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The Trek Planner

The Trek Planner

Күн бұрын

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@lucasb1324
@lucasb1324 9 ай бұрын
Your first thought on location was that it could be a grave, and I agree. They probably had a party for their dead chief, or maybe it was a party giving gifts to their dead chief. And always a 👍.
@thehunter3386
@thehunter3386 Жыл бұрын
Hi Jeff, thanks for another thought-provoking video. Given the size of the pottery field, one might speculate that this could have been a seasonal hunter-gatherer encampment. Hard to know what the wildlife was like 800-1000 years ago. It's always great to enjoy Saturday morning coffee with your videos. Thanks again from the woods of Maine!!
@TheTrekPlanner
@TheTrekPlanner Жыл бұрын
The square thing was odd, but seeing the "pottery field" as you say, really made me think about what was going on here. I think your idea of a seasonal hunter-gatherer encampment would fit well here. Seeing all the game trails through the wash would add to your idea! Love Maine BTW! Even though we visited for just a day trip a few months back, we want to come back and see more!
@1nvisible1
@1nvisible1 Жыл бұрын
*Gophers will frequently carry small pieces of ceramic and broken glass to the surface when they find them even several feet underground. I wonder if some of these were brought up from underneath and then the rain and time washed away centuries old evidence of the little mammals. That **_could_** mean there were additional relics underground.*
@thehunter3386
@thehunter3386 Жыл бұрын
@@TheTrekPlannerHi, should you visit again, let me know! We've several interesting sites around the state. I think you'd find them interesting! Otherwise, stay safe, have fun!!
@C.StewartDenton
@C.StewartDenton Жыл бұрын
The idea of a temporary seasonal hunting camp also is the thing I thought of. You would not need large enclosures, just something to keep you warm and dry to sleep in for a few days while hunting a good ways away from your normal home. Not sure about all of the pottery shards there though. Maybe it was a good location for excellent clay for pot making, and they just stayed there while making pottery. Don't know.
@M.M.D.
@M.M.D. Жыл бұрын
Could it have been an ancient kiln? That could explain all the different types of pottery bits around the area. They could have been pieces that didn't make it through the firing process and were ground up later and used to make grog. Just my thoughts. I'm amazed something that small can be seen from a satellite!
@laurafolsom2048
@laurafolsom2048 Жыл бұрын
That’s what came to my mind
@froglureprototype4967
@froglureprototype4967 Жыл бұрын
I think you’re on to something.
@kirsiselei8703
@kirsiselei8703 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same👍
@mariewolton7027
@mariewolton7027 Жыл бұрын
My thought as well! You'd have to dig down - which respectfully this guy doesn't - it would be interesting to see. It may have been of stone & earth. The random broken pottery may be mistakes in the fire & kiln. Love this guy's adventures - so interesting! This island where I live has had most places explored over & over & over...
@van_antwerpen
@van_antwerpen Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing so I googled to see what they used to fire their pottery and it says basically they just dug fire pits, no mention so far of a structure being involved. 🤔 Always an interesting mystery! Does anyone know which state he’s exploring? I’d love to get on Google earth and see if I can spot any new places that might look interesting for him to check out.
@TrippUpthemountain
@TrippUpthemountain Жыл бұрын
What about the other features in the picture from above? There’s a large circle formation and also looks like a path going away from the rectangular structure to another structure. I think that bend in the creek bed below the rectangular formation, deserves a check out. You should go back when you can spend more time. You do great work! Keep it up!
@Anname8
@Anname8 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Yes, at 8:03, just below the rectangle, seems to be a huge circular pattern, formation. A closer look at that would be nice. 😊
@pgk60
@pgk60 Жыл бұрын
Cow paths
@SuzWarren
@SuzWarren Жыл бұрын
Yes, I’ve been wondering about that circular formation. It’s so perfect.
@StalinLovsMsmZioglowfagz
@StalinLovsMsmZioglowfagz Жыл бұрын
2:15 look at the hillside CLOSELY.
@StalinLovsMsmZioglowfagz
@StalinLovsMsmZioglowfagz Жыл бұрын
Looks like some caves there too around 2:57
@goldenambience7346
@goldenambience7346 Жыл бұрын
I love the way you explore places. It encourages others to not only explore, but to look close to see the details. Also, you never disturb anything you find. Very respectful. Thanks Bunches!
