Caught red handed | How youtubers cut dovetails

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

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[@HarisWoodshop]

“Sharp chisels. No paint can openers.” 🤣👌

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

They know who they are haha

[@brezocnikmichael]

My cheap crappy chisels are the best can openers 😅

[@michaelthompson5875]

So my wife isn't the only one who waits until AFTER I leave the room and go upstairs to the other end of the house to ask a question at the same volume she'd use if I were standing next to her? Good to know. Great video! Thanks!

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

Haha, you are not alone. Glad you enjoyed it!

[@stefanformgren4978]

its a wife thing to always talk low 2-3rooms away🤣

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

@@stefanformgren4978 they must meet as a group to decide all these behaviors haha

[@stefanformgren4978]

@@TimberBiscuitWoodworks i always suspected the dark web but its just rumors :)

[@PorkChopSammie]

The most talented wood worker I’ve ever known told me once: “fine woodworking is 20% building things and 80% fixing what you just f***ed up” Ability and experience at fixing problems is a sign of a master craftsman: they’ve been there, done that, made those mistakes. My dad is the craftsman in question. He also taught me most of the swear words I know.

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

Your father seems like a wise man, failure is a great motivator.

[@JohnMorris-rd8vb]

one and done. I am just not good enough to do things properly... Thanks for the clear direction and inspiration.

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

You know that's about how I feel too haha. Not a problem, glad you enjoyed it.

[@mattelias721]

Test. And I know I typically equivocate on your questions, but yeah, testing, which reminds me I need to save up for a shoulder plane. I'd love a pantorouter, but damn that thing costs more than my table saw did brand new. [insert sad, pouty face here] You did definitely get out of the norm here, and I'm certain Norm is happy you're no longer in him. I don't have the wife's mumblequestion from across the house, but I do endure her starting a new sentence just as I'm walking away, over and over, normally when my bladder needs the water changed out. Looking forward to the next part!

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

Glad to hear it! I have slowly but surely been adding planes to my arsenal and it has been more than worth it. And I feel like I get that more from my son - he's just always has something to say haha

[@loco4pack]

Testing and one and done. I prefer to do a test first, but sometimes I get lazy and just send it and hope it works. I just found your channel and really enjoyed this video. Well done, and yes I subscribed.

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

I hear ya there haha sometimes you just have to go all in. Thanks for watching, and welcome to the channel!

[@marshallmurrell4583]

Testing. I don't have a jointer, so I use either a tapering jig on the table saw for shorter boards or a #7 or both. For longer boards, there are other methods for jointing an edge on the table saw. When jointing with a hand plane, you can achieve the same thing as the I/O method by putting the same faces of the two adjoining boards together and claimping them in the vice and planing them together. I used this method recently on a nine foot long walnut dining table and it worked well.

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

Yeah, I like the In-Out method at the jointer for larger board but will clamp them together for shorter ones and joint them with the number seven. I haven’t tried anything over 48 inches at the bench though, glad to hear you have found success with the longer timber.

[@marshallmurrell4583]

@@TimberBiscuitWoodworks Another method I learned from Rob Cosman is to put the longer board on a flat surface; put another board under it but a little bit back from the edge of the work piece; clamp them both down and then use your plane like on a shooting board. If you have an assembly table or work bench that is really flat, that works really well.

[@educatedrobotconsumer7219]

One and done has been what I've tended to do for a while now, but I realise I should be testing at least testing more often.

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

Yeah it really depends on how important the part is and how long it would take to remake. Haha

[@robwiencek9608]

Testing! Every time. I’m too new and inexperienced to try to nail a cut first try. I always measure twice cut once, measure again, cut again and repeat until it ends up too small 😂😂

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

Haha, that sounds pretty familiar.

[@andreasmeerkamp8627]

I use epoxy to fill cracks and stabilize the wood, works great

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

Yeah, epoxy works awesome for filling cracks. It doesn’t stabilize quite as well as other options unless it’s inside of vacuum. But that’s on a case by case basis.

[@warrenfroggatt8306]

I have been enjoying the jointer plane run as last step for some time. It's not necessary all the time, however, I have found with deep pore wood like oak the plane removes the pore edge tearout from the jointer. Also, my jointer can leave ripples that are enough I always seem to get a tighter jointer plane. So #7 jointer gets used always. . . . plus, it's just a cool size jointer to use 🤣

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

I wholeheartedly agree with your assessment. And yeah, White Oak can be a battle when it comes to tear out.

