GoldenEye - Ourumov & Mishkin Meeting

[@KOHF34]

Besides Bond, my favorite character is Mishkin. He is an honest, hard working official who takes his job seriously and was willing to listen to Bond and Natalya. His character was very well-written.

[@TedShatner10]

​​@HagmireI assumed they were more loyal to Gen. Ourumov than to the relatively uncorrupt Mishkin and through Ourumov got corrupted by the Janus crime organization through bribery and arms dealing grift (we've been seeing that play out in RL with the Russo-Ukraine War and the activities of the Wagner Group).

[@CincinnatusJohnsoniGF9rZxii]

He was a clown sucking off their ultimate enemy, blowing up their facilities... the good general knows the worlds old and still existing ancient enemy. The Weasel Crown & Their Weasel ME partner imposter creation on ancient lands. General was going all the way about dealing with it once and for all.

[@CincinnatusJohnsoniGF9rZxii]

They're all fallen killer Beast stooges, but the General and 006 were the most legit out of those in this one. It's usually Bond, but not this time.

[@dabeiisalles]

RIP Gottfried John, actor who played General Ouremov. He will be always the Face of That Bond-Film for me. Nice Memory of my childhood. He died today

[@cybernautadventurer]

the ugliest villain in bond history

[@eduardovp581]

Jim Carroll true

[@jrc01718]

Face Off not Jaws..? :p

[@elmysteriousman9908]

Is that so? You seem to be using general gilbert Gottfrieds death to just get likes on gay ass youtube. You a straight up car salesman who most likely has a lousy track record. I will pray you get the hello you need buddy! In the meantime leave the intelligence comments to me and anyone else who is smart. You weak cheap likes commenter. Get yourself,a real flow with ppl not putting you on blast

[@Oxygen97]

@@elmysteriousman9908 Shut the fuck up, you sound like a clown lmfao.

[@SafwanNet]

Now that is a defense minister. He did not buy the general's story

[@WorldNetExplorer]

These two actors use such beautiful subtlety in this exchange. I love how Ourumov's smile quietly fades and he swallows when he learns of a second survivor and how Mishkin's eyes and tone change ever so slightly to Ourumov's "investigation" results.

[@thebrokenrattle]

Mishikin is calm and rational, it would be nice to have leaders like that again.

[@BarberJ95]

In general or particularly in Russia? Lol

[@brandonallen3289]

@@BarberJ95 I would say in general. Every country should have leaders like that. Or at least competent.

[@jakob4381]

Is he. Or do you. Haha.

[@DevoutSkeptic]

I like how the actor who plays Mishkin is French and the actor who plays Ourumov is German, yet they're both speaking English and pretending to be Russian.

[@josephmullin9077]

DevoutSkeptic Yeah theyre gifted actors when it comes down to accents.

[@Thelastromanemporer]

The guy who plays Ourumov still sounds German, but he's still a good actor nonetheless. He is also the villain in the "Klaus Störtebecker" film.

[@jeffkardosjr.3825]

His French accent shows through but if his were a Russian Govt. meeting that took place 100 years before it wouldn't be surprising since the elites in imperial times spoke French.

[@scottknode898]

DevoutSkeptic actor Tyheky Karyo who played Mishkin was born in Istanbul Turkey although he did play French character in the Mel Gibson war film The Patriot and did grow up In France in real life.

[@BitcoinMotorist]

Russia is a big country, maybe they’re from different parts of Russia with slightly different dialects

[@jonnnyren6245]

Ourumov has such a mesmerizing voice.

[@treehuggerdude4]

I loved this scene. The actors were excellent. Based on his performance, you got a sense that Ourumov was both a dangerous and competent man as well as a flawed and desperate man (similar to Le Chiffre in Casino Royale.) The way the actor does it comes off super convincing and well done- very human and realistic. When the Defense Minister mentions Natalya, you can see really nuanced acting. His look has panic, fear, defiance and danger. Defense Minister Mishkin was excellent as well. His coolness and severity coupled nicely with Ourumov's performance.

[@luigi2891]

I love how Mishkin already seems suspicious of Ourumov, and sticks it to him to investigate his own army

[@scottknode898]

Mike Quattrocchi he was suspicious when Ourmov didn’t know whereabouts of his own people and Mishskin knew he was corrupt and didn’t trust Ourmov

[@DakariKingMykan]

However, like all organizations, suspicion never cuts it. Even if you know SOMEHOW someone is guilty, you cannot arrest them until you obtain positive proof. Until Natalya testifies his guilt, Ourumov is off the hook

[@doolittlegeorge]

Certainly suspicious of "Space Division..

