‘Awards Magnet’: Has Karla Sofía Gascón torpedoed ‘Emilia Pérez’s’ Oscar hopes?

[@lonelyguy7619]

Joyce hit the nail on the head when she said “pattern of behaviour”. Absolutely positively correct!

[@thespenserdavis]

Let's be honest: "Emilia Perez" should never have been this close to winning Best Picture. Every community it feigns to represent turned against it, the storytelling is sloppy and reductive, and some of the songs are downright awful. At least half of the nominees would *eeeeasily* be more deserving winners. If it loses, this controversy should not be seen as the single reason why. There are a lot of nails in this particular coffin.

[@JoshFriedman786]

So hard to believe it took some resurfaced tweets for everyone to realize Emilia Pérez is offensive and problematic and not the backlash from minorites. This is such a blessing in disguise. 🙏

[@Aussie27Legend]

I am not sure how I morally feel about this whole thing only coming up because of torres stans looking for revenge but... like they were there and ultimately you control the buttons you press. How netflix was that asleep at the wheel is frankly the most surprising part of all of it.

[@cristinaapariciolinale2119]

I Always hated the movie and thought it was terrible in every sense. I fibd it a disastrous, abhorrent, disgustibg film and hope it wins absolutely nothing, zero awards is what it desderves!

[@gpeddino]

I know Fernanda's chances are slim, but it will be so sad if, even after all this mess, I'm Still Here ends up losing International Film to Emilia Pérez.

[@daniellebittencourt9820]

Emilia Perez is being talked badly for months: GLAAD said its bad trans representation, Mexicans say its bad latino representation and they’ve been denouncing Karla Sofia Gáscon and Jacques Audiard for months but English speaking people chose to ignore until now.

[@Aussie27Legend]

Same thing for green book but (to put or bluntly) white people never had the come to jesus moment on that one.

[@FrakkinToasterLuvva]

I don't understand the argument that Emilia Perez had advantage over The Brutalist because of the "sheer number of nominations". Which nominations it got did people think The Brutalist missed? Original Song? Makeup and Hairstyling? International Feature??

[@Ryusevi]

fr the noms are so... padded with irrelevant stuff like 2 songs, a makeup nom that definitely won't lead anywhere and international feature, which not every movie is eligible for.

[@xenialiashko]

It’s not about B missing, but about the additional branches supporting EP. Like songwriters and lyricist putting ep on top of their ballots.

[@FrakkinToasterLuvva]

@xenialiashko And how does that imply that they would vote for EP for Best Picture over The Brutalist? Does the fact they didn't nominate it for things it was not in contention for mean they like it less? Same with Anora. It was never in contention for crafts, score or song. Conclave missing director can mean something, this doesn't mean anything.

[@chrisjrosen]

I don't think The Brutalist missed anything, and you could argue EP "padded" its numbers with the song/international nominations. But the nominations told us pre-Karla blowup that the Academy in almost every branch loved this movie. EP got in for makeup, cinematography, and sound. It had broad Academy appeal, and to think it was polarizing felt like a fool's errand. Now that's all changed. But I think it had the advantage because of that obvious passion.

[@jimmylilyjohn]

This season is so messy and crazy like a rollercoaster ride! I LOVE it!

[@marciamesquita984]

Emilia Perez is not a progressive movie. It's like that movie in "American Fiction". Totally stereotyped.

[@bryanalstoncoxing]

Agreed

[@cristinaapariciolinale2119]

But at least American Fiction was well made and fun to watch, yeah it was full of woe me victim vistue signaling but i enjoyed it, EP is just an embarrasment.

[@marciamesquita984]

@@cristinaapariciolinale2119 yes, I'm not comparing to American Fiction itself, but with the movie the guy in the film do about the main character

[@saurabhvashist4051]

I do wonder if Emilia Perez is in real jeopardy in the International Feature Film category or will Academy voters still reward Emilia Perez there and be done with it. If I'm Still Here wins the International Feature Film Oscar, perhaps there would be less inclination to vote for Torres in Best Actress.

[@myytchanneldinakoha8498]

That’s my concern too.

[@joaopauloduartedasilva4101]

I agree, but I don't think Fernanda is gonna win anyways. The movie didn't have a shot at anything before (always second or third in the favorites ranking), but now it really has chances to get Best Foreign Film and I really hope they have it.

[@KaiOpaka]

Fernanda's blackface can't help. At least she's not had a 'Hitler had a few good ideas'-level meltdown a la Karla.

[@spiderguy418]

I’m Still Here is def winning International Feature now.

