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@MrCoachdunham2 жыл бұрын
I’m an Orthodox Christian and I really enjoy your channel. I love how you bring people from various Christian faith traditions and just have a conversation. I haven’t noticed any Eastern Catholics on your show yet. That would be interesting.
@Jayce_Alexander2 жыл бұрын
@@MrCoachdunham I would be really interested in that as well.
@stephenbrannen2 жыл бұрын
@@MrCoachdunham Or for that matter, Western Rite Orthodox.
@jcgurl37732 жыл бұрын
This guest is phenomenal!! I converted to Catholicism 12 years ago but recently began learning about the early Church and I feel so pulled to Orthodoxy. She is so crystal clear and passionate LOVE HER!
@Gregorydrobny2 жыл бұрын
She is also wonderfully giving with her time. I emailed her with questions while I was doing graduate studies (in a completely different school), after my priest suggested I contact her, and she emailed back almost immediately with a novel's worth of information for me to consider. After exchanging a few emails, it was easy to conclude that she is a very open and giving person.
@TheDroc19902 жыл бұрын
Come home!
@lindagomez91992 жыл бұрын
To have the mind of Christ will guide you into all truth . It is the power of God unto Salvation.
@Vlad68RLH2 жыл бұрын
Jcgurl you will not sorry coming into Orthodoxy. It’s awesome. I’ve been a convert of 47 years. She is spot on concerning our way of life. She gives an excellent explanation of why we are so different from Catholicism and Protestantism
@arthurhallett-west51452 жыл бұрын
Time then for you to study some Catholic theology! Then take a look at Ukraine.
@mirando100 Жыл бұрын
wow, i studied and graduated from the California Baptist University, studied 10 years reformed Calvinism, theology and Westminster confession, but....this lady put something in my soul....if i became orthodox it will be because of her
@Phoebe907 Жыл бұрын
Any updates?
@joeybwalsh11 ай бұрын
Update?
@MommaBirdd5 ай бұрын
@mirando100 Update?
@jjpnw79042 жыл бұрын
I'm being received as an Orthodox catecumen this Sunday. Thank you for this interview. Glory to God!
@marieegypt70912 жыл бұрын
God grant you many yeara☦☦☦
@jjpnw79042 жыл бұрын
@@marieegypt7091 thank you so much! 🙏
@frankherbert64762 жыл бұрын
Welcome home!
@evans39222 жыл бұрын
Praise the Lord... We pray for all Orthodox catechumen brothers and sisters so that Lord make them worthy of the receiving in His True Church... Blessings
@roflcopta0772 жыл бұрын
Same here!! God Bless.
@markomarko4942 жыл бұрын
Well said: Orthodox Christianity takes time to understand and acquire; it’s worth the time and effort.
@T_frog12 жыл бұрын
You're right. It took 1054 years after Jesus to exist.
@joshuagilmore75222 жыл бұрын
I believe it takes more than one lifetime. I grew up in the Catholic Church and converted to Orthodoxy about 9 yrs ago when I was 35. Understanding and realizing the Phronema, and how to train your nous takes a lifetime. What I realized while converting was that there there is no spirituality on western Christianity. I am so thankful I found the Orhrodox Church.
@joshuagilmore75222 жыл бұрын
@@T_frog1 An offended Catholic I see. Well as an ex Catholic who grew up in the Catholic Church, going to Catholic schools and learning the catechism, I can understand the struggle of hearing the things I’m this video. I was there 13 yrs ago when I was searching for truth. It took me 4 yrs to realize that everything this women said is true. The Orthodox Church is the original church. And you won’t be able to understand it until you experience it. The deep spirituality that exists in the Orthodox Church has all but been lost in the west. And she nailed it when saying how the Catholic Church became so legalistic/academic in the Middle Ages, relying on intellect and reason to know God. It’s not possible.
@markomarko4942 жыл бұрын
@@joshuagilmore7522 many Bible quotations stating that The Way is difficult; why should it be so difficult if all you need is a: statement of faith, or to become wealthy in the name of Jesus, or recognize a infallible Pope? It’s difficult because The Way itself is difficult to acquire, parts will always be a mystery, to deny your self your passions ect is counter intuitive. It takes development, it takes Holy Traditions that change you as a person at the deepest level. Indeed it is foolishness and makes no sense until you commit yourself to The Way and you start to encounter Grace/Love like never before. I’m glad your on your Way. God’s speed to you.
@markomarko4942 жыл бұрын
@Hyperborean Futurism Amen!
@xpictos7772 жыл бұрын
That point about Christ not writing anything down, his dialogue in the gospels being about 15mins worth (read aloud) compared to 3 years showed me just how completely impoverished sola scriptura is. Christ did not leave us a book like Mohammed, He left us a Church.
@Reid-yy5nw2 жыл бұрын
but CHRIST NEVER once implied the organized, institutional, imperial cult ROMAN CATHOLICISM became. Besides, the ORTHODOX at Antioch and Jerusalem is the original church, and woefully in need of PROTESTANT reformation too! OK?
@xpictos7772 жыл бұрын
Actually I don't agree with you. If you read the Old Testament you will see that God was very specific about His instructions when it came to worship and the temple, very organised and very institutional. It is not just Antioch and Jerusalem, the New Testament literally has books named after Thessalonica and Corinth, which means Greece too. No offence, but the reformation into what? 30,0000 different denominations that don't agree on anything? No thanks, you can keep your reformation.
@wessbess2 жыл бұрын
The Word of God judges men not the reverse. The church is made up of sinful men!!!
@wessbess2 жыл бұрын
Orthodoxy is a cult of Mary.
@xpictos7772 жыл бұрын
Basic error. The Word IS Christ, not pieces of paper with ink on them, that is scripture. This is basic Christianity 101.
@kierahall86652 жыл бұрын
Her book “Thinking Orthodox” opened my eyes to so much. Mainly how far I have to go in my journey of faith but still… I love her stance and her conviction and she was a big reason for mine and my wife’s entering into Orthodoxy.
@supercoopers8688 Жыл бұрын
If Orthodox isnt about thinking then what’s the point of “thinking orthodox”🤔 “orthodox” in its meaning means “right thinking” Everyone has a theological conviction is based on a presupposition which is a way of thinking that brings about a right practice. It would be wise to say Eastern Orthodox have a different theological presupposition than the Protestant unless it would be presented as contradictive statements. Other than that, she brought a powerful expression on the word study on phromena!
