Goodbye Cartier Drive and the Drive Extra-Flat

[@flyingsomm]

I love my Drive de Cartier. Hopefully in time it will become a collectors piece.

[@iaido01]

Knowing cartier. I probably will.

[@HarryJoiner]

that's actually sick. no date, no seconds hand. it doesn’t get much better than that.

[@simontvrner]

elegant but quirky piece. Some value there on the secondary market. Piaget movement in a Cartier case for sub $3500 would never disappoint.

[@chia-mingyang5804]

I own the same movement (Santos Dumont). Fantastic winding action and great accuracy. No any complaint at all.

[@marvinberwart]

Congrats on the new ennemies, I paid ridiculous amounts for custom straps until I reached basically the same conclusion.

[@YoureTerrific]

I’ve also learned many things the hard way, especially about KZbin comments.

[@florianhess]

@@jimhim585For value custom straps i rec Etsy and leather artisans in Vietnam and Turkey. For ready-to-wear straps i'd suggest to look at German brands Fluco and Rios 1931.

[@typebflieger]

I love Cartier. Their watches are beautiful objects that for some reason never seem to click with me when I try them on. This doesn’t lessen my appreciation of Cartier, in fact, it does the opposite. They don’t pander all that much, and generally challenge you to adapt to them. I love brands that take that approach. Not to mention the imagination and fortitude it takes to riff on the same design themes for over a century… and still keep things fresh. Much respect to this brand.

[@francescoa1695]

ciao Type B Flieger! I agree with what you wrote about Cartier timepieces, but I still "discovered" that love at first sight with such a historic and fascinating brand and design is always born over time... when you put it on your wrist and wind it up every morning, it always takes you moreover. Sometimes the passion and love for the watch goes beyond our style patterns and dynamics. I will take a Cartier because it has a unique and iconic history, identity and charm. Having it on your wrist I'm sure it will give a lot of satisfaction! Francesco :-)

[@typebflieger]

Hi, Francesco. I completely agree with you. It’s not just about the design. Most of my watches have some sort of historical significance or story attached to them. I’ll find my way to Cartier eventually, but I haven’t found that particular piece just yet. It’s good to hear your positive experience, as it will motivate me to further explore the brand. Cheers!

[@francescoa1695]

@@typebflieger Ciao and thanks for writing. Choosing a watch (beyond the cost) is knowing how to choose that accessory that reflects us and is able to convey what we are and "project". Happy hunting and have fun!

[@eyeheartsushi2212]

You have perfectly articulated my feelings towards Cartier. Feels good to know I’m not the only one.

[@Safetytone]

My only real critique of this watch, after I tried it on, was there was no real motivation to walk past all the other incredible watches in its price range to choose the Cartier... feels like they missed a beat with this... pun intended... P.S. please can you drop more content, for me, your the best watch KZbin channel out here...

[@YoureTerrific]

Listen to the podcast I was on yesterday. podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-110-youreterrific/id1555339095?i=1000589808211 open.spotify.com/episode/4WEZTFfYGZM34zC22yMTsJ

[@UltraDoug]

@@YoureTerrific 😮 ok, gonna give that a listen.

[@IsaacBentley]

I have the Drive Retrograde version and I love it. Works with business casual or as a dress watch. Extremely legible dial and all the guilloche details on the silvered dial to admire and pass the time when I’m stuck in work meetings. But it is not for the itty bitty wrist committee.

[@jomni]

I'm still wearing my moon phase. True. The dial looks really big due to the shape despite 40mm and sub-40mm sizes. A round dial on a cushion case would have less white space and more metal. But still the watch is lovely. Thought of selling it off many times but I still have it after all these years.

[@realalexmackenzie]

I would still consider it. I don't yet have a Cartier in the rapidly growing collection, so this might fit the bill. Can't agree with the $50 watch strap observation though. I have gone full custom for my own collection, so price point is up ~$200 depending on material. However, even buying ready to wear, $50 is going to put you into some pretty cheap materials. There is a big difference between pressed gator pattern on cheap leather, and the real thing. Not every watch needs higher end material, but to have a hard cut-off at $50 is going to cause one to miss out on some great straps.

[@StudioHeadmade]

Nice, your script at 00:33 brought me back to that nostalgic Internet Explorer ad. The one that brings us back to the 90’s.