[@dobystrock9404]

Test - This is a sweet project! I love how well thought out every detail is. You're really a talented dude and one of my favorite to watch. Thanks for sharing as always. Excited to see how this turns out.

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

Thanks man! I'm really happy to hear that. Glad to have your support.

[@AndyLee-rc8wx]

Test. Dude, this piece is awesome! I love the low and long design you decided to go with and I really dig the curves on the sides. Your work continues to impress, definitely in my top five woodworking channels on KZbin, I still don’t understand how this channel hasn’t blown up. Keep it up!

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

Thank you so much for your kind words and support!

[@theofarmmanager267]

Test. I’m interested why you - and it seems a lot of US woodworkers - do not use more veneered plywood or MDF. For large panels, I find it easier and much cheaper (in the UK) to buy veneered than solid. I understand that I need to add solid edges for most parts but that’s no big deal. I know that good quality timber in the UK seems to be more expensive than in the US so perhaps that is a contributory factor. I’m not sure if MDF is greener than solid. It obviously uses “dust” that would otherwise be scrapped but, then again, it uses a lot of glue which isn’t exactly a green product.

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

I go back and forth between the two. It really just depends on the situation and design for me. If I feel like hardwood will elevate the project then I go that route. Price is definitely an added factor too. When I’m building pieces I budget for both ply and hardwood and as long as the hardwood version isn’t significantly more expensive, I tend to lean towards that version.

[@ManjiramVirash]

You make it look so easy. I have a hard time just getting two boards to line up.

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

Haha, we've all been there.

[@12StringDave]

Test...I'm slowly gaining experience building furniture/ cabinets. A big step from my previous 2x4 and sheetrock experiences . Got a lot of good tips from the video but I'm 70 so I'll probably only remember a few :) Thanks, looking forward to more of your vids !!

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

I work construction in my early 20s and it took me a while to get into furniture but it’s been a nice change of pace. I appreciate your support. Thanks for watching.

[@kevinb6102]

This is gonna be my new fav build of yours! Already amazing

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

Thanks, man!

[@sarinhighwind]

I like how you addressed that crack. Shouldnt be noticeable as well!

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

I wont tell if you don't

[@tatehogan5685]

One and done, but with some hesitancy. I usually leave my parts with plenty of room to trim down

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

Good call!

[@jeremyfmoses]

Neither testing nor one and done - not a wood worker here! Anyway, I always shout out the Pentel P205 when I see one. Solid choice for a pencil!

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

Easily the best pencil in the game.

[@cdnbean]

One & Done - however i'm a complete newb - so it might change after some terrible mishap (although I do like to mark it on the piece that's going there instead of using a tape measure to transfer the cutline - that seems to eliminate a lot of my previous errors)

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

Referential measurement is definitely the way to go so you’re on the right track!

[@TheWeekendWoodshop]

Test...I've done one and done and almost always regretted it. Those drawer boxes are looking great. Keep up the fantastic work 😁

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

The one in done method causes so much stress haha. Even when you’re positive it’s perfect. Thank you!

[@howieblack8958]

Test 1-2-3 then I’m usually good to go lol. Excellent execution, and concept with this piece. I really enjoyed watching the first part come together. Those dovetail drawer boxes turned out super clean! Excited to see part 2!

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

Thank you very much! Glad you enjoyed it.

[@steveshapland8846]

If you joint 2 boards at once with your #7 the in/out happens automatically.

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

Yeah I do that with smaller board but larger ones are tough to get aligned some times so I just use the jointer for those.

[@vmoutsop]

Testing: My favorite is when she’s trying to have a conversation from 2 rooms away and it’s your fault you can’t hear 😂

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

Haha, who else would be to blame?

[@kpedro161]

Test!! Excellent craftsmanship as always my friend! Keep up the great work.

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

Thanks so much, I really appreciate it!

[@nathanielsnyder1511]

I finally bought the Pantorouter today. Stoked for it to arrive! Sweet design and build per usual

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

Hell yeah, you’re going to love it. Thanks man, I really appreciate it.