@voulapetrakos7508 Жыл бұрын
Welcome to orthodox Christianity god bless ☦️🙏💝
@gabrielacraciun3623 Жыл бұрын
δόξα ( doxa) =glory,praise
@mamafortuin11 ай бұрын
@@supercoopers8688 More precisely a Christian “phronema” is its belief coupled with action. It is the orientation of the heart which gives rise to a way of life which is in accordance with the will of God, to the extend one opens him/herself up to the grace of the Holy Spirit.
@Phoebe907 Жыл бұрын
I’m only halfway through this interview but it’s blowing my mind as a Protestant.
@CherryDreamer9610 ай бұрын
Out of curiosity, which part did you find mind blowing ?
@LPSCaitelyn3 ай бұрын
Orthodoxy is amazing and mind blowing
@marieegypt70912 жыл бұрын
I too thought that the Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church were very similar. But now after being Orthodox for more than 10 years I see that they couldn't be more different. I was a member of 2 different Catholic orders so I spent a lot of time in prayer and learning about the faith. But I finally found the fullness of the faith in the Orthodox ☦ Church.
@jp-eg6md2 жыл бұрын
You should see the WR orthodox church’s
@marieegypt70912 жыл бұрын
@@jp-eg6md What are you talking about?
@jp-eg6md2 жыл бұрын
@@marieegypt7091 just like Catholics have a Byzantine rite Orthodox has a Latin right
@marieegypt70912 жыл бұрын
@@jp-eg6md Oh I see. Yes I know of WR but I'm not interested.
@briandelaney97102 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t disagree more. The love for the Theotokos and the importance of the Eucharist are the same in both Churches
@EricAlHarb2 жыл бұрын
Excellent, this woman really knows Orthodoxy and presents so well.
@Kitiwake2 жыл бұрын
She should stick to that then and keep away from criticizing the one true church.
@jameshill84982 жыл бұрын
@@Kitiwake If you're dogma can't withstand a little disagreement then you must fear it's to weak to defend. The Orthodox make the same claim as the one true Church. As a Protestant studying the history and teachings of various traditions I would have to say the Catholic Church left the true Church by adding and changing dogma at the whim of one guy.
@mrmaggoo352 жыл бұрын
@@jameshill8498 Really. 1) Who proclaimed the prohibition on divorce? 2) What is the Orthodox doctrine on divorce? Just one argument countering your assertion.
@josephsaab72082 жыл бұрын
@@mrmaggoo35 I don't know but exactly what you mean but Jesus specifically stated that divorce would be disallowed except for cases of sexual immorality which is pretty much the stance of the Orthodox church.
@joshua_wherley8 ай бұрын
@@josephsaab7208 Sexual immorality is one instance, abuse of any kind is another. I don't understand why some Catholics seem to have this idea that the Orthodox are willy-nilly about divorce. Divorce, generally speaking, is a grave tragedy in the Church's eyes. But no one is perfect, and sometimes lines are crossed, sometimes two people should not be together. It's a complicated question.
@triscat2 жыл бұрын
Austin. Whatever your future may hold, you are an incredible mediator of discussion. Thank you so much for your channel. This was a riveting interview and one that I will revisit.
@triscat2 жыл бұрын
@Messerah Allrighty then.
@royhughes28542 жыл бұрын
I had to pause the video at 31:52 to write this.... I have never in all my years gave much, if any at all, thought to our Orthodox brothers & sisters. I thought, as she clearly pointed out, that Orthodoxy was just another form of Roman Catholicism without a Pope. I learned a new term that I never knew before....PHRONEMA..... At this moment in the video, I am now very eager to go out and research & learn much more about Orthodoxy (after I finish watching the rest of this video of course!) and then truly reflect in prayer, much much prayer, what GOD wants me to do next with the rest of my life. Amazing. OK, back to the video.....
@evans39222 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/ppq5laWqnNRqjtk Fr. Josiah Trenham videos Rock and Sand are very informative.. God bless you brother... Search and pray and God will guide you safely to His true Orthodox Church.. Blessings
@spartanastas55602 жыл бұрын
Glory to God... Lord have mercy on you, protect and Guide you on your Journey to the Truth.
@thankyou86222 жыл бұрын
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@sheridannicolas Жыл бұрын
I would love to hear an update about your journey!
@angelapandazis6512 Жыл бұрын
God wants you to be Orthodox
@Brigid.em.Galloway862 жыл бұрын
I’m currently reading her book, and now I will be able to read it “in her voice”. So that’s super cool. It’s been mind blowing and amazing! The more I learn, the hungrier I get for more.
@greenhaven-podcast2 жыл бұрын
Deacon Michael Hyatt is doing a great podcast series through the book right now. You could easily catch up. It's called "At the Intersection of East and West". Also, as she said, I would recommend her podcast for sure!
@bebetoyildrim82812 жыл бұрын
sounds perfect
@Brigid.em.Galloway862 жыл бұрын
@@greenhaven-podcast I’m currently listening to that podcast actually! I started from the oldest episode and working my way through them. I’m on “Mary as Theotokos” today. 😊
@BookofAkathists2 жыл бұрын
The Audio version is quite literally in her voice, if you like audio books too.
@evans39222 жыл бұрын
@Arthur Hallett-West hatred plus bitterness overflowing... Holy Orthodoxy trumpling down the Latin heresy
@ilovechrist9142 жыл бұрын
I've watched this like 3 times you both are amazing. Orthodoxy what christ taught what the apostles preached and what the fathers kept
@evans39222 жыл бұрын
Well said... Amen 🙏
@innocente77952 жыл бұрын
Amen☦️
@APAL8802 жыл бұрын
@Arthur Hallett-West The Roman emperors called the Ecumenical Councils where true theological doctrines were confirmed and false teachings were rebutted and condemned as such. All this by the Holy Spirit working in the Church through the saints.
@eve33632 жыл бұрын
No he didn't. Please stop lying.
@TheNikolinho Жыл бұрын
hi. do we have any evidence that the 3rd-4th-5th and so on church fathers taught what the apostles preached and that nothing was added? seems very hard to believe because when we read the fathers, they all had their own opinions.
@Orthodoxyandlife2 жыл бұрын
I love Dr. Constantinou! Her podcasts are extremely informative. Her book "Thinking Orthodox" is very good as well. I think everyone should read it, Orthodox or not.
