislam-christianprinc6478]

If you believed in the prophet then you won't reject it

[@EmperorHaII]

Yet the muslim god can't enter his own creation? At the same time, he supposedly depends to the lowest heaven every third part of the night and he also spoke to Musa from a tree? Which one is it?😅

​@@EmperorHaII Allah wasnt himself present in the burning bush lmao. Allah willed to send the message in that manner. He didnt transform into a bush. You are blatantly ignorant. Also you seem to be pretty ignorant about poetic language when you take things so literally. When it is said Allah descends in the lowest heaven means Allah takes importance of our worship during late night hours and they are accounted as great deeds in the day of judgement. Also, im a software developer. Consider me building the SIMS game and the game has issues. What would make more sense: 1. I use my developing tools, code, debugging to solve the issue. Matters that a sims character has no idea what that is because its beyond its perception. 2. I become a sim and fail to even become the leader of the sims and get killed off. The whole premise is insulting to our intelligence. Allah is the CREATOR OF HEAVENS AND THE EARTH. And everything in between. Allah works in his ways that we cannot percieve. Thinking Allah needs to be come a dude to guide humanity is exactly what an ignorant caveman would think because he is not enlightened of higher form of speech and expression.

[@madaxwayne]

@@EmperorHaII christianity=god who was born,slept,forgot and died Islam=God who always existed,never slumbers and is all knowing Anyone with half a brain can tell the difference between a fake god and a real god

[@TheSecondJinglebi-xs9hj]

I love how he has to disregards all kinds of context, disregards verses in the old testament like "god is not a man" or "i (god) do not desire sin and sacrifice", disregards all the countless bible contradictions and errors, disregards the lack of preservation, disregards the lack of simple logic in issues like the trinity, only to come up with "prophecies" that couldve just been people wanting to fit jesus as. into these so called prophecies and therefore revolving their made up doctrine around that. Its not like even if it was a prophecy from an actual perfect book of god that people can just take someone who happened to be crucified and claim that all these things fit to him lmao

[@tatooinenative860]

Ain’t no way he’s into it. Probably just wants the money. If he was really into it then he would adhere to it and cease his non Christian behavior.

[@Ali-zt9ky]

If Jesus crushed Satan and Satan was defeated by him then no one can claim like Avery does that it was Satan who came to Prophet Muhammad ‎ﷺ

[@VRALLSTARS17]

Their own Bible literally states that Satan cannot work against himself

[@EmperorHaII]

You don't know the Bible. ‭‭John 14:30 NKJV‬‬ [30] I will no longer talk much with you, for the ruler of this world is coming, and he has nothing in Me. ‭‭I Peter 5:8-9 NKJV‬‬ [8] Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour. [9] Resist him, steadfast in the faith, knowing that the same sufferings are experienced by your brotherhood in the world.

[@ZDL679]

@@EmperorHaIIwhy though the Christian belief is that Jesus pbuh died for his followers sin so there’s no reason to be good.

[@kashifkhan-yr8wi]

My biggest issue with Christians finding such prophesies about Jesus from the scripture of Jewish people is this . None of the Jewish people believe that these are prophesies at all, let alone being prophesies about the Messiah Christians would pick up a random book and open up a random page. If the text mentions a guy getting beaten up, a guy getting punished, a guy getting slapped etc., the Christians would immediately that its a prophesy about Jesus without even knowing the book

[@kakumbaibrahim1145]

Dude u almost killed me with laughter😅. Nyc one

[@kakumbaibrahim1145]

Dude u almost killed me with laughter😅. Nyc one

[@abelzek7509]

So Rashi is muslim? Randam

[@kashifkhan-yr8wi]

@@abelzek7509 not only Rashi, but no Jewish scholar believe or have ever had the interpretation that the Messiah will suffer and di3 for the crimes of others

[@SamuelMatt0020]

Jesus fulfil 300+ prophesies of Old Testament , why Muslim not able to find out few prophesis which Muhummad fulfilled

[@andremosselier3018]

In definitive, KaffirLogic is absolutely dishonest about what he says, just like we already knew. He should start doing pranks again and stop this ridiculous behaviour. He is making Christians look like fools

[@dzvw]

That actually works in our favor. He makes Christians look like fools, and drive them towards Islam.

[@WeAreGhuraba]

He used to do pranks?

[@andremosselier3018]

@WeAreGhuraba Yes when he was younger he used to do silly jokes disturbing people. His face is enough qualifications to annoy bystanders

[@WeAreGhuraba]

@@andremosselier3018 lool

[@OrthoNepali]

Farid is always a great man when it comes to defending Islam. Thank you for taking your time. May Allah reward you

[@Iammram]

Their whole religion is based on assumptions and guess work, not 1 thing of their theology can they point to a teaching and say "Look, here is so and so teaching the Trinity, or Jesus being God, etc." And this video is just another example of their ways of stretching and reaching to fit what they want. Another thing about the Isaiah chapter, it's speaking in the past tense, it's not a prophecy, and basic reading would show that... "He was" should be the "duh" moment...but apparently isn't. Nevertheless, well done as usual Farid.

