GOLIATH - Where is KITT's Evil Nemesis Today? Uncovering some info on Knight Rider's Baddest Vehicle

[@andyl2221]

Missing door jamb rubber is on both because that is how it latches . And thank you so much for making these videos for us to watch. They bring back good childhood memories.

[@RagdollRacingInc]

Yes

[@54raceman]

Yep even on doors that don’t come that way alot of them end up getting cut away because the door gets slightly tweaked and the driver gets tired of fighting with it and cuts it so it latches easier

[@lightshow10]

Yea. It’s the latch. One of the comments said the latches do that on lots of the trucks. Which is true. Case in point is look the fuel area on all 2006 dodge Durango’s. They all rust out in the same exact way. The same place. And are all rusted about the same amount. The reason for this was a defective valve in the fuel filler neck. When fueling it would cause the fuel to back up and spill over the body of the truck. Over time this ate away at the paint allowing it to rust there more quickly than others. So could it be the same truck? Sure. It would only make since that it was. But is there proof. Not really. Just some food for thought.

[@judgehastheword9069]

As soon as they showed that , I was thinking the same thing.

[@davearthur514]

I was just about to post the same comment

[@modacare4546]

I drove one of these trucks in 1978. All the pete cabovers are notched out there. As others have said it is where the door latches. Look to the left of the pic and you can see the latch on the door. Lines up perfectly. One thing you don't point out that I noticed is the location of the air intake on or near the roof of the truck. In all your examples they are in a different location including some that are not visible at all because they are mounted behind the cab. Some are not roof mounted on that model of Peterbilt. That is something that varied on this model cabover depending on the engine and intake options.

[@theknightrider_ch]

if you look at the opened door you can see a metal piece (i imagine to lock the door) and this goes exactly into the place where the weather stripe goes. For me it's not a missing piece ... it was there on purpouse.

[@AaronJensen2375]

Agree. The latch goes into that "hole". The hole is production made and not a tear.

[@MotorScotti]

Agree!

[@MrTechblackdog]

Good eye. that is the door latch. i was going to comment about the door latch.

[@jaybruz.5688]

@@AaronJensen2375 iknr, i laughed hard at that.

[@lobstamanfrommars3667]

100% intentional missing section of seal for door lock. your smoking gun fires blanks

[@dakotasden4982]

At 4:45 there’s damage to the bottom edge of the cab, pretty centered inbetween wheel & diesel tank. That same dent can still be seen once repainted at 12:53 😉

[@KnightRiderHistoriansOfficial]

WOW! GREAT observation! Another "silver bullet"!

[@dakotasden4982]

@@KnightRiderHistoriansOfficial, I was absolutely certain you’d point that out!, and when you didn’t I got excited I found smth you missed 😄

[@steverpcb]

@@KnightRiderHistoriansOfficial The smoking gun that fired the silver bullet !

[@marcuscoquer5958]

Good spot! I would still check that isn't a standard oddity on the sleeper cabs but I think you are right. At 20:39 there is a panel deformation at the same point on the other side. Could be where the structure of the sleeper was attached to the shorter cab.

[@callumthomas653]

Goliath definitely got repainted no doubts about that

[@usdmsilvia]

Also not mentioned was the spot lights on boths front and back. Not many pacemakers have the spotlights even the ones with the sleeper as it looks like an option that Goliath had. Goliath was one of the reasons why i love cabeovers.

[@orgeebaharvin6284]

Goliath was so scary as a kid in the 80s!

[@Red_Lanterns_Rage]

KARR was scary, Goliath was terrifying.... Karr was like the joker, Goliath was like Bane breaking Batman's back but yeah as a kid watching it at the time goliath was massively effective lol

[@orgeebaharvin6284]

@@Red_Lanterns_Rage how did I forget K.A.R.R but you are correct!

[@robertleobecker742]

@@Red_Lanterns_Rage BUT, Bruh, u've gots 2 admit "GOLIATH" was very very BAD-ASS back in 1984. ME, personally??!! I wanna see him & "Christine" @ a car show!!!!!!!!!!!

[@marcos1555]

Fun Fact: The truck from the show you can buy the truck in GTAV and it's a beast . lol

[@shannoncombs1852]

Generally, the double sleeper cabs were used for OTR trucks which would need much larger fuel tanks than the 2 examples here with small local route tanks. Likely the same truck!

[@Luvs2Troll]

Exactly

[@VeliusCoba]

Listen, I am Knight Rider for life, I love what your channel Is doing, Im here for the long haul, Thanks for doing everything you are doing, Please don't stop! You all know what your talking about and I know you do. Im a movie prop/location freak.

[@zacm.2342]

Think that 'break' in the weather stripping is for the lock on the door - look at that point on the door in that screenshot. Agree that the lorry is probably the same used as Goliath, just don't think that's necessarily proof.

