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[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Here's how to set your pedal spring tension to maximize pedal speed kzbin.infoAbr1OzI_Ovk

[@jamesspooner1.2.76]

very helpful to people like me who were self taught and never shown proper technique. So please more of these short technique vids PLEASE

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Absolutely James, glad to know it helps you!

[@MG-pw7jp]

Seriously, I agree. Am self taught too.

[@jamesspooner1.2.76]

@@MG-pw7jp ye cool

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

@@MG-pw7jp Thank you MG24!

[@WhyNotZoidberg9218]

100% this. I would love more in depth videos on foot placement and how to set up the pedal (height/ beater angle) to get better at BD/kick.

[@unrefined5156]

Burying the beater is completely a matter of preference, but you NEED to be able to do both in order to be a well rounded player.

[@AlexMartin011]

Correct.

[@memyselfandi4581]

This is a great video for learning to maximize a single pedals usage ..I also appreciate the demonstration of speed increase

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

You're most welcome. I just hope it really helps improve your single pedal speed and power :D

[@king-manu2758]

Single pedal? You can practice the same thing with both feet and play double pedal like an absolute beast.

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Not everyone wants or needs to play double pedal you know 😉

[@king-manu2758]

@@ArtOfDrummingHQ of course! But the point is that this is not a "single pedal" lesson specifically as it can be used for single or double.

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Absolutely, got you 👍

[@bryan8056]

This was actually super helpful. I usually bury the beater out of habit, but this convinced me it may be more beneficial to try and not. It always threw me off of the beat if I didn’t bury it because I’d be stuck with my foot hanging in the air. This gave me a good idea of how you come towards the bottom of the pedal so you can rest in between hits.

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

It's also okay to bury the beater though as long as you find a way that works for you. A lot of pros bury the beater and play crazy things. This is just one approach that works for me. But if you do try this out and play better, let me know, cheers Bryan!

[@lopezfam7317]

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[@lopezfam7317]

Dios te bendiga y Dios bendiga a Todos los que estan leyendo esto! Deseo que tengan un hermoso dia! Buscad a Dios mientras pueda ser hallado! Jesus es el camino y el unico camino y regresa pronto! Recuerda cuando te sientas que no eres amado... el mayor sacrificio se hizo por amor! EL SUICIDIO NUNCA ES LA RESPUESTA! Porque de tal manera amó Dios al mundo, que ha dado a su Hijo unigénito, para que todo aquel que en él cree, no se pierda, mas tenga vida eterna. S. Juan 3:16 RVR1960 La paga del pecado es muerte (infierno) pero Cristo pagó nuestra deuda en la cruz para nuestra salvacion! Debemos volvernos a Dios y apartarnos de nuestros caminos pecaminosos, confesar que Jesús es el Señor y creer con nuestro corazón que fue resucitado de entre los muertos por Dios, y debemos de ser bautizados en el nombre del Padre, del Hijo y del Espíritu Santo y vivir por Su palabra y mandamientos! Confia que Dios ayudara con el resto! Busca a Dios, antes de que sea muy tarde! Hoy podria ser tu ultimo dia en la tierra! Que tengas un hermoso dia! -

[@mrfishlips7061]

one of the best tip videos ever

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

You're awesome 👍 thank you

[@bolillo5013]

I’m self taught and have been leaning toward the burying the beater technique. To compensate I’ve had to release my pressure on the pedal every time in an inefficient way, so this helps.

[@bradfoland2127]

This is perfect. Never bury the beater any more than you would a stick. It makes you tense and kills the resonance of the kick.

[@DBMMXXVIIXVII]

So I'm not supposed to bury the beater, I know a lot of guys do that like crazy, for example Stan Bicknell. Maybe it's just a matter of preference? However I'm gonna try to not bury the beater, thanks for the video

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Yesss i think I shouldn't have said it as a mistake, more like a suggestion. We know many pros that play so well burying the beater. It works for them. This is really just my preference and my reasoning is it saves energy, keeps your foot less tense, and let's the kick drum ring more naturally. Also if I want to bury it(I do at times) i can switch to that too. So there's no need for you to change what you do if it already works for you Jackson, cheers!