[@RedCerberus010]

​@@doolittlegeorge Russian Army has Space Forces

[@busydad4858]

Until yesterday I had absolutely no idea that Mishkin was played by a younger Tcheky Karyo of “Baptiste” fame, one of my favourite actors! A small but important role in this.

[@billa107]

I like how this movie had you get emotionally attached to it's characters.

[@krasnajazvezda2708]

RIP Ourumov

[@GN-dp7ej]

@@elmysteriousman9908 someone seems generally upset

[@scottknode898]

Krasnaja Zvezda his real name was Gottfried John

[@scottknode898]

Your Daddy his name was Gottfried John not Gilbert Gottfried, who is the dumbass now? Gilbert Gottfried is a comedian

[@elmysteriousman9908]

@@scottknode898 Nah, I know who I'm talking about, so dont go tying to put me on ' false 'blast. Ppl know better than to believe such a despicable comment. You really should get off this website immigration!!!

[@sovietgooseboy4144]

@@elmysteriousman9908 I like Ourumovs hat.

[@sebastianfitzptraick7395]

This film was just brilliant top to bottom

[@panditsharma6842]

Greatest movie I have ever seen and see again and again when I got time

[@HenrikNeslow]

Gen. Ourumov is awesome!

[@daneburton5747]

You can tell by Ourumov’s reaction at 1:34 that he’s just shit himself knowing someone (Natalia) is still alive and witnessed what he and Onatopp did, he’s f*%*%* ....

[@gaynzz6841]

Thank you Major.

[@tfeersty]

He thought the council would accept his resignation so he could simply disappear into the ranks of Janus.

[@retniwnevets357]

Gottfrieds accent is so awesome.

[@josephmullin9077]

Retniw Nevets it is. This is the only movie ive heard him speak in english. Ive never heard him give interviews in english despite appearing to be a fluent english speaker.

[@markusschaddel264]

That accent is german. Because he is an german actor.

[@josephmullin9077]

Markus Schäddel Good point! Strange how he was never in any other english speaking movies though.

[@scottknode898]

Retniw Nevets he was a German actor not Russian

[@olzhas1one755]

It's also quite accurate as to how a real Russian accent would sound like (There are many "russian accents", and this is one of them)

[@superfanb5742]

Mishkin: it appears you were right bond. General ouremov is our traitor Bond: even trusted friends are capable of betrayal

[@CincinnatusJohnsoniGF9rZxii]

The guy wasn't a traitor. He was an extremist Russian.

[@CincinnatusJohnsoniGF9rZxii]

Yes, he would eliminate those in the way of the mission, which was to blow up London. Hardly a traitor for a Russian general.

[@neilburns8869]

Always liked Tcheky Karyo as an actor. Both in Goldeneye and The Core. French/Turkish actor.

[@BlueEyes-ii4zz]

In Wing Commander he played James "Paladin" Taggart whose in the continuity of the games was a Scotsman yet he still speaks in a French accent with no references to him originating from Scotland

[@SiConverted]

Favourite scene of my favourite movie. Thanks.

[@SugarfreeYT]

'...I was aware, only of the one'

[@oneshotpete]

There was a girl also whose body was not among the dead: Natalya Fyodorovna Simonova, a level two programmer.

[@americanski521]

1:03 everybody looking around like "y'all hear this shit?"

[@jameswilson1984]

Mishkin - General Ourumov, please deliver your report. Ourumov - What no small talk? Nooooo chit chat?

[@tiredveteranakazzzveteran9597]

lol

[@tiredveteranakazzzveteran9597]

That's the problem with interrogations these days...

[@KM-em9me]

Bond movies are so well made the atmosphere and scenery are so convincing you forget you're watching a movie.

[@DarkMerchant2222]

you can see me marching outside.

[@JMWall]

Somebody pretty high up had to have strategically withheld information that there were two survivors from Ourumov. Probably an ally of Mishkin's for political reasons and this coincidentally bit Ourumov in the ass. It's obvious that Ourumov and Mishkin have never liked each other. That's my two cents anyway.

[@RoundenBrown]

The music is "March of the Life Guards Regiment".

