Gone Girl - Renegade Cut

[@diogocosta9673]

Very interesting take. I do not completely agree that Amy's looking for the perfect relationship, though - The way I saw it she was actually one of the characters who was aware of how fake everything was and decided to consciously be part of the deception - Because she's basically a psychopath - but with the hope of trying to actually achieve something real by playing the game. This can be partially drawn from the flashbacks - Everything is romanticized, even the dialog, to the point that it feels unnatural but close to what we (the audience) and the characters are used to. Everything in her life, including her childhood, was staged. By finding out about the cheating, she brings out the real Nick and by executing her revenge plan she tells Nick about her real self. By the end, she actually succeeds in her goal, because they now about each other and are not part of the deception anymore.

[@karas7261]

Great video, but I reckon it's a wild misinterpretation of the ending - Gone Girl is a perverse romantic satire, about two people who fall apart because they're both relying on pretence alone to make it work, only to finally reveal their true selves and come to realise they make a great team, that playing to the facade is part of who they are, and what they love about each other. I feel like men tend to get hung up on the horror of Affleck's character being manipulated, and miss the part where he's a bit of a sociopath too.

[@marianotorrespico2975]

Correct.

[@andrewstephens5885]

Especially if you’ve read the book.

[@kolbhk2]

no clue how your not getting more views... this show is amazing!

[@ScarletEdge]

It was a very interesting movie. One thing I noticed once she came back. They stopped bullshitting each other. She was right that he could not settle for normal girl. He went along with it, rather easy. In a very dark way she rekindled his interest with her. She understood what he wanted and she made sure he understands what she wanted. Of course blackmail is not a way to have relationship. Or is it? Can anyone here admit that they never used emotional leverages on their partners? We sure like our idealised view on relationships. Advised by doctors, movies etc. Problem is none of that bullshit ever survives in reality.

[@msjennifer6119]

Define emotional leverage. Like 'if you love me, you'll do it'?

[@joeblaster8770]

I feel bad for the kid they're going to have.

[@CeliaTyree]

I don't.

[@bouncyshak]

I just had a thought - is she pregnant with Desi's kid now?

[@stopbeinginsecure4786]

Meh. I turned out just fine 😂

[@TheTexasDice]

I'm afraid of relationships and this movie didn't help

[@DreyriAldranaris36]

First of all, you absolutely don’t need romance to be happy. Secondly, if you build your relationship on equality and communication, it will prosper.

[@donotresuscitatetrampstamp]

god this is one of my favorite movies. i could rewatch it a billion times

[@TwistVisuals]

Awesome analysis of David Fincher films and Gone Girl. Love this movie.

[@paranoid_felix7954]

"They're not having sex in front of their children... One hopes" I love your sense of humour

[@sarahchoe7218]

I do love the point you made, that the director's movie actually do address white privileged sociopath. Something that I never have it verbally materialised but felt it as the time pass by.

[@VegimorphtheMovieBoy]

Back to the Future actually uses its product placement in an interesting and non-distracting way too: to show the passage of time and how things have changed from generation to generation. They even make a small joke with it (The Pepsi Free and Tab exchange) that is overt and subtle at the same time.

[@soulvigilante]

You know damn well Ben Affleck was cast as Nick due to his resemblance to Scott Peterson.

[@mike_sauce]

Holy shit. Well damn.

[@jenh6247]

More than that. If they were going strictly on resemblance to Scott Peterson, they would have cast Dean Cain.

[@vmvrantanen]

A masterful analysis (of a great film), once again.

[@LeeLee19901]

Because of this movie I look at the media surrounding high profile cases very differently and with a side eye

[@jean-philippedoyon9904]

David Fincher...probably the most underrated director right now...except for Alien 3 which he couln'dt do like he wanted, all is other movies like Seven or Fight Club are just so great !!

[@MrsBerry-of3lr]

You are the MASTER of movie summaries. I will forever follow you!

[@nevereverr]

The reason why Amy wants to stay with Nick is because he doesn’t try to control her, unlike every other man she’s met.

[@clarissaspeyer-stocks331]

this was an interesting take on this story. I think i have constantly seen this from a 100% feminist view because it is inspired on the true murder of Lacey Peterson. Knowing her story and being a woman myself I found myself sympathizing with amy up till the end. Yes clearly she is a sociopath but I related so much with the "cool girl" concept and within the book in general we see a much more interesting way in which the characters truly mutually destroy each other.

[@jamaroPana]

I don't know why I'm obsessed with this movie....

[@WEH1123]

I don't like happy endings as they feel dishonest. I do not like downer notes as well but can appreciate them better than pure happy endings. The endings that seem to appeal to me are bittersweet endings or ambiguous endings. What I like about bittersweet endings the most is they give you hope but they also remind you the world is moving forward, things will not be as they were and you may have to pay a steep price; another words, life is full of entropy but it keeps fighting because it's life. As for ambiguous endings remind us life will always have mysteries that may never be solved.