@eeaotly Жыл бұрын
As an Orthodox who had the luck to be born in an Orthodox environment (and was not aware of the value of this luck) I feel humbled when reading the messages of the people who have become Orthodox Christians after being born and raised in other environments. Now, that I am in a "religious tolerant" aka secular country, I really get to SEE! I was just saying the other day to a friend of mine who is back in my home country: "You don't know just how lucky you are that you can at any time enter in any Orthodox Christian church that is in your way and you can light a candle and say a prayer!" And she - who has never lived in a foreign country - said to me: "Here indeed you are right! It's a luck and a blessing that I can enter, recollect and pray at any time in any church!" In my case, the only solution is listening to online live liturgy.
@JG4AU14 күн бұрын
As a Protestant interested in the Orthodox Church, where can I find these online liturgies? I wanted to know more about the early church fathers as a reformed leaning Protestant and now I’m thinking maybe the early church fathers might have known more 😂
@Steve-wg3cr2 жыл бұрын
I think I learned more about Orthodoxy from Dr. Constantinou in this interview than any other video I've watched. As a Protestant, I found that I agreed with much that she said. Nice job Austin in asking questions and digging further into some of the things she said the needed a further explanation.
@spartanastas55602 жыл бұрын
Make sure you listen to Searching the scriptures and Searching the Scriptures live... The first is about the Old Testament, and the second is about the New Testament. I've learned so much from these podcasts.
@teammine2 жыл бұрын
Thinking Orthodox is the first book I read on the Orthodox faith. It will forever be on my list of books that had a life-changing impact. Love Dr. Jeannie. There are times when I think she is "soapboxing" and then I remember her C.V...it doesn't come from lack of study. She actually knows what she is talking about. You did a lovely job of engaging and displaying her expertise. Great job!
@GospelSimplicity2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@davidreads29852 жыл бұрын
You should try to get Fr. Spyridon Bailey on the show!
@wonderingpilgrim2 жыл бұрын
YES!!!!A thousand times over. He's my favorite orthodox priest........and I'm protestant! XD
@jlmoreno95492 жыл бұрын
Yes yes!!! Great suggestion!
@xmc71892 жыл бұрын
And Father Anthony Mourad too
@petervandolah53222 жыл бұрын
Father Spyridon ... Yes ☦️
@antonioj.castaneda73772 жыл бұрын
I'm reading his book Orthodoxy and the Kigndom of Satan. I highly recommend it.
@e.a.c.21752 жыл бұрын
Glory to God! I was just listening to the podcast The Intersection of East and West which is currently doing a study on Jeannie's book: Thinking Orthodox. Immediately, I thought of you, dear Austin, as an inquirer into the faith. May it be blessed ☦️ you have my prayers
@BrandonTalleyRealtor2 жыл бұрын
A few years ago I listened to Dr. J’s series about how we got our canon of scripture, and it was incredible. Was excited to listen to this podcast and it was excellent. I see some comments that are a bit taken back by her passion, but I love it! I could sit and listen and learn from her for days. Very educational material here for anyone interested in learning more about the Orthodox Church.
@harrykezelian80092 жыл бұрын
Those commenters aren't used to interacting with Greek women! 😆
@franciscovasquez94172 жыл бұрын
Wow this woman truly triggered so many people in this comment sections. Just like video games if you encounter opposition, it means your going the right way. God bless you Dr. Constantinou! ☦️
@miropecovic38762 жыл бұрын
Austin, as an Orthodox Christian I have nothing but respect for you. Your humility in your interviews is wonderful, and I see many Christ-like qualities in you. Thank you for putting all this work in for your viewers. God bless you.
@traceyedson96522 жыл бұрын
He’s the best. Such an example to us all.
@beverleypettit35772 жыл бұрын
Agree. I love Austin 🥰😇 Thank you as always Austin 🕊 And of course... Glory be to God.
@GospelSimplicity2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! It's my pleasure getting to do this
@rachelles.45972 жыл бұрын
Being an Orthodox Christian I absolutely love these videos; they are simple and just have a wealth of knowledge for everyone; including people within the faith that may not be privy or may have missed certain aspects of the sect. TYSM for sharing.
@rosiegirl24852 жыл бұрын
I believe this Dr. believes what she is saying with her whole heart and soul. Though I do think she waves off Catholics and Protestants way too easily. I would love to see her perform with a little push back...maybe Trent Horn, or Jimmy Akin! I want to hear her explanation of why there is so much splintering within Orthodoxy. Thank you Austin for all the hard work, and for being able to contain your own emotion during these interviews! I know as a devout Catholic, that my feathers have ruffled a few times! God bless! 💠
@eglistellez91852 жыл бұрын
I think she is to quick to dismiss the historical context on which two churches developed. That influenced a lot the theological work. One was the supremacy in Europe the other under the hammer of the Islam
@CatieD2 жыл бұрын
@@eglistellez9185 I think she wasn't trying to dwell on the historical context...her mission is to explain orthodoxy especially to those who are already orthodox and dont understand the orthodox tradition.
@nuzzi66202 жыл бұрын
Well, you could always, I don't know, read her book? And I'm not sure what sort of splintering you're referring to aside from fringe schismatic groups present in both RC and EO traditions (such as might include the SSPX, SSPV, IMB, etc. in your tradition). But hey, no need to debate here when tons of literature has been written and every question already asked and answered a thousand times over in books, online and of course in the real world.
@farmergiles10652 жыл бұрын
The Orthodox faith is not splintered. It is just not monotone, as she tries to point out. The faith is consistent, but doctrine does not dictate all interpretation. The faith is taught first of all by the Holy Spirit, as Christ Himself said it would. So it is taught to full human beings, not just to their minds, but to their hearts, to their souls, even to their bodies. It is a faith that is lived, a faith of deeds, a cooperation of God and the faithful, producing the Christian life, made possible by the in-dwelling of God in His people, creating the Body of Christ. Christ is the vine, we are the branches. Living together, and living together with God, there can be no inconsistency. Inconsistencies are a product of sinfulness, but God came to overcome that sinfulness within us, and gave us the Holy Mysteries as the means to do so. Faith is oneness with God. Orthodoxy and its doctrines do not accomplish that. They point the way to Who does.
@breambo38352 жыл бұрын
Here is a recent debate between Trent Horn and Jay Dyer on should Christians accept Natural Theology which is the stance of the Roman Catholic Church. Trent tried his best but was refuted by Jay. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qn3IooSXpLiYr7M
@adelinacod56832 жыл бұрын
Greetings from a romanian Ortodox Christian 🙏 God bless you 🙏
@xaviorjimenez22272 жыл бұрын
She comes off a bit brash but I think it's just because she's explained this topic so many times. Very informative and important. The phronema of the Father's is the reason I'm Orthodox. Not because of any theological stance
@rdubyatjr2 жыл бұрын
I felt a bit the same way but have to remind myself that some people simply communicate this way when their passionate about something. I too think she has explained this many times and this contributes. But as it went on I felt her soften up a bit when taking about the Lord and his goodness.
