For Honor: Gladiator Realism Analysis pt.1

[@GoGoDani]

The few classes of gladiators that we talk about in this video aren't even the end of it. These classes are the only ones that relate to this hero's weapons... wait until we start the discussion on armor. _I feel a headache forming..._ Also, if you're interested in Mount & Blade: Bannerlord and/or you want to see a video of my thoughts on it, go ahead and check out this video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3bTh4GMjZaBfas

[@seany-s2987]

I love your channel and this realism series but I have a minor criticism. When you debate realism I think it would be great if you focus more on the viability of their arms and armour with historical information and examples to reach a conclusion, rather than superlatively whether or not it was ever done historically. I think the Black Prior analysis did what I'm suggesting really well. Don't misunderstand and think I don't love your channel, keep up the great work!

[@GoGoDani]

@@seany-s2987 I take no offense to it, I am always willing to improve the video for others. One of the problems that can vary from video to video is what the content consists of historically. So in this case we are talking gladiators that could be from 200-600AD with multiple different classes and types of (debatably trustworthy) accounts. Meanwhile the likes of Black Prior has a range of much more accountable and formally written sources of history that we have much more to learn from than that of the Roman Empire. It's just merely due the amount of time gap and the amount of history lost in between the thousand or so years. That being said, if you are looking for my opinion on the viability of the trident and buckler combination, you're going to have to wait until I release the (most likely part 3) animations/move set video where I will break down what Gladiator does and what I would do differently, and I'll even discuss if a buckler and trident is even a reasonable pair of weapons to use together. The reason I didn't want to discuss any of that in this episode, is due to the fact that it would open up a can of worms so to speak, and would make me end up needing to reference the animations. Next thing you know, this isn't a multipart series, it's just an hour and a half lecture. I know some people like long videos, but according to my statistics most people don't. I hope you understand and that it was a reasonable enough explanation.

[@jasonalmonte1239]

I'm gonna be real with you. You deserve way more subs than you have. Like thousands more. At least 500k

[@triborg5013]

I really love this channel and am excited for part two. Have a good day.

[@narrowstone5363]

@@GoGoDani I agree with Sean and all honesty I think you'd have to do that for the Highlander video. Sword terminology is very grey and it becomes borderline impossible to identify a weapon like Highlander since they're so rare. Either way, love the stuff you put out

[@sethglotfelty8958]

When your comrade is a complete maniac that doesn't realise he's in war but instead playing a sport

[@michagruzewski5592]

Warden: U just violated every single statement of Geneva convention and that's just in a single duel! Gladiator: "Its just a game why you have to be mad." Warden: "Game? We are on a frontline goddamnit!" Gladiator: "U mean... its a war...? Well... that would explain all that chaninmail." Warden: "You just got it NOW?! Are you just dumb or bloody special?" Gladiator: "Well... all that neaked ass Wikings and all them weebs got me thinking..." Warden: *faceplams*

[@AmonRa_Stringer]

@@michagruzewski5592 Shaolin: so when are those two gonna stop arguing about something that hasn’t nothing to with are war? Shugoki: idk but ima about throw a rock at them !

[@chiffoncakeandtea]

Actual pyscho

[@Just_Adrian_]

How realistic is gladiators toe fetish

[@ilaymalik1837]

Enough.

[@matchedplayer979]

yes

[@pgh3316]

Very

[@michagruzewski5592]

Centurion: "this is not Incredibilis"

[@brainnowrk]

As a (newly) rep 10 Gladiator: Yeah.

[@sanguisuga6825]

There are actually a few duel arenas where there's actually a crowd cheering. Gladiator is also mostly a duel hero, so that's a pretty cool coincidence.

[@Nutella.]

Some exes and emotes also support the whole crazed performer feel - like the recognition emote where he hears a crowd, or the fun and roses exe. Glad might just be as crazy as Shaman.

[@Major_Ursa]

Except crazy in an attention seeking way and not the raised by wolves way Shaman is

[@russian_knight]

Shaman knows what she's doing though, she knows she's on a battlefield and in a war, where the gladiator doesnt, so glad is definitely more insane

[@oniemployee3437]

I really like Gladiator. His entire character is something I love and it's the reason why I love Centurion aswell! He's a man so showboaty, so cocky and infuriating to fight against (in lore, I imagine) that just his character is enough to make his foes blinded by rage and prone to making mistakes. Gladiator loves his job, and by extension, his life. And who wouldn't?!