[@Nekro_bird]

It doesn’t matter unless you use triggers, which in that case don’t so you don’t accidentally hit the trigger when you’re not playing

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

@@Nekro_bird Actually it also doesn't matter much playing triggers. You can set the trigger settings to account for burying/not burying. Here's an example : Hannes Grossman buries his beater. He's one of the best metal drummers(if you know metal drummers) kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKuZnK2uhLVojbc Check out Flo Mounier (also buries his beater) and for a metal drummer that doesn't bury his beater, Alex Rudinger. So really both are possible.

[@Nekro_bird]

@@ArtOfDrummingHQ oh I actually didn’t know that. Guess I was misinformed, my bad! The more you know…

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

@@Nekro_bird No worries really. Now you know, and anybody reading this comment will also know now. You've actually helped spark an informative exchange here. It also takes a lot of humility to say you didn't know. Some others would insist they know(trolls) Cheers Carson 🙌 have a great weekend!

[@peacefulbliss1]

You've given me hope for my pitiful foot! Thank you, very impressive!

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

That's good to know:) all the best to your drumming journey!

[@sparks3423]

I'm with you my right foot is pathetic. This should help he makes it look easy

[@gabrielmoore6099]

I saw this a year ago, I was not a drummer…. A year later, I am now a drummer and could never get this video out of my head

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Wow welcome, hope you are having lotsa fun being a drummer so far

[@wynton765]

I dont know about yall but I BURY THAT THANG!!

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Hahaha check the pinned comment. It's okay to bury the beater 😁. My mistake to offer it up as a mistake instead of a suggestion that works for me due to the reason I stated in the video.

[@wynton765]

@@ArtOfDrummingHQ far out man!

[@Aarruda25]

Thank you I really needed this. Just subscribed

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Thanks for subbing!

[@69YUNGZOOTED69]

I’m only 14 just started playing a day ago so this is helpful and impressive

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Wow, hope my videos offer up some helpful stuff, looking forward to your journey and progress Dawson, cheers!

[@lillyfitzgerald9996]

@@xshxr that’s not how it works.

[@lillyfitzgerald9996]

@@xshxr go talk to a psychologist because you’re very clearly wrong.

[@ghostcowbo]

@@xshxr ok, btw can I ask do you have any friends? You seem like the type of annoying bullshitter who insults other people’s playing

[@babbel4421]

How's it going?

[@chrisjeffrey7570]

I’ve been a drummer for 15 years and you absolutely blow my mind lol, I just can’t seem to wrap my head around how we hear a beat every time you move your foot! Please make a follow up video? Something maybe with cowbells and chickens, Something that will really give me that feeling of “wow”.

[@Bike_Chain]

I also wanna say the rebound of your kick head does make the affect the feeling of your strokes.

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Yups 👍

[@YeOldeKamikaze]

Yeah. Mine has almost zero rebound when the head is very loose. A little bit of tension and it bounces much more.

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Also your pedal spring tension. Speed metal players tend to set it to the tightest even with a loose head, it rebounds like crazy.

[@recksroller2220]

Best single bass technique video I have seen. Time to practice

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

That's a super kind compliment. Thank you, hope this helps!

[@thenathanimal2909]

This is the best tutorial I've seen, thank you.

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Hey if it helps you play better, I'm grateful, thank you so much!

[@992ras]

I put my foot even further back almost to where it’s about to touch the heel plate for speed really help me and adjusting the actual action time of how close the beater is to the head also help. I got all this from watching George Kollias explain how he plays heel up, I can play heel down it just not as comfortable to playing heel up. If you want to adjust the beater head for less reaction time really does help when trying to play fast you waste less energy which took me along time to really understand with your feet

[@joelkimmel9374]

Great tutorial! I’ve been trying to learn the calf technique and this really helps!

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Thanks Joel, I hope you get more progress now that you know the technique better. Thanks for the new sub too!

[@THRAINofNAIN]

Great pedal. Had it for a while, worth the money

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Definitely love this pedal!