[@AndreiMitroiu]

Please do Synecdoche, New York. I also am curious about your opinion on The Libertine, which I deeply love. I must say you are an amazing critic, and it is a shame that your videos have low exposure. I guess you are to critics what European art films are to this art. All I can say is thank you! I have learned a lot from your reviews, and I hope you will manage to find the time to publish them more often.

[@AndreiMitroiu]

+Renegade Cut Will do as soon as I manage to find a new job. Still I am curious about what would you give the Libertine, if you saw it: thumbs up or thumbs down? I really think the reviews were too drastic, probably people expected another PotC from Johnny, and instead got a gritty drama.

[@AndreiMitroiu]

IMO, best Johnny Depp performance, and I've seen all his movies. One of the few visceral, honest ones, not just a quirky act. Anyway, can't wait to become a patron. All the best of luck and can't wait for new material!

[@kingofthegundam7974]

It seems like this entire movie could have been avoided if the couple were just more honest and open with each other from the get go rather than trying to fake their way through their relationship and marriage. Many, MANY problems could have been avoided that way,

[@LeeLee19901]

So true.

[@stopbeinginsecure4786]

There are a lot of “identity” themes in the movie, particularly in the case for Amy and the “cool girl” trope that a lot of women play. It’s basically a cautionary tale of what happens when you’re not honest with yourself and your partner.

[@Companion92]

This movie is sooo good. Great video.

[@anayeli593]

Awesome analysis.

[@SlenderManIsStupid]

Love this channel!

[@bluecollarlit]

Thank you for interesting film discussion.

[@_Odyssia_]

This was a really good interpretation of the film. It also makes me believe, as this was my interpretation of the film upon first viewing, that Amy fell in love with the idea of being the "perfect girl in a perfect marriage with a perfect man" instead of actually loving Nick. The illusion, idea and qualities of "perfect Nick" fit nicely for Amy and that's what draw her to him instead of being his honest real self. The same could be said for Nick, but at least he was never conditioned to believe and craft the illusion in the long run. And it's when Nick's infidelity, wasteful money habits and parts of himself he held back from Amy began to show, did not fit with her worldview, so she concocted a revenge story. Amy is obsessed with maintaining an image and narrative about herself and her life that she could go to dangerous criminal acts to maintain the illusion. She loves it more than she does Nick, and poor Nick has to unfortunately stay in a lie with a sociopath, because that is what she is.

[@Graciarocks]

Great analysis sir! 👍

[@vessbear5187]

Loved this movie.

[@thestrangegod3173]

Would love dat intro back tho

[@LeeLee19901]

Great analysis.👍👍

[@vieuxnez]

Interesting. I always thought fight club's Norton hated himself for having a despicable job, not that he thought he had it bad. The hating himself was the source of beating himself up.

[@DrummingOtaku]

Hey Leon! I've been thinking of requesting a review through patreon. I was wondering, would Y Tu Mama Tambien be considered too pornographic for your show? Awesome video by the way! I was really sad that Rosamund Pike didn't get more praise for her fantastic performance in this film.

[@thezionsoho]

missing that intro...

[@venaretro5444]

+Renegade Cut Please dont remind me of Frozen

[@kinnikufan]

+Vena Retro TANGLED 4 LIFE!!!

[@venaretro5444]

kinnikufan exactly

[@TheFitchproductions]

Haven't seen the film yet oops, but another great video, thanks renegade cut.

[@PheeblePhilosopher]

Thank you Sir for making that film a WHOLE LOT MORE interesting than it actually was..lol.

[@mfpope7431]

What the incest thing in the book? I remember it being brought up in the beginning but I don't remember it being talked about in regards to the news

[@vicc19]

nick's mask falls earlier, when he cheats. He dropped the ball and let Amy know his true face. Now it was Amy's turn. Then, she shows him her true colors. And they are back together: they finally know each other (so romantic! haha) and they get to pretend for everyone else ...together.

[@agreenr6915]

Just want to correct you on Panic Room "Dad's rich, Mom's pissed"

[@AutoMobileWreckSniffer]

You should do a Renegade Cut of apocalypse now and taxi driver if you have'nt already done them.

[@AutoMobileWreckSniffer]

+Renegade Cut Okay, thank you for answering the comment. Really like your videos btw.

[@AutoMobileWreckSniffer]

+Renegade Cut If I can make two other suggestions, I would love to see videos about goodfelas or the king of comedy.

[@NonApplicable1983]

Jesper Lindberg He's done both but the Apocalypse Now video is unavailable.

[@NonApplicable1983]

***** Oooh, I see. Thank you!

[@spencerc6]

Welp, I'm watching it again....

[@avgnfan066]

Does anyone know the name of the song in the background?

[@Jack-ks1qm]

Great description of real marriage, lol

[@michaelmikolowski6128]

yo you gotta do a video on jaws

[@MIGUELCARABIASCOLLAD]

Am I the only one that thinks this film is a bit of mysoginistic propaganda? The false accusation towards the husband, the police and media turning against him, the false rape accusations to the "white knight", the fact that the decission of the wife has no sense?