[@joelanthonylim6792]

I love how Chris was just laughing so much throughout the ep with how crazy the whole Emilia downfall has been happening Joyce doing a live change instead of Chris....what universe are we in lmao

[@chrisjrosen]

I don't mean to diminish it, but it's so outrageous and unprecedented -- and her constant apology interviews are worse and worse -- that sometimes you can only laugh at the absurdity.

[@joelanthonylim6792]

@@chrisjrosen Totally! I didn't mean that way at all. It's just so wild seeing it unfold every day

[@KaiOpaka]

​@chrisjrosen Definitely a bizarre year. You have to laugh.

[@JoshFriedman786]

Chris, with all due respect please stop bringing Debra back here. This is just very unnecessary, nobody wants or needs this. 😒

[@MuhammadAhmad-oj6mf]

I don't think I am going to predict Emelia Perez for Best Ensemble at SAGs.

[@joelanthonylim6792]

Wicked was always leading because it got the most noms especially Jonathan Bailey got in and Selena didn't

[@MuhammadAhmad-oj6mf]

@joelanthonylim6792 nah, I'm predicting A Complete Unknown. I'm gonna anti-dict Wicked because I think it doesn't deserve that win.

[@joelanthonylim6792]

@ Complete Unknown is possible too

[@georgiemeredith4435]

Sorry, I really like Christopher and Joyce! Twos company but threes a crowd!!

[@JJuliaSmile]

I would hope that the backlash from audiences and actual Mexicans and the Trans community speaking out about how utterly offensive and terrible the movie was to begin with would be enough for the academy to see that that movie didn't deserve any nominations in the first place.

[@Price_of_Fame]

is this new editor in chief actually determined to insert herself into every video on the channel

[@andrewwilton5017]

apparently so

[@hupotasso4705]

If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. Please go back to Chris and Joyce together alone.

[@VictorAlejandroBarragan]

What is problematic is that DESPITE of karlas actions, THIS FILM SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN NOMINATED FOR ANYTHING!!! I had to pause this halfway, and if you address it, ill reply and not edit my comment. BUT ZOE is not "unscathed" the script reads homophobic transphobic and the director has stated many racist things against ALL of latinamerica, especially mexico. Everyone in this film should be held responsible. The fact of the matter is that Karlas actions should take the blindfold off for you "critics" to see the reality of this film being praised is not a good thing. I dont hear it in your tone and honestly, you should really re-evaluate yourselves as critics because it is a subset of journalism and your video today proves that you are only jumping on bandwagons and are scared to provide your actual critiques.

[@janechoy2073]

I feel *so* awful for Zoe. She didn't deserve being let down by her co star and director. I still root for her and want her to win!

[@emillion4470]

Ever since Debra joined the discussion, Joyce has been on her A game - more facts, livelier and more fully engaged. Prior to Debra, Chris was doing the heavy lifting while Joyce's delivery was like pulling teeth. Don't get me wrong I've always known Joyce to be knowledgeable and capable but now she is showing her full potential as a host.

[@andrewwilton5017]

Debra, is that you?

[@luismiguelalvarez9352]

Hopefully this opens the eyes for everyone about what Mexicans have been saying about the movie. It's a horrible depiction, it's offensive and its very exploitative of our culture, Jaques Audiard really made an insulting film.

[@TimeIdle]

I think it's cute that you guys think the "Critics" Choice Awards are really what the *critics* are choosing. Most of these voters aren't certified critics, but online awards pundits. :-)

[@chrisjrosen]

We are well aware!

[@myytchanneldinakoha8498]

They know.

[@IndieGoPop]

Timothée isn’t going to Critics Choice, he’s filming in Japan and promoting A Complete Unknown. Which makes me think he doesn’t expect to win here because of voting timeline

[@deniserodas6848]

If CC awards weren’t pushed back due to the LA wildfires, I believe Timmy would’ve attended because he was already in LA for the first awards shows of the year and was available.

[@ella2117]

I think KSG is vindictive at this point she knows very well she s done and doesn't appreciate being distanced so she d rather take down everyone else with her in a "if i can't get it then no one can"

[@IndiephantomSofaSinema]

I thought the votes were for performance, not offscreen behavior.

[@carlosyamara]

Of course it is, but if you start to see that the person you want to vote for is talking in such a racist and horrible way you begin doubt wether or not you want to give that person your vote. You see another incredible performance by another person AND that person isn’t a racist, you’re gonna be changing your vote ASAP.

