Good Workmanship in Electrical Construction

[@m4rcink]

I'm not an electrician, I'm a steam guy. Dan Holohan (my favorite steam boiler philosopher) writes: "A hundred years from now, they will gaze upon my work and marvel at my skills, but never know my name. And that will be good enough for me." So make it neat, even if it will be covered with drywall. It will be appreciated.

[@rupe53]

years ago I read his book on steam heat. I found it full of those little pearls of wisdom! (and quite amusing) Of course steam heat is a dying art but there are still many out there needing attention and get torn out because that new kid on the block can't fix it. I suppose the same could be said about knob & tube wiring.

[@blitzbiker2001]

Workmanship makes a world of difference. My city recently got a new electrical inspector, he took a look at one of our jobs and was so impressed that he took pictures to take back to the office. Then we have an inspection for a small job a few weeks later, the inspector comes and spends more time talking about the music I was playing on the radio than looking around. When you build a reputation of workmanship the inspector will take notice.

[@barryomahony4983]

A big part of "neat and workmanlike" is showing respect for the person that someday will come in to upgrade/modify/repair your work, and has to figure out and deal with what you did. They'll really appreciate it if you did it right.

[@Jeff-xy7fv]

You can say that again! Nothing frustrates me more than having to work with some previous idiot's hack work.

[@mwechtal]

Not to mention that the "next person" may be you.

[@stalo8]

Preeeaaacch

[@0ddSavant]

Excellent point. Everything gets upgraded [or fails] eventually. Not having locate a master safecracker or explosives expert to remove last cycle’s gear is such a time-saver. Hell, having just a few screws that aren’t stripped to shit from Cap’n Impact Driver is enough to brighten my day some days.

[@AT-oj7of]

As will the homeowner (like me) who may do small repairs or adjustments. I do this on my home within my capacity on basic electrical. I’m blessed to be in a home that was exceptionally well built back in the 1930s. (I even found the original blueprints and contractor spec sheet. Very cool.) Now, as I go in and make little changes, like changing ancient switches for new ones, I find impeccable work even after all these decades.

[@Berzerk29]

When I did electrical work, the electrical inspectors definitely appreciated a neatly done job.

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

Most inspectors are a pain in the ass. Just sayin.

[@bryson3254]

@@electricianron_New_Jersey only if u dont care about your work. I talk to the inspector like he's my buddy. They say it looks good and u did everything to code and hand me the sticker without hesitation

[@VictorTeodoro-h8j]

I started working with my brother and he thought me how to make everything i do look nice now im standing out in the company im in

[@theteenageengineer]

Probably one of my favorite quotes that’s goes perfectly in this situation is, “make things easier for the next guy, because chances are the next guy is going to be you”

[@soopr38]

My g/f always gets pissed at me when we go into a building with exposed piping, because I judge how the piping/lighting ect., has been done. Most of the time I don’t realize I am even doing it. It’s just a habit. Love your videos !!!

[@IceBergGeo]

I've learned just to keep quiet. She knows I'm looking, but doesn't want to hear it, so I just keep it in... Sometimes though, a laugh will emerge.

[@soopr38]

@@IceBergGeo I’m glad I’m not the only one that does that!

[@CA-lk6fd]

I do the same thing! 😁

[@docferringer]

@@IceBergGeo How often do you have to sit through her bitching about co-workers or nodding along as she talks about one of her hobbies/interests? She can handle it. And if she can't then she will give you the silent treatment (or as I like to call it, Me Time). ;)

[@IceBergGeo]

@@docferringer wifey is actually pretty good, and I like talking to her. However, complaining about electrical is almost always the same thing...

[@erich1380]

I tell my helpers about that code article all the time. An inspector can fail you just because he doesn't think your work looks good so always try to remember that

[@ATSNorthernMI]

The inspector can knock down work that is shoddy and looks a mess. They will knock you down if you have too many splice boxes on a new job. We had to move an electrical panel because the plumbers had to run water and sewer above the panel and in that AHJ, you cannot have water and/or sewer lines above an electrical panel. I had to make a few splice boxes and was knocked down. I had to go back out and rip all the homeruns out and run new wire to all the circuits in this 2 story with full basement walkout lake front home.