[@steverpcb]

Definatly part of the door lock and not the smoking gun :(

[@greggv8]

On the Goliath shot the weather strip hole looks smaller. It's right around the height where drivers could rub a shoulder or arm getting in and out and tear more of it off.

[@jonmyers8046]

Great detective work Joe. Columbo would be proud.

[@roflfml1]

At 15:34 if you look at the door panel there is tape marks an blue overspray along with the top of the window track and door jam is grey

[@roflfml1]

Not to mention a lot of the bolts on the handles are black not polished on the blue truck

[@jonathanstancil8544]

The truck.from "No Big Thing" is also a sleeper cab. It has a twin size bed behind the seats. Goliath is commonly referred to as a "double bunk" and it has what is basically a queen size bed behind the seats. They also usually have a little bit more cabinet and storage space at the end of the mattress and around the top of the bunk area. If the cab is cut off right behind the entry doors then there is no bunk or sleeper and it.is referred to as a day cab. Also, the small doors low on the sleeper sides are officially known as luggage compartments but referred to by drivers as the side box.

[@lornperkins4270]

100 percent true Jonathan 👍

[@chrisheffernan7540]

A truck that is 50 years old chances are it is not road worthy nor has been for a very long time. Doesnt mean it is not around. It could be rotting in someone's field, or stored in a farm barn, or even a salvage yard. It is amazing you guys found the 2nd truck and the original hauling trailer used in the show. Great Video, thanks for all you do

[@ltd4all]

That truck, being a cabover design, was likely scrapped not long after 1984, since NOBODY enjoyed driving a cabover for long hauls, and by design, they were unsafe, as well as being a PAIN to maintain and preform repairs on, since the entire cab had to be raised (often daily) to perform a trucker's daily inspection, meaning that EVERYTHING in the sleeper would end up being pushed against the dashboard that wasn't fastened down....random clothing, and personal effects (toiletries, shaving kits, etc.) would be tossed around the entire driver's area of the cab, and extremely inconvenient for a driver to have to tidy up every morning. plus, newer tractors were infinitely safer, with more of a crumple zone buffer for the driver, COE (Cab Over Engine) trucks were known for throwing drivers through the windshield, or having objects penetrate the windshield, and impaling the driver. not to mention that a 1070's spec truck would get TERRIBLE fuel mileage compared to the rigs of today. It would be incredibly rare for ANYONE to have kept a COE truck, in running order for so long, let alone having one rotting in some "random field" because it was used in a TV show....Another thing to consider, is that very few COE tractors had air conditioning, because the driving position was directly over the engine, and heat rises, so even the best A/C units couldn't keep the cab cool, especially in California's climate. COE tractors were the "Chevy Chevettes" of their time.....And you NEVER see them around anymore, and for good reason. my feeling is that the truck you're looking for is LONG GONE, and is probably a can of creamed corn by now.

[@austenalgaier1122]

All the trucks of Europe and much of the rest of the world are COE also mpg isn’t much different believe it or not. At least when comparing 4stroke DI turbodiesels to more modern 4stroke DI TD’s. But for American truckers I think you are right about the COEs. Nowadays the COEs are all over truck shows though. Here in the south at least.

[@ciddax754]

While the European Trucks are almost all COE, I guess they addressed some of the problems better then those american COE had. That being said, I seems for me very unlikely that truck survived: Big cabs are typical used by long haulers and those folks have a big priority on gas milage. Then you have the issue getting parts. After some years this gets problematic. You don't want to wait two weeks until a nowadays rare replacement shows up.

[@ltd4all]

@@ciddax754 European trucks are COE due to European truck overall length regulations, and the fact that many European streets are narrower, making the shorter wheelbase of the COE design more attractive, at the expense of driver safety.

[@eddiebruce2961]

I don't believe that 🐂💩

[@psdaengr911]

The pictures that you show of Goliath make it clear that it was painted with a latex paint or a primer over wax intended to be later removed with a high pressure washer. There is overspray on the tires and some got past the cab door onto its seal at the bottom.

[@greggv8]

That would explain the streak on the tank from the fill cap. Spilled diesel would dissolve wax and take the paint off with it.

[@michaelknight2721]

Very interesting. I wonder where that mechanical masher is now.That episode had me in tears when KITT got hit with that thing.And Garthe was a complete madman.The truck in Mouth of The Snake is more than likley Goliath , I think.

[@fan1701]

Goliath is out there waiting for a chance to mash Kitt again. I'll never forget that impact. I was crushed. 😁

[@banshee6k]

So was K.I.T.T.

[@justinmcclanahan6036]

​@banshee6k do you remember the episode where Kitt gets a nice acid bath

[@Jdigger4130]

That’s a 110” double bunk n to have virtually the same specs as the baby blue implies they’re one n the same or a pair from a fleet. Dual exhaust n air cleaner in cab… pretty rare

[@knightnorma08]

Damn it Joe... I really thought you was playing us all and you found Goliath... DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN

[@davidbeers5949]

The Evel Knievel truck is in the Evel Knievel Museum. It was owned by Evel himself.