[@movieswithmatticus5469]

omg you're my hero. thanks

[@jsXanatos]

its more accurately titled Preobrajensky March

[@nicholasramsey5331]

The Priceless Beauty and Charm of St Petersburg! The fact that it gets So Cold and Snowy in the Winter there only adds to its Beauty and Charm! Found it So Depressing how James Bond had to run a tank through and ruin half of the City!

[@Makalon102]

1:34 best part

[@jyotirmayamohanty5723]

Ironically, Gottfried John (Ourumov) was born in Baltic area and barely escaped the Soviet armies during 1945 while still an infant.

[@italktowalls5094]

According to wiki he was born in Berlin, 1942

[@rachel-uj4xf]

loved it when his faced just dropped lol

[@Warman88888888]

RIP General!

[@judau89]

Mishikin for president of Russia!

[@aleksandarvil5718]

Spoiler: *Murdered by Ouromov*

[@RobertKincaid-vq3hn]

also note in this scene a certain Michael wilson who like Alfred Hitchcock now does cameos

[@ThomasWilliams89]

I'm pissed off that the music at 1:34 onwards isn't anywhere on the soundtrack. Sounds so cool.

[@zaghibatistuzzo6425]

RoundenBrown: The music is ''March of the Life Guards Regiment''

[@jsXanatos]

Preobrajensky March

[@georgedoolittle9616]

"that will be all..

[@ThomasWilliams89]

@@georgedoolittle9616 I will investigate immediately, Defence Minister!

[@dereksimms8725]

Jesus this speaks so much truth going on now with Russia/Ukraine

[@drtoonie]

I didn’t know this film was available as stop motion!

[@josephmullin5845]

This scene has a timeliess look to it

[@cristian333GTX]

Love the intro in this scene, showing us Russia history I really admírate Russian people and his culture and U.K. from a Mexican.

[@nrswy18]

mishkin for life!!!

[@randomdude32]

You're the kind of guy that even if they went for full realism and spoke Russian and put English subtitles, you'd complain.

[@Jampolo_OG]

That is the face of someone who knows they fucked up

[@mariozavalaaldana88]

This kind of scenes with such a credible and realistic exchange in acting gives a plus to a film like this one, perhaps the last one that kept a sense of realism from the rest of Bond franchise. Don't get me wrong , I liked Casino Royale , and even Skyfall , but it's not the same.

[@JinrohDFLL]

i like how the Russians have their meeting speaking english.

[@scottknode898]

JinrohDFLL its a movie and the actors Gottfried John (Ournmov) and Tcheky Karyo (Mishkin) were German and French actors

[@BlueEyes-ii4zz]

Russian actors arnt going to want to partake in a Western film especially if it portrays their nation as antagonistic, look at all the Bond films from the Cold War Era the Russian characters many of whom portrayed by western Europeans. Steve Berkhoff a Brit portrayed Soviet general Orlov, Walter Gotell a German portrayed Alexis Gogol, Jerone Krabbe a Dutchman portrayed Giorgi Koskov, John Rhys-Davies a Scotsman portrayed Leonid Pushkin none of whom are of Russian or Slavic heritage and likely spoke almost No Russian at all. Russians actors also during the Cold War were inaccessible to western film makers, also their government wouldn't allow them to participate again if it portrays them as antagonistic. Also in the movie Red Heat Arnold Schwarzenegger, an Austrian born portrayed a Russian police officer he also spoke not a word of Russian prior to filming and still spoke in his Austrian accent.

[@AndrewChapman]

Love how they're all speaking English when they're all Russians with no English characters in this scene. And also love Michael G. Wilson's cameo at 1:04 too (one of his many cameos throughout the Bond film series).

[@CynicalBastard511]

+Andrew Chapman Non English speaking characters speaking in English with other non speaking English characters is the biggest problem I have with this film and other Bond films as well such as From Russia with Love, for example. It's the sort of thing you'd see in a straight to video budget film, not in a high budget block buster like a Bond film, which I'm sure the producers could afford Russian teachers for the cast.

[@ThomasWilliams89]

the vast majority of Hollywood films do the same. Valkyrie is the worst, they didn't even put on an accent lol.

[@ricardocantoral7672]

Thomas Williams Ditto Hammer Films. Most of their best films were often set in Eastern European countries and yet everyone would speak with an English accent !