[@Jeff-xy7fv]

@@ATSNorthernMI Isn't the plumbing and HVAC normally done prior to the electrical? I think that is one of the reasons why. They only have limited spaces where they can install their equipment, so the electrician uses whatever is remaining for theirs.

[@adfadgaqgv]

The nicer it looks the less questions the inspector asks. We make it pretty just to be covered by drywall

[@IceBergGeo]

That's what I like to say. Get the inspector to look and leave, after passing your work.

[@adfadgaqgv]

@@IceBergGeo gotta distract him a little bit first

[@zap0918]

Not always, friend. I work on the industrial side of the business, and none of our stuff is covered. I believe it is quite important to do things neat and professional. The company tends to get more work that way. Take care.

[@adfadgaqgv]

@Vin Body Surf every time

[@CAMMEDcivic]

Lol all those leveled out piping to get covered 🥲

[@cameronklug1635]

As a current electrical student I have learned to always install projects as neat as I possibly can (trying to challenge and impress myself) and the teacher always seems to love my work, neatness most certainly counts. Btw thankyou so much Dustin for all of your videos, I can’t tell you how much I have learned and how much you have helped me, love you bro

[@skylerchesnut1777]

I truly feel that taking pride in your work, and having a good attitude will take you as far and as high into your career as you want to go.

[@MikeWoodard]

When you get compliments from the inspectors who say "Whoever did this knows to to wire a house", than you know your stuff is neat. And also not getting complaints from your boss that your taking too long. Its always that fine line between time and code.

[@mikenormandy9250]

To answer the intro video, YES AND YES - It should be done to the best of your ability AND be up to code! There is no excuse...be proud of what you produce, it is an extension of yourself. This goes for ANY career or industry...Thank you Dustin! I am a second year apprentice and I had my teacher show our class your Transformers and Grounding & Bonding video!....Hope to get to show many more!

[@cwwright83able]

The problem is the pay is starting to drastically not keep up and it causing low workmanship

[@jamesmcguffey3569]

Exactly

[@uppercutshurt5199]

I can definitely agree with that.

[@llanman81]

From an inspectors pov, you are 1000% correct about how far I’ll go if stuff looks squared away. Another thing that makes my life easier is when the person can communicate what they did and why they did it. It gives me a greater comfort level when someone can explain things. Messy job sites and wires that look like a rats nest are gonna get a more detailed look for sure. Take pride in your work even if it’s getting covered up, someone is going to see it at some point. Great job brother, your videos are top notch!!!

[@Jeff-xy7fv]

Exactly! And don't forget that Jesus always sees it even if it is covered up. And He expects us to perform our work as if it's for Him and not for people. "And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men". Colossians 3:23

[@lou9108]

Great segment Dustin. I am a retired G/F Electrician of 25 years from the Bay Area. I was taught old school by my father that even I had to dig a ditch for conduits runs make the ditch so that you would be proud to sign your name to. Keep teaching the new breed the old school ways.

[@gabopiquant4959]

Pride in you work is key. Level, plumb and square.

[@CA-lk6fd]

If some of these new guys had to work for someone like I worked for starting out, they’d run off crying before the first day was done. I didn’t appreciate it at the time, but looking back I appreciate it now. One thing he always said was “Do it right, or walk away from it”.

[@thrett23]

dustin, you are spitting facts in this video! this advice holds true for any endeavor in life... show some pride, differentiate yourself, constantly change and improve! good stuff, my brother 👊👊👊

[@jimanderson4495]

I wish I was 50 years younger, lived in Austin and worked for you. Thanks

[@jvallor]

I worked in corporate real estate most of my career. As an owner, I trust clean, well organized work and tended to use the electricians who were professional and proud of their work over and over again.

[@FishFind3000]

Even if you know nothing about the trade people can still see when things are done neatly.

[@SeanD313]

Interesting topic, and glad to see so many comments by people who take pride in their work! My take: 110.12 requires "neat and workmanlike," *AND* includes a prominent note to refer readers to NECA 1-2015 - which "describes what is meant by installing equipment in a 'neat and workmanlike manner' as required by the NEC." Therefore, since the specifications and requirements laid out in 1-2015 form the definition of the required "neat and workmanlike manner," as far as the NEC is concerned, those specifications ARE code.