[@rainmirron]

Literally, the few redeemable people in this film were Margo (faithful twin sister), Detective Rhonda Boney (she didn't trust Amy's story & wanted to question her further), & Tanner Bolt (the lawyer who rightfully believed Nick). Two out of three were women. So, no it wasn't misogynistic propaganda. Even the male detective said some insensitive crap like they should burn down an old mall simply because homeless people have nowhere else to stay. Just because they made Amy a scarier villain doesn't mean Nick was a saint. He wasn't even portrayed that way in the media & in "real life". He was a cheating manipulative liar who looked down on the poor (he was quick to be suspicious of homeless people for his wife's disappearance even though nothing was taken). Although he took responsibility for his behavior by asking "what have WE done to each other", that doesn't magically make up for the pain he caused. He's both a monster & a victim of his choices. I think the movie demonstrates that pretty well.

[@troyschulz2318]

I'd have to disagree with your assertion that the Narrator's lying to himself about his disenfranchisement. I got the vibe that he's fully aware of his lifestyle, and it's that which leaves him to rebel against society through Tyler.

[@MrHootiedean]

A nice take on Gone Girl and Fincher. I didn't care for the film. I thought the story was sloppy and that it showed its hand far too soon for its excessive running time. Amy came off crazy the second she opened her mouth and especially when Pike's obvious narration started that just oozed with cotton-candied malevolence. Also the scene where Affleck goes into the house and screams her name in horror killed the mystery for me. But as you discussed in your analysis the merit in the film lies in its commentary on relationships which I found more entertaining as Amy is nucking futs and Affleck's character is ultimately too dumb to care and how a lot of couples with that dynamic carry out that madness until death does them part, hating every minute of it. And that makes me lol. Lastly, the scene early on with the dog being in two locations at once is just sloppy. Fincher is better than that. Anyway, always enjoy your reviews.

[@Wawagirl17]

"Also the scene where Affleck goes into the house and screams her name in horror killed the mystery for me." Okay, that's...a really good point. I do really like this movie, but damn, how ARE we supposed to think he might have killed her after that? I never realized how that does ruin it. Hmm.

[@OpqHMg]

Yeah i also thought this was movie was sloppy and just absurdly obvious and had no good twists. It was embarrassing to watch and Ben Affleck was just too dumb to take seriously. It was just sexist tropes showing up in the worst way masquerading as profound commentary. David Fincher Thinks he can get away with nonsense because his movies look good. The aesthetic is everything in his films sometimes. Apparently he's right because the audience fills the blanks with things he never bothered to put in there

[@piawartsback395]

this movie is sick AF in a good and bad way one would love to hate it and vice versa

[@movelea]

"everyone is a damaged terrified monster" No, David, they aren't. It may make you feel better to collapse into the idea that everyone is as perverted as you, but it's not true. What was it Yami said? "You use underhanded methods so you assume your opponents do too". It's an assumption and don't even pretend it's not a judgement call.

[@namedrop721]

movelea would you feel better if you understood your assertion is also an assumption?

[@joshthegrave]

I was so confused by the adoration of this movie by critics. It's reasonably well constructed but to what end? I don't care about any of the characters or the plot and it didn't provide any new insight or interesting themes.

[@venaretro5444]

Yeah,the author of the book(wich also wrote the script for the movie) changed the ending of the book for the movie.So i guess the books ending is better.

[@gaaraxnaru]

+joshthegrave Well that's just it. YOU didn't care, but the critics and most of the viewing audience did. I personally cared about the male lead, even though I despise cheaters, he didn't deserve all of that! It was a fascinating look into a sociopath's mind and few movies can pull off an unreliable narrator for so long. Plus the mystery aspect was intriguing and even when the truth did come out about her fate, I still was on the edge of my seat waiting to see how it would all play out. Pus you gotta admit, showing it to someone else for the first time is pretty hilarious due to the face they make when the twist is revealed. I know my mom's eyes were particularly glued to mine when the twist came up since she saw the movie before me.

[@joshthegrave]

My mother guessed the "twist" almost immediately, as did everyone I know. It all felt predictable and bland. I don't think it pulled off an unreliable narrator and the "look into a sociopath's mind" was just standard or generic. Like I said, no new insight, for me at least. I've seen a lot of movies though. The moment Amy spoke I thought, "Oh so she's framing him. He's cheating or something." Plus the characters felt like actors reading lines the whole time to me. I never saw them as real or got invested in their journey. So bland predictable plot and "characters" that I don't care about. There was nothing left for me after that.

[@lexscarlet]

"...one hopes."

[@The.Legacy_x]

Actor observer bias, and projecting pretty much sums up gone girl

[@brandonchristopher9657]

Only movie where Tyler Perry wasn't a shitty actor

[@MrFTW733]

Fight Club and A Curious Case of Benjamin Button are the only Fincher films I really like. The rest piss me off too much, especially this one.

[@LEONSKENNEDY91]

in what way does it piss you off?

[@sandracheeks1811]

What DO heterosexual males call their ideal female partner that was too dirty to say? Now I’m curious.👀🧐🤨

[@kaed_f]

stay based

[@kevinapocolyposaurus6260]

i fucking hated this movie