Goku Being Low IQ (Super Edition) | Jobber Series

[@Darbzila]

Goku has like a 400 fight iq but like a 5 regular iq

[@BigVEE]

>400 fight IQ He does some majorly dumb stuff in fights, too. Just staring awkwardly. Gawking while things go down. Extending to the official (non-canon) it can get even worse. There is only light truth in this. Not nearly so extreme as represented with these values, obviously.

[@Chuck]

Lmao

[@xnyte]

Alright about the Tournament of Power being created by Goku. It's stated if Goku didn't give the idea they all would have been erased. Even at the end if a selfish wish were to be made. They would have been destroyed right there and then.

[@Kashimo492]

Fr people don’t get that the tournament saved the universe

[@BigVEE]

>would have been erased Made up later as damage control for the dumbassery of the MC. Fans were pissed his antics endangered reality to this extent. He was being seen as the most dangerous character in the franchise (worthy of Sun Wukong's punishment if not erasure). Deserved being painted as the villain (and a fool).

[@davidogundipe808]

I mean, giving out boosters to your enemy is low IQ.

[@BigVEE]

>low IQ In-character, then?

[@JustSomeGuy440]

Yeah you gotta be pretty stupid to do that, especially if the fate of your planet or universe is on the line

[@Morrigan206]

OR you revel in fighting and you just don't give a fuck if boosting enemies is dangerous, the important thing is that it's FUN

[@BigVEE]

@@Morrigan206 Yeah, so pretty damn dumb (as was being said).

[@JustSomeGuy440]

@@Morrigan206 that’s fucking stupid……..especially if your world, friends, and family’s lives are on the line lol

[@markstriker925]

4:23 LMFAO. Now not the granola bars 😂😂

[@Stormhart92]

Still love you goku!! You took some L's but you also have Goon moments too!!

[@markstriker925]

Goku's name should still be Loku tho. You get it L. 😂

[@Stormhart92]

@@markstriker925 😂😂 you wild lol

[@BigVEE]

@@markstriker925 >Loku Pretty close to two other sensible terms. "Loco" (psychopath that he is) and "Loro" (known to be a bit of a parrot **as with his fans**). >get an L Gokek sure does.

[@Ali-ff2kk]

TTG Raven vs DCEU JL LOL

[@Kashimo492]

The universal tournament point is stupid because the point of the tournament was to see if the winner would wish back the other universes and see if the mortals were worth living. They even said if 17 didn’t wish back the other universes then they would of just erased universe 7. Goku couldn’t do anything to stop the tournament because the tournament had nothing to do with him it was a test for the mortals

[@BigSirSplash]

So gokus not friends with zeno? Bet. Manga/Anime lied to me

[@BigSirSplash]

Cant wait for you to see part 3 the tears will be real from you😭😭😭

[@jocoolshow]

Think about it from the perspective of the characters in the story and not a reader on the outside with full knowledge and context

[@BigVEE]

@@BigSirSplash >P3 All good things with time.

[@BigVEE]

>falling for the damage control made up later after fans reacted extremely negatively to Gokek provoking a tournament risking the existence of multiple universes Arty, pls.

[@anotherrandomguy8871]

I’m concerned that goku doesn’t even know what sex is, despite confirmed having it at least twice.

[@BigVEE]

Lock her up. Chichi needs to be stopped from exploiting this (man)child.

[@DawnstarUpThere]

Bruh, he has 2 kids bro he knows what sex is 😂😂😂😂😂

[@mongooseunleashed]

Dragon Ball Super for every cool thing it does, there's just as many stupid shit.

[@TheOneWhoShushes]

Xenoverse 2 gave you the option to let bardock murk frieza by losing. At first I was opposed than I realize we need a timeline where goku keeps his brain cells

[@BigVEE]

How does all that work? If he doesn't take brain-damage, he should have gotten himself killed even sooner (by Grandpa Gohan). Even if he gets lucky and manages to not job with his Oozarulet state (which he had to have as it really went down that way in canon for him to get warned about the full moon even once **got him in the rematch**), he's not getting fair if he just tries his mission right away. People forget just how pathetically weak this low-class actually was. He would need tons of luck to not just die to some random nazi hitting him with the PEDERAST STARE before blowing his face off with a shotgun, crushing his head in with a rock, impaling him with a tree, blowing him up with TNT, etc.

[@rememberthisname9965]

Honestly Goku is the biggest jobber well until he unlocks a new form then dude has insane amounts of black air energy and pure goonery

[@BigSirSplash]

No he still had to jump Jiren even after a couple amps. Goku really aint that guy tbh

[@jocoolshow]

Super Saiyan Blue jobbed immediately for both Goku and Vegeta

[@mel-el5862]

@@BigSirSplash granolah has also stopped gokus offense in recent chapters by tossing a tree at him lol. Dragonball is all over the place.

[@michaelgarcia5680]

@@mel-el5862 Goku was stopped by a tree… HOW DOES THIS GUY GET SO WANKED?!?

