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[@davidjones1619]

Every time Mark says a goal is offside, its a foul or a penalty the referee does the complete opposite...😂

[@eddyvideostar]

Dear David: There you go.

[@stevesalkas9128]

Amen your right corruption at its best

[@StudyTime-i5u]

He wont be happy either way lol He wanted it to be given to argue then he wanted it not to be given to argue 😂

[@Hilltycoon]

Refs having Goldbridge's livestream in their earpiece 😭

[@eddyvideostar]

​@@StudyTime-i5u : *Welcome.* Rise to the brighter light of truth. *Shine your mind on how KZbin works:* Mark is a businessman/entertainer who digs down twisting and pirouetting 360-degree spins in the dung of the Devil's advocate to lengthen his sequel shows. This is his forte and metier.

[@JWinspear2109]

Totally respect Mark being unbiased. Makes him enjoyable to watch.

[@bountyhunter4949]

He's real. That's why I watch him.

[@eddyvideostar]

​@@bountyhunter4949: Dear Jacobwin1235: I'd say: pimping of other teams and fans, bringing them into his fold. Mark Makes Manchester United only a foundation to build his career. The more shows he uploads, the *more doubt as to his sincerity* and love for the Reds.

[@LordSeth-hf8ew]

unless its united

[@Alex-un3dy]

I like watching Goldbridge when Man U aren't playing. He's genuine and enjoyable to listen to

[@ElHadjiReef]

As a Milan fan, if this happened in our league, there would be a riot. Arsenal robbed.

[@Tsy172]

wish we were as ruthless as your fans in the epl

[@Casey-Jones]

😪😪😪😪

[@tonyjefferson3502]

what were they robbed of ? they couldn't score

[@k-cr6nv]

​@@tonyjefferson3502neither did nc with out this scam

[@jameslovell8433]

It’s been confirmed the ball wasn’t out of play, there was also no foul or offside. End of.

[@4211234]

I love how Arteta just slaughtered the refereeing in the post match, keep it going, this is just crazy bad

[@deejaylerinsolaja6482]

Yeah I love Arteta's post match comment, it reduced my anger, I'm happy with everything he said

[@4211234]

@@TDM1165 im a neutral here, but i wanted arsenal to lose, and i think yellow is more than fair. and the yellows for screaming at the ref is standard this season so its not surprising, no flocking the ref.

[@q4dxpq60]

@@TDM1165Bruno not getting sent off for boxing Jorginho ?

[@jetarty4196]

Arteta. Never says a word when his side gets a decision, when it's unjust and in his favour.

[@ianjackson8043]

He crys like a kid that dropped his sweets

[@__dane__]

• If the ball has stayed in, surely it’s a foul on Joelinton? • If it’s not a foul, surely Joelinton has handled the ball during his challenge which directly lead to Gordon’s chance. • If he hasn’t handled the ball, Gordon is in an offside position unless the ball has been passed backwards. • if they can’t say Joelinton passed the ball backward surely they should default to the fact that Gordon is in an offside position? I can’t help feel that they really did not have certainty to make a decision either way on some of these objective calls. But on the subjective foul call, even if Gabriel has gone to knick the ball on, there’s no way he goes to ground unless Joelinton pushes him with both hands

[@nstg3028]

Kudos Mark for being honest ! When it is Arsenal and Man utd it is funny, when the other teams get such decisions it is a nation wide news !

[@saltyspoon8465]

And Chelsea, I'm an arsenal fan but they definitely do get a lot of dodgy decisions

[@Triple_X_X]

That's becuz he knows Arsenal is the only club who's got the chance of stopping City on their 4th in a row.. He's using Arsenal 😂😂

[@darkphoenixb4u81]

​@@Triple_X_Xthat would be Liverpool not arsenal 😂😭

[@Chefin2000]

Being SPORTS.. The ball was in Spec's Got It Wrong.

[@eddyvideostar]

​@@Triple_X_X: Yes, Sir: Well deducted. However, Mark is "using" Manchester United to boost his career, procuring a national show. Goldy is a student and fan of football: This is his occupation. More study, more observing, more money to be made professional couch potato-ing with potatory delights.

[@hermon5894]

Look I’m a Liverpool fan so I really wanted Arsenal to lose today so we’d move up the table, but this was horrific referring. Jorginho was used as an elbow pad and that goal was questionable at best. This game reminded me of the Tottenham game, Arsenal were robbed today.