[@mutonfuton]

Yeah, I really like how confident gladiator is, going against people in the strongest of armor with very little of it themselves. I feel that their weapons are also pretty over the top to show that fact too

[@Ruffneck2738]

When you revive him sometimes he will say “don’t touch me” or “he got lucky”

[@holidaysamekichi5673]

In lore and in the game he’s most people’s most infuriating character to face

[@mackenziemcdaniel-paul8163]

I think the reason it's not a net is because the change in animation, as nets usually have weird cloth physics associated with them.

[@GoGoDani]

Maybe... but wouldn't rope have that as well? Both the Bolas and the Net are flexible to some extent.

[@mackenziemcdaniel-paul8163]

@@GoGoDani Surely it would be easier to do the bolas than the whole net, that's animating one strand of rope over 20-30 strands. And the only way I can see them doing a net animation is by them getting wrapped up similarly to how the bolas would. As if you were to animate the cloth dropping on them from above you would have to go through the trouble of running the cloth simulation.

[@DavidCH5]

@@GoGoDani I believe Ubisoft actually delve into the net idea at first with Glad's design, even though it was a feat, as what would eventually become the boleadoras, but they encountered various problems with the throwing of the net animation as well as the target getting out of it (Given that a net's purpose is kind of not letting you out of it), and therefore the standard for getting out of a net would be important game mechanics-wise, given that getting out of a net would take a while. And since you couldn't have such an unfair advantage (at least from my point of view), they went for the bolas for easier animation as well as gameplay balance, since with the bolas, apart from whatever physical damage you sustain from getting hit with them, it would take less time to break free out of them compared to whatever time you'd take with a net. The devs actually considering the net I believe was said in one of the Warriors Den's, though there have been so many it would be really hard to pinpoint the exact one at the exact time stamp. I hope I have made as much sense of this as it was in my mind, as I hope you understand what I wrote here. Btw, love the vids :).

[@kielbasamage]

B-but nobody can escape a tiny net! It's so tiny, they can't work their fingers through the holes!

[@thevoicej2511]

That, and you can throw a Bola a lot farther than you can a net.

[@blangi3239]

I like that there are the knight who fight with a reason these fights and there they have this halfnaked glad in they ranks who's running, killing and making a show of it for the crowd inside of his head, but his doing his part so you dont mind. And awesome video.

[@theberserkerarmor6511]

He’s like the Pyro from tf2

[@burgbass]

It feels like every faction in the game now has the “We really don’t want this guy but we’re desperate and he does the job well enough” hero. Conq, Shaman, Aramusha/Shinobi, and the Wu Lin are relatively all good teammates but I’d say Shaolin is probably the outlier at least.

[@mutonfuton]

I was about to ask “Why Conq” and then I remembered that they are technically prisoners and used as conscripts

[@ilaymalik1837]

Glad is like Pyro from TF2, they both see things differently than their teammates/ enemies, the pyro thinks its all rainbows and sunshine, while burning people.. And Glad thinks he is just doing his daily job to entertain others.. atleast they have good intentions (?).

[@halosnova1604]

Why did they remove the polls? I see polls all the time, and Its really convenient... Eh whatever youtube is bored because of corona theyre doing whatever. Keep up the videos, excited to see the rest of the gladiator parts!

[@theorochi534]

I cannot wait until the animation video, even though this just came out. There’s one particular animation i’m a fan of for him, where he skewers his opponent and if you let finish while the opponent is standing upright, he pulls it out of them and extends his arms to the side, just showboating. Also love the theory of them being a crazed performer that were hired by the Knights, and now the battlefield is their arena to show off their skills.

[@brianmiddleton4697]

It’s a nice animation, the person he skewers has to be up against a wall.

[@KAMPCAPOW]

The big M He also gets two versions of the animation. One where he just T-poses while walking back. The other where he holds his hands up to the crowd and laughs. They depend on the direction the skewer is thrown.

[@damummy3723]

I like the fact that with Gladiator I can finally throw effectiveness partially into the trash because technically he's just supposed to look cool and entertain people. I mean what kind of sane person concerned with their life would be brave enough to get close to big sword wielding warriors and stab them in the foot IN EVERY SECOND EXECUTION TOO?