[@BigVEE]

>until he unlocks a new form You sure? Let's check: -(Off-screen) Oozaru jobs so Rice Senior can warn him not to look at the full moon -(On-screen) Oozaru jobs to PUAR (and Yamcha) -SKW is an amp, but he's forever got passive Oozaru (still needed to be saved by the triclops from Pickle Senior) -KK ain't a form, but it jobbed to itself (against Bejita) -FSS ain't canon, but it hurt the villain (didn't job outright) -USS G3 doesn't do anything -SS1 is a fine showing (acted like a senzu bean and gave him a convincing win) -FPSS jobs to Perfection before getting bossed up by Juniors and BTFO by Semi (OOF) -FPSS KK isn't canon, but it played a role in a win -SS2 narrowly avoids disaster by styling on a jobber (Yakon) before Bejita dusts the back of his head for evidence of good sense (none found) -SS3 was an L magnet (had to skeddadle from gassing out in the stall within a minute against non-pressed fatso) -SS4 (non-canon) narrowly averts disaster with help (ki donations) -FPSS4 (if humoring that as a thing) jobs as I recall -(non-canon Super ahead) SSG jobs straight away to the bald feline (losing streak against cats rages on **lucky Hoppu was taken by Bejita) -SSB jobs to Sorbet (backing Frisbee) -SSB KK(later x20 as if it matters when not in the bar napkin scribbles) does well only for its user to just eliminate himself -Omen depends on the version you're going with (anime let it win while the manga jobbed it out, I believe) -UI (as a form) jobs in the anime (though the fight ends in a draw with help) and to a lesser extent falls short in the manga -UI as a technique is instantly taken out by Granola NOTE: Doesn't seem like a great record to me.

[@TheJohno95]

Damn, Krillin's four fans showed up!

[@BigVEE]

Straight from GFAQs. The KEKlin STANS won't abandon their favorite side-show freak just for hitting on little boys. Nope, nope, nope. Taking absurd L's? Not a problem. He's littered with issues, but they maintain the faith. Not even sure what they're drawn to. See themselves in this...thing?

[@johnathanburton6043]

I mean, Krillin is shown and heavily stated to physically the strongest earthling (should be stronger than base Gohan during the buu saga). Roshi is logically the most skilled earthling, as shown by the fact he was wilding out on people and even managed to get the jump on Jiren in the manga. The real question is why they didn’t just sub out Tien for Buu. Heck, even Yamaha would’ve been narratively more better since he could’ve went up against the wolf beast men.

[@monteiro1345]

Did you really just say that krillin is stronger than base gohan in end of z💀💀😭😭😭 what show have you been watching

[@Clyde975]

@@monteiro1345 Dragon Ball Super. Killing literally fought a suppressed Blue Goku so krillin at best is above (Super) Goku ssj3.

[@mongooseunleashed]

@@Clyde975 Eh, you can't really count Super. They kinda just gave everyone power ups that don't make any sense.

[@myduckisonqauck7227]

@@Clyde975 yeah, you can't take that seriously

[@doylemuhammad9823]

If you take super seriously Then statements like beerus saying Z namek saga Freiza being stronger than base Goku end of Z would be taken literal. Powerscaling & super makes no sense what so ever. Can’t be taken seriously.

[@myduckisonqauck7227]

FYI frieza did nothing wrong. Saiyans deserved the L. You can quote me on that.

[@BigVEE]

>nothing wrong He's a space slum lord lizardlet pretending at emperor status mucking about in a single galaxy like a big dog who gets worked up over the help potentially jumping him (with nagging fear of the Ubermensch exposing his femboi ways). He intentionally let some get away and got overly fond of one with the most potential (and did nothing to help prevent the guy from hating him). Dicked around enough to get first maimed by KURRIRIRIRIN, but then takes himself out with that same crap (after having FAILED to instantly wipe away a planet **Death Ball clearly vastly inferior to Galick Gun**). Shows up with his goofy new look (rigged up by big tech rejects with spare parts found in a dumpster) just to get reduced to confetti (then ashes) at the hands (read: sword) of a mutt twink bastard of his one true love (the shota prince that got away). Gets his father and petty crime ring ended there and then as the intro for 19 and 20. Pathetic. Nothing wrong about this final outcome, by the way.

[@michaelgarcia5680]

Honestly has it not been for him the universe would still have a problem with Saiyans but only worse because Frieza is not in control.

[@BigVEE]

@@michaelgarcia5680 Without him, they stay on their mudball and don't advance beyond being savages killing each other. He made them everyone else's problem. Fridge himself is a problem that collected his fellows (like the mutant mercs of the Ginyu Force) to create issues for other worlds so he could play at being a business man. Absurd. Big time coping with being a 5cm brainlet (lizards are beneath even monkeys). Looking like a pasty TRAN KNEE wouldn't help his case (nor the sort of dudes he keeps around him **Zarbon in particular, but also the posing of the Super Sentai rejects**). Deeply suspect fellow, that one. No small wonder he was fond of Kid Geets. Groomer Pederast vibes.

[@salavantias1948]

I Like Goonites as a name. Also, in the immortal words of TFS "This Guy's Dumb As bricks!"-Abridged Android 15

[@lordzamasuvegetablackfusio9773]

Legend says that the brain damaged Kakarot is still looking for how the "training" he did with Chi Chi actually improved himself.

[@jocoolshow]

Tell him to watch Baki

[@BigVEE]

@@jocoolshow Sexual training in that series, then?

[@BigVEE]

Clearly wasn't enough to help his stamina. Gassed out majorly with that jobber form (SS3). Perhaps if his wife caught him once more...? But he fled with an unattended child. She won't soon be finding him to that end.

[@zombiewolf3244]

I vote we are called the the super Goonlins like gremlins and goons combined

[@kklightning5693]

GT Edition has to be Next

[@BigVEE]

GT, movies, specials, games, etc. seem likely for P3. Super, Z, DB, etc. all have moments to spare. More than enough material for another trilogy (easy).

[@ReeceHoward06]

GT is where he legitimately jobs...He straight up loses in many situations that he shouldn't.