[@EmperorHaII]

Muslims have truly found a way to make themselves happy. What do you mean there's nothing futuristic about this chapter?😂😂😂 ‭‭Isaiah 53:2 NKJV‬‬ [2] For He shall grow up before Him as a tender plant, And as a root out of dry ground. He has no form or comeliness; And when we see Him, There is no beauty that we should desire Him. What does "He shall grow..." mean? Is that in the past tense? What about this next verse: ‭‭Isaiah 53:11 NKJV‬‬ [11] "He shall see the labor of His soul, and be satisfied. By His knowledge My righteous Servant shall justify many, For He shall bear their iniquities"? The words "He shall see", are they in the past tense, according to you? The biggest problem with Muslims is that they don't read. They believe anything and everything that their Dawah teachers propagate, without checking the facts for themselves. Yet, Jesus said this: ‭‭Matthew 12:36-37 NKJV‬‬ [36] But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment. [37] For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.”

[@uatiger1]

Isaiah 42. A far more clear Prophecy of Prophet Mohammad SAW than anything Avery brought forth as supposed Prophecy for Jesus AS.

[@Im_Sanenough]

And the chapter also clearly shows that it IS a prophecy throughout it with the use of the future tense and the entire part from verse 18-25 talking about Israel having to listen to what God's about to bring forth

[@EmperorHaII]

Muhammad is not mentioned in the chapter. Is music haram in Islam? Read the entire chapter and explain to me how that can be a reference to Muhammad if music is not allowed in Islam

[@Im_Sanenough]

@EmperorHaII it doesn't have to You claim isaiah53 is about Jesus but it doesn't mention his name. It doesn't even mention the messiah or anything related to that. BTW I'll give you a treat. Check the Hebrew in the first verse. Although the word atmekh is not Mohammad (obviously) it is close to the name Ahmed, which is another name for the prophet Mohammad s.a.w

[@greetedblunt8020]

Knowing Avery aka Doglogic, that girl was probably a paid Christian actress

[@GaryMillerRC]

Bottom line is: if your entire belief is based on an interpretation of a few verses where other interpretations already exist, you don't have much of a basis for your faith at all.

[@General_Slayer]

^^this , it needs to be unambigious

[@Leon-jp7ch]

Now Avery mentioned Zechariah chapter 12 verse 10 and of course he jumped over verse 9 😊

[@keitumetsemodipa3012]

What about verse 9?

[@anthonydavix]

@@keitumetsemodipa3012 You don't watch the video?

[@keitumetsemodipa3012]

@@anthonydavix I saw but he didn't say much, he just said it's not tangible, that's not much to go off of

[@GotessDiener]

@@keitumetsemodipa3012 It is an end times battle. Zechariah 12:9 On that day I will set out to destroy all the nations that attack Jerusalem. If you read from the beginning it sets the scene of all nations of the earth ready to attack Jerusalem and god ready to help protect it. The piercing is probably about some soldier getting stabbed with a weapon. If you read John 19:37 the unknown author of John tries to say the prophecy is fulfilled by Jesus getting stabbed with a spear but christians today try to say it is about the crucifixion. Basically ripping OT verses out of context to fit a narrative. Hope this helps brother.

[@EmperorHaII]

​@keitumetsemodipa3012 Muslims love to pretend like they have some special knowledge of the Bible. The whole of Zechariah 12 is about God coming to the rescue of Jerusalem in the future and this LORD was pierced by the same people he's rescuing. I also don't see how verse 9 is meant to help their case

[@ishtar7441]

Dr Ali Ataie has a great video about Isaiah 53.

[@Leon-jp7ch]

No, Farid, there are not few problems. There are many problems with Avery claims.

[@scientiest12]

His thought process is inconsistent. He delivers half facts and the rest half is just his mind games buzz words and clever tactics to convince or confuse his opponents.

[@EmperorHaII]

There is nothing wrong with what Avery said. Muslim debaters use Taqiyya to defend Islam, and its quite amazing how all you sheeple are willing to believe their every lie. Why won't Farid or any of the Dawah guys give us a single verse in the Quran in which the word "ahad" was not translated as "One of" or "None of" or "Anyone"? Don't you find it suspicious that the word "ahad" only gets translated as "unique" in Q112:1 and nowhere else in the Quran? Who's the deceiver here?😅

[@idrea43]