[@Ozwaffen]

I like the idea that there's a delusional gladiator in the battlefield thinking that the war is a one giant show

[@RaixsOreh]

Personally, I think thats just how he hypes himself up. If you're gonna fight, why not fight for the greatest reason, for glory. So when he fights he likes to imagine theres a crowd watching him, pushing him to win the "arena match"

[@artifex2.080]

Imagine going into a fight with someone, you see them get a sword and shield. And then you're handed a fishing Kit.

[@thelocdesiringentryintoyou3686]

*uses buckler to beat fish to death*

[@sargeantbug5681]

I remember seeing somewhere that the developers intended to include a net as a feat but couldn't bc of limitations in the engine

[@NathanSyrus]

Sarge Ant Bug I would believe this. Animating a net, especially trapping and tangling up opponents, would be very difficult.

[@bluven508blaze3]

The council who have decided that you should make this video, is pleased with your astonishing results jokes aside, can't wait to see the next part

[@usrhelios]

4 in the morning and I'm one of the early people let's goooo. Also love your videos and I'm maining glad rn

[@losgargabonzi97]

here in Italy it's 10:42 now, go to sleep

[@halosnova1604]

5 for me

[@halosnova1604]

@@KAMPCAPOW uhhh, you good?

[@KAMPCAPOW]

Rookie 7 lol I replied to the wrong comment.

[@halosnova1604]

@@KAMPCAPOW oof lmao

[@maxesandaces9248]

At a time like this, I wish to have a shield to bang on to cheer the glory of this upload.

[@benmcmillin3651]

“Book chapter and verse “ Me a law bringer main : oh yeah it’s all coming together “

[@ItsMinticle]

sameeeeee

[@bearencounter3184]

A net probably would have been too hard to animate. Thanks for making these man, you deserve more subs

[@thevoicej2511]

Highlander and the “Claymore” please, please talk about all the basket hilted broads... Claymores, yes, the claymores.

[@NarwhalKing5610]

I remember, during the initial wave of leaks for gladiator, he was supposed to have a net and trident as his weapons, not the buckler. And, roar of the crowd was a feat that basically isolated him and one opponent in some sort of ring so they couldn’t run from each other and would give a full heal to the winner.

[@fivethedevil732]

HELL YES! I am pumped to see more of your content Dani! I don't mind looking for the poles, seeing as I normally found them that way. I was hoping to see Highlander, but Im still happy to watch your analysis. That small child made me laugh pretty damn good, I always dig your humor man.

[@uncleyokai]

It’s a pain waiting for part 2 I love everything about Gladiators bravado

[@TheHornSection]

Hell yeah ive been waiting for this

[@GreenMoriyama]

Hello Dani. I'm one of the people who regularly edits the wiki. Wanted to thank you for pointing out the bit about the Hoplomachus not being exactly correct (according to the page's history, it was an unchecked trivia ever since the page was first made). I've made changes on the wiki since your explanation made more sense of the Gladiator's weapon choices, and look forward to the next videos in case there is more that could be said in trivia for the Gladiator. I also appreciate the time you take for these videos, and dearly enjoy them.

[@fetusdelitus7116]

Watching your videos makes me want to play for honor, I love your videos

[@thalassaofthesea7621]

Ah yes, not only my favorite but who got me into the game. LET THE ROAR OF THE CROWD BEGIN! (And learning even more of gladiators! :D)

[@luisgrave1352]

Hey Dani great video as always! i don't really mind the transition to community polls, as sadly that's the way KZbin wants to play now. a lot of content creators have made the switch to positive results so dont sweat it too much, we will still participate!