@VermontScaleCustoms
@VermontScaleCustoms Жыл бұрын
I kept thinking burial mound the entire time. Perhaps a great trader among tribes resided there and after their passing many came through and honored them with offerings. Maybe time has taken its toll on what was there. Maybe the rectangle of rocks is deeper than it appears having been filled in by dirt. I get the sense it was a communal location with all the varying kinds of pottery. I sincerely appreciate the work you're doing and sharing because it really helps take my mind of my current life as a live-in caregiver for my elderly mother. My life completely changed about 5 months ago. I lived in Vermont for 30 years, hiked every weekend, etc. Now, I'm back in the Midwest and don't really get to immerse myself in nature much at the moment. So, many thanks, for not only helping ease the day a little but sharing some fascinating finds from your adventures.
@getsmart9987
@getsmart9987 Жыл бұрын
I’m sorry to hear about your family needing you for caregiving. I spent 3 and 1/2 years doing that, my big take away….take care of yourself first. Many people get so exhausted by caring for others that they end up with their own health crisis. Best of luck❤
@MariaWalker-qo3vi
@MariaWalker-qo3vi Жыл бұрын
Just wanted to let you know that you’re not alone. I’m in the same boat. Yt keeps me sane. :)
@VermontScaleCustoms
@VermontScaleCustoms Жыл бұрын
@@getsmart9987 I have, on so many occasions in the last 6 months, done the exact opposite. It's good advice to do for yourself in these situations. In the name of self preservation, it is essential to being able to handle the many stresses.THANK YOU! 💜
@VermontScaleCustoms
@VermontScaleCustoms Жыл бұрын
@@MariaWalker-qo3vi I feel for you. It really helps to be to just check out for a minute and be somewhere else! Take care 🥂
@tulazaz
@tulazaz 11 ай бұрын
That’s what I was thinking too. Because there’s a small Indian burial outside of our town, and I read Natives still secretly visit and drop off an offering like a feather or piece of pottery.
@paraglidingprospector
@paraglidingprospector Жыл бұрын
4:30 looks like a core rock in the lower right, roughly baseball size. Possibly chipped off bits to make arrowheads and such? Great find!
@tbthatsmetb
@tbthatsmetb Жыл бұрын
Looking at it, it looks like the rocks are built up in layers. Looks like a mound of some sort. Burial mound!
@contempl8ive
@contempl8ive Жыл бұрын
I love that you take the time to notice the details. It’s so interesting that the pot sherds are still so intact even though the walls of structures have completely fallen down over the years.
@annakeye
@annakeye Жыл бұрын
But have they? Fallen over, I mean. There's very few stones in the area of the size of those surrounding that spot. If this 'thing' had walls, then you'd think there would be a lot more rocks of similar size on the ground.
@mlentsch
@mlentsch Жыл бұрын
I like it quiet, too, Trek Planner.
@mirandamom1346
@mirandamom1346 Жыл бұрын
Amen, brothers
@TheMrRichard
@TheMrRichard Жыл бұрын
Jeff!! You walked over what looked like another one of these squarish rock foundation around 3:00 - these rock foundations look like they could potentially be the dimensions of a canvas wagon topper that would have been tacked to about 2-3ft of stacked rocks during westward settlement times... The confusing part is definitely the pottery and the fact that none of the rocks look like it was sanctioned as a potential doorway. From the satellite shot and the areas you were finding pottery pieces looked like it could have been residual flooding from the dried riverbed - or even where the Hohokam huts would have been placed and the original square being the communal area. The Hohokam people were known to have complex irrigation systems and have had ruins discovered as far north as Flagstaff.
@stanleybridge
@stanleybridge Жыл бұрын
Love the crunch of footsteps…thanks.
@timothyvanderschultzen9640
@timothyvanderschultzen9640 Жыл бұрын
Another great trek! Thanks for taking us along.
@random22026
@random22026 Жыл бұрын
8:07 The arc of what appears to be a circular earthwork is just beneath the formation that brought you to this site--and it's really large! The outline for a kiva, or some other circular structure? Compared to the pale rock rectangular, this is massive. 8:49 Definitely NOT a Snickers bar! 😅😅 Hurray for the electric bike! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@gordslater
@gordslater Жыл бұрын
I think a I also see a arc of post-holes continuing the earthwork on the left side, sweeping close to the creek-bed
@random22026
@random22026 Жыл бұрын
Yeppers--good eye! :D @@gordslater
@Silhouex
@Silhouex Жыл бұрын
But did you notice the circle sits in a triangle?