[@BigVEE]

@@ReeceHoward06 >legitimately jobs What makes it legit, per se? We talking meme jobs (like something making you look bad) or proper jobbing (making someone else look good as you take an L for them in combat)? >G(oku) T(ime) is where it happens >not the others (especially Super) Really? Shall we go over it? My familiarity with GT is even lower than with Super. Should be a fun discussion.

[@ReeceHoward06]

@@BigVEE Proper jobbing. He loses in situations against opponents he shouldn't lose to. Super 17 is one that really comes. He fought very uncharacteristically against him. THAT'S jobbing!lol

[@BigVEE]

@@ReeceHoward06 >losing to people he shouldn't lose to That isn't proper jobbing. Proper jobbing (from pro wrestling) is losing to make someone else look strong (establishing them as a threat). You're talking about one of the meme cases (in this case, having no business putting them over **the sort of thing that puts you into higher tiers in JaG's system**). At least we're not talking about stuff like jobbing to basic Math (good for laughs **like how 19 is too high for Gokek to count**). Comedy jobbing (like never kissing his wife, which GTku would have done as it works with anime filler among other things). >fought uncharacteristically That's not "proper" jobbing. He didn't even lose the fight (pretty sure I reviewed that to find no KO or even TKO). Sure he needed help and saving. That still isn't jobbing in the sense in question (no rules against it **this ain't the Budokai enforcing solo fights except that time they had a battle royale**). It applies to other definitions, at least (could easily end up in a GT video down the line). Gokek DID lose against Rildo, for instance. He was losing to some nobody that I think base (not even SS) Trunks killed. A small child defeated him via RO (gag stuff as with letting Old Man Krillin knock him down). If we're talking about losing, there aren't a lot of those cases for GTku much less times he does so to make the other look strong. Losing when he had no business doing so is another story entirely. Rildo is another example of that which you speak of, then. He shouldn't have just been using SS1. Pretty sure he should have known about the metal nonsense, too. He had access all the way up to SS3, did he not? I know he acted like it was a bother to control without the tail. I'd have to rewatch (which is annoying to do). SS2 is just forgotten (like Gohan being Mystic and far stronger than Goku could ever be even were he also as such **which would exceed what SS4 offers being a natural thing that would be taken into account**).

[@trashygamer7014]

Bro Krillin got the work without even being the main focus of the video

[@BigVEE]

Chestnut definitely warrants his own coverage, but it feels a bit like punching down (even more so with Yamcha). If anyone needs help knowing their place, it would be the lizards faction. Goon though he can be, even canon Schlurpza is a jobber with some serious moments worth looking at (let alone the horrors of official material with him down the road).

[@michaelgarcia5680]

Ya know what imma be nice. Don’t worry Goku fans if Jobberine can be redeemed then so can Kakarot.

[@BigVEE]

You got a big heart, but sometimes you have to know the limits to dreams versus the disappointing reality. Jobbing is core to Gokek's soul. The verse itself revolves around doing dumb shit to progress. Abandon all hope. Be grateful for the goon moments (for they are fleeting).

[@jocoolshow]

Can't forget the time Goku hired an assassin to put himself on a T Shirt for training purposes to make sure he's never lacking in the hood, but still got popped by that same assassin *in the fair one* and needed to jumpstart his heart to not actually die 💀

[@weskintime4177]

Krillin may be a jobber but hey, atleast he didn’t get beat up by Roshi before the tournament (coughTiencough) and actually got two people.

[@BigVEE]

>at least he didn't get beat up by Roshi before ToP No, he just jobbed to him in Canon with a fucking Mongolian chop. TEN? Beat Roshi, by the way. >got two people Did he? TEN got at least one elimination as I recall. It varies with the versions. Know what doesn't? That TEN lasted longer. First one out? Your boy, Chestnut. The same turbo midge hitting on little boys (definitely confused the underage daughter of Satan as one thanks to that haircut). The noseless failed monk only ever picked up fighting to get a girl, but needed decades and pity from the author. TEN had the eye of a girl from jump (the creator just forgot her **then gave him another to ignore in the pursuit of gains**). TEN had enough respect from Bejita to see him rush in trying to save him from 17 (ignoring 18). God knows why, but it happened. To be fair, he saved Chestnut from Gurd (to chop the fool's head off as an example to people with honor rules who drop their guards **Gokek did NOT learn from this like the dozen other times in his life he should have**). Roshi didn't teach the weirdo shit. Know who he DID teach? TEN. Not talking about that basic and low tier signature beam of his, either. Talking about the Grand Master's sealing technique (ECW). Who was it that needed a handout? Not TEN (he trained with KK for his power-up). Who was always cowering, begging, hiding, etc.? Definitely not TienCHADhan. He beat the MC, by the way. Know who hasn't? Cueball. That's right. Worse, Chromedome is actually 0-2 against him. This is the sort of dude who gets taken out by gay nazis and bats. First to get killed among the real crew (off-panel by a minion in a no contest **quest to avenge him immediately jobbed on attempt 1**). Was already giving up fighting by the time of the borgs (just watched the damsel get VORE'd with that simping inciden **after watching his boys getting massacred**) even before putting on a Moe Howard wig to produce a hideous spawn with a doll (literally spit on and literally petrified **not just figuratively for once** after this high point was passed). Didn't do shit and got gobbled up with his whole family. Were he not on the Lookout, I wonder if he would have jobbed to Human Extinction like 17 (even Chiaotzu dodged it, by the way). Good chance given even his wife is stronger than him (and she's weaker than 17 **both weaker than the SS brats, I'd wager**). His pride and joy is a generic attack (ki disc). One he doesn't use as well as others. Before that was KMHM, which even Yamcha copies with ease (no lessons needed). TEN? Copied it, but also has hard counter ignoring PL gaps. Hell of a thing. He won a tournament. Know who hasn't? TEN was asked if he wanted to use the RoSaT. Nobody was asking the little fella. He got dropped FIRST among humans, too. Even Lambchop lasted longer. It's true. The desert hobo did better (aside from getting a girl first though he loses points for getting kek'd so hard). TEN? Even got a hit in. Was still awake after the beating. When Semi was feeling himself, know who stepped up? TEN. No logic exists for the over-reach. In the most obvious GOON citation of all he clowned the bug (making him lose track of his quarry). Tien agreed with Gokek and Bejita about the borgs for want of testing himself (unwise as that is). What motivated Krilly Billy? Fear of Geets. Pathetic. This while ol' three-eyes even talked shit directly in the face of the prince. Wouldn't happen with the nutter who would desperately search for something to placate his lord with (a woman, wishing orb, a boot spit-shine, etc.). You're backing the dude relying on TEN's move to escape ass beatings repeatedly (just to job to it twice via the bug). This while taking a swing at his benefactor? Not sure about that one. We're talking about a character who almost jobbed to stench when he has no nose (or sclera in the anime, apparently). The creep even tried to sniff a jewel that was in Bloomer's underwear (again forgetting he can't). When up against a slug, what does he do? He gives up. That's right. You won't catch TEN throwing in the towel like that. You know that Nutty-Buddy tried misdirection on TARDku and failed because he's too weak to KO by surprise? He actually does a lot of surprise attacks with no real effect. Shameful. Best he got was the tail cut. A miracle he's such a shrimp as a pirate trap saved him from being faded by a spear. Also, he's homeless and jobless in canon (lives with his master). TEN lives off the fat of the land with a tent as he focuses just on getting stronger so he can do things like save Dende from Buutenks when JOBhan was busy being beat the fuck up. NOTE: Rumor has it 18 pays their rent with her body. That Chestnut likes to watch. What say you?