[@telce8]

On the contrary to many, I feel the drive de Cartier has so much characters and there are many instances when I was wearing it and people were attracted to it! From the video the watch looks beautiful in all angles and it sits perfectly on your wrist!

[@L.A.C_Santos]

I think it’s a beautiful sport elegant watch and it was a fantastic drive watch just as it was. Cartier knew it. But people are not Cartier designers and good taste is like common sense, very uncommon. A ver lightweight, comfortable, slim, interesting watch, manual wind, sporty, classy, fun to wear, different watch.

[@louisbrandt5386]

I completely agree regarding the straps - I have a couple under $50 and they are excellent, beautifully made pieces.

[@ivanharlokin]

It's a really lovely watch. Not wishing to be 'that guy', but one of the things that dissuaded me from getting one is that I see it as a 'dressy sports watch', and for that I feel that 3 ATM water resistance is not enough. In the end I bought a Radiomir 574 instead, but had the Cartier Drive even had 5 ATM, I might have got it instead.

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

It's funny that you brought this watch up. It was on my list for ages as one I thought I wanted, but every time I put it on it just didn't or something else caught my eye.It supposedly had everything and yet it didn't. Great vid as always 🙂

[@skepticaljesus]

Why is this channel the only watch review content that's funny? Lots of other great content creators, but none that I would say really even strive for humor in their content. It's a weirdly dry and humorless hobby, sometimes. Which is to say, this channel is great and I appreciate the level of craft in the writing and the aesthetics of the presentation :)

[@YoureTerrific]

Because nobody is as foolhardy as I.

[@wesleylu7383]

6:10 Bro the Ballon Bleu is probably the single most popular ladies watch in Asia.

[@StagguhLee]

I really enjoyed this video and have enjoyed many of your others. Thank you for making them.

[@kosmar]

watching this the fifth time. not sure why. really dig your narration. and the drive.

[@markikn3183]

Good vid. You're right, the Drive has dropped off the map, but as Cartier is selling boatloads of Tank and Santos, I doubt they're sweating it. Your last comment made me think "Drive Must Solar". On a nice matt tan croc strap so you don't spend another fifty.

[@YoureTerrific]

I don't expect more solar watches from Cartier anytime soon. They don't seem to be able to produce the tech at scale.

[@badazzcanbe]

In LOVE with this line. Specifically the drive moonphase in rose gold 👌🏾 WGNM0008

[@loxxrider]

Great video, great watch, and honestly if Cartier would have paired it with a strap like that from the factory, maybe it would have done better! Definitely gives it a more sporty feel compared to the blue alligator.

[@thedaveaftertomorrow]

The Extra Flat is a beautiful watch, hope it remains a sleeper with reasonable-ish prices 🙏

[@YoureTerrific]

I suspect it will.

[@ReadyAimFire_]

I really like the shape, something original. Cartier has so many awesome pieces, and yet all are quite elegant and similar.

[@tim462]

I definitely prefer the Cartier Ronde 36mm.

[@Geniusclicks]

great find… better than all the rolex this, rolex that youtubers… we do love rolex BUT only ones with insightful commentary not the click bait…. congrats on great content

[@MARKO2465]

I purchased the Drive small complications and love it.... it will def be a collectable Cartier in the near future.

[@saodavi6267]

The Drive should have been targeted squarely at the steel sportswatch crowd (AP Royal Oak, GP Laureato, Zenith Defy). Under 10mm thin, 100m of WR, screwdown crown, lume an excellent steel bracelet, able to be purchased at retail. Positioning it as an oversized dress watch is a missed opportunity.

[@YoureTerrific]

I agree. But I guess the Santos kinda does that, especially the DLC ones.

[@saodavi6267]

@YoureTerrific I would agree with that. Mainly with the "kinda" part. I don't feel that the Santos quite captures that ethos as strongly as other makers.

[@btmontres1423]

IMHO the extra flat was the best sized and proportioned model. Alas, the other models were too big, but redemption was never far away because of this gem. Love the tan suede and fits great on you. Looks tailored, refined, and extols a little gravitas to its wearer. Handwound and who could ask for more.

[@TheTownWatch]

So clean!