[@spiderguy418]

In an ideal world…

[@IndiephantomSofaSinema]

@that would be voting for offscreen behavior, hence my point.

[@Windupchronic]

It’s actually for the person they think will give the best speech.

[@smann87]

The funny thing is if the awards were awarded based on actual merit, Emilia Perez wouldn’t have made it this far anyways 🤷‍♂️

[@myytchanneldinakoha8498]

Yes!

[@deniserodas6848]

Hopefully Diane Warren will finally win a competitive Oscar with the EP controversies effectively ruined its chances.

[@friendlypup5650]

I think the best comparison is the Kevin heart tweets

[@chrisjrosen]

That's a great comp as well.

[@danilocoelho9915]

12:26 In addition to beeing a film that people really liked??????? Lets have a talk and I'll explain something callled latin america to you.

[@chrisjrosen]

I understand the public perception, but the industry really liked/likes this movie. To deny that is to ignore the reality of the last six months.

[@tthemonsterr]

For God's sake, remove Debra or learn how to listen to each other and stop cutting Joyce she knows more than y'all !!!!!

[@donp6441]

Joyce over talks everyone, not just here. The enthusiasm is great, but she's got to dial it back. She interrupts Rosen all the time.

[@tthemonsterr]

@donp6441 Rosen changes his predictions every second, while Joyce always has her reasoning for every category. Therefore, Joyce has every right to interrupt whomever she wants cuz she knows better than them

[@cherswigmaker]

Feels like Debra never watches the regular Chris-Joyce show because she changes the flow to a very stilted way of talking about things. She keeps saying, ‘let’s talk about this, let’s talk about that’, darling, who are you? ain’t you a guest or the queen? I hope this is not a permanent thing.

[@KaiOpaka]

She's the boss. This is red hot Oscar discourse time. You'll live.

[@haveawish1993]

I respectfully disagree with you all about Zoe, I hope she doesn't win any awards for this role. She was the best part in the movie, but that isn't hard since everything else was awful. I hope the movie doesn't win one category

[@cristinaapariciolinale2119]

The movie was a dumpster fire so being the best is not much. Zoe does not desserve any awards, this movie was a woke disaster that imploded.

[@Sebarguy]

"I'm not RACIST if I were RACIST... I would NOT have worked with Zoe Saldaña" KSG ipse dixit 🤔...😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@ggooof1341]

Zoe's chance to win has definitely been decreased drastically, it's hard to vote for EP in ANY category after the drama, and there were a report saying that about the oscars voters. and Zoe's insincere speech in London critics are so off putting, not knowing English and thinks the EP drama don't affect her even tho the voting closed before that. She should be recognize but not in this movie

[@Pacman398]

Watching programs like this is a helpful reminder about what political nonsense these entertainment awards are. The one word that you never hear in analysis like this about who wins and who loses or who is even nominated as the actual "quality" of the film.

[@delia88209]

Karla was never really a front runner for best actress

[@Aussie27Legend]

Is it over? No. I've seen some of the things americans vote for...

[@umairuddinshaikh9433]

That interview of karla was so satire

[@madrouter]

Don't penalize Saldaña for this controversy. Penalize Saldaña for La Vaginoplastia.

[@tscribe515]

And also penalize her for grandstanding at the Golden Globes, hijacking the show for her long and self-aggrandizing acceptance speech for Best Supporting Actress, and THEN going up on stage for no apparent reason when the winners of Best Song -- from "Emilia Perez" -- were giving their acceptance speech. Saldana is an egomaniac.

[@madrouter]

@@tscribe515 There's a reason she hasn't been rewarded over her career. She isn't that good.

[@Pacman398]

The Oscars have dodged a bullet with this controversy. Emilia Perez is probably the worst film ever to receive a best picture nomination. For it to receive 13 nominations is embarrassing for the Academy. Based on quality alone, this movie should not have been nominated for a single award. It should win zero. Again not because of this stupid controversy but because it is a terrible terrible film.

[@KaiOpaka]

Some people are feeling bad for Zoe, but others are bringing up her colorism conversation around playing Nina Simone again. There could be backlash to punishing Zoe or it could hurt her by association. I'm not sure where this is gonna go.

[@khorkina2010]

Emilia 13 noms. 0 Oacars

[@joaopauloduartedasilva4101]

My favorite supporting actress performance was Isabella Rosselini, but I hope Zoe gets it. Isabella won't win anyways and I think Zoe deserves some flowers.