[@loveisdevine11]

please talk about the havertz red?

[@bronzy9826]

​@@loveisdevine11it should've ended 10v10 and a 0-0 draw

[@LordHighness]

Also a Liverpool fan and have the same thoughts. Newcastle played like this against us too the last time we played them. We beat them in the end of course thanks to those 2 late Nunez goals but they were getting away with fouls on us for the whole game. Joelinton was constantly shoving our players over for the whole match and didn't even get booked. I'm sick of watching Newcastle foul their way through games and just get away with it. Then commentators and pundits never seem to highlight how dirty and anti-football Newcastle are. Yes, the officiating is terrible, 100%, but when will Newcastle also be called out for their constant dark arts.

[@bronzy9826]

@@LordHighness newcastle think they the atletico of the prem bro. Except atletico has a world class manager and actually wins shit without having to be carried by saudi arabia.

[@budigunawan1677]

​@@loveisdevine11same badly-timed tackle as Kovacic and Kovacic got a yellow.

[@knati_dereje]

3:18 Newcastle goal

[@WaundersOJ]

Bruno on Jorginho isn't even a legal move in fuckin' MMA lol

[@jonodunn2592]

Dunno what kind of pussy mma you’re watching🤣 go watch some king of the streets

[@jackberrett3244]

If you havent got the tech to prove something, you dont rule it out, you go with the onfield decision...

[@harrison4365]

In one frame you see green in between the ball and line. Yes the ball is a sphere and the curvature might have made it on the line from a birds eye view… but we simply don’t have the technology to determine that. They got this wrong

[@jarlardo]

If video is inconclusive and they don't have the technology, why do people want VAR to intervene and disallow it? The on-field decision stands. I don't get why Arteta slaughters this, and I don't get why he is so impressed with his players after this game.

[@docholiday-lm4vf]

The ball was out by the naked eye so it should be out. Its thats simple, only technology can proof if it is was in and they dont have that so you should go by what you see like all throw ins From real time it looked out, from photo it looks out but they said ball not out with no evidence 😂😂

[@jarlardo]

@@docholiday-lm4vf it is optical illusion because of the curvature of the ball. You need a perfect camera angle or goal line technology.

[@MrNaicos]

@@harrison4365so in conclusion , we cannot definitively say the ball was out thus overruling the on field decision. Therefore the you stick with the onfield decision no?

[@Evilchimp666]

Liverpool fan here just started following you and you don't disappoint mate.

[@compballrsa]

I was watching the game on my phone and as small as the screen is, that ball was out 😂😂😂😂

[@thebonewarrior8757]

What i want is a top down view of the ball. As we know certain angles arent fair representations and a top down view is usually the most fair for these types of situations

[@eddietee6305]

They not gonna give the top down view as they don't have it so they can't give it as out.

[@thebonewarrior8757]

@@eddietee6305 then you go by the on field decision if there is no other clear and obviously error

[@atourdeforce]

Which is exactly what they did, and in hindsight the ball was actually proven to still be in play with other technology. VAR got it absolutely spot on for once. @@thebonewarrior8757

[@TheRealTidge]

Doesn't matter which club I support, I'm a football fan, and you're one of the only people worth watching on any platform giving transparent and generally unbiased opinions on football matters consistently.

[@FiftyDayZ]

That means they haven't got the technology to say thats out either Mark

[@davidmoh175]

EPL is a joke but rivals will laugh at Arsenal, then it happens to them next week.... stop the senseless banter and get these clowns out of our league

[@savvasyolo4712]

it wont happen to newcastle or man city when it matters only if they are 2-0 up against a luton/sheffield

[@williamneailey6756]

😢 😹 😿 😭 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@budigunawan1677]

​@@savvasyolo4712or Fulham and Wolves. They've been robbed a lot too.

[@tomhilliam301]

What's he saying "they've got no tech to say the ball was in" for? They also have "no tech to say the ball was out"! Therefore you go with the on field decision

[@bobbySumpton]

Correct

[@overseas4228]

Even if thats the case there are other factors than just that lmao

[@DarkArterialGore]

Yeah, they gave the benefit of the doubt to the attacking team like their supposed to when the evidence is inconclusive.

