Going Deeper with Kaylor Martin | The Viall Files w/ Nick Viall

Welcome back to The Viall Files: Going Deeper, with Love Island USA’s Kaylor Martin
Today we have a bonus episode, and boy is it filled with JUICY tea. And hot mics?! How was Kaylor’s experience on Love Island? How has her experience been in the public eye? And, where is she now with Aaron?
“I have my doubts about Aaron.”
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Timestamps:
00:00 - Intro
03:41 - Applying
6:47 - On The Show
12:06 - Being Yourself
16:49 - Casa
19:17 - Your Fans
22:59 - Move That Way
24:30 - Definitions Of Love
29:23 - Doubts
31:57 - Mom
35:53 - Least Favorite Part
40:48 - Rob
51:13 - Dangerously In Love
57:51 - Hot Mic
01:12:14 - Texting Office Hours
01:27:13 - Next Steps
01:34:50 - Last Advice
01:36:50 - Outro

[@jordanmontague6]

So as a licensed marriage and family therapist I was interested when Kaylor said something along the lines of she didn't think Aaron's intention was to hurt her so she isn't upset that he didn't apologize. It made me think of an example I give to my clients a lot: If you accidentally bumped into someone and knocked them over would you say, "oh my gosh I'm so sorry", or, "well I didn't mean to do it so I don't owe you anything?" It's probably the first option. Most people are good people. Most people don't intend to hurt us. An apology is an acknowledgment that we made a mistake and feel bad for hurting that person. Intention is irrelevant when it comes to apologies. If we hurt someone or did something wrong, just own up to it, and you'll be surprised how much better it makes your relationships. Don't value your pride more than you value your partner. It's never worth it in the end! Just something to think about. Good interview! And Kaylor, you did a really good job articulating yourself. Try to ignore the hate. ❤

[@Lilyccc]

What do you think about a person who is extremely self-aware, extremely apologetic, and acknowledges and says everything you are thinking? All the time?

[@Bri-jy5wu]

needed this too lol

[@jenny_447]

man, i could read your replies to so many relationships issues. this was amazing and insightful to read!!

[@jordanmontague6]

@jenny_447 Aw thank you!

[@jordanmontague6]

@Lilyccc says everything I'm thinking all the time? Hmm I'd say they were psychic 🔮 😂

[@brittdaycake]

everyone really needs to give Kaylor SO much more grace. she is 22 years old. let her live, make her own choices, and if you’re someone who goes on the internet to hate on someone you are a WEIRDO.

[@justagirlinaworldlivin]

thank you!!! she is a young girl with so much to learn people are so rude

[@katelyn5625]

this!!!!

[@JennaCalifornia]

Yeah the hate online is waaaaaay over the top. If you want to hate anyone, it should be Aaron. He was the “bad guy” in the scenario.

[@paolap6802]

Exactly, why do people feel the need to be soo pretentious and feel like they know better. I am only 2 years older than her but still. Let her live

[@rialequay1787]

Exactly. I know at 22 I was dumb over a guy but it wasn’t on national tv

[@sdgna]

I feel like Kaylor KNOWS Aaron is not for her.... Sweet girl. She deserves so much better.

[@ChloRuiz0720]

That’s fine but she is young and as many do we need to learn the hard way

[@Jamiliciious]

Have you seen Aaron’s video of her and her friend talking shit about Leah…

[@marktuanentertainment1180]

facts. the way she talks abt marriage, like she knows she doesnt see herself marrying aaron. as she should tho. she deserves better

[@oliviawellbrink2497]

@@Jamiliciiousshe addressed it in this video, her and Leah talked and are good. Aaron is a dick tho for not saying sorry

[@monikleite9531]

Doesn’t neater be self aware and be the one that making all the efforts while he’s acting he did nothing wrong. She says all this as she said in the villa and then she goes and make a stories with him laughing and saying that’s better being hated than forgotten. If she doesn’t leave now it will be worse.

[@juned1719]

Aaron is 27 years old. He’s old enough to know right from wrong. There is no excuse for how he treated Kaylor after casa. She needs to cut ties with him.

[@misspreciousalloy1]

HE WAS ON LOVE ISLAND! THEY WERENT CLOSED OFF! Geezus

[@freddietho9132]

@@misspreciousalloy1true. Also, if your Gona try to put your hands down another chicks pants, say it with your chest.

[@mikaylaali6159]

@@misspreciousalloy1 They were closed off at the time of him doing that.

[@ToBeBrighterDays]

@@misspreciousalloy1You obviously haven't seen Love Island if you think being on the show = always ok to hookup with multiple people.

[@kekemarie-rn8cc]

Wow he’s 27 and still acts like that that is scary

[@evlynrox]

This was the best person to interview her- so genuine and sweet and responsible with her. She’s going to have to learn this lesson herself- just like the rest of us ladies. Build her up when it goes downs

[@ChloRuiz0720]

Exactly everyone acts so self righteous & as if they’ve never had a person like this. She’s young it’s new & we all have to learn our own lessons

[@christinehillier9493]

I agree, the whole crew handled it’s so so well. So cautious, reassuring her about all the positive ways to think of peoples perspectives and that she knows her worth. One of my favorite interviews!