[@dantresohlavy7323]

I thought his name was spelled "E v e l"

[@davidbeers5949]

@@dantresohlavy7323 you are correct I stand corrected.

[@philsmith6768]

Wow 35 years and I never realised it was Goliath in Mouth Of The Snake. Watching the evidence unfold then was actually open mouthed. Love these videos. Makes my week watching these!!!

[@mikemuzzell5167]

Actually the browning on the fuel tank is from sloshing in the tank and that’s not worn paint it’s fuel with dust adhered to the fuel.

[@JeffLMisc]

the biggest problem with peterbilt tanks is the o-rings in the tanks. They probably didn't know about changing them. I know i have changed a lot over the years.

[@TheBananaStrangler]

Exactly what I was thinking as soon as he mentioned it in the video. It’s pretty obvious when you look at all the dust/dirt on the rest of the truck and you take into account that those tanks were prone to having minor gasket leaks on the tanks around the filler neck! Glad someone else pointed it out as well!

[@DavidR-ub2dp]

Joe this was beyond epic and I feel with your knowledge of knight rider and with your sharp detective work im sure you will have the determination to find Goliath

[@aaronwalker8847]

"You giant come to me in rage, with javeline, sword and shield . - And I -15 year old David , with a sling shot and a rock , come to you giant - in the mighty name of el ohim!" AND THEN LIL DAVID SLAYED THAT GIANT

[@chevyman1722]

That’s pretty cool even though I was in college when Knight Rider came out.. I enjoyed watching the episodes and I had forgot there was a Peter-built in a couple episodes called Goliath…the only evil car on the show I had remembered until I watched this video was K.A.R.R. Which was a exact replica of K.I.T.T. So thanks a ton for bringing those great memories up…could be I forgot because my dementia is getting worse…

[@johnclements9968]

I think that it's entirely possible that the Peterbilt used as Goliath, being a rental unit, and the close proximity to Goliath Returns meant that Universal kept the truck and it would make sense that it was the truck -repainted - in Mouth of the Snake.. can't just be coincidence to have the black flecks of paint on the chrome mirror and interior details. Another cool and fascinating video Joe!! 😎👌

[@marka.graffakasnakebitenat3736]

It could be the truck used in the TV show, BJ and the Bear.

[@davidgeorge1294]

Bj and the bear was a Kenworth aerodyne.

[@SonnyGTA]

I remember watching this TV movie…and being GLUED to the TV! I have it in my box set. I need to watch it again! GREAT CHANNEL!!!

[@botbobchannel]

I wish they can Bring back overcabs again they look so nice

[@ungabungaable]

the 352's was a common OTR truck back then, not as rare as one would think, there were cheap, and that was back during the first 70's fuel crisis, probably had a 3406a or b, Or a Detroit series 71 or 92 V-8 in it with a turbo kit or a super charger which was more common, as lastly a little 350 Cummins in them they also had a 9, 10, 13, or 15 speed transmission in them depending on what they were going to haul. they were also same as the K100's cept a few details such as the grill and interiors... seeing Paccar owned both Pete and Kenworth at that time. the paint used looks like was washable paint, which was common for the studios back then cause they cause wash the paint off with a pressure washer on rentals, the interiors was all the was all the same on them petes, same doors was used on all their trucks and that spot you say the rubber missing is where the door latches to the truck to the body lol. so with that evidence i would think that those 2 trucks are not the same unless they modified the air intake for goliath and changed it back when it became a blue truck. the air intakes are in different places on your photos for the 2 different trucks which the one with the chrome roof had a cat, the other one had a V8 Detroit ya can look at the air intake and know what's in them. So with that, person you shoulda talk to about that particular truck would be George Sack Sr if he is still alive, he used to buy allot of them old movie rental trucks at the auctions and use them for picture trucks in movies in the 80's and he had allot of 50's - 60's trucks just laying around his lot in aqua dulce. I used be a driver back then, and have driven many of these 352's and K100's, they was go to trucks for us bed buggers.

[@michaelgoodwin7204]

Hi after seeing this I noticed that Goliath was also in Dukes of Hazard , Waylon Jennings was driving the rig in an episode.

[@GérannGerberChannel]

Thank you (Joe & AJ) KR Historians for another great video, we all are looking forward to the next episode!!