@random22026
@random22026 Жыл бұрын
@@Silhouex Don't see the triangle; however, at 0:03, there appear to be OTHER circles (or arcs) nearby, or even overlapping. WTA?🤔🤔
@random22026
@random22026 Жыл бұрын
Could be! There are other circles/arcs nearby--see 0:03... 🤔🤔@@benwolcott1531
@mrsmissy2669
@mrsmissy2669 Жыл бұрын
It was relaxing watching you tread on another adventure. Appreciate you sharing. ☺
@deborahm6036
@deborahm6036 Жыл бұрын
Really interesting seeing the varied pot shards. Thank you!
@marymisdom3955
@marymisdom3955 Жыл бұрын
I really would enjoy your going back there again. The view from Google earth showed how extensive it is. Whatever those bushes with white flowers were, they were amazing. Thanks for such great content.
@roseannmarion6607
@roseannmarion6607 Жыл бұрын
That is Chamisa, or Rubber Rabbitbrush. The flowers are actually bright yellow and blooms from late summer through fall. The white is the seed fluff and dead flower remnants.
@onething247
@onething247 Жыл бұрын
Jeff! Another grand adventure! Thanks for sharing your journey with us. Maybe from time to time you could lay an object, like a ruler or even your phone, by some artifacts to give some perspective. We love it all! Stay safe. We are fans in Alabama.
@brockn7878
@brockn7878 Жыл бұрын
Phones come in many sizes though. Still will mess some peoples perspective. A coin, lighter, pen or something standard and common is best.
@cindychilders8138
@cindychilders8138 11 ай бұрын
Or a banana 🍌
@brockn7878
@brockn7878 11 ай бұрын
@@cindychilders8138 bananas vary in size though... would defeat the purpose of a perspective pic.
@stephendoherty1275
@stephendoherty1275 Жыл бұрын
Something to be aware of, when an enemy took over a camp/ village or homestead, they would ransack the place and bust up all of the pottery...
@Wolfietherrat
@Wolfietherrat 8 ай бұрын
Is that why all the pottery is broken?
@alainaaugust1932
@alainaaugust1932 Жыл бұрын
8:01 Answer: That white shard has been like that since the last time that environment was wet. When was that? The American southwest was wet 20,000 years ago. And . . . there were wet winters and springs in the late 20th century. So, anybody’s guess.
@ksjones687
@ksjones687 Жыл бұрын
Another great adventure. I live in West Virginia and love your videos. I always wanted to go exploring in the desert. TY for sharing your knowledge!
@3degreeimages
@3degreeimages 11 ай бұрын
Another great hunt. Thanks for sharing your adventures!!
@Quilty_Lala
@Quilty_Lala 5 ай бұрын
What a fascinating site! Others have commented it might deserve a revisit when you have more time, and i agree! Thanks for always taking us to the most fun and interesting places!
@DingbadYoutube
@DingbadYoutube 8 ай бұрын
Nice pot shards. Another trip there would be great. Thanks for the video.
@sandralacount2040
@sandralacount2040 Жыл бұрын
I love watching you. I was in that area where you go a few years ago. I went and saw the Pueblo cliff dwellings in Mesa Verde it was amazing.
@necrokittie2291
@necrokittie2291 Жыл бұрын
my guess is that is where they were making the pottery. the square of stones might be the pit they fired them in. if you dug down, maybe the bottom of the pit would of been lined with stone too. that other line of stones might be the only uncovered side of a similar pottery firing pit. to make the white and black pottery the oxygen has to be removed from the pots while they cool so they were most likely barried under in those pits with a bunch of dirt over top. there has in the past these pits found completely still filled up with pottery that was never dug back up. also to keep the dirt off the pots they are making, they cover them with pottery shards. so, it would explain why there are so many shards there. and it might of been located there because there was good clay in the area.
@BookOfMormon4GenZ
@BookOfMormon4GenZ Жыл бұрын
I certainly enjoy your 'unplanned' expolorings, Jeff. Thank you, as always, for sharing your adventures!
@gregkerr725
@gregkerr725 Жыл бұрын
I vote grave and pottery is remains of bowls, jugs etc left as offerings and broken and washed down hill over the centuries. Wild guess anyway.