[@sylinmino]

To me, it was the right watch at the wrong time: a new elegant men's dress watch (maybe not one of Cartier's best, but still cool) released at a time when sports watches are all the rage. It's also now competing with the 2018 Santos AND the 2020 Santos Dumont, the 40mm Ballon Bleu (which I own, and it's freaking brilliant), the revived Pasha de Cartier, and the Must de Cartier. So it was nice...but what do you do when the rest of Cartier's collection in that price range is so lit right now?

[@simonyu8838]

I've been tempted by the black small seconds since I first saw it on video. The only things holding me back were the water resistance and coming on a leather strap instead of something more sweat resistant. Instead I ended up going for a Santos in blue. On that watch, the darker color helps tame the visual size and that's also why I'm tempted to look for a preowned black Drive. It might need to wait a bit as I did just pick up a USA edition Alain Silberstein x Louis Erard regulator and Glashutte Originale Panomatic Lunar in white. On a related note, it's a bit scary how quickly the KZbin algorithm started recommending your videos recently and who closely our tastes seem to align

[@SkywhiteChannel]

I like the shape and love the thinness. To me this watch always intrigued me.

[@sabeaniebaby]

This makes me sad; I love this watch and hoped to own one one day

[@YoureTerrific]

Now is your chance.

[@sabeaniebaby]

@@YoureTerrific Not if I haven't got the funds at the moment.

[@Rosay__]

The Drive is a very cool piece - one that I tried on several times. But I never pulled the trigger (or even came close it). So, I guess that proves your point (sorta). It was a great piece to try on at the AD but not to own. Also - it's hard today to see how someone tries on a Santos and a Drive...and doesn't choose that Santos.

[@chasemer6]

I just learned about this watch from this video. I’m not a Cartier guy, but this one strangely works for me.

[@eyeheartsushi2212]

Same

[@pizautube]

Hey there, congrats on the video. I joust bought a Drive black dial and I would like your recommendations for straps. Regards from Brazil

[@mitchmitchell9588]

You and your Cartier watches. Can’t tell if you love or hate them. It’s like a bad Korean drama. This watch is cool and your conclusions are good ones. I’m surprised you didn’t mention the Roadster (or was I not paying attention). Speaking of paying attention, did you see how your followers sang your praises on Watchfinder? We give you ish but we enjoy your videos. Keep going.

[@YoureTerrific]

I did see that! I'm grateful and a little confused that people would advocate for me. I'm one lucky nerd.

[@dingodave3966]

Evan, hope you’re feeling well mate. You sound well…🤷‍♂️ Cartier, I’m not there yet mate, someday… Santos perhaps, I like the dive watch for something left of centre. Be strong. ❤

[@panayiotiskyriacou5118]

loved this watch when it was released in 2016. managed to buy it last year (the small seconds one) and i'm not letting go. great size, great guilloche dial, domed crystal, simple elegant thin light, curves case pedigree.. perfect.. oh keeps excellent time as well :)

[@YoureTerrific]

I adore that guilloche dial. Well done.

[@wastedaga1n]

Can a watch become public domain after 70 years like copyright material?

[@YoureTerrific]

Possibly

[@MpSSpeaker]

How is it to wound this watch with this crown?

[@YoureTerrific]

Yes. Manually wound.

[@MpSSpeaker]

​@@YoureTerrific Sorry I didn't make a clear statement: the Cartier crowns are usually very sharp and not pleasant to use in my experience. I can't imagine using such a crown for hand-winding a watch every day. Is it a nice feeling winding this watch up?

[@YoureTerrific]

@@MpSSpeaker This one is fine. Much better than the Tank Americaine 1741 for example. Much, much better.

[@fallingwatersnz]

If you remember where you got that strap, please let me know :)

[@GEMINICT]

It looks so good with the tan strap on your wrist.

[@nathanmagnuson2589]

Holy crap, these are an absolute bargain right now

[@fire_watch7735]

My favourite Cartier along with the Santos. Cheers

[@blackbob1977]

That was only a male Cartier line, may be because of size which is big.

[@nickrosenbeck4306]

I was obsessed with this model... until I saw it in person. Wayyy bigger than it looks in pictures.

[@ihadtomakethisbs]

I was considering the small seconds version but thought it might be too dressy. Then they discontinued it and I didn't have to stress about it anymore. Thanks Cartier I guess lol

[@guillaumeschirra7699]

Good video ! We can feel that you love it ! It tried one in 2016 and didn’t purchase it, it just looked too big on my wrist. Did Cartier reduce the diameter after the introduction ? I had 42 mms in mind, originally. Thanks for the video. Subscribed !