[@lillocs7216]

aaron likes boys 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@rziadeh]

He was acting like a teenage boy with a huge crush. It was odd to watch them kiss her ass so much

[@kitaboo2245]

Y’all love coddling white women, especially when they are blonde. If only yall showed this kind of grace for black women.

[@ElizabethLilac23]

This felt like a therapy session rather than an interview 😂 God bless Nick for trying to help open her eyes. Kaylor is young and has a lot of growing and learning to do but she’s on the right track

[@canadianravenbrook]

🙏

[@sugaring3921]

I think she is too. Seems like she has the right attitude going forward which is a relief.

[@maryannjustus791]

Was he not so sweet & gently tried to guide her into rethinking her relationship with Aaron? Loved it!

[@jordanmccorvey1368]

I think Aaron won’t discuss it before watching it so he doesn’t say something that wasn’t aired. He doesn’t wanna snitch on himself before seeing what was shown. She deserves better

[@lane5802]

Exactlyyyyy

[@fishfooood]

🎉🎉🎉

[@deanna5853]

Well rob ratted him out on call her daddy

[@itzalex0522]

@@deanna5853yup!

[@jordanmccorvey1368]

@@deanna5853I SAW THAT!! poor kaylor. Aaron just needs to own up to it

[@cassi3879]

nick as a psychologist you are READING MY MIND AND ASKING ALL THE RIGHT QUESTIONS 😭😭 THANK YOU SM

[@trash3050]

Her saying Aaron would leave if Rob leaves is so telling idk what other clue she needs.! That says EVERYTHING

[@sierradior7198]

He cared more about rob then her . And to top that off all the physical touching between him in men almost makes me question is his preference really women .

[@nevaeh-lyonelleforbin8138]

@@sierradior7198 I completely agree with this. Judging from his actions I think Aaron has a "more than a friend" kind of feeling about rob...romantically

[@katerriahill1154]

They friendship was crazy it had me thinking

[@loganbush4450]

I thought Aaron was gay before I really noticed his love for Rob

[@sierradior7198]

@@katerriahill1154 the video of rob on Twitter just confirmed it for me 😭

[@aryyybabyyy9252]

Yall made Kaylor feel so seen the entire time that she had no problem spilling tea . On top of that it wasn’t with manipulative intent and it was genuine This is how a podcast should be.

[@brookebixler1040]

Yessss!!

[@alexkess8506]

She’s actually a very sweet and genuine person. People need to lay off. God helps us if we were all judged by the dumb decisions we made at 22.

[@katelyn5625]

yes!!!

[@anushas.1345]

I couldn’t agree more!

[@anniegirl7]

i loved when she said she’s 22 and has a lot of time to fall in love and fall out of love and date lots of people. this really changed my perspective of how she thinks of the whole situation.

[@maggiedewaard7955]

yeah it's like, she loves him but she isn't taking it that seriously. that being said... it could still end up really hurting her, which i think she's starting to realize!

[@iRosiie1]

You guys asked all the right questions without attacking her but right to the point!!!! Unlike the call get daddy one with Rob

[@iRosiie1]

Her*

[@mzzthang3912]

​@iRosiie1 this podcast watched the show I'm convinced Alex only saw clips or something

[@itsmeekennyyyy]

right

[@itsmeekennyyyy]

the whole podcast is abt Alex flirting to rob

[@rosaliaantinarelli334]

@@itsmeekennyyyy no it really was i stopped watching at like 30 min 💀

[@spicyviolets]

Well… at least now we know that Kaylor is exactly who she was on the show. 😅 Honestly though, I do feel bad for her. Aaron really found someone who he can manipulate.

[@bhardway3909]

Yes. It’s very sad for her!

[@JennaCalifornia]

True, but she does show in this interview that she’s not completely blind to his flaws. She will learn in her own time.

[@13Nena13]

Aaron is playing chess and she is playing checkers.

[@bonniebriggs3880]

She is finally seeing Aaron with clearer eyes. Nick is helping with that I think. She needs to watch the show with anyone but Aaron.

[@jadeeybaby]

Yes I agree. Aaron wants a chance to manipulate her perception all over again. Would NOT be good. She’ll be so hurt and it’ll cause a fight most likely.

[@stephKG]

Love him or hate him… but if there is ONE thing Nick is going to do, is ask alllll the right questions. PERIOD!!!

[@cristinacendejas5094]

I love how gentle y’all were but also I love how Nick gave her that confidence boost and assuring her she could have anyone she wants.

[@Zkbbkzzz]

Totally agree.

[@lennyboyko]

nick was so sweet and encouraging with kaylor and her feelings, even when asking hard questions or challenging her. i really appreciated that.