[@biglad6749]

Meatcannon did a Goku who wasn't braindead and I think I prefer the way he is.

[@BigVEE]

>Meatcanyon Definitely got his 3-0 over the wench. She violated him in the bedroom for the last time. Nobody fumbles the (bean) bag but San Gokek says Papa Meat's version.

[@lewis213b7]

Guaranteed majority of the biggest jobber moments are from dbs

[@BigVEE]

>biggest are from Super Think so? I wonder about that. Some of the most offensive cases I read are from canon. DB's early days have him putting just about anyone over at any time for any or no reason. He gets actually Cosby'd by a commie pig (for starters). Gassed like a rat by a girl in fascist attire. Sorbet isn't the only time he gets shamed by things he shouldn't (shotgun was going to blow his face off and some pistol OHKO'd him). Good thing Farmer with his rifle didn't confront him (rather than big bro). For the anime-only fans (which is all the fans of this character **as they don't know the source material version of him**), a pederast nazi shit on him three times in a row (was going to kebab him, blow his face off and even just blowing him to pieces with a bomb). Each time somebody had to save him (first a rat, then a schizo girl and finally a gag robo loli). But perhaps I'm too focused on a particular kind of jobbing. Things like being kissless? Not knowing when he kids were born (let alone being there)? Making your boy do your job for you? Just watching as loved ones get beat on to analyze your opp? Getting the next big power-up not from earning it, but being literally handheld? Jobbing to your own form (again)? Yeah, Super has some major L's for him. You're not wrong about that. Not in the slightest. Even with G(oku) T(ime) working its ass off to making TOEIku's damage control into the reality of things (with FUNIku attempting to push that further), there are some questionable things going on in that continuation, too. Last time we got a quote (wrongly attributed by websites, blogs, etc. to Z) that pertains to how he got SS4 (licking the salty tears of his granddaughter to remember saying something very dumb about why oceans). Just like EoZ, abandons his adoring Pan (and all the rest). Sad.

[@Elnegro..]

Hell probably include filler sadly

[@Elnegro..]

@@BigVEE I mean the facist girl was a baddie tho.

[@BigVEE]

@@Elnegro.. Pretty sure that's a given. The previously noted focuses we would potentially be getting were Super, GT, movies, specials, games, etc. for P2. None of that is canon. Quite a lot of it is ripe for the picking. >a baddie Hey, she played her cards right playing the long game waiting until the right moment to claim herself an heir to royalty (in more ways than one). She just had to used JOBalot to put herself over. Bejita-sama was already pleased with the selection before knowing she KO'd his vassal. After that? He might just play the priest in the marriage.

[@Stormhart92]

Another great video bro!!

[@Bonez459]

I aint even watch this yet but just off the top i see all goku jobber moments lol

[@BigVEE]

An impressive talent. Hard even for me to remember them all (just in terms of the first definition let alone extending outward as done for these compilations).

[@shayscruggs7829]

As much as i like goku and am a fan even i have to admit he can be pretty stupid and can nearly get everyone killed sometimes. I would definitely like a frezia goon video probably before or after that legends palpatine video. Frezia is a goon the way he constantly beef with the saiyan characters. As a matter fact I have the perfect title frezia being a racist goon for x amount of minutes. If theirs a character that's racist and doesn't care it's definitely frezia.

[@BigVEE]

>another wanting goon coverage from the Jobber lizard He's big time both (slipping further and further into the J field and away from the light of G for sure). I've made the case in the comments (Duck and JG). It gets pretty ugly upon proper examination. >title What would his Jobber case be called, I wonder. He sure likes putting over the "monkeys" he looks down on. Got any ideas?