@OrthodoxyAndEnvironment2 жыл бұрын
Direct and to the point is why I love her as an apologist. Orthodoxy is fact.
@axelbatalha2830 Жыл бұрын
I believe she was assertive, nothing else.
@Phoebe907 Жыл бұрын
It could be perceived that way, yes, but even as a Protestant, it didn’t bother me. I am finding this interview quite fascinating!
@MrStrawberryfields42 жыл бұрын
She's cool, you're cool, your channel is cool, and this interview was cool. You don't owe anyone in the comments a win dude. Thanks for just making great content.
@prodigaldaughter002 жыл бұрын
Best interview yet. I learned SO much thank you both so much!! I am a cradle Orthodox Christian with a degree in theology and I have been struggling so much as I raise my children with which Christian tradition makes the most sense to me. Your channel has brought me back to orthodoxy and I am so thankful, this interview more than any other has clarified things for me. THANK YOU
@CatieD2 жыл бұрын
So resonate with this. Blessings to you and your children ❤ Also the interview notwithstanding, I wonder about incorporating elements from catholicism with my own future kids? (Currently pregnant with the first) like teaching them about some wonderful catholic saints and traditions? What do you think?
@prodigaldaughter002 жыл бұрын
@@CatieD of course absolutely! Rooting them deeply and firmly into faith gives them a wonderful foundation for whatever life throws at them. For our family orthodoxy is the way for sure, but if Catholicism is what resonates most deeply with you, then of course pass that on. I recommend reading "Out of the Ashes" and the "Benedict Option" as 2 great books on why we need to raise our children with faith at this moment in time.
@CatieD2 жыл бұрын
@@prodigaldaughter00 thank you so much for the thoughtful reply! I guess my concern is that i dont want to confuse them by teaching them the catholic tradition when we go to an orthodox church but on the other hand one of my greatest dreams is to see the churches reunite. thanks for the book recommendations... haven't heard of out of the ashes, i'll check it out! ❤
@prodigaldaughter002 жыл бұрын
@@CatieD I see your point. I think if presented as a custom you grew up doing and framed that way. As well as explaining how and why it's different from the orthodox that could be nice for your child(ren). Blessings to you on your journey of motherhood, it's an absolutely wonderful experience
@jenniferdefusco77242 жыл бұрын
@@CatieD You could simply approach the stories of saints, etc. as history and explain as you read them that these stories carry weight for you because of your upbringing and thus pass down your family culture to the next generation.
@glorytogodforallthings84482 жыл бұрын
I am soooo looking forward to this! Thanks be to God for making this interview happen. Dr. Jeannie is a blessing and I have learned so much from her podcasts 🙏❤️
@GospelSimplicity2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful!
@ToniMilak2 жыл бұрын
You do a great job of finding the right people to interview :) looking forward to listening in!
@GospelSimplicity2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@kevinhughes34772 жыл бұрын
Love her so much. She is really awesome. And she is one of my favorite people that I have actually had the joy of interviewing as well!
@adambenedict61552 жыл бұрын
Austin, You did it! You brought Dr. Jeannie Constantinou on board! Well done!
@lafredtv30062 жыл бұрын
Hi Austin! Thank you for your channel. I do appreciated it. The Lord is leading me to Orthodox faith.. God bless your ministry. From Philippines.
@kansashoneybadger789929 күн бұрын
Have to give Austin credit for reaching out to someone who is truly knowledgeable about Orthodoxy and engaging in a real conversation respectfully and thoughtfully.
@Orthoindian2 жыл бұрын
Presvytera is a treasure.
@grahamwilliams88712 жыл бұрын
I'd thoroughly recommend her audio book. Usual great interview by Austin.
@justmyvoice72 жыл бұрын
Really love what I’ve read from her book so far! Coming from a Protestant background, it’s been enlightening to gain a deeper understanding of the Orthodox mindset, even having been Orthodox for six years now.😬
@Quantum10082 жыл бұрын
Do you think she is unfair to the Western Tradition? She is right to emphasize the way of life and mystery passed down from the early church but she misrepresents the Catholic Church. Their tradition includes deep spirituality of mysticism and contemplation. She is right to reject any attempt to establish a completely rational basis for theology but the Catholic Church officially rejects this as well. She seems to paint with too broad a brush and speaks about things she knows nothing about. I find it hard to take her seriously when she misrepresents her opponents so badly. That’s called a straw man argument. She ought to “steel man” the Catholic point of view, interact with the best and most robust version of your opponent’s arguments. What she is doing seems lazy and untrustworthy. She says she appreciates Austin for encouraging honest and good faith discussions between Christians but she unfairly bashes Catholics without warrent. She lies about them and slanders them with blatant misinformation. So sad.
@MrStrawberryfields42 жыл бұрын
The Roman church "officially" rejects a lot of things that it has brought about for centuries. The issue isn't what you say you believe but how your beliefs influence the fruits of your faith. And we believe history speaks for itself in this regard.
@Quantum10082 жыл бұрын
@@MrStrawberryfields4 I understand that and accept that. But what are the fruits? Arrogant misrepresentations and libel? Endless schisms. Thinking the worst of others? Judging Orthodox as “liberal” or “ecumenist” for not adhering to a conspiracy theory of history?
@frankherbert64762 жыл бұрын
Yea when I was Chrismated I was told it would take 10 years to become truly ORthodox. I was really insulted and put off. Now, looking back on the past 6 years, I'll be lucky if its 15!😇
@Quantum10082 жыл бұрын
@@frankherbert6476 Dr Jeanne is like the man who prayed, “Thank God I’m not like those other people.” She is so arrogant and she lies. If all she was doing was saying “I’m proud to be Orthodox. I believe it is true and here is what makes it different.” That would be fine. But she lies about the Catholic Church and protestants. She is right to emphasize the way of life and mindset and the mystery passed on by the early Church. But she is just wrong when she says that that Catholic Church doesn’t have these things and that they have a theological system built completely on human reason. Those are just bald faced lies and so easy to debunk that I’m surprised that she asserts them so boldly. That is why she is untrustworthy. What she is doing is called strawmanning. She constructs the worst possible rendition of her opponents position, a flimsy argument that she can knock over with a tiny puff of wind. And it’s good for her that it is so easy to knock over because her own arguments are so vague and amorphous. Since she think that Orthodoxy is a kind of indescribable feeling she feels no need to actually say anything concrete. Consequently she says very little and is not convincing unless you are already a fan boy. Also, strawmanning is uncharitable and insulting. What Christians should do is steel man. That means constructing the best form of your opponent’s argument and interact with that. Dr Jeanne sounds rude, arrogant, and misinformed. At best. I believe that she is slanderously lying and that is why I don’t trust her.