Common christian claim: "jesus fulfils 300 prophesies in the Old Testament!" In reality, jesus is retrospectively injected into the OT wherever there is loose parallels to his life depicted in the gospels. Here's a breakdown: The reason why appealing to prophesy about jesus in the OT doesn’t work is because of the presupposition that jesus was a *divine dying rising saviour mangod who vicariously atones for the sins of the world* . The prophesies said to be about jesus in the OT are always related to these motifs, so if he isn’t really any of these things then it’s proof that the prophesies aren’t about him but Christians are forcibly injecting jesus into the OT verses with these invalid interpretations. Here’s how we know: It is a false presupposition because jesus was none of these things according to scholarship (and an unbiased reading of the NT). None of his earliest followers (original Christianity) took him as these things (bold text) either, but these things were a later development disconnected from jesus and his disciples. The early followers took him as the messiah, a prophet, a healer, and an apocalypticist, his death was not for human sin nor was he divine. The prophesies attributed to jesus are always to establish him in light of these motifs of him suffering for sin or being divine. So if these motifs about jesus developed later and are falsely attributed to Jesus, then the prophesies attributed to jesus in relation to these motifs must also be falsely attributed to him, and they are in fact down to a misinterpretation by Christians (retrospectively injecting jesus into OT) For example later Christians say “Jesus died for our sins” (that’s a false motif that the early followers didn’t have nor did jesus claim but later Christians did). The later Christians continue: “and it’s prophesied in the OT that he’d die for our sins, with the suffering servant pierced for our iniquities! This is jesus”… Jesus didn’t die for human sin historically and he didn’t claim it nor did his disciples, so this is not prophesy about him since it’s predicated on a false understanding of christ, it’s just these Christians reading jesus into it erroneously. In reality, the only gospel to identify jesus as pierced is john which is the last one, which is evidence of this embellishing of jesus by the gospel author in order to make him retrospectively fit the OT. The other 3 gospels do not document jesus being pierced [nailed on the cross or ran through with a spear] In reality, it is a form of confirmation bias, retrospectively injecting jesus into the OT wherever they see any loose parallel (Isaiah’s suffering servant mentioned above, with similar motifs to jesus. But Isaiah’s suffering servant was based on Jeremiah, due to the intertextual points of contact in the text) (Isaiah 9:6; the titles don’t align with jesus, he was never the prince of peace nor almighty god nor everlasting father) (He shall be called Emanuel- jesus never was called emanuel). All of the prophesies Christians mention being about jesus are in fact about other figures.

[@mrdr8695]

Farid, please continue the live streams where you bring on Christians. As for the guest to help you I recommend you bring on someone from Dots Connected 2 Islam.

[@nabz5538]

Godlogics face looks like he's trolling 100% of the time don't know how to explain it

[@Dorlisa-h4w]

My first time watching you and I loved your video! Alhamdulillah 🤲🏽😎 keep telling um bro.

[@Ali-zt9ky]

Zachariah chapter 12 from the context it is clear this is an end of time prophecy where God will save Jerusalem, give people time for repentance and fullfilling the covenant. Some even said this will be in the time of Gog and Magog and yes they will probably pierce people.

[@EmperorHaII]

Yet this God was pierced according to verse 10 and he compares himself to the first born son. Interesting

[@OneAllahOneMessage]

People Love to not take accountability for themselves. Love having someone pay for them

[@Ali-zt9ky]

Psalms 22 is a false translation because it does not say they pierced my hand and my feet is says in the original Hebrew like a lion they come at my hands and feet. Another false translation. Psalms 22 was simply about David feeling left by God and him being surrounded by his enemies but him still having hope that God will save him. Another false translation and reinterpretation to fit Jesus in it

[@Nola-2000]

The Septuagint and Dead Sea Scrolls are the same as the Christian Bible. And also if the psalm 22 was used in Evangiles it is indeed because the Apostles also read "pierced".

[@GotessDiener]

@@Nola-2000 The Dead Sea scrolls are inconclusive and the septugiant word for Ps 22 is "To dig." If you look at the concordances on bible hub they are similar "to dig." Christians will say "to dig" is the same as "to pierce." None of the unknown gospel authors references the Ps 22 "digging". Only the unknown author of John references Zachariah 12:10 but he makes up a spear piercing story in John 19:34 but if you read form the beginning of Zachariah it is about ALL the nations attacking Jerusalem which did not happen.

[@cardndmch]

​​​​​​​​​​​@@Nola-2000 first it's not true that they are same. Second apostles also believed that it's better to be alone than married. They were wrong in their thinking, contradicting the very beginning of the Bible: _"it's not good to a man be alone"_ and it will be not the first time. They knew nothing about the Scriptures, only after they became amateurs, misinterpreting everything by their bias and ignorance.

[@cardndmch]

​​​​​​@@GotessDienerthe corrélation between greek and hebrew it's failed by simple examples, in which God's names are desecrated by the greek translations,.like _"Lord to my Lord;"_ nonsense, vs _"YHWH (...) la Adonay"_ Also Septuagint have censored/edited passages by the R. Empire. Romans really didn't liked the hebrew commandments.

[@Nola-2000]

@@cardndmch Dead Sea is in hebrew.