@sdavis7916
@sdavis7916 Жыл бұрын
So cool! Always awesome seeing these things! Thanks Jeff!! Brandon
@tomlidot4871
@tomlidot4871 Жыл бұрын
That was a nice random adventure. All the pottery definitely denotes past activity. I liked that you went on a whim.
@hogkillerjp
@hogkillerjp Жыл бұрын
excellent hike and adventure, thanks for sharing
@skyeseaborn1170
@skyeseaborn1170 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting Jeff, thank you. I think we will all have fun, with you, wondering about this one. Stay safe.
@denisem.1042
@denisem.1042 Жыл бұрын
With all the pottery sherds around, there was obviously a lot of activity at this spot in the past. Thank you so much for documenting these places before they are lost to time completely!
@danhumphrey5755
@danhumphrey5755 Жыл бұрын
It seems like an ancestral burial site. Where a person of prominence was interred and inhabitants from a wide area brought offerings or the remains of their own in pots that have broken down over time. The whole place could be a cematary of sorts.
@wheresyouraloha
@wheresyouraloha Жыл бұрын
Aloha Jeff! Thank you again for your channel and taking me with you on all these adventures!🤙🏼
@PatriciaRodriguez-vn6cv
@PatriciaRodriguez-vn6cv Жыл бұрын
Thank you for another adventure. You left us wondering as well. Be safe.
@KarenBrusina
@KarenBrusina Жыл бұрын
Fascinating! I thought it might be a grave too until you started finding the pottery pieces.
@michaelbrown3353
@michaelbrown3353 Жыл бұрын
I thought it looked like a grave site to .The pottery shards could be offerings. Many tribes would shatter the vessels sending the offerings to the other side. I didn't see any signs of fire and kilns were usually round. Rocks should of had soot,no signs of that. I think your first guess was right.
@easterisa
@easterisa Жыл бұрын
I enjoy all your adventures. Thanks so much for including us in your journeies.
@chuckzehnder530
@chuckzehnder530 Жыл бұрын
Keep trekking, Jeff! You always make my day.
@kathy9172
@kathy9172 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting place!! A lot of different types of pottery, wish we could know the story!
@billykershaw2781
@billykershaw2781 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for letting us be part of your channel. Always look forward to your vids.
@jimhamman2335
@jimhamman2335 Жыл бұрын
big circular structure right next to your square structure. great find!
@JusSumGuy366
@JusSumGuy366 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video as always, if you had more time i bet there are some beautiful points in that area
@LarsOfMars.
@LarsOfMars. Жыл бұрын
So much of those pottery shards are so much finer than what you find on the average contemporary European site. Gorgeous
@jonericus
@jonericus Жыл бұрын
1,000 years ago Europe was writing the Magna Carta.
@LarsOfMars.
@LarsOfMars. Жыл бұрын
@@jonericus No, 1,000 years ago a small group of English barons instructed a notary to compile the Magna Carta, but they were still cooking with, and eating off, coarse stoneware and terracotta.
@jonericus
@jonericus Жыл бұрын
@@LarsOfMars. Yeah, and what were those barons and other royalty eating off of? While these people were building stone dwellings big enough to sleep in the original Canterbury cathedral was already in existence. 4000 years prior to that Mohenjo Daro had public trash collection and water works. Not crapping on these people let's just not engage in false equivalences for diversity points.
@LarsOfMars.
@LarsOfMars. Жыл бұрын
@@jonericus You accuse me of draeing false equivelance whilst in the same breath comparing a Cathedral to a domestic dwelling. Please gather your thoughts before attacking me for making a perfectly valid, and reasonable, comment in thanks for the video.
@noonehere1793
@noonehere1793 Жыл бұрын
Another grand adventure!👍👍
@joeduke8239
@joeduke8239 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your great videos and your conscientious advice!
@rickkinsman7400
@rickkinsman7400 Жыл бұрын
Did anyone else notice the large circle on the ground almost adjoining the main rectangle? At 8:04 the arrow is right in the middle of it. How about taking a few of the scraps of pottery to a museum and asking what they made of them? There's quite a bit more to this site than first impressions indicate.