[@anakkawindwalker7413]

Goliath was a 1979 peterbilt 352 pacemaker. I know my dad used to drive one that looked just like it Goliath but his was light green body and dark green stripes .only my father's didn't have the big grill but he did add a heavy bumper he called a cattle removal. Lol driving at night most times u don't see cattle at night

[@The07gt]

Joe, first. Another great video! Love how the attention to detail you guys have from show to show and scene to scene. Two other things I noticed with the door being open from the still of The Mouth of the Snake is that when the character David is sitting in the drivers seat. You can see gray paint by his left foot at the lower bottom of the door. Also on the dash by the gear shifter you can see all the color matching switches that Garth was operating in the close up shots of him starting up the truck. I love these videos! Being a Knight Rider fan my whole life, I’ve been looking forward to all these behind the scenes pictures and video of one of my favorite shows! Thank you, thank you! Please keep up the fantastic job!👍

[@KnightRiderHistoriansOfficial]

Thanks so much!

[@ryanpoulin5144]

Sweet rig! It looks great in "Mouth of The Snake". I'm interested and curious about the colors on and in this Cab-over Pete. What kind of Blue was the cab, a Light or Sky Blue? And what Blue was the dark colored stripe? And the Steering wheel was Tan? I always thought t was White. If it is a Tan color, is it a Dark or Light Tan? I'm just curious as a classic truck enthusiast. Please, Thank you and sorry for being a pain in the nose.

[@vistalite-ph4zw]

Great video and history lesson. I seriously think you're on to something. Unfortunately this truck could be scrapped but then again it can be fully restored and working or a show truck. Some truckers really love cabovers. However I would not give up, BJ and the Bear original truck and trailer were found on separate farms in the midwest and south. The 2 were united and completely restored.

[@kamranetemad4968]

Thank you for this presintation.all I going to say is based on your research on this truck,if I find this tractor or the tlr for that matter before you do,I donated to you for safe keeping and other knight rider fans to enjoy.love this channal and fact finding content.

[@RacerRickxx]

The spotlight above the drivers door is also the same, and it was not a common option. Most don't have it. I would say its probably the same truck.

[@braysfinds7479]

7:27 Ironic that 8 years later Peterbilt did a 180 and made a custom 378 as the antagonist for Pet Semetary. Movie trucks rock in general!

[@DocOrtmeyer]

Well, garthe knight was a terrorist so...

[@captainmorgan1107]

Definitely not a 1973. The 110" double bunk 352 debuted in 1974 and was built until 1981 when it was replaced by the 362. Also, the door handles were moved to the bottom of the doors like this one in 1977. I hope you can find this truck someday.

[@Gonner453]

I am planning to believe that it was probably anywhere from 77 to probably an 83. The thing is that I need to remember, that commercial trucks at one point barely changed their designs from year to year kind of like how Dodge was the same design up until they switched their design.

[@TooManyHobbiesJeremy]

Good job on the detective work! I enjoyed the details on the extra large sleeper.

[@mintyman1968]

That evil kenievel one was a 352h. Different style from the 352 pacemaker so that isn’t the same.

[@BacklotRiders]

Man I’d love to see you guys find that Goliath semi. Seems like an exciting project!

[@petermclachlan-wortley3339]

Superb video Joe,yes no doubt it's the same tractor..well done again...oh and have the trailer in my cellar and i want $20 billion for it....🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@floridarossi9111]

That is the way the rubber is for the lock latch setup on all of these trucks

[@mintyman1968]

In mouth of the snake… it’s missing the front emblem on the rad cap cover. Same with Goliath. And it’s the same long sleeper! I believe that might be Goliath. Plus the same steering wheel, mirror chipping, and the door jambs are black just like the one in Goliath. 352 pacemakers did in fact come with different interior colors. With that chip, it’s definitely the same truck.

[@Samuel-gc6js]

Time stamp please?

[@mintyman1968]

@@Samuel-gc6js for which one?

[@jamesthompson8008]

Remember though, then as now, there's a range of options for interiors & those shown here were common. Interior on both would've been for run of the mill road tractors, they made thousands of them.

[@knightwalkr]

The truck had like 3 different color schemes and I think 4 seats. Black with wood grain was an extremely common type

[@xxhabu]

The rubber missing on the door lines up with where an arm would rub when getting out. Left hand reach to handle and then pivot out. Likely every one out there looks like that over time.

[@davidgeorge1294]

Single sleeper or double sleeper. It like a single bed or single sleeper for 1 driver or a queen bed for 2 people to sleep. It works like this. 1 driver drives when there done they sleep. If it's a team driver one drives the other sleeps or tries to. The purpose of the double sleeper, that's the wider cab with the queen sized bed is for those times when your waiting for a load both can sleep or if you have a passenger with you. The double sleeper was a luxury and typically not bought by fleets. It was bought by an owner operator someone who owns and drives the truck. Hope that helps non truckers understand the difference better.