[@Ali-zt9ky]

Isaiah 53 is talking about Israel who were identified as one single person. This is talking about the Jewish exile. Note it also says in verse 10 he will see his seed “zeerah” in Hebrew in this case it is literal because it is in this case possessive. Jesus never had seed nor saw him. It also says his life will be extended if Jesus is God how can his life be extended because if his life was extended that means it still has to end someday. It also says in the beginning that he has nothing that is desired about him so you wanna tell me that Jesus was not someone who was desired? Also some Rabbi’s suggested that this is about Jeremiah because look at these verses. Isaiah 53 7 He was oppressed and afflicted, yet he did not open his mouth; he was led like a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before its shearers is silent, so he did not open his mouth. 8 By oppression and judgment he was taken away. Yet who of his generation protested? For he was cut off from the land of the living; for the transgression of my people he was punished. And Jeremiah 11 19 I had been like a gentle lamb led to the slaughter; I did not realize that they had plotted against me, saying, “Let us destroy the tree and its fruit; let us cut him off from the land of the living, that his name be remembered no more.” Similar language is used and it could perfectly fit Jeremiah too. The way Christians have read it was a reinterpretation of the text and force Jesus into it and a way to demonstrate this is by reading the crucifixion accounts from Mark then Matthew and Luke and eventually John, you will see clearly how the are trying it to make it more violent everytime.

[@EmperorHaII]

The rabbis don't know what they are talking about. When did Jeremiah get bruised for our iniquities? Are we healed by his wounds? Did he see his offspring too and were his days prolonged? Did he share the spoils with anyone? That's a lie. You said Jesus couldn't have prolonged his days if he's God. That's dishonesty on your part. Do Christians believe that Jesus went to the cross as God (who is spirit), or did he go to the cross as a man? ‭‭Revelation 1:17-18 NKJV‬‬ [17] And when I saw Him, I fell at His feet as dead. But He laid His right hand on me, saying to me, “Do not be afraid; I am the First and the Last. [18] I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. Amen. And I have the keys of Hades and of Death.

[@jersey9435]

Masha Allah very nice explanation. Love it. Jazakallah.

[@Xxxwwwwww]

Love from Kenya bro

[@xado4271]

I've refuted Avery too should I make more?

[@thebayyinahstudent]

11:00 believing Genesis 3: 15 about jesus would mean verse 16 applies to Mary: [16]To the woman he said, “I will make your pains in childbearing very severe; with painful labor you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you.”

[@nurulhassan2219]

It says children. Who are children? It's Adam's two sons and two daughters. God knows best.

[@thebayyinahstudent]

@@nurulhassan2219 godlogic used this verse to mean the child is Jesus, then he needs to be consistent and apply the next verse to Mary, you see

[@EmperorHaII]

The verse says "Seed" and women don't produce seed, even though the Quran says they do (Q86:5-6). Verse 16 is generic and it refers to all the children that the woman shall bear and it's not referring specifically to the seed who shall crush the enemy

[@MuhammadabdurrehmanJami-vz8do]

I believe that somewhere in the old testament after Isaiah some other prophet also spoke about himself in those terms so i will go check and edit in the reference for that Here it is Ezekiel 4:4-5: "4 Then lie on your left side, and I will lay the iniquity of the house of Israel upon you. You shall bear their iniquity for the number of days that you lie on your side. 5 For I have assigned to you a number of days, three hundred and ninety days, equal to the number of the years of their iniquity. So long shall you bear the iniquity of the house of Israel." And I believe that Jeremiah also said words like such if I'm being perfectly honest hold on let me go check Yes it was Jeremiah 11 19

[@MuhammadabdurrehmanJami-vz8do]

By the way this is also before Jesus too and after Isaiah

[@Ali-zt9ky]

Exactly Isaiah 53 is just about talking about Israel as a single identified person and speaking about him in the past so all was The people did would be referred to as him​@@MuhammadabdurrehmanJami-vz8do

[@thatonedude6950]

Asaalam alaykum brother farid

[@ZeroCelsius777]

At 9:34...Br. Farid...also, when you keep reading the following verses you see in Psalms 22:19 - 21...this person (David...PBUH) is asking "GOD" to DELIVER HIM... Then, in verses Psalms 22:22 - 24...he IS DELIVERED and says that he will in turn...verse 22..."I will declare your name to my people; in the assembly I will praise you."

[@mohammedsheik7329]

Jesus (AS) clearly said 'The only true God is the Father' and 'The Father is greater than I'. He also said that he had come to affirm what was in the original Torah. Now if the Torah was not already corrupted at that time or neither was it preserved, he would not have had to be given the Injeel by the Almighty.

[@safaachougua9552]

The evangel* meaning good news that's what the gospel of Jesus was known as and was arabised like Torah that means law in Hebrew.

[@zaidmoon3597]

good akhi

[@Leon-jp7ch]

Like a lion corresponds to Isaiah 38:13 I wait for morning, as a lion, even so he breaks all my bones; from day to night you make an end of me.

[@GotessDiener]

Lion motif also fits because it's mentioned elsewhere within the Ps. Psalm 22:13 Roaring lions that tear their prey open their mouths wide against me. Psalm 22:21 Rescue me from the mouth of the lions; save me from the horns of the wild oxen.