@Mr.Peck882 жыл бұрын
I don’t think Catholics or Protestants think you can ever approach defining everything about God. Both have a great sense of mystery about God. I think she overstates this idea quite a bit.
@stevobear46472 жыл бұрын
WOW!! This was great. Thank you for bringing Dr. Jeannie on your channel.
@KyleNewsom-v8x9 ай бұрын
I have become Orthodox thanks to many different people but u were my main introduction to it thankyou
@petervandolah53222 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for your Baptism ... ☦️
@Yallquietendown2 жыл бұрын
I love Dr Jeannie ! One of the few good ones left at AFR!
@GospelSimplicity2 жыл бұрын
She's great!
@conorjones62122 жыл бұрын
The actual best part about your premieres is they always drop right as I get back from class so I can always watch them live
@GospelSimplicity2 жыл бұрын
Well that works out nicely!
@xmc71892 жыл бұрын
I agree with her. Confession is the best part of your faith.
@stephenbrannen2 жыл бұрын
I'm Orthodox, of the Western Rite (Antiochian Archdiocese of North America), so I frequent the the broad areas of historical and liturgical and theological reality that Dr. Constantinou glosses over throughout this video. Nearly everything that she indicated is uniquely Orthodox in thought or practice simply isn't, but is also rife throughout Roman Catholic history as well (e.g. mystery, apostolic PhRoNeMa, etc), and nearly every "negative" attribute she lays solely on the Roman Catholics (e.g. legalism, scholasticism, etc) is absolutely represented in Eastern Orthodox history as well. Her historical surveys are ludicrously simplistic (e.g. Orthodoxy never had a "reformation" because they didn't have the errors that Roman Catholicism did...completely omitting all of the massively different political factors which created totally different situations in Western Europe vs. Eastern Europe / near East). These polemics, though obviously based on some real differences here and there, are extremely overblown and reductionistic. It bums me out that this simplistic, dichotomizing summary will be latched onto and believed without further investigation by so many, perpetuating and needlessly increasing a divide between Eastern and Western traditions, and that there are already so many fawning comments on this video about it. *Edit: But thank you, Austin, for your kind demeanor and mature hosting as always.
@George-ur8ow2 жыл бұрын
I learned so much, and also remembered things i've forgotten. Wonderful interview, excellent questions. Will be rewatching this one!
@George-ur8ow2 жыл бұрын
Wow, looking forward to listening. Have read much of her thesis (which later became a book) on the Apocalypse, it's a very comprehensive work.
@GospelSimplicity2 жыл бұрын
Nice! She's brilliant
@colmwhateveryoulike32402 жыл бұрын
Interesting, can I find that online?
@stellajacovides96762 жыл бұрын
Dr . Jeanne is a great blessing . Her immense knowledge , experience and open hearted spirit will allow her to be impactful to all . We need spiritual unity and I think God rip use Dr .Jeanne to help unite our splintered Christian faithful . Imagine how much spiritual unity will illumine the world . She’s a great spokesperson for truth . May those that have ears let them hear . Axia! Most worthy !
@chrisj1231652 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this conversation, however as a Lutheran I believe she painted the protestant camp with a very wide brush. Lutherans are extremely comfortable with mystery and paradoxes that are presented in the bible. We have our systematic theology but also can see what happens during the Eucharist as a wonderful mystery.
@MrCoachdunham2 жыл бұрын
I haven’t watched the video yet but she explains in her book that she does, as you said, “paint the Protestant camp with a very wide brush,” and she makes an apology in the beginning of the book. When speaking about Protestant faith traditions, it can be difficult. We are Orthodox and send our daughter to Christian Classical school and Lutherans such as yourself are not reformed enough for some people at the school lol.
@chrisj1231652 жыл бұрын
@@MrCoachdunham thank you for that clarification!
@zealousideal2 жыл бұрын
That’s because there are tens of thousands of Protestant denominations …how can she cover them all? But yes, she’s absolutely right (as someone who was ex protestant) she covers the basics of what most of them think and believe. Of course, there are some Protestants or evangelicals that are more about mystery and less rational. (Ie. Pentecostals, charismatics) But not in the same way as Orthodox are, by a long shot. Also, EO know how to balance it correctly, because we only do what the early church did. Lutheranism, although they hold some similarities, is no where near what Orthodoxy is. We have many ex Lutheran priests who are Orthodox priests now.
@chazcontramundum22242 жыл бұрын
Pentecostals/Charismatics ALSO rely on mystery and "mystical" experiences... in some ways more than the pietistic Lutherans (what I understand to be the most mystery-friendly variety of Lutherans). That doesn't mean that there is much in common (or even "this" in common), even in terms of definitions. Also, there are many streams of rationalistic Lutherans (eg LCWS), humanistic and/or counter-rationalistic Lutherans (ELCA), etc. Even within the denomination that I perceive to be the best (LCMS and some of its international concordant partners), there is quite a variety from parish to parish.
@chazcontramundum22242 жыл бұрын
I forgot to identify myself... almost 30 years Orthodox, before which I was an Evangelical and Reformed pastor, missionary, and seminary professor.
@isaiahkerstetter31422 жыл бұрын
I need better compliments that "Excellent!", "You the man!" or "You're killing it Austin!". I'm about out of new expressions of approval and delight.
@GospelSimplicity2 жыл бұрын
Haha, I appreciate the support Isaiah
@ryanmcmilin52672 жыл бұрын
I'll share a thought from my personal experience within Baptist/Non-denominational circles within America. I agree with Dr. Constantinou that rational thought and the desire to prove beliefs from the text/history does exist in part, particularly in the pastorate and places of high learning. However it certainly seems that the average churchgoer is not leaning on the rational arguments nor are they even aware of many denominational distinctives. They come for the experience, they come looking for community worship, and they come looking for guidance in their day-to-day. My assumption is that the typical Orthodox and Catholic believers are doing the same. I can see where she is coming from in critiquing the direction that leaders within Protestant and Catholic churches have gone, but it seems to me most of Christendom is made up of people not asking "Why should I believe", but rather "What should I do now that I believe". Folks listening to this channel (self-included) who are interested in the distinctions and the history and the "Why" are in the minority. I will say that my perspective is terribly limited and my education is sadly relegated to the interwebs and a few books, but the mindset of accepting the teaching of our local church with the goal of loving our neighbors and thereby demonstrating our love and appreciation to God is, in part, what binds the universal church, and isn't that the "Phronema" described?
