Goratha's Magic Find Strategy Update with FAQ! Wisps causing Magebloods and Mirrors to rain!?

[@blairwilliam8791]

People getting troves should also check to make sure they don't have Growing Hoards on their atlas selected. I see this happening a lot

[@CaptainYaBugger]

OMG THANK YOU SO MUCH

[@hellowill]

Lol

[@nik_ms]

MAN THANKS, why the hell does that happen?

[@DingosaurCanFly]

​@@nik_ms it replaced the scarabs effects

[@周赫然]

Bro I was like no way people are making this mistake. Then I checked my atlas tree and realised I had it up😂

[@EspyMelly]

For those having issues outdps'ing self-healing rares that become unkillable, socket a Frost Bomb somewhere in your setup, no supports required, it'll cut all enemy healing by 75% (works on both leech and regen rares). Been using it non-stop this league and it has completely nullified that problem even before you improve your damage.

[@Bastian98G]

Thanks youuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

[@Kacperskid]

Alternative is if you have a mark, spec into mark mastery that makes the marked enemy unable to regenerate life.

[@kurtsaidwhat]

I use the pantheon that lowers regen

[@med640]

As a PF you should have 0 trouble with this, there is the Pantheon Passive as well as Recovery Mastery in case you have decided to path into the Stuntreshold Node for use with Immutable force.

[@med640]

If you run a low stun treshold setup, socket this into a Cast When Stunned link and it will go bananas. Great idea @EspyMelly.

[@Mephitixify]

I found my first mirror ever a few days ago. Thanks for this strategy.

[@brentcolson6253]

DROPPED A MIRROR OUT RIGHT FIRST ONE EVER IN POE THANK YOU

[@Mrcipry999]

Also about sustaining cemetery maps, if you have uber strict filter on, it hides low tier maps, so you have to edit it to show t7 maps. I was pissed I wasn't getting any t7 maps with just 1 watchstone, it was the filter hiding all the low map drops ...

[@ssssss-w9t]

use his filter :)

[@pex7781]

does his filter hide everthing what is not worth keeping? because i copied his "Tier 7 No Loot" filter. but it hides everything. @@ssssss-w9t

[@Far2ManyDrugs]

@@ssssss-w9t which one the no loot one?

[@555anti]

@goratha :Would you mind explaining briefly what the different filters do?

[@m1xxx3r]

PSA: There's also bug sometimes where spire doesn't spawn or it spawns rares outside maps, then You have infinite abyss blue/white monsters that dont drop any loot and give any exp (i encountered it many times, especially when Abyss moves towards boss doors near wall or Harvest entrance or Legion pillar or ANOTHER ABYSS)

[@Unpulumpa]

bro i sat there for like 6 minutes wondering so I started watching my xp bar not go anywhere and realized it was bugged lol

[@m1xxx3r]

there's also another bug/issue, especially with relativelty narrow maps (or layouts) where You can have guaranteed 3+ abysses (compass+scarab) but it spawns only 1 due to issue that abyss takes a path a->b and to create new abyss it need to find another path c->d without crossing any other previous paths hence lowering amount of abysses You get

[@jpazc2]

@@m1xxx3r so cemetery t7 its not a good layout to run this strat ?? could be dunes maybe ??

[@m1xxx3r]

@@jpazc2 it's not "bad" per se but it's more prone to cause those issues, I personally run t9 dunes

[@rick240sx]

FYI if anyone is wondering if monstrous treasure works with this strat, it doesn't. It takes away all your abyss encounters so save it for crimson prison

[@almaki6094]

thanks for the update! btw u can save 1 point if you path to the delve nods at the start

[@hellowill]

At this point, you are the POE GOAT. For those that dont know, Goratha has been a top player for over 10 years. Multiple BOTW and Race wins. Now he's leading the way with magic find.