[@lakotatheenigma9767]

Also to add to the Krillin and Frieza part, Goku could’ve literally trained Goten in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber for two or three years where Goten not only would get dramatically stronger and become a lot more skilled, but Goten would’ve achieved and mastered Super Saiyan 2, age physically to look like an actual teenager, been strong enough to compete in the Tournament Of Power, have the potential to achieve Super Saiyan 3 in the Tournament Of Power, improve his son and father relationship with Goku, and Goten would’ve gain more discipline and a desire to train constantly a lot more as well as getting the character development he absolutely deserves. This would motivate Vegeta to train Trunks in the Hyperbolic Time which would make Goten and Trunks the final members of the Tournament Of Power team as they would’ve replaced Krillin and Frieza. Goten and Trunks would’ve done a lot more and a lot better in the Tournament Of Power as well as develop rivalries and future friendships/relationships with the Universe 6 Saiyans. Plus Goten and Trunks would fuse into Gotenks to face off against Kefla and in which a much stronger and improved Gotenks would’ve transformed into Super Saiyan 3 and beat Kefla. Plus it would’ve been cool if Goten was the one that revived all universes which would allow him to get even more character development. Another thing to add, if Goku didn’t find a way to wake up Buu, Goku could’ve revived Raditz with the dragon balls instead of Frieza to give Raditz a second chance where Raditz would’ve trained with Goten and Goku in The Hyperbolic Time Chamber for two or three years where all three of them would’ve gotten dramatically stronger and more skilled which would make Goten, Trunks, and Raditz the final members of the Tournament Of Power team. Also Raditz would’ve been another person for Goten to train with and Raditz would’ve teamed up with Gohan and Piccolo in the Tournament Of Power.

[@Clyde975]

As much as you said krillin sucked, he did way better than Tien on the team

[@SoulGizmo]

Krillin would slap tien

[@Clyde975]

@@SoulGizmo Yeah, Tien been lacking since the the buu saga.

[@BigVEE]

You need to get REMINDED like Otto already was in the comments? TEN deserves respect unlike BITCHlin. Don't let non-canon material (where Chestnut still falls out first) fool you. Certainly don't be fooled by Lambchop trying to comfort the hideous thing that fell from out between the legs of town toaster. Hell, I don't even think there is reason to believe the Moe Howard can take Chiaotzu (who ducked Human Extinction unlike 17 who clowns 18 who clowns a bunch of people who clown her husband that keeps watching people eat her without doing anything to save his damsel).

[@BigVEE]

@@SoulGizmo If he did, he would probably get OHKO'd with a kick (he has a history with that) if not begging, surrendering, hiding, etc. (possibly after trying to use TEN's move). KEKlin ain't shit. His fans need to be REMINDED. If any known jobber has a base that requires help being humbled, it is that lot. No point picking on Yamcha.

[@Clyde975]

@@BigVEE My guy, WHAT ARE YOU SAYING?👁👄👁

[@michaelgarcia5680]

Now this will be entertaining!

[@Ali-ff2kk]

Gwen in her Antodite form without nerf vs Ultimate Humungousaur who takes this fight

[@BigVEE]

This does bring a smile to my face. Didn't have to be this way, but Gokeks wanted the smoke, so here we are.

[@michaelgarcia5680]

@@Ali-ff2kk late response but Gwen

[@marcusdavis9093]

I heard Goku is from Chicago...on folks nem

[@willjohnboy]

Imagine showing this to a dragonball fan who is seeing content from this channel for the first time their heads would explode 😆

[@BigVEE]

>DB fan Most are anime-only who have never seen DB, speedwatched Z, heard talk of GT, now misremember the series based on TFS and humor Super seriously (like it ain't terrible). They need the wake-up call. Got to help them to learn about this series they call themselves fans of. This character they think they like, too (though we're not focused on canon at the moment).

[@Mephiles343]

@@BigVEE i unironically loved GT,Not even a joke,Although tbh i do need to rewatch the original DB

[@BigVEE]

@@Mephiles343 GT has some serious issues that are hard to overlook. Some decent ideas, designs, etc. that ultimately get wasted. Guilty pleasure or something? >rewatch original DB Might prove a chore. Been hard for me to re-read (much less re-watch so I know the differences better).

[@Mephiles343]

@@BigVEE on the GT front,I love the SSJ4 transformation,Characters like Ledgic,Rilldo and Baby,Only time you ever see those modern day though is in Hero's

[@BigVEE]

@@Mephiles343 >love SS4 Aspects of the design look good and are fitting, but others are random and silly. Lots of bad with the good. Care to go on about it in greater detail? >Ledgic It surprised me to see he got snubbed so badly. Now Gas stole his drip wholesale. Classic Toyo move (tracing, copying, etc.). >Rildo He seemed like a no-brainer for DBGT:FB, but was completely excluded in favor of Z villains and such. Not enough confidence in the original content, it seems. >Heroes Something I stay away from (as with Xenoverse). Even still, I'm aware of it. Baby at least got some rep in games. Aped by Black (though one could say there were elements of the Tuffle parasite coming from other influences **Ginyu's body snatching, for instance**).

[@jg5004]

We need a Freeza good video!