[@Boxer924]

If you looked up how the Romans crucified people you would know they wouldn’t break bones while nailing them since they would fall off. They only broke bones when they got tired of seeing them being in agony.

[@thenewapproach1858]

Assalamu alaykum Agie, there is one more thing in isaiah 53 it refers to the past tense.. not future so it cant be about Jesus (PBUH)...

[@LONEWOLF-c4d]

Actually this a linguistic tool often used in Bible especially by Isiah. It is called the prophetic past. In this linguistic style a prophecy is said in a past tense to give an idea that this prophecy is as true as past. It also used by Allah in the Quran.. The events of Day of Judgement are mostly described in past tense

[@johnedward1852]

its funny how the christians will take verse that suit them literally without question but when the verse does not suit them they will brush it off as metaphor or as other meaning

[@SerrvantX]

Salaam aleikum Farid I will see you in Nashville this month 😄 inshallah

[@FaridResponds]

Wa alaykum alsalam. Only doing a stream unfortunately and won't be there in person. x.x

[@1541965]

@@FaridResponds السلام عليكم نصيحة لوجه الله لا تنزل لمستواه القذر فأنت اعلى بكثييييييير من أن تتكلم عن مثل هذه الحثالة بارك الله فيكم

[@SerrvantX]

@@FaridResponds aaah well all is good anyways alhamdulillah. I will catch you some other time inshallah!

[@proudmusli_mah]

Assalamualaikum everyone ❤

[@Louwe77]

Waaleikum salam!

[@igsaan8573]

People like DogLogic and Co will deny clear signs and verses and believe whatever the church teaches them. Jesus will make explicit statements regarding the oneness of God and exclude him from Godhood but they will change and say just have faith, it's a Mystery, you need the holy spirit, you need to be born again etc It's not their eyes that are blind but their hearts

[@proudmusli_mah]

Its happening!!!

[@TheonlywayisAllah774]

Most of these would never convince a non Christian especially 11:30. Its obvious its referring to humanity as a whole.

[@letmetalk2240]

The Old and the New Testaments contradict each other in so many ways, that they can’t logically, truthfully, honestly, rationally, reasonably be considered holy scriptures.

[@rodjaibmanaleseg2264]

The book of Isaiah is part of Jewish Bible so we need to ask the learned men or the jews how they understood their Scriptures. The opinion of Christianity doesn't count. Im pretty sure Prophet Isaiah(peace be upon him) doesn't mean the Christian Crucifixion doctrine

[@priomquraishi1164]

2:30 and yet isaiah 53 calls Jesus the suffering servant, no where mentioned the trinity or that Jesus is God, but Jesus is the servant of God

[@1sosukeaizen1]

We all know when Farid starts the hunt, there is no place to run. May Allah help you bro 😎

[@avivastudios2311]

4:54 I think carrying our sorrows means that he will feel things like humans. Or it might mean that he will take them away when we're in heaven.

[@Malaysia_Islam]

Brother, I want to ask, about the story of Is'ra Mi'raj where the prophet Muhammad met the prophets, it was Allah SWT who wanted to order Muslims to pray 50 times, well, then Prophet Moses said he could shorten the time? Because Prophet Musa thought later Muslims would not be able to do it. Well, the question is, Allah SWT is omniscient, why did he tell his servant to pray 50 times? Does he know what his servant is capable of? Pls bro, please answer, I'm still confused about this question

[@tatooinenative860]

Allah wanted it to happen that way. He wanted the interaction with Musa to occur and be narrated to us.

[@abomination1961]

I think it's because Allah wanted to show how merciful he is, as 50 prayers is impossible, yet he still reduced it and gave the reward of 5 prayers to the equilavent of 50 prayers

[@conservativemuslim19]

Its his mercy - If Allah would have said 5 we would be getting 1 reward each for each salah - But Allah said 50 and reduced it to 5 so now we get 10 reward each salah

[@TheChamp91100]

IT WAS JUST TO SHOW HIS MERCY ...

[@Malaysia_Islam]

​@@TheChamp91100 oh, doesn't mean that he doesn't know?

[@saiyanwarrior7250]

Isiah 53 is about the suffering servant, Avery and other Christians just shoot themselves in the foot when they link this chapter to Jesus' crucifixion which confirms that Jesus was just a servant of God not God.

[@Ayan_17-s4o]

❤

[@Threetwo11]

At first I was someone who has no knowledge on both christianity and islam too but after actually seeing the bible and read, and saw brother uthman and also brother mansur, brother hashim, brother adnan, brother rumzi, brother paul and many more made me see more of christianity bs

[@Akhas-z1g]

Doglogic is a Christian because it’s a paying profession. While almost all of the muslim Da’is don’t even monotize their videos let alone beg for personal donations.

[@TawhedDawah]

MashAllah

[@GotessDiener]

If you look into the Hebrew word for pierce in Isa 53, Ps 22, and Zch 12:10 they are all different which shows that there is a deliberate bias here. Zach 12:10 is probably the closest because the unknown author of John thought it was a "spear pierce" if you read John 19:34. Also if you read Psalms 22:24 "he has not despised or scorned the suffering of the afflicted one; he has not hidden his face from him but has LISTENED to his cry for help." This person's prayers were answered which means it could not have been Christian view of Jesus since he died. The Psalm goes on to praise the Lord because of this.