[@singolera]

Got a mageblood today thanks @Goratha, my first actual league with a premium tab

[@lordlifemaker]

With your videos on the Cuastic arrow PF and this i farmed my HH in just a few hours on Softcore trade after hitting lvl 90 then just got my first mirror drop after 4.6k hours of playtime thank you gamer

[@ChrisMunro-r1g]

do you have a video guide on what scarabs/compasses you use? and how you roll your maps besides the +2 proj?

[@Vordil777]

Thanks to your Video and your Build i just had my first ever mirror drop :) I really like this build, it's my second season but i think the wildwood is really nice.

[@Vordil777]

and yesterday the mageblood drop!

[@buoiii5737]

Duude u are the mvp this league hope I can try this strat. You are insane

[@Nothalux]

How do you sustain currency when doing this strat? Each map is costing 15c for Gilded abyss, 12c for polished Relq, 35sx for beyond and most of the time I'm getting maybe 20c of raw drops and I could scavenge for extra currency if I take off your loot filter that gets rid of a lot of drops. I just don't feel like I'm getting enough out of this strategy for it to even be comparable to your experience and I've attempted to mimic your gear as best I can since I'm new to MFing, I got a lucky div card drop worth 35div on my league start and invested 30 of it into this build, I don't think I'm far off your rarity and quantity stats, damage is fine, I'm rarely ever dying, I'm getting 4k+ wisps per map, I've been running this strat for 3-4 days and at most gotten maybe 7-8 raw divines, which have funneled straight back into scarabs and sextants to re-juice, effectively making zero progress. I'm losing a lot of incentive to continue playing so I'd really appreciate any advice you'd have!

[@lucasribeirock]

Bro, So could you please tell me wich scarabs and compasses are perfect to match? Thank you. First league here

[@Spectyrr]

Been enjoying the abyss strat, dropped my first mirror doing it. Also encountered a few strange bugs with abyss while doing it, main couple being, infinite abyss that spawns mobs forever and doesn't move (they dont drop loot and don't give xp, i sat at one for 15 minutes), and abyss's that just poof while I'm chasing them. I used different scarabs and sextants tho (div, strongbox, abyss, rare packs), and always put skittering orb on map and tab sold my non used scarabs on tft.

[@Ekqo3]

i noticed that the infinite abyss things occur when i killed the spire while those abyss projectiles were in the air, they are supposed to disappear when the spire dies, but they cant disappear in the air, and when they land they are just waiting forever for a spire that isnt there to die

[@Vellentretenmert]

I also noticed bug that abysses doesn't spawn. 3 abysses mod map and there is only one abyss.

[@guitarsolos89]

I used a winged Abyss scarab with map Abyss craft and had zero abysses in that map. Weird bug, and I was kinda sad cuz I got a triple whisps map 😂

[@finisheseverythi]

happens a lot to me...@@guitarsolos89

[@yk_2120]

just wondered what sextants are u using also are u rolling them or buying ?

[@leafgamingph723]

What are the best scarabs to use with this strategy aside from Gilded Abyss Scarab?

[@coycoy4736]

Can you tell me how you are using Rage on your current build? In order to get berserk going?

[@pushirito8630]

chance to gain rage on hit rare/unique monster tincture

[@kameleaga]

rage on hit on gloves and tincture

[@alihaidar5560]

Why do you grab the + chance to get abyss since you use the 7th gate.

[@KirbzYyY]

I have had a lot of maps where I have less abysses than supposed to, I found I always had another mechanic in the map (the usual suspect being ultimatum) that "eats" the abyss in order to spawn.

[@discrep]

The map craft, scarab and sextant guarantees 3 abysses (4 w/winged). The atlas passives give +56% chance for a extra abyss node, but it's not guaranteed and wouldn't be even if we could block other content while using WP. I've never had fewer than 3 when I have the above options selected. I've noticed when fiddling with scarabs and sextants that I sometimes forget to select the abyss option in the map device.

[@KirbzYyY]

@@discrep I've had several maps where I opened the map mods just to make sure I didn't mess up and saw "contains 3 additional abysses" but there were ever only 2 in the map itself.

