Gong Du Faction Preview Fates Divided DLC | Total War: Three Kingdoms

[@SeriousTrivia]

So for everyone wondering about the patch notes, if CA hasn't officially released it then I can't cover it. While it was originally scheduled for release today, things has obviously changed and it will be delayed. But it will definitely be released before the DLC launches so whenever it does happen, we will have our regular patch rundown here on the channel and might I also suggest you all check out the official patch highlight video on Total War's channel for a brief rundown of the patch when it is announced!

[@kotvitskypeter3369]

Since the patchnotes are delayed, go finally get some rest man!! It looks like you're 24/7 on videos, go and chill out man :) Btw you really deserve it, being one of the best content creators (if not the best) for TW3K out there!

[@christiandauz3742]

Gong Du should be in 207 either a playable vassal of Liu Bei or Liu Biao I think the Yellow Turbans in 194 should all get a Dileema. Join Cao Cao or die!

[@Fidel17011984]

Yuan Shao starts allied with Gong Du in 200 start. Gong Du be like: “So you tried to defeat us and where did it get you? Back to me!” (in Thanos’ voice preferably).

[@Kassen777]

I really think they should allow the yellow turban remnant factions more diplomacy options. I don't finish campaigns with them because being locked into full map conquest with no vassals is a pain. Make it like the Nanman where it takes time and research to unlock the options By then you should be powerful enough that the han factions would want to deal with you. i would also want to tallow han factions to recruit yellow turbans since a number of them joined up. I would allow han to recruit nanman generals if they controlled nanman land to reflect the ability to recruit local forces like the Shu Han did

[@Snazf1re]

I like this setting for Gong Du be an interesting campaign

[@thibaultlion9952]

Hey Serious Trivia just dropping a comment on my favourite faction video to tell you how immensely I enjoyed these faction previews ! You're the best out there for 3k content 😊

[@axin9183]

Zheng Jiang and Zhang Yan: We are facing a difficult situation... Gong Du: Hold my beer

[@arbiter7x]

really looking forward to possibly Han-ised Gong Du, Liao Hua etc added to Liu Bei's faction down the road

[@primarchstar2087]

what do you mean Han-ised?

[@Snazf1re]

@@primarchstar2087 Gong Du and his followers join Liu Bei, effectively being absorbed into the Han style of life not Yellow Turbans

[@primarchstar2087]

@@Snazf1re So... access to Han Faction units? Like Liu Bei's Yi Archers and maybe some Cataphracts?

[@arbiter7x]

no, basically turn him into a Han class general like a champion with champion skills

[@prazeodyn836]

@@arbiter7x or maybe enable Liu Bei to integrate Gong Du in a mission? And enable him to recruit Yellow Turban units for his retinue/army only?

[@matthewsarson6934]

Considering that he is the last of the yellow turban leaders and that their faction died off so long ago, its a bit of a shame they havn't given him all the normal diplomatic options. Especially given how much better diplomacy is in three kingdoms than older total war titles. I suppose it sure as hell makes this start a challenge.

[@awdreytheawesomebat6148]

"the problem with being the last of anything, by and by there be none left at all." -Captain Barbosa

[@BagelBBagel]

It'd be really nice if they just got rid of the restriction from Yellow Turban employment of Han generals. It just seems like it's kind of unnecessary at this point. The fun thing with Nanman or bandits is they can be recruited by/can recruit Han faction generals and add some additional variety to your armies.

[@Samuraikush420]

Was hoping they made some changes as we are allied with yuan shao but as you ssid I guess it's just somthing they made happen as a one off at the start. Mercenary contracts for yellow turban remnants makes sense to me as well as non aggression pacts. They are basically bandits after MOH so a bit more options would be nice. Still very excited to eradicate Cao Cao from Runan.

[@owenmiles801]

Smashing it with all the coverage my man. Keep it up.

[@charliemosley8025]

I’d love to see some changes to the yellow turbans (both kinds) in the future, particularly for when you hit emperor. the imperial court wastes the virtuous leader reforms, and it feels wrong to have the same Han court that you’ve been trying to overthrow!