[@AmyCS83]

Don't understand why Emilia Perez is a front runner in international film. It is boring, a drag, nobody really likes it. The best I saw people saying was "it was ok"

[@IndiephantomSofaSinema]

literally "drag"

[@MrJoseoz]

Life imitates art, Emilia perez crashed and dies in film, crashed and burn via tweets in real life

[@ReadingMartin]

I like this three-people kind of setup bc you add another perspective, just hope we don't lose the Joyce-Chris vids which feel less about taking the race seriously and more of a hang.

[@timgriffin3368]

Karla has a big mouth and cannot let it rest. It's sad but true. Now, Now, the EP haters get their wish. Oh well. I didnt love it but wasn't in the haters camp.

[@TheDisruptiveOne]

Hopefully. Look. It doesn’t feel right to celebrate that movie. I wouldn’t vote it for anything. Even song.

[@juliagrillorabello4511]

this is a terrible film from start to end

[@The_Jupiter2_Mission]

James Gunn gets a free pass for his prior bad tweets of course.

[@chrisjrosen]

That doesn't seem accurate. James Gunn got fired from Guardians and Marvel because of his problematic tweets. He was rehired after making several apologies and seemingly earnest attempts to make amends for his remarks. I don't know; I feel like that situation was handled well by all parties and he didn't receive a "free pass."

[@IndiephantomSofaSinema]

the Paedo is a protected class in Hollywood. Not surprising really.

[@mikekelly4702]

why is debra needed ? annoying

[@andrewwilton5017]

please keep this just chris and joyce, debra takes away from your chemistry and banter

[@drewmcgill5290]

Rude

[@andrewwilton5017]

@@drewmcgill5290 how? i said please.

[@simonlk4315]

I disagree, she fits in great already. Give her some more time.

[@MarieRoque3985]

Hard disagree. Debra is good

[@Brendanstop]

They obviously like having her on. Let them be.

[@fluffyyellowballs]

I like Debra. Who knows, Chris and Joyce might prefer to have her around for phase 2. Joyce is quite open she finds this part boring. It might be less work for them, too, with another person and less time to fill.

[@julieAmarshall]

Please Debra manage from afar. We just want Joyce and Chris.

[@KaiOpaka]

Rude. Y'all were raised in a barn.

[@andrewwilton5017]

@@KaiOpaka are you her trained defence dog? the audience doesn't want her forcing her way onto everything to do with gold derby.

[@myytchanneldinakoha8498]

Debra is poorly lit.

[@Paulo-1999]

Oh, you bet, you got that right. She really is.

[@MichaelObregon-x1m]

Emilia Perez, In case you like this movie... ok. Agree, we all have different taste for films and then I would assume that you are not Mexican. You want to talk about the facts, well, here are the facts: *This movie only shows all the cliches about Mexican culture and use them/exploits them in the cheapest "Hollywood Representation" to display/depict Mexican Culture/Society. *There are Mariachi bands and dangerous streets in every city in Mexico, Yes... really ? *This film is about Mexico and yet has no Mexican actors. Yes, no good actors in Mexico... really ? *What is the best way to show Mexico's social problems ? Yes, a Narco Musical... really ? *A film about a Mexican family and the mother does not speak Mexican spanish... really ? *This movie is about the reality of life in Mexico and was shot in Paris... really ? *If you go to a restaurant or coffee shop in any city in Mexico, you will be kidnapped... really ? *The songs in this movie have nothing to do with Mexican culture. Mexican singers... naahh. I can't freaking understand why this movie has more Oscar nominations than Casablanca, The Lord of The Rings, Chicago, The Revenant, Forrest Gump and Schindler's List... Why ? FYI TRUE STORY: The Mexican journalists and students of cinematography had scheduled a meeting with director Jacques Audiard at Cineteca Nacional located in Mexico City on January 14th, needless to say everybody was waiting for him and guess what... he canceled at the last minute.... COWARD. Please talk about the facts, that's why most people in Mexico do not like this film. In short, this movie is stupidity at its finest.

[@chirisici]

She should fall on her sword and withdraw her nomination , give the 6th spot the nom. It’s the only thing that will salvage the other categories for the movie.

[@joelanthonylim6792]

If she withdraws no one is allowed to take the spot. It'll just be remaining 4.

[@marianaherrera2448]

I just don’t understand. The movie is SO bad! Bad story, bad directing, bad songs

[@victorcoutinho156]

The film is bad regardless.