[@BigVEE]

I say we need a Frieza (Jobber) video. More and more I'm tempted to make it so. There is enough with canon, but going beyond it is funny, too. Let's think on this for a moment, shall we? What are some examples per how 'jobbing' is covered here?: -The "emperor" (prince **slum lord**) and daddy/papa (king) feel like they have to jump Gokek -The former is done up by a mutt twink bastard from Chrono Trigger (turned to confetti and ashes after a PTSD trip) -His pops immediately moves to replace his child with a new son (his killer) who then mercs his ass (and the 'army' **bandits**) Let us rewind a bit. How did he get that jockstrap on his head as the most rigged up looking cyborg (still weaker than a fat mimebot, by the way)? Ah, right. He struggled to blow up an Earth-like world in his final form (someone that is meant to be an expert in destroying planets couldn't get it right **fumbling the bag**), got beat the fuck up by a dude who was totally out of it a moment ago (SS acted like a damn senzu), resorted to ki discs, got made shamed, was warned to avoid it and ended up slicing himself in half (worse than when Pickle was clowned trying to use a homing attack). So much for the big brain (lizards are lower than primates **clearly he doesn't know that**). Begs for a cup of energy. Gets it. Tries to attack with it. Gets blasted. Finds himself floating in space on Life Alert needing big Cold to rescue his bitch ass. Rewind (again). How did it get there? He fucked around throughout Namek. Being the amateur he was in combat, he didn't know how to sense ki (and never ass pulled it like Bejita mid-fight with his first foe using it). A techniquelet with a bunch of unproven crap. Anyway, he gets robbed and played for a fool a bunch before getting down to business. His business is a whole lot of 'holding back' and handicaps (like he's handicapped). The first time he has a punch caught he shows visible fear for a moment. He really was a pussy under his act. He's second only to Bejita for the most canon use of ki barrages, but most of his fail miserably (Geets does better). NOTE: Why did he not keep even ONE ball with himself for safety? Just not that bright. Tell me why the same Pickle that was only at Form 2's level with scraps from Chestnut (a quarter of Recoome, maybe) and tired Rice (definitely not his angry self that Third Form played with) was able to ROCK our villain with a kick to the back of the head. Off-guard? Laughable. He was at 50%. Even just going easy as with against Bejita earlier he was way beyond his previous state (to the point these jobbers couldn't see him). It gets worse. He's taken by surprise by the two half-pints afterwards despite them giving the little energy they had for that strike. He bothers to defend himself from the attack. What is he DOING? He trips so hard on this he forgets the SB. THAT is another matter. SB on Earth with an involuntary donation of just the planet and its living things was on the level of...less than base Vegeta (18K). Yeah, when it hit him it was at half strength. He was at LESS than half when struck and it didn't take him out. Uh-oh. This SB used neighboring worlds. How many neighbors does it have? If we're being STUPID generous, let us just say it was on par with BASE Bejita (it clearly wasn't). This for a DEAD Namek and not using the fighters present for a 10s+ move that drains to gather (fans forget this). GAWKza just watches for the most part (before finally figuring out the play thanks to a reflection). But how many planets? Apparently the most in our universe is a single Solar System is nine (currently). Let's go with that. 162K is the highest of high balls (and it is still unreasonable). First Form is 530K, by the way. He didn't even use the neighboring stars (three of them). This jobber move sucks at efficiency and despite being an anti-evil move it gets resisted pretty regularly. So, why is it we see his Death Ball consumed and his 50% (able to go 70% in an instant as later demonstrated) overcome and he notes he thought he was going to die to that attack? How the FUCK did he almost put over a jobber move like this using scraps to power it? It isn't nearly as silly as Merged Zamasu being cleaved in twain by Spirit Sword (guy who never even heard of the technique making a sword from a dead world to take out someone many multiple times stronger than Buu), but this was canon. And that hurts the rep. The brand for this great villain was definitely tarnished in that moment in particular. A fun bonus? He says "KYAA" like a scared girl when Carrot turned up behind him. Going back to the disc, he had him by surprise from behind (the ultimate guard dropper was wide open). Fucking MISSED. Just a cheek cut. When told to get more moves, he just makes a second copy of the thing currently failing. A 'smokescreen' set him up for a big fail. But let us move on. Cooler talks all sorts of shit about him. With his return from Hell he gets one-shot by Great Saiyaman. Ain't no recovery from it. Poofs into smoke. GT has him clowned in a team-up with the bug. Super makes him into a gag villain. His "Hell" is an L all its own, but he's resurrected in pieces (reminds me of jumping beans). When restored (not a cyborg anymore), he rushes his work out to prove he's a staminalet (STILL). Gets folded. Plan B. Back-up clutches the dub for him. Gets done up by Bejita. Plan C (blow up the world **even gets it right**). WHIS'd. Total failure sees him KILLED by Gokek (second time if counting the original timeline). No big deal. Restored by circumstances. Some ugly moments in the tournie (dragged by his tail, getting the can opener treatment by Toppo, got the gild beat off his hide, had to settle for mutual loss while depending on the CHAD cyborg who had already saved him earlier if I'm remembering right **his wish did it again**). Gero is clearly superior to the intellects of the universe in that field. So he tries for Plan B(ack-up) again. Nu-Broly ends clobbering his ass while berserk (pounded for an hour). Has to flee when spared by Gogeta. Just been hiding from conflict ever since (staying in the kiddie pool). NOTE: Didn't even seem to be curious about the person that ended his life. Pretty focused on the dude that haunts his dreams (and the shota that got away **failure even as a groomer**). Obsessed, you could say.

[@zombiewolf3244]

If Goku put Buu in the time chamber cause Buu was only sleeping for 6 months that would of been 2 days in time chamber

[@BigVEE]

>6 months is 2 days in the chamber A year passes in there for what is a day here. Only half a day is needed for that.

[@jjohnson6382]

8:34 I can't stop fucking laughing Oh Noooo

[@blacksquirdward3301]

You done did the goonies justice with this one.

[@spawnofragnarok9267]

Eclipso from DC comics 🆚 the celestials from marvel comics who will win or win one by one fight to the death ?