[@Californiansurfer]

Quick and dirty was my old habits. Today, I clean up after myself and verify everything is neat which when you return and trouble shoot everything is identified and trouble shooting goes fast. The other day, i was working on computer network which they had blue wire insides building and tone the wire which were yellow wire. To be honest when you take on someone else’s job, you are in for surprise…. Downey California

[@alangivens7983]

Dustin, you knocked it out of the park with this video, many kudos to you and I particularly liked the parts where you encourage electricians to step up their game and continue to learn.

[@JCWren]

A number of years ago I installed a fully wired alarm system in my house. Back then, the alarm monitoring company had to come out and program the panel. The technician showed up and was looking over the wiring and asked me "Who installed this?". I told him I did, and he replied with "Dude, this looks cleaner than most installs professionals do." In the 15 years I had that house, I never had a single problem with the alarm system. Neat runs, properly stapled, holes through headers, cable raceways, nice clean wiring in the panel all contributed to that. And as a homeowner, when I see an outlet or switch box that isn't square and plumb on a stud, or the inside of a breaker box looks like amateur hour, I'm judging that electrician that installed all that stuff, and thinking "Doesn't care enough to do it right."

[@stuartkynoch7289]

As an Estimator in the electrical trade for 20 years I would always see that statement in specifications. I've known what it means but I'm glad you took the time to explain it. When I was in the field I took pride in the way my wires were run and installed and devices mounted.

[@Railfanhamradio]

Thank you for this video. My story: I apprenticed in the 1980s with who I thought was the meanest guy. He demanded that everything I did was "perfect" in his eyes, not only to code but aesthetically as well, whether it would be seen or not. He taught me to clean as I go, not waste material, and many other good work habits. Today when I look back, I see that he was teaching me to be the best I can be at my job. These habits have helped me at my work throughout the years in unmeasurable ways, and yes, i look back and i am proud of my work. Well worth the extra effort!!

[@ColeMatthewsOfficial]

Hey dude. Thank you so much for these videos. I’ve been considering becoming an electrician and I’ve been playing your videos on repeat. Big thanks

[@rogerhodges7656]

The code section for unused openings could be used as an argument for covers on the open boxes in your last video.

[@twothreebravo]

I was thinking the same thing and I thoughts that's where he was going with this

[@tlngnckr11]

Thanks for putting into words what I’ve been trying to teach. This video should be assigned watching for all apprentices!

[@Ohmanwhyyourfeelingshurt]

Working electrical now used to do carpentry and finish work. My best friend/ boss always told me do your work like you were doing it for your house.

[@rhkiku]

The way I see it, neat and orderly work makes a happy customer. The neater the work, the more it impresses a customer. The customer won't know anything about code, but they will know if a conduit run is not level, if a run of flex looks like a wet noodle, or if a panel looks like a rat's nest. Sure, ugly work could pass an inspection, but it won't make a customer happy. Unhappy customers mean less work down the road.

[@inspector8572]

I am a retired Water Treatment Plant Inspector, we almost aways contracted out our expansion projects as our in-house electricians are for maintenance and repair. Our contract specifications always use the NEC as well as other references as a minimum UON as specifications often required much more robust installation than minimum NEC requirements. As the AHJ (Authority Having Jurisdiction) I often cited the NEC as well as other national and international references included in the specifications and would never allow sloppy work as a starting point and only afterwards would actually look at the minutia of the installation. PS our contracts were always in the 1mil to hundreds of millions of $ so we specifically specified the highest craftsmanship of the trade as well as special materials, lines and grades and some examples of what wasn’t permissible.

[@TheTantanski]

Everything you’ve said is true, make it look good and professional. But I have a caveat, when a customer is cheap and thinks the job is easy, either don’t take it, or get ready for sloppy work to makeup the cost. So many times I turned down side work when the person just doesn’t realize how much time and the cost it takes to make things look good and professional.

[@Wrenchen-with-Darren]

Its all about workmanship, you know it was done well. Others may notice it, that's a bonus. 👍

[@petercampbell4220]

As a utilty worker, did my own house. Inspector, liked it, other trades asked if I was an electrician. Work was a few steps down fron nuclear wiring.