[@k-cr6nv]

No, you go with the eye test. And that ball was out

[@overseas4228]

@@k-cr6nv cap

[@torrios4932]

I’m friends with the match ball and he told me he was definitely in. Mystery solved. Toon armyyyyyy

[@SyySkitz]

Get innnn 😂😂 Howay The lads

[@hog3y]

"They don't have the technology to say it was in" well that works in the reverse, they don't have the technology to prove it was out, seeing as the goal was given on the pitch then they can't overrule it on that basis.

[@carmods6142]

You can’t watch goldbridge when United are playing but for every other game so unbiased and really good opinions, spot on here again. Breath of fresh air. If all fans could be neutral like this I think it would help stop these scandalous decisions

[@gurrapalm2051]

Why on earth would they change the initial decision (to keep on playing) because "they dont have the technology to say it´s in"? They dont have anything that says it´s out either, so what would overturning the initial decision be based on? And from the angles I had (which might not have showed everything) the "push"/touch happens when the defender is already on his way down. To give a foul for something like that seems rough.

[@AlegIronFist]

So apparently elbowing a player in the head is within premier league rules

[@norwoodboy6048]

No elbow at all.

[@aavery3931]

@@norwoodboy6048 Stop being stupid.

[@georgemorley1029]

No, no, no! I won't have that. It was NEVER an elbow. It was a forearm smash...

[@deejaylerinsolaja6482]

​@@norwoodboy6048Stop watching football from livescores

[@jonodunn2592]

Bruno likes a bit of ufc on the weekend

[@simontursky9309]

You’re spot on there Goldbridge. Coming back to what you said on the league not having the technology, I think that’s even more of a disgrace. Other sports around the world have effectively implemented replay technology: tennis with ball-hawk technology, American football with its challenge system, it can’t be an excuse anymore to simply not have the camera angles. Speaking of American football, the NFL recently came under scrutiny for ineffective camera angles because it was determined by the production company (Fox, NBC, etc.) where cameras where placed in each stadium which impeded crucial challenges because of ineffective camera placement. The NFL responded to this by providing its own consistent system of cameras to add on to what the production companies brought into each stadium. If the PGMOL wants VAR to work, they need a similar system to that of tennis or the NFL. Be-it ball hawk technology for the touch lines, or an independent camera system that’s provided to each football pitch to ensure the right angle is given every time and calls can be confirmed instead of “inconclusive”.

[@Overhemd]

Apparently pushing a player with two hands in the back is not a foul

[@BigAsianMan1999]

Such a big guy getting pushed down by a tiny shove how are you confident with having a defender getting knocked down by a way more smaller guy

[@baofc2609]

It is a foul, unless its Arsenal

[@TrapsterJ]

I'd say he was falling down already for the clearance attempt and then looking for the foul call because he missed him. It's hard to stay unbiased when it's your own team but just because they keep slowing down and replaying that there were two hands on his back during the challenge does not mean he was properly full belt shoving him.

[@mandmsmapper8400]

​@@BigAsianMan1999what a dumb logic man. Even i got pushed by a 9 year old because i was out of balance and almost fall. Size isn't the only thing that determine if you will fall by get pushed.

[@BigAsianMan1999]

@@mandmsmapper8400 then your fucking weak im going to assume your a fully grown 18 year old and getting pushed down by a little 9 old even off balance is beyond me

[@winternez7808]

If Havertz caught player with leading leg it was a red but because it was his trailing leg he caught him with its a yellow.

[@jamesbothoms6009]

It doesn’t matter, there was excessive force and it was out of control. Straight red regardless. He could’ve had another one for going in two footed early in the second half too

[@ryanturner8577]

@@jamesbothoms6009 No it's not. It's a yellow. Have you ever reffed a game before? The second one you're talking about was a slide that got all ball and the newcastle player ran into his leg. Tell me you're biased without telling me you're biased.

[@skillbomb8823]

@@jamesbothoms6009 Nah I disagree; the slow mo made it look worse, but if you look, the trailing leg sort of sweeps the player over. It is very reckless but not dangerous or violent enough to be a red in my eyes.