[@thescumgod658]

All the celestials at the same time?yeah they stomp

[@SoulGizmo]

instant like

[@zombiewolf3244]

Yo those Lazer could destroy a Moon LOL

[@BigVEE]

>the ring laser could destroy a moon Common ray guns? No. No they cannot. Gokek just folds up to stupid shit. An elephant steps on his hand in Super. Actually hurt by it. Filler has the rock incident. Super has him hurt by a gun. Canon has him KO'd by a gun. Mundane things handle him pretty well. He's not above getting Cosby'd or simple 'laughing gas'.

[@zombiewolf3244]

Yo the top was a test if someone else would have won and voted not to restore all the universes then they would have been destroyed and the rest of the universes would have been destroyed and xeno would have started over only Goku could have voted the right way to restore all the universes with the wish if Frieza would have won or got the wish and voted for like ultimate power xeno would have erased him right there it was a test bro they never intended or they intended to see if they had made creation right and as far as Frieza yeah that was pretty dumb but Frieza saved his life in the tournament of power more than once and even gave him energy when he was defeated so that was a dub

[@BigVEE]

>someone else Someone other than Cyborg "Da BOAT" 17? >excuse made up for damage control Amusing, was it not? >Frisbee ended up helping out of self-interest despite his repeated betrayal attempts Thrilling. Buu is the better choice by far. This was just the usual with stupidity being rewarded.

[@Ali-ff2kk]

Could James Gunn could fix Titans on HBO MAX?

[@michaelgarcia5680]

That show is beyond repair

[@Ali-ff2kk]

@@michaelgarcia5680 if John Cena and James Gunn could make such an obsecure character (Peacemaker) relevant and fan favorite then Titans has a great potential but the authors aren't trying you could tell. didn't James Gunn also fix that disaster Suicide Squad?

[@verasaceghost5575]

Goku couldn’t call off the tournament because Zeno would erase him.

[@BigVEE]

>erase his homie like that Guess they ain't that tight. And the other option to explore was lowering the stakes for the tournament.

[@bigdiddyzp1762]

Why do people like Goku, bottom-tier formula writing. Everyone in dragonball is a total jobber until plot demands goku save the world

[@BigVEE]

>like Gokek Do they? From my experience, CANONku is not who they like. Maybe not even specifically TOEIku (damage control done in the adaptation to give depth while helping to fix some unpalatable quirks of 'our hero'). Dubs are to be looked at. Perhaps most especially FUNIku (dialogue changes to make him into a Superman-lite). His beliefs, values, character, etc. are altered to make him marketable not as an asexual, manchild, fight junkie jobber, hillbilly, etc., but a lady's man, fighting genius, savior, goon, etc. Look at the 1-0 in the 2-0 series with Bejita-sama for instance. How does even CANON remember it? Goku won, right? He lost. Both times. People talk, think, act, etc. like what we saw didn't happen. Feelings factor, too. Going beyond that, how did that first encounter finish? Goku is crippled. So much pain was dished out he passed out (KO). He couldn't continue the fight. Verbally conceded he lost more than once. When Chestnut was the last man standing ready to put Vegeta down before he could run off after taking out Gohan a second time? A telepathic (because he could not speak anymore) call is made. How did THAT go? If you listen to Funimation, he said to spare Vegeta to show him kindness, forgiveness and mercy as another way with the belief he could change like others had. Seeing good in evil (using future knowledge of a series that was finished). Even CANON has Vegeta pay this nonsense lipservice in the infamous 'number 1' speech riddled with easily debunked bullshit takes. Never trust the subjective over the objective. What was his actual motivation? The salty run back. He wanted 1-1. Excitement (WAKU WAKU). He was afraid nobody else would be able to get it up for him (needs strong guys and them being evil is no issue). He acknowledges he is being dumb and selfish, but cites having saved the world as leverage over his "best friend". Promises he would win next time (spoilers: he does not **avoids it for a decade only to get spared from oblivion by his Lord Prince**). Most are Z only AO types. They don't know a damn thing about his past. All his jobbing and goofy shit are unknowns. Part of why this series is important. Help them know he goes in drag, touches men's genitals, takes crazy L's (regular girls, furries, commies, pets, firearms, nazis, etc.), etc. Those going beyond Z have their own hardships (movies usually do over-time to carry him, but GT and Super have some hilarious cons **a damn elephant jacks up GODku** to go with the pros for his reputation). Super mindbroke many of the fans that are trained to just take whatever new content as canon. Having his worst aspects focused on in this flanderization has been terrible for their psyche. No strangers to denial, they reject what they don't like wholesale. GT tried to be a puff piece, but "humor" in particular would be the Achilles' Heel there. >until plot demands TARDku saves the day Often enough he plays a role as the MC. Even gets the finish, yes. Not quite always the one properly winning the fight. And solo? Not even close. Closest he came was Pickle Junior. Just straight up loses (repeatedly) to Gero's "perfect weapon". There is truth in the perception, but plenty of nuance, as well. DB is a world where a dumb flat character is thought well of almost universally. Even the deities like the cut of his jib (even as they complain about the same things he is praise for). The reality is one where the idiotic behavior is GOATED (necessary to even be prepared for the next threat). Rewarded for lunatic idiocy again and again. Even for a battle manga for little boys, one has to really brace themselves when dealing with this level of buffoonery. It's something else having a gag manga who likes poop jokes and food puns pushed into serious arcs with high stakes owed to his love of basic martial arts (not so much the other stuff like drawing cars, guns, etc.). One shouldn't expect much, but even while doing so can get surprised at things that go down in this franchise (like how much of a jobber the MC actually is). NOTE: I believe it was Plague (of Gripes) that suggested DB was the start of a type of escalation through 'numbers' (power creep and the like).