[@DuesVult]

When playing Gong Du Zhang Jian Zhang Yan Be like, objective: survive

[@felisenpai9625]

The fastest fan in the west here!

[@sovietbear1917]

The Peasant Swarm tactic is the real deal. I got the "When the Sun Rises in the West" achievement with Zhang Bao without even aiming for it; the overwhelming mass of peasant bands and Huanglao's Paragons was just too much for the Han Empire to handle.

[@gabe75001]

What's peasant swarm?

[@bannerhorde6506]

@@gabe75001 When you pump out tons of cheap units and overwhelm everyone by having huge armies everywhere

[@gabe75001]

@@bannerhorde6506 I don't see how that would work as their morale would be really low.

[@DmoneyS44]

@@gabe75001 a lot of units have high enough morale to hold the line while the rest of the peasants envelop the enemy

[@SeriousTrivia]

You can check out the Zhang Jiao campaign here on the channel. It almost became a peasant only campaign

[@marsupiallion94]

Remember you get to play He Yi (the replenishment guy in 194) with all the other yellow turban faction leaders (at least before the patch).

[@xetangbangcaukhi]

hmmm, I think right now we can't play him? it's only available after this patch?

[@marsupiallion94]

@@xetangbangcaukhi oh yeah I meant that. You’re 100% right.

[@daimpthing]

My favorite thing when playing as the Yellow Turban in Mandate of Heaven was having a whole retinue of Tyrant Slayers and using them to murder every hero on the field while my Gallants of the People march down the fields as my archers (whatever I could afford at the time cause Tyrant Slayers cost a heathy amount ) cover them

[@TehHank]

To be honest, It's kind of sad to think about. The soon to be 194 start date for He Yi has all the Yellow Turban boys fighting together (He Yi, Huang Shao, Gong Du) shoulder to shoulder against Liu Biao. But by the year 200, It's just Gong Du left and all his comrades and friends he made are all dead. Gong Du was my first campaign in TW:3K so definitely want to play a year 200 start with Gong Du.

[@eliu868]

In Romance, isn't Pei Yuanshao with Zhou Cang when Guan Yu is leaving Cao Cao, so he's still alive? I believe that he gets killed by Zhao Yun later in the story for trying to steal his horse.

[@SeriousTrivia]

you are right so I guess technically if they were to provide anyone to this start, it should be Pei Yuanshao

[@dzzykzzy8683]

A bit of a shame he doesn't have missions since he is somewhat relevant during this conflict.

[@Xila0705]

I thought it was going to be patch notes next, but I definetly like this more :)

[@SeriousTrivia]

I can’t release it before CA does so if they change the schedule then I am going to have to do the same

[@debjanipodder4209]

Patch note 😥

[@Xila0705]

@@SeriousTrivia aah makes sense, wil remember that for the future. Probably wont look at them anyway, as it is much more fun that watch your vids

[@LandofMert76]

With no other yellow turban factions to get destroyed by ai how will you get characters? Our normal recruitment pool is from defeated factions each turn

[@SeriousTrivia]

create rebellions or use assignments

[@maidros9856]

They should have given him missions. He actually participated in Cao Cao and Yuan Shao's conflict and it's the last time yellow turban will appear too.

[@Muramasa1794]

Gong Du campaign was my first campaign in 190 start. It was the best and I remember I conquered most of China and became Yellow Sky Emperor but by then Gong Du died. In 200 start it looks so bleak for Gong Du and Yellow Turbans. Kinda sad damn.

[@plopyxX]

i was never really interested in playing yellow turban or bandits, but on this dlc somehow i find them interesting, and i will play them.

[@SeriousTrivia]

you must like a challenge

[@arcomegis9999]

The previous DLC did say Gong Du was more realistic and practical. No wonder he lasts this long.

[@TheMoosenugget]

If only Gong Du, He Yi and Huang Shao got updated captain retinues after Mandate of Heaven. Having two generals with naught but peasant warriors and a retinue with Huangshao's Paragons and Chosen of the Eight Immortals was so good. I suppose it makes sense that the three aforementioned won't have them, what with the three being the remnants.