[@jamesbothoms6009]

@@skillbomb8823in your opinion, in mine the only reason Longstaff hasn’t got a broken leg, is because Havertz missed. The ball was long gone, he tried to do him

[@j.a.i.6626]

@@jamesbothoms6009if orange cards exist, it would have been one. hard one that

[@Vick-07]

Arsenal welcome to the “VAR ROBBED” category

[@ollielincoln7744]

We have been here since our title race last season

[@Triple_X_X]

WHAT?? 😂😂😂 that was a goal 😂

[@fancyink0]

Dog we've been here for years, Utd is just starting to feel it

[@CleymanYT]

Pretty sure we are leading the race of "PGMOL" apologies, we are used to it by now

[@kukunase1686]

@@Triple_X_X the push was a foul

[@markjeffers4663]

New found respect for mark being honest and saying the goal was wrong to be allowed well done mate

[@lostinthoughtscalminsilenc8167]

Haha do you support arsenal but live in stoke like the rest or?

[@eddyvideostar]

@@lostinthoughtscalminsilenc8167: Paradigm of Mark:

[@eddyvideostar]

To Mark Jeffers: Why should the goal be disallowed?

[@markjeffers4663]

@@eddyvideostar the ball looked out for sure and foul on Gabriel or did you not see it ????

[@eddyvideostar]

@@markjeffers4663: This comment board consists of many who are providing different opinions of each three situations. Even when viewers have KZbin videos and other cleaner sources they can replay, they still conflict.

[@commerceworld6577]

Although I don't hate Arsenal, happy with Newcastle win. Else United playing crap football grinding out in 90th min will reach top5 and champions league and make Tenhag look like a tactician when he is not

[@Xof_D-Dawg_Fox]

This has gone on tooo far now, as a football fan I quit on PL league and I'm unsubscribing from all channels as a protest. No betting also, and stopping paying for PL league on my TV. PL is corrupt to the bone.

[@catdash465]

Liverpool fan but that was as bad as the diaz offside decision. The ball is clearly out of play, no extra tech needed the cameras are clear the ball is out. There's a gap between the line and the ball. He's not offside and I'm not convinced it's a foul but it shouldn't get to that. It was blatantly obvious the ball was out.

[@blofal]

You are saying they “Don’t have the technology to say that ball is in” when you should be saying they don’t have the technology to say it’s “out”. The push in the box though, that’s 50/50 for me. I’ve seen those given and not given every week and VAR have chosen not to overrule the ref as it’s not clear and obvious. If I was an Arsenal fan granted I would have a different opinion. I can see both sides.

[@foxspike]

Was it controversial? Yes. Should it have stood? Yes. People are forgetting that, as bad as the referee was, the ref AND the linesman did not call the ball out of play or a foul or offside in the build up to the goal. VAR could not CONCLUSIVELY prove the ball went out and didn’t see enough in Joelinton’s header to believe it was a clear and obvious error by the on field officials. They also couldn’t find any issues with the offside. I’m sure Arsenal fans will be raging, Arteta certainly was, but “I think the ball is out” doesn’t cut it, you have to KNOW to rule it out. Side note: Arsenal were not robbed, they had one shot on target for gods sake, they’ve dropped a point at most.

[@2OutOfMyLeague]

This is why Mark is so great to watch! Unbiased and calls it how it is. Manchester United had a similar VAR check when the ball was ACTUALLY ON the pitch quite considerably and yet that goal was NOT given - when this VAR check has come with the possibility of 3 reasons to disallow, and given a goal, that is just totally ludicrous and I’m ashamed of the PL today. Refs need to start coming out and explaining their decisions, as well as taking responsibility of their own actions. It’s just like how the managers and players have to do this every week and take responsibility for their actions.

[@radup.888]

To be honest this was the hardest decision referees could take.. call me crazy bur I thing the decisions were good, the first tackle was not a red and the goal didn't get any clear replays in order to get a clear decision, yes there was a push but Gabriel's position were bad and he felt down too easy.. They should definitely improve camera replays into the future

[@DrBased123]

Honestly completely agree. How people think that's a foul on Gabriel is beyond me. Players always win headers in that way and it's never normally a foul. Football is a contact sport as well, these headers happen all the time. It's only because this one ends up a bit scrappy that there's a debate. Gabriel fucks up the header so try's to save himself by diving. Good job on the refs for not fooling for it.

[@Zitrolena]

​@@DrBased123you can't have two hands on a player, that just doesn't work

[@DavidClark-tk7lh]

They don’t have the tech to say the ball was out rather. They can’t give what they don’t see

[@davidwebster5946]

"They haven't got the technology to say that in so can't give the goal"....so in other words not clear and obvious therefore they can't disallow it can they? It did look like a foul by Joelinton but classic Mark kicking off despite clearly not understanding the rules

[@Youtuber-ku4nk]

Mark, you’re twisting it regarding if it was out. It is: if they don’t have the tech to prove the ref wrong, then they shouldn’t and he didn’t rule the ball out, so it isn’t.