[@drdavid1963]

I feel sorry for her, to be honest. I know her tweets are out there but so are everybody else's. She is being targeted and the film is being targeted. Film Twitter have launched such a campaign of hate against the film, this was bound to happen. It's so common to blame the tweeter rather than the people who are spending 24 hours a day trying to find the tweets. It could happen to anyone basically. You might argue that not everyone has islamophobic or racist tweets. But people can draw attention to any tweet and it can be turned into something offensive. That's the whole point. And the sad thing is it's only a film. How can people direct so much hatred towards something that isn't even real? It's bizarre. No one has been murdered. People aren't being held hostage. You can just forget it. But those haters have to destroy it and leave a path of destruction that leaves Karla Sofia Gascon caught up in it. The sad thing is this kind of thing signals a win for Wicked, the least offensive film nominated. Do we really want bland, inoffensive films winning Best Picture for the foreseeable?

[@andrewwilton5017]

wow, what a great way to completely sidestep KSG's YEARS of racism and islamophobia, she is clearly full of hate and considering the wave of hatred in the world right now she should absolutely be held accountable. Being trans or from a minority doesn't excuse your mistakes or hatred. people from minorities want to be treated with equality and respect, not infantilised and held on a pedestal. Nobody has been murdered but her comments are very much in a line with a wave of hatred across the world that is in fact leading to many deaths.

[@xenialiashko]

Debra is great, a nice addition.

[@mikekelly4702]

the oscar show will be better than the films

[@El_oh7199]

I still hope Zoe Saldana wins best supporting actress. She shouldn't suffer for her co star's stupidity

[@patriciaespino6167]

I still stand by my conviction that Ariana Grande can win. Why are people underestimating her so much? Like I have said in previous videos, I believe that Ariana gives the better performance than Zoe Saldaña. And given the massive controversy with EP, with the massive controversy with Karla’s racist rants it’s like awarding Zoe even though she is innocent in the situation, awarding the movie that is promoting all of these racist things. Zoe deserves better than that. Ari for the win! 💚💖

[@MelancholicAwesomnes]

I think, and unfortunately agree, that Saldana has much more connections to the industry than Ariana. I can see actors and industry people feeling like Ariana is too new to vote her over a more experienced actress regardless of performance.

[@ggooof1341]

yes Zoe needs to win an Oscar but not for this role and movie, this 100% should go to Ariana. Zoe has more connection in Hollywood but Ariana's performance was so unexpectedly great that they might award her for the effort especially for her comedies and singing in Wicked

[@joncardenas3203]

I don't like the new format

[@LAZISH]

If the Substance is cool movie I'm Elizabeth Taylor🙃😆😅🤣😂

[@dana17958]

I hope Ariana benefits from this and eventually wins. everything about ep is just so pretentious and performative to the point I feel it’s insulting my intelligence like even Zoe acting like she can’t speak English anymore despite being born in New Jersey and raised in Queens New York like please cut the bull

[@MelancholicAwesomnes]

That's my thing, Zoe is so insincere. Talking about the 'message of this movie' like you were so enthralled about a movie about a movie set in Mexico you didn't notice it had little to no input from Mexico. This has always and only been about the Oscar for her and it gets under my skin because she does have the connections that people will overlook a lot of her foolishness

[@keiar951]

@@MelancholicAwesomnes what are u talking about

[@MelancholicAwesomnes]

@@keiar951 I'm saying that it is clear that Saldana doesn't gaf about a message or anything like that. She just wants to win an Oscar. So much so that she would attach herself to a film that from inception was problematic: A french director making a movie about a Mexican cartel transwoman without input from actual Mexican creative and exactly one Mexican actress who ironically has been completely pushed out of awards buzz. I think everyone involved deserves critcism including Saldana. But it won't matter because she has Hollywood connections and she will likely win because of those connections not necessarily because she gave the best performance. On top of that, she should be in Best Actress not Supporting but again this was an Oscar play for her. So she attached herself to this movie not out of a message or that she has love for Mexico or the trans experience. She just wants an oscar.

[@dana17958]

@@MelancholicAwesomnes exactly, like saying the movie came from a place of "research and hardwork" despite the people of said culture telling you it’s not and the director himself admitting it, and then she thanks him "for not allowing language to limit his curiosity to understand human behavior" and it’s like, have we watched the same movie?? this is one of the most shallow and stereotypical depictions of the communities it centers and the subject matter it tackles, it’s almost as if this movie was exclusively made to be heralded as this progressive masterpiece but it just fell flat on it’s face because of how dishonest it is and how much it contradicts itself and they’re still running with that narrative to try to salvage what they can

[@keiar951]

@ this is Zoe first time get nominated so course who wouldn’t be im sure Ariana feels the same about wanna get the Oscar for her movie