@CatieD2 жыл бұрын
This is so beautiful. 100% agree. I'm starting to feel like a broken record saying this but the thing with this topic is it is extremely niche. This is intended for the ears of orthodox people, particularly in the US where we are so small, who dont understand the uniqueness of our own tradition. (And it is extremely helpful for that, thank God for Dr. Constantinou!) In time, we'll be able to explain it (and more importantly live it) in ways that dont offend the ears of our western christian brothers and sisters. Blessings🙂
@spartanastas55602 жыл бұрын
From what I heard... Phronema is also a word that my mother used to yell at me when i was young. "Katse Phronema!" she would yell, and in that context, it means "SIT STILL and Correctly" (with foreshadowing of pain as she pointed at her wooden spoon) That is what it means to be an Orthodox Christian... without the wooden spoon of course. We sit still, and correctly according to Christ's and the Church Father's teachings. We don't move quickly because that's how mistakes happen. Phronema also requires and understanding of context and knowledge of how life was in the days of Christ. The Orthodox Church uses the same liturgy as we did in the 4th century, and sometimes earlier, as they use different ones throughout the year. Understanding people from the founding of America is sometimes difficult and that was only 245 years ago. They had a different language, different thought process and different way of life. Yes, Christ is the center of all our Churches and Denominations... but according to the New Testament and the Holy Fathers... if interpreted incorrectly, you may end up at the wrong location. And if the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit all act as one... how can we explain the 40,000 denominations that were created because people claim that the Holy Spirit led them to start a new Church? Does it look like the Original Church? The Original Church was Liturgical. We all have a job to do, and that is to find the true Church. Most believe that they've found it, but some don't realize that there are 40,000 other roads. Orthodoxy does not believe that everyone gets saved and we don't believe only Orthodox will be saved either. Christ alone will judge us all, and I would rather live a strict life that follows the ancient Church because that is where the experts were. Read Matthew 25:31-46. I'm not a theologian or clergy... just adding my opinion. God bless!
@Demetra7196 ай бұрын
In a sense, yes I think so. However, an example of this being more on the “not exactly” side would be for example, some Protestant churches who have sort of veered so far off in their own direction that they are teaching things that are very dangerous to Christians and have roots in the occult, but most don’t realize that because they never spent time in the occult. Whereas, Orthodoxy has taken such pains to preserve its traditions and “phronema” over time that it is very difficult for it to veer off course in such a drastic manner and mislead its people, and is really the closest to what was taught by Christ that exists…. For me I find more spiritual protection in that than the more watered down and often “veering” ship that can be Protestantism at times.
@pamarks2 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I've been thinking. The overall paradigm of the Church is equally important to its individual teachings and practices.
@xmc71892 жыл бұрын
It's refreshing to see a woman explaining the ancient faith which is usually considered a topic only for male preachers
@meghalo052 жыл бұрын
Austin your channel is great! You have to interview Father David Hanna of St. Mary’s Coptic Orthodox Church in Chicago! He’s wonderful and I think it will give your viewers a glimpse into the Oriental Orthodox Tradition specifically the Coptic Orthodox Church. Thank you!
@ilamuelirfan348110 ай бұрын
I am pentecostal trinitarian Pastor. Thank you.
@joer56272 жыл бұрын
Thank you Austin. A group I attend is reading “misreading scripture through western eyes”. We are still early into it but it seems to have some common features mentioned by your guest. It I need to develop a bit of a better appreciation of the early church Fathers.
@GospelSimplicity2 жыл бұрын
I've heard great things about that book
@KayElayempea2 жыл бұрын
I read that book a few years ago, it is very thought provoking, definitely worth reading! Enjoy!
@bogtrotter175 ай бұрын
Im an Anglican but I fully endorse Ancient Faith Radio. Just solid content.
@viktoriaregis6645 Жыл бұрын
Somehow I am attracted to the Orthodox Church because it make sense. And the mysticism the same time. I really like that Orthodoxy admit that not everything can be explained. I do feel a little bit lost in the liturgy coming from a protestant evangelical background, but I have come to appreciate the icons more than I used to. There is a wisdom as well in a way I haven't seen in the western church.
@ilamuelirfan348110 ай бұрын
God bless Dr. Jeannie
@Mr.Peck882 жыл бұрын
Although I disagree with some of the things Dr. Jeannie Constantinou says, I am really looking forward to reading her book with an open mind. There is so much to learn from the Orthodox Church.
@orthodoxos19712 жыл бұрын
Regarding Christianity, there is EVERYTHING to learn from the Orthodox Church
@Mr.Peck882 жыл бұрын
@@orthodoxos1971 There are too many great writings by saints in the Catholic Church that I have to respectfully disagree with you. However, I do know exactly why you would say that and I do respect your statement.
@orthodoxboomergrandma35612 жыл бұрын
reading her book now! this will be great to go with it! I am seven years Orthodox after being a Hindu, a Protestant and finally a Roman Catholic until finding the fullness of Orthodoxy. I have been gaining insight on where my phronema is not Orthodox and struggling through ascetic prayer etc to cleanse my nous, especially of western feministic rationalist notions! Thank you for this!
@vsevolodtokarev2 жыл бұрын
20:37 "it is fun to speak with people about the things they are *passionate* about" That's another point of disconnect between Orthodox and Western way of saying and thinking. Being driven by passion is considered a bad thing in Orthodoxy; passion (in its proper meaning) is but a chronic sin. Another, similar disconnect is being proud, as if it was something good (but at least some Roman Catholics understand that - perhaps the latter is a recent, secular phenomenon.) Thank you for inviting Dr. Constantinou, was very edifying.
@CatieD2 жыл бұрын
In the US I think it's fairly clear what people mean by "passionate" in this context...austin isnt talking about passions (страсти) in the sense you are using the word...it is practically a homonym...same thing with pride
@vsevolodtokarev2 жыл бұрын
@@CatieDYes, thank you, that's the whole point: if a wonderful thing is a homonym of a terrible thing, something is wrong with our way of using words. In Russian, "страсть" suffers from the same kind of confusion: colloquially, it's something appealing.