[@Legend-tn6ig]

I smell oil from the VAR's pocket 😅

[@jonnybb]

For the goal; Cannot prove ball went out of play (literal guess work), offside there is no angle to prove it's offside, the supposed push is not a push at all when you take in to account how physical the ref had allowed the game to be up to that point.

[@andybeet7319]

Mate faire play to you and your channel, you’re as honest as they come. 👏🏾👏🏾

[@michaelbis2148]

If they can’t say with 100% certainty that it went out they can’t go against what the ref gives

[@Discordisnotagoodthing]

Then why did they disallow Man United’s equalizer against Brighton. Much less clear than this one

[@Tsy172]

shush u dont know anything..we got robbed by that ball clearly being out..blatant offside and push on gabrriel ..Bruno was acting like a maniac and striked jorghinho head blatantly..shouldnt have been on..Newcastle are a dam horriblem team to play..there fans are a joke and the players think they are playing a rugby union.who tf angered the club

[@lewis5076]

Correct. However Imo I don’t think the ref made a decision at all, he just presumed var would deal with it if needs be. Which they ended up not being able to do.

[@srlnation4547]

They should have lines all around the field that detect when the ball is out. Also have cameras close to the corner flag,pointing towards the goal, to detect offsides.

[@Vendettarob101]

Gabriel didn’t sell it enough

[@Triple_X_X]

You saw it too The guy threw himself as if he's Superman 😂

[@davinnicode]

I think he just wasn't in a steady position. So even it is a soft push by Joellinton he goes to the ground. That's foul in my eyes.

[@kingsleycy3450]

I think it's out, but didn't Mark say the doubt should benefit the attackers just a month ago?

[@jax1167]

he said that this morning on fulhamvman u game

[@yusavelli0448]

yeah

[@jax1167]

@Nohandle781 Gabriel took the opportunity to flop onto the ground cos he knew he was never getting the ball 🕺🕺

[@kevinb9830]

@@jax1167 Irrelevant - you can see on freezeframe both of Joelinton's arms outstretched pushing him at the moment Gabriel tried to clear it. It's a clear foul.

[@jax1167]

@@kevinb9830 it’s not irrelevant the ref on the pitch and the VAR couldn’t find a foul so 🕺🕺🕺

[@Savldj]

Arsenal absolutely robbed tonight

[@petersugar7726]

well deserved after seeing havertz laughing in the face of the newcastle player, what a loser

[@Triple_X_X]

How??? 😂😂 Gabriel dived and the ball didn't go out 😂

[@Savldj]

@@Triple_X_XGabriel got pushed from behind and they didn’t even have an angle to say whether the ball went out or not. All that aside, Bruno G should have received multiple sending offs

[@loveisdevine11]

@@Savldjwhat about havertz?

[@baza2564]

Draw would of been fair neither side created fuck all

[@raymondlau7183]

Nice, unlimited life for Bruno G. .Newcastle has entered a cheat code for such.

[@Robert_Blair]

The goal was given after examining 3 possible infractions, two of which are objective (ball out of play and offside). Assuming that the ball was still in play and there wasn't an offside then the possible foul on Gabriel was the only point of contention. For me, Gabriel needs to do better there. He was on his way down even before Joelinton touched him. Ridiculous. The goal is a dubious one but I have seen far worse decisions this season.

[@Overhemd]

He didn't "touch" him, he pushed him, that's clear as day from the video. Gabriel would've headed it away if he hadn't pushed him..

[@tonyjefferson3502]

@@Overhemd disagree, he bent down to try and flick the ball on, missed then threw himself to the ground. goal keeper at fault for the goal

[@jamesmccreery250]

I disagree. I think without the push, Gabriel makes the headed clearance. I think Gabriel leaned forward to lunge and at his low point was held down.

[@docholiday-lm4vf]

By the naked eye the ball was out you cant see it touching the line thats clear so they have no right to give it because no proof that its in play.