@karenfromva
@karenfromva Жыл бұрын
I love finding the pottery!!! Makes me just imagine what happened there...❤
@carv_W_9519
@carv_W_9519 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting channel, I'm loving it. Your personality is cool, the pacing of the video is cool, its all pretty interesting and relaxing at the same time. It's amazing to realize how so many random, useless and forgotten rocks on the ground were not really rocks at all, but just broken pieces of so many things that got lost in time and weather. Anything bigger has been broken or taken by people or nature. These are little fragments of history, not big enough for archeologists to study, not big enough to be stolen by people who would have passed there for all these decades, maybe centuries, but still not small enough to be disintegraded into dust. They are still fragments of a forgotten story.
@julieinthedesert420
@julieinthedesert420 Жыл бұрын
I agree this could be could kiln. You can contact the Bureau of Land Mngmt. Let them know what you've found, if they know of it they can give more info. If not then you've helped locate and "tag" a new ruin. Love all the different pottery. So beautiful ❤❤
@Materialworld4
@Materialworld4 Жыл бұрын
I have no clue Jeff, none, but I would investigate the area further on google earth to see what else is in the area. I must say those were beautiful patterns and colors on the abundance of broken pieces of pottery that were scattered about. Finally I have to hand to the people that lived there so long ago, they survived in a very tough place, extremely tough. Take Care Jeff, see ya next week.
@CricketGirrl
@CricketGirrl Жыл бұрын
Coyote scat! Yay! I hope you get a chance to go back. Looks like a water source nearby, and with all that pottery, I'm thinking it could have been a settlement. Someone knows it's there, since it's been protected (kind of) from motor vehicles. Sounds like a fun full-day adventure! Take Annie and the kids! ❤
@sus8e462
@sus8e462 Жыл бұрын
Idea of an early settler's grave makes sense, as likely those selecting the spot took advantage of a much older hunting blind ruin for larger rocks to outline it. And likely many of those pot shards brought up & scattered about as it was dug...
@jennifersiegrist8440
@jennifersiegrist8440 Жыл бұрын
Love watching these videos. Thank you very much for taking us with you ❤❤❤
@kathleenposton2334
@kathleenposton2334 Жыл бұрын
Jeff, I love your videos and your honesty about not knowing what in the bllazes you are looking at. I know of a REAL authority on SE pottery, a college professor and fantastic reconstructor named Andy Ward. Look on line here for Andy Ward's Ancient Pottery. He is also respectful of the land around him and could tell you a lot about the shards that you photograph. Heck, I could tell you a bit, if my darn books weren't all packed to move! But Andy does recreations and fires them in the old ways. Collects annd purifies his own darn clays and paints! You might have fun together. Good luck and be safe, my friend.
@jakemetcalf7550
@jakemetcalf7550 Жыл бұрын
In the frame with the arrow pointing at the square, there appears to be a large circle around the arrow. Right side is an indentation, the left is a line of whiteish circles. Just seeing things. I really enjoy your work.
@mstalcup1973
@mstalcup1973 4 ай бұрын
I just love these Adventures
@johnganshow5536
@johnganshow5536 Жыл бұрын
In the satellite picture of the " square thing " I also see to the right a bow shaped line of rocks? Also a pattern of equally spaced rocks underneath like a walkway...
@drobertsmithjewelry
@drobertsmithjewelry Жыл бұрын
Very likely a field house. Would explain the different type pottery sherds. Most look to be of jars and such that would also lend to it being a fried house. They usually were in close proximity to fields.
@markeverson5849
@markeverson5849 Жыл бұрын
Jeff thanks for sharing I want to warn you I almost died once out on an adventure I got caught on a beautiful day when it turned dark and storm clouds roll in I was left in the forest lost and could not find my way out after dark it turned from 75 ° to 18 ° and the rain never let up on me for hours I almost froze to death it was a miracle only with tears and prayers that I get out hours later and stumbled into our camping trailer my clothes were frozen stiff dot I barely escaped with my life. My point being if you get stuck out there in cold exposure to the night for whatever reason you can't make it back to your vehicle and it drops down to 28 or 30 degrees you could freeze to death and di of exposure easily always carry a little extra water little food and an emergency shelter blanket a small lightweight tarp to protect you in case of frigid rain and heat or wind in the event you cannot make it back to your vehicle
@snowmiaow
@snowmiaow Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your story. He does but doesn't usually show it. Glad you survived.