@panoramicprism2 жыл бұрын
I have a friend that is a monk that speaks English, Ukraine, and Russian. But English isn't his first language. He was recently ordained as hieromonk and I asked him if his mother was proud. He told me pride is a sin. I tried to explain that we use the word in this specific context differently and he said that it seemed to him to be proud of your son is to think that he is better than all other sons. It was a hard concept to translate to him. I gave up lol. But I also understand where he's coming from.
@CatieD2 жыл бұрын
@@panoramicprism I lived in Russia for almost a year and realized they just think about things differently from americans... like in that situation a russian person could have said "I bet your mother is so happy/thankful" but humility is deeply ingrained so they really dont even have the same concept we do and vice versa...so interesting!
@panoramicprism2 жыл бұрын
@@CatieD it really is. I think as a teen, I encountered this concepts in different languages phenomenon through watching anime. Watching English dubbed w/subtitles vs English voiced really opened my mind to how things vary conceptually through languages and culture. I love it! Because it means there is still sooo much we can learn and communicate to one another and it's one of the reasons I'm very excited about the internet! Even this exchange is a blessing! Thank you!
@johnallen13112 жыл бұрын
"In the Roman Catholic Church the First Vatican Council re-affirmed the existence of mysteries as a doctrine of Catholic faith as follows: "If any one say that in Divine Revelation there are contained no mysteries properly so called (vera et proprie dicta mysteria), but that through reason rightly developed (per rationem rite excultam) all the dogmas of faith can be understood and demonstrated from natural principles: let him be anathema" (Sess. III, De fide et ratione, can. i)."
@GospelSimplicity2 жыл бұрын
This is a great point
@stevensonrf2 жыл бұрын
Austin, I truly love Orthodoxy, but I wish this lady would have stuck to just talking about Orthodoxy without bashing the Catholic church. I found it to be very distracting and counterproductive to the other things that she was trying to say. 🙁
@masterchief81792 жыл бұрын
Well, I could definitely agree with what you say. I think Austin wanted to be fair and show us not only Eastern Orthodoxs guests that converted to it (specially from Protestantism) but also a cradle Orthodox with an ethnic background. I guess we all can reason about it and what that says.
@JackTimothy2 жыл бұрын
Loved her critiques on the first protestants. Dr. Jeannie is powerful.
@severianmonk73942 жыл бұрын
This is like a beautiful elaboration of Evagrius Ponticus explaining what prayer is as the exclusion of thoughts, concepts.
@backinmyrightmind2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, thank you, thank you…….beautiful!
@johnsayre2038 Жыл бұрын
Probably the best Christian interviewer I've seen on YT. You know how to let ppl talk, give them space, and then jump in with a question to pull more clarification out of them. All while presumably disagreeing with much of what they say (I believe you are Protestant?). Impressive self-control and professionalism.
@hmkzosimaskrampis31852 жыл бұрын
Wonderful interview, thank you. If you could land an interview with elder Zacharias of Essex, that would be awesome.
@tarahskinner9239 ай бұрын
"HOLY" Simplicity! I Love that .... Thank you for sharing!
@courtneykees215 ай бұрын
I've just discovered this channel, and this video is absolutely one of my favorite of those I've seen so far. A recent Wesleyan converted Orthodox, just for context.
@e.a.c.21752 жыл бұрын
@55 minutes or so you, Austin, are hitting on something critical...in no way is becoming Orthodox about reading Orthodox theology... it's about humbling yourself and giving yourself, body and soul, to Her (Her being the Bride of Christ).
@SLVBULL2 жыл бұрын
@Arthur Hallett-West continuation of Judaism nothing cult to it
@NVRSTP3 ай бұрын
Hoping I am able to become a catechumen at the Greek Orthodox Church in September.
@Balkan33312 жыл бұрын
I absolutely loved this love this video
@timrichardson40182 жыл бұрын
I will say, the Orthodox Divine Liturgy is beautiful!
@Mr1972giorgos2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you interview Jonathan Jackson..
@leannewheeler535110 ай бұрын
I appreciate her passion and insistence on the matter.
@jenniferweinzettel67022 жыл бұрын
As a recent Orthodox convert (from Protestantism) I found her latest book to be AMAZING. I also found it (and many of her podcasts) to be a bit harsh toward non-Orthodox and wouldn't just toss it out to any of my Protestant friends. I'm curious to hear her speak here and if it will be a similar vibe. She's fantastic - her Search the Scruptures podcast changed my life!
@marieegypt70912 жыл бұрын
I completely understand what you mean. I am a convert from Catholicism and over the years have visited Greek monasteries and made Greek friends. Initially I was put off by their attitude. They have very strong personalities but they are the most generous and loving people.
@Quantum10082 жыл бұрын
Yes. She is right to emphasize the way of life and the mystery passed on from the early church but she just doesn’t understand the Catholic Church. Their tradition includes this as well. She says it’s wrong to construct a theology based entirely on reason. The Catholic Church agrees this would be heretical. There are deep traditions of mystical prayer and contemplation. She misrepresents the Catholic Church.
@IC_XC_NIKA2 жыл бұрын
I think she's just a straightforward person. I too am an Orthodox convert from protestantism and her raw honesty is so helpful for me!
@Quantum10082 жыл бұрын
@@IC_XC_NIKA except for when she uncharitably lies and misrepresents. She isn’t honest when she spreads misinformation.
@marieegypt70912 жыл бұрын
@@IC_XC_NIKA I appreciate her honesty too. Her Biblical courses are excellent.
@baoduong22032 жыл бұрын
Thank you for bringing in this speaker! I’m currently reading her book as a Catholic seminarian, who has explored Orthodoxy for five years. The concept of Phronema is interesting, and I can understand how we may have a different approach and understanding with theology. A criticism that I have with Dr. Constantinou, is that it can appear to sound “gnostic” to others. Like I have this secret knowledge that nobody else has. The gnostics may have made the same argument that she did. But to somewhat understand the phronema of the Orthodox, is something good to know to have better dialogues with the orthodox.
@princekermit08 ай бұрын
how do children learn? values are more caught than taught. we have to have it modeled. we believe deeds over words, so it is critical that our words have no leaven.
