Goodalls Organworks9

[@djsherz]

It's Wednesday night, it's amateur Hammond organ recital night - take it away, scutters!

[@digitricks]

17:02-17:22 I am in total agreement with Bob Plimpton! Not even the biggest, loudest and best digital Allen or Rodgers organ can accurately and fully imitate the true feeling and sound of real air vibrating out of real pipes!

[@ajsliter]

I remember when I was taking organ at my Alma Mater after a very terrible experience with a rather abusive Bassoon Professor that didn't want to waste gas to teach me half the time. I haven't played either instrument in a while, due to my current job taking away a lot of free time, but when I was there I remember there being a virtual organ and a practice organ. The practice organ was an old 1980's built Allen with very limited stoplist and abysmal Flutes and Diapason synth (especially at low registers). The Chiff emulation was also disgusting, however the reeds and mutations/mixtures were serviceable. The console itself however was still halfway decent with a very sensitive pedal-board on the AGO spec and the manuals having tracker action touch. The Virtual Organ I had a lot of problems with. The computer inside was terrible leading to delays to when I could call on some stops (Loading times, especially for multiple stops was rather abysmal with hauptwerk) and also the console itself was a big mess. The electronics were of very poor quality which lead to random ciphers in both manuals and dead notes in the pedals that constantly needed manintainence. The sensitivity was not uniform in the pedal and the manuals were piano weighted. Compare that to an Original 1800s era Aeolian Skinner in Caro Michigan any day I dare you. That organ is 100% better than any of the virtual organs I've had to practice on including my home's two manual Johannus from the late 90s/early 2000s; which at least has uniform pedal and manuals sensitivity and halfway decent sampling and intonations (Baroque style, or American Classic Style). My father did have a practice organ in his childhood home, but he couldn't afford to move it from Colorado to Michigan after my grandmother died and he had to sell her house, so he had to sell it to a organ firm. I hope to buy it back one day to keep it in the family and perhaps expand it, or if it was already sold, get an organ that was better than the one dad had that is easier to move than the unit organ dad had.

[@arthurthroovest558]

Huge thanks Howard.... all brill. I did exactly the same experiment in St. Martin's Church, Bull Ring, Birmingham. I had the Rogers electronic church organ franchise and set up a dem with all the local organists. Very cruelly, I got Robin Richmond to mime on the Rogers while the St Martin's chap played their fine pipe organ. You guessed it.... the organist buffs in the pews said the Rogers would never come close to the real thing!!

[@2008truckman]

I was hoping to hear the Allen and the Willis organ play together. I'm a die hard pipe organ fan. But the hybrids have caught my ear.

[@MrKmoconne]

Rest in peace Jacques.

[@riverstun]

I knew someone who knew the tank collector guy!

[@jasondennison9669]

Between the real organ and the electronic organ on the hall I can tell the difference. The pipe organ has more depth and is multi dementinal. The electronic organ lacks the character by far. The digital organ sounds redundant

[@michaelgatien4277]

Does ANYONE know the name of the Polka played at 5:18, I'm dying to know please; thanks

[@MechanicalMusicTravels]

It's "De Kaspische Zee" by Jaak de Voght.

[@michaelgatien4277]

@@MechanicalMusicTravels thanks :D

[@Narayan_1996]

@@MechanicalMusicTravels THANK YOU ^^

[@เรียนภาษาอังกฤษวันนี้]

Again...too bad he didn't visit the Crystal Cathedral, that's the most spectacular organ in the world.

[@Mrsnichols1965]

A real organ in this case has brighter high notes, less booming in the low notes and does exactly what you expect: it moves the air and the building that houses it. Thus the building becomes part of the instrument. The electronic organ vibrates the air, and the building muffles it creating the booming lows, rather than crisp staccatos.

[@luismazon]

According to your comment,.

[@Offshoreorganbuilder]

@@luismazon With which I (and others) agree. The over-emphasis of the pedal notes is a common failing in even today's electronics.

[@Narayan_1996]

Can someone tell me the name of this piece starting from 0:36 to 1:07 ??? PLEASE, HELP ME TO SLEEP IN PEACE WITH THAT!

[@Offshoreorganbuilder]

It appears to be a 'piece' of musical filler, with a bit of the Widor Toccata worked in towards the end. Howard Goodall is a well-known composer of film and TV theme tunes, so my guess is that he wrote it.

[@markcooke729]

Rather insulting to assume that music students would be more discerning than us 'mere mortals' when it comes to being able to detect a digital organ compared to a pipe organ, especially if they're not organ students. I don't have a degree in music, but as an organist I can tell the difference between the two. A musician with a degree is to be lauded of course, but an organist or enthusiast who knows their music well will know the difference.

[@luismazon]

Agree with you. The early digital technology in the organs was different in comparation today, for example the sound de reed stop is easy the hearing to know the difference in sound between a electronic organ and pipe organ.

[@davidwelch6796]

Mark please don't be insulted. As Howard Goodall explained this was not a scientific test but a light hearted demonstration of how good electronic organs can be. The panel of music students were chosen because they were of an age when their hearing was still very good and they were used to listening closely to many types of music. They were not superior to mere mortals but were probably harder to fool than say a party of mixed age people from a variety of different walks of life. I was present during this demonstration as I was the sound recordist and both organs were recorded in exactly the same way but of course the pipe organ was emitting sound from a large area of pipes whilst the electronic organ was emitting sound from much smaller loudspeakers of high quality. People listening to the test on domestic televisions or computer audio systems after the original recordings have been through any number of processes between recording on location and their playback at home are doing well to tell the difference between the two performances correctly. I suspect that if the recording of the electronic organ was inserted into a sequence of recordings of different pipe organs then its electronic origins would have been much harder to discern. That said I would far rather attend a recital played on a pipe organ than an electronic organ. I doff my cap to all organists who have mastered playing the king of instruments.

[@NJPurling]

The synthesizer is nothing new either. Hammond made one in the 1944 just months before 'D' Day. The Hammond Novachord has 163 Coke bottle tubes & uses over 300 watts of power. Well, now there is Hauptwerk. But it requires an extremely powerful & dedicated computer to run it. It is a sampled sound, but a 'wet' sample. So it has everything you would experience at the location of the organ. There are sample sets of some very old organs, but I don't know if there are sets for any Spanish baroque intruments so you could play Batallas in a reasonably authentic way. I would bet there are some Wurlitzer sample sets as well as the usual stuff like the Hereford Cathedral Willis organ.

[@JixYT02]

omg Howard Goodall looks like Bill Clinton