@teresadvorak6145
@teresadvorak6145 Жыл бұрын
It looks really sparse of firewood material around there. I'm so glad U made it out of that horrible rainy lost trip. Your tuff! And U are so strong. God bless U.
@markeverson5849
@markeverson5849 Жыл бұрын
@@snowmiaow thank you what saved my life was my four-wheeler I dumped the old wooden ammo box that was on the front rack out and put it over my head and got on my knees and put my arms in the motor where it was warm and let it run the heat from the engine saved my life I fell asleep and woke up hours later if I would have run out of gas and there wasn't much in the machine I would have froze to death also
@markeverson5849
@markeverson5849 Жыл бұрын
@@teresadvorak6145 the four-wheeler kept me alive my prayers and a few tears I knew I wasn't going to see my wife and kids again the Heat from the engine of my four-wheeler kept me alive I fell asleep on my knees hugging the engine while it idled in the pouring rain it turned to 18 degrees
@philroach9900
@philroach9900 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely love to watch your adventures 😊
@allisond4737
@allisond4737 Жыл бұрын
Maybe this was a meeting place, where different tribes met every year next to the stream, that would explain the amount and differences in the pottery.
@CricketGirrl
@CricketGirrl Жыл бұрын
Great idea! Might have been used as such for centuries.
@adamward9310
@adamward9310 Жыл бұрын
Jeff I noticed that below the square is a giant circle shape made from stones. Your white arrow actually points to the massive circle. Definitely a cool video!❤❤❤😊❤❤❤
@marksstudio
@marksstudio Жыл бұрын
How interesting. Well done. A civilization or community that makes pottery is interesting, but to have time to make what apparently is artistically adorned pottery usually indicates that the citizens have their shelter and food handled. That was a great trip, and I hope you return to do some further exploring, like if there is a ready water source. Awesome man.
@toughenupfluffy7294
@toughenupfluffy7294 Жыл бұрын
That's not bear scat, it's chupacabra droppings. Be careful out there, Jeff.
@lclanktr
@lclanktr 11 ай бұрын
FIrst Jeff, your channel is great and you do a very good job of all of it, editing, talking etc. Keep it up. Enjoy the mellow music as well that your add during film moments without vocals. Second, on this episode, at about 8:02 your google earth shot your arrow is almost in the center of a circle the size of a house. Maybe by now you've seen it but if not...good to look back because you mentioned you might be going back to this interesting site. The lower left of the circle are spots/dots and the upper right looks almost like a shallow trench.
@BillyJ244
@BillyJ244 11 ай бұрын
I have no idea what that place was but it was very interesting. I'm glad you investigated it though. Thank you for going. Be safe out there. I've read about the wildlife in the area and there are mountain lions and bears. I'm from Cleveland and don't know much about the desert but I know you have to be safe wherever you go. Thanks for your videos!😊
@lucindajennings148
@lucindajennings148 Жыл бұрын
9:40 another great adventure! Under some of the shards you first saw..it looked like an arrow head ?
@bwilliams3227
@bwilliams3227 Жыл бұрын
Thankyou for taking is with you!
@arailway8809
@arailway8809 Жыл бұрын
Hi Jeff, If you had flown your drone I might have been able to show that this was a field house with fields for corn, beans, and squash growing around it. The water canyons might be just right for collecting water for the fields. Good hunt!
@SeMoArtifactAdventures
@SeMoArtifactAdventures Жыл бұрын
Cool spot Jeff. Id say it would be worth stopping back by when you had more time. There has to be more in the area. Seems to be an important place since there is that much pottery in one spot. I’m not familiar with western pottery. Does the different types of pottery come from different time periods? Making it a multicultural site.
@ianwilkinson4602
@ianwilkinson4602 Жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly, there were so many different types and colours of pottery, it would be worth investigating what time period each one represents, to get an idea of how long the site was periodically in use. We are asking a lot of Jeff in doing the invetigating, but it could be rewarding for him too.
@muqeo
@muqeo Жыл бұрын
comment section full of great suggestions... I have to second the voices saying mounds or earthworks, and the abundance of broken pottery most likely being due to it being a kiln or pottery making/firing area... there's always the little considered option that they are mass graves from one of the many battles before the colonists or after, I always wonder about that
@LeTrashPanda
@LeTrashPanda Жыл бұрын
The square structure resembles a kiln to me (and would explain the endless amount of pottery) unless there are burial mounds nearby, then pottery would be destroyed due to a person's passing, such objects were not 'handed down' to others for various reasons. The variety of styles of pottery sure is intriguing since some were preferred by outside visitors rather than the ancestral pueblo.