[@Shadi2]

There are times when neat & tidy can be a hinderance. Some guy zip tied all the neutrals together in a panel before breakers were put in. So when I had to upgrade 1 breaker to CAFCI, I had to remove half the breakers just to cut the zip ties so I could route 1 neutral into the new breaker. So yeah, neat isn't always the best.

[@illestofdemall13]

You don't need zip ties to be neat and tidy.

[@cesarmoore7996]

Always a naysayer out there

[@tfun101]

I’ll be honest, it literally makes me want to puke when I hear someone on a job say “neat and workmanlike manner”. 😂 It’s always either a first year apprentice or one of those all around inspectors that’s never actually done electrical work.

[@tfun101]

@@AdamTMJester nope…sure didn’t 🤣

[@FishFind3000]

@@tfun101 also add anyone that takes pride in there work

[@chorgzent.3978]

Bro u clutch with ur perspective. True tradesman no cap

[@rayray3429]

I take pride in all i do with my mind always open to find the most decent way with less bends in all! Huge fane brother keep it up!..in the process of getting my journeymans for more pay lol but all the from San Antonio Tx huge fan

[@michaelruiz4074]

Neat and workmanship says alot about you and how you work cause I'm a construction electrician apprentice where I was installing emt conduits that have to be neat and look good and be in line with each other

[@bradswensen117]

My signature is putting rings for my phase taping. I do 3 single rings of tape with a tape width gap between them for 4/0 and smaller and 4 rings on 250+. All of the tape rings line up so it looks like a line parallel with the breaker or bussing. It's clean and doesn't take long to do.

[@stevegrande1698]

Sort, Set, Shine, Standardize, and Sustain. If you follow the 5s theroy you will be organized and proud of your work. Build it like a professional and you will be viewed as a professional.

[@DominickRuocco]

I have worked in this field for about 20 years and always make sure my work looks neat and exceeds what the NEC requires. 20 years later I'm now running multiple jobs for the same company that I started with all those years ago.

[@LPFIRERESCUE]

Honestly, clean coded electric panels, receptacles, connections, spacing is what makes you a professional. Period. I cannot work around sloppy electricians for example I've worked behind CEs that have butchered connections. And literally test pulled the connector and off it came.. point is a clean job is a professional job!

[@charu002]

"just like running a pipe" always get reminded when i ran bx

[@rubensantiago807]

1st year apprentice ( more like first week) love your stuff man very informative . I actually had this question while on the job recently (your answer was way better)

[@thoughtsofanoldSoldier]

It was one of the most emphasized part of code class when I was pursuing my electrical degree.

[@royreynolds108]

What you have said in this video aptly applies to any job, profession, or work. Period. I have always tried to do my best.

[@tmillsaz]

I actually used to sign and date my work... I'm sure there are still backboards out there with my name on them. I had the guys I was working with on these jobs do the same... sometimes we would have 3 or 4 signatures. Good times, but we worked our tails off :)

[@jamestroy9625]

I am a journeyman electrician no longer working for electrical contractors, tired of a lot of sloppy work from electricians ( not all ) wondering how the hell some of this passes inspection. I am a little slower in my work but almost every time I pass an inspection first time. I have had to re-do crap that even a master had done. I’m not knocking electrical contractors but most I worked for are to much in a hurry to move to next job. To re-do what another not all electrician has done is not only time consuming but costly as well. Quality and neatness brings in a good word.

[@alexandermcconnell9852]

Couldn’t 110.12(A) also apply to the argument from your last video about J-boxes and the need for there covers?

[@Enlightn76]

You touched on valid points in the videon and helped clarify the intent of that section of code. Personally I've found when you do neat work, even on just a rough in, the inspectors fly through the job and don't really tend to beat up on you much. If somebody who works for me has a question about whether something "looks good enough." I ask them if it's OK for me to write their name phone, number, and date of install on it. If they say no, then they fix it, if they say yes then I scribble away and we if they really mean it. This solves a whole lot of problems with hack work on projects.