[@KarmaticLunacy]

This channel deserves more attention

[@kadedodge4161]

These videos deserve alot more attention. Keep up the good work I really enjoy these👍🏼

[@ZorgonKiloEchoLima]

Man, I found out your channel recently and have been watching your videos quite a bit. I'm a HEMA practitioner myself (Fiore and Marozzo, with a lot of interest in Liechtenauer). My main weapons are the Longsword and soon to be Montante but I've had plenty of Bolognese Sidesword and buckler as well. There are many things from a HEMA perspective that I agree with you on these videos, and others I would genuinely like to ask further as the way you say them sometimes sound completely wrong to me lol, especially regarding stances and some interpretations of manuals and their compositions. I'm glad you're doing your best to inform people on realistic sword fighting as this seems to be a growing trend. I've been doing the same in Brazil. We need more people like you :)

[@isaiahsellers5369]

I feel like the whole case with the poles itll be fine and anyone who actually wants to vote will do so however you make it possible

[@makikatomori5580]

Glad is my favorite hero and hope you talk about glades executions next video

[@TheNotoriousPaydayGang]

I'm a Cent main and I love all of your video.. INCREDIBILIS

[@Q_7169]

As a gladiator main, I have been awaiting this

[@russianspy.1170]

I love this channel because Iike the way you show and correct ubisoft

[@ovicam8031]

If glad is kinda crazy then in that execution when he throws his trident and the multitude throws roses at him, is just happening in is mind?

[@hejhejaske]

Yeah probably

[@Slashernate]

I always liked gladiators I just found them very interesting and cool

[@mateuszaugustyn8503]

Gladiator is basically For Honor's equivalent of Pyro from Team Fortress 2 - we never see his face, he just wants people to die from his hand, and lives in his own small world where everything is just for show, and also he shouts a lot

[@andrewjones5544]

I know he's doing gladiator now, but I'd love to see an Aramusha realism analysis. Or even just a reaction to Aramusha's Stilt Walker signature.

[@michagruzewski5592]

Atamusha is as realistic as kamikaze coming back from thrme battle. (Wears nearly only cloth + dual wields swords. These two combined are basicly a suicide.)

[@reyne6515]

It's not hard to believe Glad has a small amount of armor is because he wants to bleed to please the crowd.

[@nakaithewanderer8071]

This ia absolutely epic

[@mongo8832]

I've been waiting for this video and it doesn't disappoint!

[@BoneJangle]

Yessssss I’m so glad other people watch mettatron

[@choosegoose_]

Do you know enough information about Chinese weapons and armor to talk about wu lin faction? Because if you can that would be awsome. Video about zhanhu's stances was so cool and fun to watch. I hope you could do that to other wu lin heroes and also talk about weapons and armor. Great video btw. Waiting for your impressions on toe stab.

[@alphamale8274]

Teacher: what's so funny Me: nothing My mind: *NET MAN*

[@lordorinko]

For the Bola argument. I believe that they were designing the feat with net in mind. But animating and modeling of a net being thrown is not the easiest, i mean even the bola dissapears after the throw. And since they probably wanted to add the squiggling enemy under the net it would be even harder to render it. So ubi went with bola that basically does the same thing a net would in the game.

[@jello5th170]

Finally some high quality video

[@swirlyskyshock1155]

I’ve been waiting...

[@DTS214]

I like the theory that Glad is actually a mad lad thinking he’s still in an arena or at least pretending to be 🤣

[@RaixsOreh]

Im more inclines to think hes pretending theres a crowd. Just like how a singer would rehearse imagining an audience in the empty theater, glad imagines an adoring crowd cheering him on to punch the lights out of his enemy.

[@iamfourmana]

This guy is like Joseph Anderson's twin brother that dissects For Honor characters.

[@wolvenedvard3049]

I’d love to see a collab between you and Metatron

[@menacecide9471]

Fantastic video! I hope you will get to do Aramusha too someday.

[@sky10456]

When you get to the shafts(giggity) and the types of counter balance on them and weapon potential of them makes me think of my most fave under appreciated weapon, the Geodendag, its pronounced differently then it looks for some reason, but its a spear club, a poor mans way to beat armored opponents, I love it too much for the combination. Would also advise looking at the battle of golden spurs where Flanders militia men were mostly armed with them too.

[@legion4755]

Awesome job dude! Do you plan to cover the other factions after the knights? Would love to see what you have to say about Highlander!

[@ChadHansen69]

just something to think about, but would glads trident work kind of like the barbed african spears? i mean you brought up the point of the head getting stuck in the opponent but when fighting other unarmored gladiators wouldnt the barbs be even more effective than a regular spear?

[@graysonspecks9776]

Don’t fault my boi glad for just tryna relive the glory days.