[@Gatzpyvana]

Thanks!

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

You're welcome!

[@prabhath4979]

Tq for ur vedio .it is a gud technique to build the speed of our legs...

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Thank you :)

[@acbdrumz]

Thanks helped alot

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Read the pinned comment, will help you more!

[@epoytoledo1070]

thank you very much master

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

I'm no master, but I hope it helps you!

[@startunes3934]

very helpful to me..thank you so much sis..God bless you richly!🤗

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Thank you, god bless you too. And I'm not a sis 😁

[@startunes3934]

@@ArtOfDrummingHQ oh no! Sorry bro!😬🤭

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

@@startunes3934 it's okay, all is good. Appreciate your kind words!!

[@startunes3934]

@@ArtOfDrummingHQ wow?😍 To God be the glory, bro! Looking forward for your upcoming vids. Would you mind tagging me or mentioning me?😁

[@MusicalGamer_YT]

ONG this is exactly what I needed to see ❤

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

I've got more kick tutorials that might help you kzbin.infoOYcnJWhlguk?si=K7jw8OMj6z3PNoWy all the best to your journey!

[@jazkrackers]

Great tips! Also, the sound is amazing

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Thank you, sound is quite shit because it's direct from phone camera only haha. Glad you find this helpful!

[@jadedenthusiasms]

Awesome info!

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Glad you think so! Hope it helps!

[@shinigami7719]

Hil up and hil down 🤘🤘🤘🤘

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Sort of :D

[@rebekapalfi76]

Burying the beater is actually not a mistake, it is just what you prefer vs what others like when playing. It’s also good to know that both of those techniques will produce a different sound. Play however you want to!

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

I agree 100% that it's okay to bury the beater, was a mistake on my part to make that a mistake. Really meant that as a suggestion. Look at the pinned comment on this video, cheers Rebeka 😁🙌

[@jadmohsen8880]

Oh my god… I’ve been burying the beater my whole life… call me stupid, but this video opened my eyes to the fact that we have to treat the beater the same way we treat our stick… keep it loose and use the rebound. I feel so dumb thank you so much for positing this I have a lot of unlearning to do

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Oh Jad, it's actually okay to bury the beater too. Many legendary people do it and still achieve what they want. This is just my preference and I use less effort for my strokes since I don't have to keep the beater forward. But really no problem with your own technique I suspect 👍

[@jadmohsen8880]

@@ArtOfDrummingHQ thank you very much for your response! I’m definitely still going to practice your method for a while, it looks very clean and fluid. Keep posting awesome videos!

[@caseyrector1018]

As a beginner this is what I’m struggling with the most. Thanks for the tips, I’ll try them out

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Hope it helps, if you have any more questions, ask away, I've also got more videos on feet technique if you wanna go even deeper. Thank you!

[@issaclopez4335]

@@ArtOfDrummingHQ i find it easy to lift my heel up first and allowing my foot to naturally fall back into place so that the beater can swing forward... however, i do have a question. when you start to go faster, the heel lift and drop starts to feel not as efficient as just keeping your heel up and using the ankle mobility to help push the pedal. is that correct? Your heel doesnt appear to move as much in the video when you go faster so it seems like theres more ankle motion.

[@jonathanmerrick9812]

this dude would be killer on a double bass drum setup

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

I do play some double bass hehe, thanks Jonathan cheers!

[@manofculture8666]

Burying the beater should be done by choice. But you're right, it shouldn't be a habit. I think being able to play intentionally is key.

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Yes you're 100% right. Nothing wrong with burying the beater. My video reallly. Shouldn't have said that as a mistake. Rather a suggestion. Appreciate the comment 😁

[@menriquez89]

Well put. “Should I bury the beater or rebound?” “Yes.”

[@joe_harry3514]

Steady 🤟🏻👌🏻👍🏻

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

😁👍

[@joe_harry3514]

@@ArtOfDrummingHQ 🥁✌🏻

[@TheNitropropain]

Thanks!

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

you're welcome!