[@discrep]

@@KirbzYyY Not doubting you bc this game's code is well known to be buggy. Extra content is able to spawn on top of each other and abyss feels like it has one of the smaller footprints compared to say legion or expedition so I dunno.

[@s3lect78]

I have a question regarding the spires. Im playing TS and it is generally fine to shoot down the spire to half hp and wait for it to spawn the rares. But after that do you have to kill the spawned rares before you finally kill the spire? It seems like the majority of rares are despawning if the spire goes down first because of TS chaining.

[@Karashote]

once the spire shoots 3 times it is done, you can kill the spire. just give it a few seconds to spawn all the rares

[@llHungLowll]

Thank you for the update!

[@alexjanes2213]

How do you keep divdist up so much ? You tape a stick between Q and 1 keys ?? I find it so hard to keep mashing 1

[@kidcassonsmash]

How did you craft the helm you are using?? Its insane but i cant figure out how to make it

[@Ryder-636]

You can add or pin this thats useful for the league mechanic. You can "widescreen" your game as well. Might be annoying to some, but you can simply window POE, then stretch it together, creating a "widescreen" and seeing further left and right for things such the wisps. I might be explaining it poorly, but there are videos out about it. NOTE: You do not need a widescreen monitor to do this. Anyone can do it.

[@Goratha]

Yeah I heard about this... I personally probably won't bother but I guess anything helps.

[@Ryder-636]

I suppose it’s for those that are really min maxing.

[@danw3735]

You should be shooting into the darkness as well, you can drag more monsters into the light.

[@PalleAChill]

Been doing this for a long time now. Even with 7k whisps, i dont think the loot is impressive:/ 1 divine here and there. What am i doing wrong ? I use sextants, MF, roll my maps with proj and collect 5k+ whisps :/ Am i collecting the wrong whisps ??

[@Nothalux]

No idea but I feel the same way. Collecting plenty of wisps, investing into all the map juice, straight MF invested gear and I'm getting just barely enough currency in return to sustain the map juicing.

[@finisheseverythi]

So just to be clear, when the spire spawns (and if you have +three proj) then you will see three groups of green dots (mobs) on the map? I dont know if i am killing my spires too early or not...

[@discrep]

I always get 2 groups, sometimes it pukes a third one, but in my experience, it's 50/50 or worse on the third one. Environmental aspects like walls or other objects might affect it, but I have no solid theory why it doesn't always spawn 3 groups. The spire also doesn't keep spawning if you leave it alive. I've knocked it down to about 30% and watched it for a minute. It won't keep spawning groups, rather it'll despawn itself at some point, but I think the safest option is to hit it a bit because it does seem to spawn dots only after it's taken some damage. Then worry about killing the rares and leave the spire alone, it might spawn another group or it'll despawn. There's no benefit to killing it.

[@assemyounis8987]

Would it be possible for you to tell us how to craft a helmet like yours?

[@Nyalonar]

About the less abyss spawns, on Jungle Valley I should get min 3 of them, compass, scarab and map device but some of the map layouts spawn 2 only with Ritual and some map layouts spawn 3+ with Ritual but when there are 3+ abysses some are very close to each other that both of them could proc.

[@OruTamilGamer]

Goratha, are you still running T7 cemetery's? Could you make an update video on how to move to higher tier and what upgrades you made in your build to make it work? I see that your current character uses a quant amulet instead of defiance. Are you able to handle the incoming damage with it?

[@SaintFranssoix]

you don't want to run monster lvl 78+ maps cause then you get abyss bosses and you don't want that

[@lanrik4582]

4:55 why exactly is the reveal orb bad? Does it actually use up your time as if you were revealing the area yourself? Or is it just cause it makes it harder to see where you were going/coming from

[@AK-tn4sd]

Even if it doesnt waste your "time", youd need to first get to it and it usually is surrounded by complete darkness so youd be just wasting getting to it.