[@scottknode898]

Andrew Chapman Gottfried John was German actor using a Russian accent but probably couldn’t speak the language. Tcheky Karyo who played Mishkin was born and raised in Turkey even other characters Boris, Natalya, Valentin and Xenia are all played non Russian actors trying to use accents

[@lordshaodeus1021]

Unfortunately Hollywood productions tend to be lowest denominator crap in which they assume the audience is too stupid to read subtitles

[@DubNation-Nba_champs]

he reminds me of richtophen from call of duty zombies...

[@novemberalpha6023]

Mishkin didn't die. He just changed his name and came back to haunt the next 007s as Pale King.

[@LexingtonWells]

Dang. Orumov got OWNED in that scene. I'm guessing Mishkin had an ax to grind with him for some political reason and didn't like that he was on his way up (if I'm not mistaken, Orumov was gaining so much brownie points at that time, he was being pegged to become part of the Politburo)..EDIT, wait what am I saying... wasn't this post-USSR at this point?

[@jeffkardosjr.3825]

When this movie was made Russia's history was very uncertain. Russia still had a Soviet based govt. that was just overthrown in late 1993 when the movie was being made.

[@scottknode898]

LexingtonWells he knew General Ourmov was corrupt and not knowing the whereabouts of his own people sealed the deal for Mishkin that he didn’t trust Ourmov

[@stefanbernhard2710]

The two were at odds. Oromov was intentionally late, and his b.s. conclusion was contrived. He knew that everyone knew he was full of it. Shines a light on the beurocracy of that time.

[@Detdoncarter]

Would’ve loved to have Mishkin as an ally in other bond movies

[@kuribayashi84]

They kinda missed the chance of having John Rys Davies reprising his role as Pushkin from "The Living Daylights"

[@jeffkardosjr.3825]

Shame they coudn't have Gogol in what became the Pushkin role like originially intended.

[@scottknode898]

Jeff Kardos Jr. the actor who played General Gogol Walter Gotell retired from acting in the 1990s and passed away in 1997 from cancer. Many of original actors Connery, Moore and Dalton eras retired after Moore retired and Dalton left the role. Also the original M actors Bernard lee and Robert Brown have passed away along with Lois Maxwell the original Moneypenny and Desmond Llewyn Q. Many of them retired from their roles due to age except for Bernard Lee who died of cancer before he could film For Your Eyes Only.

[@jeffkardosjr.3825]

I was referring to that the Pushkin charecter wasnt supposed to exist at all. MI6 was supposed to be under the impression that Gogol went bad. But due to some insurance or health issue Gotell couldnt have more than a cameo.

[@Pzyko_Ninja]

its the preobrazhensky march

[@FV4030]

@BrendanIsCool Thank you so much!

[@balazskishalmi7450]

Good movie😃

[@dejacreacts4964]

1:36 it was at this moment Ourumov knew he fucked up

[@CountArtha]

He has a bad poker face for a Bond villain.

[@michaelpavila1988]

my favorite goldeneye characters are q,irina,caroline,james bond,natalya simonova,boris grishenko,xenia onattop,general ourumov and alec trevelyan.as for m,miss moneypenny,valentin zukovsky,defense minister dmitri mishkin,bill tanner,jack wade,anna and the admiral chuck farrell i really don't know about.

[@thomasstorgaard9750]

Great movie! Whatis the name of the march music?

[@RedCerberus010]

Preobrazhensky March. March of the army of Peter the First

[@Batou3]

How did they make him general after that debacle bond caused?

[@hansumjoe]

At the facility he was Col Uromov…72 hours later Mishkin calls him General …did he get a promotion in 72 hours??

[@RedFenril]

He was promoted to General nine years after the events at Arkhangelsk. He was actually court-martialed for those events but the charges were dropped after he embellished the cause of the explosion, one the Soviet Command staff accepted.

[@BiscuitHead22]

Fox investigating the chicken coop.

[@mushroomhead3619]

Mishkin: How dare you start this interrogation without out me!! Ouromov: Fuck you! I'm a double agent! I'll kill you and then tell the guards Mr Bond did it.

[@HeyGuy4321]

When I was 7 I thought it was OURomOV. And Deh-POT. ARR-CHIVZ. and other weird pronunciations

[@Gareth-410]

Thank you for bringing this to my attention.

[@GrayFoxROU]

Name of the march from the begining

[@FV4030]

Anybody know what the name of the music is that the band is playing??

[@Agent1W]

@nrswy18 He's got the perfect poker face...