[@elementscity4204]

Burying.the beater isn't wrong, it just gives different sound which works for certain things. When you don't bury the beater you let the low thump of the kick ring longer. But if you want a snappy kick sound you might want to bury it

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

True that :D You can for sure play burying the beater. Check the pinned comments

[@muhammedfreestyle9836]

Thank you for this video.

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Hope it's useful for you :D

[@sichothe_rock7201]

Thanks a lot! Lets make more usefull tips

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

My pleasure, really hope it helps you play more of the songs you want!

[@wardamo]

I once read the burying the beater will slow a player down, because of the time it takes for the beater to come backwards and the forwards on each stroke. I have since learned to not bury the beater, and now I use both techniques to get a different sound on purpose. I could be wrong, but I think Terry Bozzio does the same. I think that's who I got the idea from.

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Yes you're right. Doing it intentionally is not a mistake :) check the pinned comment. There's lots of info around the discussion there, cheers!

[@masonscheidt9801]

Everything is good except burying the beater is ok and good for lots of playing styles

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Yes it's totally okay to bury the beater. Check out the pinned comment, cheers 👍

[@TheRealMusic4Life]

Actually you do want to "bury the beater", but you do it with a raised heel, using controlled tension through the calf muscle. Not only do I play, I teach too. You'd be amazed at the number of students who get started using a natural bounce and it hinders them. I always explain it as, if you don't bury the beater in a controlled manner, you're creating a rhythm for your body to fight. Muscle control is what it's all about. Think of kick pedal rebound like you would think about stick rebound.

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Yes nothing wrong with burying the beater if its intentional. Look at the pinned comment. It's just the way I like to do it because I don't waste any energy. And also necessary for me to play upwards of 240bpm (look at all my other double bass technique videos) without me being inefficient

[@ronnietherat3942]

Great technique is made better by a good petal

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

A good drummer can play a shittier pedal just as well. Not me, but seen some pros do that.

[@swivelken248chan6]

Great ankle motion. I use swivel technique to do this effortlessly

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Swiveling is great too! Glad you've got a good one 👍

[@kas36spires]

Finally, someone who uses the same technique as I do. Thought I was all alone out here!

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Coolness 🙌 doesn't matter what the technique is though. If you can do it well enough for yourself, you're super. Anyways High five!!!

[@extremelycreativeusername3190]

i bury the beater when i play drums and it sounds and feels fine

[@kingarchie3412]

Can you play fast like he does, and doubles and all the good stuff?

[@extremelycreativeusername3190]

@@kingarchie3412 yes

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Guys please read the other comments, especially the pinned ones before jumping to conclusions. Both burying and not burying are fine

[@turismofoegaming8806]

I’d like to see a video of how you do a triplet with 1 foot on the bass drum?

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

I don't practice that at all so I can't do that, I'm a double pedal player so anything with more than 2 strokes I use the double pedal. Look for Jojo Mayer and some other drummers for that kinda technique :)

[@mattdiu93]

Nice I need to practice this, I can do it constantly 😅

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

All the best 😁👍

[@realdrumcover24]

Nice👍👍

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@ethanbyrd4135]

Great video! The only thing I would've liked explained more in depth is that burying isn't bad... While there's debate about whether it makes a noticable difference in sound some argue it's better for a punchier tone with less sustain, and heck Matt Garstka buries the beater. However, I doubt you'd find any speed metal guys burying as I think it's possible to play faster with the rebound.

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

That's the one mistake in this video. But the pinned comment and discussion alleviates some of it. 100% agree burying isn't wrong. It can be done well. Just my personal style here based on efficiency. Cheers Ethan!

[@tuomassaarinen]

One crazy foot 🤘

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

🤘Not that crazy at all. Appreciate it though Tuomas!

[@QUANTUMMUSIC101]

EPIC! ❤️🌞🥁

[@danielianne5407]

Thank you

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

You're welcome!

[@cnov.bikesndrums]

I think that it should come down to whatever feels more natural, like stick grip. I prefer a slide technique rather than a heel toe

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Spot on. Whatever works great for you!

[@micahramsay8890]

Yep. Exactly.