[@CheekyMe7]

Hi Goratha, thanks for the vids and sharing all the guides! I just have a question - how do you generate rage with ''that which was taken'' jewel? Bought it with poison and +5 rage, but doesnt work, tried googling, checking POB in the app, but cant understand.

[@olekkoszewski7949]

Check his tincture in pob, it has % chance to generate rage

[@BlazeTheDoja-qh1ey]

Your accent sounds FABULOUS!!!

[@soundwave12]

thanks for the vids man, I did your setup the first thing I did after the first spire was RUN to get the lootfilter lol I could see a damn thing anymore on the screen even with an already strict filter xD

[@tunahanocak5577]

Do you have a pob for current version of the build or min-maxed? Also, which pantheons to use?

[@dominikbade9674]

what sextants are you using? Would be my question, does it even matter? I use beyond from my map divice. should i put an abyss sextant in and the rest 3 just more monster?

[@kylematthews9754]

Just a heads up, I found taking harvest nodes and Harbinger workes the best for abyss spawning correctly. Which works out since harb adds a decent amount of rares still but takes up less resources on the map. Harvest is great if you dont want to buy juice to reroll your scarabs! 😊

[@IsaacfysFoo]

Damn I didn't even think of rerolling scarabs with harvest, thanks for the tip

[@KingJerbear]

Hey Goratha, which version of your build would you recommend for a fresh league starter? You seemingly took it in several different directions based on the multiple videos I've watched, and I've lost two characters to server lag like right after I got to maps, so I have extremely limited gear to start with. Just looking for something safer I can get started with before I even think about going for juicer MF build.

[@Goratha]

It's the same build, one just has MF gear on, the tree is the same though.

[@xxMurmaiderxx]

Have you noticed running certain scarabs/mechanics is more likely to reduce your total abysses versus other mechanics? When I randomly get an expedition, harvest, ritual, ultimatum, blight, etc I end up getting 1-2 abysses when I "force" 3 abysses by default. I was running ambush scarabs for a while, but it seems like Harbinger scarabs are less likely to interfere with abyss spawns than Ambush. I went with Breach over expedition/ritual on the atlas and I'm thinking about adding a Breach scarab (cheap add to only needing a rusted scarab), but I'm a bit worried it's going to cut into my abyss spawns and be a net negative while also costing more. Divination scarabs just seem meh because it doesn't really scale the juice strat at all, they also cost 1.5x more than everything but reliquary scarabs.

[@Goratha]

Yeah I wouldn't add breach, ritual seems pretty good though. And you are right that mechanics can replace abysses, seems like it is a low priority for the game.

[@싸가지없게말하는사람]

hi goratha, i reeeeally want know about Is there a difference in the amount of wildwood wisps between 7T and 16T?

[@IFIRIAIGx]

How do you generate rage/ activate berserk? Not sure what missing!

[@Nothalux]

Tincture that grants rage on hit against rare monsters

[@adkwach]

@Goratha I have pretty similar build to yours now with enlighten 4 and same auras and i think my mana recover to slow compared to my attack speed. Is there any other source of mana gain other than yellow flask? Also do you get onslaught somehow?

[@Goratha]

Leech and MGOH on the tree with Storm Rain is the main recovery. And yes my tincture has rage + onslaught on kill.

[@adkwach]

​@@Gorathathx for answer

[@555anti]

Thanks Goratha for the info and strat. I have been trying it and ran around 70maps this way. No T1 uniques/loot for me so far. The most expensive item that has dropped is a single h. lock. How many maps did you run before you would see a T1 drop? am I doing something wrong here?

[@Goratha]

I find t1 uniques every map basically, or do you mean t0 uniques? Those are still pretty rare.

[@555anti]

@@Goratha Thanks. T0 uniques I think is what I mean. (mageblood, HH, mirror, squire, etc). Also, did GGG nerf this? I was at least getting a few divine each map...I have not changed anything but I am lucky if a single divine drops. Same with the scarab conversion drop.

[@Karashote]

Thoughts on Meticulous Appraiser with this strat?