[@rupe53]

From what I have seen with inspectors, if the job looks neat and tidy then they know you are paying attention to your work. It's also easier for them to see what they want to see. You make their job easier and they break your balls less. I usually do small talk with them anyway and just say to let me know if any changes are necessary. (rather than argue a point) Some inspectors have certain things they like to pick on so knowing their quirk can be helpful. I had one inspector who insisted an outlet cover needed to be installed (rainproof when in use) and my point was the outlet was already inside a rainproof enclosure. (generator cabinet) He also wanted it to be GFCI unless it was a dedicated outlet. (single not duplex) I pointed out there were 2 items to be connected (block heater and battery charger) so there were no extra outlets. We finally installed 2 boxes, 2 single outlets, with 2 rainproof (in use) covers INSIDE what was already a weatherproof cabinet so he would pass the inspection. Go figure!

[@cwwright83able]

$37 to $45 an hour is acceptable in today's time and union wages are around $52 to $65 depending where u are at

[@joshespe7985]

Where tf are you? Lol

[@cwwright83able]

I'm in Philadelphia area not to far from New York city we have a very strong union here and even our non union guys benefit from it but us trades gotta all start demanding what our truth worth is ..McDonald's workers are making $17 an hour I'm not knocking them but fair is fair

[@dorhocyn3]

Let your inner OCD (obsessive compulsive disorder) shine. I’ve been an auto tech for over 25 years, when I do a major job I like to make sure it looks like it rolled off the factory floor when I’m done, every clip every fastener every wire every hose exactly where it is supposed to be. Things seem to work better when they are where they belong. I can usually look at a newer vehicle and tell when someone has been messing around underneath it (that includes you Carmax!)

[@garbo8962]

Cracks me up in some large buildings and a local mall where they installed 10' of doubled up unistrut but only installed 3 long pieces of all thread rod to and installing up to 4" conduit on both sides of unused it creating 2 large bows in unustrut. At the large hospital & research buildings that I retired from the inspector told us that they probably had the largest pull box around. Called it the 80 way. Had 80 4" conduits going into one end then 80 4" conduits leaving the other way and maybe 12 4" conduits leaving side of 20' long junction box. Junction box was made with 3" long slits for guess eartquake. They had iron workers add extra steel but 8 level unistrut ladder bowed. Broke their balls on neat & workmanship matter over that. Worse part valve ass contractor had probably every conduit wires go into a conduit on other side of box and different kevel. If a cable ever burnt up at top of box would be impossible bro replace. Wires went from 8th floor generator ( emergency power ) to 3 rd level of basenent. They spliced over 240 think they were all 500 MCM cables in that box.

[@itszachcarter8370]

Loving your content Dustin! Thank you!!

[@DarkEdgeDesign]

Take pride in your work. I expect another electrician to look at my work and say "well done dude". We all know when we leave something sloppy, personally it bothers me...so I'll do the extra work to make it right.

[@nathenschultz3004]

The public can’t see inside everything we do. Putting up clean work is the only way to demonstrate that you have a professional standard of work. Looks count.

[@jamesconklin120]

That article should be tattooed on every apprentice and mechanic’s brain , even if it’s going to get covered up people will see your crooked pipe work and think that’s how you will get the job done and that goes for wires in panel boxes ( nobody wants to see a rats nest in a panel box )

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

I always do nice neat work because I'm a professional. Not every job I do looks perfect but I guarantee you its done right the first time and is safe. IMO terminations are the most important aspect of our work, not how perfect wires are bent to each bus bar or circuit breaker.

[@user-gu7fm8gn2r]

Professional and neat work also suggests that you know what you're doing.... and that you've done it enough times to have experience... customer's relax, employer's relax... which is usually a good thing. Not to mention, having the discipline to focus on great craftsmanship indicates that you won't take shortcuts with something as dangerous as electrical installations... but like you generally said, good looking shit just looks better.

[@ericwotton2046]

Very true take pride in your work. Also gets the inspector to relax when onsite. 👍

[@jacobplank]

Another great video with great tips! If you love what you do it takes less effort to make it look neat when you are done.

[@jaydenlavender5529]

Remember this that work will forever have your name on it so make them put some respect on your name

[@Madactionmedia]

This is probably my biggest frustration with contractors with licenses, they don’t even care.