[@jaron1990]

why don't you put some scrap pieces on both sides of your stock when routing the dovetails? might help with tearout

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

That's not a bad idea, I've considered doing it, but I'm just not sure it's worth the added time for how often it actually occurs.

[@Gazman299]

Mostly one and done. It's just my nature. Nice build, young man. ( No complaining about body aches until you're at least in your sixties :-)

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

Thank you! Haha, I’ll have to remember that next time!

[@jimaspinii7579]

Wright two … love it! 🤓👍

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

Haha!

[@rickreed123]

in addition to domino or biscuits, splines work great for keeping boards aligned during glue up, especially if slots are cut with router references from show faces.

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

Agreed, splines are another great alternative.

[@jamesjenkins779]

Test, cut again, test, cut again, too short! PS: your smooth one liners and jokes are delivered with great timing!

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

Haha, we've all been there! I appreciate it, my notes list of jokes is getting pretty lengthy at this point, so there's a lot more coming.

[@Milosz_Sosnowski]

Testing - for most parts in my projects, sometimes it takes a few minutes to get the perfect size of piece that i cut

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

It’s a lot easier than having to remake parts that’s for sure

[@1deerndingo]

I find using the jointing plane improves the joint

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

I completely agree!

[@newdutchworkshop7026]

One & done, though that didn't really start until I got a fully digital slider and planer. If something doesn't, I know it's either my design/drawing or a having set the machine up wrong. Fine tuning with hand tools is very powerful though!

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

I wish I had the space for a slider. Maybe one day!

[@mikewhittington3451]

Testing for sure

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

This is the way

[@johnnyho900]

One and done! Beautiful build, coming along nicely!

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

Thanks mate!

[@derjunge8224]

Test and One and done. It depends on how critical the cut I'm about to make and how many times I've yelled "Oh for F&*$ sake" that day.

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

Haha, this is the correct answer

[@robertellenwood]

Great job! “Testing”

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

Thank you!

[@tomm3082]

Test - gonna have to invest in a shoulder plane.....

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

Game changer

[@bmacaulay18]

Test. Stop "apologizing" for using a Domino. You are already using a Festool track saw, a Festool sander, a PantoRouter and of course a domino. There are only two kinds of woodworkers. Those who have a Festool Domino, and those that don't have one yet.

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

I’m not so much apologizing as giving alternatives but sorry not sorry haha

[@Tallstreehouse]

There's a third kind actually, those who don't have a planer or jointer :))

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

Don’t forget that “yet” haha

[@moehoward01]

There's also the kind that will NEVER own a Festool product because they're ludicrously over-priced.

[@bmacaulay18]

@@moehoward01 I thought that once. Not too long ago actually. The most valuable lesson I learned was it’s ok to be wrong, it’s not ok to stay wrong.

[@JayBergCustoms]

I recently purchased a Leigh D4R Pro dovetail jig, and tried making a white oak 25" deep, 26" wide drawer on Salice F70 push to open slides. I don't know if its because the drawer is so heavy or if I screwed something up...but neither the push to open nor the soft close work lol. Maybe I shouldn't have gone so big on my first try.

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

Oh man that’s a bummer. For what it’s worth the Blum ones are good but really expensive.

[@adquick7298]

One and done. Are the lie nielsen planes worth the money? I've looked into them a bit, but I'm unsure because of the price.

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

I love them. They are pricey, but they’re so well-made.

[@dpmeyer4867]

thanks

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

Thanks for watching!

[@promilachoudhary2293]

great work, can't wait to see how it turns out

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

Thank you

[@Kosh42EFG]

Test. Gotta love an excuse to whip out the No7.

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

Those are the best days

[@stlwoodworking]

One and done....and testing lol. Depends on the project.... most times that is followed by I wish I had..... lol

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

Unfortunately, I know that feeling!

[@DamianDArienzo]

Test when possible, one and done if necessary. Nice build, but your crosscut blade needs a serious clean :)

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

Thank you, haha you’re right about that!

[@tonyborzumato8510]

Test - lumber is too expensive to waste on stupid mistakes. It's nice to see someone who builds "real world"... and by that, I mean the synergistic combination of modern power tools combined with old-world hand tools. I find that to be the best combination of efficiency and hands-on craftsmanship. I'm not saying that power tools, set up correctly, won't give excellent results on their own... but they don't instill the same pride in the final result as working the wood by hand (woodWORKING?). Nice vid.

