GOODBYE FOX FARM. MY REASONS WHY I’M DONE WITH THEM!

[@420scene]

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[@Catch_u_reloadn]

Not going to lie man in the past I have used Burpee eco-friendly organic seed starting mix that is organic labeled my buddy with a hemp Farm told me to do that. For the GDP run I used something a little more off-brand but still organic and amended it with worm castings and mycorrhizae and 444 + 286 of dr. Earth because that's all I could find as far as nutrients at the time.

[@MrPablo1uk]

Other than sponsorship (which I already know you don't care about) I don't understand why you and most others on KZbin e or what ever, don't just build you're own soil. It's way better and you can be 100% what's in it and you can build it to lean this way, that way, what ever you want. You ever made a pizza, it's always way better than the shit you get in shops, soil is just the same.

[@recklessgamer4890]

I like foxfram cuz I hate having to ph

[@Mrs.420Scene]

@@MrPablo1uk Scene has made his own soil. He has his own recipe and some of our fans have actually tried it out and love the results they are getting. I’ll drop you the link to the video he made about it.

[@Mrs.420Scene]

@@MrPablo1uk kzbin.info/www/bejne/eXOUhHl-mrSggJo

[@KRS_5150]

Don’t be sorry for your tooth brother, we all have flaws. That’s what makes us human. Never be sorry for who you are. Keep up the good work! Much appreciated!

[@kymatica8098]

When was he sorry about his tooth?

[@force9446]

@@kymatica8098watch the video 1:28

[@DeathByPurpleLongbow]

Is there a soil mix out there that only requires plain water from seed to harvest?

[@Ma007rk]

That is a really, really good question. I've also learned with the short time I've been in this hobby that if you ask 25 different people, you'll get 25 different answers most of the time.

[@terryb1987]

707 soil is really good

[@gurleyz]

Ocean Forest is great, but you have to approach it similar to the boost nutrients and cut the dosage to half by mixing it with Happy Frog 50/50ish. The types of strains you choose to grow plays bearing on the mix percentages as well. Certain strains fair better with higher concentrations and can flourish to bloom more efficiently with more or less. Knowing the strain's true tolerance and stress levels and how the soil's various concentrations during certain phases either enhances or hinders the plants progress is how you implement Ocean Forest. Just the same as you would with any other nutrient density.

[@lorenzobell6015]

You're right because I use the same mix 50/50 happy frog and ocean forest and my plants love it so far

[@michaelferrandi7593]

old guy again you get out of anything only the effort you put into it pre mix chemical fertilizer soils like ocean forest and miracle grow thats right thier both same catagory will work for all and you have put effort into finding out why my addvice is to create your own with what exsists in your backyard and amend with your personal compost your own refuse such as table scraps will produce the best growing media that mother nature intended for free god made organics man made chemicals who do you trust remember your injesting your harvest in one way or another

[@mrzralphlauren91]

Hey I just got both ocean forest and happy frog with some earthworm casting seeds germinating now any other advice . Also I've seen u can use egg shell and banana peels with water for potassium and other nuts

[@timturk1899]

@@michaelferrandi7593 I don't believe Ocean Forest uses mineral salts like Miracle Gro? I believe it's organic and gets it's nutrition from the Ocean and the Forest? Some Pro Mix's have a slight nutrient charge with very little mineral salts to start plants, but it's extremely little. Pretty sure Organic is on the Ocean Forest label..?

[@eagle1492]

Agreed. I use 50/50 mix HF and OF top 2/3rds and SF for btm 1/3rd. Adding nutrients based on plant feedback.

[@zekija816]

I have been using Ocean Forest for my first and, now, second grow. First grow was strictly OF and the trio of nutes. Started giving nutes after 3 weeks after uppotting. This second time around I did a mix of happy frog (2 cubic ft) and OF (1.5 cubic ft), perilite 40 qts, and vermiculite 10 qts. This recipe of mine has been solid. I follow the feeding schedule at 50% concentration. I supplement calmag, Recharge, Mammoth Silica, Molasses, Bushdoctor for saponin wetting agent, and SLF 100.

[@malikstiffler]

Ocean forest is a great soil, where a lot of people go wrong is how they go about water, when you over water your plants they are forced to take up more nutrients then they regularly would, water properly and you’ll have some crazy good results with ocean forest. I’ve used it many times and never had any nutrient burn.

[@hectorgomez8374]

correct , some like to water soil to runoff and that isnt how you water living soil it isnt coco coir or peat.

[@johnracki2258]

With soil if using synthetic bottled nutrients in flower, if you dont water to at least a little runoff, The salt builup will fry the roots. Soil is a different animal than coco but much the same if you over do it.

[@MrJimBBQ]

I use Ocean Forest. My experience has been that it depends on the cultivar. Certain cultivars have shown minor nutrient burn while other have been fine.

[@robertw.colemanjr.6617]

That’s the problem. Some soil’s don’t need nutrients while others do need them.