[@jadeeybaby]

I love the way you’re interviewing her and how peaceful it actually is. You’re asking all the right questions while also making her feel comfortable and understood. I stand by that.

[@saraha6629]

“you guys know what applebees is” is CRAZYYYYYY 💀

[@mzzthang3912]

😂😂 she probably thinks she still talking to Aaron asking him he had frozen yogurt or a soft pretzel before 😂

[@1Road2Success]

Lol you can tell she hasn’t spent much time outside of her state so she’s not really sure what other states have

[@BeautyXXBrittany]

​@@1Road2SuccessIM from PA like she is AND ALOT of other states DONT have an Applebees, JUST like they call Giant food stores Martins or another name. SO I can DEFF see why she asked them that bc they live in LA SO its a COMPLETELY diff world over there even tho its still in the US lol smh

[@saraha6629]

@@mzzthang3912true 😂

[@ashleyesparza895]

I thought the Same 😂 everyone knows what Applebees is

[@jenavieprado1099]

Oh Kaylor.. we have all been there..u will look back on this one day and laugh . Because u have come such a long way. There’s a difference between loyalty though and being used by someone . All the best wishes

[@Julia-hh8sq]

I wish y’all touched on him saying “I love you” to and about Daniella multiple times before he could even say the full word to Kaylor… He said L word to Kaylor then immediately said I love you to Daniella.

[@Julia-hh8sq]

Aaron will probably try to gaslight and manipulate her that he says “I love you” to all his friends and say it was silly and not serious. But that’s not true because he could only say L word to Kaylor at that point and with Daniella he was NOT just trying to be a friend.

[@Julia-hh8sq]

Then the way he said I love you to Kaylor was ridiculous, literally to shut her up and make her forget about what she was mad about in that moment. He should have said it in a different moment and acknowledged how shitty he was.

[@kristin7773]

Yes to all of this

[@kaylaasmr]

does she even know this though if she didnt watch casa back

[@Julia-hh8sq]

@@kaylaasmr Ik she hasn’t seen it I just can’t believe no one’s mentioned it to her bc it seems so significant. She only knows sexual things he’s done and this is a huge emotional blow

[@mandavenezia]

You gave her a great space to be open and vulnerable with no judgment. She’s so sweet and deserves a lot of love!

[@evlynrox]

I think Liv did a lot wrong but her best moment in this show- everyone telling Kaylor that Aaron wouldn’t do anything because he loves her Liv told her “if he does you’re going to be okay.” Liv knew exactly who Aaron was and didn’t lie to Kaylors face because she’s young and sensitive- Liv treated her like a sister- this could happen- and you’re going to be okay.

[@superbwater78]

If Daniella were actually sorry she would have been honest with Kaylor when she had the chance. And she was more loyal to Aaron. We watched her lie to Kaylor.

[@tolooloeditz1154]

I honestly think it was never about fans not liking kaylor. Kaylor was a nice girl it was just her letting her guard down every time aaron treated her like shit. we wanted her to have a backbone but she let aaron manipulate her sooo many times and let him back in like it was nothing. He never reassured her in the way she needed. he never allowed her to feel what she needed to feel in order to know what she wanted. he didn’t wanna be the bad guy and her letting him back made him think he wasn’t. never the less kaylor is a great girl and deserves better tbh

[@kristygerry5731]

I agree with you but my perspective changed a little after this, she kept saying I know but I want to see it through anyway. And honestly that takes backbone to go against what the world is telling you. I respect that

[@tolooloeditz1154]

@@kristygerry5731 yes I definitely agree

[@cathymallory4265]

Doesn’t Kaylor have a good example from her parents

[@adriannarodriguez9028]

She had me then she lost me then she had me again and SHE LOST ME 🤦🏻‍♀️🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@melanieerives]

Right! Like she definitely acknowledged what was wrong in her relationship with Aaron but continued to make excuses for him & said everything’s fine bc he didn’t actually mean what he did & she’s only 22 like HUH

[@destinyb777]

I feel like the reason Aaron wants to watch it with her is so he knows what he HAS to explain rather than having to tell everything…. He just wants to see what we all saw rather than being honest and telling her exactly what happened.

[@tahilahmarie]

well you did give white woman scared u jumped back for no reason like someone was gonna jump u 😭

[@casey2047]

@tahilahmarie 100%

[@hauntingz]

@@superbwater78she’s definitely middle eastern

[@nd3469]

@@superbwater78rich≠white

[@anniquestegeman6073]

@@superbwater78she’s fucking persian what are you talking about? 😭 just because someone is rich doesn’t mean they’re white bro

[@haley5443]

@@superbwater78 being wealthy is not an indicator that someone is white. She and her whole family are Iranian

[@MissBubbakush]

I’m glad Kaylor was able to clear the haters and speak up for herself. 58:03 this is the Leah moment btw yall.