[@Sircoochie]

@@Overhemdyou’re focusing on a still image

[@leiva3364]

Both sides should have had reds, Havertz for Arsenal and Guimaraes for Newcastle, no consistency in this league with the refereeing whatsoever.. meanwhile the team I support have had 3 reds this season alone (Mac Allister, Jones, Jota) which were less of reds than those 2 yesterday. Fucking ridiculous, absolute joke

[@m8llermeister]

It's a sad day for football

[@gomey70]

Goldbridge doesn't understand the rules. Unless the officials are 100% certain that the ball was out, then it's play on. The goal was good.

[@OpenViewsToWorld]

I’m sick of watching games decided by referees who are whimps with no courage ! It’s making my pleasure of watching football fade away !

[@DannyJM1992]

They haven’t got the tech to say the ball was out. On field decision was in play. And you yourself on first viewing said it’s not a foul and only changed your mind from a freeze frame. Get a grip

[@savvasyolo4712]

arsenal and liverpool 2 title challengers getting keep getting screwed over i wonder why surely not because they are a threat to some certain state owned clubs. If spurs keep getting results they are gonna get screwed over too

[@toonboy2658]

And Newcastle been getting screwed for years so stop crying

[@elia_best]

@@toonboy2658you fail to realize how scummy this looks?

[@iknowball1301]

spurs haven't had a penalty since march arsenal had 6 this season already can't rely on pens all the time.

[@savvasyolo4712]

tell me which of the 6 wasnt a pen?@@iknowball1301

[@johnfused8281]

What do you mean state owned

[@stutoon2755]

The technology they used to decide if the ball stayed in is called a referees assistant also known as a linesman.

[@alexholt6810]

If they haven't got the technology to say if the goal was out then they should stick with the on field decision not rule it out because maybe it was out. Mark was saying this when man united scored against Brighton a few weeks ago he wasn't saying "well they haven't got the technology so it shouldn't be a goal". Maybe that goal was wrongfully ruled out too and thats my issue is that one week that would be out and another it would be in

[@johnclarey9417]

If you haven't got the technology youve gotta go with original decision which is a goal u cant overturn it with that view

[@danlewis5977]

They checked for the offside because there was only 1 player behind the ball at the time it was passed, Raya becomes the last defender in a way and Gabriel takes the role of the last man. Officials were a joke all game and once again decided the winner of the game Should have ended 0-0

[@DarkArterialGore]

It looked like Gabriel got the last touch on the ball with the back off his left leg after it rebounded downwards from Joelinton's chest and Gordon then slotted it home. Neither Gabriel or Joelinton were in control of the ball or had any idea where it would bobble to, specifically to Gordon after it ricocheted off them.

[@skillbomb8823]

If Newcastle don't score that goal, they don't sit as deep as they did. Arsenal were the better team throughout the game in my opinion and probably would've otherwise scored. But who knows truly.

[@danlewis5977]

@@DarkArterialGore then it would come down to if Gabriel's movement was deliberate, based on what we saw in the Everton arsenal game putting a leg out to block the ball isn't class as deliberate

[@nickh4735]

​@@DarkArterialGorebut joelinton also handballed when trying to control it, a defender does that and it's a stonewall pen

[@criptonewbee3918]

Breaking News! Corrupt VAR officials responsible as to why Premier League is no longer the best league in the world. Clubs & football Fans have had enough.

[@raymondatkinsin5388]

They can’t give it but the ref played on they have to give it you bell end

[@mrbroeders]

VAR proving its either run by pure incompetents or totally corrupt. The elbow to the head and the goal both seen at multiple angles - ridiculous

[@EvieWillNotDie]

The ball didn't go out but it's literally offside so clearly. How was mctom's goal disallowed but this one stood? Games gone

[@bantakingbantaking4298]

TOON ARMY 💪 💪 💪 NEWCASTLE FOR LIFE

[@tumbleweed9261]

Ball in, ball out who cares, why’s no one blaming raya for his shocking goalkeeping when dealing with the cross? (Ball was in btw)

[@IceMoonie]

It’s happening to everyone.. except Newcastle and City. It’s no shot at the teams players or fans, but when refs are hired for 10x wage to ref in Saudi Arabia for a game and then come back, you better get the call “right” if you want to work there again.