[@kodistick5618]

The Floraganic Farms Brew are good Organic nutes

[@ryanroy7827]

I usually dumb the ocean forest down with some coast of Maine and it evens out the nutes so there's no burn

[@tyleruhlenberg8074]

the thing i don’t get is i thought when growing organic the plants take what they need as needed. so how would you get burn from an organic soil??

[@420scene]

That’s actually a good question man. Even though organic amendments are very forgiving as opposed to synthetic nutrients that are highly concentrated, you can still get burned if you overdo it. But you also don’t need to adjust your water pH when growing organically so there’s a lot of room for error as opposed to not growing organically.

[@tyleruhlenberg8074]

@@420scene in that case then ya that soil must be pretty hot if it’s burning plants. could be some genetics just can’t handle it over others

[@blaqjade1384]

I decided to use old Happy Frog soil (2yrs outside on the balcony, exposed to the elements in old pots) mixed with Fox Farm Ocean on 2 plants and the 3rd plant was 100% new Fox Farm Ocean. The 2 with the old, depleted soil are doing better than the 100 percenter. Foxy is strong. Tread lightly. 👍🏽

[@valkillmore847]

I have only ever used Promix with hydro nutes. Never had a bad grow. Everyone seems to over complicate growing.

[@valkillmore847]

@@TommyGordon82579 makes for super easy grows. I'm not quite sure why everyone wants to complicate things so much.

[@kodistick5618]

should try the Floraganic Farms Brew are good Organic nutrients

[@kodistick5618]

@@TommyGordon82579 should try the Floraganic Farms Brew are good Organic nutrients

[@JoeBlunt]

I use happy frog from seedling to about 1 month and I transplant into ocean forest for flower and i never got burn. Dark leaves and fat buds which I am looking for. There is a big problem with all FF soil coming with a lot of fungus gnat eggs but you can cover the top layer with clay balls to prevent them from spawning

[@kenmitchell5605]

My current run I'm doing the same. I'm at week 3 in Happy and planning to transplant this weekend. Do you top dress the OF after a period of time? If so what do you add?

[@williamkreth]

I start seeds/clones right in FF OF then after plants are established go into FF OF with added amendments and what not. So I never bothered with buying another soil for seeds/clones

[@kodistick5618]

The Floraganic Farms Brew are good Organic nutes growmie

[@lenroot1713]

I purchased Gaia Green Primal Earth Super Soil for my main soil & Gaia Green All Purpose 4-4-4 & Gaia Green Power Bloom fertilizer for my grow this year. I also bought Pro-Mix HP w/ Mycorrhizae & Pro-Mix Connect Mycorrhizae for starting the seeds. Gaia says it's good from Seed to Harvest. Others say Primal Earth is indeed HOT and requires 12" plants before transplanting into Primal earth. My question is; -Does anyone know if Primal Earth is too HOT and likely to burn my seedlings? -After initially planting into Primal Earth, when is likely the best time to begin adding All Purpose 4-4-4 to Primal Earth for optimal growing? Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

[@jamesanderson6923]

Takes courage to admit you have been holding yourself back. Been watching you for a while. Much respect.👊🏽

[@donaldhershey7698]

I’ve used pro mix for the last 8 1/2 years and it has not ever let me down as a medium. I still add my goodies to it but the medium you can’t go wrong. Thanks for your videos though they’re really inspiring and I’ve learned a lot from you thanks for all the information keep it coming brother !!

[@420scene]

I’m glad you dig my videos! Pro Mix is good stuff indeed. Love being able to amend your soil.

[@mrzralphlauren91]

Hey im a beginner myself can anybody suggest which soils is great and not too expensive and that I can get from like home Depot Walmart or anything like that

[@kodistick5618]

The Floraganic Farms Brew are good Organic nutes growmie

[@goalyman17]

Which kind of pro mix do you use? I def ran hot with ocean forest my 1st run, been using buschdoctor coco with, and this is the kicker," Super soil for autos from Amazon " thats were i went horribly wrong. The nutes are all over the place with "super soil" and never doing it again. Literally have both toxicity and deficiency at the same time, impossible to control and correct. But for my 4th grow id love to have something i just need to add water and nothing else, maybe Blackstrap molasses but thats it. Any advice?

[@kodistick5618]

@@goalyman17 The HP is good to start and then I run Floraganic Farms Brew Stack from Seed to Harvest.

[@NewbComboz]

I actually just started getting my reconstructive dental work done and it was embarrassing at first but it feels really good to have it behind you. Trust me brother it's worth the discomfort for a short time to feel comfortable smiling again. Be well brother, hope this helped a little.

[@420scene]

Yeah man, I definitely know I have to go to the dentist to get this taken care of. I’m going to hopefully get it done this year. I hate when I have to cover my smile a certain way just so I can make videos. People think that I don’t brush my teeth or anything like that because of what they say but I definitely brush my teeth all the time and I’m pretty much paying for mistakes and neglect from when I was younger. Thank you for not being a dick.