[@patjnic]

You can get a decent pair of full grain horween boots for a few hundred dollars, but apparently a couple of strips of the same leather cost >$100 when you attach them to a watch

[@avijami]

Dude - i was trying to find the right time to buy this, and now this video is out, I am sure that any grey market negotiation that I had hoped for, is all but gone.

[@YoureTerrific]

Sorry

[@avijami]

@@YoureTerrific you are making interesting watches cool again

[@topher.m]

I believe the shape is ‘squoval’

[@YoureTerrific]

Love a good portmanteau.

[@topher.m]

@@YoureTerrific touché. BTW loved the interview on The Wrong Advice.

[@robcameron9351]

Not a huge fan of Cartier in general. But, I think that’s the best looking Cartier I’ve seen…

[@underachievingwatchcollect1878]

Happy holidays Evan🎄!

[@YoureTerrific]

Thanks. Happy everything to you.

[@justthepip]

This was the first Cartier I ever seriously considered, but I found it disappointingly large (and I generally prefer a larger watch), due to the tiny bezel and super-wide dial aperture. Really beautiful dimensions and thinness otherwise.

[@YoureTerrific]

Oversized sports watch: 👍 Oversized dress watch: 👎 … Oversized sports dress: 🔥

[@lefroy1]

It's a beautiful watch. I'd like to've seen a few shots of it on the OEM navy alligator.

[@mikaxms]

I click to watch a video about a Cartier, and then I look at the Explorer whenever it's on screen. Nothing beats the Rolex Explorer XD.

[@craig2100]

It's actually a great watch that has been surpassed by redesigned and other new watches. It may come back as all good things do

[@ItsNeverTooHot4Leather]

Once you get a cordovan strap on your wrist, then......then my young apprentice, you will understand why some straps cost >$100 yet are worth every penny.

[@YoureTerrific]

The truth is we all prioritize things differently. For some, it's worth it. For me, nah. I've had several shell cordovan straps.

[@redhaharfouch8519]

Crypto comment was…terrific!!

[@UltraDoug]

Every time I see this watch I think, “oooo cool” and the 10 min later I think, “hmm….meh”. It just misses the mark for what Cartier is. Also, what Watch were you wearing while you were reviewing this? Couldn’t make it out.

[@eyeheartsushi2212]

Bracelet looked like a Tudor. Maybe the BB58.

[@davidd1016]

Well done... love the strap comment .... i wear my 1016 explorer on a $15 perlon strap :)

[@basselamjad958]

This gives me all black Mercedes Maybach vibes.Cartier is absolute Class!

[@brianpemberton6705]

Personally, I think its one of the more appealing designs of Cartier, now its discontinued it definitely on my wish list

[@scwazrh]

And now they are available again .What is going on with Cartier ?

[@jeanvital]

i lov this watch , i dont understand why Cartier decided to stop it !

[@bdg5593]

No mention of the sunburst dial :(

[@Matthieu5555]

Im guessing they are discontinuing it because they don't sell it ?

[@YoureTerrific]

Depends on the dealer. Some are.

[@Spit87]

Such a beautiful watch. I almost bought one but ended up with the Longines L26994232 as it was much cheaper. Check that one out, it's an underrated/unknown beauty. Very similar cushion shape but 36mm so wears like a dream

[@YoureTerrific]

Lovely piece

[@draganbalzic4493]

I wish Maison Cartier issued these in rose gold with a black dial as I had my stainless steel model plated, and it was a complete disaster.

[@heathwasson7811]

That's a shame. It's the only line of Cartier watches I had any interest in.

[@housekarl5786]

...enjoyed the review...to the point.

[@john_miller_]

love when the (rendered) product pictures have a missaligned datewheel 👌😄

[@swizzmamba8912]

I’ve been a fan of this one for a while, I love the thinness of the watch.

[@YoureTerrific]

Super thin. Maybe it has an eating disorder.

[@Nefville]

Why is my only takeaway about straps? Oh right because this watch is forgettable. Which brings me back to my original point, straps! I agree $50 bucks, unless you want something fancy like gator top and bottom or strange materials like eel calf or narwhal cub leather. That I get, paying for materials, otherwise you're mostly getting it right up the 😶

[@Pineconeboy55]

That not quite square not quite a circle is not quite good.