[@JoshuaEllayah]

@@aliahmamea8632 bro she was entertaining the convo wdym stand up

[@kaylaqueen1487]

@@JoshuaEllayahyou guys dick ride Leah so bad if Leah got her apology and forgave her idk why you guys are so upset grow up

[@jenhall7572]

People are so quick to assume off of such little information. But not everyone has that logic.

[@aashnasawlani]

Was searching for this! Thank you

[@ascho5515]

love u for this

[@Jackie-il4hv]

Love that you told her not to consume herself with social media comments. 👏🏼👏🏼 she’s so so young and she clearly knows Aaron isn’t good for her. She’s a such a sweet girl

[@lalaa8653]

You guys need to get Leah on but I know no one can afford her right now

[@tiffanyr6444]

Do you know if the podcasters pay all of the islanders for interviews?

[@lalaa8653]

@@tiffanyr6444 Not sure I would assume so. But most interviews in general ppl get paid and Leah hasn’t been doing any interviews she’s not in need of money

[@tiffanyr6444]

⁠​⁠@@lalaa8653Oh ok. I was wondering because I heard some interviews in general are not paid because it’s exposure for the person.

[@tiffanyr6444]

@@lalaa8653Leah is definitely most likely going for the large shows! If would charge a lot of I were her lol.

[@ohmygodavid9135]

@@lalaa8653neither are serena or kordell cus they won but they have been doing them also, i don’t think they get paid.

[@lhill9973]

I LOVE that you encouraged her instincts. I think a lot of young people (women especially) are taught to question their instincts in consideration of others feelings. It takes time to learn to trust yourself without confirmation from others. I was so happy to hear that type of encouragment. Shes young and will get there.

[@olivialeigh9380]

I’m so happy you guys dropped it and I’m very happy it you guys that interviewed her. Before this interview i had a really negative opinion of kaylor but after this i realized how kind and impressionable she is. The internet is hard on people without people hard on themselves. I hope this blows up and shows how honest she is as a person . Much love

[@canadianravenbrook]

I could tell you all that about her before this interview though. It's obvious

[@shelby6144]

She is so sweet, she deserves the world. And she literally could get any guy she wants!!!!! The possibilities are endless for her she’s so beautiful and kind!!!

[@care-a-lot1051]

The amount of people who are judging Kaylor like they weren’t dumb, delusional 22 year olds is insane. Hell, a lot of you in your 30’s and 40’s are just as delusional if not more 💀

[@brittanyknol]

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 yesssss!! So true!!

[@s-kn4fi]

She's 22 not 15 ... like

[@ChloRuiz0720]

@@s-kn4fiso what it’s her life & you don’t have to be here or watch her. She is super sweet & wears her emotions on her sleeve.

[@care-a-lot1051]

@@s-kn4fi yeah because young adults magically mature at 22..i forgot

[@ItsDaynaLeigh]

Speak for yourself please cause some of us used common sense

[@amethystdowling5233]

She’s very self aware, she’s just experiencing this part of her life her intuition is telling her what will occur and what is best for her. Wish you peace Kaylor ☮️

[@MissBubbakush]

Weird how Aaron didn’t apologize and didn’t see any wrong in posting that story ??? Wtfff imagine if Jay z leaked a voice call of Beyoncé talking shit about Adele or something like whatttt private convos are PRIVATEEEE. And tbh we all told our besties “ omg nooo ur prettier his ex is soo uglyy” and shit like that come on now yall.

[@MissBubbakush]

1:04:32 ugh 1:05:02

[@TheWilleyCoyote]

Ummm wasn’t it a live? And screen recorded by other people? I must be misunderstanding because why does he need to apologize for her being on the phone? Did she not know he was on live? Clearly the live was going well in advance lol so the way Nick drilled into her that she needs an apology from Aaron is weird.

[@saamgallardo6600]

⁠@@TheWilleyCoyoteit wasn’t a live, it was a story and if you seen the clip, you don’t automatically hear her friend say that, you really need your be listening to the story video and it isn’t a clear sentence, if that makes sense. However, even if it was a honest mistake, he should say sorry bc it ended up putting her in the hot seat to get a bunch of hate comments from fans and stuff. He’s her bf and should care about her, yk? Yes he probably should of told her to go in a different room or waited for the phone call to end, but an apology is the least he can do

[@brooklynmedina7676]

we don’t know if he apologized. I don’t think a public apology is necessary. I don’t like Aaron but it seems like a honest mistake because fanatics are extra & examine every little thing that most normal people wouldn’t notice.

[@samanthaeblen2602]

​@@TheWilleyCoyotean apology should be made. It caused a lot of drama and i have apologized for less to people i love. Not this its his fault but a sorry goes a long ways sometimes

[@khanyisilentshobeni8367]

I just cant comprehend Kaylor saying "she's young and wants to go through this cause shes in love,bluh bluh experience. ." cause what im hearing is "I dont mind getting hurt(shes expecting him to hurt her and shes willing to go through this and ignore instincts) just causee shes young. Like why would anyone invest and waste their time like this with someone they dont even see marrying. Why go through that?