[@NewbComboz]

@@420scene Same, I was younger and and really didn't think long term at all. Really wish I had too but hey, we are young enough to fix it 😂 Good luck man, it's worth it! Also thanks a whole bunch for your videos they are really good. I just harvest my first Successful Lemon Gelato!

[@aleciad848]

So you recommend happy frog and strawberry fields? At what stage,? seedling, veg, flower? Will it carry me throughout the whole grow.?. I don’t replant, cause the stress is to much on them, so I keep them in the same 3 gallon pot,.. what do recommend I use knowing I don’t transplant?

[@greenbudpacker8893]

happy is for seedlings/early veg, it's pretty light. strawberry is for flower. Ocean is supposed to be like a late veg/flower but it's best mixed with one of the other two. Strawberry is good but it has bad drainage, not enough pearlite. It's always good to let the stuff dry out and re-wet it before use, to avoid bugs. Any soil with fertilizers attracts bugs. You should really transplant though to avoid rootbinding and overwatering. it's real easy to overwater with a little plant in a big pot. And step it up to a 5 gal at the end for better yield. Just water it then wait a day so the soil is still moist and sticks together. If you throw some recharge or any product with mycorrhiza on the roots during transplant you won't really see any shock unless you're like picking it up by the stalk or trying to remove the old soil lol

[@greenbudpacker8893]

if you're gonna go with foxfarm you don't have to buy all 3, or avoid the ocean forest entirely. Personally I start in a cup of happy, then transplant into a 1 gal of happy, then into a 3 gal with mixed ocean and happy, then end in a 5 gal with just ocean. could do the same with strawberry instead of ocean but you'll have to add a little pearlite. Either way the soil has nutrients so you don't really have to add anything but cal-mag and mycorrhiza for like almost a month after each transfer. The myco helps with root growth and nutrient uptake

[@kodistick5618]

should try the Floraganic Farms Brew are good Organic nutrients growmie

[@paratrooper8916]

Its never to late to get your teeth fixed brother, I was terrified of going to the dentist because I waited so long but eventually I manned up and went and after a few months and multiple visits I got nearly everything fixed. It will change your life. Its not necessary to do it for anyone else just for yourself. Excellent video as always much love.

[@amirmcmullen1805]

RIP Demaryius Thomas. Much respect for the shoutout. Glad I was able to add the 420th like for this vid. Great work man

[@LearningAsIGrow420]

Build a soil has an awesome take n bake build your own soil kit with free shipping I'm ordering one tomorrow I think. I was a huge fan of happyfrog but lately it has been full of huge chunks of sticks and rocks and doesn't look or work the same as it did years ago in my opinion. Thanks for all the informative videos

[@ChefDan1981]

Build a soil 3.0 just burned my seedlings. I have tip burn on the first 4 true leaves. Pretty upset about it.

[@LearningAsIGrow420]

@Daniel Haddad that is one of thier most potent soil I'm sorry you had that experience. I would highly suggest the build a soil light with plans of amending or just start them in a seedling starter mix or something much weaker for atleast the first 2 weeks to a month depending on how vigorous it grows. I am loving the take n bake kit and so are the plants but they were 4-6 weeks old and in 1 gallon pots before transplant

[@smokeymcpot294]

I think my plants are suffering from hot soil? I'm on my 2nd grow with ocean forest and both grows produced yellowing leaves that I couldn't fix.

[@ThisOldStoner]

I'm using your Happy Frog / Ocean Forest / Strawberry Fields mix with very good results. I'm a new grower so it's giving me the successes I need to get adventurous in the future. On my third grow and tweaking it each time, once I run out of the Fox Farm I might try something new.

[@kodistick5618]

The Floraganic Farms Brew are good Organic nutes growmie

[@jhonwayne1003]

What else are you using with the soil? The whole grow line up?

[@ThisOldStoner]

@@jhonwayne1003 Yes just started using the Fox Farm Trio and it's seems to be super easy using 1/2 to 3/4 what's recommended on the label. I'm not using the Strawberry Field anymore but a 80/20 Mix of Ocean Forest and Happy Frog for 2/3 of the pot and Happy Frog. I've only been growing 6 months now and each grow I've been tuning it in a little better.

[@dajonjones8412]

@@ThisOldStoner Do you go by fox farm schedule when running the mix?

[@ThisOldStoner]

@@dajonjones8412 I've just started going by 1/2 to 3/4 of what's it says to use on the label per gallon every other watering and don't over water.

[@YouJustGotHitWithReality]

What do you think of Coast of Maine’s Stonington Blend?

[@Boosted0ne]

I think FF soils are excellent! It's just it's too costly to use in bulk. I use a mix of Pro-Mix BX, leaf compost, worm castings, Azomite and chicken manure for a base soil mix. Good, cheap soil mix right there. PS - I've used Ocean Forest for over 12 years and never really saw any hot soil mixes?? My pepper plant starts would definitely show negative signs if it was too hot.