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

👍

[@Luneytoon]

*GONG!* Everyone: 😮😮

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

😂😁🤘

[@shawnbutler5081]

I love how her foot shakes

[@dukuhtvofficial2671]

Kerennn 👍

[@dewaynebryant1483]

Not one video has mentioned slack in the pedal.! Do you guys loosen it off so it kind of flops or tighten the spring for tension! I need some advice on that I believe it's the most important part bc if the pedal ain't right technique will never be either

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Made a video about it a long time ago here it is kzbin.infoAbr1OzI_Ovk?feature=share read the comments and thoughtful question and answers on that video for all the details too

[@kimpavfx]

this is how you can get heel toe in. i can play through the fire and flames on a single pedal

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Nice, good you got it down well!

[@lambsows4168]

Won't Burrying the beater get a tighter sound?

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Yes it does :) check pinned comment

[@pokerworld]

If that’s a woman’s leg, it’s beautiful. If it’s a man’s leg, also beautiful.

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

😂 Hmm I wonder

[@phohundred]

Good video, though I do think different techniques, such as burying the beater, shouldn’t be considered “bad.” It’s just a different sound and can sound better than other options depending on the context of the music! I usually don’t bury the beater, but it’s actually something I WANT to practice for the sake of having more sounds to work with! :)

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

You're absolutely right! check the pinned comment. It's okay to bury the beater 😁. My mistake to offer it up as a mistake instead of a suggestion that works for me due to the reason I stated in the video.

[@monsta2311]

can you do one of these on heel-toe technique?

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Sorry I can't. I don't play heel toe so I'm not good with it

[@SpiritMusicMeetups]

The instructions in white do NOT show well against the white description of the video

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Thanks for letting me know, I wonder if anyone is facing the same problem 🤔 cheers Spirit Music Meetups

[@SpiritMusicMeetups]

@@ArtOfDrummingHQ NP. You will really like my drum page on that website and also my KZbin channel playlists of same name. Lots of innovate tools of the trade developed since 1998.

[@TurboA4]

I should drum

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

GO FOR IT.

[@gazt9527]

Aprenda cómo hacerlo y los errores que debe evitar Levanta el talón de la pierna primero y déjalo caer naturalmente. Levantando el frente alto (tiempo) Deje que la parte delantera del pie descanse naturalmente sobre el pedal Enterrar al batidor (tiempo) Deja que Beather rebote naturalmente Coloque su pie más adelante Hará que sea más fácil mover el pedal pero más difícil controlar el rebote Coloque su pie más atrás

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

¡gracias por la traducción!

[@jimboscustoms]

You might get this all the time what's the best spring tension to work on this?

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

I recommend medium at least to start out with. I personally go tightest but that's only because I wanna play really fast, in a double bass context. But it will fatigue and drain you too quickly if you're not used to that and crank it all the way up. I also went from medium to max in about 6 months by gradually tightening the springs every 2 weeks

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Watch this short for a summary of spring tension and why I set it so tight kzbin.infoAbr1OzI_Ovk?feature=share

[@MyBoyGohan]

Will this tricks works depending on what you adjust your foot pedal tension?

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

This technique will work regardless of pedal settings, just a different feel and tension your foot will need to work with. I use max tension on these dws though because they're pretty light still compared to other pedals of the same range.

[@wowaolaresco4279]

*Slow Death/Black Metal song starts playing*

[@gamemasterjames5786]

What’s wrong with burying the beater, it flattens the sound out

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Nothing really wrong. Check the pinned comment James!

[@carnagejlu]

Hmm. I bury the beater. I feel like it gives me a more solid base.

[@Stixxyyyy]

How exactly do you not bury the beater when playing heel up? I can’t seem to get this right… (I play with lose spring tension btw so maybe that has something to do with it?)

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Yes loose spring tension means the beater hardly rebounds and you will have a harder time not burying the beater. BUT You can play fine by burying the beater too, look at the other pinned comment on this video for more details.

[@theguy6245]

Burying the beater isn't a mistake?

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Check the pinned comment. In short, it's not a mistake, just a suggestion.