[@SeanRefsnider]

As a diy type, I always try to have the inspector look at my work and assume that a skilled professional did it. Having said that, I’m not charging myself time and materials, so I can ‘afford’ to take my time and make sure that everything is ridiculously neat.

[@monteglover4133]

If your conduit runs look almost like art (as they should) inspectors tend to be more likely to take your word that you will correct any deficiencies that they may find. But most of all pride in workmanship. I work in an industrial environment , It annoys me to no end after I’ve done a sculptural like job running conduit and another comes after and makes a mess out of it when a machine gets moved

[@MikeHarris1984]

Have pride in your work and make it easier for who will work on that item after you. Make it nice and neat.

[@menpich1435]

Quality above all else.

[@williamsnyder6514]

I love your videos Dustin and I have used some of your content for questions on my Nat King Code page on Facebook. #1 informational notes are mostly unenforceable by the AHJ unless it's an ampacity table or some shit. #2 I frequently post 110.12 as a code violation when it can't be failed by the AHJ for that reference alone it must be supported by another reference to have a correction issued. #3 We make jokes about this in my electrical groups/pages because in the 2011 handbook it says 110.12 was the most cited violation in the NEC. We thought this was hilarious and I supported my box cover requirement with 110.3(B) which is very much enforceable by the AHJ. Keep up the good work and I will always help you out if I can.

[@victormalagon5172]

Great video. Thank you for putting this out.

[@danielfoit7055]

Wasn't able to read the pull box section of 1-2015 but I'm wondering if it states that covers must be installed on j boxes or not ?? Let us know !!!

[@mayorart1]

"Good Workmanship" is subject to interpretation by the Inspector.

[@TunafishSmoothie]

I much prefer a neat installation, regardless of who will see it in the future. I hate to see a bunch of twisted Romex run with no planning in an attic (I see this a lot in production builders), same with stab-locs, which I see way to often. I also see pros do things that as you say looks like a DIY job, for example a circuit where the line in goes to a stab loc on a receptacle, and the line out is also a stab loc. No pigtail. I guess it is cheaper and faster for the production builder, and the inspector passes it, and when it causes a problem the builder is out of the picture. As a consumer (not a production/spec builder, but contracting work) I will pay more for the guy who does neat work. It doesn't cost much more (it's only fractions of a percent), well worth the cost. It looks nice for the client, I trust the workmanship and can add it to my portfolio for future clients. For the electrician, if you get a custom builder that likes your work you will never have to advertise or hustle for jobs (this depends on location of course), but reputation means a lot.

[@MrMaxyield]

Yea man agree 💯💯💯 Code is MINIMUM STANDARD not instruction manual or anything else... It only ensures a SAFE SYSTEM, not a pretty one lol... We electricians are the king of tradesman 💯💪🏽💪🏿✅ Our work should always have high craftsmanship and we should always strive for more knowledge and understanding. * Loving the uploading man keep them coming...!!🔥🔥🤘

[@evzenhedvabny6259]

In my experience a guy who takes the care and makes it neat takes the care and makes it to regulations (code if you like). Whether they are plumbers electricians or roofers.

[@peaceinator56]

So youre saying I should put covers on j boxes. Haha. Agreed though; take some pride in your work. It'll make the inspector happy and it just feels good

[@elcuh196]

I think it should always look good , especially exposed piping

[@ameenshalash9971]

Man i love your videos. They teach me something new every time I watch them . I am currently In the trade school which is part of my high school. And your videos help me a lot . I’m getting ready to wire a house ive been working on . Any suggestions on what code or handbook I should read . Also please continue to make this awesome content . It helps me everyday . 🤜🏽🤛🏽

[@ElectricianU]

Maybe one of these will help: electricianu.com/books/

[@caidhg]

A co-worker said to me once. "How would you do this if this was your mother's house?" And every time I've needed to use it as a compass, it's gone well.

[@KY4TRK]

It all should be done to look neat , tidy and done right which lessons questions later on. But for most part it should always be done to code.

[@DIRTYCHI3F]

The complicated part can be how much time the job is quoted at. If your boss quotes a service and panel swap at 4 hours then just make sure you get it done in that time frame.

[@wvoyles]

i work for a man that drives me nuts,saying "no one will ever see it"...i cant do that,the dude i hold accountable for the job i do,is me.