[@JeffLMisc]

all those pete cabovers were single bed. the small ones had a single, and the larger ones had a queen. Drove one years ago, and i destinctly remember having to lay down to put my pants on in the morning. They weren't fun :)

[@paulmccourt6185]

The paint coming off the fuel tank is first sign that it's not permanently repainted in the grey

[@fryloc359]

I don't think it's paint coming off, I think it's dirt clinging to a fuel spill. They did a lot of filming in the desert after all.

[@raywilson800]

That big cab is 110" with a full size mattress (58 3/4 x 79 3/4). Those smaller sleepers are 86" cab with a twin size mattress (39 3/4 x 79 3/4)

[@MolecularShadowFox]

Great research. Would be nice to see Goliath parked up next to the Pete 281 from Duel. On a side note, do you know what happened to that extended trailer with that electronic lock on the rear doors?

[@guskuratlejr232]

It's actually a Pete 351 twin screw I have a 281 1959 single axle pete

[@teamidris]

I’m with the masses on the door rubber, but the mirror looks like the evidence for me. I’ve had a quick look and it doesn’t appear to be a standard part, so that and the black bits left say yes :o)

[@essbe7158]

Saying you don't have it is exactly what we expect would be said if you have it...KIDDING. Thanks for this update, and when it comes to Knight Rider, there is no such thing as rambling. It's all great detail. Thanks for the video.

[@ricardoortiz-wn6ff]

In grand theft auto video game u can buy both KITT AND GOLIATH 😁👍👍👍

[@pdennis93]

Yup. I have my mobile operations center set up as goliath.

[@pdennis93]

@@derstrohmann7450 yup. I was really hoping you could put the ruiner 2000 in the back of the MOC. Rockstar really missed an opportunity there.

[@wizpin]

In a video game called grand theft auto you shouldn't buy a car 😂😎

[@pdennis93]

@@wizpin true LOL

[@26.2MilesOutsidePartsUnknown]

Which gta is this?

[@Pesar25]

Great video's bro, keep them coming. Thanks for your efforts.

[@richardkrenek985]

The first exact match I saw was a chip in the wood grain part of the door to the left and slightly high of center of the window crank. Both trucks are the same truck. Good job editing. Great analysis.

[@happydays8171]

Other things I noticed, Goliath has an extra air tank, 2 below the battery box and one between battery box and fuel tank. That 3rd air tank has a valve on top which makes me think it was added on for some reason. Also Goliath looks like it has 3" diameter exhaust stacks, that means it had a Detroit engine in it, Cummins or Caterpillar had 4" stacks. Goliath with the grill grates, the grates would have had to be removed to raise the cab to do any work on the engine. Also, Detroit engines were extremely unreliable back then. Either you had one that ran well or you didn't, so once they started breaking down, they soon were scrapped. If I could watch a scene with Goliath, I could tell you immediately which engine it had, Cats made a lot of knocking noises as they accelerated, as did Cummins, but Detroits idled at a higher rpm and whined to higher rpms, getting about 4 mpg which made them operable when fuel was cheap and fuel had taken a spike in 1983 which was probably why Goliath was retired from road duty to acting/prop duties. Detroits, specifically the series 71, were scrapped as they were 2 strokes (green in color, Cummins were beige, Cats yellow) and pollution non compliant, especially in CA. Hope this helps in identifying it. If someone claims to have Goliath, and it has a Cummins or Cat in it, it's probably not the original.

[@asasial1977]

The grill looks like they welded a bolt bin to the front

[@johnniforos]

Hi guys hopefully someone will comment and agree.... early 70's Peterbilt handles were closer to the window... also mostly early 70s Peterbilts had a straight assistant bar. Most of the late 70s truck had the curved assistants bar. That also brought about the handle being mounted lower on the door.. just what i know.. BTW this is 100% the truck passenger skirt between wheel and fuel tank theres a fold like a 2x4 was used against the truck repainted version has the same crease thats the truck.... run its plate if its real....

[@danielbabcock2822]

You are correct. Peterbilt did not lower the door handles and add the longer grab handles until the late 70's I think the one you showed is a 77 and not a 73. Goliath is what they called a double bunk. I have a 1974 352 and my Dad was a Peterbilt salesman for 42 years. thanks for the video. Grew up watching the show and loved Goliath.

[@simonlewis5511]

Hi Joe I'm not sure if that split in the weather seal is anything at all. Check out where the lock of the door is. The latch. It's goes in that space. It's not like it was "cut" and faulty. It's just a gap in the seal where the fitting goes. I bet if you look at any other trucks from Peter Bilt, even the shorter ones, they will all have that design to them. That said, hell of a coincidence to have two trucks of that rarer kind, with the same interiors. Let's hope the rental company get in touch, or someone knows. of them from back then. Cheers.

[@jamesthompson8008]

Agree, gap visible is part of door frame design. Good eye!

[@makpsv]

I was going to say the same, it looks like the design for the lock, in one of the pictures you can see that there is a hole in the cabin for the lock to latch on, or at least it looks like it.