[@Kooll3d37iscool]

I’m just curious on if you use microizae when starting your seeds because those microbes should wake up your soil and make it “HOT”

[@Boosted0ne]

@@Kooll3d37iscool Me personally...I only use fresh Pro-Mix in a 3" container when starting any seeds. Then transplant maybe 2 weeks out into soil. If people are getting FF soil that isn't composted down far enough it could be hot just like homemade compost can be. I just never really saw that with FF.

[@Boosted0ne]

PSS. I add dry amendments and compost for at least 2-3 weeks with any soil I use. I never use fresh soil out of the bag unless it's just a light top dress. I always compost it first. Then reuse the soil doing the same method. If any soil you have has a hint of ammonia or swampy smell then let it sit out for a bit and turn it over every now and then.

[@deezurt5895]

I'm waaaaay late, new fan catching up on some old vids.... I've never used promix, & it looks like they have a few different options.... Any suggestions or tips on which you prefer and why?

[@MrTmoney83]

I sit at work typing away listening to these n smile throughout. Love the content and "brutal" honesty. Ppl are too thin skinned and take constructive criticism and God forbid you disagree....omg the end of the world lol. Might need to actually install the IG to follow your grows. Congrats in the new house! Happy growing!

[@sugarman216]

Have you used Fox Farm since this? Or is it still Promix?

[@RebuildandRenovate]

i have ran only ocean forest for ALL of my grows, & this last batch i got at a new location ended up giving me burn for the very first time with multiple plants, so i believe it does depend on where you get it from!

[@kodistick5618]

The Floraganic Farms Brew are good Organic nutes

[@scottinsierras2945]

I’ve used both the soils and nutes, works for me? Also their feeding schedule is pretty easy to follow and it’s works?

[@laconflo1613]

We have been making our own soil for over 7 years now. For those who choose this route a soil test is recommended to really dial it it in. Especially when it comes to re-amending your soil for the next run. Another useful tool is a microbial test or meter. They are cheap and a must have for knowing and not guessing if your soil is alive.

[@leskobrandon8417]

Noted

[@Catch_u_reloadn]

When I first did my garden bed all I did was take 60 bags of topsoil I got from Menards and about 40 bags of manure then I got like 10 or 12 bags of Pro mix. Years later I made it into an elevated bed shoveled up as much as I could in then had some growing medium brought in. every year I will amend with how ever many bags of manure that pops in my head and then I'll grab some promix and then some topsoil and just keep doing that . I've never done a soil test.

[@laconflo1613]

@@Catch_u_reloadn Awesome stick with what works for you...most definitely. I make several different blends of soil for the locals in my area. We test them so the grower knows exactly what they are working with from the get go. A lot of money can be saved by not dumping amendments that may not be necessary. We encourage composting and vermicomposting. With folks with disabilities and seniors with limited income saving every penny counts.

[@jimbo9807]

There’s a couple of different kinds of pro mix which one should I use and I don’t wanna use supersoil I don’t need to cook dirt for two months.

[@420scene]

HP.

[@chrisbkush4205]

What's up guys. I live in New York and I am using F.F. Ocean Forest and it is def high in nitrogen my leaves have been very very dark green for a bit no burn but damn near close I would think. I flushed the soil lightly and they have been doing alot better now. I change to hp pro made super soil mix and I will not go back now.

[@420scene]

Yeah I mean dark green leaves is already nitrogen toxicity as it is. You want that nice lush green. Thanks for sharing your experience. Also, thanks for the blueberry x white widow and lemon tart crosses!

[@thisfool89]

Intresting, i have never had a problem with them. I also make sure not feed with nutes until the plant has at least 5 nodes.

[@kodistick5618]

The Floraganic Farms Brew are good Organic nutrients growmiie

[@kodistick5618]

@@thisfool89 The Floraganic Farms Brew are good Organic nutrients

[@ckhang]

If I use 5gal living soil for flower do I need to top dress in 4 weeks?

[@Graddy5]

I’ve noticed this also and always thought it was interesting seeing such different opinions on ocean forest specifically .. I’ve ran solely happy frog for years and have been very happy with it but am wanting to venture out a little too lately, great video

[@kushking1594]

Question i have fox farm coco loco busdoctor triple washed pre mix coco coir should I still rinse it all once with PHd water and cal mag before using???

[@ezbudz1993]

DT was awesome, too young man! I've lived way beyond my life expectancy, so I get what a blessing it is! I'm still using Fox Farm Ocean Forest and Happy Frog mix, lots of coco chunks and dry amends. I add self made bio char, compost and worm castings along with worms. I'm on my second run, reusing the soil and still only add dry amends and epsom salt. So far so good, the worms seem to love it too! I think if you're determined you will figure out where you made mistakes and be able to correct them. If I were starting over right now I would trust your new soil mix, everything else you suggest that I try always works out, that's what I call no bs advice! Newbies can really get a great start on things by just watching your videos and using your advice. You are a staple for the home grower! Thanks for all of it bro!💚✌

[@manicmurph]

What does reusing the soil do? It's got a bunch of dead roots in it don't it?