[@ccasper88]

If the knock outs in a junction box being open are not considered to be neat; one can make the argument that not having a cover on a junction box isn't neat. So, there's that...

[@hedonisticzen]

If you went to interview for your dream electrical job would you want them to see you doing this job this way?

[@kensmith7453]

The last couple video's were related to whether junction boxes needed to be closed with their covers. Couldn't an argument be made that 110.12 Part A indicates those junction boxes "shall be closed to afford protection..."? The box cover is "unused" in that it doesn't have fittings running through it, and it isn't a mounting surface. I'm not sure how to interpret the next part of that sentence about design for listed equipment. Anyway, just a non-electrician's thoughts on the matter. Keep up the great content, I've learned a lot.

[@Lacoste9277]

I like that I've been in commercial so far. It makes trying to make the cleanest work easier cause you aren't under a strict timeline as you would be roughing in a house. I'm a first year apprentice and I've told me self every run and everything I do I am going to do the best I can even if it takes me a little longer, cause eventually I'll get used to it and get quicker and quicker and it'll look good all the time. Also look at your Journeymens work, or your masters work especially when it comes to panel work, some of the work I've seen by my master in panels is amazing, everything is tight, neat 90s going into every breaker it's always fascinating to see a neat panel

[@jacobplank]

In my 4.5 years I've experienced a lot more strict timelines on commercial jobs and more laid back on residential jobs. Probably all depends on the general contractor too. I've get complimented alot for neat and quick work, but I always say it helps if you love what it you do and the more you do it.

[@Lacoste9277]

@@jacobplank I don't know both commercial jobs I've done were more relaxed obviously you still have a time line but it's not needing to be done in 2 days where every rough-in I've been apart of has been expected to be done in two day. But again I'm still only a first year and a lot more learning to do.

[@bronzebuilder2115]

If only this quote also applies to the design and construction of electrical materials, life would be so much happier. Some designs are so bad, you think the person(s) who created should be erased from the human population. They should design with the belief that if something goes wrong, the next guy going maintenance and repair should not have to struggle to make upgrade or changes to the system

[@michaelbaumgardner2530]

I couldn't agree more.

[@ronaldnaeyaert3653]

Good looking work such as parallel conduit runs/Romex runs that are evenly spaced, flat Romex, level/plumb boxes, etc. all point to quality workmanship which makes me think that the stuff that really does matter has been done correctly. Can you show examples of both neat and messy installations?

[@thomasschneeloch6054]

Great video, curious what your opinion is on Flathead plate screws and their orientation as far as leaving your signature. LOL I've always been one to leave plate screws vertical probably more of an OCD issue that I need you to overcome. Love the videos look forward to new content.

[@FreeAmerican-mm2my]

In Massachusetts you can do it how you want. Sloppy is OK.

[@luisloya1120]

Another Great video!!!

[@kevinthompson4690]

At the 7:02 mark do I see either carflex or sealtight being installed on a greenfield flex connector?

[@BIGDTV76]

Nice video sir.watching from phillipine

[@jamesipad204]

2-112 🇨🇦 Quality of work

[@johnnycage6676]

I’m in the middle I understand that you want everything to be neat but sometimes you don’t really have time to especially when your on a tight deadline and your boss needs you to move quick not saying it should be messy but I won’t spend to much time on it.

[@noferblatz]

The key is the inspector. Absolutely correct-- if the work is neat, the inspector will not look so closely and nit-pick fail you. Moreover, you will encounter that inspector again. If you do clean, neat work, future jobs with that inspector will go easier. Inspectors can be real turds, and you don't have a lot of latitude to appeal it.

[@Sparkeycarp]

I am constantly baffled at the track houses that I have worked on that are such spaghetti messes in the panels or J boxes. Many houses with one GFI in the garage servicing 3 bathrooms. K.O.s missing all over. Panels not labeled at all. So many more garbage installs. Who were the AHJs that let this stuff get by?

[@jackhammer9622]

Speaking of craftsmanship. What's your stance on ferrels? They seem to be a standard in Europe. Many drives show up with them from the factory now.

[@ElectricianU]

For most residential applications it's about time invested vs money out. Or what is specced for the build. (If it's new construction.)