[@Timberwolf69]

Stopped the vid to come down here, looking if someone else noticed that.

[@simonlewis5511]

@@Timberwolf69 Yep - it's just part of the design. I wish it were unique... but I really don't think it is. Be good to see similar cabins, with their doors open to compare.

[@knightwalkr]

That interior is the common interior. They used pretty much that same interior color scheme all the way up into the 80s the wood grain stickers and such. My dad had a 79 and 80 KW both had that wood grain sticker.

[@twiztid1fiddy]

@18:37 zoom in and it’s specs of paint on the mirror and over spray on the rubber trim for the windshield.

[@adamtereska8734]

I'm wondering if the truck was filmed in Mouth of the Snake prior to the Goliath shows, because there is overspray on the indicator light as well as all the blacked out trim. I firmly believe it is the same truck.

[@jamesthompson8008]

There is production logic there however: when looking at passenger side shot of the truck in blue, notice the ENTIRE chassis is black. Fuel tanks & all. Side shots of it in gray show the fuel tanks where natural aluminum immediately under the gray (over spray at ends & wash at fuel fill). Blue one has aluminum tube type wheels, gray has 2-hole Budd (tubeless) steel wheels. Those wheels where an expensive change then as now. The thing I wonder about is the spotlights above the doors, unsure if it was an option on all trucks.

[@albertolunghi4947]

Excellent, superb, well done (quote)! I was nine in 1984, when I first saw "Mouth of the Snake", and my first thought when I had seen the truck was: "Hey, that's Goliath repainted!" Ok, it was just the idea of a child, but had anyone here got the same thought of mine when he or she first watched "Mouth of the snake"? Second idea: no way to relate Goliath to any of the trucks seen in "Ten wheel trouble"? Anyway, poor truck: from two of the greatest episodes ever, to one of the worst! 😅😅😅 Oh, there's another thing the two trucks shared, if I'm not wrong: the "Rocket launcher" button, which will be reused also in "Buyout" which shared the missile launching scene with "Mouth of the snake". Ok, that's a little complicated... 😅😅😅😅

[@Nothing-qq4hd]

It's true you guys are good at keeping things under wraps .... Let us see it already!

[@davenacinovich2493]

The spotlights on the front corners of each side of the cab and one on the top toward the rear are a give away as well.

[@chrismccurdy2448]

The spotlights are still quite common even today - they are used slot for spotlighting the trailer while blind backing. Unfortunately not going to be that uncommon.

[@charger19691]

Awesome detective work. If there really is a Knight Rider movie coming sometime in the next century, I hope you guys have something to do with it, because you all deserve to be a part of it. Your dedication to this show is amazing!

[@MrStanwyck]

Awesome video Joe…. That’s some Cracker Jack detective work you did. I hope Goliath does show up someday. I’m still keeping my fingers and toes crossed that you will find the FLAG trailer. That would be a heck of a project to recreate the inside of the trailer like it was on set. As always, keep up the great job y’all are doing to keep the history of Knight Rider alive….

[@BloxyDoesStuff1]

They did

[@filipohman7277]

Awesome Work Man Thanks 👍😀 Greetings from Helsinki, Finland 🇫🇮🇺🇸

[@BamaBoy_Davis]

Man the '80's what a great era I had the Knight Rider toy car so many memories

[@olysean92]

A cab without a sleeper is called a "day cab."That Pacemaker would be interesting to see up close. Thank you for putting this together 🙏

[@sbcinema]

Could it be this one in the Movie "HOT ROD HORROR: HAUNTED JUNKYARD" the color and age should match, but I'm not sure about the model You can see him standing in a junkyard at minute 36:30

[@emeraldknight5522]

It stands to reason that after the show was over, Goliath would've undergone a transformation from the Goliath truck back to a standard Peterbilt truck. It stands to reason that Universal Studios would've had to remove all the exterior features of Goliath and have it returned to the rental agency. The truck itself probably had to be repainted and repurposed into a standard hauler instead. Much as they did with the Bell 222b that became the famous jet chopper known as Airwolf.

[@MarkSDD]

If you look at 14:49 there's a bit at the top of the door frame where the black paint is missing, and it shows a line of the original blue paint. At 14:55 and 17:04 you can see the exact same line on the blue truck. Also, on the right side of the truck at the part where the original single cab would've ended, you can see the same small dent on the bottom edge of the cab on both Goliath and the blue truck.

[@MoonjumperReviews]

As Goliath goes careening off the cliff and splashes spectacularly into the ocean below, the director whoops in triumph, “Cut! Wow! Fantastic! That was beautiful! Well done everybody!” The entire crew is applauding and cheering, all except for the line producer. The director notices he is nervously wringing his hands and gritting his teeth. “What’s wrong? That looked incredible.” “It was a rental. Guess I should’ve sprung for the insurance.”