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

I completely agree! The blend of modern and traditional techniques really brings out the best in woodworking. It's all about finding that perfect balance!

[@fcschoenthal]

One and done - I've considered the PantoRouter, and they're also running a special on the Pro kit. Do you use the additional accessories that are included in the All-in-one kit? - Chris

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

Yeah man, I went with the all in one kit. There are a ton of useful bits and templates with that one.

[@WoodworkingTop535]

good job

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

Thanks you!

[@sethhamilton5824]

The clip is the jig for the movento clips.

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

Yeah the instructions I had weren’t clear on that unfortunately. The set I had only used the clip for setting the tip on feature depth.

[@tektrixter]

testing ensures a correct fit

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

Amen to that

[@rustyneedle_uk2179]

testing. liked, subed and commented :) thank you for the content

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

I greatly appreciate the support mate! Welcome to the channel!

[@chucklesthewondermonkey]

Testing every time... never one-and-done.

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

This is the way

[@Pawan_sahu598]

Love the channel, thanks for sharing!

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

Thank you for watching!

[@SamWanamaker1]

If jointing the edges with the hand plane, no need to waste your time with the in out jointing method. You’re immediately eliminating that effort by using the hand plane. But I do agree hand plane will give a real nice edge to glue up.

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

I find it just faster to just toss them on the jointer. But either one works

[@SamWanamaker1]

@@TimberBiscuitWoodworks no I agree. I’m saying doing both is counterintuitive. You’re eliminating the work of the other by doing both. Just a tip to save some time, that’s all.

[@sanghoonlee7214]

Always thanks very much for impressive video =) !! BTW, I really interesting your mechanical pencil with white lead(?) at 8:41. Could you give me the information of magical pencil?😀

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

Thank you for watching! Here’s a link to the chalk pencil: www.amazon.com/dp/B004M5BGD4/ref=cm_sw_r_as_gl_api_gl_i_T4NFHRK2QKGZ60ABPTM3?linkCode=ml2&tag=timberbiscuit-20

[@airnashville3883]

Test: I like to cut oversized and use a shooting board to make it perfect

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

That would be the way to go, I just need to make one large enough for cabinet parts.

[@innocuous_name7212]

I think you and I both have the same son with the same room that makes itself messy.

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

Haha, it is a never ending cycle

[@michaelcoslop3171]

$2000!!! I’ll keep hand cutting my dovetails. It really doesn’t take much time.

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

All tools are an investment but again it does a heck of a lot more than just dovetails

[@gutierreza34]

Testing

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

1 2 3

[@DaddyBooneDon]

It's not a big-ass plane... it's a plane with a big ass. There's a difference

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

Perfect for smoothing out big cheeky projects.

[@torbenbop1965]

9:40 hehe

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

It’s just plane fun

[@O_______________O]

typically using wood is recommended when woodworking

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

This is true

[@erichelton1888]

Honestly have never seen any KZbin woodworker use one of these until now. Nice use of clickbait for an ad tho

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

You’re not watching the right woodworkers then haha

[@acecarolino101]

I thought you were going to do it with hand tools

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

I would love to hand cut dovetails, I just don’t have three days to make four drawer boxes right now. I have plenty of videos where I do, though if that’s what you’re interested in.

[@MichaelCampbell01]

Testing. No reply necessary, but I don't trust myself enough not to.

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

No doubt

[@jefftar7599]

Test

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

Received

[@paulwhite1114]

What not hand cut!

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

I know, shocker!

[@bkpickell]

Am I the only one who was lost for the entire video? Is there an inside joke for the channel I'm not aware of since this is the first video I've seen from this channel? I mean what does the content of the video have to do with the title?

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

Hi mate, welcome to the channel, allow me to enlighten you. This video featured variably spaced dovetailed drawer boxes, and how those are built. The titles states "How youtubers cut dovetails," and the thumbnail showcases those dovetails. Sorry it that was difficult to grasp, personally, I feel that is pretty straight forward.

[@kluzz]

One and.... Awww f**k, I ruined my piece.

[@TimberBiscuitWoodworks]

Haha, it happens to the best of us