[@stefanbernhard2710]

Mishkin shouldn't have mentioned Natalya

[@italktowalls5094]

" I will investigateimmediatelyherrdefenceminister"

[@nrswy18]

@Agent1W damn right!!! it shouldve been his face on the game cover instead of bond's

[@repubblesmcglonky8990]

This movie completely neglected the fact that Natalya was supposedly shot in the Ventilation shafts in Severnaya, so why does Ouromov sound so surprised? I mean, who in the heck is going to look in a Ventilation Shaft for a Corpse? :/

[@davemacneiliorfc1]

He is surprised because her body was not among the dead, as was said by Defence Minister Dmitri Mishkin. Ouromov believes that the only survivor was Boris.

[@jamesbowden4871]

To me, Muskin sounds French, and Ouvromov sounds German. Neither sounds Russian.

[@josephmullin5845]

German and French actors

[@ExploitedYouth87]

If Hollywood has taught me anything it's that EVERYONE speaks English even if it's unnecessary.

[@Geomanb]

1:16

[@Magpie_Mark92]

I liked mishkin but hated orimov

[@scottknode898]

It is reasonable as Ournmov was one of the bad guys in Goldeneye working for Alec Trevelyn and his Janus Crime Organization, he was not supposed be a likable character.

[@samrowland5208]

I love that they decided to include the British Grenadiers Marching song

[@EAcapuccino]

Lol the USSR only collapsed 4 years prior to this film, amazing Hollywood was allowed to film there in Russia(?) let alone depicting Russians as ultimate bad guys not to be crossed - classic Hollywood still at it then an still going on 😂😂

[@RedCerberus010]

I don't think that Russians were shown as fully bad guys. Like Mishkin

[@도영민-w4c]

Lindsay Lohan father has in Russia

[@drastgreyhreadfshtgf9917]

Called OUT

[@도영민-w4c]

Lindsay Lohan's father and Gen.Wilhelm Keitel

[@Luka23567]

😂

[@Perich29]

I blame Ourumov for attacking Ukraine.

[@ricardocantoral7672]

Ourumov was better than Trevelyan. The former projected an authority and menace that Alec didn't have.

[@user-mistereye]

Ricardo Cantoral I agree, I've always thought Ourumov should have been the main villain

[@IamFreeRu]

Ricardo Cantoral They both fit into their roles perfectly. Goldeneye was the best Bond film made.

[@bambinodeskaralhes]

I disagree. Travelyan is great !!!

[@scottknode898]

Ricardo Cantoral Trevelyn was a good main villain and it was a good surprise and twist having Alec go from 00 and close friend of James Bond to head of a Russian Criminal Organization. Originally Alec was supposed to be a older character in original script as before Sean Bean took the role, Anthony Hopkins, Alan Rickman, Jeremy Irons were all considered and offered the role and each actor turned down the role. Irons turned it down as he was busy filming Die Hard 3 and played the main villain Simon, Alan Rickman turned it down as he was growing tired of playing villains and was busy doing stage appearances. Timothy Dalton was slated to star in Goldeneye but he resigned in 1994 so minor changes were made to script including making Alec a younger character but left the darker tone to avoid any more production delays as was written to fit Daltons darker tone in his movies.

[@Gareth-410]

@@scottknode898 One of my only complaints about GoldenEye is that the characters are too young for their backstories. Alec was meant to have been a young boy during the war which would put his character at just over 50 in 1995 but Sean Bean was only in his mid thirties during filming.

[@jameslongstreet9259]

Siberian separatists, well that could actually be a nice thing today in 2023

[@RedCerberus010]

They were in 90s. But I never heard of thmilumilitary diversions.

[@도영민-w4c]

Wilhelm Keitel meet Lindsay Lohan's father

[@Amar7605]

Not to mention you have a French actor speaking English with a poorly-done Russian accent.

[@scottknode898]

Amar7605 Tcheky Karyo who played Mishkin is Turkish actor he was born in Turkey although he did grow up in France and developed a French accent after living there for years

[@scottknode898]

Amar7605 Gottfried John was a German actor playing a Russian General. None of the central actors are Russian although they are playing Russians like Alec Trevelyn played by Sean Bean is English, Alan Cumming and Robbie Coltrane are Scottish, Izabella Scorupco is Swedish and Famke Janssen is Dutch

[@k125catu5]

In European Countries it is common to step down in position of power when there is corruption or anomaly activities. Damn unlike here on our country, any issues there still on their post. 🥱