[@Mh-xe1zh]

exactly, she’s ignoring her gut feeling and i think it’s because she’s embarrassed

[@derynn1213]

Some people just love suffering, it’s actually pathetic. I really hope she heals

[@ToBeBrighterDays]

Same I don't understand it at all. What Nick should have said is "why intentionally put yourself through more pain for someone you already know treats you poorly?". Why aren't they asking her "Why are you risking it?"

[@ToBeBrighterDays]

@@derynn1213It's really really sad.

[@chrissyg9576]

Very true. She’s ok with feeling used. She’s ok with feeling hurt bc she’s 22 and has her whole life ahead of her. That’s scary that she’s going to be a therapist.

[@Thetruevirgo27]

Yall lyin to this girl. The crying was too much and she forgave Aaron way to easily and people are mad about that lol

[@ChloRuiz0720]

So what people need to go be mad at their own miserable lives

[@s-kn4fi]

legittt!!!! Like they making her believe acting like a child at 22 is okay you would think she's 15 with the omg she's just too young... like noo the other contestants are younger and not this babied and immature

[@ItsDaynaLeigh]

That's what I'm saying. She was crying too much, it got annoying

[@miriamhernandez2205]

People are allowed to express their emotions you should’ve fast forwarded if you didn’t like it

[@Thetruevirgo27]

@@miriamhernandez2205 1. I have no problem with crying but every damn episode is undstable. 2. I bet if a woman specifically a black woman. Was up there being angry every episode multiple times an episode (because we’re aloud to express emotions how we want right) u wouldn’t say the same thing

[@kelly5815]

I think she's very articulate and so smart. It's like she can see the road in front of her but can't help but take a wrong turn, but that's just age I guess, we were all like that. There's one thing that really stood out to me: She doesn't want to force people to say sorry, but Aaron never says sorry about anything because he doesn't think he does anything wrong. So how long do we think it will take for the resentment will build?

[@kristygerry5731]

I love Kaylor, it’s sad how misunderstood she is. I’m glad she got a chance to clear the air. Great interview!

[@neginzokaeiashtiani6489]

I like how Nick and Natalie hold ppl accountable in a way that doesn’t hurt their feelings! So many ppl unsubscribed called her daddy last night after the interview Alex had with Rob! I don’t think that’s right way to go about it, but Alex did not hold Rob accountable! Rob and Liv are the real liars and delulus

[@ChloRuiz0720]

Why is Liv a liar & delulu? She’s the most honest one

[@Codenameisjane]

⁠@@ChloRuiz0720why “the most” honest? Nah. That’s a bit much. She’s fine. She’s super cool. Most of them were honest. Everyone protects themselves to a certain degree. She was definitely in defense mode about the vote and the whole conversation was unnecessary. Both times. It was also out of character for her, which just demonstrates how Rob can easily throw a girl off her game. That’s what happened. It’s fine. It’s over. We saw it and it’s unimportant.

[@misspreciousalloy1]

It's not her job to hold him accountable. And what is there even to hold accountable? IT'S LOVE ISLAND. They are supposed to date everyone to find the person who suits them nest. That's literally what Rob did. Why is everyone acting like he did something horrible? And also, that's such a lie- a whole bunch of people did not "unfollow" Alex Cooper.

[@crisologolove]

@@misspreciousalloy1Amen! The toxic stans continually spewing vitriol really make me not want to watch next season.

[@neginzokaeiashtiani6489]

@@misspreciousalloy1 I understand you, what I mean by holding accountable, it means when Nick asks the right questions, he makes them think about their action. Also, I have no blood towards Rob, however when guys like him, who twist someone word and throw a tantrum never apologized for their action and go on Call her daddy and without fact or watching love island "Seeing the part Liv initiated by saying Andrea must leave becuase she does not want to explore any connections" keep insisting on Leah being on wrong side, I feel is better to be questioned that way he can grow as a person! or Maybe not! it also good for other men (manipulative) one to see and ask them selves if they do the same. People like Nick has this platform to help people, so it is his job or at least a part of it! Not sure why you listen to this podcast, but if it's for only gossip maybe that's why you don't get my point! which is fine with me! we do not need to understand each other! that's my opinion and you can have yours

[@karas7963]

10/10 Fantastic interview!!! Nick, you nailed the questions and asked them in respectful ways, and your timing was superb; especially with an emotionally sensitive public person. Wow, just absolutely 💯, coming from an older woman who knows ❤️. I am becoming a fan!

[@jacqueline6141]

I think all of us women have been through what Kaylor is currently going through & it taught all of us lessons in relationships & life that i would never want to take back ❤

[@daniellafun9235]

her reasoning for the leah comment doesn’t make sense bc right after her friend made that comment she said ‘she’s gonna get a ton of deals’??