[@Karashote]

nvm i think it's rly bad lol

[@j3rry_b441]

Hey @Goratha. You said in one of your films that you are going to make a build guide for you Pathfinder. I am looking forward to it 🙂

[@dragonofthesky9999]

so its not in the pob but what would be the best on avg pantheons to take? assuming lunaris and minor bounces around depending on the map?

[@slasherx3117]

i'm trying his new version of the atlas, since i can't get abyss map craft through seventh gate do i select beyond on mao device? i'd like some clarification i'm new to this ty

[@jontehue4653]

wondering if you got any tips for selffarming sextants, wanting to do something similar to this but in ssf, should i just go yellow juice + exarch altars for that?

[@Goratha]

Yeah, its basically just exarch maps + any sanctums you find.

[@TwoChopstix]

What loot filter should I be using for this? The T7 no loot?

[@its_kc7088]

I have a question. You said you are running strongboxes + harbringer. WIth that setup, considering you need 2 x strongbox sextants to make them worth. What are you not running now, beyond? Beyond is also the most expensive sextant but i'm wondering because you cant fit 2x Strongbox + 1 abyss + delirum + beyond in your sextans so you must be dropping one of those.

[@Goratha]

Normally I'll use deli orb with strongboxes. So it'd be beyond, abyss, strongbox rare, enrage and then deli orb.

[@fantomxdexrage]

Literally love you ❤

[@nikven5414]

I am currently playing omni tornado shot and was interested in doing this strategy. Would for starters one quant rarity ring be worth slotting in instead of death rush? And is it worth doing the strategy to be able to afford things like hh or mf gear swaps? (Is my first league so not sure what would make sense)

[@kirkfletcher9707]

I have a question. Is there any way to get a slightly more budget friendly version of this, I'm enjoying it but I can't stay alive to save anything , I'm basically a minion one trick so this is all new territory, What can I do to up my survivability? So I can level up and actually make some

[@Lightdark1992]

how do u generate rage though?I see u have berserk but no rage generation?

[@peripheryfeb8461]

rage jewel

[@Lightdark1992]

@@peripheryfeb8461 how does +5 maximum rage, makes u generate rage? even in pob it says no generation

[@peripheryfeb8461]

@@Lightdark1992 and tincture

[@Lightdark1992]

@@peripheryfeb8461 how???tincture inflictes withered, has nothing to do with rage???

[@Goratha]

Rage tincture.

[@dirtymightmusic5239]

I dont know if the beyond sextant is that worth it anymore costing like 250c now. You could always run it on the map device for 1 less abyss but with how crazy abysses are we would rather have 1 more abyss than beyond right?

[@SB-fi1fv]

i'm getting spires and a bazillion mobs every map, but unfortunately so far in 30+ maps I haven't had a single wildwood that gave more than 2-3k wisps. Watched every single video on how to navigate the wildwood but no luck so far :/

[@c-tothefourth4879]

are you running 8 mod maps?

[@SB-fi1fv]

@@c-tothefourth4879 uhm so far over 200 maps i've only been able to roll a couple with both 2 proj and 8 mod (they sell on TFT for 1 div each). Mostly just running them with +2 proj

[@kizmy2]

someone said from another stream and it seems to be working that inside the mist you must find a corner and then events and everything will be in each corner of the square. like the mist is a square

[@Goratha]

Yeah, that sounds about right, though I think events can spawn inbetween the corners as well.

[@JohniPT]

how do you have 2 craft in the helm? (i crafted it in craft of exile using multimod, anulling it then exalting suppress)

[@maxicastillo1898]

You wear HH, it's not how it appears in the pob. Another question, did you also change the amulet?

[@user-re2ey9jj4l]

hello. I saw your pob. Which 1 of the 7 Link Gems on armor should I exclude?

[@Goratha]

Mirage archer for mapping, you can swap for bossing if you want a bit more single target though.

[@user-re2ey9jj4l]

@@Goratha thanks!