@CricketGirrl
@CricketGirrl Жыл бұрын
Good spot for a kiln. Water source, and maybe even more vegetation for firewood hundreds of years ago. Clay in the ground, too.
@normanriggs848
@normanriggs848 Жыл бұрын
I am amazed this small thing could even be seen in Google earth!
@mpmrlpforl7289
@mpmrlpforl7289 Жыл бұрын
At the 5:11 point in Your background in the upper right of the frame You can see what looks like a stone circle. My guess is possibly a teepee ring. Also, from Your sattelite photo there is an apparent path made of stone squares leading away/to the square 'foundation'. Neat stuff!
@mollysunshine8312
@mollysunshine8312 Жыл бұрын
So as a 4th generation Nevadan, and NV being the 7th biggest state in the union. Over the years since I was a kid, we would come along these type mounds, and when we would stop and ask historians, or park rangers etc. It was usually a burial mound of a pioneer, or someone headed west. Although you don't post locations, since I travel around the west, and I am not saying this is Nevada at all, but I do notice many of your videos, seem to be the western states. Vast open plains. It is very refreshing to see someone appreciate the open spaces and imagine what took place there. It is sad to me, many parents don't take their kids out to the wilderness, and explore like you do. Best times and memories of my life are with my grandparents exploring old ghost towns, mining towns, etc. New to your channel, enjoying it.
@pixelpeter3883
@pixelpeter3883 Жыл бұрын
They surely liked their decorated pottery there at that location! :-)
@catzcradle
@catzcradle Жыл бұрын
So interesting and cool!
@Miller923
@Miller923 Жыл бұрын
I was hoping you had a metal detector🤔 it would have been interesting to know if there was buttons or other metal objects around this "Grave".. I like your videos✌🙂
@WormholeNavigator
@WormholeNavigator Жыл бұрын
Tx anthropology dude here- did you see the huge circle connecting to the rectangle?
@TheTrekPlanner
@TheTrekPlanner Жыл бұрын
Are you talking about the circle that goes down and to the right (connecting the bottom right corner of the rectangle)?
@WormholeNavigator
@WormholeNavigator Жыл бұрын
@TheTrekPlanner at 8:03 you put an arrow on the satellite image. The arrow is almost centered in the huge implied circle I see, like a clock pointing at 11. There appears to be something else outside the circle to the 12 o'clock noon position. This site is one of the most interesting ones to me. I wonder if it has anything to do with salt production. I've seen a lot of that down south in my Mexico adventures. I'm glad you hide these locations (because people tend to suck) but I'd love to know what was around this site 1k years ago.. lakes ect. Usually, an abnormal amount of smashed pottery in an odd area points to production of something involving evaporation or drying.
@paradisedot50
@paradisedot50 Жыл бұрын
It has many different styles of pottery so it was used for storage of something...but not a lot of stuff. The structure doesn't have enough stones to have been intended to last. I'll bet it was wooden otherwise and meant for either a temporary storage spot (staging spot) while collecting or processing (whatever)...or a hunter's blind with stuff brought in to support that.
@opheliadeclines
@opheliadeclines Жыл бұрын
Grave offerings? An emergency storage cairn? Thanks for taking us along!
@jennyfrey2307
@jennyfrey2307 Жыл бұрын
Great feel like I am there. Wish I was. My kind of adventure
@signemarkuson1940
@signemarkuson1940 Жыл бұрын
Makes me wonder if the environment there was greener back in the day it seems so barren now. Great treck today!
@Galiuros
@Galiuros Жыл бұрын
I like your jersey because of close the color is to blaze orange. No matter what may or not be in season, it's a good idea to make sure you're seen. This is an interesting site. A good one to pass on to academic research.
@lh3540
@lh3540 Жыл бұрын
Time Team in the UK has a lot of earthen kiln excavation episodes. They're covered in sherds. I don't know the firing process these cultures used. If it was an underground kiln complex there would be collpased layers in the hillside. It's possible they weren't firing the pots there, but leaving them in a drying or painting shed of some kind.