[@salvadorotero7963]

So, no book Earth, People and Heaven x(

[@9pmInTokyo]

Gong Du is my favourite YT warlord. Glad he’s got another start.

[@pachomiussinanicus1728]

Reforge the yellow sky!!!!

[@DefinitelyNotASmartFridge]

At least in the 190 campaign the emperor was killed after I captured him as YT, I'd expect it to be the same here Very nice preview once again!

[@animalsgimmick7966]

Hey SeriousTrivia! I noticed while playing Gong Du at the 194 start the faction rank information tables seem to be 1 behind. For example at Ascended it says 3 Han Factions will declare themselves emperor, which didn't happen until Enlightened and same sort of thing with the peace and trade agreements from earlier ranks. It's not a big deal, but it made me think the campaign had bugged out at first, doesn't look like CA have realized it's an issue in this update either. I've also ran into constant bottlenecks when it comes to characters which was surprising after watching your Huang Shao campaign where you were drowning in characters, other than using attract talent (which I have tried spamming) do you have any other tips for gaining new characters with yellow turbans? - Worthy of note I am running the mod WDG2 Season 2 Update, only modifies artwork, so unlikely to have caused any of this, though you can never be 100% sure which files have been edited. - Oh also, almost every character wants higher office and have done throughout the ranks.

[@freddiesawyer8055]

Do you think Gongsun Zan will receive a faction update when the Northern Tribe DLC drops? Surely he must do! He needs a faction resource desperately

[@ElSayyidCampeador]

super psyched that they made He Yi playable in 194 too. seems like I'm still gonna have to use mods to use all the YT units though. very weird to me they didn't let the remnants unlock the the 180s units at a higher prestige rating, not even counting the faction unique units. super looking forward to your first play through when the dlc drops love YT but all the added stuff Han are getting patch after patch are really making the bandits and YT look worse and worse

[@chungchutien3784]

Poor Gongdu. He is alone now

[@mikeclarke3990]

Almost makes me want to buy the Yellow Turban dlc

[@aoishiro6622]

I hope there will be a way for Liu Bei to recruit YT and Nanman units maybe also Qiang.

[@grandadmiralzaarin4962]

Can we as Liu Bei recruit Gong Du if his faction is destroyed? Since he joined Liu Bei historically?

[@SeriousTrivia]

Probably not since the subculture difference

[@grandadmiralzaarin4962]

@@SeriousTrivia a pity, still that's what mods are for!

[@a_goblin22]

I wish there was some kind of avatar conquest from shogun 2 but in 3k it would be really nice to see. But it hasn’t came back since shogun 2 so I’m not hopeful

[@totalwarbattles675]

Nice video Bro

[@kapgamess]

Hey serious!! I wanted to ask if ,when you begin with your walkthrough, will there be another walkthrough with mods like u have done before? The thing is although there are a lot of youtubers and walkthroughs for 3k there isnt that much on the modded scene . No spotlights no gameplay nothing.... So i was wondering if you are going to do another one . P.S. I realy enjoyed the modded playthrough u did with sun ce back in the day cause you have so much knowledge about the 3k period that its double awesome when we see you explaining the new modded unique characters as well as their backgrounds titles and stuff. You are the number 1 when it comes to 3k total war !!!!

[@SeriousTrivia]

So usually when there is a new update like a DLC, I want to a few without major mods so I know what is being changed by the DLC etc, but after that I am open to trying mods which is basically what happened with the Yuan Shu and Sun Jian campaigns.

[@kapgamess]

@@SeriousTrivia Thank you for answering ,and so soon at that!!!! I understand that. I realy hope in the future you do some modded playthroughs to showcase some major mods like wuking,tup, maybe some other overhaul mods. Would realy like your input on mods being created to 3k . You are awesome !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@lujoviste]

What happend to the patch notes

[@SeriousTrivia]

I can only post after CA posts so if they change the schedule then we will have to adjust as well

[@bosbanon3452]

Gong Du is the reversed version of Zhang Yan, their fate mirrored

[@totalwarbattles675]

Alguém do Brasil por aqui?