[@matv6799]

How do you deal with spires with headhunter ? I dropped mine last night and now I'm having a super hard time not just deleting them off screen with manaforged arrows

[@sprunk]

Have just recently got Micro-distillery belt and am confused by interaction with tinctures. It seems fine to put Tincture in 5th slot but on you're PoB you have Taste of Hate in 5th slot...is there a way to activate a potion in that slot? Tried same enchant but it doesn't seem to work. Even tried removing the belt and using the flask and putting back on but it doesn't reuse at end of the effect. 🤔

[@Goratha]

It's just for HH swap, forgot to move flasks around on POB.

[@zior92]

Struggling with damage when juicing with affliction, any easy item that will boost dmg a lot?

[@pablokim2]

if pathfinder just high ele dmg bow with high bow dmg/ damage voer time multi quiver is more than enough

[@HugJini-mo9xu]

​@@pablokim2can i have a high ele damage bow with just cold or do i need fire and lightning as well. Pain in the ass to roll

[@pablokim2]

@@HugJini-mo9xu ideally want high edps, meaning all 3, as much as possible. i would say for t7 u prolly want around 1k edps

[@ShaydPoE]

Watched both videos so idk if I missed it but, why Cemetery? I'm 68/350 IIQ/IIR and I've been farming T16 Burial, but I want to switch to full Winged setup. Burial seems not ideal because you can't rush the boss really, so your altars are going to be below average. Is Jungle Valley the better option if I can rush T16 for altars, or is cemetery still the way to go?

[@ZerFayt]

This is T7 strat, you cannot do burial or altars. Cemetery has brothers gift divination card.

[@tjfarr18]

@Goratha What sextants/scarabs do you use?

[@Smirnoff194]

Have been running the same strat all league, but decided to switch to MF. Saw all the comments on the previous video talking about MBs and mirrors dropping, spent 40div respeccing to MF - And then dropped a MB on my first MF map. Selling it to buy a HH before I continue, but gd has it started well. Thanks for the build and guide.

[@voidroad]

what are you running for mf ? i'm considering going full MF too in ssf because I run the strat with just ventor and goldwyrm (and IIR support since i play on a 3L to avoid oneshotting the spire by mistake) and the loot is already super good kinda curious to see how good it is on actual high mf gear

[@IsHeHigh]

People have done research in terms of their being an internal "tier list" of what gets forced out when a particular map layout hits it's max spawned mechanics. "Additional" abysses are pretty low and will get forced out when the map layout controls the max number of mechanics that can spawn.

[@Goratha]

Makes sense, I kind of figured this was the case, that's why I'm skipping expedition/legion now.

[@IsHeHigh]

@@Goratha I think only two are guaranteed and the rest can get eaten

[@tomaszromanowski9153]

yes, had that many times, only 2 abyss @@IsHeHigh

[@m_pekar1]

That's why I think correct way is to skip beyond sextant because it's too expensive and add it on map device. Then add some other sextant (like monster pack size) for additional mobs.

[@Jotoneee]

Why cemetery? Can we run a t7 with a good div card?

[@Jotoneee]

Or are there no T7 with good cards?

[@Goratha]

5 divine / 5 exalt div cards

[@Delusional-People]

is poison duration the most important mod on the which was taken jewel and the rest just bonuses ?

[@nilsgrundstrom8071]

does the atlas tree in the description also work with t16 cemetery?

[@Goratha]

You'll want some eater packsize nodes most likely, but the rest is the same. (more eater packsize = more altars)

[@samuel8991]

Could you please share the skills that you use on the showcase? The pob doesn't have mirage archer etc. Do you have different skill set ups that don't use manaforged and so forth. Really liking the build but having some trouble following it. Would appreciate the help.

[@samuel8991]

without hh ofc

[@Goratha]

Just swap the deadly for mirage archer.

[@johnweitort9087]

made some adjustments due to gear and things i have around 500k less damage but have much more tank loving it so far

[@longgado11]

Why you take so many elemental res in your pob? Is there any reason about that?