[@Nothing-to-do]

I am a student in Korea... 8:53 Dangpa is the name of a weapon used by a soldier in 1620. And it is 159.6cm long. From the geographical location and the fact that Rome was until 1453, Korea and Rome have never met.

[@Tris70]

Ooo woke up to see this in my notifications, exciting.

[@SwitchFeathers]

So this is just a fan theory of mine and probably not even a very hard to put together one but it's about why the Gladiator uses a buckler despite those being distinctly medieval/renaissance era shields vs the more classical era roman shields, and it's because the Gladiator _isn't_ an ancient warrior, he's a modern one. Nailing down For Honor's exact time period is pretty hard to do since we have 16th century tournament plate being worn alongside 11th century Crusader gear, but the general consensus seems to be it takes place is a "more-or-less 15th century" setting. The Gladiator is interesting, though, because he comes from the same "old empire" as the Centurion; not the exact same place as the rest of the Knights faction, but rather their "predescesors". My idea about it is that it's as if the Roman Empire never actually fell, but rather just was reduced to a single nation-state. So we have all the traditions, aesthetics and culture of ancient Rome, but in a more modern setting: Gladiatorial games are still around, obviously, but it'd make sense for the combatants equipment to change with the times. Hence why we have a gladiator wearing the very classical style helmet and armour weilding the impractical (but really cool and interesting) trident alongside a modern buckler. It's not really much of a far-fetched theory but I often see people trying to compare Centurion and Gladiator to their ancient counterparts from history despite the fact that they exist in a much later setting and, while keeping their Roman aesthetics, have updated their kit and fighting style in line with modern technological advancements.

[@Arthur-zb9eh]

I’d be interested to see all the details behind the finishers

[@MyLungsStillBurn]

Holy toes I just realised our boi is rep 131... Impressive!

[@yagzy6585]

my man very good content, love ya

[@danielparis5663]

I dont know exactly if it is intentional or not, but there is a trident and buckler named Flamma inspired by the real life counterpart Gladiator. Nice little historical reference Ubi threw in there, which I wish was with an armor set to it as well.

[@cheersbro7347]

The hooks on the trident were actually useful in gladiator combat. They were used for catching the oponent's shield, open their defense and stab to the chest or legs, depending on wich side of the shield was chaught. Sorry if it's somehow strange, I don't speak fluent english. And I'm not an expert on the topic, I just noticed it when I was watching this kind of martial art.

[@ChadHansen69]

its here boys... its finally here

[@dimitrije6588]

Love your vids keep up the work.

[@GoGoDani]

Appreciate it!

[@Jsaldivardesigns]

Love your Vids man! Makes me want to pick up glad!

[@knightcyclops7330]

Am I the only one who wants a realism analysis of the minions of each faction?

[@kevinnorwood8782]

The Dangpa isn't the only Asian version of a Trident that was used on the battlefield. There's also the Jumonji-Yari from Japan (sorry if I've misspelled that).

[@manganzon.]

don’t mind me, just watching without being subbed. (don’t worry, i subbed.)

[@AcitoriaVakarianIdunno]

Using the Juno staff is just like... An armoured opponent arrives and you turn the trident around and just start kind of viciously bonking the dude to death with a big stick.

[@laserlights9684]

I feel like a realistic gladiator would be less annoying to fight and be so much fun to play

[@TwentythreePER]

Also, a lot of bucklers were wooden with metal on the front. There are even some surviving examples of such though most modern bucklers are solid metal.

[@trmp3tply3r3]

Honestly, I know it's a bit out of place, but when I first saw For Honor, I heard you would be able to join any faction, and also that you can be any hero in any faction. I thought it would be more of a mercenary type system, which is where the currency and contacts came in. I'm a little sad it didn't go this way.

[@kevinnorwood8782]

I'm kinda surprised Gladiator won the poll result on Black Prior Part 3. When I cast my vote, Peacekeeper was leading the poll results?

[@dilophosaurussk4333]

So... The Gladiator is just the 20xgreat grandpa of the TF2 Pyro?

[@iagam3r]

if it were the case of "the crowd" being all in his head then it'd make the second crazy person we have in for honor, being shaman and gladiator. Then again if we throw logical out the window or give way to chance he could recall a battle where the crowd was suddenly turned in his favor and he just remembers that adrenaline and uses that for a brief period of time.