[@mayacassidy5636]

You can’t accurately say she said that cause Aaron started talking

[@superbwater78]

Be real, you just wanna stay mad.

[@juliarose4387]

I know I just don’t get why she had to create this elaborate story about it like we are so clueless to how friends talk shit

[@curlyheadzz8386]

⁠@@juliarose4387because everyone was bashing her for it? plus she was asked a question…on the podcast?

[@carsynallee1250]

She doesn’t owe you anythinggg just move on

[@icaperez3334]

Everyone has had an Aaron , and then had better.

[@bryanna_95]

Thanks for helping with love island withdrawal

[@zazalean1981]

seriously 😂😂

[@fishfooood]

I feel like the only reason he asked Kaylor to be his gf was similar to giving a woman wanting a baby, a puppy...like here focus on this instead. Red flag 😅

[@0012alonddargz]

For sure ! And the I love you mid a fight was so manipulative

[@frankietower4002]

Funny cuz I just commented that I think she's pregnant and they don't even know it yet. She's the FARTHEST thing from "big" but the last couple episodes, now, and DEFINITELY on the last 'after the island's episode it's very clear her body has changed/is changing and it's NOT gaining in general. Imo it's the belly, cheeks and boobs- not all over. I could be VERY wrong but for the past week and a half or so I haven't been able to unsee it.

[@Whitney-0-]

Yes! And he blurted out I love you in the middle of her calling him out. It gave her damn, I told you I love you now shut up and move past my actions.

[@saraha6629]

This is definitely the best love island interview I’ve seen so far! even better than CHD but that is also partly on Rob 😂 but I just loved these question, I loved Kaylor’s answers. She is so genuinely herself which is refreshing in this world. Nick is giving nurturing father!!! I love this side of him. And Natalie is always so sweet and empathetic, she’s quite a few years younger than me and I’m always blown away with how mature and emotionally mature she is.

[@leslielinares4372]

I agree with this. These questions are so juicy

[@nubiaadame1389]

Idk why people hate on her and not Aaron?? She’s such a sweet girl with a sweet soul and she’ll learn by herself and she’ll make her own decisions.

[@maester7778]

Agreed-this nonstop a hating on a woman and literally NO vitriol towards this vile guy. The world is very tilted against women.

[@michellenzwilling]

It’s crazy bc she knows she’s too good for him but she’s young and has fallen into the charming man trap 😭 we’ve all been there. Praying she finds peace in knowing how deserving and worthy she is!

[@chrissyg9576]

Wow! NICK, great job asking Kaylor all the right questions! I hope Kaylor reflects and realizes she deserves so much better than the treatment from Aaron.

[@janietheriault7009]

The more she kept explaining the more i feel like he is just not that into her!!! She deserves so much more

[@prettylittlebirds]

this is a very good interview. the host navigated this conversation so respectfully of kaylor and gave her the grace that a lot of ppl withhold from victims of manipulative partners. very impressed by how mindful and well-articulated he is. A+

[@BrittanyCope]

I’ve said it since the beginning, Kaylor is a smart cookie and will maneuver these situations without allowing herself to be manipulated. You’re a real one, Kaylor! ❤

[@adri.dewitt]

i was definitely subscribed to the whole "crybaby kaylor" rhetoric after watching LIUSA, but this interview shows she is so much more well spoken and mature than the show revealed. she is an emotionally intelligent young woman and has an amazing support system behind her. the isolation of the villa really suppressed her confidence and i'm so so happy to see her validate herself, open up honestly, and do it all without judgement. 💜

[@aisharedux781]

I love how Nick asked the questions and at one point pretty much asked her why she would put herself through all of this if perhaps Aaron hasn’t matured enough yet. Kaylor stated again that she’s young and wants to go about it this way and said earlier that the easiest thing would be to listen to everyone else and leave him. I thought that was interesting! The idea of toxicity and youth is an experience that she thinks is easy to just one day snap out of. I hope it is for her. Looks like that there’s deeper things she just rather not face and hopes she will as time passes.

[@ChloRuiz0720]

Everyone seems to cheer on Leah for her craving something a bit toxic but Kaylor is picked apart for choosing to follow her heart. We all have to learn our own lessons

[@idk-man125]

Seems like she is slowly learning more things about who Aaron actually was. Glad to hear that she is deciding against watching with him, Liv would be a better choice since she’s already watched it herself. Hoping she makes the right choice and moves on from him completely

[@_rosalee8]

One thing I haven’t seen anyone discuss is how in the beginning, Kaylor I’m pretty sure kissed another guy and Aaron was so pissed and was like giving her a hard time about it… yet he had a field day in Casa

[@AndreaQuintero-b2i]

Let’s let her be 22 like we all were at some point . Def love that she interviewed alone ❤

[@KelsMarie-mg6wb]

I really like Kaylor and I think people need to show her some grace ❤ but yeah… Aaron’s not her soulmate

[@MissBubbakush]

Exactly. Considering how a lot of love island members from long time ago took their own lives from bullying…. Kaylor is a sweet sensitive girl and honestly I was her friend at one point for my friends and having a conversation like that leaked and taken out of proportion is absolutely crazy

[@jengemakas]

He’s oblivious- Taylor. NO HE’S NOT.. he’s calculated. I wish she would stop making excuses for him. He filmed a private convo you were having with your friend and he even stopped talking on his live so what you were saying was heard clearer.