[@mempo6596]

the problem with this strategy is precisely the luck you have in the wildwood.. if you collect a few wisps you screw up the run and lose currency, considering how much sextants and scarabs cost at the moment

[@lucasmclean3601]

How do you proc your despair is it on a mouse button or something like that

[@sammyjenkis5260]

why do you have Unending Nightmares specd if you are using delirium orbs?

[@sharpeles]

which sextants do you use?

[@Drigorin]

Hey Goratha, does running Non-MF character will still be worth it? (planning to run the same strat but on t16 which I could clear easily but without MF gearts)

[@kurtsaidwhat]

The cost of the strat is so low that you don’t need mf

[@voidroad]

you could , but make sure you have several abysses per map if you do that , because gilded can go to abyssal depth in red maps. But there is only one abyssal depth per map at most so the others will be spires you get less value without mf but still very good value , i just run IIR support and goldwyrm boots on my penance dude and i still get quite decent returns

[@glenndiscord3754]

Hey goratha wondering how big a difference beyond makes, currently in sc the yare real expensive so wondering if its worth to pay the price for them

[@Goratha]

It's not required, it is good though if you can afford it, just because it adds a lot more monsters to the map.

[@superking___]

​@@GorathaI've been using beyond on the map device and it seems pretty good because you still get 2-3 abyss and don't need to worry as much about there not being enough space to spawn all the abyss

[@Goratha]

Probably not a bad idea.

[@Chris-rt8kc]

@@superking___what’s the sextant you use instead?

[@superking___]

@@Chris-rt8kc well you need abyss and the rest are optional. If you don't take deli chance on the tree then use the sextant. You can also do 8 mod corrupted, enraged strongbox or just rare mob pack.

[@zotha]

Cemetary looks open hut has a lot of shitty terrain with the U shaped structures. Putting too many other mechanics into the map can squeeze out even mechanics forced on like the Abysses due to spawnable space

[@asylum7986]

Question about the spire, after it spawns the rares at 70% & 50%.. do you need to not kill the spire before killing the rares? as with HH I sometimes dont have the choice because of shroud walker. Also playing TS with chain, which does cause me to sometimes kill the spire while hiding behind a corner.. Also anyone have tips for performace, been having to restart PoE after every map as the lag becomes a big problem.. also the amount of flickering/lag while mobs are spawning from the spire, which is weird considering im running a 4090.. One tip i found that makes your maps feel smoother is turning the sound channel to low, as weird as that sounds it actually works.

[@tjparkour24]

Check the F1 panel, you're probably CPU bound in juiced maps like this, if reducing the number of sound channels helps then it's 100% a CPU bound problem, which means you want as little running on your PC as possible, close browsers, Discord, etc. If you can get it to purely PoE running then it will help a lot, otherwise close as much as you can.

[@thayalol]

How did you make that helmet with 2 crafted mods?

[@sammyhax]

Can confirm this WORKS like a CHARM. 1 mirror 1 HH 1 Mage. lots of Divs

[@ΓεωργιοςΚαμπουρακης-ω3η]

Hello there,i am confused about the troves that you mention,so it supposed that you MUST NOT spawn a trove at the end of the abyss ??and if yes how is that possible?Sorry if you find my question noobish but i have to play this game since 3 years.

[@Goratha]

Gilded Abyss stops them from spawning if you are still spawning them you must have Growing Hordes or Stream of Consciousness on, make sure you take those nodes off.

[@ΓεωργιοςΚαμπουρακης-ω3η]

@@Goratha Thanks for answering my friend,that was really helpful,have a great new year!

[@NovakWs]

where do you get beyond from on your map? i feel like those atlas nodes dont do anyhing if its not beyond rolled?

[@Goratha]

Beyond sextant

[@Bryczkowski]

it will be my first time playing MF, why do you have caustic arrow and storm rain? which I should use when?