[@Felipebrbrbrbr]

Third, u forgot Hitokiri

[@iagam3r]

hitokiri is more fanatical like jorm.

[@Felipebrbrbrbr]

IA Gamer Bro, if you stay still with Hito and listen close you will hear she whispering to HERSELF. If this ain’t crazy I don’t what is.

[@iagam3r]

how else are you supposed to get expert advice? she could've been in a death cult, i don't check goobisoft lore as they haven't updated in a hot minute but you don't necessarily have to be crazy to be part of them, just lacking morales.

[@casbah2075]

Imo I always saw the gladiator and centurion as medieval soldier who take heavy inspiration from classical roman. Like some medieval knights found a Roman city buried under some ash and the weapons and armor they had and thought to themselves, "cool, imma do this now"

[@sakebleach]

your thoughts on roar of the crowd sound like the pyro from tf2

[@aiellamori]

BWAHH, I've been waiting for this one

[@spartimarti9208]

i use the brash/wicked head for glad because i think its the most useful towards his move set, since he/she both stabs and slashes with it. what do you think?

[@jamesdouty5096]

Gladiators were modern day athletes, they had agents, they did endorsement deals etc. So the flashiness I can totally be okay with especially on a majority of the tridents given the misunderstood history of gladiators

[@oogabooga4023]

Is gladiator's muscle mass realistic and was there female gladiators?

[@LeaderoftheFates]

Let's not forget there has been a thousand years in the game so warriors equipment could change drastically

[@armintor2826]

I wish they went with a scissores gladiator, probably wouldve been more focused around parry punishes and counter attacking

[@pinguin4898]

when you wanna go bard but the team needs a barbarian

[@melvinlloyd7278]

I was hoping highlander would get a video is that still happening?

[@fockingweeb2531]

and to add to that theory about him being a maniac He has a execution where roses fall from the sky and he bows down to the camera

[@Brzzzyexe]

we've been waiting.

[@gemtownMANCHURIA]

every night.

[@gloomygloomstalker3878]

So I can't share a link to confirm this but from what i heard ubisoft originally wanted the gladiator to use the net with the trident but found it to be too cumbersome to animate so they just used the buckler and bolas instead. From what I hear.

[@cinnamonflamingo]

Tbh ubisoft prolly used the boleadoras instead of a net because it was more simple and didnt have as many textures

[@omararredondo4557]

Gladiator is like the Pyro he has a mask which kinda looks like he is wearing goggles and his voice is muffled. He probably has the same view of the things around him like the Pyro

[@wolvenedvard3049]

Juno shaft is my favourite

[@spacebar8426]

Could've sworn i heard from somewhere that gladiators back then didn't actually kill each other due to expenses of having one killed or even injured, and that the arenas were like a sport and gladiators were owned by wealthy people. Can anyone let me know if I heard this right or is it bogus 🤔 lol

[@GoGoDani]

That's actually technically right! ...kinda. It's all about context. If we are talking late Republic Rome/ Early Empire Rome where a large majority were either slave or criminals? No, they most definitely would kill each other. Sometimes, it wouldn't even be gladiator vs gladiator. They would send in a lion or a bear and basically perform an execution by beasts, for lack of a better description. But as the Roman Empire progressed and the gladiatorial arena became a much more popular form of entertainment, some people willingly became gladiators. Along with that, some people ended up having favorite gladiators. So you would have gladiatorial bouts that wouldn't always end in death. Obviously there are always exceptions, but I think it's safe to say that it was far less visceral than the much more earlier forms of gladiator entertainment.

[@LautrecOfCarim]

Lindybeige made a very interesting video on the topic a while back where he discusses volunteers becoming gladiators and how there may have been quite a bit of "cheating" going on in the arena to improve the show while actually avoiding casualties. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iX6uZ2OFa55oqJY

[@nezarecdiscipleofthewitnes3823]

Could you imagine if glad was running around with a net in game lmao

[@whickzy1238]

Nice video dude!

[@jskorb0194]

Legit thought this video existed and searched it like 6 hours ago

[@aaaaaaahaaaaaaahah6530]

Warden: Oh look at pk ass Raider: nah Valkery boobs are better Kensei: R u kidding look at nobushi Gladiator: T O E S

[@southernnights8975]

Bruh