[@blight01010]

I like a lot of these tips, but I would go as far to mention that burying the beater IS a matter of preference (as Jackson Hju mentioned in the pinned comment.) Many of us learn that way, since most drummers play this way. That being said, I can get behind challenging oneself to learn a different technique, because that's always helpful. For instance, when playing singles, NOT burying the beater can make all the difference in sound when playing styles like jazz. Keeping the beater off the head gives that nice open, resonant sound that jazz is known for. Bury the beater in the head and you lose that. For what it's worth, this is the argument that I have heard the most when it comes to burying or not burying. Of course, if one does this simply for the sake of the sound, then DO know that it's possible that you're going to lose a lot of that sound when playing live, depending on how the sound guy EQ's your kick. It will likely still have more low end, but if you like that open, resonant sound, then you should ask to see if they're willing to work with you to try an keep it. Assuming that their system can accurately produce it. Other than that, again, I think it's absolutely worth learning how to play in a style that one's not used to. But, that doesn't make what you're used to "bad" technique. 🪙🪙 Edit: included the pinned comment poster's name.

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Totally agree, my mistake to have made that seem wrong in the video. Meant it as 1 suggestion, I honestly think people can play both ways and be super killer. There are so many examples. Thanks for the very clear writeup cheers! Also check the pinned comment 😁

[@blight01010]

@@ArtOfDrummingHQ I actually meant to reference the pinned comment, that's my bad! I totally wrote my comment as a sort of "add-on" to what he originally said. I'll fix that now!

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Hey no harm done man, great explanations here 😁🙌

[@RHD-n6q]

Hello. I've been playing drums for 2.5 years. I've experimented with different spring tensions, but i'm always burying the beater. I'm not using double pedal a lot (Pearl P-932). Today i tried to max out spring tension and play without burying the beater. It feels different. I can play without burying it if not playing fast. But there's one problem: while playing doubles on high speed (let's say, 150bpm), i make not 2 but 3 hits. It's either 1 hit or 3 hits. The question is, is it worth trying to re-learn right foot technique to not bury the beater? Does spring tension need to be high to not bury the beater? It's frustrating and disappointing to be unable to play "right", but i can play "wrong" and get results i need (for now). Will i regret burying the beater in future? Additional info: for doubles i'm using slide technique; im not planning to play double kick very fast or play hardcore genres, but probably going to play some punk; i generally prefer mid-tempo songs.

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

I don't bury the beater only because I want my foot to be able to rest when it's doing nothing in between strokes. To save that extra energy and be more efficient. So that I don't need higher amounts of practice to be able to do what I do, as old as I get. However, when I'm playing fast, sometimes there's no room/time to not bury the beater and it becomes more efficient to bury it. A different example I will give you. I have a student who I recommend just burying the beater because his leg is 2x heavier than mine and even with max tension on a dw5000, the beater struggles to come off the head naturally. So for him burying the beater is more efficient and trying not to will require more energy. So the guiding principle is : what is most efficient for you. And every factor must be flexible in your pursuit of that. That being said, from what you tell me, max tension is not good for you. Because you're now fighting against it, back it off to medium at least. It helps you to bury the beater more easily now. Also I recommend changing spring tension gradually if you wanna experiment. Like crank 3 turns a day till you get to max if you wanna play at max(for resistance training) I personally now play with 40% tension. Here's a video on my latest concept of spring tension kzbin.infoe9jCNbpMWLM?si=WqMKR3HgGZGNOFs3

[@RHD-n6q]

@@ArtOfDrummingHQ, thank you for answer. Maybe I got it now. I'll try to relax foot when not playing it.

[@tadija6606]

Well....kinda easy with DW pedal.Try with some entery levels🤨

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Let me find some pedals 😉

[@coba4680]

My calves are crying while watching this

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

😂 Mine cried for a long time too

[@lorislaruedrummer6739]

Yes, but, you forget to say you use ankle technique for higher speed

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Hmm I supposed I also forgot to say I suspend my heel a little in the air, use the ball of my foot as an anchor for higher speeds. Didn't mention the pedal tensions settings, hmm and perhaps a few other things 😉

[@Highrollinhunter]

Dude when you played fast it sounded like Burzum

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

😂 And a lot of other songs too! Cheers man!