[@MrFreddy61]

I need help. How much of the fox farms soil do I use for 6-8 plants. Its my first grow outdoors and they're going in ground. I literally just bought 2 bags of organic fertilizer but that's it. I plan on digging 2x2x2 holes. Thanks for any advice in advance.

[@ryanghastling9642]

yea I gotta agree on the ocean forest, its pretty hot, once I took your advice and mixing it with happy frog, I wasn't getting nuts burn anymore. you're the best 420!

[@brandonoliver5665]

I hope you never have your nuts burn

[@nunyabiznaz833]

I just now purchased that duo ( based on these vids!!!) for my first attempt as soon as my seeds arrive. Wish me luck.

[@bradg9227]

Hey ima a beginner grower and had put my seed in straight happy frog when should I start nutrients I was going to Start at day 11 I have autos

[@kodistick5618]

should try the Floraganic Farms Brew are good Organic nutrients

[@kennethmueller1687]

I quit messing with fox farms , way too hot and was loaded with gnats ...went to mixing my own soil myself using promix , this harvest is killing it !!

[@CannaGro81]

I can't agree with fox feeding schedule. It very 🔥. But will work safely if reduced. If I could get Canna I would.

[@marks1372]

Which variety of pro mix do you use?

[@sarahcoppin2249]

I've heard with bag "soil" it's almost impossible to get an even mix at the factory, so this leads to a lot of variation in the availability on the nutrients in the final product. This could explain how some bags are hot and some are not, as well as different regens have different sources of amendments. Love the grow talks man keep it up.

[@dewaynehill2127]

I've notice over the last couple years foxfire soil is damper straight out of the bag, as to before it was so dry water would bead on top of the soil before it soaked in. My guess with the extra dampness, the soil is cooking inside the bag before it is opened and used.

[@kodistick5618]

The Floraganic Farms Brew are good Organic nutes growmie

[@wisdomoverfear2685]

This is my first grow indoors . I have a mix from a friend's recommendation and mixed 2 cu ft of happy frog with 1.5 cu ft of ocean forest with peat moss and a little extra perlite ! Will this at least get me going ? Please help as my beans are sprouting as I write this !

[@ganjagus2691]

I've never had a problem with Ocean forest. I live on the west coast maybe it is regional. I've been told in the west we get ours from Oregon. Have to look into that to see if that's true 👍

[@Catch_u_reloadn]

If you read the bag it says sourced from and it will tell you like I live in the Midwest and it tells me what states it is sourced from. That's why I think it's hot in some places and it's not because of what they Source locally. I've never personally used it though just for what I've heard and my thoughts on the situation

[@seanyoung9014]

I can't remember where I heard this but someone was saying that the peat in different parts of the country can impact soil quality and the west coast stuff is more desirable for some reason. Idk the truth of that but I found it an interesting possibility.

[@rhonan27]

I'm honestly just lost at this point. I'm using 100% happy frog running autos directly planted into soil after germination. I used distilled water, with general hydros 3in1 bottle nuts at 1/2 strength. Around the end of flower about two weeks or so left I been getting brown spoting on my fan leaves and am not sure why this is. Is this a deficiency of some sort or disease or something else haha?

[@shawnzwolinski9236]

I've found that O.F. worked well w/ my photo plants but burnt my autos a bit almost every run. I started to mix my OC w/HF and the autos look much happier since. This was a sweet drop 420, keep on grinding!! PEACE

[@johnjohnson119]

Interesting I need to mix with happy frog this next run

[@husamiemingels]

Dude I’m going through the exact same problem

[@husamiemingels]

I mixed them with HF but someone explained to me once the damage is done it’s done. You can help it from getting worse but it’s still damaged. Im new to this and im really lookin for tips so let me know

[@kodistick5618]

The Floraganic Farms Brew are good Organic nutes growmie

[@kodistick5618]

@@johnjohnson119 The Floraganic Farms Brew are good Organic nutes growmie

[@kenzo5834]

I’ve been using promix with dr. Earth day amendments. It’s been working out great and I’m now on day 59 of flower and the plants look amazing. The only other thing that I’ve added was some worm castings and some recharge. I’ve recently ordered some things from build a soil and can’t wait to add some more diversity to the soil.

[@richfiryn]

You're going to love the stuff from Build a Soil.