@daysihall85692 жыл бұрын
Maybe the title should be “what it means to be TRULY Christian”. Lol sorry! New Orthodox convert here 😅. Great interview. All reasons why we converted but truly what did it for us was the mystery of the church. So thankful and humbled that God led us there unexpectedly. I pray that it brings you home as well Austin.
@daysihall85692 жыл бұрын
You should try obtaining a little orthodox prayers book and read through them. It made such an amazing difference for us even before going to our first liturgy.
@leoandolino46682 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this speaker. She makes so much sense. For knowledgeable Protestants Biblical context has always been the crux for understanding the Scriptures. She brings up the most important element to understanding the Bible - the mindset. The right or original mindset is the starting point.
@matthewthomas32272 жыл бұрын
Another great interview!
@GospelSimplicity2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@meghanyoung Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the conversation. I think all theologians, no matter the denomination, should meet the criteria Constantinou set out for Orthodox theologians.
@thedjhoneybear43682 жыл бұрын
I'm a Protestant convert to Orthodoxy and greatly enjoy Dr. Constantinou's book and have personally met her. She signed my copy of the book and is an insanely brilliant person. That being said, in this interview at least, I think she set up some straw-men arguments against some Catholic and Protestant thinking. She was clearly trying to be respectful while decisive, which I respect, but I was disappointed in her handling of our brother's and sister's traditions. I don't think she was wrong in anything she said conceptually, but throwing everything wrong within theological discourse upon the West (when Western Orthodoxy itself is a beautiful shared tradition) and acting like the East is totally free from problems within theological discourse because our Phronema is unbroken I think is not a fair argument.
@panokostouros76092 жыл бұрын
Ok, but your emotional appeal to your "brothers" and "sisters" isn't an argument either
@baoduong22032 жыл бұрын
@@panokostouros7609 I don’t think DJHoneyBear was trying to make an argument, but was just offering a criticism.
@jacob52832 жыл бұрын
great interview, thanks for hosting it
@wartimemodels2 жыл бұрын
Great interview Austin!
@azurephoenix95462 жыл бұрын
Excessively profound and simultaneously simple. Thank you very much for this!
@NOK2014_Corfu_Activities2 жыл бұрын
27:54 "A turn to rationalism" -> Actually this is the point of the difference . Orthodoxy is mostly an experience of the Mysteries as the Apostles did along with teachings. Rationalism was something that came in later, propably with Thomas Acinatis, and you still do it. Orthodoxy is about living in , gaining experience, a theological science with life in the Mysteries of God, especially the Monks while west became a cathedral were you should be tought theology in the school. Conseguence of that was also the abortion of Monasticism, which the spearchead of experience.
@James-hk6gc7 ай бұрын
My trust is really good orthodox is my true way to God, God bless you 🙏
@thekingofsomewhere2 жыл бұрын
This is gonna be a good one
@bassguitar19192 жыл бұрын
I already had Dr. Constantinou's book on my reading list and definitely will be getting to it soon now. So many great points about how we approach and understand theology and Scripture to be aware of. If honestly seeking truth we need to be aware of these thought tendencies that we all have. Great stuff! God bless.
@christopherscheck18472 жыл бұрын
It's important to note that Phronema is an action. It IS Liturgy. The Liturgy of life. One does not sit at a row of desks in a classroom and crack open a theology book to acquire it as is pointed out in this discussion. Nor is it acquired by simply studying a set of beliefs. One lives it. It is knowledge of the heart gradually acquired through experiences such as standing on sore feet for multiple hours during Divine Liturgy, attending the All Night Vigil the night before. Clearing out the fridge and going "vegan" for the Great Fast. Prostrations during Lent. Lighting candles and praying as a family every day at your home icon corner, the Jesus Prayer, etc. In other words, through years of total immersion of every aspect of one's life into the Christian faith. This experience is then a foundation for all understanding to be built upon, and provides the mindset or "lens" to, not only understand WHAT we believe about God, but more importantly, and God willing, to our ultimate union with God through Theosis. In this way, Phronema can be seen as an important aspect of Salvation.
@lupinthe4th4002 жыл бұрын
Such a lovely guest to have on your show. God bless.
@DavidSinghiser2 жыл бұрын
Oh, I was hoping you would interview her! She's great!
@GospelSimplicity2 жыл бұрын
She is indeed!
@izaakj12 жыл бұрын
The Lord bless you a sister. 🙏🏽❤️☦️
@evans39222 жыл бұрын
God Bless our presvytera...Amen
@davidpope21892 жыл бұрын
I love what she offers on the Eastern Christian life and thought, but I reject much (though not all) of her critique of Catholic and Protestant theology. All too often, she presents a terribly limited view of both. It gives me the impression that she hasn't done an honest study of either one.
@zealousideal2 жыл бұрын
How so?? I’m ex Roman Catholic and ex Evangelical. She hit the nail on the head!!
@zealousideal2 жыл бұрын
@Arthur Hallett-West 1: Catholicism IS very rational 2. She does know the diversity within Catholicism and talked about that exactly. Which is what I didn’t like about it. Ortho only has ONE spirituality not many different rites. 3. Eastern Catholics ARENT orthodox at all! Just Bcz they are Catholics in Ortho clothes doesn’t mean anything. I understand your points, but You are still not understanding the full picture at all of what she’s getting at and the MAJOR differences between the two.
@zealousideal2 жыл бұрын
@Arthur Hallett-West no, Bcz I would have to disagree with you. The very fact of them “accepting” the Pope they threw out orthodoxy. The early church DID NOT DEFINITIVELY believe that. Sorry you are incorrect. Keep studying ..one day you will also learn the truth as did I.
@zealousideal2 жыл бұрын
@Arthur Hallett-West now I agree with you on that! I don’t see Orthodox as “the only real Christians” …or Catholics…Or anyone for that matter. I believe we are still ALL part of his body. Because as Paul says himself ….”For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. “. I Cor 13:12 God didn’t call everyone to be Theologians but to just serve and love him to the best they know. But I do feel EO is closest to that original method that’s all.
@SLVBULL2 жыл бұрын
@@zealousideal there is only one church.
@Subeffulgent2 жыл бұрын
I'm a Catholic, and she sounds like she's only emphasizing the obvious truth, while neglecting to be willing to understand what she is saying is true for Roman Catholics also. It's almost like she's blind to it? May God bless both of you 👉✝✝✝
@spartanastas55602 жыл бұрын
The interview was an hour and there are 1,988 years of Orthodox Church History (from Pentecost). If you count Catholic Denomination, add another 967 years of history (since the schism of 1054). She can't cover it all.