[@KaBoomChannel]

Thanks. This is my biggest problem.

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

I've got more videos that might help your kick speed kzbin.infoOYcnJWhlguk?si=K7jw8OMj6z3PNoWy

[@BigmoneyBrickwall]

What do I do when the flood stops?

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

You can come back down from higher ground 👍

[@stevepompei3694]

Just got a dual chain dw5000 double pedal as a gift, always played pearls, i just can't get comfortable with it, seems like unless you only play heel up its useless, im a hack, but it just feels cumbersome and heavy, it also makes lots of noises, some from the chain and some annoying constant creaking from the hinge part, are yours quiet at least?

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Mine are good, it shouldn't creak, try some wd40. Also you might wanna lower your spring tension and see if it works better for you. If it's brand new these shouldn't exist. And if it does out of the box, go return and refund it.

[@Virvum_Juggernaut]

That chick sure has a solid single bass drum technique.

[@yourdrummer2034]

I get 2 distinct tones when I bury the beater or letting it rebound Why is it bad technique to bury the beater? Edit: nevermind! I read the pinned comment!

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Haha thanks, it's totally okay. One of the mistakes in the video. Should change it to a suggestion but well its up there already wahaha

[@yourdrummer2034]

@@ArtOfDrummingHQ all input from any musician is great. You never know what you can glean from it! Keep up the great content!

[@ozigoranov]

Is it wrong to hit the pedal fingers-first instead of with the heel?

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Don't think it's wrong. I mean if your fingers are stronger and it makes more sense for your body, you can develop a way to do it well too. Great question Udri 👍

[@ozigoranov]

@@ArtOfDrummingHQ Yep, looked into it yesterday, it's common with metal drummers to play heel up. Thanks man, spent a lot of time with your videos.

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Thanks for watching many of my videos 😁👍. Remember nothing I say is absolute. Nothing ever is. It's just 1 good way out of many good ways. But since I'm good at this way, i gotta teach this way because it's what I know best haha. Cheers Udri! Grogu rocks 🙌

[@FabEnPeOr2]

One question :) when you sit, do you support/ rest your feet on the pedal(S) so that your ankle is doing the work ooor do you kind of hover over the pedals rising your legs and the work comes from the whole leg? (which I find less stressing on the ankle but a bit tiring in the long run on the abs and a bit on the legs? Thanks

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

I play heel up hovering. as you see me go faster it's more apparent my heel doesn't touch the base. But it's crucial you don't overdo this. Some people hover too high and it's too taxing on balance and upper leg muscles. I choose heel up because it's easier to get more power with less motion/effort. Heel down works fine for lower volumes. As for the ankle motion, it's possible with both heel down or up to play ankle, and quite necessary to do fast tempos anyway. Will make a video on this. It's a very good question and hard to answer all the details in a comment

[@FabEnPeOr2]

@@ArtOfDrummingHQ that is a lot I'll keep that in mind and will be glad to see the video. Do you maybe have one already about how to sit at the drums? It might hear like a silly question but as a beginner there is like a lot of ways I could choose and I might be picking a bad habit right away, which would be nice to avoid

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

I just uploaded the drum seat set up video kzbin.infovWm3IRSNP9E?si=hMWoYvpKfAHU-PT8 3 keys in the video, hope it helps

[@drewkarchev]

@artOfDrummingHQ Awesome video 🙌 What muscles do you use to lift and lower your leg? awkward moment for me :(

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Hey its a combination of thighs and calves. The thigh needs to strengthen a little to suspend the foot, and then the calves need to push the pedal for the fast strokes, whilst the momentum keeps it rocking at a steady pace and roughly same height to not disrupt the thigh

[@drewkarchev]

@@ArtOfDrummingHQ how difficult. that is, all movements occur due to contraction of the calf muscle? and the hip at this time just keeps the leg in limbo? if so, in slow motion it looks like you're lifting your leg with your hip. I'm confused…

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Not in limbo, it will still go up and down because of the rocking motion due to the calve. The only way to totally freeze the thigh is if we play heel down or use our shin muscles. Thomas Lang and Derek Roddy does that. So think of your heel being suspended but it still rocks up and down. Its the ankle that's swiveling, and the front of the foot pushing down when you use your calf. Not the hip lifting(which has nothing to do with the ankle and foot at all). Although it can look a little similar.