@chuckzehnder-mq4pt
@chuckzehnder-mq4pt Жыл бұрын
Thanks again, Jeff.
@shadyhollowfarm
@shadyhollowfarm Жыл бұрын
Really great one!
@philduoos2961
@philduoos2961 Жыл бұрын
At 8:04, the rectangle appears to be at the 10 o'clock position of an arc that lies to the SE (down and to the right). A series of large stones on the left side of the arc, and a depression(?) on the upper right side of the arc. Or it is just my eye trying to make something up! But very cool. I like the previous comments regarding a kiln, due to all of the different patterns of pottery. Are those patterns specific to a certain time period? Or would one culture make a variety of patterns?
@eliz1957
@eliz1957 Жыл бұрын
Thanks extremely interesting… I thought kiln also… I’m pleased you’re not the only one that right… Specially, all those broken bits around…😊
@charleshicks3492
@charleshicks3492 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jeff, love it, I’d spend a lot more time there
@mickmarshall9254
@mickmarshall9254 10 ай бұрын
Great video
@katherineozbirn6426
@katherineozbirn6426 Жыл бұрын
A line of rocks seems to extend from the square below it; also, there appears to be a circular shape to the side of the square.
@jeanmariemclain2836
@jeanmariemclain2836 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I thought I saw at least one large circular shape next to, and bigger than, the stone square.
@herbertbell9438
@herbertbell9438 Жыл бұрын
There is a large circle next to the rectangle as well but more faded. It shows up in the drone shot. Given you're finding pottery so far from the ruins it might have been a town at one time.
@billbucktube
@billbucktube Жыл бұрын
👍‼️Thanks for sharing.
@Art_BC
@Art_BC Жыл бұрын
A site like this might be a great location to use LiDAR scan.
@toughenupfluffy7294
@toughenupfluffy7294 Жыл бұрын
"How many hundreds of years have these been out in the open?" Richard Wetherill said there were so many pots (not potsherds, pots) laying around, the cattlemen and ranchers often lined them up and used them for target practice. So finding a bunch of potsherds in one location might not mean there were ancient people in that specific locale. You might have found one of the places the cowboys lined up priceless relics and mowed them down with their guns. I wonder what other clues might be there to help know for sure?
@daleparker4207
@daleparker4207 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. Thank you.
@JeffinBville
@JeffinBville Жыл бұрын
In all these places you go (like that rectangular stone structure from a few weeks back), the State probably knows what each is, including this one. There's someone you can email with coordinates and they'll probably have a clue as 'new' discoveries are rare and most of the ones you've 'found' are probably registered, if not had digs associated with them. Start with the archeology department of the State University.
@markeverson5849
@markeverson5849 Жыл бұрын
If you haven't learned your lessons America I never involve the so-called authorities with anything! They only come to plunder and restrict kill steal and destroy! Remember they're the ones who killed the people destroyed their culture and Heritage stole their land and now they say all the rock is sacred this is hypocritical and we know where the artifacts are there in the private collections of the archaeologists and or sold on the market long ago keep your private finds the location of them private people it's okay to share it on the video but don't give the information of where it is cuz too many other people disrespect it just like the archaeologists the government it's not your friend just turn on the news and if you don't know what's happening in this world than you are doomed
@sjssjssjs
@sjssjssjs Жыл бұрын
A lot of them are noted but here out west, there is plenty to yet be discovered. Especially if it’s on a reservation or part of BLM.
@markeverson5849
@markeverson5849 Жыл бұрын
@@sjssjssjs thank you Stephanie you have brought a little joy into my life this morning your picture is very charming and your words are truth Mark saying hi from Southern Missouri Ozarks USA
@JeffinBville
@JeffinBville Жыл бұрын
@@sjssjssjs So, you would NOT check with authorities to find out what something is? And if it's new to them, all the better. Though I would disagree with you on what's been found and noted as at the turn of the 20th Century extensive archeological work was done across the southwest. There are other YT channels of people exploring similar places and they have little trouble finding out what something is/was from recorded sources.
@sjssjssjs
@sjssjssjs Жыл бұрын
@@markeverson5849my middle name is Joy 😁
@weebermannsfolly2580
@weebermannsfolly2580 Жыл бұрын
Another fascinating look at a history few can see. Thanks! A thousand years from now, when our landfills become exposed, will a future Jeff wonder why all of the bits of plastic are lying about?
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