[@DawahSnippets]

Allahumma barik

[@akchdhry_]

There’s a prophecy in the Psalms where David (ﷺ) (allegedly) talks about the Messiah and actually says Jesus’s name (‎ﷺ) in Hebrew. It’s just what they’ve been looking for! The Eid Farid was talking about! The problem for Christians is that it talks about how God will save him from all harm and lift him up with angels… Give Psalms 91 a read! The last word, usually translated as salvation, is Yeshua in the Hebrew, which is Jesus in English. Oh yeah, it’s also a prophecy confirmed by Jesus himself (allegedly) in the New Testament.

[@adnanzia9167]

Farid, great video. Avery is astray as his peers are David Wood. I have read parts of the bible where it is clear Jesus says he is not God. Many real Christians know that Jesus died spreading the message not for our sins.

[@Coolpotayto]

If Isaiah 53 talks about Jesus, then the word "my righteous servant" in Isaiah 53:11 is also refer to Jesus right? So, God is saying Jesus is a servant? Huh? Is Christian okay about saying Jesus is servant? Huh? 🤔 Am i confused about something here? It's the middle of the night and my brain don't function properly.

[@pvsd_cs]

thanks farid :3

[@tachikoma7757]

What Isaiah 53? The guy who has prolonged days and saw his kids? When did his godman marry?

[@theresachilz]

Sorrows is talking about the after life

[@greentooth3097]

@Farid Responds You forgot the part that says "he was crushed". Where in the Christian account was Jesus "crushed"???

[@الحقيقةالمغيبة-خ9خ]

Very nice

[@jmitt91]

Whoa, can someone tell me the verses where the bible/manuscripts say muhammad/ahmed?

[@Spined1234]

Funny how none of these biblical verses even have the word "Jesus" or the word "messiah" yet somehow they're referring to Jesus the Messiah according to the Christians.

[@YEAGERlST]

If you read this; Say "SubhanAllah" 33x Say "Alhamdulillah" 33x Say "Allahu akbar" 34x May Allah reward you.

[@XaeeD]

This requires an in-depth analysis of the Hebrew, and you really need to take into consideration the classical Jewish exegesis of it. The Christian 'reading' quickly falls apart. A big problem in Isaiah 53 (and many other OT books in English), is the fact that Christians translated the Hebrew, and they tend to 'massage' the text, so that it sounds more in line with what their Gospels are saying. Some of this is subtle, some is quite blatantly manipulated. Go read the same text that has been translated by Jewish linguists, and you see that the Jews themselves often use very different translations. One example of this, is that throughout Isa. 53, it keeps mentioning this person's sickness and illness. Verse 3 for example: ’îš maḵ’ōḇōwṯ wîḏūa‘ ḥōlî Meaning: a man of (physical and/or emotional) pain (and suffering), and accustomed to sickness So let's see which Bibles use "sickness" here. NIV - pain NLT - grief ESV - grief BSB - grief KJB - grief NKJV - grief New American Standard Bible - sickness (bonus point for the NASB, well done!) NASB 1995 version and 1977 version before that both used grief LSB - grief AB - grief Christian Standard Bible - sickness (great) Holman Christian Standard Bible - sickness (wonderful) ASV - grief Aramaic Bible in Plain English - suffering (not translated from the Hebrew) Brenton Septuagint Translation - suffering (not translated from the Hebrew) CEV - suffering D-RB - infirmity (point for creativity) ERV - grief GWT - suffering GNT - pain ISV - suffering JPS Tanakh 1917 - disease (accurate) Literal Standard Version - sickness (well, they're trying to be accurate, so there you have it.. bare with me) MSB - grief NAB - pain NET Bible - illness NRSV - infirmity New Heart English Bible - illness WBT - grief World English Bible - disease Young's Literal Translation - sickness Lamsa Bible - grief (not translated from the Hebrew) Geneva Bible of 1587 - infirmities Bishops' Bible of 1568 - infirmities Coverdale Bible of 1535 - infirmities CPDV - infirmity Peshitta HBT - sufferings (not translated from the Hebrew) Smith's Literal Translation - affliction I mean, I think I count nine that either use sickness, illness or disease, out of 39 Bible translations. Maybe ten if we count "affliction". They dropped "infirmity" very quickly. And most Christians probably don't read those Bibles anyway. But that's ~25% that put "sickness" there. The rest just puts pain, suffering or grief. These three don't really communicate the being sick part. They're more conveniently open to interpretation, and how do Christians interpret that? Jesus suffered for their sins on the cross, and that was painful, and it caused him grief. But that excludes being sick. Being sick wouldn't even come to mind, unless it's specifically translated as such, which you see is what most of the 'literal' Bible translations do. So what of it? Well, in the Gospels, Jesus is never actually sick. So that's a problem. Or maybe the word ḥōlî doesn't mean "sick". Well, let's have a look at some other verses that use this word, and how they are translated in those same Bibles. Note that the following examples clearly have nothing to do with prophesying Jesus' suffering. I'll keep this short. Deuteronomy 7:15 kāl ḥōlî - every sickness NIV - The LORD will keep you free from every disease. NLV - And the LORD will protect you from all sickness. ESV - And the LORD will take away from you all sickness. BSB - And the LORD will remove from you all sickness. KJB - And the LORD will take away from thee all sickness. NKJV - And the LORD will take away from you all sickness. You get the point. That exact same list of Bible translations I used before, without exception, every single one of them translates ḥōlî in Deu. 7:15 as "sickness". 2 Kings 8:9 ha’eḥyeh mêḥolî zeh - shall I recover from this sickness NIV - Will I recover from this illness? NLV - Will I recover from this illness? ESV - Shall I recover from this sickness? Same thing. Without exception, ḥolî is translated by all to mean "sickness". And this happens in all cases where the word ḥolî occurs, throughout the OT, and they consistently translate it to mean "sickness". But when they have this text that they think ought to be discribing Jesus Christ, then all of a sudden, the vast majority of them say it means "pain, suffering, grief", because if the Christian common folk read "sickness", they're left scratching their heads: "When was Jesus ever afflicted with disease, suffering from ilness, or accustomed to sickness?" And this is just one example of how they manipulate the meanings of Isaiah 53. There are more of these instances. One major aspect to Isaiah's (and other OT books) allusions to this messianic figure, is that while he's presented as a singular individual at the surface level of those texts, he actually represents the Twelve Israelite Tribes as a whole, and throughout the centuries. This is well-known amongst scholars, but Christians in general haven't a clue. When you read the text like that; i.e. by keeping in mind that whatever's being said about this singular individual also has to be applied to all the Israelites throughout history, then the Christian narrative simply does not explain the text. If this individual perishes, as he does in the four Gospels, then that would effectively translate to the extinction of the Tribes. The Israelites go on existing, because the Messiah is still alive. Had he been executed, then that would've meant the end of the Children of Israel, according to how you have to read and understand Isaiah. There's a lot more that can be said about this chapter, but let's leave it at that. Assalaamu aleikum.