[@rori354]

would also like to know more about how to properly do wildwood. I almost never get a good amount of wisps

[@finisheseverythi]

IM confused how to get delirium here, are we buying it on the atlas device? or running a sextant? or something else? does it matter? thanks

[@wavyshot7934]

it's in the pob notes. you either run deli sextant or deli orbs

[@finisheseverythi]

thanks found them @@wavyshot7934

[@mapredible9165]

I love this strat and am very thankful for all youre videos on updates. Still iam here being frustrates some times because i just cant kill some rares on 6k juice which obviously is the key in the strat. When iam dropping delirium drops become kinda meh. I even put item rarity supp out for awakened deadly ailmets but iam still struggeling with some rare packs.

[@Goratha]

Awakened unbound would be much better than item rarity, as for your damage being low... I'm not sure without looking at a POB. It's likely hit chance, poison chance, or just a bad bow though. Rage tincture is huge as well for berserk.

[@EspyMelly]

If you're being incapable of killing rares because they're overhealing your DPS, slap a 0-link Frost Bomb somewhere in your sockets, it cuts enemy healing by 75%, works on both regen and leech rares, once I started using it I've never again had an issue with an unkillable rare

[@mapredible9165]

@@EspyMelly oh this i need to try, ty!

[@k_waz5126]

​​@@mapredible9165 If you use any mark nodes on your passive tree, you can use a point for the mastery that causes marked enemies to not be able to regen life. I've found that it's one of the best passive points you can possibly use in this meta of wisp juicing.

[@michaelkronenberg3712]

Can you recommend some leveling guide or build for your version?

[@Fitsuuu]

I see a lot of people saying the +2 proj isn't that crazy as the majority of the juice comes from +proj from purple juice. How important is this mod? I'd say I hit +2 proj maps I can run every 20 chaos, then if I want them decently juiced I have to double slam so that's 40c/map + time investment. On the flip side, I could use run an 8 mod sextant every 3rd cycle. Get 20 8 mod maps (which have 30% more pack size than the 6 mods) and just chain those. I'm wondering if it's worth doing that, or if the base +2 proj is really that important.

[@PalleAChill]

I love this strat. I still havent had a divine drop, but I will keep at it :)

[@UzinPOE]

thanks for this strat, hopefully i can magic find a new pc

[@drewk5972]

Whats the reason for ritual? We save it for last and hope other mechanics go into it but the loot from specifically the ritual vendor is garbage (specially in the t7 version) is there another option or is this just for all the extra mobs that it spawns and not for the vendor

[@pushirito8630]

more monsters

[@Filwing]

Just finished 100th cemeteries, each time with abyss sextant, glided abyss, uniq and div scarabs. Pack size 28~ (sometimes 40+ sometimes ~22). +57% quantity, +226% rarity (+head enchant +tincture = ~300) Dropped: - 68 raw divines (best drop 6 in bulk) - 517 Heavy Belt Uniq, - 472 Leather Belt uniq, - No t0 belts - 3 Brothers Gift - tons of other currency and stuff. Profitable? For sure - best league so far, but I have no idea how to make as huge profits as you :D

[@SurroundedByDummies]

Its all about the wisps. You need 2-4 events each map to make it feel worth it.. if you get a map with 10k wisps and 3 collors its very very insane

[@maxdg6504]

Hi there Goratha! Thanks for sharing your build with us. Why not using Growing Hordes in the atlas tree? Pack size seems good for MF builds, I am curious why we would not want 40-60% more pack size. Thank you!

[@acheron55]

You need abyss scarab

[@ethanlarge3572]

One of the main points of the strat is to use various scarabs, and GH disables your scarabs.

[@maxdg6504]

I had no idea it disables scarabs, I thought it only provided a boost in pack size but we kept the scarabs we used in the map device. Thank you@@acheron55

[@maxdg6504]

I had no idea it disables scarabs, I thought it only provided a boost in pack size but we kept the scarabs we used in the map device. Thank you@@ethanlarge3572

[@NoobPlayEX]

Pimalist Ascendant is not good for this build?