[@nz3644]

Can’t stand them Tbh I feel like they’re both fake and feed off each other

[@TreesRLifeX]

Honestly I really do think he is that oblivious. Dude is an air head and has no care for anyone around him. Especially Kaylor

[@RachaelTousignant]

I personally know what it’s like to go through comments and only be able to focus on the negative ones, people don’t realize how much a bunch of hate comments can affect you, you ignore all the love and only see the hate. But just remember those people are bored/insecure/sad they have nothing better to do than put down someone they don’t know. You’re beautiful and I loved watching your experience, America was wrong to send you home. ❤

[@gillian.grace6]

Some of the best advice I wish I had listened to in my last relationship is that if EVERYBODY- _particularly_ your closest friends and family- dislikes your partner, they probably have a good reason to and that’s your sign to get out of the relationship.

[@angelicag412]

Nick is an amazing interviewer ! Seriously the perfect questions to ask and very kind about it all too. I think she’ll take a lot from this convo

[@Zkbbkzzz]

It’s nice to see Kaylor be the beautiful genuine person she is.

[@klet]

Calling Kaylor privileged isn't hateful its factual.

[@ToBeBrighterDays]

And the trouble is her not recognizing her privilege. When she jumped up and acted like she was scared of Leah doing a non threatening action, she made her seem threatening.

[@jada3555]

no way i just opened my phone and it was uploaded PERFECT TIMING AYEEE

[@misspreciousalloy1]

She's so impressionable. She just agrees with everything she's being fed.

[@say_aashnaa9302]

I feel like Nick really adores Kaylor as a person because he has been in her shoes and does not want her to get hurt!! I love that they could be great friends or he could be a great brother to her ❤

[@crystalbagby3263]

You don’t have to be aggressive w your words, just the consequences. If someone doesn’t treat you well, the consequence is your absence. Don’t allow being in love with love or fear of being alone to allow terrible people into your energy.

[@festusamukoshi6661]

This feels like an intervention and I'm happy she is getting to have this conversation

[@AshaneShabree]

Nick is really a great interviewer ! She’s so love struck nothing Aaron does to her even phases her but she is keeping it real !

[@kittenlelouch]

the way she blamed leah’s comment for why she’s getting hate and not her own behavior told me all i needed to know

[@chrissyg9576]

Exactly!!!!!!

[@imaanjaffri431]

No bc Sydney (casa girl) has been copping heat bc people thought it’s her and messaged Kaylor to clear her name but Kaylor left her on read 😭 Kaylor is definitely a mean girl putting on a nice girl act

[@j9lo]

yes!! she quite literally is a privileged white woman and i wish she would’ve just acknowledged that privilege instead of blaming hate on leah’s comment. i feel like people would respect her more for that

[@Mh-xe1zh]

@@j9lowell they’re all white so i definitely didn’t think they would ask her that

[@j9lo]

@@Mh-xe1zh i didn’t say they should ask her to do that, then it wouldn’t be genuine. but when talking about white privilege, especially with an audience, you can certainly acknowledge that privilege on your own

[@beyakhedaich6879]

Fawk, Kaylor before Leah? 😮

[@809Mornelle]

Leah is the superstar, she hasn’t done any interviews you’ll have to wait …

[@get_money_yaya]

kaylor did leave the villa before leah so i think it makes sense

[@mzzthang3912]

Girl they've had everyone on before leah they can't control who she decides to do a podcast with yall need to relax and let her do her

[@larajean6756]

Get over it weirdo

[@devfrancis7666]

Best for last 🫶

[@Kristin2885]

Kaylor is so positive and joyful in her approach to life - like pure fresh-squeezed orange juice. It's so endearing and refreshing to see in this jaded and pessimistic world. A very open and genuine soul - may she never lose those qualities.

[@kaylalock3502]

Kaylor is young and has time, I wish people would give her some grace 😭

[@Nat524Ricci]

Kaylor and Aaron together made the season for me personally. They should have been top two at the end IMO! But especially Kaylor. She’s just gorgeous and emotional and kind and sweet and everything girls love in their friends ❤

[@jenavieprado1099]

Finally something to do while I work 🤣

[@SophYef]

Fr😂

[@isabellachavez5009]

SAME

[@tracikayg6953]

Same 😂

[@mariaecarrasco.]