[@tylorwray2804]

Hilarious

[@ludexgundyr1917]

Instead of being super edition should've been SPECIAL edition

[@Redone906.]

Jobber and goons watch Salad Saiyan he explains why Goku what the tournament the video name Goku is actually pretty smart. Manga Goku actually smart anime say let's make Goku dumb

[@BigSirSplash]

Im not watching goku propaganda

[@BigVEE]

@@BigSirSplash BASED

[@BigVEE]

>watch Salada Nah. Not unless I want to REMIND his audience (big 2-0 is the TRUTH). >manga As in Toyo's version of Super? Are you sure?

[@DLN006]

When anyone says “himbo” I immediately think of goku

[@BigVEE]

Despite him being an asexual dicklet, this is accurate enough.

[@Elnegro..]

It's nice that all two of his subscribers are waiting

[@BigVEE]

>two Gokubros...are we being REMINDED!? NOTE: 3-0, when?

[@BigSirSplash]

Whose subs?

[@Elnegro..]

@@CoolOkay_ This comment out of context doesn't make sense, I was referencing the two peaple waiting in que me and someone else.

[@spectraphantom5870]

Best way to anger Goku fans

[@BigVEE]

The best way is to REMIND them of Big 2-0. Vegeta? Undefeated against his whole damn bloodline. That shouldn’t be on today’s menu, but we’ll find out shortly. This should be fun.

[@thescumgod658]

Best way to give vegeta W's over goku

[@tearupnationinc.7199]

Don't Forget Superman Clapped Goku's Cheeks in The Superman vs Goku Death Batttle.

[@ajmorningstar6281]

I think he might be one of the biggest jobbers in anime

[@BigVEE]

Hell, he's got some fabulous L's, but I can't speak to the jobbers even among JUST the MCs of Battle Shonen anime. Definitely up there, but I'd like to see the case made for contenders for sure. If anyone knows bigger jobber leads (let alone supports), I'd be interested in hearing about them. How about that crybaby kek Deku? What's his deal? Or that kid who stretches and is a drowning risk? Think he pretends to be a pirate. But anime at large? That's a wide, wide world. Surely some heavy weights out there in the abyssal depths.

[@Lazarou101]

You know it's bad when DBZA Goku is smarter

[@arrozjunto]

🤣🤣

[@mediaskitzuceven3170]

Goonie Gang

[@meatsweatsland]

The hype mahn..... I live for it.

[@Bentons-Crib]

goku is def one of the most overrated mfs out there

[@BigVEE]

Big time. It's a damn meme. Guy can't even beat his rival (NEMESISgeta). He has a losing streak against felines in general. He's trash.

[@JustSomeGuy440]

One of the most over wanked characters in fiction tbh

[@BigVEE]

@@JustSomeGuy440 Yeah, it's pretty absurd. He can't even handle magical girls, but he wants to step to big dogs. Boss Carrot had his number (needed to be saved by Yamcha and Puar). The man was put down (to death) by a COLD. Don't sneeze on my hero, he might DIE.

[@michaelgarcia5680]

It’s so f**king annoying!

[@Heatlifer77]

Frieza was huge got U7, regardless what he did then, wasn't dumb at all to pick him, also, you said Goku shoulda been the team's captain. Why? Just cause he's the strongest doesn't mean he is more of s leader or strategist than Gohan or piccolo

[@BigVEE]

>huge Hugely stupid. Buu is the right pick. It isn't possible to dispute. Throw that fucker into RoSaT to wake him up on-time. Give him senzu to snack on for rejuvenation. Let Dende do his thing in tandem with Kibito. Whatever it takes. Don't risk it all on some traitorous albino lizardlet.

[@dominicwiltz689]

The Goonion

[@marvelous971-j6m]

Great video as always. Can you do Galactus jobbers?

[@spawnofragnarok9267]

GOTOU from parasite to Maxim 🆚 SCP 076 able who will win or why and one by one fight to the death in the one by one blood orgy ?

[@ares7909]

Ouch goku if you see this step it up I can’t support you if you do this shit

[@BigVEE]

What if he were to follow arrows on the ground into a trap and get KO'd by normal gas by a regular human girl? Would that be bad?

[@mconcepcion752]

You better put some fuckin respect on Krillin's name

[@BigVEE]

>respect on Chestnut Why? He deserves a Jobber video, actually. His L's aren't as well known as they ought to be. There are some really funny ones from his past the Z kiddies don't know shit about. It isn't getting better in current events, either. Are these turbo manlets self-inserting this noseless abomination to get with the perma-teen Russian sexbot? Dude is an L surpassed in canon by Chiaotzu (for real, contest it). He retired from fighting a coward useless for multiple arcs (even got spit on for it). He's right there with Yamcha.

[@lou98t]

so Buu falling asleep is Goku's problem? ok buddy. Love the channel but sometimes you have stupid reasons for things

[@BigVEE]

>Goku's problem It literally is (along with everyone else's). Did you mean to say his "fault"? Writing did this. In canon, Buu would be up for at least days at a time going wild with only a few seconds nap to refresh (as a gag). Super added this to write him out (like being too dumb in a test for the previous tournament). He's broken, so he gets kept away from things. It isn't even hard to work around him being awake. Pretending he has to go the duration (not just about getting back stamina he shouldn't actually lose), just toss him into RoSaT. Just that easy. Gokek is team captain (despite pretending like his boy would be), right? He's the MC. Act the part. Risking everything to bring in someone who instantly tries to betray them all, kill him, etc. doesn't exactly build a solid case for him having sound judgement.