[@SinnerAndSaint]

Besides your great video and very interesting opinion about the Drive I would really like to thank you for your statement regarding straps > $50. I still laugh about brands that sell OEM straps for $200-$300... I just don't get it. Yeah I love a great strap but c`mon... if you want to see THE absurdity take a look at Hublot's velcro (!) straps that are selling for 770€ (!!) in Europe 🤣🤣

[@YoureTerrific]

If people want to spend that much, I'm not going to stop them. I just don't think they need to. I'm sure people think the same thing about the watches I buy. And those people are not wrong.

[@roycedot]

Love the design

[@satai]

Thx for the strap-statement.

[@SuperWhofan1]

Nicest case design from Cartier in decades

[@anton1_]

I kinda dig the watch a lot so I hope others don’t like it so the price goes down and I can snatch one up haha

[@YoureTerrific]

I'm gonna need a 95% discount on this one

[@fabreezethefaintinggoat5484]

Would you review something like the Garmin instinct ,a watch the can a function as a ultra complex tool watch if need be. I would recommend the smaller size although i have the regular in blue

[@YoureTerrific]

That'd be fun and might force me to leave the house to test.

[@HRM.H]

Luckily orphan watches are some of my favorite

[@YoureTerrific]

Orphans need love too.

[@WparuSlowach]

Shape it looks similar to Farer Cusion Case watch.

[@david12990]

I would buy a Cartier just for the darn box!!

[@Tom-zv9kt]

simple, they discontinued it, because Cartier is the king of design, and thet want to try something new.. They will discontinue great watches to push themselves harder. Unlike rolex

[@watchchimp3102]

Well, if they drop it, they create demand from the FOMO crowd, drive up the prices on the secondary market, transform it into some legendary icon, and then re-release it to much fanfare and higher prices later. I guess it'll also allow them to concentrate on other models in the short term. 🤔

[@YoureTerrific]

"Drive" up prices.

[@akinigiri]

Ah, I finally know what it looks like, it looks like the Rolex Danaos!!

[@davidemarsu7098]

They killed my favorite Cartier...

[@YoureTerrific]

BUY BUY BUY

[@davidemarsu7098]

@@YoureTerrific out of budget out of budget out of budgeeet😭😭😭

[@chrishennemeyer7276]

As you likely know, the Cartier "Tortue" takes its name from the French word for a tortoise. Perfectly branded.

[@YoureTerrific]

Indeed

[@fabreezethefaintinggoat5484]

Reminiscență of the Chaumet Dandy

[@wiwatchguy8798]

I have the Drive Extra-Flat (c’mon Cartier, you couldn’t have come up with something more interesting than “extra flat”?) and I love it. I have the rose gold version and paid not much over what the steel MSRP was. I was absolutely motivated by price, but after getting it I realized how nice it was. The dial is great in person. The strap and pin buckle are nice too and you get that iconic crown. While I wouldn’t have paid MSRP, getting it for a little over 1/3 of that I was very happy. Still kicking myself for not getting it in white gold at almost the same great discounted price… I agree the standard editions seem too big, but the Extra-Flats were fantastic. I do really like the dial of the Dual TIme though. Overall, I think the Drive was meant to be a “driving” watch. Perhaps the size and shape were all about legibility while driving? Hard to say. I noticed much earlier this year the Drive was pretty off the Cartier site. I welcome it as I would imagine it was quite limited in production. Hopefully they destroyed excess stock too. I’m curious to see valuations in the future and would love to get John Goldberger’s take on the Drive.

[@tiansili]

wow an actually funny watch youtuber, nice

[@cmg799]

Damn d I want one of these…

[@vdbdg]

It's really not bad. A bit bland compared to their other designs perhaps. But if you get a good deal, it's at least one that's not been produced in large numbers.

[@vincentschneuwly9783]

Myself I am really dreaming about the Roadster line coming back 🤞🤞🤞

[@UnbiasedBoss]

Alas, today's a good day

[@LambGiles]

Opening music almost as dodgy as the cardigans, but the content bang on as always ... 👏

[@YoureTerrific]

Does dodgy mean something different across the pond, m8?

[@LambGiles]

@@YoureTerrific Cor blimey .... You'll be safe. Just don't get it confused with dogging .....

[@rodsalvador3608]

If it's Cartier Tank, shouldn't this Cartier...Car?