[@kodistick5618]

The Floraganic Farms Brew are good Organic nutes

[@shaunsimmons634]

Yeah I’m thing about trace minerals

[@jeffdacook4294]

When I used it it was not hot at all ..But now I only use Coast of Maine Stonington blend ... works great for me and super easy....Happy growing my friend

[@jamesnash2520]

I'm an old stoner and haven't really grown since 1973.I had very little luck growing until I tried your fox farm recipe, it was great! Now I'm going to grow one with the fox farm and another with the super soil you made.Thank you for the videos.

[@debo5227]

That's what I use fox Farms with my super soil mix. I let it sit for 30 days or more. I will look into using other down the line. Only time I killed a plant in fox Farms Ocean forest is because I used too much Bu's blend.

[@biggrigg1026]

Does anyone use Brut Super Soil? Did you mix with anything else? Any insect issues? Plant burn? Seems like a good “pro mix” for rookies like me.

[@rodneyrn4143]

Used ocean first grow and did well with it. Always willing to learn new things👍

[@cb.growmie8633]

i got a question for anyone out there. i mixed gaia gree living soil, worm castings, 444 and coco about 3 week ago. will yhat soil be hot now because its already mixed. my first seedling dapped off and i dunno if i should mix that soil with more coco and living soil

[@mitchellparrish2653]

Awesome info brother! Your guidance this past year transformed old school thinking into new age doing and my gsc extreme loved you for it! I used ocean forest and it was hot, will definitely be giving your soil recipe a go. Thank you again!!

[@mitchdaoust2826]

I was actually reading the back of the bag on ocean forest( cause i have one here) and it says its good for seedling, you and many others say its hot soil mostly better for flowering but nitrogen is the highest ingredient, so wouldn't that make it best for vedgge and not flowering?

[@ExoticMidz]

Sorry for asking but like when everyone makes these soils do they just trial and error and form their own or is there a base building to follow, just trying to figure out where to start because I either wanna craft my own super soil or a living soil for next run

[@sensorycircuits1338]

I put a gallon chunk of happy frog inside 5 gallons of ocean forest. This way, the seedling starts off in happy frog and by the time the roots hit the 'hot' soil, they are big enough to handle it. It has worked well.

[@petervalentine6083]

That's exactly what I do I put a frog in the middle so by the time the roots hit the forest they'll be mature enough to handle it great idea

[@JuneOrJune23]

Is promix good for seedlings?

[@davidhayes6178]

How do u feel about BRUT soil ??

[@lesspaul2241]

Dude everything is like that with opinions. Some people will say Wendy's Chili is too hot and some like me say it's just tomato sauce with meat and as weak as water. That doesn't mean that the chili is inconsistent it means people are different.

[@420scene]

All good man.

[@popejoeii]

Yo, Scene, PRO-MIX makes a LOT of different soils. Which one(s) are you using? Maybe a video on the different lines would make for some good content? Thanks.

[@milesoffshoresportfishing746]

I havent had any issues with ffof other than fungus gnats! I am getting away from it myself. Here in Va Beach all the bags i have gotten have not seemed to be too hot, i have used it for seedlings with really no issues, although now im using happy frog for my seedlings. Have a great day scene!.

[@blazinamazin4756]

i only use ocean forest in veg.. then in flower i add worm casting and maibu bu blend compost mixed in with ocean forest.. also still use grow.. bloom..micro... kelp along with it. I havent had a issue in the 1 year ive been growing.. But always up to try something new.. thx for the info bro

[@anthony3603]

What's your opinion on rogue soil??

[@Eieioy]

Is it ok to smoke buds with bud rot?

[@420scene]

Are you asking my permission to smoke mold? No, I can’t see that as a positive contribution towards your health.

[@scotoverstreet3113]

IDK, But We put about 2 inches of Strawberry Fields in the bottom and Ocean Forest and Happy Frog 50/50 , It was about a Month into Flower and seems like about the time the Roots got down to the bottom, Looked like it stated burning them up,, We had 2 others at the same time with only Ocean Forest and Happy Frog 50/50 and it seemed like they did Fine.. I'm thinking Strawberry Fields was the HOT one,, But Like a lot of people out here We just Started, So We could be Wrong.. But this time We only doing the 50/50 mix and we will try to let you know how that goes,, Thank You, 420

[@CasperTroy-g3x]

Could it be that certain genetics like different soils?

[@ericrutley5703]

I use ocean forest fox farm and I don’t know if it’s hot, but I never have any problems with it. I would love to do a super soil, but don’t have the space to mix a big batch

[@420scene]

Oh bro, super soil is such a game changer man.

[@shesharpshoots]

Yes, I agree 👍 Ocean Forest does Run HOT 🔥 From California. I'm just starting out. Investing in pots, then 10 gallon buckets now, 15 gallon. Plus equipment because my city is messing with our water (our ph is at 8.3) so I also needed chemicals. Now that I've adjusted my ph. I need to invest in drying and storing. So, if anyone has any ideas how to dry on a Social Security budget, please drop me a comment. See, in this community, I can ask questions like this because here in the 420Scene, we are like a big family. I do HIGHLY recommend joining the Pateron program. Worth it's weight in fat sticky buds.