[@alistairmcculloch354]

As a neutral I think that the goal for Newcastle was interesting, I didn't feel it was a foul and it certainly wasn't offside, but looking at some post match photos the ball honestly looks in by a hair, similar to the Spain v Japan incident, just my opinion though

[@thecage2580]

It was out, it was a foul, and It was offside

[@VentusMedia]

0/3 lad. It's been proven in (BeIn sports), no foul and no evidence for offside. Havertz a RED all day though. But Bruno should've walked too.@@thecage2580

[@alistairmcculloch354]

Hey man as I said just my opinion, especially the foul for me just isn't, I feel he's gone down way to easily, but hey depends how you interpret things, and I think it's soft if it's a "foul"

[@thecage2580]

@alistairmcculloch354 he had both arms fully extended pushing him down and was on top of him, you can't get more of a foul than that

[@alistairmcculloch354]

The commentator said it perfectly in my opinion, slowing it down makes it seem much worse, but I get where your coming from, but in normal speed you can see there's no force on it at all really

[@Squgglebum]

“If you don’t have the technology, go with your gut” What nonsense.

[@stevensarson482]

Our ‘goal’ against Fulham took over 3 minutes to decide and has since been described as a razor thin decision” in other words ‘a goal’.

[@DarkArterialGore]

Any close decision should favour the attacking team so the ManU goal was legit and should of been allowed.

[@Byarujohnie]

Day light robbery

[@Jimmy-es8bc]

If they don't have the technology, or the angle, to determine whether or not the ball stayed in, then they have to go with the on field decision, no? Which is what they did.

[@JuliusCaribou]

Not a foul, not offside, cant see proper angle to see if the ball stayed in. Goal should have stood, var made right decision.

[@baofc2609]

Only trolls would say that Newcastle's goal was a perfectly normal goal

[@wayneyoung8238]

@baofc2609 it was a perfectly normal goal 😂

[@baofc2609]

@@wayneyoung8238 some twats with a profile pic of a pedo should be in prison instead of trolling on the internet

[@atourdeforce]

Its been proven the ball was actually in, you cant overturn the goal without conclusive evidence that it was out, the foul was definately not a foul, his hands were on him but he didnt push him. Gabriel beant down to try head the ball away, you can even see from another angle he starts bending down before Joelintons hands are even on him yet, Both Cara and Neville are adament its not a foul and they are right. I think for once VAR got this one absolutely spot on. Thay didnt have evidence to suggest it wasnt a goal so they couldnt disallow it. Had the goal not been awarded VAR would have in no way overturned ithat decision either for the same reason, there was no conclusive evidance they could award the goal either. But it actually turns out later with other technology they were absolutely bang on to not disallow the goal as the ball was actually proven to not have gone out. Well done VAR for once ye got it bang on. Anyone who disagrees has skin in the game its as simple as that.

[@JustMitchyNo.9]

As a Newcastle supporter, I actually can't stand Bruno Guimares's attitude on the pitch elbowing players in the back of the head is incredibly stupid, if I was eddie I'd be having serious words with bruno before our next match. I genuinely think he's more of a negative than a positive to our team at the moment.

[@hoddse7506]

Livepool fan. I think its a goal. feel free to debate me.

[@Steven.2799]

Havertz challenge wasn’t a red but Bruno’s was and that really decided the game

[@matthewmcelholm4930]

What in your head makes you think Havertz’s challenge wasn’t a red you mug 😂😂😂

[@zeelthor813]

It was more of a yellow than a red, but I honestly wouldn't have been upset if it did end up a red. Bruno deserved two red cards this game, though. Fucking hell what a shitshow.

[@matthewmcelholm4930]

@@zeelthor813 if Bruno’s was a red then so was Havertz’s, off the ground and no contact on ball, if Casemiro or Rodri did it there would be uproar

[@precious-5016]

​@@matthewmcelholm4930Are you being stupid or you don't know football?. How was that a red?

[@obinna-m]

Bruno fucking punched Jorginho they both should be sent off

[@chrisbanks5925]

It wasn't VAR's job to 'give' the goal. The referee had awarded the goal on the field, so VAR had to find a reason to overrule the referee and they couldn't find one.

[@bendavidjohn]

You said initially that if the ball wasn't out then it was a goal, then you started to change your mind when you saw other peoples comments.

[@georgemorley1029]

If there's no way to say that the ball is definitely out (and any part, or any edge of the ball being aligned vertically with any part of the line means that it ISN'T out), then the on-field decision to play on stands. And VAR couldn't be sure that Gabriel diving for the header was not the reason that he moved forward, and not Joelinton's contact, so therefore no foul, and it was also his contact that made Gordon onside, so no offside decision. Goal.