[@charlieboyok]

I think this was a model truck & boxed trailer , does not make any sense to use a full blown Truck or Trailer the budget can't be that generous.

[@MoonjumperReviews]

@@charlieboyok - I know it was a model. That was the point of the joke. ;-)

[@charlieboyok]

@@MoonjumperReviews Well matey boy , was not thinking like that , only thinking of a cheaper option as in logical thinking & that is it .ps l don't get YOUR joke 😒

[@DodgeChargerRT1971]

These videos fascinate me because I do the same research with the movie Vanishing Point and I was a big fan of Knight Rider back in the day.

[@earlputnal9124]

Oh man. Y'all are taking me back a few years of my trucking history. There we're actually three different tractors used in the Goliath representations in the TV series. Because of mechanical issues with the shooting of the TV series. But the tractors are pretty much the same configurations though.

[@KnightRiderHistoriansOfficial]

How do you know this? Were you involved with the production?

[@philtallant2338]

I know they used 2 in an episode and a spare as 1 was the stunt with a different wiper

[@nicholasholden8139]

how do you know that

[@earlputnal9124]

@@nicholasholden8139 Because I used to live close to Hollywood CA. And I knew people who worked on the set of Knight Rider at the time they were filming the TV show. And some of the drivers who were their stunt drivers also.

[@nicholasholden8139]

@@earlputnal9124 ok that sounds reasonable.

[@krishuffaker4517]

I would love at least, to make a replica of Goliath. Just knowing some details helps in figuring out maybe how to do it. Would be very cool.

[@edwardlambert3246]

Thank you for this informative video on this truck. I still to this day wonder if it exists somewhere? I really hope that you can find out about its whereabouts, or fate someday. Great work as always! "One man can make a difference".

[@RiderRated18]

Always a fascinating listen Joe, keep up the great work 👍

[@TheF1shh]

The interior was basically all the same from the factory, but what tells the tale is the color of the door jambs. It's the same truck. Not the weather stripping but the dark color in the door jamb paint.

[@philtallant2338]

Their was a 2 different ones in the Adriannne margot episode i noticed the wiper was on the left screen over to the corner and the other truck which had the Wipers like in the prison break

[@CoalChrome]

i'm gonna say that wherever the truck is now, the grate and bumper are long gone and the screw holes are likely full of bondo. If you want to find the truck, the things you are going to look for are 1: a Big Bunk 352 with twin stacks that are flat top stacks with no rain caps (this could have been changed but likely is still the same as it was) 2: very small fuel tanks, seeing a big sleeper truck with tanks that small is very odd so not many will have it. 3: the cab roof mounted air conditioner, between the horns you can see it sticking up some behind the clearance lights. (as far as i know this was optional) 4: the single mirrors on either side, often times these trucks had double or triple mirror options, Goliath doesn't (you can tell the difference because these set ups have small round mirrors mounted above/below the main rectangular one) 5: that driver's side spot light (and the ones on the back), as far as i know that's another option 6: the drivers door having that rectangular patch in it, most 352s didn't have those to my knowledge and i also don't know what it's purpose is side note, looking at 12:18, i believe that is Goliath as the stacks appear to still be painted black and it has the spotlights, as well as the roof mounted a/c unit AND, the clearance lights appear to be fogged in the same way they were on Goliath, and it has the short tanks on it. that is the same truck i have no doubt (nevermind on the black stacks) it's not hard to change the appearance of a truck when you have a lot of money, and it's really easy to repaint what's basically a brick. also, no not all 352s had the same interior, these trucks were almost completely customizable back then

[@oregonfordguy9812]

40$ says mouth of the snake truck is the same truck repurchased. do we know where it is though??

[@davidr4332]

Very interesting channel you have here man , keep it up.

[@KnightRiderHistoriansOfficial]

Thank you!!

[@necrotoaster94]

The speculation for this kind of thing is so delicious. 😁

[@robchamberlin4900]

Actually the original Goliath is a White Freightliner and not a Peterbilt. You can see the emblem when Garthe refers to him as my large friend in the first Goliath episode.

[@KnightRiderHistoriansOfficial]

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[@Samuel-gc6js]

1:19:43 in Goliath Returns you mean?

[@BamaBoy_Davis]

R.I.P for the cabovers my uncle drove a International but that Peterbilt Pacemaker is clean

[@Orangenkraft]

Interesting that they were allowed to mount the giant grill & bumper onto a rental

[@GreggR2020]

Actually I Pose a Question What is the probability of a Peterbuilt to be Missing its Badges in all the Same Spots? There should be an Oval that says Peterbuilt just below the front corner of both Doors as well as on Front Cab air intake just above the radiator. Second the missing rubber on the door is from the door catch lever that is how the door stays shut. 3rd if you look at the side view of both tractors passenger side, bottom edge of the Painted Body panel almost directly in the middle of the 2 side doors 5:42 and 12:34 there is an upward Dent in the Edge of both Tractors. Pretty suspect if you ask me

[@JoeManLARockinEmpire]

Awesome Informative Video Joe!👍

[@lennartorbie9593]

At 12.20 you can see the numberplate. Maybe there is a possibility to search if it still is in use.