[@drewkarchev]

@@ArtOfDrummingHQ Thanks for the reply friend. It turns out that only the calf muscle is responsible for the movements of the mallet, while the thigh does not perform any function?

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

That's right, movement of the heater caused by calve muscle. Thigh has to pick up leg to begin, and support the leg throughout while the calf does the work.

[@lewisjones284]

And to all you beginners out there: twitching does not count. Never try and ‘hone in’ that twitch reaction that makes your kicks go fast. It will never sound clean. Take small steps and start slow!

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Good advice, learning to control the fast motions is key :D

[@aethrya]

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[@lostknotdown4ever]

I personally disagree with the "burying the beater" comment. For some people (myself) the way I sit rested at a drum kit means the beaters are already touching the head (yes I play heel up). Its mostly just about ending up where you started and making sure your leg is relaxed in my opinion (but I'm also not as fast as art of drumming hq so maybe I am objectively wrong? Oh well)

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Nono, you're legit. Lots of people play burying too. It's just the way I teach my technique for more efficiency and more energy saved by relaxing your foot when it doesn't need to. But if you're already rested, means your pedal tension is quite low and that's totally fine too. You play your way Doctor :D

[@lostknotdown4ever]

@@ArtOfDrummingHQ absolutely the most underrated educational drum content creator, really taking the time to reply to comments on a 3 month old video. Incredible stuff and I love you for it lol

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

I love constructive comments like yours. I will certainly miss important stuff out of my videos from time to time. So really, thank you for taking the time to write something thoughtful, and then reply my comment with kindness. Thank you 👍 have the best weekend!

[@supatv4124]

Sep 12 2020

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

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[@La_sagne]

about the burying the beater thing.. after seeing tens of thousands of videos and hundreds of life Performances of the elite in the field i would estimate it to be about 50/50. e.g if i remember correctly vinnie colaiuta buries the beater and simon philips doesnt

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Hahaha YES. I'm currently making a video comparing both and looking at 8 different elite drummers to offer a wide perspective. Video is dropping next week, cheers Lasagna, I love Lasagna btw 😋

[@La_sagne]

@@ArtOfDrummingHQ well... Lasagna loves your youtube channel too! 😄

[@classy_902]

Hehe it kinda sounds like the vine boom sound effect

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Ooh I've never heard that before

[@meltrop9580]

This looks like ankle technic right ?

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Hey yes it is when fast. Heel up too 😉👍

[@meltrop9580]

@@ArtOfDrummingHQ looks so clean i'll Work for that 🤘

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

@@meltrop9580 I've got a whole series of double bass lessons(ankle technique too) and practice videos which might help you if you're interested in learning this well kzbin.info/www/bejne/h5C0l4OZiMl5sMU

[@TruePlatform]

I bury it always have. Let alone everyone ive ever seen play on really high skill levels bury the beater as well. Lets take El Estepario Siberiano for example. He ALWAYS burys the beater and as of this current generation, hes probably the best player ive ever seen, so i think imma continue to bury. 😅

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Check the pinned comment 😉 keep burying that beater as long as it makes you happy and you can play everything you want 👍

[@dayday5340]

Whenever i play I use my foot but like when going fast I use my tip of my toe

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Nothing wrong with that if you can do what you wanna do with that 👍

[@ammarsjourney4705]

For those who has the same problem as me, try stomping on the heel section rather than the actual pedal. Rest your feet on the pedal and stomp the heel. Works for me😅

[@keithmoon3190]

When you cannot afford a double bass drum pedal so you try some techniques to make do with one pedal:

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

😂👍