[@vlhruaiatochhawng3076]

Wow what an impartial analysis!

[@PandyBong]

That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard! You're laughable mate. Clearly out, clearly a foul. Not sure about the offside, but word has been coming in that it was as well. Add red card for Bruno for that, possible pen for Nketiah. Corrupt.

[@michaelrowell7798]

Thanks to Dermot Gallagher's friend there!

[@the9_11]

Only one team never gets done by VAR

[@stevesalkas9128]

🛢

[@SpawnMeister666]

Surely if they haven't got the technology to know for sure they can't overrule the referees on pitch decision. How can they say it's a clear and obvious error if they can't say for sure it's out?

[@petermccormack8518]

Ball never went out. Bein Spots have shown this. Yet clowns on here wanting VAR to overturn decisions on maybes?

[@marktaylor3397]

don't have the technology to say the ball is out, works both ways

[@joshmorris5468]

They haven’t got the technology to say the balls out you could also say lol

[@mil0_259]

People are seeming to forget that the on field decision is actually important. There isn’t enough proof to show the ball went out, not the other way around. If the foul was given everyone would say it was soft. And the offside is impossible to tell because you can’t see when the ball left Joelinton. It needs to be a clear and obvious error, I’m not sure how anyone could possibly think that was clear and obvious. Bruno G definitely should have been sent off. Havertz could have as we well.

[@Stretchycat36]

But if they don't have the tech to say its definitely out then the on pitch decision stands yes?

[@Bazooka183]

Goldbridge wishing against Newcastle goal, and then breaking into his fake Scottish accent. The man is a joke.

[@Heni930]

Thank you Mark for your genuine commentary!!! The rest pundits are full of hypocrisy

[@EazZiB]

From a top down angle the ball would likely be In, remember a ball is a sphere not a square. If the bottom of the ball is out then it does not mean the side of the ball which does not make contact with the ground is out.

[@DrBased123]

Exactly. Most people are too dumb to realise this though.

[@akhilashar6824]

No way Havertz was a red lol. Came flying in but was a straight yellow. Nothing more than that

[@paulchinnery6560]

"This ref is "rubbish", I don't remember you saying that when he gave Rashford's goal in the derby last season. Stuart "calamity" Atwell, not fit for Sunday league!

[@BigManJay69]

People seem to be forgetting basics of VAR. It can only overturn decision if it PROVES beyond reasonsble doubt. Like Liverpool v Spurs.

[@tahaouhabi3520]

The Canons are leaking tears instead of gunpowder

[@bignugget6982]

Why should the havertz thing have been a red if he only connects with the back foot?

[@deantierney5238]

I think your going about it the wrong way Mark, they don't have the technology to make sure the ball is OUT, not IN, so therefore it stays as the on field decision, which was a goal. But one thing we all agree on is VAR OUT. What a scar on the face of our beautiful game this is becoming. Shame. Love your stuff mate

[@BingBangBow]

Best league in the world with the worst officiating in the world

[@josephcole8046]

Definitely didn't look out of play to me, perspective is everything and the base of the ball looks close enough to the line that would leave me to believe the rest is overhanging the line. I don't think it was a foul watching in real time either, soft defending. I do think he looks offside though, which is what I was thinking immediately as the ball fell to him and when Newcastle were celebrating. Unfortunately they didn't have the angles to show when Joelinton last touches the ball.

[@TheChampIsHere_]

Hes offside clear as day before anything else, the push and ball being out are questionable but the offside is clear, it hits joelinton and gordon is offside, you add all three up and its a disgrace

[@Tsy172]

u are blinds as hell..the curve of the ball wasnt even on the line..the angle from the second perspective clearlly showed that the curve end of the ball wasnt even on the line

[@lukedevlin5948]

@@TheChampIsHere_gordon was behind the ball so can’t be offside

[@teach450]

@@lukedevlin5948 Sibling end product doesn't understand it, no surprise here.

[@micckeymol4396]

100% agree with this. Can't believe the majority don't think like this.

[@Thespacecadet187]

Robbed .. This VAR farce happened to LFC a few weeks ago, and everyone said it will happen to your club. It's a joke, but I'm delighted it happened to Arsenal..

[@sambettridge3674]

Mark is right, they literally played on the clip of the ball going out to make it look in

[@xaoc6084]

Never a goal. Corrupt officiating. We need better technology and officials. Bunch of clowns