[@KarrrRep]

I am in the UK and grew up watching Knight rider / dukes of hazard / chips and so forth.. it was awesome to see cars trucks and buses from over the pond. There are trucks from the us over here mainly wreckers. I used to work as a bus driver and one day one of our buses was being recovered to the depot and it looked funny this small service bus being picked up by a huge kenworth wrecker. I do hope you find goliath.

[@brycematthews9865]

That truck is a 77. The low door handles and the A/C evaporator give it away. A 73 would have had the door handles higher up, a taller A/C evaporator, and windows on the back of the cab. Anything 78 and later had the A/c evaporator behind the grill, and 76 and older had the high door handles.

[@KnightRiderHistoriansOfficial]

Bryce - thats fantastic! I never noticed about the door handles. You are absolutely right - it's a 77. Thank you!

[@dsingh9582]

He’s a double sleeper Pete … in simple terms he had a bigger sleeper than a regular 352 … my father had a 352

[@sgtyork9330]

110 inch cab. My 77 had that cab with a 3406-A CAT and 13 speed. Also had an aluminum frame.

[@kareemrichards8635]

Nice detective work.thanks again for sharing.

[@jtkramer100]

my neighbor was a long hauler for many years and after so many miles the rigs have to be sold. usually they do not meet the epa standards or they have a ton of miles on them. or they are an aging fleet. the company could have sold the rig or they could have retired the rig and it is sitting in a field somewhere anything is possible and you never know where it might be found.

[@danielarias9701]

Danny is. Bock

[@Warhorse500]

9:29 There appear to be some scraping marks/weld marks around those screw heads---did they grind the screws down to be flush with the metal? Or did they actually weld that front piece on to the cab? Also, the placement of the grate/medieval-looking front bumper is in line with what you were saying earlier in the video about product placement. Peterbilt would have wanted their corporate badge on the front to be covered up in some way, so as not to become associated with a "bad guy" vehicle. 16:30 or thereabouts, the comparisons between "Goliath" and "Mouth of the Snake": I can't speak for anybody else, but I'm reasonably convinced that the truck was reused. In addition to your analysis---which is solid, by the way, well done---I would point out to you the timing of the two episodes and the shiny quality of the paint on the truck during "Mouth of the Snake". You're seeing "Goliath" alright---it's "Goliath" with a fast repaint job. John Schneider, of "The Dukes of Hazzard", has recounted how the vehicle staff on that show worked at an unbelievably fast pace, salvaging Dodge Chargers after they got smashed up during filming and turning them around to be reused in later shots or later episodes. "Knight Rider" is roughly the same era of TV filmmaking; it would follow that they would use the same quick turnaround to save costs on vehicle usage. I suspect that while "Goliath" was not originally part of the Universal vehicle fleet, it was probably purposely acquired for KR and then kept around in case they needed a semi for something.

[@Rickytricky01]

Yes I agree you can see what looks like where the heat penetration has transferred over the parent material (a welding term I was lectured on while studying welding & metallurgy)

[@clydewilkins6394]

Thank you Knight Rider Historians for the awesome videos especially the Goliath videos.👍👍 On the episode Mouth Of The Snake you can clearly see the California license plate. So check the DMV to cross reference the truck location or last owner. You said I in a previous video the studio use the real license plate on the flag semi. So with that said they may did the same on Mouth Of The Snake?? And for the Flag Semi Trailer on episode where Kitt gets destroyed in Chicago in the abandoned warehouse District. Bonnie running down the side of the trailer to help Michael and Kitt. If you screen shot it at the back doors of the trailer, you can clearly see the California license plate on the right side. You may be able to track down the trailer, vin, and the last owner from the DMV. If this doesn't work in the first season of Knight Rider you can clearly see the license plate on the rear of the Flag trailer. When it's parked on the side of the road in the dirt. Hopefully this help you find Goliath and the Flag Semi Trailer. Knight Rider Super Fan!!👍👍

[@KnightRiderHistoriansOfficial]

We've already gone down that road - dead end!

[@ejwa12]

At 12:13 you have a license plate on the front of the truck. Could it be a real plate, not a production fake? Any way to cross reference the plate to get the VIN?

[@GrahamIsOnTheTube]

Great video as always Joe. I don't ever watch videos about old trucks... But you keep me hooked!

[@ebre3080]

There is a chrome thing on top of the roof what i would think is an air intake for the engine, mostly they are mounted by the exaustpipes behind the cab or beneath the cab.