[@nadershah5196]

If we capture the emperor with going to he will abdicate at least that what happens in 190

[@SeriousTrivia]

I am not sure after the imperial intrigue rework

[@nadershah5196]

@@SeriousTrivia yeah I hope something cool happens

[@nadershah5196]

@@SeriousTrivia ok I did it doesn't change he will abdicate the throne with just a massage disappointing they could add a cut scene at least

[@LandofMert76]

Hey I should've watched this right away. Has the updated game mechanics.

[@nilsjonsson1133]

I've heavily abused Liu Biao in my He Yi campaigns. Gain free peace with all Han factions, then wait for him or his vassals to declare war and take all their land. EZ clap.

[@ouziqi198]

2 dislike: He Yi and Huang Shao

[@Archdezuel]

According to the wikipedia though, He Yi did actually surrender to Cao Cao. If I were to guess after his allies were killed and seeing no path to victory. A large number of yellow turbans did end up joining Cao Cao, and there's no special note of He Yi being executed after the surrender. (Which would likely had been documented as a win for Cao Cao, like the other YT generals who died in battle). I would like to think that He Yi was in fact drafted into the special YT division of the Cao forces, after all. Wouldn't it be an inconvienience for Cao Cao if said rebels decide to turn their weapons on him later? Wouldn't it had been better to leave them under the guide of someone they respected who could guide them?

[@SeriousTrivia]

usually you supplant the commander and give them a non-commanding role.

[@Archdezuel]

@@SeriousTrivia Ahh that's ofcourse a possibility :). Thanks for the reply Serious Trivia, and thanks for making your informative videos. I highly enjoy watching them. Keep up the good work! And remember the azure sky is dead!

[@tdbbe]

gongdu seems like the perfect dagger for backstabbing caocao but he was put down in history right?

[@SeriousTrivia]

well yes, they were beat during the Battle of Guandu by a small detachment from Cao Ren. Then when they tried to rebel again, Guandu was already over and then Liu Bei and Gong Du packed it up and fled to join Liu Biao.

[@SiodogRehane]

So if there are YT serving han factions historically. Maybe we should get an update that allow us to use them as han factions and viceversa. If not... well there is still a mod...😅

[@SeriousTrivia]

that is a hope among a lot of players

[@dimitriostsiampalis364]

Look at my boy Shi Xie please😭😭

[@SeriousTrivia]

he is at 6 PM EST today, so next one up

[@dimitriostsiampalis364]

@@SeriousTrivia I can't wait to see it! Thank you!

[@Tighnari]

interesting

[@xShurax]

I do kind of really dislike that the Yellow Turbans have such a, idk, cheap and lite version of the game? It feels like while Han get more stuff everytime, more unique characters, more mechanics, etc etc. the Yellow Turbans for me feel like they're just left at the game release version and nothing has been really done with them anymore. Mechanics like, idk, switching Han generals to be yellow turbans would be interesting in my opinion. Would make it feel like the agent mechanics in Shogun 2, where you could incite rebellions in other provinces with monks, or bribe a whole settlement to switch sides. As someone else mentioned, Han should be allowed to recruit Yellow Turbans, as it happened historically, but why wouldn't it be the other way around? What if bandits would join yellow turbans? I think since this game is mostly based on the romance, it should allow things like Han - Yellow Turban recruitments, Nanman - Yellow Turbans, Han - Nanman, etc. quite simply because I think that if the Yellow Turbans would've been more successful, certain Han generals would've maybe joined them instead of the Yellow turbans joining the Han.

[@thanezz]

I honestly don't think missions are needed at all, the sandbox feel is great too.

[@kienluong01]

I dont know why people think a faction dont have mission is a bad thing. Do you really want to build a building, build 12 units, beat this faction in 25 turns kind of mission that much?

[@YangMoses]

no more special heroes, not worth playing

[@SeriousTrivia]

Everyone is a special hero :)

[@alexanderchristopher6237]

@@SeriousTrivia But if everyone is special, nobody is special.

[@ezekielvonlichenstein3476]

But we get more unique heroes

[@ezekielvonlichenstein3476]

@@alexanderchristopher6237 everyone is special but not everyone is unique