[@out2burn]

What’s your thoughts on recycled soil?

[@curve5746]

Everytime I use OF i get nutrient burn. Sometimes it kills the plant. I'm not using anything else when this occurs. I thought it was me doing something and I discovered you need to up your PH when watering if using OF. I run my PH around 6.8 and it has really helped although doesn't completely fix the issue

[@420scene]

That’s because ocean forest is loaded with worm, castings, bat, guano, and then feather meal on top of it so that right there is three forms of nitrogen all hitting your plants. Some people say that you don’t get nutrient burn, but how could you not with all those amendments that are in there. Also dropped it water pH level to 5.8 and 6.3.

[@briancox3279]

i was planning on 1/3 ocean forest to 2/3 strawberry fields with some perlite for drainage. Growing autos, so going to make a 6 inch hole in soil mix using 5 gal cloth pots and fill with a seedling mix, thoughts?

[@guac6148]

How did it go

[@captainpeckerhead4551]

My wife is finally home this past friday thanks so much for the prayers y'all an God Bless.

[@captainpeckerhead4551]

@@TommyGordon82579 she is doing well an thanks so much for replying.

[@wtlandry2]

I re-use my old FFOF and FFHF. First I dump it in the soil bin with the red wiggler compost worms. Then I amend a little, some bat guano, kelp, little more perlite, some home-made compost with our family chicken manure. It has been so much better than when I started and I will never use store bought again. Recycling is the way to go bro. P.S. love the vids, you've helped me find my groove in my garden. :) Cheers bro.

[@isaacsantiago545]

I read somewhere that fox farm soils are good for up to 2 years from the date stamped on the bag. Apparently there's a date stamped on there somewhere. Idk, I haven't checked but maybe this explains why sometimes the soil is hot or not so hot. I guess that the fresher the soil, the hotter it is.?.?

[@777Dorado]

I ran across the channel while back and I agree I live next door to a farmer who raises livestock and get good manure compost by the wheelbarrow I make my own soil regular old Kellogg's raised bed soil. Using DTE nutrients to amend with a 30-day breakdown before using. You showed me it's all about preparation when using DTE. Or you can just tea Bio-Live & Neem seed for about 32 hours for a jump start. Thanks brah...

[@jeremylong6229]

I havent had any issues with burn with ocean forest.. i have noticed that every time i buy it it doesnt seem to be mixed the same as the last time however

[@bigwheels5647]

Seems to be better on my 2nd and 3rd runs,but I'm not sure if you can use the same soil indefinitely?

[@shadetree6981]

Idk if I can get a bead on Ocean Forest. It seems pretty good and my local garden shop has a seemingly endless supply of it for $23 for a 1.5... No lack of drainage that's for sure.

[@bg1749]

I just transplant into 3 gal fabric pots mix ocean Forrest and happy frog. 1/4 ocean and rest happy frog. We willnsee what happens. Trying to see what works.

[@puppypower3325]

Is roots organics any good? For the flower stage?

[@Rocky-og5rr]

There is no success without failure !

[@janeabeles5058]

What do you think about Coast of Maine Stonington blend?? My indoor grow did pretty well with it and I amend with Happy Frog nutrients. I have a bag of Promix but have been trying to stay as organic as possible. Thanks for your time and advice. Jane

[@devinsharp2322]

Been using CocoLoco for 3-4 yrs now with great results. Thinking about switching to SIPS, top dress with dry amendments for flower, and an occasional compost tea, but not sure if coco loco is going to work in these pots? Has anybody tried coco loco in SIPS? Ps. All foxfarm soils come complete with fungus gnats all ready installed

[@kodistick5618]

The Floraganic Farms Brew are good Organic nutrients

[@Greasejunkiesteve]

So I mix my own soil using basic organic potting soil s and perlite and my Lil ones are starting over but I have the fox trio liquid for nutrition but waiting till they grow a few weeks before I use the nutrients.

[@squiddlykicks8327]

I once read that Fox Farm soils are made in two different locations in the US . It sounds like the one on the West coast has consistent soil. The stuff on the East coast (which is what i've got) kills my plants. I don't know if it's too hot, but the ph is down at 5.5 (because the woodchips in the soil are acidic) It's been nothing but a disaster for me whenever I've tried to use Oceanic Blend. However, my plants LOVE the FF Strawberry Fields premix soil. But those have been at 6.8ph. So my advice for anyone using FF soils, do yourself a favor and check the PH before using it. Good luck, stay awesome, and happy growing!

[@DavidLangie]

I use pro mix, and gen hydro big three. I try to keep it simple. It's important to remember that the vast majority of a plants bulk comes from the air, not the soil. Alot of pre mix is way too hot for cannabis. I get huge yields by keeping it as simple as possible. But once again it's an art and everybody develops their own way. Your content rocks bro. Peace.