[@leonidasanaxandridas6163]

What convinced Dog Logic was the size of his pay packet 😂. It’s easy to accept someone else bore my burdens by becoming a curse, taking my sins, sacrificing their blood, got pierced for me etc etc etc. it’s no wonder Christians are either flocking to Islam or becoming Atheistic.

[@khaderlander2429]

5 But he was wounded because of our sins, Crushed because of our iniquities. He bore the chastisement that made us whole, And by his bruises we were healed. It doesn't say pierced.

[@FaisalAhmad-dm3lq]

۞ "Whoever seeks a way other than Islam, it will never be accepted from them, and in the Hereafter they will be among the losers." ۞ (Quran 3:85)

[@thebayyinahstudent]

There's just 1 dislike on this video, prolly by godlogic

[@HisMajestyKingPantoniusDSecond]

The Christian concept of God is so weird. The “Father” is a sadist who wants to kill his own “Son” so that he can forgive other people’s sins. The “Son” is a masochist who wants to hurt himself because he wants to forgive the sins of all who believes in him. The “Holy Ghost” is another weird person, he likes to possess other people and write books / gospels that contradicts each other.

[@isaactarawally6219]

Simply because you can’t verify something doesn’t make it false . Eg. can you verify you have a spirit or a soul? But you know you have one Can you prove square circles exist or not? But you know it is not possible Can you prove parallel lines never meet? But you believe it is true

[@ImaadudeenIshaqPersonal]

سبحان الله

[@SkyStar-p1b]

Godlogic has apologized from Christianity several times during the debates with Muslims i.e many times Avery (Godlogic) has been refuted and cornered then Avery would make things up from his own mind which are considered Apostasy in Christianity.

[@D_Muslim_Z]

you should always end your responses to him with the part he claimed to be ""الشَيْك"" that was hilarious

[@raselkhan-po9hm]

Why Usmani mushaf did not covered others kerat????which rosom are different frome usmani mushaf

[@arabianknight0000]

Stop embarrassing yourself

[@raselkhan-po9hm]

@@arabianknight0000 what do you mean??

[@meyadzaman7406]

Like Dr Zakir night who says he read the Bible respect the Bible but a Muslim Indian who believe Allah

[@trappedinexistence]

funny how jesus (pbuh) never uses these verses in the same way😁it's almost as if he knows they aren't talking about him🤔hmm...

[@FaisalAl-amin]

If that's the case then why did he not explain Psalm 91

[@SaintMarcion]

W farid

[@Ahlehadith2024]

No logic Avery got served.

[@RobertRodriguez-dq2xv]

God is described as merciful, but the Bible says He was pierced for our transgressions. Is it truly merciful to wound someone who has done nothing to be wounded?