SAME 😂

[@NikkiBWithTheAdHd]

Haha I’m on lunch break 😂

[@stoolienate6817]

I hope people told Kaylor before the interview how much Nick constantly shit all over Aaron lmao

[@janeforeman6823]

I agree, he sounds like he is judging aaron and trying to talk her out of being with aaron. after his own experience he should know how hard it is. and shouldn't try and make her mind up and let them figure it out

[@raven.b.4969]

@@janeforeman6823she did say she appreciates the advice ?

[@Mh-xe1zh]

@@janeforeman6823no he should. aaron is literal garbage

[@frankietower4002]

Its also always SO WILD to me when people can be educated in mental/psychological health and still not be able to recognize when they're in the same situations they're * literally* professionally educated/trained to see.

[@GirlGoneWildBlues]

Kaylor blew me away with how smart and mature she is. We could all take a page out of her book! Sure, she might need to protect her heart a bit more, but she'll get there. In a world where people have toughened up, I just love how raw, compassionate, and understanding she is. I'm 35, and I learned so much from her

[@_rigormortis]

Kaylor, PLEASE do not watch it back with Aaron, he will manipulate you. Be strong! Great questions and podcast! ❤

[@tarenmiller4178]

Nick has such comforting and protective dad energy, good job Nick for the advice you give!

[@ChiaraNicoleGero]

I do wish that someone specified calling her "privileged" is not hateful - that's just the fact. Everything else was insightful and entertaining, but I'm gonna need Kaylor to learn what privilege is - it's giving she doesn't know.

[@savannahmuniz3421]

All of this, every point, and every bit of open communication was just immensely helpful for everyone I know that has listened to this podcast, THANK YOU💖🫶🏽✨💕 we love you Kaylor you are so strong girlie and regardless if you stay or leave Aaron, life will play out the way it’s going to, and in that you will grow so much, love and have so much grace for yourself in this time in your life🙏🏽

[@Karla-pp9li]

I do think kaylor has lots to learn but i truly love her. I wish her the best

[@maceysvibes333]

I appreciate this wise advice through being relatable while also teaching/guiding from nick toward Kaylor because this is exactly how people who are older with more experience can help guide without judging or putting expectations on younger people! I think you really brought her a lot of great perspective

[@shotimetv9954]

The reason why many people aren’t fans of kaylor anymore is because she didn’t stand up for herself. Aaron disrespected her so much. She went back to him after a couple hours… aaron should’ve worked hard to earn back her love and trust.

[@tiffanydetienne6255]

Kaylor is such a beautiful soul. She deserves the world.

[@maceysvibes333]

can we talk about THE AUDACITY of Aaron (and Kendall) for making Kaylor (and Hannah) feel SO TERRIBLE for one little kiss in a challenge and literally made Kaylor cry and wanted to end it made her apologize and beg for him and it was only week 1 just for him to do what he's done.

[@ToBeBrighterDays]

That was Kendall's first red flag. He completely freaked out and became insecure whenever he felt and inkling of rejection in the first half of the season.

[@energywellness8834]

After listening to Kaylor, all I can say is I wish her all the luck in the world and thank God she has a strong family to support her when she needs it, because she’s going to need them 🙏🏽

[@maggielefkowitz9735]

It doesn't matter if you're privileged (you were born into a life- you didn't choose which situation to be born into.) What matters is what you do with that privilege. Use your privilege for good, for advocacy of those that weren't born into privilege. She's young, has a lot to learn, and has a great head on her shoulders. I wish more people would support her and empower her. #JusticeforKaylor. Thanks for having her on!

[@kellybais3114]

justice for kaylor is crazyyy 😭

[@MiaCosco]

I love Liv's support with Kaylor. It gives Paris and Nicole vibes from the early 00's but on a deeper level, big sis fighting on behalf of lil sis energy. Kaylor's beauty (even in her big beautiful super blue eyes when she cries!!), lightheartedness, and childlike joy is world-class. I hope she realizes that.

[@marylynnn7996]

why don’t they watch the show first then go on the podcast 😭like whats the rush

[@Mh-xe1zh]

it would take forever to watch the season, the hype can die down quickly so they have to keep the momentum. plus, money loo

[@kingmarcthegreat8505]

My goodness she is so gorgeous! Her huge ocean blue eyes is just one for the bookssss!!!💕💕💕

[@jastenlblk]

Kaylor is a 22 year old woman whose obtained her psychology degree. She’s vocalized multiple times on this podcast that this man does not care about her feelings in the slightest. She obviously has little respect for herself. She feels like she has won something but in reality she’s losing some much more than she can perceive. Her friends nor her family will be there when things get hard because everything’s been laid-out for her…

[@kristabelle43]

You can see Kaylors soul just shine through…America’s sweetheart 💕 if she’s anything like me she’s gonna have to go through all the things on her own and learn the hard way. She’s only ever had 1 boyfriend for heck’s sake I can’t even imagine what that’s like honestly

[@madisonimbusch9997]

Kaylor just looks like a little doll with her hair & dress… so lovely 🤍🩷