[@Weavie420]

mixed ffof/ffhf 1:1 for my first mix- 4 weeks in and for the last week or so im getting tip burn. trying to figure out of its nute burn from the soil or if we have a potassium def because imo they look similar.

[@user-it8oo1jo3i]

I got a quick question bro, do you know if measuring the ph of the runoff on your soil is an accurate way of testing the ph of the medium and is it as accurate as using a high quality soil tester? I don't have a soil ph metre so going of runoff

[@drnaughty9312]

measuring runoff itself is inaccurate. you want to do a slurry test for accurate ppm readings. Let your soil dry out mostly, dig down about 2 in into the soil and then fill a shot glass with the soil at that level. pour that into a glass along with a shot glass of distilled water. stir for a min or two to make sure its saturated. Then you can measure the ph of the soil and the ppms accurately

[@user-it8oo1jo3i]

@@drnaughty9312 thanks for your reply, I will try this. However I heard you should use 1 part soil to 2 part water when mixing?

[@drnaughty9312]

@@user-it8oo1jo3i no. equal parts water and soil

[@slightlyburntpopcorn696]

I worked on a cannabis farm years ago, and learned there to start seeds with a mix of 50/50 of OF/HP. Since then I've always used it start seeds for all kinds of vegetables, as well as houseplants small and large, and I've never had a problem.

[@lorenzolusca2011]

I think the burned plants are just really fresh batches. You see most hydro stores sell more ocean forest then other brands. Atleat where I am I see 30+ pallets go within a few weeks. People ordering on Amazon or online are most likely getting older batches that are more composted because they've been sitting along time.

[@kodistick5618]

The Floraganic Farms Brew are good Organic nutes growmie

[@HereticFox312]

Ocean forest was not hot for me, But with you recommending people to build their own soil have you tried any Build-A-Soil products or their pre made soils?

[@sep649]

Which Pro mix soil do you use. Long time follower and I agree 100%. I grow very repetitive plants every year and I’m ready for the change to pro mix… I’m holding myself back too. Which pro mix please. Wanna see more growth and stretch. Puff, puff, pass. Thanks for the channel. PS I’m over 70.

[@michaelpalacios5312]

Ive used ff ocean for all my plants. Over 120. If anything the mix is less hot than a couple years ago. Anyone agree? Ive needed to first feed alot sooner.

[@jimenez_david95]

Recipe 420 has worked well for me. I now have a 25 gallon nursery pot that ive been working on for +2 years by adding kitchen scraps from banana peels & eggs shells to coffee grounds and almost everything thing in between, followed by a light water and a light till from time to time. 👌 The soil looks super fresh and organic with plenty of worm castings 🪱 at this point but it "still can use some down to earth amendments." 👍

[@michealkingsborough6705]

Dude what else can I say but I Love your content and You have definitely helped me be a better plant Daddy. 💯 Respect! 🤜🤛 I've noticed in the past that Ocean Forrest being hot depends on soil quantity, larger pots get hot while smaller pots did not. I have been using ProMix BX for quite a few years now in a mix of 75% ProMix, 25% Organic worm castings and ameding with all organic Blood Meal, Bone Meal and Kelp Meal per package instructions. I use no other ammendments whatsoever and do not us any secondary nutrients, I top dress feed using the same amendments above along with my own organic compost. I water using water from my small garden fish pond, taking it sraight from the bottom of my filtration system through a ball valve I installed when I built the system. I also use compost tea made using that same pond water and my own compost which I apply every 3rd watering for that KICK. I will never again use pre mixed/amended soils, to be truly organic and for my own liking I have far more control over the health of my soil and in turn the health of my plants.

[@mizhempiana3138]

I'm doing a Miracle-Gro experiment this year...I don't care what anyone says. I just did a compost tea and brought the PH in the soil down to 6.5... the babies look amazing! I just know that I can't add a lot of nutes outside of with my compost tea

[@CasperTroy-g3x]

Thanks for all you do. Man, I am gaining confidence. I got lil seedlings! Thanks again.

[@uphwizz]

Used your half happy frog half ocean forest top half of the pots and strawberry fields on the bottom. One of the bleu cheese photos got quite a bit of leaf tip burn the first two weeks after transplant, however after third node all nodes and leaves above that are doing great.

[@Matt85USA]

I've made the move over to B.A.S 3.0 and B.A.S light. Let the soil feed the plants, bye-bye Floraflex. I just ordered a EsrthBox and giving it a try. ✌

[@outdovibin1912]

What are your thoughts on reusing soil on indoor runs?

[@waltwild2451]

Brother you are making a difference ,.I used to grow good smoke, thanks you and some of the other guys on grow channels,I'm growing a very wonderful craft cannabis now that has people close to me saying "wow!!! you grew this,????!!!! Used to nobody wanted to throw in on grows and help out ,Well,,!!! they do now,!!! I appreciate you and the knowledge you drop on us .Thanks a million!!!