[@badvibes2568]

Isaiah 53 is about isreal. 41:8 But thou, Israel, art my servant, Jacob whom I have chosen, the seed of Abraham my friend. Most of there “prophecies” are misquotations, misattributions and twisting of the Old Testament.

[@idrea43]

Read Jeremiah 11:19 Jeremiah descrobes himself as "Like a lamb to the slaughter" His enemies say "Let us cut him off from the world of the living" Isaiah 53 7-8 "Led like a lamb to the slaughter" "Cut off from the land of the living" This is an intertextual point of contact that demonstrates that the author of Isaiah was aware of jeremiah and sculpted his narrative around HIM, not jesus. Jesus is retrospectively injected into the verse with christian interpretations. Not only that, but gospel authors shaped their [largely] fictitious accounts of jesus on the OT in order to make the claim that he fulfilled prophest. It is a methodology that they adopted from their direct/indirect influence; paul of tarsus who tries to prove his "dying rising saviour mangod atoning sacrifice" with the OT. Another example of a retrospective embellishment to make jesus match the OT is the author of john's gospel, it's the only one (and last produced gospel) to mention jesus as pierced in his hands [and ran through with spear] in order to more closely align with the Isaiah suffering servant motif (isaiah 53 that i mentioned already) of being pierced for transgressions In conclusion; isaiah is not about jesus, it's about jeremiah but christians appropriated it due to desperation to make jesus have pre-eminence

[@lapis_lazuli578]

yeah his proofs aren't convincing to anyone who's not already a Christian

[@jasonknoll7672]

Because he has common sense

[@letmetalk2240]

@2:16 How can the Christian interpretation be true when it contradicts Judaism. Isaiah is taken from Judaism scriptures. When you used the religion scriptures, have the courtesy of not interpreting it the way you fancy.

[@ZeroCelsius777]

At 1:57...As Salaamu Alaikum! Avery knows me...I have spoken to him many times on CH. I explained to AVERY more than once that what he is reading (Isaiah Ch. 53)...Isaiah is talking about the SERVANT...ISRAEL...not just one person The Christians deliberately MISTRANSLATE the HEBREW to make it fit their narrative It isn't relevant if we as Muslims accept what is written in that book...I only need to point out the HEBREW words that he is MISTRANSLATING into English. Example: I showed Avery in the Hebrew Lexicon for Isaiah 53:8 they put in English...for the transgression of my people 👉WAS HE STRICKEN.👈 In HEBREW it TRULY reads...“For the transgression of my people they (למו) (LAMO) were stricken.” The word they (למו) (LAMO) is 3rd person plural and clearly indicates that this verse does not refer to a single individual...whom the Christians pretend is Jesus (PBUH).

[@Thebattleofreligions]

What a coincidence! He was pierced( John 19:31-37)(Zechariah 12:10) They cast lots for His garments( psalms 22:18)( John 19:23-24) Did all these happen?Yes ,read it up!

[@facetofloor]

The person doesn't even have to get into the sketchy history of Christianity and the Bible to know that Christianity is false. It is enough to know that the claim that an infant became the Beginningless Creator of the universe is patently absurd.

[@PathtoParadise-bk9yz]

even I was like "bruh" 11:19

[@omed4873]

If Jesus carried all our sins means Hes going to hell fire according logic...if not what's the purpose hell and paradise

[@KallCall]

actually they believe that he went to hades (hellfire)😂

[@keitumetsemodipa3012]

He did go to hades but not because he "carried our sins" our sins didn't get put on him in the penal sense, substitutionary atonement is a heresy Hell is for the devil and his angels, it is a "created state" where a person choses to be of their own volition Jesus went there to proclaim his victory to Satan by setting the captives free, to fulfill the divine plan of setting humanity free from the the forces of evil

[@keitumetsemodipa3012]

​@@KallCall Hades and hellfire is not the same thing Hell is yet to be Hades is just the place souls go to after their bodily earthly life

[@KallCall]

@@keitumetsemodipa3012 I thought that hades was hell in Christianity thx for the correction but I often hear this argument that he perched in hades to the dead is that true?

[@keitumetsemodipa3012]

​@@KallCall They are used interchangeably That's the "Harrowing of Hades" you may know the paintings of it , it's that Jesus went to Hades to proclaim the gospel to people who didn't hear about Christ and people before Christ, this answers the question of what happened to people before Christ, the answer is nothing they were just waiting in Hades till Jesus came and proclaimed the gospel, those who wish to go through theosis went with Christ to the Father and those who want nothing to do with God are in a "spiritual prison" set up by themselves awaiting Hell which which is the self inflicted suffering of rejecting the only source of love and goodness, it's like asking to help out a homeless person and they say no, then they blame others for being homeless, choosing to blame society for even letting people be homeless instead of aiming to improve their lives

[@YungShoe]

‘I believe in christianity because Islam….’😂😂😂😂😂

[@4everastudent]

Should have got ijaz to do it